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In Asian cultures this "full time children" is not looked down upon nor even seen that way. Lots of families stay together in adulthood just to help eachother or to stay and grow as a family. Its only western culture that thinks its a weird phenomenon
Yeah. I'm from South America and not considered as "west" tho some people here would be surprised to learn it. Alas it is super normal here for families to stay together because of our culture and because moving out is super expensive. (I've lived with my mom all my life, moving out has never been a issue and she'd have a hard time living alone).
Same thing in many African societies even if they don’t live together we live close to each other in the same towns or villages to support each other economically. It’s usually children who move to college and work because it’s a necessity but after graduating or retiring nearly all return to their homes where they were raised since it’s mostly ancestral land.
From my perspective and experience, that is true. In my asian culture, it is custom that the eldest son takes over the home with his wife and have his parents live with them. With modernizing, it isn't always the eldest son anymore. As long as the aging parents are taken care of.
Ok but in those cultures (and similar ones like Hispanic) adults stay but they still fully contribute to the family. Not like adults in the west doing nothing
Living with your family helps both ends gives the younger generation a place to live and the older generation a caretaker nothing new just “new” to western culture and its assumptions
@@perfectallycromulent lmao wth you talking about, there are plenty of other cultures with young people living with the older gen, Asian, Middle-Eastern AND European.
I lived at home through my 20s but my Dad had a stroke and I helped Mom care for him. So yea on the outside I seem like a bum. the reality was that instead of going out drinking, I was making sure Dad got his daily walk and was eating enough
I'm especially frustrated with people acting like we all went to college for Gender Studies so we can't find work. I went into Civil Engineering and have been job hunting for two years
It sounds demeaning the way you set ‘gender studies’ as a bad thing, or your career as a superior one. I do hope u can find a job that you’re happy with!! and that the patience you’ve put to finding a job comes to fruition!
It's hard for everyone. There are engineering students in China raising ducks. Don't give up looking and find ways to look outside the box and be willing to move for a job. I remember a young man who just finished welding school and couldn't get a job because he didn't have experience yet no one would give him the opportunity to get experience. He was at the point of willing to work for nothing to get experience for a job. He lived with his grandmother and really wanted to earn a living so he would be taking care of her instead of her taking care of him. Such a sweet man and he eventually got the job he was wanting. One of those rare times you talk to the same stranger more then one time. I have had more conversations with people who talked about their job and life with me then any other at my local store out shopping.
You are correct! I should not have said that! I personally believe that the social sciences are necessary in the changing world we live in, especially one that lacks media literacy and empathy. I personally don't believe any major is more important than the other, and would actually love to take a minor in social issues if I had the money but veered more into engineering since it was a "safer investment" I should not have been parroting the sentiment I hear from older generations about why younger people don't work. @@YowaneHakuu
As a 55 year old gen x-er, I struggled being a single mom back in the 90's and early 2000's. My son was a latchkey kid from the age of 9. I don't blame young people for not wanting to have children now. However much I struggled 20-30 years ago, I believe it's only gotten worse since then.
Oh look it's Chris the crusader again. Remember when we were expected to have Guess jeans and blast jackets to be accepted. Now it's just cell phones and trips to Europe. What has changed is the expectation for expensive things. Take your 15 bucks and share a crusty old roach infested apartment with your friends until it gets better. That's how we rolled. It wasn't diamonds and pearls for us. And abortions have nothing to do with any of this, so go elsewhere social Christian justice warrior.
45y/o Gen X, and couldn't agree more. I raised myself, as the product of a boomer teen pregnancy. My mom is garbage. My father was garbage. All the "adults," (mostly boomers) I grew up around were horrible people with zero empathy. My life has been a nightmare. I'm glad younger people are doing their best to not put children through what I/we went through.
I love it when the boomer generation talks down about youths, as though we had elders watching out for our well-being like their depression-era parents did for them. They shimmied up the ladder and destroyed it right after them, yet we’re the problem because we can’t afford $1 million + dollars 2 bed 2 bath rundown houses on the lowest legal wage they’ll give us. It’s why “okay boomer ✌️ “ became such a hot phrase to use: there’s no arguing with the lead-poisoned among us.
This! I'm Gen X, and we literally raised ourselves. Boomers really screwed us up, and every generation after. I don't know how anyone in my generation survived. We get talked about like we're all doing great, and I'm sure there were a few people in my generation that did okay, but most of the kids I knew were smoking and drinking at 11y/o, and working minimum wage most of their lives. I'm disabled, have a van-home, and my husband and I are trying to build a school bus home so we have more room. I honestly don't know where these a-holes are getting their data from, but I know plenty of Gen X, and no one has asked us a damn thing. Most of the time we don't exist, and when we do the data lies.
@@tinkergnomad oh trust me, you’re preaching to the choir. I’m of the very latest of Millenials (Oct ‘96) and was raised by one of those feral-raised Gen X’ers. We’re at least in agreement that her boomer mom (Im embarrassed to call her grandma) screwed all future generations of our family after because she was too busy smoking, drinking, partying and slutting it up while her kids were left to their own devices. Ngl she’s kinda the quintessential boomer to me: did nothing but live in decadent self-serving her whole life yet expects everyone else to wait on them bc oLd
Honestly, as someone in gen Z, I think the boomer bashing is overrated. Did you have a choice as to when you were born? Neither did they. It's not their fault they were able to reep the riches of American empire when it was at its height.
@ahlishaholloway233 It’s not about hitting the birth year jackpot it’s about shaming us for not. They lack perspective a lot of them. That’s the issue.
I am happy to see us questioning the individuation of the market. Previous generations got good jobs with good pay and health benefits and housing market- moving out and “growing up” is no longer affordable.
@@ingridgallagher1029You don't need financial literacy when your nation's currency is tied to gold and your nation controls the world's manufacturing base.
I think its easy to see kids living with their parents as a good thing, but we forget that its not that easy. Some parents want their kids to stay kids and will still control them, make them do crazy chores and treat them like a child. I remember when I moved back home for 1 month, it was rough. After work I just wanted to destress but couldn't. Cook lunch for work the next day and having my dad eat the food i made then saying its not nice to cook just for me. Having to still clean up after parents. A bunch of stuff is broken in the house and when you try to fix it, they dont want to fix it that way they want you to leave it as is. My point being kids staying with parents because they want to is unlikely, they are forced to. Sure there is a benefit of not paying rent and electric, but at what cost to your soul. The plan was for me to live there for a few months i only lasted 1 month. Seeing genz stuck at home i cant help but feel bad
I know this experience all too well, but imagine being encouraged not to pay rent elsewhere and still being treated like a mindless child. It can and will drain your soul if you allow it.
I remember when I moved in with my parents after college for a year My mother said "When I was YOUR AGE I didn't TAKE MONEY from MY MOTHER. Because I had RESPECT FOR HER" You are right it does kill your soul. I'm very lucky that I was able to move out.
