Mosin-Nagant to 500yds: Practical Accuracy (Mosin-Nagant M91/30)
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This was one of the most fun we've had with this project.
The Mosin-Nagant M91 type "3-line rifle" was Russia and the Soviet Union's military standard service weapon from 1891. The adaptation of this rifle is one of the reasons why the 7.62x54R cartridge is the world's longest-service cartridge. We cannot overstate the historical importance of this rifle.
HUGE THANKS to Lonnie for loaning us the rifle and Chris from Small Arms Solutions for sending over the vintage ammo!
Parameters: 2x shots per target from 150y to 500y, segmented per 50 yds. Shot with Russian surplus 147grain light ball 7.62x54r.
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Distance Conversion:
150y - 137m
200y - 182m
250y - 229m
300y - 274m
350y - 320m
400y - 366m
450y - 411m
500y - 457m
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Music by Tyops (THANKS!!!)
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I literally watched 2 Russian guys, take turns hitting the Vertical Stabilizer on their Fighter Jet, with a SLEDGE HAMMER, because it wasn't flying straight......No joke, I used to work at a private airport......they just "hit" stuff until it works.
OMG this comment. Pinned.
Underated comment XD
Wait... are you saying that it is not supposed to work?
How do you fix your PC then?
It’s their culture. Do not judge.
Just like wife, beat it till it works...
Joking, but seriously, they just beat stuff till it works and it works
I paid $75 for my 91/30 about 15 years ago at the local sporting goods store. For that price it came with 2 ammo belt pouches, bayonet, and cool double-chambered cleaning fluid/gun oil container. It has always worked flawlessly. I also bought 2 crates of milsurp Czech silver-tip ammo since it got great reviews for accuracy. Every time I bring the rifle to the range people snicker... until I start ringing the 450 yard gong with the factory iron sights. Worth every penny.
I've been more and more impressed with the 'ol garbage rod!
Man how quickly the prices rise. $295 now for mine, with bayonet, 2 ammo pouches, and oil. Not complaining though, it's still a nice rifle for targets and hunting(or last resort home defense). And it's iconic, what more could you ask for?
It’s always fun up shooting some group of dudes that went all in on some practical rifle just to shoot it in turns while I sit on my ammo can and ping away.
Aaron Yu $295 is still mighty cheap for a relic like that. Which other classics have you bought?
Same I have 2 one iron sight paid about 300 for one with a PU scope.
Been worth every penny. And love out shooting people with 3000 dollar rifles. You can take the mosin out to 1000 meters easy.
I out shoot ar shooters with SKS and AKs all day. But then again I can out shoot them with their own rifle.
Shooting fundamentally does not care about price its knowing your rifle and how to shoot
Really liked that enhanced bolt cycling device.
I can hear the bolt stick.
Just don't use the sickle. Unsheathed pointy things are rarely good to carry in your ruck sack for combat.
Hi loking for a 7.62 mowzine got one to sel with fiexd stock cost 500
@@westernegunsbows3343 That's some of the worst spelling I've ever seen. I do hope this is some kind of joke...
@@stefannilsson2406 Obviously. He's mocking guys who think their gun is something special/valuable just because it's from WW2. So when they list their Mosin or Mauser up for sale on somewhere like GunJoker or Armslist their asking price is always triple what the rifle actually sells for. The title/description will be loaded with misspellings & poor punctuation. At the end of the item description they always say something like: "No lowballerz! I kno what i got!"
Hammer fixes anything russian, even bad relationships.
Thank you, NSA
это проблема этой конкретной винтовки. С другими такого нет.
I'll tell my daughter, she married one.
I do not think so. Rifle bolt was made in China, like shit products they sale around the World.
Now that is fatal
This just proved once .and for all the Mosin is superior than an M4 with ACOG. I shall sell my AR and buy 10 Mosin-Nagants now.
sure just have a hammer at your side
Make sure you shim them correctly with beer cans.
Bhum Brahmavira #NepaleseProblems
@Bhum Brahmavira seriously your stories! Actually I once met a Briton on a shop to Iceland who lost his right arm to a tiger when we lived in India, so I 100% believe you. WE have a sterling that we would like to shoot some time, that was the first firearm I had eve handled.
yea man, that 5000y shot was amazing. M4s got nothing on this!
We’ve seen a few guys ask about the bolt. We discovered that there was a burr in the chamber and when cartridges were fired, the bolt would stick upon expansion, thus requiring extra force to extract the spent casing.
We will likely be helping Lonnie to remedy this issue with a drill and some polishing compound soon.
