Love to hear your breakdowns of the product. You have one of the better feels for these types of materials. But no lie the blackheart is amazing titanium bike that takes the classic idea of the bike. And modern look of a road bike today. Honestly very enjoyable ride and nice video!!😊
Amazing review not a stone left unturned i have never ridden a titanium frame but boy over rough roads that's a winner Luis like 85% of our roads thank you i loved the video keep safe Sir.
Been waiting for you to review titanium, my brother! I’ve just recently been scratching the itch to get my “lifetime” bike and I’ve been contemplating the Litespeed Spezia. Titanium is so forgiving and beautiful! As usual, great video!👍🏽
Nice review, I am really enjoying my Blackheart Road Ti so far. I have a different perspective on the cornering, my old Scott Addict (not the Addict RC) corners like a pick up truck so the Blackheart is like a sports car to me.
Man I’m so chuffed for you. The expression and passion is easy to see on your channel. I had a Ti mtb in my younger mounting biking days and loved it. Been on Aluminium and Carbon road bikes lately and now on a much better fitting bike. Look forward to the continued reviews and seeing power numbers too. Cheers
I really appreciate your input on riding. On the West coast we have many trails available that provide safe access. Keep up the good work. 74 but still riding
I had a Seven Cycles Axiom with traditional frame geometry. It was very responsive and predictable to rider input. Compared to my steel frame bike, road vibration was greatly reduced and the ride was very comfortable. However, I changed to Seven's hybrid titanium/carbon fiber frame. It absorbed even more of the harsh road vibration, yet has the same responsive and predicable ride as the all-titanium Axiom. Both bikes were purchased on the second-hand market at a fraction their new prices.
That is cool you ride with the GC guy, I like his videos too. Another great topic, love to see these different frame material takes. Cheers, and ride safe.
Another great film! - your descriptions on the miniature of characteristics are superb! I've always felt that (in general) steel provides a soft flex which dampens the road, aluminum has a spring - as in an energy return or ping when you put power into the frame, and titanium can do both. Carbon can do both too but it depends on the layup (i had a v3rs and that had a ping on initial power put down - now a have a c68, and this has a different ping - when you power 100w over your norm, it has a feeling like a sudden rush of energy being pushed into the rear triangle).
I'm glad to see this video and hear your assessment of this bike as I have one on order from Blackheart and expect it to be built this week. This will be my second titanium bike, the first being an Airborne Valkyrie with Campy Centaur components. I had bought that one in 2002. I sold that one after a couple of years, returned to steel frame, then in 2018 bought a carbon bike. It's okay as an endurance bike, but I've never felt inspired on it. I think this Blackheart Road Ti is going to tick a lot of boxes and inspire a lot of rides for me.
I appreciate your initial description of the frame's performance. When you return it to them, I hope they'll consider sending one of their _7005_ aluminum bikes to review. Thx
Lively yet vibration immune, conservative-ish turning response ~ right up my alley. I've a Eisentraut rainbow custom steel that soaks up the bumps, yet predictible ~ might have to try Ti :) Excellent overview !¡ Many Thanks.
Awesome video! One suggestion is to swop out the wheels to the ones you used on the steel and carbon bikes. I believe the different wheels will have some effect even if you run same width tyres and pressure
Original owner of a Serotta Hors Catagorie, comfort defined; ride for hours over any conditions, I'll be fine; made to soak up rough roads & carve descents.
Very nice Luis.. i watched GC review when he first got his.. I own a titanium framed bike and steel frame all have slightly different ride feel and qualities 😊 Pete 🚴🏻👍
I put my carbon Pinarello Dogma F8 on the trainer and ride a ti Moots road bike with 33mm tires. Vamoots CRD is the most enjoyable, satisfying road bike I have ever owned or ridden.
Hola! I’ve watched several of your videos. New to your channel. Was looking for a video of were you might explain what got you into cycling, how long you’ve been doing it. What your spouse/family thinks of it. What you wished you knew then that you know now about the sport. Thank you for all videos and wealth of knowledge. Bendiciones a usted y a su Familia.
Gracias por los buen deceos y bendiciones a la Familia. I have thought about doing something like that many times but never really did. May be a good time now. Thanks for watching 👍🏾
Thanx for your Steel Frame Bike Videos. They are insightful. I've always looked at getting a Titanium Bike, but cannot afford my dream Van Nicholas Ti Bike. There is still quite a few Litespeed Ti Bikes available 2nd hand in my country, so will probably look at those. But ultimately my dream bike is a Van Nicholas.
