Rain Man (1988) ✦ Reaction & Review ✦ Ray is such a precious person...
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ค. 2024
- This is a movie reaction to my first time watching Rain Man, released in 1988 and directed by Barry Levinson. Can Charlie stop being a bully for literally five minutes? Ray does not deserve that treatment and behaviour from him! We need to protect this man. Tom Cruise and Dustin Hoffman were fantastic in this film and I had a great time watching this, especially knowing how impactful this film was towards people's understanding of autism. Make sure to stick around to the end of this video for my full thoughts and review and thank you so much for watching!
🎬 FULL-LENGTH WATCHALONG: kaiielle.com/rainman or purchase it directly here: / 8920
✦ You must bring your own copy of the film to watch along with me.
🍿 MORE REACTION VIDEOS:
✦ You can find them through my website using the Menu at the top: kaiielle.com
✦ You can also sort through my TH-cam playlists: / kaiielle
🎥 SUGGEST MOVIES & TV SERIES:
✦ forms.gle/XZVvZhfhwFzsDpRU9
🎮 MY GAMING CHANNEL: / @kaleplays
🗨 JOIN THE KAIIELLE'S CREW DISCORD SERVER:
✦ / discord
📢 MY INFO, FAQ, SOCIALS & MORE:
✦ kaiielle.com/links
💰 PATREON: / kaiielle - NOW WITH A FREE TRIAL
My base tier grants you access to my full-length watchalongs, early access to my edits, my monthly newsletter, and more. With the higher tiers, you get access to all of my exclusive watchalong reactions to a variety of TV series. Interested in seeing some of those for free? Click here: kaiielle.com/free
🎉 Thank you to my TOP Patreon supporters at this time of this video:
Absher, Aladorian, Alex V, Alex W, Amber Anne S, Andrew S, Bacca, Ben R, Braden M, BratPfanneTV, Breezy, Bruce C, Caroline P, Carter T, Chandler C, Dale S, Dan H, Danny G, Divine, DuckBoatJesus, Dylan S, Elliot K, Erik C, Etagz 3, Fanny, Franz G, GoodCanadianFamilyMan, Guiguioh, Isaac, Jake H, Jam, James, Jemrink, Jesper K, Jessica, John B, Johnny M, Jon J, juliachristine, Justin S, Kelvar J, Kerelon, Kevin A, Khan Battle, Kieran H, Kyle N, Liam, LittleMustardseed, Luth A, M.C. Hale, Maik J, Marc-Oliver_2000, Matt P, Matthew P, Mayra G, Meli, Michael S, Michal A, Miff, Mike B, Mike Y, MoistGoist, MommaKL, Monster, Mr B, MrCycoBoy, MrGreatglade, No One, O'Raine F, Owen H, Owen R, Pacmule, Perry C, Quix, Richie O, RonanRaven, Rune, SaphyLee, Sara M, Sean H, Sebastian B, Spencer D, TheYed_, Volume, William C, Yoshi1990
⏰ TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 - Hello & Catch-Up
03:04 - Pre-Movie Thoughts
04:59 - Film Reaction
42:45 - Thoughts & Review
🎶 MUSIC PROVIDED BY EPIDEMIC SOUND:
✦ Wiseman by Smartface: epidemicsound.com/track/KOgGI...
🌌 COPYRIGHT DISCLAIMER:
Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statutes that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use. NO COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT INTENDED. All rights belong to their respective owners.
#RainMan #MovieReaction #FirstTimeWatching - บันเทิง
![ตีสิบเดย์ [FULL] | ครอบครัวสะท้านทุ่ง "นางบี & อ้ายสติ๊ก"](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/A1rhYcxxNtA/mqdefault.jpg)
Thanks for tuning in to check out my reaction to Rain Man! Let me know what you think of the film in the comments. I'm super excited for the movies coming up next on the channel. We have Batman (1989), Man of Steel (2013) and Galaxy Quest (1999). Polls are put out weekly over on Patreon: patreon.com/kaiielle and you can suggest movies here: forms.gle/CZE199esAsF8RLzi9 💛
Make sure to follow my Twitter: twitter.com/kaiielle and Instagram: instagram.com/kaiielle for daily thoughts, ramblings, and shares. And come hang out on Twitch some time for my gaming streams! twitch.tv/kaiielle
Y'all are amazing and thank you for everything. ✦ KL
I love your reaction.
You ever hear the phrase "euphemism treadmill"? It's used to describe society's constant changing "approved and acceptable" words.
When we were in middle school, we were told not to use the R word anymore. Being little sht kids, we started calling each other Downys which is way way worse imo. Funnily enough, the faculty was totally fine with us using Downy.
there is foreshadowing when charlie is going on about inheriting rosebushes
“i got rosebushes, i definitely got rosebushes, i definitely got rosebushes, i mean those are rosebushes.”
raymond has the same kind of verbal idiosyncrasies
To me, the Susanna & Ray elevator scene is wholesome because she wants him to experience his "date". The kiss being just an experience she thought he may never get a chance to experience ever again, so she kissed him. In my opinion it was a tender moment showing just how large of a range Raymond had to his autism.