HEAD SHOT! @ 500yds with a potato tin and vodka 📦 91/30! Great shooting comrade!
I completely fixed that issue with mine by putting cleaning the bolt with Corrosion-X.
would u pls give us Dragonov practical accuracy, pls pls pls
I am wondering though, what you guys think about the original turned-down bolt handle on the sniper version. Is it a "well, you have to with an optic" only thing, or does it hold a straight up advantage over the standard horizontal bolt?
Also, in regards to the ammo, to my knowledge by the time this ammo was made, the USSR did not use Mosins anymore as an issue rifle, in any role. Now given that this is 'regular' ball ammunition, and not the type intended for the SVD, what exactly was this ammo intended for in 1972? Cadet or conscript training? MG's like the PKM? In any case, probably not shooting a 1939 standard issue rifle at 500 yards without optics. Rifle and ammo age gap aside, that probably has an impact on performance too.
Good to see you figured it out, mosin actions are pretty easy to clean up.
GLORIOUS MOSIN PUNCH STRAIGHT THROUGH TIGER 1 ARMOR AT 5KM TOVARISHCH
CLEAN BARREL WITH VODKA MAKE IT MORE ACCURATE
"I don't like it, but I respect it."
I know right, it's a very accurate rifle. It is just that stupid jamming bolt action.
@@nightman4142 The sticky bolt is always caused by an issue with the rifle, it's not something inherent to the design though. I have several milsurp bolt actions that have had similar issues, it's definitely more pronounced in rifles like the Mosin that have the bolt handle in the center of the bolt body, are cock-on-open, and have a 90 degree rotation to unlock the bolt, rifles with bolts similar to a Mauser '98 where the handle is at the rear don't seem to be as tough to open when they have sticky-bolt issues.
The main culprits are residual cosmoline in the action or chamber(remedied by thoroughly cleaning the cosmoline out of the gun), a stiff extractor(usually you can just bend the extractor out a bit to make it less stiff), burrs in the chamber(polish the inside of the chamber carefully and lightly), burrs on the extractor face(polish the face of the claw to allow the cartridge to slip over it easily), or in the case of cock-on-open rifles, it could be that your mainspring is far too strong, which is the case on most Mosins, you can reduce the strength of the spring by sanding the outside of the spring to reduce the thickness of the coils, or a more quick and dirty way would be to just remove 1 or 2 coils from the spring. If you're having sticky bolt issues, give these solutions a try!
@@GC_Rallo Thanks Man, but I had a Russian one that I had to clean Everytime I was done shooting it. I sold it before I knew this. But I have a Finnish Mosin for $150 I bought a year ago and never had a problem with it.
I admit that it is kind of a gamble with Mosins. Some people swear by them and some insist that they are the shittiest rifles on the planet. It was the first rifle I had ever bought. The sights were spot on. I have never had to adjust them. The trigger was a little mushy, but it always fired true. I shot that rifle more accurately than most of the others I have owned or tried. I won’t say it is the best. But I will never sell mine and its design is very accurate for a very cheap military rifle. The prices have gone up now and they are harder to come by, so I wouldn’t recommend them as much these days. But the performance I got for only spending 150 dollars has given me a lot of satisfaction. It is a fantastic rifle, considering that it was only ever meant to be something that could be made quickly and is basically only supposed to work, not be the best.
@@leroyatleroys Interesting posts. I'm a french shooter and want to buy a cheap bolt action rifle with iron sights, and even though a Mosin costs here around 400€, it seems to be still a decent option. For a Mauser, or any cheap plastic bolt action rifle with irons, I'd have to pay the double, maybe even more (yes everything gun related costs a lot here compared to the US). Without even talking about the price of ammo (28 cents/rd, vs nearly 1 buck/rd for pretty much all of the other rifle calibers - surplus 308 being at 50cents/rd though).
> I have a question : is it worth taking a hex mosin for around 60 more bucks ? I'm mainly concerned by the quality of the wood, I want to avoid getting a split buttstock at all costs
Was the hammer issued with the rifle?
Siesta Time yes!!!!
Where's the sickle?
Sticky bolt is a sign that your faith in communism is not strong enough! Comrade! You are going to Gulag to pay the debt you owned to your Motherland!
No, the rifle was issued with the hammer. All soviet tradesmen are given a hammer and rifle as part of their apprenticeship.