Im so relieved to see Im not the only one forced to stay with their parent! Im part Mexican and that side of my family is sexist af. I was raised to take care of men, mainly my father, since I could walk! One of my first memories is being called into the living room to change the channel on the tv but had no idea which button to press and he got mad at me bc i couldnt do it. Ffwd to today and now he is actually disabled and I have no choice but to take care of him or he will die! Not bc he is deathly ill but be he REFUSES to take care of himself. He is emotionally abusive, treats me like a servant and as it turns out I AM Autistic and the one that needed extra help all along, not him 😣 Ill be stuck here until he dies and I have no life of my own since I hurt my back and also became disabled. I do have a sibling who could theoretically help but he is male and never had to do anything for anyone ever, so ofc he lives on the other side if the planet and visits maybe once a year. 😓 fml Edit: I never get paid. Im lucky he buys me and my cat food.
Where did they come up with that living at home with family means youre a full time child thats a very big misconception and not all who live at home benefit
Love how the pope is calling us selfish without considering that some of us would love to have another child but can’t afford it since we both have to work and day care costs so much. Maybe the pope should be calling the government selfish for not helping out with that.
And a rich, childfree men like a pope saying those things is flat out hillarious. Having kids is so glorious he made a vote no never have none 🤡 🤡 🤡 🤡 🤡...
This sadly is also the reason many young adults end up staying in their Abusive Situations- bc their parents are terrible people but life rn is way too expensive to live on one’s own :-(
"If you're looking around for an entry-level job...entry-level jobs require 5 years of experience." I'm 40 years old (an old millennial) and I've been saying that since 2017." Entry-level is now 3-5 years of experience meaning people with mid-level skills have to apply to jobs with entry-level salary. Mid-level is now 7-10 which used to be closer to senior level, again putting the worker at a lower salary. By the way, all these jobs are probably contract except for the senior position.
If I were to eat 4 slices of avocado toast every single morning it would cost less than 700AUD a year and amount to less than $2 per breakfast. I guess I should stop eating breakfast altogether so I can put those CRUCIAL 700 bucks towards raising a family and getting a mortgage 🤡
That guy is actually from a wealthy family and got thousands of dollars from his grandfather to start a company. He doesn’t know 💩 about life of regular people. He just like to preach to feel important
In Spanish and Italian families, the children stay with their families til they can get married and move out. Maybe that idea isn't so dumb after all. I stayed with my family til they died and then inherited the house mortaguage free but Im without kids or a partner so I just have to worry about paying my own bills. Am I seen as an adult? Nope. Do I want to be? Also nope. Because of my mental health, I was never seen as an adult regardless of what age I was and frankly, I don't care anymore. Those old tired tropes of life goals need a serious wake up call, only the rich and wealthy can AFFORD to choose that game plan anymore.
@@starscreamthecruel8026 That's true. Honestly people should stop trying to check boxes and concentrate on living a life that's functional and fulfilling for THEM, not other people or "common sense" (which is still subjective).
As I grow older I'm learning how more and more important the friendships that you build with people not just family are to life. I love that people are learning that you don't need to be in a relationship to feel love, friendship and part of a community.
I never had an interest in being an adult, everything about it sounds awful and nothing about it appeals to me. I’m a 35 year old teenager on the inside.
One thing not mentioned in the video is the average life expectancy has been increasing steadily, whereas number of dwellings built is not keeping up, leading to higher real estate. On top of that, real wages has not been keeping up with the productivity increase since the 70s, where most of the profit goes to top management and shareholders. Inequality gets worse, middle class eliminated, what do you expect to happen?
I would add that the new housing that is going up is "luxury" apartments and developments. Construction companies will build $2,000 per month studio apartments because they think they will be more profitable. Who the hell has that kind of money?
Not having children and not getting married are only rational strategies to deal with not being able to afford a home and wanting to be able to finance one’s children education. Anything else is irresponsible.
The people saying that not having children is selfish never thought about giving their children a stable home, be that because they didn't have to struggle to gain a stable home or because they never even considered that sometimes putting a new life on this planet when you are not financially, socially or emotionally secure is just irresponsible and will lead to damage that the child has to endure.
I would revolt against the wedding industry. Oh, I did. I got married on the beach. My husband brought his best friend, I brought my best friend. I wore a simple white dress, brought flowers from the supermarket, wrapped a ribbon around it. It was simple, beautiful, and inexpensive. We were very happy. There was no stress.
I’ve never been very close to my parents, my siblings and me were brought up very independent. I thought that it is good for me, until I became a stay at home mom. The isolation made me think about this topic so much. Seeing my grandma, my mum and me with my daughter makes me think about how we all would benefit from living together. A very usual story- my grandma is sick, my mom is taking care of her, and my mom is tired, and I am alone a lot with my daughter. If we would live together, the tasks would mix up. They would get a lively energy from the toddler, I could cook and take care of them, sometimes they could cook for me, and everyone helps everyone and not get burned out. If you can live like that in a loving family with everyone respecting the other members’ boundaries, I think you are very lucky!
When my late mother was alive, she never minded a bit about her adult disabled daughter staying home nad helping her as much as she needed her to. With this happening, its not shameful, society has to adapt as everyone else is, there is no straight line in a persons life with things. its very different now than in my late mothers time.
I get why adoption is so popular. I'm never gonna give birth myself either. Pregnancy is just a whole package of nope for me. It's extremely painful, really bad for your health, takes from your pension and it has assholes calling women an unreliable workforce. Plus with adoption a child gets the chance to grow up in a stable home that they otherwise would have been denied.
This is the way. Adoption helps someone who was denied what should have been guaranteed, but the world just isn't fair or kind. I won't blame anyone for wanting biological children, but claiming any sort of superiority of blood children over adopted is where I cross the line.
Can I just say that, then logically maybe weddings should be put off/saved for, as anniversary gifts? Like after the couple got their marriage license, 5-10 years later they can make their first wedding a vow renewal ceremony instead,
im a gen xer . i live with my brother in property that we inherited from my mom passing at an early age but before she did i cohabited with her and we had the support of each other financally and physicall that continues with my brother and were very happy .i never had kids and his are grown up so it fits so well in our mid fourties to share living expenses and have another person there for security and company .
I would love to have a good paying job, move out, and have kids - but each is impossible for me. Im 25, living at home and after being denied by bots reading my resume and after interviewing multiple times for entry level jobs im qualified for, I have a degree, and then being told I don't have enough experience - im getting my masters degree, I already have insurmountable debt from undergrad, so fortunately was only able to get my masters due to an amazing scholarship program. If I can't find a good paying job after the stress of getting a masters tho... then idk what to even do. How do I live in this world?
I was born 80. Me and my best friend have a five year plan to buy a house together. We're soooo excited, have a pinterest board for it while we're saving and advancing in education/job.
It's true. People my age would be having "geriatric pregnancies" -- and only if they hurry! -- yet I still don't quite feel financially ready to have a child. It's finally something that seems like it could be realistic IN A FEW MORE YEARS. At this rate it seems like no one will be having and raising their own biological kids -- they'll be paying younger people to have them or adopting.
we spent a total of $1800 on our wedding, renting a restored 1920s cabin at a county owned park that I took my husband to on our first camping trip. I invited all my family. My dress was literally from Amazon. My sister's friend used her Polaroid to take pictures of guests at the door as a gift to us, and those pictures were our wedding favors. My sister is a pastry chef and baked our cake, and my uncle loves woodworking and made our cake stand and MANY decorations. My aunt officiated as her gift to us. I was so blessed to be surrounded by people who wanted to make my night magical and it really was. When I went to my cousin's $20,000 wedding, I saw how stressed it made her. Her in-laws were very traditional and basically EXPECTED a grand wedding with all the bells and whistles... they kept showing her social media posts of everyone else's "perfect" weddings. And they only paid for $5k of it. The societal pressure that our generation feels to have that "perfect" wedding is so real and I wish couples didn't have to deal with it.