Also, I was a late teen when this came out, and it was my first exposure to autism. I had never heard the word autism or autistic prior. Autism, before this movie, was really kept pretty well away from common public knowledge, and this movie really shed a huge light on it, even if that light at first wasn't an accurate light. I'm not sure we would be as aware of autism today had this movie not come out nearly 35 years ago.
Just my opinion.
Thanks for sharing! I can definitely see how the scene was probably intended to be portrayed that way.
Yes, this movie was really great for that! It's always good to spread awareness about things previously kept hush-hush.
I'm the same age & wanted to give the same take on the same two scenes - thanks for saving me some typing!
So if a man did that to a woman with the same mental issues that Raymond had that would be wholesome to you? I don’t buy it, the elevator scene is a twisted scene whether it’s done by a man or woman.
I'm more or less of the same mind about the elevator scene. She thinks she's doing a good thing by stepping in as the "date" so that he wouldn't be disappointed. As for Charlie and the blackjack winnings I remember raising that objection about using Ray when I first saw this movie years ago with my mother and she offered that he wouldn't have needed the $75k if the trip hadn't been so long. I don't entirely agree there but I can see that rationale on the part of the viewer.
@@thereisnopandemic there is an actual difference if it was a man kissing a woman or a woman kissing a man though. with men a kiss is almost always sexual, with a woman a kiss can be meaning many different things. the only time you'd be almost certain it wasn't sexual for a man to kiss a woman would be if the guy is a homosexual. that scene in the elevator is very sweet, I can't see it as her taking advantage of him because she didn't kiss him because she wanted it. If there had even been a hint of she kissed him b/c she was attracted to him or b/c she wanted to hurt Charlie that would be a case where i'd say it's sick and abusive.
I know Hoffman won the Academy Award for this one, deservedly so. But in all honestly Tom Cruise acted his ass off and held his own against a much more experienced older actor. As he did in A Few Good Men (vs Jack) and The Color of Money (vs Newman). With him doing all these action movies lately people forget that he has been one of the best actors in Hollywood for almost 40 years.
Yeah, I think Tom did a great job at playing Charlie! His chemistry with Dustin was great.
Tom Cruise is kind of easy to dismiss as an 80s heartthrob in some popular but kind of cheesey movies but he really is a great actor. He's extremely dedicated to his roles and does most of his own stunts.
Don’t forget about his villainous and intimidating performance in Collateral, going up against Jamie Foxx, who gave a great performance in that film as well.
I think you have to look at Susanna's intent above anything else. I believe in her mind she was trying to safely help Raymond learn about what he could expect from someone like Iris. She behaved exactly as someone would with that intent. She didn't pursue Raymond for anything beyond that moment because she never intended for it to be anything beyond that moment. This is why I can't find offense in the elevator scene. Whatever other reasoning we apply to the scene has to compete with that.
That's a very fair perspective. Thank you!
I agree. I thought it was a sweet moment. Susanna was Italian and it was in her character. Europeans don't have the hang ups that we do when it comes to showing affection like that.
@@thegorn68 neither do the ancient Greeks and Romans and those culture were perverse, read up on the Roman Emperor Tiberius and his boys he called Minnows, Italian culture come from that, and they are influenced by their past. I find Susanna actions to be disgusting, just like if a grown man did the same thing.
@@thereisnopandemic just based off your name i know i can ignore any opinions you might give lmao lmao
What I find interesting is the similarities of Charlie and Raymond. Charlie had outbursts, Charlie was intelligent, Charlie didn't let others get to close. They both had a similar love for the car. Both were not easily distracted in their focus.
And listen to Charlie with the lawyer at the beginning, saying he "definitely got the rose bushes" - I imagine that wasn't by accident that a little of Raymond came out in him in that scene!
@@jayge17 Think about their father, who also had difficulty relating to other people on a personal level.
One wonders if Charlie can understand his father's sacrifice in putting Raymond in a hospital/home in order to keep Charlie safe. He had to put one son out of his home, to protect his other son.
My son is autistic and he acts a lot like Ray but he tends to scream a lot because he loves the feeling of it as well as running with his head tilted to the side and we call it filling his cup cause he likes the feeling and just loves loud things in general thank you for seeing this film we need more films like this not so filtered cause most people don’t know or understand how to deal with an autistic child or adult for that matter
I’ve heard that at the time this was Dustin Hoffman’s hardest role. He really worked hard to make his role work .