A big downside of the large diameter seattube is the increased stiffness of the seatpost compared to a similar 27.2 mm one. A 31.6 mm seatpost is typically 82% stiffer than a 27.2 one, whereas a 34.8 mm one is 168% stiffer than the 27.2 one - for identical constructions and wall thicknesses, of course. Therefore, to achieve a similar degree of flex and comfort, one would have to engineer the larger diameter seatpost with much thinner walls, which is often not the case. Besides the maths, I own a Ti frame with a 31.6 mm seatpost, and I had to dig around a bit to find a carbon seatpost that is as comfortable as the previous 27.2 mm one I used to ride. Using a shim is always an option to that end, allowing you to use a 27.2 mm seatpost, although it is a bit of a bodge, adds quite a bit of weight and ruins the overall aesthetics of the bike a little - not to mention you need to be careful with aluminium and carbon interfaces as they chemically bond if anti-seize compound is not used.
@@randomname8442 for starters, a scarcely known one, Massi MSP-304. Well-known comfortable carbon seatposts (such as Syntace P6 Carbon HiFlex) were way too expensive for my budget. I may upgrade it in the future to something else - perhaps a titanium seatpost if I find a reasonably priced one with zero setback.
@@randomname8442 (somehow my previous answer disappeared) I am using a hardly known Massi MSP-304. I looked into more expensive and more well-known comfortable seatpost options, such as the Syntace P6 Carbon HiFlex, but they were way too expensive for my budget. I may upgrade it in the future for a titanium one, if I can find a good quality one with zero setback for a decent price.
Thanks for the comment. 28-30mm tires running at 70-80 psi negates the need for a flexi seatpost. It's something we tested to confirm and prefer the aesthetic.
Thanks for the review! Never ridden a Ti bike before, curious how would it feel. You looked very close to the handlebars at 4:31 with maybe a bit of toe overlap?
Such a clean looking frame. Loving the short seat stays, I imagine it really stiffens things up and helps with cornering. Not a fan of the massive head tube but understand the need for butting the larger diameter tubing and additional spacing to hide the cables. I wonder what costs more aerodynamically speaking, being able to hide the cables of the massive head tube? Reminds me of the Lynskey R500 a bit. Great review and looking forward to hearing more about the overall performance of the frame.
Great video man I thought about titanium just so expensive better make sure it’s the right choice right absolutely love the Bike for the amount of money you pay for it
Did it. Walty custom frame, Low BB height, full internal cables, medium diameter tubeset, Chorus 12 32-48 crank, 11-32 cassette, Churus 12 group, TRP CX84 Vee Brakes, Vision KOM carbon wheels, Clement 32mm tires, Redshift suspension Post and Stem. A full suspension equivalent at under 18 pounds. 71 degree headtube, 76 degree seattube. Super stable and quick, The redshift stuff soaks up any bumps.
@@thegoodwheel Always, truly love your videos and thanks for sharing. You are right about the rain. I am down the road and non-stop rain here in Miami as well.
Thanks for the comment. Although we have our frames welded at our factory overseas, we design, build, and ship out of Truckee, CA, employing local folks right here in the USA 🖤
This is the video i was waiting for. So happy to see that you got your hands on a high quality titanium setup. Excited to hear even more of your thoughts after more miles. 🫶
Very interesting review and thanks for sharing, this is first time I heard of this brand. Rode a GT Edge titanium back in 2008 equipped with dura ace 7800 and zipp 808 wheels , the bike was responsive and predictable in handling but I found titanium a little bit too springy. Another time in 2010, I tried an Independant Fabrication Crown jewel made of Reynolds double butted titanium, like the GT the bike was responsive and predictable in handling but more stiff than the GT however I didn't find the sensations I have on my steel or aluminium frames. Does blackheart use Reynolds double butted titanium tubes??
Hi! My other comment about titanium bikes (I’m like the main advocate for Ti on TH-cam) 😂seems to have gone missing? I was just saying if you want any help or advise let me know. 🙂👍🏻
I would absolutely not consider this bike just from the seatpost size alone. My Supersix Evo corners like a F1 car. What does it weigh? What is it like up a 15 mile 9% grade climb
I have a question for you if you do not mind to answer. I really like to know what bike geometry that provides comfort to ride. Both steel and Aluminum. I own a Trek Domane -year2023, I find it uncomfortable to pedal even though it is considered an endurance bike. I also have other touring bikes that are more comfortable to ride. I like to purchase another road bike in the future but i want to be sure before I spend the money. I am only interested in steel and Al frame. Thank in advance.