Siesta Time
Standard Soviet rifle squad as 4 comrades:
Firstly comrade is only one who had mosin rifle
Secondly comrade carries ammunitions
Thirdly comrade carries hammer for cycling of mosin rifle
Fourthly comrade reports back to commisar to tell of their bravery in defense of the motherland when the other three comrades are martyred by the fascist reich
I think the takeaway is that no matter what rifle you’re shooting, it’s more accurate than you are.
Shoot double ought out of a groove sight rifled shotgun
Unless it’s my POS mosin that shoots a 1000 MOA.
Depends, if your rifles shit and shoots like 6 moa than at 500-600 yards thats tough
Dude , 500 Yds with a mosin.. , I cant even see that far . Open sights . Very impressed by the shooter , the beer can shims and the oil soaked junk mail . Great Vid .
That old beast has quite an impact, even at 500 yards.
Your videos are a real treat (no nonsense, not longer than 15 min, good hosts who know what hey do)! Thank you!
Thank you for the kind comment! We believe in concise videos, and are glad that you guys like them!
Got my Mosin for $100.00 13 years ago, still one of my favorite guns. Peace to all.
No regrets buying mine then. Such a great weapon
The Mosin Nagant was designed in 1891 and was the third design of a smokeless metal cartridge. That is only 26 years after the American Civil War. For those who want to knock the gun, all I did was very little bedding of the tang, one metal tube for the front attachment bolt to be metal to metal, slightly bend the original trigger spring that made it crisper like what the Fins modified with original parts, and corked the barrel to control the harmonics. The top two all time sniper confirmed kills were with Mosin Nagants, 1,005. Out of the top 15, seven were Russians and Finns using the Mosin Nagant for a total of confirmed kills: 2,836. And in the 1980s the Afghanistan people used the Mosin Nagant against the Russian Army with some authority. So for a gun designed after paper cartridge bullets and muskets, a good one still shoots impressively.
Наган не имеет никакого отношения к конструкции этой винтовки. Императорская комиссия навязала Мосину обойму для быстрого заряжания оружия и все
@@user-ws1ip9qi3c Они и таблицу Менделеева называют только переодической таблицей, в большинстве они ещё те шовинисты
So that's why they have hammer and sickle on their flag, hammer for mosin and I guess sickle is for opening vodka bottles?
It's certainly not to manufacture quality automobiles...
I start to notice a trend between firearms and automobiles. Looking at you, Great Britain.
The Mosin itself is an excellent bottle opener, just try it.
No, use ak47 to open vodka
Since I like vodka I have to give you "thumbs up"!
That was just cool! Love my Mosins. Cheap ammo by the spam can and decent accuracy too. I have one that will shoot 1.5 MOA with a dark bore. Pretty crazy.
Only ammo I could buy and shoot without feeling bad for the last couple of years. Grown to really love my mosin '20/'21
This is legit one of my favorite channels. If you end up starting a Patreon I'm in.
Thank you so much for the kind comment! We are considering doing Patron so that we can fund more iconic firearms, but that may not come about till we reach 50k. For now, we're having a blast filming these things!
@@9HoleReviews Great Channel !
@@9HoleReviews So, did you ever start a Patreon?
In WWII, our yakutian (USSR east battlefront) sniper Fedor Okhlopkov "Miracle shooter", killed with this thing, 500 enemies (official), or +1500 kills (an unofficial)!
Андрей Евлев I just read up on it. WOW! That man had some hardships after the war too it seems, and went home with many wounds. I’m glad that they finally decorated him as they should.
And how many misses, nobody ever talks about the misses. Never the less one gets a jaded view of life doing that kind of job. You have to have a really good head on your shoulders to do it. Ask anybody that managed to get thru Marine Scout-Sniper School. Never the less Russia won its part of it with one shot at a time. I hope he was able to have a peaceful life after that god-awful war.
"official" ... Official ussr propaganda perhaps
@@GeorgeSemel our Republic is located in Russia, and we are the indigenous population of Sakha, not Russians and almost everyone lives from an early age,hunting. So what about the misses not to speak. During the war, our people were very respected from Russians, for the ability to shoot well, track down the enemy, navigate the forests. So, a sniper in the war went in free, that is, were free to go hunting. In Russia, for propaganda purposes, if a person is not Russian, he was skeptical and often appropriated their merits, not to mention the downgrading of the murders, because our population in the majority, didn't speak in Russian... Good luck
@@leevin7546 official means verified by team mate, so that soviet government doesnt pay for cheaters. But you dont always have team mate. There was family team that was takin enemies on 1 km distance. Vasiliy Zaytsev describes their tecnique in hes book. Their team would track one target, and all four of them would shoot in one moment. Thus increasing probability of eliminating enemy.