Hans zimmers debut Hollywood score and first Oscar nomination was for this
Tom Cruise doesn't get nearly enough credit for this performance......wonderful reaction, KL........thanks for sharing...........
my favorite part is when Rayman said there is suppose to be 8 fish sticks so Charlie takes his ruler and cuts the 4 in half... hehe
Being mainstreamed was vital to my son's development. He was extremely imitative and needed to hear kids with normal speech to help develop his own. All the educational community, who spent any time with him agreed. If they didn't know him I simply brought him with me to meet them. Never have I seen adults melt into butter so quickly. He was adorable.
Suddenly, when they were worried about his tantrums, they thought they could find a minder for him and set up a quiet room to mellow him down. So, speech, life skills and mainstream classes. I learned he was his own best advocate.
That's really lovely to hear!
Dustin Hoffman's "Tootsie" is also really, really good
People notice Raymond's penchant for using the word "DEFINATELY" to emphasize a point. When the film was released virtually everyone imitated this. I have yet, to see a reactor mention Charlie's use of the word in exactly the same manner and with exactly the same inflection, at the beginning of the film. The script writer connected the brothers through a phrase that was likely used frequently by their father.
Didn't notice that, but super cool!
I literally got chills after younasked if raymond knows whether charlie is his brother and then the scene in the bathroom shows that he knows a lot. My sister is also severely autistic and I can tell you all of that stuff that charlies going through as his brother is so real . It was also the 80s many were just oblivious but many people starting to reach out i remmeber cashiers for no reason buying her a stuffed animal when she was a little kid. I remember tantrums young and the security held my mom back with her and then my father showed up they threatened to call the police and he said "you can call whoever you want you dont know a thing about autism ! I am taking my daughter" and he just walked away with her
Both Tom and Dustin were INCREDIBLE in this wonderful movie.
I wish Tom Cruise would still do these films that show his immense film acting talent...
...maybe he will again...😊
Dustin Hoffman actually farted in the phone booth and their reactions were improv
So happy that you reacted to this film. It’s so emotional. Dustin and Tom really had me invested in their story when we start to learn of their past. Dustin Hoffman is a talented actor. I loved his work in Hook and Mr. Magorium’s Wonder Emporium.
About your elevator scene feelings. We live in a very tough time, where viewpoints are more narrow about certain situations than in the past that no one had a problem with. In my own opinion, (which I admit is more narrow that most people I know), I don't believe what she did in the elevator was to take advantage of him. She'd seen how Ray had seemed disappointed by missing his "date." She'd heard how Charlie had taught Ray to dance. I truly believe what she wanted was to allow him to experience a very innocent date. A dance, and a chaste kiss goodnight. She didn't press in, she didn't force. Never once did she attempt to make more of it than Ray would allow. I can see the view of consent, and much is made of it in our day, rightly so, because many have been made victims by a lack of consent in a situation. I feel that she felt sorry for Ray. She gave him elements of a date, without the dangers or risks he would have had with that prostitute.
"K-Mart sucks!" is a bonding moment. Raymond adopted his brother's phrase, and used it later.
"What you have to understand is, four days ago he was only my brother in name. And this morning we had pancakes."
This is a great family movie about brothers, a rare subject matter for Hollywood.
As much as I detest how they treat General Custer, I think Dustin Hoffman's performance in Little Big Man (1970) is his absolute best. If I wasn't a student of history, I'd buy that movie's revisionist agitprop. I still recommend that movie thoroughly.
Fun Fact: The elderly man in the waiting room who talks on and on about the Pony Express is Byron P. Cavnar, an 89-year-old local who was in the waiting room when the crew arrived to film there. He got to talking on his favorite subject, the Pony Express, and director Barry Levinson got such a kick out of it that he let Cavnar keep on talking as the cameras rolled. All his dialogue was spontaneous and not scripted.
Best Ending Fact: Dustin Hoffman fought for the ending where Raymond goes back to Wallbrook, even though the screenwriters both wanted him to end up with Charlie. Hoffman thought it wouldn't be true to Raymond's character if they had him stay.
Historical Fact: What Raymond Babbitt says about Qantas was, and still is true. From 1921 to now, Qantas has never lost any jet airliners. They even promoted one of the movie's writers to first class once when he travelled on their airline.
Hi Gator! Thanks for all the facts about this. I really like that Dustin fought for that ending, because I think it is the best outcome too. I don't think Ray could have really thrived with Charlie fully, or it would take years to, and Charlie would really have to adjust his entire life in order to care for him and I did not get the impression he was truly up for that, or knew what kind of sacrifice that would end up being.
kaiielle ...You're welcome!
I agree with you more on the ending.
Go in Peace and Walk with God! 😎 👍
I’m also ASD, and I have spent most of my life not knowing why I was different from most everyone else.
I was in special education classes and pretty much everyone roasted us for being different.
We were called the fruit bowl class, and rode the “short bus.”