I am one of the bumerang millenials (someone who moved back after graduating from college and not being able to find a sustainable job). After having to leave the dorms, it wasn't financially clever to get an apartement in a super expensive city. But it also wasn't clever to get an apartement in my home town when I was applying country-wide and when most of the jobs require me to start "immediately". The way the job market works is that they take forever to reply to your application and then expect you to be able to start the job within 2 weeks of them offering it to you. That just isn't feasible unless you're only job hunting in the city you live in. So I moved back, thinking it will just be a couple of month. Got a callcenter job in home office as a temporary solution. Now it's 2,5 years later and I am still struggling to find an appropriate job for my degree. Additionally, I got burned out from the callcenter job and now that they threw me out, I get snarky comments about being comfortable living alone on the cost of my parents. Noone cares that I pay them rent and that I have quite a bit of money savings.
the living with parents bit is not a trend. intergenerational living was the norm across the world for uh...most of human history. we had a growth of individualism in the mid-20th century (and a large growth of the middle class and the explosion of suburbia - which is fuelled by people moving out and having nuclear families) and now people act like that's the default setting
Curious why pensions are being referred to as an option that young people are declining as opposed to a bygone avenue for retirement. Pensions don’t exist unless you work for the government in some capacity. Period
Yes. The thought comes from the idea that there's already children who need our help - and that most women aren't down to play anybody's incubator ever again.
If you have the financial security to adopt you should also have the financial security to give that child a good life, right? Oh and better chances of advancing your career if you don't require maternity-leave, giving you even more financial security to make sure you and your kid live a comfortable life.
Be careful blindly promoting “adult adopting”. This can be slippery slope with financial power struggles. Case in point the TLC show that ended up getting pulled. A man and his wife adopted a young pregnant mother with little to no opportunities. He had a history of being sexual with a past adopted adult. Not saying this happens in all cases, but the “Shrill” example is the BEST case scenario. Educate financially vulnerable adults on the predators taking advantage of this before they agree to be adopted is all I’m saying.
The nuclear family and the separation of generations is a modern western trend. Starting from the early 20th Century it became a social aspiration and norm after world war 2. This move greatly benefited mass consumerism and mass productivity of the new economic model of disposable income and disposable goods. The real reason people are freaked about full time children, is if families live in one household who is fighting for housing. One house hold will typically only require one washing machine, fridge, cooker etc. A child is looked after, an adult who contributes to the house hold through financial or through service actions such as cleaning, gardening, and shopping is not a child. Considering the top heavy burden of aging boomers it should be thought of as a service to care for ones parents but then how will the industrial care complex make any money?
Hey as long as the alternative is homelessness which is not ideal and extremely embarrassing (let's not kid ourselves, it is) then yeah, living with the parents or your buddies or your sugar daddy and affording life that way is the next best thing.
I understand staying with your parents as long as you help out. When I was much younger and between jobs while living with my Mom, I kept the house spotless, did the shopping, and most of the cooking.
Personally I'd like to adopt too, once I have those 4 important things - stable home, stable work environment, financial stability that can support 2 people adequately and a stable supportnetwork. If that's not in the cards then... well, then it's not like the world is going to end. Having a child is not something that I need to strike off some bucket list no matter what. It's a commitment, not a commodity. And I'd rather not mess my kid up by rushing into it just to get it done.
@@rftt6y7trUnfortunately where I am from there are just not enough care homes and nurses to take care of the rising elderly population. The reasons for that being the abismal pay you get, the work being looked down upon, as well as the fear of having to work with dangerous patients (even if it is not professional to admit it). So where I'm from my generation won't have any choice but to take care of their parents with occasional professional help.
@@keenoled Was just thinking of this. If the parents were toxic narcissists, why would their children spend their adulthood taking care of those asshole parents in their old age? It would be better to get the hell away from the asshole parents.
So, underpaying TF outta someone so you can overwork them in a job they're not qualified for instead of hiring a professional? Yep. That sounds like a boomer thing to do.
Why can't life these days be more easy to handle for older and younger people alike instead of letting society put in specific boxes of how we're meant to live and "serve them" based on age-groups, people are now even struggling to just meet their basic meets, today's suffocating society just wants us to remember we're just mindless wage-slaves to keep the billionares on top to them not individuals with our own lives and aspirations.
i agree that at some point there are particularities of gen y/z way of being and social/ economical context. but i also feel that the way society is being led so far, i see A LOT of boomers and gen x behaving in an infantilized way, but that is covered or disguised by these "important marks" such as a home, a family, and a job. but are the previous generations more mature? i don't really think so. women used to be financially dependent not so long ago, and men never really learned how to take care of themselves or taking responsability for their actions.
I would just like to point out, Gen Z is 11-26 years old. OF COURSE more than 54% of them live at home, that generation is MOSTLY CHILDREN. LITERAL CHILDREN. How are you gonna accuse someone of being a "fUlL TiMe ChILd" when they're literally, just, a child
Im 30 now and I only know 2 people who got married and 1 person who has a kid. The person with the kid inherited a lot of money and bought a house. Most of my other friends are struggling financially.
My grandma pays me to put away to put her groceries and also she buys me stuff and she doesn’t even get a thank you for it so the least I can do is put away groceries
When i feel alone, y'all remind me there's a subculture4everyone.. Props and keep up the 🔥 My life as a late bloomer should've been addressed eary. 🤷♂️
It sucks that because of health issues and bad choices ( regarding relationships ) . I've accidentally stepped back into this category. I don't get how weddings cost that much. Just get married in court, have a small party with close friends and relatives. XD
Not remake, just adapt. Remaking something ie. building it from the ground up just brings chaos that has to be adapted many times until it works like it should.
I don't think anyone's wrong in this discussion, yes some people could look at their spending habits and it was tough back in the day, but its also tough for us now and I feel no pressure to marry, as long as I'm achieving my potential. Interesting video.
6:15 that's insane. And also surely it's not the wedding but a wedding party? Like, can't you get married at a courthouse and that's still a wedding. Average cost in my country is definitely less than 10k (mine was around 3k, most of that went into food) and still I've never not attended a fun, memorable wedding party. I guess the extra money goes to making everything look absolutely perfect on social media. None of that is actually needed for a wedding, though, so that's a bit perplexing to me.
If I get married I think we’ll just rent a venue pay for chartering and then invite only closed friends and family. Buy decorations and set up the venue ourselves.
What about the model of Madrigal's family? Houses are expensive. So... I think is quite fine and cooperative if you get one, and everybody live together helping each other.
If my partner and I were more financially stable We would also love to have children. I’m 30 work in the social field and we could not afford to have a family. We could also not afford to buy a house
I would love for my children to live me as young adults. My high school son is very open to that idea because he would have a peaceful, confortable, non drama space. I would charge him rent (I would save it and give it back to him when he finally moves out).
Cam & Mitch are not Millennials or Gen Z LOL. They represent a gayness more often enjoyed by Gen Xers and young Boomers. Also, most adoptions cost money, and are therefore mediated by class as well.