Thanks for watching. I did swap the saddle because the Fizik it came with didn't suit me. Only other thing I would've considered is the front chain ring... but I am not sure yet.
Oh yea I totally understand about the out of place look smaller diameter tubes cause with bigger head tubes. That actually looks really good! The ever so slightly slower cornering I personally prefer cuz I don’t like that “wobble” effect extremely aggressive bikes have! I feel ya with the rain, it’s been bike rollers almost every day for me here too!
Is your position on this bike, relative to the center BB, the same as on your other bikes? Specifically, are you sitting more forward over the BB, because of the zero offset seatpost in addition to the STA at 74 deg?
It could be. I'll know after a few more rides and cleansing my palet by riding my other bike. Numbers look fine, though. I had to swap out the saddle, so I'll see after that. Thanks for watching 👍🏾
I own no "true" road bikes and zero CF framed bikes. I ride my CX and gravel bikes (Ti, steel, alu) on paved surface rides. I knew it was just a matter of time before a nice Ti bike made it into your stable to ride and review. Lol. Great looking bike and dope initial review as well. Looking fwd to you long term impression!
You know I've never even really considered a titanium bike. I've always considered it to be out of my price range, or too pricey for what I would get. Does that bike have a carbon fork? like a lot of aluminum bikes you want to get a carbon Fork to dampen the vibration. What about steel bikes, I've never considered Steel bikes, do you normally get those with a carbon Fork as well?
Are the numbers of people on the Black heart because they are being sponsored to ride it or did they all buy it? Because that’s an impressive win for titanium if that’s all new titanium customers! 😳
Two people I have spoken to, one bought the complete build, the other bought the frame and built it up. The others... I don't know. But yes, it is hopefully a nice growing trend 👍🏾 Thanks for watching
I hope you come out of this rut soon- thinking steel bikes are better than carbon. If that was the case, I'm sure the pros would be all over it. The regular Joes wants what the pros are using.
There has been no point in any video I've made... including this one, where I have said that steel bikes are better performing than carbon. What is suitable for pros is not necessarily what is best for the average joe. Thanks for watching
Ha, ha. The pros NEVER get to choose the bike they want. Remember Rohan Dennis quitting the TdF over a bike? Contract not renewed. Shoes and saddles are probably the only leeway given to pros. Even then, they often have to cover up the branding if it competes with the sponsors bike. I think there are some great carbon bikes out there, and I'd certainly like to ride them. But the one I own and have no intention of selling is a custom geometry Columbus Spirit. To me, a perfect fit is worth more than saving a few grams. Maybe not the fastest, but a lot of fun and you certainly don't feel rattled after riding on lousy roads. Going down a hill, 40km/hr or 80km/hr -- feels the same. No shimmy and so well composed. Could probably let go of the bars (but never would)!
@thegoodwheel Wow, haha... Luis, in one of your videos, the subtitles actually read "better than carbon?!" I'm not sure if that was just for clickbait, but occasionally you do imply that steel frames are superior to carbon. You seem to recommend steel frames as more appropriate for the everyday, average rider. Yet, the evidence is clear - over 90 percent of the riders in your videos are on carbon frames. I'm just pointing out that there doesn't seem to be a large audience for steel frames. By the way, I have a Ford Model T to sell you if you're interested...hahaha
1st The PROs don't choose their bikes. 2nd Regular Joes wants what the PROs are using because regular Joes are victims of marketing hype.....plain and simple. 3rd How many PROs have ever won a Triple Crown Victory using carbon fiber bikes? NONE/ZERO/NINGUNO. Now, how many PROs have ever won a Triple Crown Victory using steel bikes? ONLY TWO.😉
@@mr.rodriguez3512 Hahaha, I don't even know how to reply to on your comment without dog walking you through the evolution of cycling. But you being butt hurt on my comment is noted.