The only thing they really knew about me was that I had ADD and had difficulty staying on task.
ADD/ADHD, as it’s called now, OCD Anxiety and Depression all usually go hand in hand with ASD.
I didn’t speak much in public for most of my childhood, (There are probably additional reasons for that that likely stem from abuse)
But mostly, I think that I was struggling with reality, as to me it always felt so surreal. I was struggling to understand the way my brain functioned, or didn’t at times.
As I’ve gotten older I’ve come to realize and identify with my disorder through meeting someone else who was so much like me as a kid, it unbelievable.
My ex girlfriend and best friend of nearly 15 years has a son who is a high functioning Autistic.
I see so much of myself in him now, and we really get along quite well.
I’m not 100% about the science of Autism. But I have learned some things over the years that are not always common knowledge.
So, in saying that we have come a long way since the 1980’s in our understanding of Autism, you were right. That’s very true.
I also feel like the different degrees of functionality and understanding are greatly influenced by socialization and therapy.
Especially for those who have severe cases. I think in the past if we didn’t understand why people were different we just locked them away. In someone like Raymond’s case, I think that may be why he was so affected by it.
If you lock anyone away and don’t expose them to society and every day life, they are going to regress.
So just imagine how that would affect someone who is already struggling to relate and needs a strict routine and a guided life in general.
I think technology helps a lot in this age as well. Autistics LOVE them some video games and computer networking. 😊
I think it helps with cognitive function, somewhat learning about the world in a way that feels like less of a personal immersion, and also helps to get people socialized and learn about people all over the world that they are introduced to through online gaming.
I’ve learned through repetition and exposure, and sometimes even being shamed by my peers and friends, what NOT to do in mixed company, but I’ll always be 5-10 years behind in maturity. But there is hope for development for some of us as we age.
When I was in elementary school, how they dealt with us misbehaving, was to either restrain us (something they actually taught teachers then) or to lock us in what they called a “time-out box” This was basically like an 8 foot wooden box lined with very thin short carpet and had chicken wire on top of it. Yes, I’d say we’ve come a long way.
I admire your gigantic heart, and really enjoy your reactions. Thank you. (SORRY THIS WAS SO LONG!)
This was a wonderful comment to read, thank you so much for sharing. It really is terrible how we used to treat people who weren't "normal" and obedient like everyone else. To your point about technology helping, I agree. I have streamed on Twitch for over 3 years and autistic folks really love using Twitch. It allows them to practice being social with others in a text-based format where they can get better at things like reading the energy of a room, without having some of the cues to help them, like body language, tone of voice, etc. I have had a few viewers with autism over the years (they are very vocal about letting us streamers know they are autistic). Thank you again for your comment and glad you enjoyed the reaction! ☺️
@@kaiielle That’s wonderful to hear.
It makes sense, and it makes me feel hopeful and a bit of pride for those who have found something that gives them not only tools for the future, but a sense of security in who they are.
The beauty of acting and film…and great acting…award winning acting is that you truly feel emotions for the characters. You honestly hate yet somehow understand Charlie in the early stages of the film but by the end of it you’re with him and you feel like Raymond is your friend, your brother and your responsibility. THAT’S what makes the medium such a gorgeous art form. It’s putting yourself in their position even if you’ve never experienced it yourself. You did experience it…just from another point of view
Agree!
Loved your reaction here
I'm autistic myself and while a lot of things didn't age well like the oversaturation of savantism in media and it's implication that ability/utility=value, overall this movie still holds up pretty well, especially for something released in the 1980s.
I also wanted to address you constantly saying Raymond doesn't understand. Autism is not a cognitive disorder nor is it a (direct) learning disability. It's mostly a sensory processessing/nervous system disorder. It can feel like you're on fire and drowning all the time. Imagine going through that while trying to carry on a mundane conversation. That's why some people can be non verbal or seem like they're "not all there". It has nothing to do with cognitive ability or intelligence. Also certain ideas or phrases can comfort that extreme stress and some can make it worse. Hence why autistic people cling and repeat certain thoughts and words and altogether ignore and block out others.
The truth of this movie is that Tom Cruise's character represents a lot of people's attitudes to autism in the 1980's. As someone recently diagnosed with ASD, I can tell you that attitudes haven't really changed as much as you might want to believe.
I'm sorry to hear that. 🥲❤️ People can be really cruel.
Such insightful comments you give this really wonderful/sad/poignant/fascinating film! You've got to see "The Graduate" with Dustin Hoffman -- the movie that made him a star!!! It is brilliant!
The whole phone booth fart scene was real and Dustin Hoffman actually did fart but they amazingly stayed in character so they left it in the film as it was perfect. Such a great movie and Dustin Hoffman was truly outstanding in the role. It made people aware of autism which was good in a way but then when parents heard their child were autistic it sadly brought up Dustin Hoffman in this role.