I freaking lost it when the hammer came out.... great demonstration.
Really love the 3 Mosins that I got, plus one Finnish M 39. I never need to worry when I hit the bang switch. It’s gonna kick. I like that. Lots of soldiers on the other end of a Mosin regretted that they were so reliable
This video inspired me to buy my first mosin for $325 at my local cabelas. 1939 round receiver Tula once refinished, and a three times refinished stock wish I knew more history behind my rifle. Thanks 9 hole reviews for the awesome videos!
C&Rsenal did a video on the Mosin. IV8888 has done several videos on markings. I've got a 1939 Tula also 😄
I know this is 4 yrs old (at least) but I have to share. Back in May 2019, my late Father-In-Law (who passed in July 2023) gave me a Izhevsk 91-30 with a hex receiver made in 1927. It came via Century International Arms in the box (which I still have) with the bayonet, oil can, ammo pouches, cleaning kit, sling, etc. AND COSMOLINE....LOTS OF COSMOLINE! It took me 2 years to work up the nerve to clean the weapon and accessories. I waited until the hottest part of our Kansas summer to strip it down, made a pvc pipe tube to place the receiver and barrel in with non-chlorinated brake cleaner and left it for a couple of days. Placed the stock in a black, plastic garbage bag and left it in the sun in the back of my truck (with a black bed liner) to sweat. Took it out occasionally to wipe the cosmoline off and then put it back to sweat some more. After about 2 days, I stood it up in direct sunlight against a fence and let Mr. Sun do his thing. That took care of sweating the cosmoline out. I admit it was a mess and quite the ordeal but (in the end) it turned out really nice, although I can't say I would willingly do it again. LOL. I took a white crayola crayon and carefully filled in the letters and symbols on the receiver. Before I ever began this event, I searched all over the internet for any advice from others who had de-cosmolined mil surp rifles and purchased whatever reference materials I could find on the Mosin - Nagant rifles, their history, maintenance, etc. The research and purchases paid off and I not only own a piece of military history but I have a valued keepsake from my FIL to pass on to the next generation.
Gave $75 for my 1941 Lee Enfield .303 and it has worked flawlessly. One of my favorite rifles to play with. it gets peoples attention at the range. Can it bullseye at 500 yards ? Hell no , it wasn't made to. Can it put a round in your chest at 500 yards ? All day long. I have taken a few Deer with it , longest shot was at 175 yards.
Great video and excellent shooting with the homemade accuracy kit you proved your point. An excellent battle rifle since 1891 - 3 centuries and still serving its the ultimate rifle for a sniper to take in a bombed out city runs to take control.
Had to go ahead and like it before I even watched the video
"I definitely respect it"
Hits it with a hammer
I have a nagant. a little modified with a scope picked up at a gun show a few years ago. one of the best deer rifles ive ever owned. thanks for the review.
cheers! That cartridge is a great deer round. Straight into the dirt.
Isn't it fed law that all rounds used for hunting have to lead free?
Bubblebath ::o for waterfowl
@@rightyouareken7587 No. That only applies to california and in other states when hunting waterfowl with a shotgun.
I have never been so impressed, taking shots that far out are hard to see with irons! Good job!
Thank you for the kind words!
Cool you did do one… I have a 1923 dated Hex barrel ex-dragoon converted to M91/30 with PU scope…. And one dated 1938… both work flawlessly and are amazingly accurate for their age. Love the Russian steel core ammo.
Simple, yet brilliant weapon platform. The soviets done it right with that metric caliber. I own a few M91/30s and a M44A1 and are some of my favorites in my collection. I remember getting them back in the day for well under 100.00 USD. I shot plenty of old mil surp ammo through them with decent accuracy, but cleaned them up reloading for them. Great caliber to reload for, very similar to the .308, but slug the barrel out first due to worn out/over bored barrels.
External claw extractor got a whole new meaning.
He talked about beer can and cardboard gunsmithing and I was intrigued. The second the "mosin tool" came out I knew this was a cool dude. Now I want to go shoot mine.
That ending 😂😂😂😂
;)
Cyka Blyat!
I just got hands on a Mosin Nagant M44 which was severely used in combat.
