ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 มิ.ย. 2019
- If you're interested in more MH content, click here: "MHW: Iceborne - Savage Deviljho | Solo [4'41] Greatsword | TA "
• MHW: Iceborne - Savage... -~-
Moves balanced around players are better than flashy, BS moves that look good in trailers.
I'll never edit anything in Camtasia again.
Library of Babel done by AsteriskAmpersand/*& with help from
Hex, Vuze, Zindea, Wishmaker and NekotagaYuhatora:
drive.google.com/file/d/1l9Dh...
Thank you to Jiangshi, Charizada, Cartman, Gremlin and Goblin for the guest voices.
/ tds_jiangshi
/ jiangshi_x
casa.bonita.tv/fat
Thank you to biggs for letting me use his Pepega s(p)lam clip.
/ 13iggs_
Thank you to the creators of the Nergi and Teo gif:
/ patattackerman
/ zedotagger
MHW modding discord:
/ discord
If you want to support me, you can do it here:
streamelements.com/trueakanto...
TWITTER:
/ trueakantorex
TWITCH:
/ trueakantorex - เกม
![Yoshi Rinrada - 'มาทำไม' [Official MV]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/r41xbfRLkLs/mqdefault.jpg)
I forgot to turn off my subwoofer and my apartment building collapsed.
The godly bass in aki's voice was too much to handle.
XD
@@Wakunafgc that's the joke
@@2HandHangerDunksOnly I'm aware
Yo for real this guys voice is unrealistic you deep. It sounds like it hurts to talk for extended periods of time lol
Let's be honest; the only truly good AT monster...
Was Greatest Jagras.
Say that to his unlockable great slam the telegraph for 2s that one shot you.
@@ufuk5872 Still more telegraphed than Nergi's .5 seconds of "I'm gonna dive into your face and half health you!" nonsense.
@@mrmolo70 ^This.
I agree
Grestest Jaggras was Kulve Taroth all along
Nergigante: jumps in air for 1 second
My team: Fainted, Fainted, Fainted
Disband and Return to base
I beat him solo. Period. I don't even try AT monsters in multiplayer anymore.
Herman Cillo it’s probably the only way. way too much room for failure in multiplayer.
@@redoxam you need a solid team going in, and having friends with voice chat helps.
I have none of those, though I did have some good luck in getting good parties to beat behemoth a couple times.
Herman Cillo my friends are very good at mhw and have played previous titles, but as soon as we fight anything together, we absolutely fail! guess thats the fun part.
i am in the same boat as you for behemoth, got very lucky with my group for that one. no denying you need a group for him.
Yo I almost had a similar experience but I was more careful than the others. Needless to say we lost anyway.
On note of AT Val: You can move him out of his miasma by just leading him to a different part of the map. The miasma won't follow, it'll only be an issue if he puts down more (which then you just move again). You can also disperse the miasma with a flame pod.
He's really not that difficult to fight once you realize you can do this. To be honest he was the easiest out of all the AT monsters IMO.
Yeah AT vaal was easy. I'd always considered him by far the easiest tempered, and AT vaal showed that it was exactly the same for the AT version. The only danger is when he tries to laser you while you sit in camp, cause it's a one shot now.
Hes saying its tedious that you can't negate that tick damage not that hes difficult
And I'm saying you can negate / mitigate / prevent the tick damage.
@@Zedrinbot you still take damage from the tick dmg from the effluvium. Even with max miasma
@@Chrisdish Literally where did I say otherwise?
The effluvia actually has an effect where you can visually see it. If you move to an area where you don't see the miasma, it won't tick constantly.
Literally when he makes a fog cloud that's getting to be too much of a hassle, either disperse it with a flame pod, or just draw him to a different part of the map.
Personally I've never carted from the Dive attack.
You may ask, how?
Simple really...
I've never fought AT Nerge lol.
Can't die from an attack I've never seen.
WeSmart
"THE FUTURE IS NOW OLD MAN"
*Genius*
Redhawkfour that move has the worst hitbox of any of the monsters. I got really mad because i wasn’t remotely close and it killed me the one time i tried to fight it
Belly flop dodge counters all
Akantorx: Kirin is actually a *fun fight*
Me: *BRUH*
BRUH BRUH
All the kirin fights are basically a joke solo tbh
aerial hammer vs Kirin is pretty fun.
Actually with LBG and slash ammo, I was able to down kirin in less than 13 mins.
Fastest time I ever cleared solo with an AT.
Lance makes Kirin super easy, AT Kirin is actually why I picked up the Lance
What if you
Wanted to hunt monsters
But Nergigante said
*PEPEGA SLAM*
You wake up in a carriage, a few tied up dudes around, a blonde guy looks at you and says "Hey, you...you're finnaly awake..."
You wont survive the "Pepega slam" unless u have close to 500 defense.
Me: 200 hp, 480 defense, Rocksteady mantle on
AT Nergigante: Bruh lemme just spam pepega
I run with 441 defense and it doesn't one shot me.
@smsace87 You may get one shot if he gets the sweet spot. There are two active hit box. One during the slam and one when he's pushing down on the ground. I got hit by those two but didn't get one shot still but I was hanging on by a thread...
Hunter activates Temporal Mantle. pepega slam has failed
I had 603 defense and my health was full. It one shotted me
@@TheRookie01010 OH maybe it depends on the group size as well. I played with just my friend and we were able to soak it.
Kushala has to be the biggest offender to me. Half of the fight is waiting for him to land so you can even do any damage. You fight the damn clock as much as you do the dragon.
"What to Say about AT Kushala. *abandons quest* Nothing!"
That is pretty much exactly what AT Kushala is. You dont fight the monster, instead it wastes four thousand years flying out of your reach and being immune to flashes because go fuck yourself, you cant use the item specifically for stopping monsters from flying out of you range for extended periods of time to counter a monster that wants to spend the whole fight spamming Tornado and Wind Pressure combos from a place you cant even hit it.
Master Rank Kushala is pretty much that with flash pod resistance and now he spams mini tornadoes that make his normal ones even bigger.
Abandons quest shoot that basically summarizes regular kushala
Mr Grape Soda tbf Master Rank has nerfed flash to a degree of almost uselessness. I think they balanced his air time compared to AT
What's weird for me is that AT Kushala hardly ever flew around. IMO. He was one of the easier AT Elders. Does that make him a Good fight though? No. No it does not. But it wasn't really difficult. More annoying when he'd make a Tornado, land, and hide in it.
A few things:
1. I did not coin the term "Pepega Slam." People have been calling it this way, well before I even thought of making this video.
2. The fights in MHW are only tolerable, because monsters die so quickly. That's why some AT monsters are so much worse than some of their normal counterparts, despite not changing their behaviour/moveset at all. A good example is Kushala, Teostra and Vaal. To make ATs a truly better fight, you have to change more than just HP and attack stats.
3. I extensively talked about unbalanced attacks in the video, but I failed to mention that a lot of the combat in MHW seems to be balanced around mantles. Once they run out, heck, even while they're still active, flaws become glaringly obvious.
4. I watched a few boss fights from older games I've played, like the Fromsoft games, where attacks can be massive in size, look flashy and can still be easiyl avoided with a well timed roll, block or parry.