Midnight Cowboy for Dustin Hoffman and Dog Day Afternoon for Al Pacino
Great reaction Missy! I loved that you loved this movie! I haven’t watched it in forever but remember it well! The bathroom scene was my favourite too. You reacted pretty much the way I I did. I didn’t like Charlie taking advantage of Raymond either but I loved the special times they did share. Glad you liked it!
Hans Zimmer's score is wonderful in this film, in fact it is Hans Zimmer's Hollywood debut with this film, it´s his first work in Hollywood, music with a unique sound, a mix of flute with synthesizer sounds, more drums Africans, it was something rare and unique at the time. This music was liked so much that it caught the attention of other directors and Hans was quickly summoned by several directors, including Ridley Scott for Black Rain and Thelma and Louise, his brother Tony Scott, summons Hans for Days of Thunder (another movie with Tom Cruise ), for Crimson Tide, True Romance, etc and several other directors also hire him. and Hans' career takes off quickly, because since Rain Man, Hans hasn't stopped working. And regarding the sound of Hans in those years it was like that, in the 80s and 90s, he used a lot of synthesizer and not so much orchestra, that came later from the movies like: Backdraft, The Lion King and Gladiator, where he began to incorporate more orchestra , combined with his synth sounds.
I agree with you about that elevator scene. It was not only inappropriate it also ran counter to Susanna's character who in the first part of the film was someone who picked up on how Raymond was terrified of things that were outside of his comfortable routine. She of all people in the film didn't seem like someone who would do something like that.
As a person with autism myself I totally agree that Kmart sucks. And if I wore underwear I would not get them at Kmart.
I’m sure you are all looking forward to one of my two page comments ( not ) but I wanted to respond to having personal knowledge about Autism. My Uncle Gilbert ( we called him Uncle Gib “ had the intellect of a 6 year old and couldn’t really spell all that much. Mostly his name and not to much more than that. But he was an excellent bowler. 5 pin with a 208 average. Not bad at all. One day the 4 of us and Gib played. About half way through the game I asked what my score was. Without hesitation he knew my score and everybody else’s straight away. Wow!! The other thing was when we would come to town in the summer I would sit at the kitchen table with my grandfather and my Uncle Gib listening to the Tigers baseball game. It was a ritual which I carry with me to this day. Not all the time but when I do catch a game I don’t watch it I listen to it like granddad and Uncle Gib. Gib for some reason knew every players batting average on the team. He may not have been Autistic I don’t know but he amazed me and I loved him so very much and remains one of the most beautiful memories of my life. He had no politics or hidden agenda. He wasn’t petty or biased . He couldn’t articulate or understand. He just was Gib. He died of an aneurysm instantly a few months before he turned 50. Grand Malle seizures almost every single day of his life. And he never complained about any of it. He was my Rain Man.
1. Hoffman really did fart in the phonebooth. Being professionals they worked through it in character.
2. The casino would have swapped out the dealer before taking the step of kicking them out.
3. The hooker was just working and it's doubtful she turned them in.
4. I suspect Charlie has a bit of his "piece of work" father has just as Raymond got the
completely different personalities. (mentally/emotionally)
I'm an ASD myself, so there's much relatable regarding this. It's very enjoyable to view all of the different reactions to this one.
I also love watching different reactions to certain movies. It's interesting seeing how people view things differently, or maybe even the same.
Good reaction/review, I'll give you a quick autism story about a little girl. I think she was 4, who took a liking to me and when her mother came in to work to visit with her they would always stop by to see me. She rarely talked but she made her feelings known. Her mom said she liked me because I let her do what SHE wants rather than try to explain things to her or talk to her. An example was one day she had a toy where you put different shapes in different holes. She picked an octagon shape and tried to put it into a round hole. Of course she didn't fit properly so she started banging it with another piece. Rather than showing her the proper piece I handed her something heavier and banged it a little and handed it to her. She felt that it was heavier so she used that to bang the piece in. When it was in she took the toy and turned it upside down to show me that now the piece wouldn't fall out because it was tightly in there. The mother was watching and told me "I was wondering where this was going, this is why she likes you". She's now older I think 8 and still looks forward to her visits, her mom told me stopping in to see me is what she has to do first. I honestly don't do anything special, I just let her do what she wants and I help her, if she wants, sometimes she just wants me to watch. Its such a great feeling.
That's lovely! Thank you for sharing. 😊
Glade you enjoyed our province. Ontario has a lot to offer. There’s a ton of beauty and culture here. Hope you had a great time for sure. Looking forward to your reaction
So humid! Which I am not used to being in Alberta and I love our dry heat. But I had a lovely time!
Definitely a more harsh and often more nerve-wracked reaction to this film than I'm used to seeing. Despite the inaccuracies, the film does deserve a ton of credit for being the first piece of mainstream media to spotlight the autism spectrum. For a certain generation this was the very first time their consciousness was raised at all, and in an era where mental health in general received very little exposure too.