I don’t believe adulthood was ever about what material things you can accumulate, if you marry, or have kids, that’s why it’s being stopped. So we can redefine it what it actually means to be an adult. I think it’s way more spiritual.
Technically, aristocratic families down through time have had these people attached to them. Usually they didn't marry unless the family forced it for an alliance, and, of course, there wasn't an internet where they could provide their own funding. This isn't that new. It's just more functional today than it was a hundred or two hundred years ago.
I wonder where in this video they're going to talk about Gen X? I'm almost halfway through it and they're only comparing boomers and millennials. Gen x is broke too, I wish I could buy a home
Brb gonna move to china or something - the kind of things these 'full time children' are getting paid to do, my siblings and i do for free and we're expected to pay rent on top of that!! 😭😭
Sorry I can’t afford to move out and live in a $2900 apartment (I live in one of the most expensive areas in the country mind you) on a minimum wage job since I’m still in college 💀
Anyone willing to spend $30,000 on a new car doesn't get to complain about how much a wedding could cost. You can spend however much you want on a wedding or getting married. However, there's a lot less wiggle room in buying a new car or having a job that allows you to take 8 vacations a year and keep your job.
I see both sides. On the one hand I have my younger colleagues saying they got on the preorder for the latest iphone, when their phone works fine. Or they have to go out to drinks every Friday or pay for dog grooming. But then they complain that they can't afford petrol or have credit card debt. We've not had a financial crisis since they were kids s they don't know what it is like to not have easy access to cash and credit. But then on the flipside, it is so hard to establish a career and a homeloan is now 15 times the average income
One might be the result of the other. Like, why save your money when everything gets more and more expensive and you won't be able to afford a house anyway?
It’s not a pension. It’s a defined contribution retirement plan. Pensions no longer exist other than in government job, which are defined BENEFIT retirement plans that are 100% funded by the employer. Unless you started working somewhere 20-30 years ago, you aren’t eligible for a pension. Instead, we are responsible for our own retirement via defined CONTRIBUTION plans like 401(k) or 403(b) plans. Words matter, especially when they don’t mean what you think they mean. I’m a Gen Xer who was a part of the beginning of having to depend on defined contribution plans to fund my retirement. I have never had a pension available to me. So yeah…get it right!
You don’t need a party to get married haha, my wedding was 400 dollars in Vegas that’s it. All you need is love and commitment. The rest is just excuses, marriage is not a 30k party, it’s supposed to be a ritual between 2 people, that’s it , the rest is absolutely BS.
As someone who was a bridesmaid for a now ex-friend who is now divorced, and I couldn’t even afford my $300 bridesmaid dress (that included the fitting), I completely agree. If I am supposed to get married at some point and actually feel stable enough to make a life long commitment to someone, I have zero desire to have some elaborate, over the top, wedding.. I’d rather just have a handful of very close people to me, get my dress from a Prom dress store, and maybe just go out to eat as a group and go dancing somewhere. Then save more for a honeymoon and a home. I don’t understand the need to put on an elaborate show for people I don’t even talk to and likely won’t ever see again.
Well dad, this here 15yo stud, is Wyatt Felaccio, he just got himself a jawb at the Ol' bar, mopping, so now he's gon by us a big 🏡ouse! n i know we's 15 but Wyatt's the one.. Daddy but that shotgun away..!!
Hahaha you are just catching up now?? In my country this has been happening since the 80s and 90s. It was a whole phenomenon at the turn of the millennia 😂😂😂
Mom n dad wont live forever and chances are youll drain any inheritance before they pass and then when the property taxes come due, utilities are due, and you still wont work? Youll be living in a tent and wondering why and how you got there.
Then what a failure the Boomer/Gen X generation was as parents and citizens. They allowed the system to become further consolidated under corporate interest. As well often embrace/justifying idiotic policies to this day. The older generation ultimately the failure here. Seems they were too busy worried about economic “success” and fitting the social norms of the time to actually build & train the next generation. That’s a failure of Boomers/Gen X and should be lambast for it as long as they come at us.
I disagree. Being an adult is not a nebulous, ever-changing set of standards. It's caring about your family, but not depending on them for food, shelter, transportation, or money.
The "Can't get married cuz its too expensive" is a crap argument. I understand the soul crushing aspect of not having the wedding you've always fantasized about, but getting married is as simple as applying for a marriage license and getting a witness and a notary to sign it for about $100. Your marriage is not your wedding. So I never got that part. If you wanna be married, you can be married. But the whole buying a home or having kids part?? Yeah... That's a whole other obstacle that Millennials and Gen Z are going to continue to struggle with as long as our economy continues to be this shitty. God help us.
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In Asian cultures this "full time children" is not looked down upon nor even seen that way. Lots of families stay together in adulthood just to help eachother or to stay and grow as a family. Its only western culture that thinks its a weird phenomenon
Yeah. I'm from South America and not considered as "west" tho some people here would be surprised to learn it. Alas it is super normal here for families to stay together because of our culture and because moving out is super expensive. (I've lived with my mom all my life, moving out has never been a issue and she'd have a hard time living alone).
Same thing in many African societies even if they don’t live together we live close to each other in the same towns or villages to support each other economically. It’s usually children who move to college and work because it’s a necessity but after graduating or retiring nearly all return to their homes where they were raised since it’s mostly ancestral land.
From my perspective and experience, that is true. In my asian culture, it is custom that the eldest son takes over the home with his wife and have his parents live with them. With modernizing, it isn't always the eldest son anymore. As long as the aging parents are taken care of.
Ok but in those cultures (and similar ones like Hispanic) adults stay but they still fully contribute to the family. Not like adults in the west doing nothing
I think we can all come to a conclusion its the Caucasian americans who find the concept strange 😂
Living with your family helps both ends gives the younger generation a place to live and the older generation a caretaker nothing new just “new” to western culture and its assumptions
considering the "full time child" trend started in China, i'd say your scorn for western culture is misdirected
@@perfectallycromulent lmao wth you talking about, there are plenty of other cultures with young people living with the older gen, Asian, Middle-Eastern AND European.
Lame
It’s not even that new. Even the US had multiple generations in one household one or two centuries ago.
I lived at home through my 20s but my Dad had a stroke and I helped Mom care for him. So yea on the outside I seem like a bum. the reality was that instead of going out drinking, I was making sure Dad got his daily walk and was eating enough
I'm especially frustrated with people acting like we all went to college for Gender Studies so we can't find work. I went into Civil Engineering and have been job hunting for two years
I got certifications, unpaid internships and even did Urban planning Conferences, and nada
It sounds demeaning the way you set ‘gender studies’ as a bad thing, or your career as a superior one. I do hope u can find a job that you’re happy with!! and that the patience you’ve put to finding a job comes to fruition!
It's hard for everyone. There are engineering students in China raising ducks.
Don't give up looking and find ways to look outside the box and be willing to move for a job.
I remember a young man who just finished welding school and couldn't get a job because he didn't have experience yet no one would give him the opportunity to get experience. He was at the point of willing to work for nothing to get experience for a job. He lived with his grandmother and really wanted to earn a living so he would be taking care of her instead of her taking care of him. Such a sweet man and he eventually got the job he was wanting. One of those rare times you talk to the same stranger more then one time.
I have had more conversations with people who talked about their job and life with me then any other at my local store out shopping.