Great update for me. I considered Litespeed way back but it didn't feel like you described. Back then (+15yago) I was strictly solo typically 70-100 each ride on aluminum. Went to carbon boy what comfortable difference. Should I move away from carbon now @ 66yo I will look @ TI
It’s a beautiful bike, I would be happy to own. Ti is an awesome material in terms of longevity and I have no doubt that your rough road experience was as explained however this would be down to the following: carbon seat post, carbon fork, carbon handlebars, carbon wheels and 28mm tyres. The marketing of Ti in terms of road buzz absorption has been debunked definitively by engineers like Peak Torque and you can’t dismiss the science unless you have a counter argument based on science. As setup, to suggest that the rough road performance is all down to the Ti and ignore all the carbon components is really a vacuous assessment of the bikes capabilities. As I said - awesome bike, just not magical, a bike is the sum of its parts. Beyond the road buzz absorption stuff, I thought your review was excellent and on point. Here’s an actual engineers review of Ti: th-cam.com/video/1CTjg1TFHDc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=JADXmL6UfMVy-G_5
Correct, when we started BlackHeart we could find Ti bikes we wanted but couldn't afford. By designing, building, and shipping from California while welding at the factory overseas we can offer a lower pricepoint for a high quality frame. There are plenty of USA welded Ti frames available as well if that fits your budget.
Thanks & good job. I think titanium is an over hyped and over priced gimmick. It's probably a good choice if you want to signal social status (narcissist?). Therapy might be cheaper. 🤔🤨😉
I'm super thrilled you got your hands on this frame, as you're the steel king! Congrats kind sir.
Ha ha! Thank Patrick. It is something I have been looking forward to evaluating. Thanks for watching friend👍🏾
Bought a Lynskey Helix in April. I have a smile on my face every time I ride it. It is a very smooth ride!
Thanks for sharing your insights William 👍🏾
Love to hear your breakdowns of the product. You have one of the better feels for these types of materials. But no lie the blackheart is amazing titanium bike that takes the classic idea of the bike. And modern look of a road bike today. Honestly very enjoyable ride and nice video!!😊
Thanks Grant. I appreciate your input as well🙏🏾
I own carbon, aluminum, steel and ti. They all have great features, but invariably I'm grabbing my ti off the rack for pure enjoyment.
Thanks for sharing👍🏾
Best road commentator on yt
Thank you for the kind words🙏🏾
Agreed
Amazing review not a stone left unturned i have never ridden a titanium frame but boy over rough roads that's a winner Luis like 85% of our roads thank you i loved the video keep safe Sir.
Thank you always David!
Been waiting for you to review titanium, my brother! I’ve just recently been scratching the itch to get my “lifetime” bike and I’ve been contemplating the Litespeed Spezia. Titanium is so forgiving and beautiful!
As usual, great video!👍🏽
Hey Sean!
Thanks Bro... more to come on this. Can't wait to talk to you about that👍🏾
Zone 2 @ 25-27 mph?!?! You’re a beast! Haha😂
A lot of drafting my friend 🤭
Nice review, I am really enjoying my Blackheart Road Ti so far. I have a different perspective on the cornering, my old Scott Addict (not the Addict RC) corners like a pick up truck so the Blackheart is like a sports car to me.
Thanks for watching Ken. I enjoyed our chat on Saturday. It definitely gave me additional insights👍🏾
I'm very interested in getting this bike in the future. I look forward to seeing your follow-up review.
Man I’m so chuffed for you. The expression and passion is easy to see on your channel. I had a Ti mtb in my younger mounting biking days and loved it. Been on Aluminium and Carbon road bikes lately and now on a much better fitting bike. Look forward to the continued reviews and seeing power numbers too. Cheers
Thank you... I really appreciate that 🙏🏾
I really appreciate your input on riding. On the West coast we have many trails available that provide safe access. Keep up the good work. 74 but still riding
I had a Seven Cycles Axiom with traditional frame geometry. It was very responsive and predictable to rider input. Compared to my steel frame bike, road vibration was greatly reduced and the ride was very comfortable. However, I changed to Seven's hybrid titanium/carbon fiber frame. It absorbed even more of the harsh road vibration, yet has the same responsive and predicable ride as the all-titanium Axiom. Both bikes were purchased on the second-hand market at a fraction their new prices.
Good insights. Thanks for sharing👍🏾
That is cool you ride with the GC guy, I like his videos too. Another great topic, love to see these different frame material takes. Cheers, and ride safe.
Thank you Bill!
Thanks for the review! Looking forward to riding with you and your group someday. Be blessed!
Thanks Jeff👍🏾
Got myself the Ribble Endurance Ti. Disc earlier this year. Loving it.