Totally agree!
Did you see the shots of the pictures Raymond took during the credits at the end?
I did! I just didn't include it in the reaction. I watched it after recording.
@@kaiielle Also FYI, 20 dollars in 1988 would be equivalent of $50.09 today. So, that definitely is a pretty cheap ass motel Charlie and Raymond are staying at.
As far as you mentioning that Charlie really didn't redeem himself because being greedy is not something that turns off and changes right away . Well , that would have been true if he had taken that $150,000 check from Dr.Bruner when they met by the pool , but he handed the check back to him .
It was $250,000!!!
Greetings from New Orleans... digging the reactions and commentary
Amazing masterpiece Rain Man directed by Barry Levinson and starring by Dustin Hoffman and Tom Cruise. This film won an Oscar for best picture and best actor by Dustin Hoffman. Thank you kaiielle great reaction excellent😊👍👍👍
Thanks for watching! Glad you enjoyed it.
@@kaiielle You're welcome pretty lady I saw this film so many times when I was a kid. Don't forget K-Mart sucks😄😄😄😄😄
@@PedroCastillo_1980 I won't lie, I kinda miss K-Mart.
@@kaiielle 😊😊😊
So glad you wrote this. You explained it better than I could have. I can't stand the term "retard" as a description of someone but have never been uncomfortable with the term "retarded."
I adore this film no matter how accurate or inaccurate it may be. I just think it's a great story and well executed. My favorite character without question is Charlie.
21:27...The way Tom grabbed that steering wheel and delivered that line made ME feel his frustration with Ray.
Great reaction! I really enjoyed how detailed your review was. I saw this in theaters when I was in my 20's with a woman, I was dating at the time that had just started to work with autistic children. She would have agreed with you about the elevator scene, especially locking them both in the elevator and kissing him. Asking to dance with him while Charlie was there would have been a better decision. Still a great film flaws and all, and an important one that brought attention to autism.
One of the best non-action Tom Cruise performances along with A Few Good Men and Jerry Mcguire. Worth checking out if you haven't seen them.
Dustin Hoffman was in lots of really good films from the 60-90's. All very different types of roles as well, pretty versatile actor. The Graduate, All the Presidents Men, Tootsie, Midnight Cowboy, Kramer vs Kramer and Hook are probably the most famous ones. Not many have been reacted to for some reason but all probably worth a watch at some point.
Thanks Rob! Haven't seen any of those movies you listed.
He doesn't understand the questions? Um, i think it's the fact that he has an issue with touching / being held
and the fact that he came in a bit too hard / abrupt. My niece has it fyi.
Definitely!
His father leaving him the car and rose bushes should show Charlie he loved him...the two things most important in his life he left to him....he did not care about money....
Loved that reaction. I would argue that there is no such thing as neurotypical, but I understand what you were saying. This movie hits in a special way because I have a nephew who has autism and is non-verbal. This movie is a great one. EDIT: I'd like to add that you're getting far too many views with far too few subs. SUB people! If you like the content enough to watch the video, and clicking a button is too much work, you need to think about how much work/money/time goes into making these videos.
Regarding the subbing, it's okay. I think the TH-cam algorithm works so well now that if you've seen one video on a channel it will recommend all their new ones to you. Even a huge reactor that I moderate for has almost 250k subscribers and like 65% of all her views come from people who aren't subscribed. It's just the way it goes. I appreciate your conments though! It means a lot.
Love the reaction! You missed the pics from Raymond during the credits though. Great stuff!!
I watched the credits off-camera! Loved the pics. And thank you!
Ray is definitely able to consent.
See: airport scene
The meeting of the assholes at the end always infuriates me. Raymond was set up for failure just to spite Charlie.
OMG! Just spotted your BB8 mug. Gotta get one. 😃
He lives permanently on my desk ever since I got him!
Great movie. Thx for the reaction. (I don't know why more reactors haven't watched it.)
Thanks for watching! Glad you enjoyed it.
You can see the real RAINMAN on TH-cam. He is whom Hoffman studied for the role.
Well I didn't expect to have an emotional rollercoaster this evening. Wow. I saw this movie once when I was little and remembered so little: Guy with disabilities, money is tied to him, they're brothers, they grow close, KMart sucks. Mostly KMart sucks I thought that was hilarious.
This was just damn. Its frustrating having majored in Psych in the 2010s and as you said people took this to mean: This Is What Autism Is and its just no. And I was so stressed out for Ray and pissed at Charlie for causing him so much distress (some wittingly and some unwittingly).
Who's On First is great Ray has great taste.