You are correct! I should not have said that! I personally believe that the social sciences are necessary in the changing world we live in, especially one that lacks media literacy and empathy. I personally don't believe any major is more important than the other, and would actually love to take a minor in social issues if I had the money but veered more into engineering since it was a "safer investment" I should not have been parroting the sentiment I hear from older generations about why younger people don't work. @@YowaneHakuu
I got 2 degress and can't find a job
As a 55 year old gen x-er, I struggled being a single mom back in the 90's and early 2000's. My son was a latchkey kid from the age of 9. I don't blame young people for not wanting to have children now. However much I struggled 20-30 years ago, I believe it's only gotten worse since then.
Its actually gotten better, these kids are just to selfish to do what you did and are aborting their children.
@@Chris-rg6nm what a disgusting, misogynistic lie.
Oh look it's Chris the crusader again. Remember when we were expected to have Guess jeans and blast jackets to be accepted. Now it's just cell phones and trips to Europe. What has changed is the expectation for expensive things. Take your 15 bucks and share a crusty old roach infested apartment with your friends until it gets better. That's how we rolled. It wasn't diamonds and pearls for us. And abortions have nothing to do with any of this, so go elsewhere social Christian justice warrior.
@@Chris-rg6nm no
45y/o Gen X, and couldn't agree more. I raised myself, as the product of a boomer teen pregnancy. My mom is garbage. My father was garbage. All the "adults," (mostly boomers) I grew up around were horrible people with zero empathy. My life has been a nightmare. I'm glad younger people are doing their best to not put children through what I/we went through.
I love it when the boomer generation talks down about youths, as though we had elders watching out for our well-being like their depression-era parents did for them. They shimmied up the ladder and destroyed it right after them, yet we’re the problem because we can’t afford $1 million
+ dollars 2 bed 2 bath rundown houses on the lowest legal wage they’ll give us. It’s why “okay boomer ✌️ “ became such a hot phrase to use: there’s no arguing with the lead-poisoned among us.
Oh they pulled that ladder right up behind them…
This! I'm Gen X, and we literally raised ourselves. Boomers really screwed us up, and every generation after. I don't know how anyone in my generation survived. We get talked about like we're all doing great, and I'm sure there were a few people in my generation that did okay, but most of the kids I knew were smoking and drinking at 11y/o, and working minimum wage most of their lives. I'm disabled, have a van-home, and my husband and I are trying to build a school bus home so we have more room.
I honestly don't know where these a-holes are getting their data from, but I know plenty of Gen X, and no one has asked us a damn thing. Most of the time we don't exist, and when we do the data lies.
@@tinkergnomad oh trust me, you’re preaching to the choir. I’m of the very latest of Millenials (Oct ‘96) and was raised by one of those feral-raised Gen X’ers. We’re at least in agreement that her boomer mom (Im embarrassed to call her grandma) screwed all future generations of our family after because she was too busy smoking, drinking, partying and slutting it up while her kids were left to their own devices. Ngl she’s kinda the quintessential boomer to me: did nothing but live in decadent self-serving her whole life yet expects everyone else to wait on them bc oLd
Honestly, as someone in gen Z, I think the boomer bashing is overrated. Did you have a choice as to when you were born? Neither did they. It's not their fault they were able to reep the riches of American empire when it was at its height.
@ahlishaholloway233
It’s not about hitting the birth year jackpot it’s about shaming us for not. They lack perspective a lot of them. That’s the issue.
I am happy to see us questioning the individuation of the market. Previous generations got good jobs with good pay and health benefits and housing market- moving out and “growing up” is no longer affordable.
Can we talk about the millennials that live with their parents because their parents cannot afford to live on their own
That is my current situation and I'm 36. It's crazy how many boomers moved through their lives with me no more financial literacy than a fifth grader
@@ingridgallagher1029You don't need financial literacy when your nation's currency is tied to gold and your nation controls the world's manufacturing base.
Yes
I think its easy to see kids living with their parents as a good thing, but we forget that its not that easy. Some parents want their kids to stay kids and will still control them, make them do crazy chores and treat them like a child. I remember when I moved back home for 1 month, it was rough. After work I just wanted to destress but couldn't. Cook lunch for work the next day and having my dad eat the food i made then saying its not nice to cook just for me. Having to still clean up after parents. A bunch of stuff is broken in the house and when you try to fix it, they dont want to fix it that way they want you to leave it as is. My point being kids staying with parents because they want to is unlikely, they are forced to. Sure there is a benefit of not paying rent and electric, but at what cost to your soul. The plan was for me to live there for a few months i only lasted 1 month. Seeing genz stuck at home i cant help but feel bad
I know this experience all too well, but imagine being encouraged not to pay rent elsewhere and still being treated like a mindless child.
It can and will drain your soul if you allow it.
Yep
@@Dannniellleee 🤮
I remember when I moved in with my parents after college for a year My mother said "When I was YOUR AGE I didn't TAKE MONEY from MY MOTHER. Because I had RESPECT FOR HER"
You are right it does kill your soul. I'm very lucky that I was able to move out.
Im so relieved to see Im not the only one forced to stay with their parent! Im part Mexican and that side of my family is sexist af. I was raised to take care of men, mainly my father, since I could walk! One of my first memories is being called into the living room to change the channel on the tv but had no idea which button to press and he got mad at me bc i couldnt do it. Ffwd to today and now he is actually disabled and I have no choice but to take care of him or he will die! Not bc he is deathly ill but be he REFUSES to take care of himself. He is emotionally abusive, treats me like a servant and as it turns out I AM Autistic and the one that needed extra help all along, not him 😣 Ill be stuck here until he dies and I have no life of my own since I hurt my back and also became disabled. I do have a sibling who could theoretically help but he is male and never had to do anything for anyone ever, so ofc he lives on the other side if the planet and visits maybe once a year. 😓 fml
Edit: I never get paid. Im lucky he buys me and my cat food.
Where did they come up with that living at home with family means youre a full time child thats a very big misconception and not all who live at home benefit
Love how the pope is calling us selfish without considering that some of us would love to have another child but can’t afford it since we both have to work and day care costs so much. Maybe the pope should be calling the government selfish for not helping out with that.
Exactly! We want the same things that earlier generations had, but our circumstances forced us to modify how we do things
And a rich, childfree men like a pope saying those things is flat out hillarious. Having kids is so glorious he made a vote no never have none 🤡 🤡 🤡 🤡 🤡...
Amen 🙌🏼
Seriously... he is out of touch.
People still listen to what the Pope says? Why?
This sadly is also the reason many young adults end up staying in their Abusive Situations- bc their parents are terrible people but life rn is way too expensive to live on one’s own :-(
"If you're looking around for an entry-level job...entry-level jobs require 5 years of experience." I'm 40 years old (an old millennial) and I've been saying that since 2017." Entry-level is now 3-5 years of experience meaning people with mid-level skills have to apply to jobs with entry-level salary. Mid-level is now 7-10 which used to be closer to senior level, again putting the worker at a lower salary. By the way, all these jobs are probably contract except for the senior position.
I'm 38 and I've been saying that since 2008, I get you.