5. I wouldn't critique this game so much if I didn't care. I do care, which is why I even bothered making this video.
6. Thanks for watching. Buy my shirt. The one I am wearing right now.
Does ur shirt comes with your odor lmao. Feelsweirdman
Well... jus do like me and the other vets try to play without mantles kmsl I barely use then and do fine jus takes a little getting used to even tho I'm already used to it lol
I just vented the same frustration on reddit www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunterWorld/comments/by6n4m/only_able_to_down_at_nergigante_with_lbg_n2_how/? and then your video comes out... :)
Iframes in Souls games are godlike when compared to MH - you don't need that much practice to use them efficiently. They also are the best answer to an incoming attack in 95% of situations - the other 5% being a parry or spacing due to lingering hitboxes. So efficient gameplay consists of rythmically hitting dodge and R1.
In MH I can't a roar I saw hundreds of times - seeing how speedrunners like you dodge them effortlessly always puts me in awe. But in the end, as MH has lower s, I always felt that it is much more about correct positioning in advance than reacting to an attack with simple input at the very second it is meant to hit you. Hitzones make it even more important. So even though both games have huge bosses, the process of getting yourself in the position of commiting to an attack seems so much different to me. Thus I wouldn't use FS games as an example of MHW shortcomings. Sure, Souls speedruns are much more consistent than for MH, as dodging attacks is much easier and flashy attacks with long animations are rarely used, so you can't really overcommit like with CB's SAED.
Obviously, this doesn't change the fact that some of things in MHW are bullshit and pepega slam and Lunastra random flames are the bullshitiest bullshit this game has. It is amazing how AT Nerg is still a fun fight for me, despite all that. Lunastra isn't.
Hope they will fix these issues in Iceborn
*forging AT Nergi armor set
Friend: What did it cost?
Me:Everything
@Cyrit but underrated
Bruh this gets a like
It really did cost everything I have...
All my Max Portions!
Lol!^^
Funny AT Lunastra story...
So I was going pretty smooth with the fight for a solo managing to survive a supernova and a Teostra bond. She hobbled off into the place with the falling crystals and I absolutely decimated her cause I'm a hammer main and don't give stuns lightly. She started to limp, went to the final area to sleep, and I got off a decent wake up hit. I died all three times after that without landing a single hit
Jalfire the exact same thing happened to me. Did ragequit the game for a few days after lol
With AT Nergi, Kushala and Luna
The safest strat is to barrel bomb/farcaster them after they start to limp
She becomes Hyper aggressive there.
Nah bro. Me and my buddy (we'll call him S) were 2 manning AT Luna. Yes we're not smart we like doing dumb things. It went decently at first. He ran glaive I ran hunting horn for them buffs. It was one of the rarity 8 taroth horns that has good songs to help counter luna, he ran true gae bolg. It took us over 30 minutes of cheek clenching and running around to get her to limp away with 2 carts left. (I was the one cart, got too close then she nova'd when I was at half health) We were both executed in the last 5 minutes when we got her into a corner. She bamboozled us into a trap, because she lept over us, and nova'd again. We couldn't make it out in time or out heal her and ate our last 2 carts
Simple, just dont let her retreat. Crystal burst or flash. Using bow this fight has been the easiest Arch Tempered ive gotten with a one digit time.
Whoever thought of AT nerg backflip slam must be effin sadistic.
That's pretty much the only thing keeping me from beating the little shit. No telegraphing, no warning, just SPLAT dead.
slightlyoutofreach01 this fucker made me use lance only. The only weapon currently that allowed me to kill him without getting fucked by those slams.
I didn't mind AT Nergigante for the most part and even the Pepega Slam. The only thing that is insane is that he gets faster throughout the fight and if you let him get to his lair he is damn near impossible to fight straight up.
@VanHilz yeah, the part after he limps to his nest is the most dangerous imo. Me and my teammates died from losing focus for a moment or bad positioning or because of his questionable hitboxes.
Jus roll towards where he was when he jumps. It's actually pretty easy to do but hard to read if that makes sense. By easy I mean that you can consistently avoid it just by rolling in that direction, but the hard part is being in the middle of a move and then he attacks (or in multiplayer where you don't know who's targeted).
The only issue i have with these AT elder dragons is their nuzzles do WAAAAY too much damage. Don't get me started on Testro, his kind of tracks.
The damage is fine, but when you combine their damage with their speed it becomes problematic. Which is where the problems with AT Nergi and Luna lies. They have VERY tricky hitzones (seriously the worst in the game), they are incredibly fast and their fast rapid attacks hits hard and have one shot potential. That's just bad balancing.
@@knightenchanter7908 takes the fun out of the game...
wait, you mean teostra nuzzle is unfair?.. jesus you just gotta dodge to the side and it won't hit you. AT teostra is the only one i've fought so far tho. But it felt really easy tbh. if the others are as difficult as teo. i don't see a reason why people complain.
@@Toetech0 AT Nerg is fucking hard as shit.
@@Toetech0 AT Teo is no different than Tempered Teo if you take Earplugs. It just takes more time to kill.
AT Luna on the other hand is complete BS compared to Tempered Luna. Dodgy hitzones, her flames cover the whole floor, her nova is just broken and worst of all. You'll often get interrupted by a fucking AT Teo during that quest. So it ends up bring AT Luna+AT Teo v you for some time.
I’ve had instances where I’ve been oneshot with 200 hp 500~ defense
Giving you an F for respect.
I know how that goes.
Tempered lunustra...
@Anima that only helps so much mate. Especially her arch tempered version get caught her in nova then all that fire defense is for nothing, they really need to buff it more so hunters can actually survive stuff like that. Once that nova starts and your right there near it your health bar practically melts away in seconds.
Same here. I Always Play 200HP 470armor + and AT Nerg finished me of with full HP, with a tailwhip. I was so fucked up, I've never tried him again.
@@bongzong9824 Don't give up my dude he is tough but he can be overcomed I recommend him solo he doesn't spaz out as much when it is in a team.
5:19 You forgot that all the monsters read button inputs. It's how they know to roar to cancel your moves. Datto, or prod tested it. Sorry I forgot which one. Great video. Subscribed.
Link please?
@@blackdragon5274 I can't find the clip, but Capcom is notorious for stuff like this th-cam.com/video/laUAgEUunsI/w-d-xo.html
How many times has a monster roared and interrupted a level 3 move? Roared, ran 5 meters pause 10 seconds then start fighting again? Ruiner Nergigante has a roar loop that will run out your meter too. Capcom cheats.
@@blackdragon5274 i dont need a link to know this is the truth. I keep telling my friend this, everytime i do a helm splitter on say teostra , he will full send run across the map even though there is no one where he ran too, and either hit me while im in the air or ill completely miss because he ran away. I call it anti helm splitter bullshit and it happens with other weapons with big attacks as well, they definitely read your inputs. same when you clutchclaw the head and they immediately go into a bit attack
@@omnichron3374 oh, I believe you, I just wanted to see how to avoid it and counter play
@ Black Dragon After Ruiner Nergigante did the roar loop on two different hunts I just started wearing ear plugs. My hunts go quicker because my damage is uninterrupted.
Not a fan of the "difficulty" of late game being Getting two shotted or swiped by bullshit hitboxes. Like, there are a bunch of attacks with great telegraphs....and loads with a millisecond to respond.