So lucky i found that gem for 90$ with the bayonett - looks worn but shoots perfectly, the inside of the barrel is top notch and the bolt works surprisingly well
I'm too old for open sights. So I got a extra bolt and had Boltman bend it, got a BADACE scope mount, a low riser extension, a SWFA 10 X 42 Mil rad scope, and I'm shooting out to 966 yards with Monarch ammo. It is one of my favorites rifles. I also did a trigger job like what the Finns did. And if the bolt is tight, that is a sign of a good shooting Mosin and I also put thin 1 inch strips of cork around the barrel like the Finns, and that tightened my groups to 1/2" moa. So here is my cork trick. I would run a fairly tight patch slowly starting at the breech. If I hit a spot in the barrel that seemed looser, I marked it and put the one inch cork dampener there, as well as one at the end of the barrel. I also made sure that none of the banding at the end of the barrel touch the barrel. I had bought a synthetic stock and free floated the barrel.But what I found, since this is a gun with a very thin barrel, it doesn't like to be free floated. But using the wood and cork and controlling the harmonics made this form mediocre to a shooter. I also pressed in one metal insert for one of the mounting screws, so there is no movement, Than I put a very small amount JB Weld in the tang so it is seated, and sprinkled a little saw dust to hide the cheat. I found neutral shoe polish acts a s a good release agent. So besides the scope, it looks bone original. If you are interested you can go to the BadAce FB page and see my rifle. And you can also see how I modified the front sight post to make it fully adjustable. Because the beauty is, I also can take the scope mount off and shoot it in military open sight competition too. And with that front post modification you can fine tune your rifle for better accuracy. facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2459797620731727&set=2459797620731727&type=3&theater and I did put a pin and got rid of the bolt for the scope mount
facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2403468593031297&set=p.2403468593031297&type=3&theater front sight modification to make it adjustable facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2403488086362681&set=p.2403488086362681&type=3&theater this is at 966 yards facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2403487193029437&set=p.2403487193029437&type=3&theater the white sandy road right of center is the 966 yard target facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2403499779694845&set=p.2403499779694845&type=3&theater SWFA reticle, a great fixed scope for $299.00 facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2403460746365415&set=p.2403460746365415&type=3&theater my 100 yard groups in an indoor range. The range master watched me tweek the gun from two inch groups to this with the modifications I wrote above.
I've been waiting for this video...
UNZIPS PANTS
I see you are a man of culture
Im waiting for an other great rifle: k98 Mauser.
But i enjoy each of the videos.!
Thanks matte.
We've already filmed the standard infantry Mauser K98k, but we are trying to finish up with the K98k sniper to release in unison.
@@9HoleReviews wow...!!!
I see that Garand Thumb fans are watching this video. Lol.
Great video and a truly great and historic rifle.... and sometimes the time was taken to make them extremely accurate, like the OG sniper versions and what the Finns did with the ones they captured. Russian military doctrine required bayonets fixed at almost all times, and Mosin barrel harmonics were designed with this in mind, certainly back in 1891. The rifle has barely changed since then. The M44 carbine version with permanent fold-out bayonet displays the difference in point-of-aim between bayo/no bayo most prominently. A lot of these old warhorses have quirks, and the bayonet is a definite factor in any range evaluation of the Mosin Nagant rifle. But enough of that, thank you for the valuable video :)
@sidneybrissey5074, Shooting with a bayonet was a sabotage that history did not know. It is enough to look at the military chronicle to understand that the soldiers fired in battle without a fixed bayonet. In the Mosinka sample of 1930, the bayonet was made removable, but they did not give the soldiers a cover to carry it, leaving the shooting with the bayonet fixed. As a result, soldiers threw out bayonets en masse to lighten their burden, and fired past the target in battle, starting from a distance of 100 meters and further. This is not the only sabotage in the armament of the Red Army. And now it's the same story with the Russian army, drones are being sabotaged at the highest level, satellite high-precision equipment is being sabotaged, the communication, surveillance and intelligence system is being sabotaged. Even the weapons that are not used as it should be. Globalists need to fulfill the plan for the number of victims in the war.
According to the testimony of SS Obergruppenfuhrer Erich von dem Bach Zelewski, before the invasion of the Soviet Union, SS leader Heinrich Himler at a meeting of the secret society of senior SS officers at Wewelsburg Castle revealed to high-ranking SS officers that the destruction of 30 million Soviet people was planned in the upcoming war. According to even the official modern statistics, the globalists have fulfilled the plan. And not the least role in this was played by the sabotage of weapons and communications equipment of the Red Army.
The number of victims of the ongoing war is also planned by the globalists. And all politicians, special services and agents of influence work for the pyramid of Satanists, do everything to fulfill their plans.
Considering this 91/30 got only cheap Russian surplus ammo while the 98k or 3006 got hand loaded ammo with match grade bullets, the mosin is fairly accurate! Love it.
Thanks for the wonderful video.