If I were to eat 4 slices of avocado toast every single morning it would cost less than 700AUD a year and amount to less than $2 per breakfast. I guess I should stop eating breakfast altogether so I can put those CRUCIAL 700 bucks towards raising a family and getting a mortgage 🤡
That guy is actually from a wealthy family and got thousands of dollars from his grandfather to start a company. He doesn’t know 💩 about life of regular people. He just like to preach to feel important
im gen z and i live w/ my parents 🤷🏽♀️ i have a good job the housing market just sucks
In Spanish and Italian families, the children stay with their families til they can get married and move out. Maybe that idea isn't so dumb after all. I stayed with my family til they died and then inherited the house mortaguage free but Im without kids or a partner so I just have to worry about paying my own bills. Am I seen as an adult? Nope. Do I want to be? Also nope. Because of my mental health, I was never seen as an adult regardless of what age I was and frankly, I don't care anymore. Those old tired tropes of life goals need a serious wake up call, only the rich and wealthy can AFFORD to choose that game plan anymore.
@@starscreamthecruel8026 That's true. Honestly people should stop trying to check boxes and concentrate on living a life that's functional and fulfilling for THEM, not other people or "common sense" (which is still subjective).
As I grow older I'm learning how more and more important the friendships that you build with people not just family are to life. I love that people are learning that you don't need to be in a relationship to feel love, friendship and part of a community.
I never had an interest in being an adult, everything about it sounds awful and nothing about it appeals to me. I’m a 35 year old teenager on the inside.
Legit same. 🤟🏾😅
It doesn't sound appealing but it helps you survive.
@@lexa2310 nah, am 21 but after finishing college i strive to be like him
Glad to see I'm not the only one.
Me neither cause I wouldn’t dream of abandoning my parents nor my childhood stuff!
One thing not mentioned in the video is the average life expectancy has been increasing steadily, whereas number of dwellings built is not keeping up, leading to higher real estate. On top of that, real wages has not been keeping up with the productivity increase since the 70s, where most of the profit goes to top management and shareholders. Inequality gets worse, middle class eliminated, what do you expect to happen?
I would add that the new housing that is going up is "luxury" apartments and developments. Construction companies will build $2,000 per month studio apartments because they think they will be more profitable. Who the hell has that kind of money?
Not having children and not getting married are only rational strategies to deal with not being able to afford a home and wanting to be able to finance one’s children education. Anything else is irresponsible.
The people saying that not having children is selfish never thought about giving their children a stable home, be that because they didn't have to struggle to gain a stable home or because they never even considered that sometimes putting a new life on this planet when you are not financially, socially or emotionally secure is just irresponsible and will lead to damage that the child has to endure.
Or maybe you just don't want it😊
@@jadacampbell9331 simple and amazing.
I would revolt against the wedding industry. Oh, I did. I got married on the beach. My husband brought his best friend, I brought my best friend. I wore a simple white dress, brought flowers from the supermarket, wrapped a ribbon around it. It was simple, beautiful, and inexpensive. We were very happy. There was no stress.
Did you still have to hire a minister though to make it legal?
I just went to city hall and was married by a judge by ourselves 😂
@@TheShumoby Okay cool. We have registry offices in the UK for that too. I didnt know how it worked in the USA. Glad you found a way that worked.
We had a simple wedding in court followed by catered food at a hotel for under 30 guests
A real revolt would be not getting married
I’ve never been very close to my parents, my siblings and me were brought up very independent. I thought that it is good for me, until I became a stay at home mom. The isolation made me think about this topic so much. Seeing my grandma, my mum and me with my daughter makes me think about how we all would benefit from living together. A very usual story- my grandma is sick, my mom is taking care of her, and my mom is tired, and I am alone a lot with my daughter. If we would live together, the tasks would mix up. They would get a lively energy from the toddler, I could cook and take care of them, sometimes they could cook for me, and everyone helps everyone and not get burned out. If you can live like that in a loving family with everyone respecting the other members’ boundaries, I think you are very lucky!
When my late mother was alive, she never minded a bit about her adult disabled daughter staying home nad helping her as much as she needed her to. With this happening, its not shameful, society has to adapt as everyone else is, there is no straight line in a persons life with things. its very different now than in my late mothers time.
I get why adoption is so popular.
I'm never gonna give birth myself either. Pregnancy is just a whole package of nope for me. It's extremely painful, really bad for your health, takes from your pension and it has assholes calling women an unreliable workforce.
Plus with adoption a child gets the chance to grow up in a stable home that they otherwise would have been denied.
This is the way. Adoption helps someone who was denied what should have been guaranteed, but the world just isn't fair or kind. I won't blame anyone for wanting biological children, but claiming any sort of superiority of blood children over adopted is where I cross the line.
so you're saying, that average people don't have money to mature anymore... what a wonderful world to live in
Can I just say that, then logically maybe weddings should be put off/saved for, as anniversary gifts? Like after the couple got their marriage license, 5-10 years later they can make their first wedding a vow renewal ceremony instead,
That last sentence: Friendship, trust and working together. 😂 Yeah right, people don't even speak to each other anymore.
im a gen xer . i live with my brother in property that we inherited from my mom passing at an early age but before she did i cohabited with her and we had the support of each other financally and physicall that continues with my brother and were very happy .i never had kids and his are grown up so it fits so well in our mid fourties to share living expenses and have another person there for security and company .
I would love to have a good paying job, move out, and have kids - but each is impossible for me. Im 25, living at home and after being denied by bots reading my resume and after interviewing multiple times for entry level jobs im qualified for, I have a degree, and then being told I don't have enough experience - im getting my masters degree, I already have insurmountable debt from undergrad, so fortunately was only able to get my masters due to an amazing scholarship program. If I can't find a good paying job after the stress of getting a masters tho... then idk what to even do. How do I live in this world?
I was born 80. Me and my best friend have a five year plan to buy a house together. We're soooo excited, have a pinterest board for it while we're saving and advancing in education/job.
It's true. People my age would be having "geriatric pregnancies" -- and only if they hurry! -- yet I still don't quite feel financially ready to have a child. It's finally something that seems like it could be realistic IN A FEW MORE YEARS. At this rate it seems like no one will be having and raising their own biological kids -- they'll be paying younger people to have them or adopting.
we spent a total of $1800 on our wedding, renting a restored 1920s cabin at a county owned park that I took my husband to on our first camping trip. I invited all my family. My dress was literally from Amazon. My sister's friend used her Polaroid to take pictures of guests at the door as a gift to us, and those pictures were our wedding favors. My sister is a pastry chef and baked our cake, and my uncle loves woodworking and made our cake stand and MANY decorations. My aunt officiated as her gift to us. I was so blessed to be surrounded by people who wanted to make my night magical and it really was. When I went to my cousin's $20,000 wedding, I saw how stressed it made her. Her in-laws were very traditional and basically EXPECTED a grand wedding with all the bells and whistles... they kept showing her social media posts of everyone else's "perfect" weddings. And they only paid for $5k of it. The societal pressure that our generation feels to have that "perfect" wedding is so real and I wish couples didn't have to deal with it.
Scene from a show in 2023:
"Why don't you move back in with your mom?"
"I can't, she moved back in with her mom."
I am one of the bumerang millenials (someone who moved back after graduating from college and not being able to find a sustainable job). After having to leave the dorms, it wasn't financially clever to get an apartement in a super expensive city. But it also wasn't clever to get an apartement in my home town when I was applying country-wide and when most of the jobs require me to start "immediately".