If there's no telegraph then you just have to respect that attack and not be there.
They made it worse in Iceborne
@ㅤㅤ dude the time limits in this game are total steaming shit. Fulgur Anjanath investigation threat level 2. 20 fucking minutes to complete it. That’s a smoke breaks worth. Piss poor game design
@ㅤㅤ 50 minutes should be the baseline time limit. Monsters should be more difficult by making the fights more intense by increasing their moveset and speed, not by putting the player on a leash and pumping the monster with bloated Hp and making them hit like a freighter carrying 50 atom bombs. Hp and damage buffing is a symptom of not knowing how to increase difficulty in an interesting way. Its the exact same fight, just more damage and health and less time to do it. That’s why i call it piss poor game design.
@ㅤㅤ for me at velkhana was an amazing fight almost every attack has a big window to hit It and the bug attacks had a big window to use the super man dive and with divine blessing 5 (wich you should have if you use at least two pieces of fatalis gear) she kills you in two to four hour keeping the fight tense
Thanks for this. I’ve chatted with people about the instant slam and while I don’t think it’s too bad the worst part for me is how spammable Capcom allowed it to be. The move wouldn’t be such an issue if there was an some sort of internal cooldown before it’s next use. As it is I’ve died countless times to none stop dive spam. Even with guard 5 and dash juice if you block the first one and he spams the move (which he can and does) by the 3rd slam you are likely dead or close. Don’t over commit is bullshit to, I’ve been hit many times with draw attacks just taking my weapon out- it’s like I swear the game input reads the second I do anything it’s dive bomb time.
I'm guessing you are using a lance or gunlance? If you have around 500 armor, 3 guard(you can use 5 if you want to) with 3 divine blessing you garanteed won't die by the pepega slam. Using this setup you can also block the dive attack with almost no dmg done to you + you dont need Guard Up gem. The slow slam from standing up attack still hurts but the rest will only scratch you! :) I'm also using three health augments on my gunlance. And everyone, remember to move while blocking to let it regain stam in between the hits. Thought I'd let all people with shields know about this setup. It works great!
@@DrowsyPotato I can attest to this. Beat him first try with one cart using my trusty Gunlance
the funny thing is that, his quick instant spammed pepega slam is stronger then his long telegraphed big dive bomb.
I don't get pushed back with dive bomb but I always got pushed back a lot when guarding his pepega slam
I used to think that some monster moves can be "too fast" until I compared it to fighting games and listened to Daigo making decisions under 4 frames to react to
@@GuyWithAnAmazingHat fighting games are very different to monster hunter, fighting games are very fast paced so blocking is typically easier and your moves are also faster, in monster hunter, your moves are very slow and can't be fully interrupted along with the fact that depending on your weapons, you sometimes only have the dodge roll/ dive available to evade damage, so you're not just reacting to "frames" like in fighting games, you're trying to find out the exact move the monster is using so that you can time it correctly. So even though you see a move coming in MH you're having to decide what to do and sometimes you're character can't do anything about said move because they're in the middle of an animation. This of course isn't downplaying fighting games, they're really hard too obviously, just showing you that you can't really compare two entire different game genres.
I agree with the theory that the AT monsters were not planned at all, but they found the game was much more popular than they thought, and more people were playing it longer than they thought, so they tried to throw in some sort of content quick fix as sort of a bonus.
Ok but the fact that they just threw that content in there and never fixed it even though they had all the time in the world to do so is unacceptable
I actually like arch Vaal Hazak. I think it's a pretty good way to keep people aggressive. (If they have the Regen augment) plus Vaal is really slow, so it becomes a game of staying as agro as possible.
AT Vaal was a really fun fight and AT done right imo
The only problem I have with AT Vaal is that he has no quick moves. Everything he does leaves him wide open and once you know the fight you can just farm him endlessly while watching twitch. He's the easiest elder and the easiest AT by far.
@@skylineguy376 Then you clearly haven't fought AT Great Jagras. Nah jokes aside AT Vaal Hazak really is the easiest I've fought tbh
@@Bloodhurl67 haha yeah, that greatest chungus is pretty fun.
AT Hazak is my favorite as well, as opposed to sheer stupidity of Lunastra and Xenojiiva and mainly huge disappointment of No-fun-at-all-left-gigante
They artificially inflated the difficulty yes.
I was struggling with AT Teos and Xeno last week because of carting, decided to solo them and it went smoothly. This week when Kushala and Nergi come i thought "Oh this gonna be easy since i have no problem soloing them".
Now i just wish someone to carry my sorry ass.
Wat Dafuq honestly It’s gonna be hard to find good random player. If one is good one probably won’t wanna join other because death count is shared. Solo is definitely better. I found tool specialist and health boost 3 to be really useful in the fight. You can just spam evasion/rocksteady mantle and temporal mantle with tool specialist
Kushala is tricky because wind protection, and AT Nergi is designed for a hyper aggressive positioning based counter style that most people don't use. He's hard, but it's possible to beat him.
AT Lunastra and AT Nergigante: We're the most annoying fights in the series!
Plesioth and Khezu: Yare Yare Daze...
*Hip-checks and Roar Spams you to death*
You earned a cookie 🍪
AT monsters manage to be even worse than those guys :D
AT Luna and Nergi are worse.
Plesioth hip check hit box was ridiculous!!
I dont really get the hate for the plesioth hipcheck. Though i do get the hate for khezu roar if you dont have HGE.
AT MONSTERS BEFORE ICEBORNE: we are the most powerfull monsters in the entire game
AT MONSTER AFTER ICEBORNE: No hunter Please Noooooo!!!
I would insert Karma's devil face to all these Arch-Tempereds with my Master Rank gear.
Leo a great jagras will be tougher than all the at monsters in the game
MASTER RANK AT ELDERS IN ICEBORNE: *chuckles in triple cart*
@@sambathchhum8738 I hope not tbh, Arch-Tempereds are just dumb at best, just like Apex Monsters.
@@jordanwilliam3207 AT Xeno is cool though, only issue is the quest time almost too short for soloing it
Monster Hunter World's difficulty design essentially boils down to "Oh shit, we made the game too easy, time to dump in some unreasonable difficulty!"
Right, I feel like they should have double downed on the accessibility at the very least rather then creating this Frankenstein of a difficulty curve. I'm really hoping Iceborne will serve as a bit of a reset button for them with G-rank pretty much making HR gear obsolete but knowing them they will probably just make G rank versions of all the fights lol.
And past game difficulty is fine? I don't see people crying about the supposed to be good endgame apex and deviants, those fights are even worse than any AT.
Cristobal Mella Apex was pretty awful but I thought deviants were fine. It helped that the design of deviant quests were to just be hunted a billion times so if you were trying to craft and cap the upgrades on the gear you’d know the monster’s fight in and out by the time you got to the actually challenging fights, plus the numerous tools you have at your disposal for avoiding damage at all times in XX/GU ie valor and adept.
@@cristobalmella7949 > Apex and Deviants
> Worse than AT or World Lunastra
Lul.
Deviants would've been annoying if they were chucked into an ordinary MH game but they weren't - Hunter Arts and Styles were equally OP. It's simply a matter of learning and adapting to the new shenanigans that every Deviant's capable of.