So objectively I think you're totally right about Susanna in the elevator for all the reasons you said. It might be interesting to think about this in the context of the 80s such as it is. How much was the concept of consent in public consciousness back then? I would think not at all unless you're in court and that's relevant. I would bet in the 80s this was written and received by the audience that Susanna was doing Ray a solid in letting him experience kissing a girl because despite the clear portrayal of Ray's character, I think everyone would've assumed that because he's a dude then OF COURSE he wants some action. That's just a baseline that EVERY dude wants right? Even though in reality thats not necessarily true, either for people like Ray or just some people aren't interested in such things and that's fine too. I'm curious if people who saw this when it came out could confirm or deny my suppositions about how this scene was received.
Wasn't Dustin Hoffman the father/scientist in Beyond Two Souls?
"So me being a good catcher I try get out the guy on first base so I throw it to who?"
Naturally.
"Naturally?"
Naturally!
"Ok so I pick the ball up and throw it to Naturally."
NO! You throw it WHO!
Hey Ash! That's a great point about Susanna. And you are probably very correct with how you outlined it. I just can't help but view it from my life experience and current knowledge. Appreciate you sharing and I'm very glad that you got to rewatch the movie this way!
@@kaiielle Yeah I'm still shook.
Yeah I would say you are CORRECT and how I view Han Solo now but just may be interesting to note the historical context.
My opinion on the elevator scene is that Suzanna did not do it to take advantage of Ray. I think she felt bad for him having been stood up for his "date". For what most people understood of consent at the time, she didn't think it was wrong. Consent wasn't really talked about in the 80s.
Yeah, a few folks have talked about this and it totally makes sense. I'm very glad our understanding of consent has evolved since those days!
@@kaiielle I grew up in the 80s. So many movies and shows we loved back then are really cringy when you re-watch them today!
True, but it's also a good reminder of how things have changed too!
Not sure if you’ve ever seen Black Rain, but that’s another early Hans Zimmer movie
Huge crush on Valeria Golino.
You mentioned wanting to see the pictures Raymond took throughout the trip; did you notice that they were shown during the credits?
Sure did! Just didn't include it in the reaction.
'You..you're the Rain Man?'
That whole interaction is just 😥 city for me.
And that head touch 😭💕
I have an autistic son and my view of people on the spectrum was coloured exclusively by this movie, until I had my eldest and had a real education on the complexities and varieties of people who are neuro-diverse.
Dustin Hoffman did a great job for sure, but it was a very specific and debilitating version of the condition and is not the whole story for ASC.
Anyway, sorry to ramble, I love this movie and enjoyed your reaction as always.
Yes, I really talked about that a lot as soon as the movie was over. It's truly a wide spectrum. The way Dustin is, is only a small part of the neurodivergent population. Our understanding of autism specifically has come such a long way, not only in the last 34 years, but even just the last 5-10.
I'm glad you enjoyed it and thank you for your comment!
Sorry I did catch most of your discussion after it ended and I posted (prematurely perhaps). Really appreciate your analysis and thoughtfulness on the topic.
@@nickthepeasant Oh it's all good! Just wanted to clarify for others too who might be reading the comments.
Did u see at the end of the movie they showed ray’s pics
Sure did! Just didn't record that part.
32:49 - First time I watched this, I thought she was a plant by the casino to get info. As soon as Raymond admitted to counting cards, I was like ... Oh no, but I was wrong. They determined that from video evidence haha. If you are interested in a couple of other movies that deal with people that have special needs, I suggest What's Eating Gilbert Grape with a really young Leo and Depp and the not as well-known The Peanut Butter Falcon. I do think the elevator seen was supposed to be wholesome, but I understand about the him not being able to give consent or understand what is going on.
Fantastic review. You mentioned earlier that you wished to see the pictures that Raymond was taking; well, if you let the credits play, they did show the photographs from Raymonds camera. Please go back and this time let the credits play all the way through
Don't worry, I watched them after I recorded! I don't record the credits for reaction videos unless there is a scene playing out, or it's a post-credits scene.
Did you catch Raymond's pictures in the end credits?
I did! Just didn't record that part (usually don't record credits unless there's an actual scene playing).
Kaiielle,
Good job reviewing Rain Man. As for the elevator, I think Charlie's GF had nothing but good intentions for Raymond in the elevator scene. During her limited screen time in the movie, she constantly had Raymond's back & argued with Charlie over how he was treating Raymond in her presence. She never showed any desire over any part of the $3M Charlie was obsessed in obtaining from Raymond. I think her actions in the elevator was her way of making up for Raymond being stood up by the lady he met at the bar. It was her way of showing Raymond some love & attention he missed all the years he lived in the institution & during his trip with Charlie to L.A. She showed no signs of being a "gold digger" in the movie. I wish I could have married her instead of my own ex-wife. Speaking of gold diggers.... 🤣
Retarded was and still is a medical term and there's NOTHING wrong with its use in that capacity. It's also an adjective (to retard) meaning to slow down something. It fell out of favor only because it's use spread to slang language of people using "retard" as an insult. I only bring this up because I find it unfair to think that 30 years ago we were somehow "backwardass" for using a perfectly legit term. Just like the word "cripple" is no longer used because handicapped replaced it. It's nothing to cringe about.