The way the job market works is that they take forever to reply to your application and then expect you to be able to start the job within 2 weeks of them offering it to you. That just isn't feasible unless you're only job hunting in the city you live in.
So I moved back, thinking it will just be a couple of month. Got a callcenter job in home office as a temporary solution. Now it's 2,5 years later and I am still struggling to find an appropriate job for my degree.
Additionally, I got burned out from the callcenter job and now that they threw me out, I get snarky comments about being comfortable living alone on the cost of my parents. Noone cares that I pay them rent and that I have quite a bit of money savings.
the living with parents bit is not a trend. intergenerational living was the norm across the world for uh...most of human history. we had a growth of individualism in the mid-20th century (and a large growth of the middle class and the explosion of suburbia - which is fuelled by people moving out and having nuclear families) and now people act like that's the default setting
Curious why pensions are being referred to as an option that young people are declining as opposed to a bygone avenue for retirement. Pensions don’t exist unless you work for the government in some capacity. Period
... people know how expensive adopting is though, right?
Yes. The thought comes from the idea that there's already children who need our help - and that most women aren't down to play anybody's incubator ever again.
If you have the financial security to adopt you should also have the financial security to give that child a good life, right?
Oh and better chances of advancing your career if you don't require maternity-leave, giving you even more financial security to make sure you and your kid live a comfortable life.
I mean even to adopt you need stable job and income
Be careful blindly promoting “adult adopting”. This can be slippery slope with financial power struggles. Case in point the TLC show that ended up getting pulled. A man and his wife adopted a young pregnant mother with little to no opportunities. He had a history of being sexual with a past adopted adult. Not saying this happens in all cases, but the “Shrill” example is the BEST case scenario. Educate financially vulnerable adults on the predators taking advantage of this before they agree to be adopted is all I’m saying.
The nuclear family and the separation of generations is a modern western trend. Starting from the early 20th Century it became a social aspiration and norm after world war 2. This move greatly benefited mass consumerism and mass productivity of the new economic model of disposable income and disposable goods. The real reason people are freaked about full time children, is if families live in one household who is fighting for housing. One house hold will typically only require one washing machine, fridge, cooker etc.
A child is looked after, an adult who contributes to the house hold through financial or through service actions such as cleaning, gardening, and shopping is not a child. Considering the top heavy burden of aging boomers it should be thought of as a service to care for ones parents but then how will the industrial care complex make any money?
Its better not to have a kid if you can't feed it, give it fresh air, and not emotionally available . You ll not be raising a kid but a mess. Peace ✌
Hey as long as the alternative is homelessness which is not ideal and extremely embarrassing (let's not kid ourselves, it is) then yeah, living with the parents or your buddies or your sugar daddy and affording life that way is the next best thing.
I don't get the 18 and out rule.
Humans are meant to live in groups, not rotting away alone.
What an amazing video full of empathy and hope. Well done, as usual!
I understand staying with your parents as long as you help out. When I was much younger and between jobs while living with my Mom, I kept the house spotless, did the shopping, and most of the cooking.
Personally I'd like to adopt too, once I have those 4 important things - stable home, stable work environment, financial stability that can support 2 people adequately and a stable supportnetwork.
If that's not in the cards then... well, then it's not like the world is going to end. Having a child is not something that I need to strike off some bucket list no matter what. It's a commitment, not a commodity. And I'd rather not mess my kid up by rushing into it just to get it done.
Some Boomers “hire” their adult children to be live-in caretakers as they age. Kinda solves two problems at once.
Not exactly I care for my elders but I am not a trained nurse. I do my best but dementia and Alzheimer’s symptom make the situation kinda dangerous.
I would care for someone else's parents but not my own. I would be too tempted to treat them the way they've treated me, hahah.
@@rftt6y7trUnfortunately where I am from there are just not enough care homes and nurses to take care of the rising elderly population.
The reasons for that being the abismal pay you get, the work being looked down upon, as well as the fear of having to work with dangerous patients (even if it is not professional to admit it). So where I'm from my generation won't have any choice but to take care of their parents with occasional professional help.
@@keenoled Was just thinking of this. If the parents were toxic narcissists, why would their children spend their adulthood taking care of those asshole parents in their old age? It would be better to get the hell away from the asshole parents.
So, underpaying TF outta someone so you can overwork them in a job they're not qualified for instead of hiring a professional? Yep. That sounds like a boomer thing to do.
Life is harder than it’s ever been. Thanks a lot Boomers
I honestly think the depression-era generations had it worse, but I get where you're coming from.
Wow, what an odd statement.
@@rigelb9025 it’s the truth
@@lexa2310 and at least people in the depression could buy houses
My boomer parent prepared me very well as an adult.
Why can't life these days be more easy to handle for older and younger people alike instead of letting society put in specific boxes of how we're meant to live and "serve them" based on age-groups, people are now even struggling to just meet their basic meets, today's suffocating society just wants us to remember we're just mindless wage-slaves to keep the billionares on top to them not individuals with our own lives and aspirations.
i agree that at some point there are particularities of gen y/z way of being and social/ economical context. but i also feel that the way society is being led so far, i see A LOT of boomers and gen x behaving in an infantilized way, but that is covered or disguised by these "important marks" such as a home, a family, and a job. but are the previous generations more mature? i don't really think so. women used to be financially dependent not so long ago, and men never really learned how to take care of themselves or taking responsability for their actions.
I would just like to point out, Gen Z is 11-26 years old. OF COURSE more than 54% of them live at home, that generation is MOSTLY CHILDREN. LITERAL CHILDREN. How are you gonna accuse someone of being a "fUlL TiMe ChILd" when they're literally, just, a child
I love how you show a headline that talks about Gen X and Gen Z, and conveniently leave out Gen X. We're literally fucking invisible.
They don't pay enough
Im 30 now and I only know 2 people who got married and 1 person who has a kid. The person with the kid inherited a lot of money and bought a house. Most of my other friends are struggling financially.
Pick your parents carefully.
My grandma pays me to put away to put her groceries and also she buys me stuff and she doesn’t even get a thank you for it so the least I can do is put away groceries
Adopting is expensive tho so that doesn't make sense ..
When i feel alone, y'all remind me there's a subculture4everyone..
Props and keep up the 🔥
My life as a late bloomer should've been addressed eary. 🤷♂️
The world changes, it’s time for us to slow down and think “what comes next?”
Jup. When the world moves too fast then the people have to forcefully slow it down a little, so that we don't accidentally cause irreparable damage.
I’m surprised this needs to be said…but Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz aren’t boomers (minute 6:47)
It sucks that because of health issues and bad choices ( regarding relationships ) . I've accidentally stepped back into this category. I don't get how weddings cost that much. Just get married in court, have a small party with close friends and relatives. XD
Funny. I'm supposed to BE an adult. But listening to the checkpoints she listed made me feel like a kid!
"We have to remake society if we have any hope of surviving."
Да, товарищ!
Not remake, just adapt. Remaking something ie. building it from the ground up just brings chaos that has to be adapted many times until it works like it should.
I don't think anyone's wrong in this discussion, yes some people could look at their spending habits and it was tough back in the day, but its also tough for us now and I feel no pressure to marry, as long as I'm achieving my potential. Interesting video.