Apex were the superior Tempered. Frenzy Virus was a double-edged sword for the monsters and considering how effective mounting was in 4, playing aggressively's hardly an issue.
AT's hardly the only issue World has either.
ATs don’t really bother me but the crossover monsters (extreme behemoth and ancient leshen) with their multiplayer scaling, instant kill attacks, terrible mechanics, DPS checks all with 3 stocks and 4 players meaning even if you play perfectly you’ll still fail regardless, yea that is just unforgivable. Soloing ATs can be fun at times, these guys, not so much
I'm calling it right now, AT Velkhana is going to be some BS.
ikr
Lets hope they remove arch temp system in Iceborn
Or arch tempered fatalis
@@danielz6177 AT fatalis just sounds like a spamfest.
I'm more worried about a super extremoth
@@Chwarzerd super extremoth? Shit I havent tried extremoth yet
You sound like hawkeye gough from darksouls 1 lol
Ahh, Monster slaying, a hunter's highest calling
lmfao yes
There are too many people to respond to individually, but let me say this:
Everyone who watches this video and thinks, without a shred of irony, that I made this video because I think he is too difficult or that I can't beat him, has the attention span and comprehension of a guppy. Takes 5 seconds to go to my channel and see that I've been speedrunning this franchise for 10 years. Heck, I even showed it in the video.
I guess if your head is so far up your ass that you can manually start your bowel movement by talking, then you wouldn't be able to hear and see my points.
Also people seem to lack the understanding of deep combat design. MHWorld barely has any and it shows when you inflate stats.
Telling others to just use more defensive sets or to switch weapons also entirely miss the points I made across the video.
I thought about leaving out clips where I kick Nergis ass at all, since that might make some people think ATN is not that bad at all. Turns out I should've put in even more, considering some self proclaimed "veterans" (something good players would never call themselves) can't even differentiate between good and god awful gameplay.
This video was also made from the PoV of a casual MH consumer and not a speedrunner, so going for the low hanging "he uses no defensive skills, TA runner glass cannon builds XD" fruit is cringeworthy beyond belief. The hypocrisy of players saying "let me play how I want," trying to lecture others to use Defense+ as a workaround for shit game design, while throwing an autistic fit when others tell them that their set can be optimized, without losing any of their precious life saving skills, is unreal.
That being said, 85% of the reception was stellar, so my hope for this community is semi restored. I could make a video responding to comments, but I feel people have made up their minds and even if you tell them that the sky is blue they'll still insist it's diarrhea green, because their gut feeling tells them so. Also, I wanted to educate people about something (I assumed) was clear as day. Apparently not.
Can't believe people are arguing about Cheap One shots being unfair or not. It literally can't be easier than: Non telegraphed one shot = bad. "N-no, I-i never carted to it. I just so happen to have no proof for it, wait, I don't have to provve anything to YOU, I'm a fourth fleet elite :D."
Don't forget kids, don't overcommit, you might get sniped by something at any time. Better stand still and play dead. You might be done with one hunt by the time the sun stops burning.
Cheers :)
Well if you're only going to make a point on the negative aspect of these AT monsters without mentioning the positive point in the actual video, then you are most likely going to get the negative reception out of it. The video don't seem give out much in terms of irony so most probably felt like you were complaining. Then again most are probably not quick enough to catch on to it. Or they just want to watch and judge this exact video without having any relationship to none of your other videos. Which or what ever it may be, I don't think anyone meant to insult or offend you. Well I can't say for all considering the internet is a wonderous place, but yeah I think most are just genuine advices and points.
Happy Hunting!
You might be right in some regards, but there's not much to take from "lol git gud" and "let me guess, you never played older games? huh... I'm a veteran... g-rank will... heh.. eat you alive.. heh" aside acting superior with no basis to do so.
Frankly - you said there is no way to negate the DOT from VH? That is wrong. Use the Torch Pods. They are everywhere for the fight and by shooting them at the ground, you get a DOT safe zone. If you have 2-4 players, you can easily rotate usage and thus completely negate a majority of the DOT over the whole fight - Easiest AT ED.
Torch Pad help with Miasma, not Effluvium. Me saying that they are bad or good ATs, does not mean they are good or bad fights. I like fighting ATVaal, he is not difficult, but he is a horribly laz AT. Stronger Effluvium, that's it? :ok:
@@AkantoreX ''and thus completely negate a majority of the DOT over the whole fight''
This is so cathartic. Better than my therapist, thanks CB daddy
or cb *mommy* ? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
My dude, can you share the CB set you used against AT Nerg?
Jotora wanted to know the same tbh
It's supposed to be Akantor meaning it's got to be a mod. Also, the Akantor weapons are known for very mediocre sharpness and I noticed the weapon had white. So, it's a poor mod as far as that goes. It should only have green sharpness and maybe blue with near max handicraft, but I do think it looks nice.
Chris Farmer Dude, the mod is only visual. The actual stats are from a weapon already in the game, likely Strongarm Horn (it probably reaches white sharpness from handicraft 5)
I'm convinced the devs literally don't even playtest their balancing. They make the base game, people call it too easy, then just jack up the stats and attack and say "did you rike it".
Oh no they do...with the best speed runners. Totes fair.
@Hentai is an Art perfect? Yikes
@Hentai is an Art Some of the newest monsters made it even less perfect then it already was lol
That shit is funny 🤣
Silver rathalos let me introduce my self
???? hes not hard at all ya know??
He was easy as normal rathalos
imho those overtunning difficulty is to compensate the OPness of mantles and force u to take advantage of environmental factors like ledge turf wars or boulders , which is of course catastrophic for TA rule players .
But... Temporal mantle one of the strongest mantles run out in 90 or 60 seconds after active
And It takes 4 or 6 times that time for It to regen. While any AT monster can end you in 5 seconds depending on the attack used.
And the healing system. Dashing and healing makes anything that doesn't one or two shot you into a joke. Ensuring that you are always in danger alleviates this a bit, but, still doesn't remove the healing problem.
Which is stupid. How does this do anything to temporal mantle? The only thing I can think of is 'for part of the fight you're invincible so for the other part it's just harder to compensate' which is just... Not good game design when you can cart within ten seconds.
This not reducing the effectiveness of all mantles, it is just forcing everyone to go temporal since it becomes the only sane choice.
@@sploofmcsterra4786 If temporal didn't exist, players would be idolizing rocksteady
Actually the mini dive bomb is not as deadly as the tailspin nergie does in stage 3 which can cart an entire team..
Tailspin killed more of my teammates than anything else.
Actually i think AT Vaal Hazaks more deadly miasma was a great additon to the fight, really highlighting the destructive nature of the creature. Yes, it was somewhat annoying to deal with, but it made the fight much more interesting. Vaal is definitively on my good list
I found it introduced a neat aspect of positioning, balancing your entry into the effluvium with avoiding the beam attack. Yeah, kinda annoying, but it was neat and not that bad.
Also since all his attacks are super broadcasted and slow, if he didn't have that he wouldn't ever hit you with anything.
Especially alone, as he's much harder in a group.
Aerial Glaive is how you do it to em. Aerial Glaive drags on the fight but its really safe since you can yeet over pepega slam and most of his moves.