Nice, thanks for sharing 👍🏾
Another great film! - your descriptions on the miniature of characteristics are superb!
I've always felt that (in general) steel provides a soft flex which dampens the road, aluminum has a spring - as in an energy return or ping when you put power into the frame, and titanium can do both. Carbon can do both too but it depends on the layup (i had a v3rs and that had a ping on initial power put down - now a have a c68, and this has a different ping - when you power 100w over your norm, it has a feeling like a sudden rush of energy being pushed into the rear triangle).
Awesome review! I own a Tarmac which is quick, but due to the geometry not the most comfortable. Seriously considering a Ti from T-Lab.
I'm glad to see this video and hear your assessment of this bike as I have one on order from Blackheart and expect it to be built this week. This will be my second titanium bike, the first being an Airborne Valkyrie with Campy Centaur components. I had bought that one in 2002. I sold that one after a couple of years, returned to steel frame, then in 2018 bought a carbon bike. It's okay as an endurance bike, but I've never felt inspired on it. I think this Blackheart Road Ti is going to tick a lot of boxes and inspire a lot of rides for me.
Thanks for watching. Three rides in on it and there is definitely a strong performance undertone to it 👍🏾
I appreciate your initial description of the frame's performance. When you return it to them, I hope they'll consider sending one of their _7005_ aluminum bikes to review. Thx
Thank you! I wouldn't mind that at all👍🏾
❤ nice review. I ride a Ti bike. Love it😊
And I can see what now👍🏾
neat looking frame! thank you for review and sharing!
Thanks for watching Michael👍🏾
Lively yet vibration immune, conservative-ish turning response ~ right up my alley. I've a Eisentraut rainbow custom steel that soaks up the bumps, yet predictible ~ might have to try Ti :) Excellent overview !¡ Many Thanks.
Thank you for watching 👍🏾
Awesome video! One suggestion is to swop out the wheels to the ones you used on the steel and carbon bikes. I believe the different wheels will have some effect even if you run same width tyres and pressure
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Insane you release this video right after I researched this bike as part of my new bike purchase, ended up getting a ribble cgr ti
Thanks for watching. I have heard good things about Ribble... I hope you enjoy it👍🏾
Original owner of a Serotta Hors Catagorie, comfort defined; ride for hours over any conditions, I'll be fine; made to soak up rough roads & carve descents.
Thanks for sharing your insights👍🏾
Very nice Luis.. i watched GC review when he first got his.. I own a titanium framed bike and steel frame all have slightly different ride feel and qualities 😊 Pete 🚴🏻👍
Thanks Pete! I am looking forward to exploring the differences
It is the riders that makes the difference!! on the righteous bike.!!! As the world turns!!
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I put my carbon Pinarello Dogma F8 on the trainer and ride a ti Moots road bike with 33mm tires. Vamoots CRD is the most enjoyable, satisfying road bike I have ever owned or ridden.
Thanks for sharing your insights Randall👍🏾
Hola! I’ve watched several of your videos. New to your channel. Was looking for a video of were you might explain what got you into cycling, how long you’ve been doing it. What your spouse/family thinks of it. What you wished you knew then that you know now about the sport. Thank you for all videos and wealth of knowledge. Bendiciones a usted y a su Familia.
Gracias por los buen deceos y bendiciones a la Familia.
I have thought about doing something like that many times but never really did. May be a good time now. Thanks for watching 👍🏾
Thanx for your Steel Frame Bike Videos. They are insightful. I've always looked at getting a Titanium Bike, but cannot afford my dream Van Nicholas Ti Bike. There is still quite a few Litespeed Ti Bikes available 2nd hand in my country, so will probably look at those. But ultimately my dream bike is a Van Nicholas.
Nice! Thanks for sharing that👍🏾
You're right m8, it's not beautiful. It's freaking Gorgeous! 😍
Ha ha.. true 😂
That's a nice swimming pond out back of your house to cool you off after a ride.
Yeah... no one is going in there. I haven't seen a gator in there, but I am sure there are snakes😳
I’m looking forward to along term review on this road t
Thanks for watching. As am I. Every ride on it is a new discovery👍🏾
A big downside of the large diameter seattube is the increased stiffness of the seatpost compared to a similar 27.2 mm one. A 31.6 mm seatpost is typically 82% stiffer than a 27.2 one, whereas a 34.8 mm one is 168% stiffer than the 27.2 one - for identical constructions and wall thicknesses, of course. Therefore, to achieve a similar degree of flex and comfort, one would have to engineer the larger diameter seatpost with much thinner walls, which is often not the case.