Sure hard to invade a country using yards and miles.
Or Arshins . . .
I am so glad this video is out
what a marvelous 500y headshot
Me and my uncle took my old 1943 Mosin out and rung a 10 inch gong at 800 yards all day. It was a blast! The Mosin is not as bad as people make it out to be.
It's not the accuracy that makes it trash, it's the sticky bolt. Notice he has to beat it open with a hammer at times. Mine is the same way.
Mine has never jammed
Dude. Your a genius. No bullshit. Just shoot. The most entertaining nagant video on TH-cam. As for the rest. Great shooting. Wonderful idea for a guntube video. My absolute favorite to watch. Thanks for getting out there and doing it
Cheers! Really appreciate the comment. These milsurps have been the most fun to collect and shoot. They all have a personality to them as well.
Completely objective end card. The Motherland approves.
Know how to fix that sticky bolt? Buy an 03 Springfield..
Honestly the 91/30 is a rock solid rifle all joking aside, and way more accurate than it gets credit for.
Right after I bought my Mosin, I took it to the range, but the bolt stuck. I showed it to a Russian guy that was thrilled I bought the rifle. He said he could fix the stick bolt. He laid it on the concrete floor bolt down and stomped on it. It did the trick and the bolt was opened. I was surprised that he treat my rifle like that but he said it was Russian and made and could take the abuse. He told me that I did not remove all of the cosmoline. I cleaned it two more times and it works fine now. I shot it three times at 100 yards hitting the targets. I immediately aimed for the 200 yard targets with him spotting and hit the targets. He asked me what I thought of the rifle and I told him that we need to set the range up for 300, 400, and 500 yard targets. He told me that I thought like a Russian. I paid $80 for the rifle and I should have bought a case of rifles and 10 tuna cans of ammo.
If someone rob you with a mosin
Just give him the money he'll need it more than you
Yeah, he'll need the money to buy a better gun. Or at least a claw hammer.
Thanks so much for doing this. 500 yards with iron sights, almost 200 yards further than an AR-15. I'm sure that bolt action can be smoothed out with some careful filing.
Не родные патроны, я могу выстрелить 50 раз, русскими патронами, и проблем никаких
You NEED to shoot the Finnish M39, the pinnacle of Mosins.
Indeed , ive got a Sako M-39 and its not pretty
[ i call her ole ugly ] , but she sure shoots nice , guys at the range laugh when i pull it out till they see it hitting plates out there .[ and the bolt is smooth ]
I own an M39 and agree.
Freaked out some people at a range making 300 yard hits on C zone steel during late dusk with it. Best part of that was the huge sparks the steel jackets made on target.
I have a 1915 M90. She's my badass Russian-made/Finnish-captured beauty. I won't sell her for anything.
@@immikeurnot got me a 1942 VKT M39 on an 1899 Tula, it was a post war refurb that had no shims, but it shoots dang well, I love her
@@johnwallace1729 Yes. There is no comparison between the craftsmanship of the skilled workers from Sako and the average Russian Mosin.
Glad to see you acknowledge that you shouldn't need a hammer to bring the bolt back after such few rounds!
I was thinking oh man something is wrong here.
I have my grandfathers Finnish captured M91-30 from the winter war and it is smooth as silk to shoot. One of my greatest possessions from him!
Hit a bunch of steel targets at 300 yards with my Mosin Nagant and iron sights a few weeks ago. The rifle and ammo are more than capable
Stock sights?
I wish I had access to a range with that kind of distance. Ive never gotten to test my rifles out at those kinds of ranges.
I go into the desert,
Me too.
That ending was 10/10😂😂
It is worth noting that those rifles where sighted in with their bayonets attached. So without one the impact will shift left or right and will usually shift vertically as well.
A man that knows his Mosins. Great gun. Peace.
I have seen shot and owned several of these guns and even the ones with rusty bores shoot accurately with ease. Never underestimate the Mosin Nagant.
the hard core practical shooting suddenly filled with memes with Mother Russia and .... a hammer!!!
I love a good Mosin range session!
My personal experience with certain ammo and a sticking bolt when hot was due to the hardened cosmoline in the chamber that resembled hard varnish coated the inside. Was hard to tell it was there at first, but after pouring some boiling water down the barrel, and using a chamber brush repeatedly with dish soap, the issue cleared completely.
The problem with the sights deviating as the range increased is because the sights were regulated for 1930-design type L lead-core flat-base spitzer, while that ammo is post-war-design LPS steel-core boat-tail spitzer, with the same weight and velocity but better ballistic coefficient.