Fight is about 23 minutes of MonkaS.
The thing i hate aabout AT monsters is not the hyper agression, it's that they spam one move over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.
This video taught me an awful lot, not just about the monsters, but about how you can charge the Sword too.
If you are trying to learn charge blade you should look up the guide by arrekz gaming. He goes over everything.
Could someone tell what charge blade is that pls. It looks cool, is it modded?
KitsuneMysticAnimations some damn facts I’m looking through comments rn
Its Akantor mod If Im correct
KeyVein Libz18 thank u so much.
@@MysticKitsune24 no prob
Vaal's not too bad. You just need to kite him out of his effluvium cloud once he puts it down.
If you can handle regular Luna, AT Luna is fine, with one MAJOR exception that anyone can guess. Bring wind resist, Astera Jerky, and spam Panic Dive.
For Kush, save yourself a ton of headaches and solo with bowgun/bow and earplugs for the constant roaring.
Nerg has the Pepega Slam. There's literally no effective way to deal with it. It's probably the single most bullshit move in the whole game.
Hunting horn and high defense for nerg
When you are in doubt, gunlance is the answer..
I got five tickets by doing aerial IG, with a blasting mark on the wings. I know, it's a year old thread, but it's a super easy way to beat him, and what I would consider an effective "counter". Is being forced to change your weapon really any different than having to change your armor to negate wind, just to beat a particularly cheesy monster?
@@joeymac4302 Weapons are drastically different from armor. If someone consistently used dual blades for example and gets beaten into oblivion, the solution shouldn't just be to pick up another weapon, which will probably due worse due to inexperience. If I change my armor to adjust for the monster, I'm still wielding the lance, a weapon I generally feel comfy with. But if I HAVE to throw the lance away for a cheesy-ass bowgun build in order to reasonably finish the quest, then we have a problem.
@@LloydTheZephyrian sounds like skill issue to ne ngl. Who only plays one weapon?
What armor set and weapon is it in the video?
Akantor armour and CB mods
I knew that was the akantor CG
Beat AT Nerg in my first run with him yesterday. After losing 2 carts and finally sending him to sleep, I had to resort to the classic move of bomb-n-run and made countless trips back to camp before I finally bombed him to death in his sleep.
Bruh, that bit with the "just get more defense" analogy killed me xD
I've found if you dodgeroll to the right when he's in the air you can avoid that cheap attack.
For those who want to know what the hell is this charge blade. It's a mod called "Old World Weapon Collections Charge Blade" you'll find it on nexus mod ;)
It's replacing existing weapon appearence
If the shrek instant slam had even a subtle tell I think complaints about the move would almost dissapear
Dark Souls is too easy
MHW: Hold my Max Potion..
@Jace Hill there's no debate, AT Monsters as well as Behe are living hell, whereas in DS you only die if you are underlevelled/underequipped or new to the series (I love both series BTW)
@@wallacesousuke1433
There is a debate, and all of this is complete opinions.
Both AT monsters or DS can be a complete joke if you know what you are doing. Artificial difficulty or difficulty done wrong is not a real thing.
@@TrevDawgRS dont think so, with AT monsters sometimes RNG fucks you up (pepega slam anyone?), they all have massive HP, hit hard as a truck and we can't spam dodge like in Souls games.
Been playing since mh2f. I think you guys just need to git gud lol.
The Tempered and Arch Tempered fights rather turned me off from the game and I'm rather worried about how they're going to factor into _Iceborne._ I'm no stranger to realizing that I need to "Git Gud" when it comes to certain monsters in the series, Fatalis and his ilk didn't go down remotely easily back in the day, but _MHW_ soured things more than they needed to with these monster versions. Tempered monsters are still reasonably balanced, though the incentives for doing those fights over normal versions is (was?) lacking. Arch Tempered tries to address that by adding monster specific gear to craft, but it's still not much of a better "end game" for the player. I'm sure I'll enjoy going through _Iceborne,_ but hopefully they don't carry over the current lazy "end game" design.
ArtumTsumia I agree, and I feel like not killing most of the AT’s (only solo’d 2 being teo and Vaal) I’m not ready for iceborne. Thing is, I don’t wanna bother with arch tempered ED’s I don’t need their gear as I am a gs main with the drachen set. However, part of me is saying I shouldn’t get iceborne as the difficulty spikes would just fly up.
I agree with this. I remember when Lunastra and Kulve Taroth premiered, I was worried about the direction of the game, then Behemoth worried me more, because Kulve and Behemoth were just time sinks to keep player count high. I remember finished AT Teostra and just being absolutely fried with the game, I took a break and then I read about Behemoth(Extreme) and I officially was done with MHW until Iceborne. They've cranked up the artificial difficulty so high in MHW with the AT content, that people just play the most broken build they can find to cruise right through it. I mean, I just don't see a point in playing MHW when I can't play a weapon I enjoy because it can't speed run a monster.
@@BlackShield24 bro i am using the lunastra set with defense upgrades and damage decorations plus fire defense decorations(40 fire defense)but i was fighting against the event tempered lavasioth(the One that drops decorations) but i was killed by 1 or 2 hits This isn't fair at all why is this game trying to punish US so much i have good gear i am also using demon drugs etc but nothing works ,the normal lunastra is op her final attack (supernova)covers all the map if you are close to her you are dead She can also kill you with One or two hits yes her normal version(behemoth is op too),lmao This game artificial difficulty is annoying i quit
@@isidorodaviddoro1920 The introduction of the Temporal Mantle is part of the problem here and I imagine all tied together. I'm not certain if they made the end game so strong because of the mantle or if they made the mantle because the end game is so strong. Regardless, it's something that is going to vastly impact the balance of _Iceborne._ With a few exceptions, the various specialized tools have always been optional and players have had a decent amount of choice in which they equipped. I'm not too certain how they can correct for that in _Iceborne_ outside of removing or reworking the Temporal Mantle completely.
@@ArtumTsumia Good news, they've already nerfed it. The time has been increased to 120 seconds, but each time the effect is triggered the remaining time is reduced by a significant amount. This means that now you only get a maximum of five free dodges before the mantle runs out.
What is that chcargeblade you’ve been using throughout most of the vid?
Well personally, Lunastra's nova made me stop playing already before that AT was a thing. Doesn't look like I missed much.
These AT/Tempered have kinda made me lose interest for the game
Can I introduce you to the superman dive and Astera Jerky. Completely nullifies her Nova.
Additionally fire resistance and wind pressure resistance if still having trouble.
Yeah, besically the game is now a service game for tryhards.
@@werecoth No need to, and it's still a shit designed attack. Teostra's Supernova in 4U is still infinite times more managable than that RNG based Hellflare.
So I'm curious how do players that had to deal with hyper monsters in gen vs AT monsters what do they think about the difficulty and is it equal? Was that unfair too?
It was but somehow i don't see any video about it, these players are biased agaisnt MHW because now it has content as hard as past games while still beign fairer in general.
I hope I’m not a bother or being an idiot but what was the weapon and armour called that he was using during the video? Thanks in advance!