Besides the maths, I own a Ti frame with a 31.6 mm seatpost, and I had to dig around a bit to find a carbon seatpost that is as comfortable as the previous 27.2 mm one I used to ride. Using a shim is always an option to that end, allowing you to use a 27.2 mm seatpost, although it is a bit of a bodge, adds quite a bit of weight and ruins the overall aesthetics of the bike a little - not to mention you need to be careful with aluminium and carbon interfaces as they chemically bond if anti-seize compound is not used.
Which seat post did you go with?
@@randomname8442 for starters, a scarcely known one, Massi MSP-304. Well-known comfortable carbon seatposts (such as Syntace P6 Carbon HiFlex) were way too expensive for my budget. I may upgrade it in the future to something else - perhaps a titanium seatpost if I find a reasonably priced one with zero setback.
Nice post! Thanks for sha5your knowledge 👍🏾
@@randomname8442 (somehow my previous answer disappeared) I am using a hardly known Massi MSP-304. I looked into more expensive and more well-known comfortable seatpost options, such as the Syntace P6 Carbon HiFlex, but they were way too expensive for my budget. I may upgrade it in the future for a titanium one, if I can find a good quality one with zero setback for a decent price.
Thanks for the comment. 28-30mm tires running at 70-80 psi negates the need for a flexi seatpost. It's something we tested to confirm and prefer the aesthetic.
I ride a steel and carbon bike and Ti will find a place in my stable.
Thanks for the review! Never ridden a Ti bike before, curious how would it feel. You looked very close to the handlebars at 4:31 with maybe a bit of toe overlap?
Such a clean looking frame. Loving the short seat stays, I imagine it really stiffens things up and helps with cornering. Not a fan of the massive head tube but understand the need for butting the larger diameter tubing and additional spacing to hide the cables. I wonder what costs more aerodynamically speaking, being able to hide the cables of the massive head tube? Reminds me of the Lynskey R500 a bit. Great review and looking forward to hearing more about the overall performance of the frame.
Thank you Sir!
Beautiful bike!
Thanks for watching 👍🏾
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Welcome to the Ti club
Great video man I thought about titanium just so expensive better make sure it’s the right choice right absolutely love the Bike for the amount of money you pay for it
Thanks for watching Steven!
Now for a titanium frame with Campagnolo 12 mechanical, either rim brakes with clearance for 28.
Did it. Walty custom frame, Low BB height, full internal cables, medium diameter tubeset, Chorus 12 32-48 crank, 11-32 cassette, Churus 12 group, TRP CX84 Vee Brakes, Vision KOM carbon wheels, Clement 32mm tires, Redshift suspension Post and Stem. A full suspension equivalent at under 18 pounds. 71 degree headtube, 76 degree seattube. Super stable and quick, The redshift stuff soaks up any bumps.
That would be slick👍🏾
Was looking at Ti, bike shop suggested considering a Cannondale CAAD13 vs an entry Ti bike. Any thoughts? Linskey Moots Litespeed?
Love the bike
May i say i ride a Condor Squadra alloy central triangle only forks carbon with the back triangle fully carbon also made in England.
I've heard good things about Condor👍🏾
Cant comment on Black Heart but I own a Moots Vamoots CRD and is the best bike I have ever ridden.
Can't go wrong on a Moots. Thanks for sharing👍🏾
Guy I ride with has a Vamoots for a long time. He's on a Canyon Ultimate now. So much faster
Guy I ride with has a Vamoots for a long time. He's on a Canyon Ultimate now. So much faster
My Titanium Litespeed rides sweet. But also love my steel bike....
I always loved Litespeed!
Nice video! Ti attribute light weight!
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Hi there! What specific groupset is installed?
Beautiful frame, just wish it was made in USA
Thanks for watching 👍🏾
@@thegoodwheel Always, truly love your videos and thanks for sharing. You are right about the rain. I am down the road and non-stop rain here in Miami as well.
Thanks for the comment. Although we have our frames welded at our factory overseas, we design, build, and ship out of Truckee, CA, employing local folks right here in the USA 🖤
@@blackheartbikeco thank you 🙏 for the additional info
This is the video i was waiting for. So happy to see that you got your hands on a high quality titanium setup. Excited to hear even more of your thoughts after more miles. 🫶
Thank you Michael! We've gotta compare notes on the distinction of steel as well. 👍🏾
@@thegoodwheel Any time my friend.