It's blyatiful!
Underrated comment
Agreed,blin
Its nice to see when younger shooters can get good accuracy with iron sights. Wait a few years and hell be shopping for scopes like the rest of us. :-)
Shun you for putting that jinx on me. I will never grow old!!!!!
@@9HoleReviews Just the vision part. The rest of you can stay young. Still gotta hold tbe rifle steady after all. :-)
I have a 1939 Tula factory built Accuracy Rifle and it is bang on, accurate. I can hit targets easy out to 900+ yards.
Everybody has problems with bolt sticking but after polishing the hell out of mine to a high shine as well as the trigger assembly it is absolute magic. It doesn't matter how much I shoot the bolt does not stick and I don't have to manhandle it
some are like that from the start :)
Weapon of victory.
You guys conceptually are the best.
Thank you for the kind words!
I use my Mosin for deer hunting. Paid about $90 for it back in 2003. When I get a stuck bolt, I just close and open again. Most of the time, you are not rotating the bolt far enough to clear the lug. Oddly enough, I have less malfunction than my Remington Woodmaster 4 which now likes jam cartridge in the feeding cone then rip the back off when it ejects. This results in me using my cleaning rod to remove the spent cartridge.
Just discovered this channel and series. Nothin better than finding a new youtube gem.
That outro brought tears to my eyes.
hahahahahahahahhahaha Mission success, comrade.
Strange to see the bolt sticking like that, I've never had a problem with vintage surplus ammo in my 1932 Izhevsk Mosin
Probably cosmoline wasnt cleaned well, thats why it sticks
Primary extraction tool as shown on flag ! Pretty decent sight radius on the old 3 line rifle , no wonder they shoot well. Nice shooting. I bought one of the Polish made carbines still in the grease : beautifully made and quite a good shooter too.
I havent seen much mosin love these last few years, this sure aint 2009 youtubes anymore, I miss those days.
It's an old design that simply won't die. Like all Russian stuff.
Good vid, some of these really are good shooters. Many will require some tinkering though, parts were swapped around during the refurb process and can cause issues with a poorly fitting interrupter and rimlock, burrs and machine marks causing the bolt to stick, etc. You have to have some love for your Mosin and do a little work, but they can get the job done.
They will never have an action like a nice Mauser simply due to the crappy design of the bolt, but there are issues you can fix pretty easily if you are having to beat the bolt open. In this case, it had a burr in the chamber.
A lot of wartime guns suffered from poor machine work due to the hurry to get guns into the hands of troops. For most designs, these were mainly cosmetic issues. Due to the Mosins design, the hurried manufacture can cause more functional issues mostly due to bolt design and the fact it uses a rimmed cartridge.
You gotta do a pu sniper with the scope PLEASE
Oh we're looking hard for one!
If you do end up finding a PU I will donate an accurizing kit for it. If I was closer I have PE, PEM, and PU variants you could use.
raupleminze speaking of PU, sweet avatar!
Thanks 9-Hole Reviews! Contact me at Milsurpaccuracyinc.com and I’ll send a kit to you.
See your misses, twice magnified!
I live the way these guy do their reviews. Simple and too the point.
Great video and good lord, the bass drops when that thing goes off. The sound of the plates getting smacked around too, just ridiculous!
Nice hammer... now include a sickle with it and the picture's complete
LOL
shoots mosin and harvests wheat on the same day.
@@9HoleReviews Da tovarich, livin the Soviet life for the motherland *balalaika intensifies*
you are keeping me from study
X2
Damn good shooting. I love seeing people's faces when I prove them wrong with my 91/30. I have the Mojo front sight though. Props for using the original.
I was a conscript in the Finnish defense forces, light field artillery. I played around with a 122mm (4.8 inch) howitzer and a 130mm (5.1 inch) cannon, and I can verify that hammer is an essential tool when dealing with old soviets weaponry. Also, the bigger the gun, the bigger the hammer.
We just shot the M39 this weekend, and made some duplicate Finnish 7.62x53R ammunition. Holy. Crap. The M39 is one incredible weapon!
I just love the fact that it is a normal thing for him to be like "crap let me get the hammer out again"
I really hope you guys can do this with Spanish, Yugo, Brazilian or German mausers.
We already filmed the standard Kar98k, but pending the Kar98k Sniper to release together.