This is amazing. Loved it.
instead of attempting to give my 2 cents on a feature i have not dabbled in since i disagreed with the direction of ATs from the beginning, i'll just say this:
Thank you for being our Sapphire Star habibi
I liked vaal as it actually made me notice his gas mechanic. Additionally the health boost prevents him from just getting owned to quick. He's one of the ats I like most under xeno and others of course burn had fun
You have the single deepest voice I've ever heard a human have
Red Pepper and me :)
now how will nergigante work on G-rank(Master rank)
FUCK that!
hopefully a somewhat revamped moveset
I don't think ATs are fun. Hopefully something different happens with IB.
They don't always carry over systems and such from prior Monster Hunter titles, so they might not bring AT/Tempered into Iceborne.
I greatly dislike AT but I did really enjoy AT Nergi
Depends on how you approach them, and the quality of your team if you have one. Imo, the hr requirements for them should all be 100. Whenever I join an SOS that has someone under 100, I've found that it's almost guaranteed they are going to cart twice in minutes.
So, I was doing AT Teostra Quest yesterday and he sorta "stuck" in a loop of running away, running at me, running away, running at me.
Worst part was, he was running at a wall... while I was near that wall, so he kinda booped me to death with his leg. It was weird.
Great video, well explained :)
What charge blade is that you are using?
Tbh.. i think this is my first time seeing AND hearing a speedrunner roast on monsters, also at luna vs glaive too OP
More like whining
@@Walamonga1313 yo wala sup! You like illuminati appearing as far as thy eye can see
@@dan4455 Lol only on certain topics
@@Walamonga1313 hows your thoughts ma dude? After watchi Iceborne E3?
@@dan4455 Ehh they showed little but it's exactly what I expected. I'm guessing they'll spread info out throughout June, July and August to keep people hyped. E3 demos were a fun watch (and informative at least a little) but man were they cringeworthy. But then again, all E3 showcases are cringy 😂
Pepega
How do i make to see the ps4 keys in pc, i mean, i play with the ps4 controller but i see in game xbox keys, is there a way to change that?
Whats your opinion on Hazard and Risen Monsters?
Seeing someone as good as you confirm the ATs are hard saved my self esteem. Damn you AT nerg!
I kinda did like the challenge tbh like I found him piss easy with a gunlance but I hated him with a charge blade
I did him sub 12 minutes with no carts on my 3rd try. You need to pump out dps in the first two phases. In his 3rd and 4th phase you gotta respect his moves and attack conservatively. I used CB.
The guy who punishes every single monster that have existed in the game, is complaining about monsters who have punished every single player in the game. You know this means his words are truth and isnt just a "gitgud" comment
Every single monster in this game other than its arch version is a joke. Hunters are way too powerful in this world weapon doing too much damage and having op mantles. Before world you can’t kill a high rank monster with in 2 min with high rank gear. Now monsters are just meat stand there for you to farm. Normal tempered elder dragon takes you less than 5 min to kill. They have really little health and flinch 2 every attack from the hunter. Before you go to high rank or G rank in the game where it’s the highest rank there are no health scaling. You fight multiplayer health alone all the time. Every G rank monster are hitting fast and hard and having huge hit box.
I can give you Val and Luna are bad fights because you can’t dodge the dot. Arch Kirin is a joke because of the mantles. This is the only really good fight in the game rn. Punish you for being unskilled and unlucky. You have to use your item to do this fight and you are always on the edge of your seat. This is the only fight feel like a difficult boss in monster hunter. So if you don’t like this kind of experience monster hunter isn’t really your game. Or just don’t fight this one. If you really can’t solo a monster like this. What’s that one or two attack gonna help you from the nergi Gama gear anyway?
@@Millet117 aight, I never said i didn't like or hate it, im just saying the video is nice considering mhw is less difficult than the previous iterations.
@@tyrantking2322 yea he got some good point but at the same time this game need hard and op monsters. i still remember back then when i play MH2G when i spend all my meds and items to fight a monster and the feeling i had when i thought i was gonna fail but suddenly the monster died after 45 min.i feel like im a small human and try to kill these big powerful monsters and i accomplished something amazing. now i feel like im just bulling these poor animals untill this fight. after 1 whole day of dying i finally killed it for the first time, i felt really good and now i can kill it faster and faster that feeling is why i play this game. i wish in iceborn they have more fights like this one.
@@Millet117 nah most if my grip with old mh was its terrible hit boxes so many mission fails to attacks that should have never hit me but still hit some how. all mh games had this but MHFU was the worst.
@@Millet117 I fell you, but the games are evolving, the old formula of MH doesn't work on this days, today's playes want it fast and easy neeed to become masters in no time, I have play every MH released inthe west, and remember mining rocks in caves about 2 hour every week, just mining, nothing more, love the new MHW, in the visual aspects and the lore is cool too, and you hace s point, is too easy, but think about it, MH is a bussines too and they need money and sale the game, so they have to go with the flow, am ok with that hope to play MH 10 years more from now, Regards fella!
I kinda got use to his ground slams after a while, just need the quick response to his leaps.
Only real issues I had with Nerg were:
People spamming flashpods at him just before he did his blackspike divebomb resulting in him having his black spikes for an unnecessary amount of time.
People flashpodding him and the other AT monster resulting in no turf war and two AT monsters running around.
AT Nerg was really fun to fight for me, He gave me an actual challenge compared to the other AT monsters.
What charge blade were you using?!
He modded in the Akantor cb from mhgu
Nergigantes.problem is that he has 5 times the health of a normal neru thats why he is agravating, if his hp was like 15 k it would have been way better
I feel that tankiness is a poor excuse for a challenge.
Just solo him woth a pance and shield jewel. Easy.
@@Saicofake People literally complained every damn time that monsters died too fast and needed more HP
Walamonga 1313 I wasn't though. My most memorable boss fights in games were actually faster but exciting fights.
For instance, I seriously love the fights with Gascoine, Gerhman and Maria in bloodborne. Those fights, while difficult had that sense of 'dance' to it.
AT Monsters are just tanky bossess with no pay offs whatsoever.
To be honest, if tweaked abit, AT Nergi would be a fun fight, but as it is, the fight is just drawn out for the sake of drawing it out.
You said what we were all thinking, I'm glad you did.
Moo 🐄
AT Luna isn't that bad actually. Once you know how her Nova works, she is a LOT less bullshit, because you can actually deny her every single Nova she could ever want to do. If you just want to treat her as a normal monster, yes she will punish you. Like a lot of ER monsters, you REALLY need to grab Crystal Burst vs her. They completely change the way the fight plays out into your favor.
I have to object to AT Nergi's new move. It's extremely easy to dodge if you're on the lookout and you dodge towards his start-of-attack position (where he was when he jumped up to insta-gib you) or opposite to where he lands. The attack has a very nice and precise hitbox, which seems to be a trend with the new attacks that some of the ATs got. I will say that the nice hitboxes are kind of unfair, though. AT Xeno's explosive insanity is actually just a bunch of fancy straws of damage that you can walk between.
What works for me 90% of the time is if Nergi is facing you and slams, dodge right and you'll avoid it
@@mahdude7826 That's a good way to dodge it, too. I hope we get hitboxes this nice in Iceborne.