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Very interesting review and thanks for sharing, this is first time I heard of this brand. Rode a GT Edge titanium back in 2008 equipped with dura ace 7800 and zipp 808 wheels , the bike was responsive and predictable in handling but I found titanium a little bit too springy. Another time in 2010, I tried an Independant Fabrication Crown jewel made of Reynolds double butted titanium, like the GT the bike was responsive and predictable in handling but more stiff than the GT however I didn't find the sensations I have on my steel or aluminium frames. Does blackheart use Reynolds double butted titanium tubes??
Not Reynolds, but yes double-butted 3-2.5Ti
Hey George. Thanks for sharing your insights👍🏾
The most impressive thing to me is to ride 65 miles over hot Florida pavement at high bicycle speeds and to feel relatively fresh afterward.
It was a good day on the bike👍🏾
Hi! My other comment about titanium bikes (I’m like the main advocate for Ti on TH-cam) 😂seems to have gone missing? I was just saying if you want any help or advise let me know. 🙂👍🏻
Absolutely. Thanks again
I would absolutely not consider this bike just from the seatpost size alone. My Supersix Evo corners like a F1 car.
What does it weigh? What is it like up a 15 mile 9% grade climb
I have a question for you if you do not mind to answer. I really like to know what bike geometry that provides comfort to ride. Both steel and Aluminum. I own a Trek Domane -year2023, I find it uncomfortable to pedal even though it is considered an endurance bike. I also have other touring bikes that are more comfortable to ride. I like to purchase another road bike in the future but i want to be sure before I spend the money. I am only interested in steel and Al frame. Thank in advance.
Thanks for watching. I am not sure of the answer, as geometry varies by frame size. A frame builder or bike fitter can better answer that question.
Looks well set up from the start. Would you want to make any changes or leave it as it sits?
Thanks for watching. I did swap the saddle because the Fizik it came with didn't suit me.
Only other thing I would've considered is the front chain ring... but I am not sure yet.
Oh yea I totally understand about the out of place look smaller diameter tubes cause with bigger head tubes. That actually looks really good!
The ever so slightly slower cornering I personally prefer cuz I don’t like that “wobble” effect extremely aggressive bikes have!
I feel ya with the rain, it’s been bike rollers almost every day for me here too!
Thanks for your insight. Yes, fortunately, we got a little break to get a ride in this morning 👍🏾
Is your position on this bike, relative to the center BB, the same as on your other bikes? Specifically, are you sitting more forward over the BB, because of the zero offset seatpost in addition to the STA at 74 deg?
It could be. I'll know after a few more rides and cleansing my palet by riding my other bike. Numbers look fine, though.
I had to swap out the saddle, so I'll see after that.
Thanks for watching 👍🏾
We offer 0mm or 20mm seatpost offset seatposts included in the price of the frameset.
Hey. I like steel but I find it is up there in price as Ti so I'd get To because it is lighter.
Good insight. Thanks for sharing👍🏾
I own no "true" road bikes and zero CF framed bikes. I ride my CX and gravel bikes (Ti, steel, alu) on paved surface rides.
I knew it was just a matter of time before a nice Ti bike made it into your stable to ride and review. Lol. Great looking bike and dope initial review as well. Looking fwd to you long term impression!
Thank you Sir! I appreciate your very nice sentiment🙏🏾
Вітаю. Ваш ентузіазм просто чудовий! Привіт з України.
You know I've never even really considered a titanium bike. I've always considered it to be out of my price range, or too pricey for what I would get. Does that bike have a carbon fork? like a lot of aluminum bikes you want to get a carbon Fork to dampen the vibration.
What about steel bikes, I've never considered Steel bikes, do you normally get those with a carbon Fork as well?
Comes with an ENVE In-Route Road carbon fork 🖤
Hi Lexington. Yes, I do use carbon forks on both of my steel frames 👍🏾
Are the numbers of people on the Black heart because they are being sponsored to ride it or did they all buy it? Because that’s an impressive win for titanium if that’s all new titanium customers! 😳
Two people I have spoken to, one bought the complete build, the other bought the frame and built it up. The others... I don't know. But yes, it is hopefully a nice growing trend 👍🏾
Thanks for watching
Thanks for the comment. These are customers, except for GC who is a dealer. Swing by Bicycle Generation in Deerfield Beach to see one in person 🖤
@@blackheartbikeco I would love to but that would need a 13 hour flight! 😅 But if you want to send me a bike for review I wont say no. 😁
Robust Compliance... Soundslike a great setup..