Finally,someone who knows how to use Mosin bolt properly
People hate on these but I bought one for 100 bucks from Big 5 when I was 18. Then next payday I got a can of that surplus for 80 bucks or whatever it was. It was my first gun because money, and my family wasn't into guns at all. It was a 1943 izzy and it had a bright bore and it cycled smooth, my friend who knew alot about them helped me pick it out. By the time I had the ammo I knew how to completely take it apart and put it back together, I spent hours doing it off youtube on my parents living room floor. I was infatuated. I still love the smell of cosmoline, I spent hours upon hours shooting that rifle in the desert and I was hitting steel at the range at 600 yards with it before long. I had been watching military history channel and mail call with R Le Ermy and all those shows since I was like 7, this was a buildup of a lust I had for firearms ever since I was a kid and now it was mine in my hands. Now at 28 I am a 1000 yard shooter,I have smashed coyote with Irons on my AR at 400, and I have won a few handgun competitions. It lay the groundwork for who I am as a shooter today, and I will always love them.
Aren't the sights on Mosin rifles off-set to one side because the rifle was sighted with bayonet attached? So front post is moved to the right,
it is
This one was rezeroed for shooting sans bayonet.
Many war time guns have sight to the right, because of barrels twisted on too far. Pre-war guns have front front sights that are centered most of the time, and they shoot a tad right and high. The bayonet brings the bullet impacts down and center sometimes, depending on front sight height. :) th-cam.com/video/qTgYz5eYR4A/w-d-xo.html
no it is a legend Mosin was not sighted to shoot with a bayonet.
@@piligrimm2 lets see your video about it?
For a rifle that was built for $6.00 worth of materials , hey , 10 to 1 that chamber has a bunch of gunked up cosmo in it ,, or the bolt got swapped , i like the Sako And Tikka m-39 versions @ the m-44 carbines are shooters, not a swede mauser or a enfield ,but they used to be cheap,and you could buy tins of ammo for 39 to 65 bucks.
yaa agreed , thanks to obama ammo went up , still like shooting them
I tried this today with Tula ammunition. Got it done in 35 shots. This video inspired me to dig out the mosin and give it a shot
Damn that 7.62r slaps them HARD!
Ahhh...the Good ole' Mosin finally made a showing! One of my first C/R Rifles back in the day and still one of my fave to shoot...mainly because I love the cartridge, killed a ton of hogs and deer with it. Maybe next we can do the short barreled "fire breathers?" The M-38 and M-44?
You guys really don't like my shoulder huh?
Oh C'mon, sacrifice that shoulder for the greater good! :)
No Seriously, I would love to see you guys do the 500m test on a Finnish M-28/30, the rifle of WW2 Finnish Sniper Simo Hayha.
www.mosinnagant.net/finland/simohayha.asp
Would you guys take an M39?
@@9HoleReviews Absolutely!
I have two and love em
Fun and underrated rifles for sure!
@@9HoleReviews one of mine is in a archangel stock
I do have one that is bubba put into a after market stock
Are they accurate enough to take out hunting because I am intrested in buying one?
A lot of these Mosin Nagant rifles came into this country in new condition, they were still wrapped in burlap and soaked in cosmoline. It is hard to get all of the cosmoline out of the chamber. When the riffle is fired, this cosmoline melts for an instant and cools gluing the cartridge case in the chamber. I removed the bolt and took a .410 shotgun brush and a piece of a cleaning rod, put this in a drill and cleaned the chamber for three minutes. This solved my Mosinka (Russian name for this rifle, pronounced mo-SEEN-ka) sticky bolt problem.
Allen Crump we cleaned the cosmo. There was a burr in the chamber
@@9HoleReviews Understood, I was sharing what worked for me. For these guns to work as well as they do, some of the machining is atrocious!
What a real comrade using a hammer to eject the shells from the bolt sticking due to heat. I do the same exact thing when i use my mosin.
I've never had that kind of an issue with both my mosins
Every m91/30 is issued with a hammer to get the bolt open. And when you run out of 7.62×54r... you use hammer as a weapon and mosin as a long range hammer
Opening the bolt with a hammer is the most Mosin thing I’ve ever seen ever
It's Hammer time
I lapped in my bolt with valve stem grinding compond. Now it works beautiful. Very smooth
Nothing like good old fashioned wood and iron. When I was first getting into guns I was all about the tactical plastic stuff but now I find super modern firearms boring. The Mosin gets the credit for that because it was my first surplus gun.
"This is quality work!"
*uses hammer to knock bolt back*
The "Heavy Ball" ammo has head spacing for the machine-gun and Drganov rifles. Mine did the same with the bolt and shoots best with the 147 grain light ball. Good video.
This is legendary rifle. Shooters also are good.
that hammer part killed... good old russian engineering