The problem is that slam could be chained from any attack randomly (except the meteor dive). Combo spammers like Azure Rathalos and Stygian Zinogre give you clear images about what attack would come next after the first attack, AT Nerg, on the other hand, could flawlessly chain any of it's attacks in random with the slam, be it the claw, tail swipe, backslide, or even the first AT slam. While the first slam might be easy to evade, it is impossible to predict the next slam. So, AT Nerg in a nutshell is to worry whatever the slam would come after x attack or not.
@@jordanwilliam3207 oh i know how bullshit that chain is. I main HH and i can never play a buff or cancel in time to avoid it, AT Nerg slam is cheese stinkier than a skunk
@@jordanwilliam3207 I know exactly what you're talking about, but when there isn't a visualization, there's a sound effect. I'm assuming that's why AkantoreX gave a blank image with the roar/grunt Nerg makes when he does the insta-slam. [7:18] It's a unique sound that is your tell for what he's doing (which just so happens to be the insta-slam). One could say it's your only tell for that attack.
This is a the case with pretty much every attack from every monster. Monsters typically make a certain sound while doing a certain attack, and this helps with distinguishing one attack from another when the animations are similar. It's a layer of attack telling that pretty much every game has, but it's something to keep in mind.
Kind of unrelated, but it's almost impossible for me to disagree that when a monster combos, it's annoying. For me, I can't combo the monster when it moves so much, and as a result a combo on the monster's end is not fun. Especially Azure Rathalos, he just flies around and does attacks that nullify flash bombs, so you have to run really far away so he flies normally so you can flash him. Don't even get me started on tempered AR, because that's where a Behemoth style damage check is added with each flash. If you don't kill him shortly after your 4th and final flash, have fun watching him zip zap zoop everywhere for a few minutes while he's enraged. Waiting for him to become exhausted so you can bop him on the nose is the worst. I mean, you could throw rocks at him, but it's still one of the most "I'd quit to go do something else" parts of the fight.
tell me, this active block skill (CB) must be performed by R2+ 🔺 or can you hold R2 and press triangle only when connecting attack incoming?
how do i get this armor and this charge blade skin ??
Yeah please I want to know too
Mod
Very nicely done and articulated well.
Vaal's effluvia clouds are anchored to the ground, not to Vaal itself, so you can easily just move Vaal out of them. It's actually one of the only AT's I don't mind hunting.
Anyone know what charge blade that is? It looks cool, I don’t even use the charge blade but I want it.
"Artificial Difficulty" is the best way to describe Arch-Tempered Monsters
That's untrue. They added new attacks to all of the monsters.
@@kayjay2094 Did you even watch the video...?
Yep, I'm just replying to your comment. Not the video itself. Artificial difficulty commonly known as buffing damage and health and nothing else. Just recommending you change your vocabulary if you meant something else. I never said they were well designed changes but certainly not artificial difficulty.
@@kayjay2094 that's what they did, did you pay attention? They gave nerg an attack that can be spammed and most of it's attacks are rng. You can get one-shotted by the pepega Or it can to half your health.
You could pretty much say the exact same thing for MHGU and it's endgame hyper monsters. Soloing hyper G rank deviljho omegaLUL.
Nope, apex bois
Hyper monsters don't have modified health to my knowledge and if they do, it's no where near as absurd as AT monsters. Further more, Hyper monsters have the unique mechanic of hyper spots which has many applications in the fight. Hitting hyper spots builds hunter art gauge faster while getting hit by an attack from a hyper spot will hurt A LOT. This is way more interesting than a simple damage buff because now you have to look out for certain attacks and it can change at any moment. Hyper monsters can also change the timing of their attacks which can really throw you off. I actually really enjoy Hyper monsters. Tempered monsters can go fuck off for being lazy an boring af. G rank hyper Zinogre is a perfect example of a hard as hell monster that is fun and not frustrating to fight.
@@tonyngo1885 Except that hyper monsters are hp sponges too, and with the random speed multiplier some attacks become instant if they were fast before getting the speed buff, old MH is also not fair in general, it's poorly made by a great number of reasons, especifically bigger hitboxes, clunky camera, weapons are clunkier, etc.
Cristobal Mella I’ve been saying that shit for so long thank you
@@cristobalmella7949 I've never had a hyper monster hunt go longer than 15 mins. Someone previously mentioned Hyper G rank Deviljho but Deviljhos in general are tanky dudes. Old school MH's terrible hitboxes is completely irrelevant to the topic at hand. Name a hyper monster with an instantaneous attack you couldn't dodge. The only instance I've had of that is if I'm getting up from being knocked down and the monster is about to follow up. In which case, an immediate dodge or the use of an absolute evade HA can usually get you out. The fastest hyper attack I've seen is a Nargacuga tail swipe when he is standing still and even then it is managable.
Where can you look up the HP Numbers of the ATs? I wonder.
@thefaten thnx
What ice charge blade is he using(the one that shield lights up blue)?
You can use Farcasters to avoid Lunastras special attack
Yep, although given how she spams the attack, most of the fight is flying away and running to the battle area,
Sucks, man but that's why I don't bother fighting her lol.
@@mekannatarry1929 Plus time between quests to gather Farcaster crafting components. I just crafted all her equipment and haven't looked back since as I find her the most unfair fight in the game.
@@Geo07ism She's not unfair, she is fair but people don't learn her unique mechanics and some people need to build to counter her since she is dofferent to other monsters, if you take the time to learn her you will see how well made she is.
@@cristobalmella7949
Shit hitzones (seriously, the wings for cutting weapons!?)
Hypernova / Hellflare, one of the most RNG attacks in series, requires good Lunastra RNG, or you're screwed. There are multitude of solutions to avoid the Hellflare, but none of them are fixed solutions. As if the 4U G-Rank Crimson Fatalis level of DPS that covers a whole area (as opposed to Crimson Fatalis's, which only covers it's front) isn't enough, they dump those blue flames bursting in RNG. People complained that Teostra's Supernova in 4U was cancerous, then Lunastra's Hellflare is way worse than that.
Accompanying Elder Dragon present in the Quest that will not leave the Quest after the Turf War or Bonding, and can only be removed by slaying it. Two Elder Dragons present in one Quest is something not even Frontier is so mindlessly insane enough to create, except for Kirin. *_Let's not talk about when Teostra enters the fray_*
It is clearly apparent that you're just wearing a fanboy glasses, trying to advocate this kind of shit design, clearly being in denial by calling x things better the worse it is. Foolish, ignorant, and hypocritical player like you should cease to exist because you might destroy the series due to supporting this kind of shit design to be made ever again. Fixed, your view of standards is trash, end of story.
I appreciate the video. Especially the bit about Lunastra. I loathe that monster in it's entirety. Keep making vids
With high fire resistance and full wind pressure resistance even the AT Luna is doable :)
Hey, can anybody tell me which set he has against AT nergi? :)
Don't anyone knows, what charge blade is he using in the video?
Ty in advance
In defence of Nergigante and Vaal Hazak:
Vaal Hazak himself is actually really easy to deal with. The DOT is something you have to manage. This is the whole point of the fight.
Nergigante's new attack is mostly still reactable and easy to I frame due to low active frames. The thing that makes AT Nerg hard is that later on in the fight you always have to bear it in mind.
Agree completely. Vaal is a lot easier when you remember to use torch pods on the regular effluvia that's around so you take less damage from the DoT.