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I hope you come out of this rut soon- thinking steel bikes are better than carbon. If that was the case, I'm sure the pros would be all over it. The regular Joes wants what the pros are using.
There has been no point in any video I've made... including this one, where I have said that steel bikes are better performing than carbon.
What is suitable for pros is not necessarily what is best for the average joe. Thanks for watching
Ha, ha. The pros NEVER get to choose the bike they want. Remember Rohan Dennis quitting the TdF over a bike? Contract not renewed. Shoes and saddles are probably the only leeway given to pros. Even then, they often have to cover up the branding if it competes with the sponsors bike. I think there are some great carbon bikes out there, and I'd certainly like to ride them. But the one I own and have no intention of selling is a custom geometry Columbus Spirit. To me, a perfect fit is worth more than saving a few grams. Maybe not the fastest, but a lot of fun and you certainly don't feel rattled after riding on lousy roads. Going down a hill, 40km/hr or 80km/hr -- feels the same. No shimmy and so well composed. Could probably let go of the bars (but never would)!
@thegoodwheel Wow, haha... Luis, in one of your videos, the subtitles actually read "better than carbon?!" I'm not sure if that was just for clickbait, but occasionally you do imply that steel frames are superior to carbon. You seem to recommend steel frames as more appropriate for the everyday, average rider. Yet, the evidence is clear - over 90 percent of the riders in your videos are on carbon frames. I'm just pointing out that there doesn't seem to be a large audience for steel frames. By the way, I have a Ford Model T to sell you if you're interested...hahaha
1st The PROs don't choose their bikes.
2nd Regular Joes wants what the PROs are using because regular Joes are victims of marketing hype.....plain and simple.
3rd How many PROs have ever won a Triple Crown Victory using carbon fiber bikes? NONE/ZERO/NINGUNO. Now, how many PROs have ever won a Triple Crown Victory using steel bikes? ONLY TWO.😉
@@mr.rodriguez3512 Hahaha, I don't even know how to reply to on your comment without dog walking you through the evolution of cycling. But you being butt hurt on my comment is noted.
To me, steel has that springiness that returns the energy back more than titanium. Both are comfortable, but steel reacts better
I agree 💯
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How much is this bike? 💰
I have an aluminum frame.
Great update for me. I considered Litespeed way back but it didn't feel like you described. Back then (+15yago) I was strictly solo typically 70-100 each ride on aluminum. Went to carbon boy what comfortable difference. Should I move away from carbon now @ 66yo I will look @ TI
It’s a beautiful bike, I would be happy to own. Ti is an awesome material in terms of longevity and I have no doubt that your rough road experience was as explained however this would be down to the following: carbon seat post, carbon fork, carbon handlebars, carbon wheels and 28mm tyres. The marketing of Ti in terms of road buzz absorption has been debunked definitively by engineers like Peak Torque and you can’t dismiss the science unless you have a counter argument based on science. As setup, to suggest that the rough road performance is all down to the Ti and ignore all the carbon components is really a vacuous assessment of the bikes capabilities. As I said - awesome bike, just not magical, a bike is the sum of its parts.
Beyond the road buzz absorption stuff, I thought your review was excellent and on point.
Here’s an actual engineers review of Ti:
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Nice b😊ike
Thanks Jaime👍🏾
As the old saying goes, steel is real.
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Buy hand made USA
They are inexpensive because the frames are made in China
Thanks for watching 👍🏾
Correct, when we started BlackHeart we could find Ti bikes we wanted but couldn't afford. By designing, building, and shipping from California while welding at the factory overseas we can offer a lower pricepoint for a high quality frame. There are plenty of USA welded Ti frames available as well if that fits your budget.
Along with 98% of other road frames
Most are...
Thanks & good job. I think titanium is an over hyped and over priced gimmick. It's probably a good choice if you want to signal social status (narcissist?). Therapy might be cheaper. 🤔🤨😉
Thanks for the comment. Hopefully you're able to take one for a test ride one day to test 🖤
Yall gotta give us access to vibranium. Thats even better than titanium ✊🏿
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