Yeah, language constantly evolves and even though it is still a medical term, it is more commonly used as a slur today so I do find it uncomfortable to hear and that is just me. I know other folks also find it uncomfortable too which is why I elected to remove the audio of it being said. To be clear, I am not wishing the movie had been made differently without the use of it. I understand that back in the 80s and even the 90s it was a common word to describe mentally disabled folks.
The thing most of the reactors do that I think is an overreaction is assigning every single thing that happens to Ray as mean or evil in some way. I get the wanting to protect him from any agenda Charlie may have. But Suzanne at no time did anything inappropriate to Ray. In the elevator you really think she was perving out on Ray? Lots of reactors did. She was simply letting Ray experience going on a date with a girl. It was very touching. He let certain people get a little closer to him. It looks like Charlie and his father and his brother had the same problem. Communicating and showing love to others. We are seeings things unfold in a very up close and personal way but step back and see things in a more general context and I think you may see the similarities. Nobody changes completely in 6 days. I think Charlie came a long ways . He made up with Suzanne in a genuine way and in the end he knew the right path. The thing I take from this? Dustin Hoffman is one badass character actor who won an academy award. Tom did a great job too. Good movie
I’ve never seen the movie but they had the premiere in my shitty hometown
I don't know if anybody has mentioned it but Rain Man is based on Kim Peek, I believe the inspiration for the movie is based on the writer's interaction with Kim and how fascinating he found him. Kim died 13 years ago, but a lot of his interviews are available on TH-cam, and you can witness how smart he really is, he could read two pages of a book at the same time. Dustin Hoffman spent a lot of time with him to prepare for the role of Raymond.
Enjoyed the video!
I didn't think I'd like this but I did. I saw it later after it's prime.
1. Hoffman really did fart in the phone booth. Being professionals they worked through it in character.
2. The casino would have swapped out the dealer before taking the step of kicking them out.
3. The hooker was just working and it's doubtful she turned them in.
4. I suspect Charlie has a bit of his "piece of work" father has just as Raymond got the
completely different personalities. (mentally/emotionally)
Great points!
What most people miss in this movie is Charlie is just as messed up as Raymond is...their outburst are similiar...and Charlie's girlfriend is a horrible person
You wanted to see the photos Raymond was taking, and at the end of the movie they were showing them while the credits rolled bay! You missed it.... ;(
I saw it off-camera.
👍♥️♥️! Great movie! it's been years now!
"Sleepers" is one you do not want to miss!....👍♥️♥️!
And where’s K-Mart today? The truth was spoken. 😁
hero is another great Dustin Hoffman movie
Hello
👋
I have seen Rain Man hundreds and hundreds of times. I agree with you on the elevator scene. Tbh I don't really understand what Susanna was really trying to do. Maybe Susanna doesn't know what autism is? Either way she should've known that Raymond isn't gonna be able to comprehend the meaning of a kiss. If Charlie and Susanna broke up? Perhaps it wasn't Susanna breaking up with Charlie. Perhaps it was the other way around. Maybe Charlie didn't like that his gf was playing mind games with someone so vulnerable...
I've had a couple others explain their perspectives on that scene which has helped me out a bit, but I am glad that someone else feels the same way that I do!
Hello u said u are playing catch up on watching movies OMG 1 down here right and probably more than 101, 759 more movies to go wow u better stock up on food and popcorn dear lady enjoy lol
just wanna say I enjoyed your reaction but I also think you shouldn't be bothered over the use of a clinical term like "retarded". yes, it can be used as an insult, but when it's used in reference to someone with actual mental disabilities it's not an insult it's just a medical term. my uncle had a lot of physical and mental disabilities; it was a lot easier to just say to my friends that he was retarded than it was to list the several physical and then the mental problems he had, and then try to explain what each one was.
Language is evolving, as it always does, and it is a word that is not considered appropriate to use anymore.
I agree with you 100% on the inappropriateness of the elevator kiss. I think the intent of the script was that it would be “cute” with Raymond’s “wet” response, but… no. I think the creepiness of it would have been more obvious with a gender reversal. If the autistic character was a woman, a lot more people would be outraged with a man giving her a non-consensual kiss. Great reaction, Kaiielle. I’d love to see more reactions to serious films. 👍
millennials are outraged by everything
It is so hard to watch sensitive people react to movies you were probably born in 1999 try paying attention to the movie and stop putting your know all be all knowledge
Wow, I really appreciate you thinking that I am that young! What a compliment! Thank you Jason!