Nergi's backhop dive is so easy to avoid by simply always dodging to your character's right whenever he does it. It works every single time. Being killed by it is entirely a player's fault.
Ive never got hit by that move in the 5 times I've fought it so far. I usually get killed by his tail swipes
can i know what charge blade ure using the skin looks awesom
It's a mod that you can get from Nexusmods
haven't fought this thing yet, Is it possible to do this with a full burst style on the gunlance?
what Charge blade are you using?
Tell me if he reply
Diablos Tyrannis II as always. It's just a skin mod
@@homecomin What mod and the name of the skin? Thanks
@@stanislavnasssonov8742 www.nexusmods.com/monsterhunterworld/mods/1261
It's the Akantor One
I thought AT Val was pretty good. The effluvium was basically not an issue at all even in the tempered version. Making it a threat you have to actually prepare for made the fight feel the way I think it was intended to be.
Truth. That’s what I thought...
“Wow, so his effluvia actually does something now...”
Also what was that charge blade he was using. Iv never seen it before
I had a bigger problem with AT Kushala and Xino than Nergigante honestly. But I was also using a Guard Up boosted Heavy Bowgun, so block everything without even trying. Probably why I had no issue at all.
Why does it sound like you use a voice changer?
What is that Charge Blade you're using?!
Setsuka Sato that’s what I wanna know
The charge Blade itself is just a modded Skin from akantor guys.. should be diablos cb or the new ice cb from at kulve..
Hope i Could help!
What charge blade is he using in the Nerg fight
Its a mod
New player here and I mostly play solo. With master rank gear equipped with okay attack potential I guess and reasonable defensive skill like health boost and divine blessing including speed eating, what are my odds against ATs? I main hammer and I'm not a very good hunter but I think I'm decent lol
Counterargument: Nergigante doesn't seem to have been designed with TA in mind.
While I have insane trouble with Nergi alone (no cat) or without mantles, adding either one (particularly the cat, which I normally hate bringing to almost *any* other hunt)... feels great, honestly.
A common complaint about World in general is that there are too many things that make the game easier. I agree. Rather than creating a fight that's challenging when you handicap yourself to make the game harder, Nergigante seems geared to make the game hard when you use everything to your disposal. The temporal and rocksteady mantles should have never been made. They were, and Nergigante wants you to use them and still feel something of a challenge. The game isn't actually made for TA rules. I think you acknowledged this in your comment and I'm sure other comments have mentioned it, but I think it's still a worthwhile point.
The pepega slam is infinitely more tolerable when you have a cat around, in my experience. It doesn't seem like it was geared for a true solo.
There's an argument to be made that all content should be soloable without any help, but I'm not sure that's possible while maintaining challenge with more to your advantage (multiplayer scaling speaks to this, though I don't think it was implemented properly at all), and technically it's possible to solo Nergi anyway.
On my part, unless I'm deliberately handicapping myself, I find that AT Nergi practically goes down faster than the other ATs. Probably because my runs aren't perfect on the others or anything, but I think ~11 minutes for a normal run is decent. (That was the run when I first cleared him, and by the time the event rolled away, I didn't get much faster)
I think also a speedrunner's perspective is different, having to run it over, and over, and over, and over, difficulty that doesn't feel "fair" becomes more grating, rather than the typical reward a more typical player feels upon clearing at all. For this matter I'm quite surprised you hate Vaal, if it makes sense.
It's all subjective, and I'm something of a masochist, but I quite love AT Nergigante, and quite makes me fear and respect the monster. I want to feel like the monsters have capabilities that I can barely deal with, and realistically Nergi move so fast I can barely keep makes a lot of sense. AT's shouldn't fee like anything less than terrifying forces of nature in my mind, and it's not like anything has been worse than Gogmazios in terms of running around whittling on infinite HP trying to not get one-shot, and I like Gog.
As much as I know it often enough acts like an HP check and there's little I can do, I have largely gotten used to and adjusted to the pepega slam.
Though I've never seen him chain it like he did in your video, that's actually hilarious. I'd probably hate him too if I had to deal with that. XD
Nergigante is one of the few AT monsters I found myself looking to fight for fun after I had all of his gear and the layered armor. I really think he's fun-the ultimate balancing act and culmination of what I've learned playing the game. But then I also like soloing Behemoth.
Just my opinion though.
Agreed. I'm a casual player whose character didn't defeat the base game all that long ago, and hasn't done much afterward (never defeated KT, gotten the new meta gear or anything - don't even have an augmented weap yet). I came back to the game after a month or so of not playing at all just to try soloing AT Nerg, and my rusty butt downed him on the 2nd attempt, only carting once (1st attempt was w/ IG, 2nd was GL). And not from a pepega slam, but because I tried to block through a dive bomb on low health, when I should've sheathed & superman dove. But I did use my palico, and a gajalaka which I refreshed when I had time, after he died. AT Nerg's tough obviously, but much less nerve-wracking with a cat buddy or two around to give you a breather and stay topped up when needed. Behemoth is much tougher to solo imo. What weap do you use for that, cluster bombs?
@@Adeon55 Nah I play charge blade. It's why I follow AkantoreX in the first place, lol. He's an inspiration.
Stage 4 gets to be pretty rough and there's generally just a lot of HP and low flinches to deal with, but doing that gets you really used to the idea of "I will get punished if I SAED, but I have to anyway", so the Pepega didn't come as anything new on that front, even if Behemoth doesn't have many moves that come out so instantly like that.
I actually think (yes because of Pepega) that TA AT Nergi might be harder than TA Behemoth, but I haven't successfully done either yet (no mantle behemoth is pretty rough; cat is take it or leave it), so meh. Non-TA there's no question; Behemoth is much harder.
Jordan William how are you going to have a hard time if you keep good track of the monster and it doesn’t punish you severely? You can’t have your cake and eat it too. Either it hits like a truck, it’s unpredictable/punished openings itself or otherwise difficult to dodge, or it’s not hard. AT Nergi does both at once and I see why people don’t like it but... I don’t have an issue with it. It’s not like you can’t actually keep track of Pepega, it’s that it’s hard to dodge, fast reaction and often you’re trapped in previous animations.
But if it *weren’t* fast like that it would be a joke and nobody would be struggling at all. My greatest issue with Nergi is that his divebomb is basically pointless besides doing me a favor and getting rid of spikes. It basically can’t hit anyone who doesn’t have a shield and it doesn’t punish blocking it despite otherwise being a oneshot move.
If I can trace another huge balancing issue for World honestly, it’s that the Superman dive got unbelievably and unnecessarily buffed from older games. It used to be if I Superman’d on Teostra while he was running around he’d just charge me when the s wore off and kill me. Now it’s just a “get out of jail free” card for basically the entire game.
OK question what is that glowing blue charged blade
Akantor CB but it's a mod
@@nargycu8214 you think it will be available in iceborne?
@@raulhurtado386 If Akantor makes it in the game? Definitely.
What.... I find AT Vaal to be interesting ( might be due to playing as a wide range supportive build); it's a different and interesting way to make him deadly as he's so slow moving already
Plus adamant pills would have been nice to use against nerg....I have tanked a dive due to it on full health, but I have inconsistently died to it while testing it and wonderef if when raged it's instant death, or if it'sdependent on where you take the damage from
What charge blade are you using?