Lol I love the pope saying it's selfish to not have children.....I can't think of anything more selfish at this point in our world to HAVE children
6:15 that's insane. And also surely it's not the wedding but a wedding party? Like, can't you get married at a courthouse and that's still a wedding. Average cost in my country is definitely less than 10k (mine was around 3k, most of that went into food) and still I've never not attended a fun, memorable wedding party. I guess the extra money goes to making everything look absolutely perfect on social media. None of that is actually needed for a wedding, though, so that's a bit perplexing to me.
If I get married I think we’ll just rent a venue pay for chartering and then invite only closed friends and family. Buy decorations and set up the venue ourselves.
I simply do not dream of labor
People who age without growing up become more and more despairing and depressed. When you are fifty and a child, you are miserable.
You don't see the 1 percent dealing with this. They make sure their kids can get good jobs and move out and start families.
What about the model of Madrigal's family? Houses are expensive. So... I think is quite fine and cooperative if you get one, and everybody live together helping each other.
If my partner and I were more financially stable We would also love to have children. I’m 30 work in the social field and we could not afford to have a family. We could also not afford to buy a house
I would love for my children to live me as young adults. My high school son is very open to that idea because he would have a peaceful, confortable, non drama space. I would charge him rent (I would save it and give it back to him when he finally moves out).
Cam & Mitch are not Millennials or Gen Z LOL. They represent a gayness more often enjoyed by Gen Xers and young Boomers. Also, most adoptions cost money, and are therefore mediated by class as well.
I don’t believe adulthood was ever about what material things you can accumulate, if you marry, or have kids, that’s why it’s being stopped. So we can redefine it what it actually means to be an adult. I think it’s way more spiritual.
Jesus christ do not spend 29k on a wedding. I did mine for 3k or just go to the court house.
1:32 Gen X gets ignored yet again. Don't worry, I'm not angry because I don't even care about anything.
IM GETTING CAUGHT IN THIS AND ITS AWFUL! RENT NEEDS TO GET FIXED QUICK
Technically, aristocratic families down through time have had these people attached to them. Usually they didn't marry unless the family forced it for an alliance, and, of course, there wasn't an internet where they could provide their own funding. This isn't that new. It's just more functional today than it was a hundred or two hundred years ago.
I wonder where in this video they're going to talk about Gen X? I'm almost halfway through it and they're only comparing boomers and millennials. Gen x is broke too, I wish I could buy a home
Gen X is busy funding the retirement of Boomers, the young adult frivolity of Millennials, and the education of Gen Zers.
This is what has been going on Greece for years before this video
6:15. $29,000 for a degree??? That was one year at my college 😬
It's comforting to know that I am a part of trend 😂
Am really hoping they'll cover the troupe of the Parentified Child on screen, when compared to what it's like for people in real life,
Brb gonna move to china or something - the kind of things these 'full time children' are getting paid to do, my siblings and i do for free and we're expected to pay rent on top of that!! 😭😭
Sorry I can’t afford to move out and live in a $2900 apartment (I live in one of the most expensive areas in the country mind you) on a minimum wage job since I’m still in college 💀
Hey I want to do that fake daughter thing. Is there an app?
Anyone willing to spend $30,000 on a new car doesn't get to complain about how much a wedding could cost. You can spend however much you want on a wedding or getting married. However, there's a lot less wiggle room in buying a new car or having a job that allows you to take 8 vacations a year and keep your job.
I see both sides. On the one hand I have my younger colleagues saying they got on the preorder for the latest iphone, when their phone works fine. Or they have to go out to drinks every Friday or pay for dog grooming. But then they complain that they can't afford petrol or have credit card debt. We've not had a financial crisis since they were kids s they don't know what it is like to not have easy access to cash and credit. But then on the flipside, it is so hard to establish a career and a homeloan is now 15 times the average income
One might be the result of the other. Like, why save your money when everything gets more and more expensive and you won't be able to afford a house anyway?
@@lexa2310it’s never fun or easy to save. It never was.
It’s not a pension. It’s a defined contribution retirement plan.
Pensions no longer exist other than in government job, which are defined BENEFIT retirement plans that are 100% funded by the employer.
Unless you started working somewhere 20-30 years ago, you aren’t eligible for a pension. Instead, we are responsible for our own retirement via defined CONTRIBUTION plans like 401(k) or 403(b) plans.
Words matter, especially when they don’t mean what you think they mean.
I’m a Gen Xer who was a part of the beginning of having to depend on defined contribution plans to fund my retirement. I have never had a pension available to me.
So yeah…get it right!
Uhhh excuse me but Brennan and Dale were at the "forefront" of this movement...not some gal from "Shrill".
I never understood why living with your parents is so looked down on. It has always been the norm with Asian cultures.
Hail this culture! Amen to not abandoning your parents when they loved you!
You don’t need a party to get married haha, my wedding was 400 dollars in Vegas that’s it. All you need is love and commitment. The rest is just excuses, marriage is not a 30k party, it’s supposed to be a ritual between 2 people, that’s it , the rest is absolutely BS.
As someone who was a bridesmaid for a now ex-friend who is now divorced, and I couldn’t even afford my $300 bridesmaid dress (that included the fitting), I completely agree. If I am supposed to get married at some point and actually feel stable enough to make a life long commitment to someone, I have zero desire to have some elaborate, over the top, wedding.. I’d rather just have a handful of very close people to me, get my dress from a Prom dress store, and maybe just go out to eat as a group and go dancing somewhere. Then save more for a honeymoon and a home. I don’t understand the need to put on an elaborate show for people I don’t even talk to and likely won’t ever see again.
Gen X: Hey! Who are we, chopped liver?
Couldn’t have said it better😊
Great video.
after watching all I can say is thank you for leaving Gen X out of this one
Well dad, this here 15yo stud, is Wyatt Felaccio, he just got himself a jawb at the Ol' bar, mopping, so now he's gon by us a big 🏡ouse! n i know we's 15 but Wyatt's the one.. Daddy but that shotgun away..!!
Hahaha you are just catching up now?? In my country this has been happening since the 80s and 90s. It was a whole phenomenon at the turn of the millennia 😂😂😂
Mom n dad wont live forever and chances are youll drain any inheritance before they pass and then when the property taxes come due, utilities are due, and you still wont work? Youll be living in a tent and wondering why and how you got there.
Then what a failure the Boomer/Gen X generation was as parents and citizens. They allowed the system to become further consolidated under corporate interest.
As well often embrace/justifying idiotic policies to this day. The older generation ultimately the failure here.
Seems they were too busy worried about economic “success” and fitting the social norms of the time to actually build & train the next generation.
That’s a failure of Boomers/Gen X and should be lambast for it as long as they come at us.
I dying live at home caring for your family, you don’t need more than one home.
What's the website they show at 0:16?
I disagree. Being an adult is not a nebulous, ever-changing set of standards. It's caring about your family, but not depending on them for food, shelter, transportation, or money.
The "Can't get married cuz its too expensive" is a crap argument. I understand the soul crushing aspect of not having the wedding you've always fantasized about, but getting married is as simple as applying for a marriage license and getting a witness and a notary to sign it for about $100. Your marriage is not your wedding. So I never got that part. If you wanna be married, you can be married. But the whole buying a home or having kids part?? Yeah... That's a whole other obstacle that Millennials and Gen Z are going to continue to struggle with as long as our economy continues to be this shitty. God help us.