Thanks for making this video! This is the first video I've seen that doesn't seem like strange promotional material. Honest thoughts were exactly what I was looking for.
For those of you who want a quickly removable battery, it might be good to remember that a battery that is easily removable may well be subject to unauthorized removal. Hopefully there will be a rational balance between ease-of-use and security.
it looks super crisp! i feel like they could have used that middle space to allow for an optional extra battery, doubling the range! maybe in the future versions :)
Oh yeah, amazing design! I’m not sure how Sondors was able to pack so many features in this bike. The lowest spec. Zero motorcycle would charge you double for half the features. I can’t wait🚀 THANKS
This is a very nice looking electric motorcycle!!! Congratulations with your new purchase and I wish you many safe miles with it! My advice to you was call or e-mail Sondors and ask them to send you an owners-manual. Also if you would be selling the bike in the future it is always a nice extra bonus for the new owner if you still have the original manual & papers.
I just discovered these things about 4 hours ago and now I'm on a brand new video of one this is meant to be! I love how its designed! Coming from a Goldwing there's not even a slight chance I'd give it up for this. But really want one now.
Thank you for the great service you are providing the rest of us Metacycle owners anxiously awaiting delivery! Sondors should to be paying you or at the least refund your $700 shipping charge.
Nice look at this bike, thanks. I've been really excited waiting for this to actually happen - was worried it wouldn't. The concept looked great, and judging from your video, the real thing is just as good. One thing I'm wondering, surely they'll be making a removable pannier for that big space where the tank would be; seems perfectly made for storage. Congrats on the bike dude, I love it.
Thanks for the nice vid. Got to let us know what the top speed is and 0-60mph acceleration time in your later videos. Also once you drive it more, let us know what some real world range expectations are for city and highway driving.
I ordered the metacycle in December. The website said 100 deposit but they billed my card $5000. I cancelled my order and I have been trying to get my money back ever since. Today they sent me an email asking if I would like to reinstate my order. I guess they think I might rather have the bike than nothing. They are wrong. I know how they treat customers if something fails guaranteed you are left in the cold. These people do not care about their customers at all. I'll sue to get my money back. Better than trying to sue if I get a lemon. Just telling you about my experience with this company, take it for what it's worth.
Pretty good. The only thing holding me back is the battery. If it can be taken out like they claim and brought inside to be charged then I'm in. That's definitely a requirement. And the other bike I'm looking at has swappable batteries that can double as massive power bricks if necessary. Really cool stuff floating around. But I hope they get that instruction on how to let you take it out to customers soon. Removable/Swappable batteries are a must for those in apartments.
Ah nice, yep just said the exact thing "above" got a Sur Ron kept inside no prob. Until condos/apts get up with the times (good luck with that) millions of potential customers are "SOL". I got a coworker who has a TESLA and no charging in his building, wakes up an hour early before work to go supercharge um no, just no. Yes electric needs to be equal if not more convenient "not less"😂. Just sayin, great comment/ thanks for the vid simth -Cheers
You can remove the battery. This guy is still new to the bike hasn't figured it out yet. But i would still wait till gen 3 model. That being said this is the best full size highway speed e motorcycle in its price range. The sur-ron LBX is awesome but tricky to get legal and stock is mopad speeds. The super 73 motorcycle will be nice and should be this bike main competition. There are a long list of random bikes out there but i would stay away from them. Customer support and service is to iffy
@@miguel360kmc I'm still keeping an eye on the 73 though it isn't final. Still might get a District from Land though. It's a toss up. I'll see what owners think over the next few weeks of the metacycle
Thanks for posting the video. I'd like to see a video rolling down the road, top speed and acceleration from dead stop to see how it compares to what they say it should do. There has been a lot of speculation that it won't deliver what they claim. Hopefully you can post anther one real soon now that you have figured it all out.
@@smithlongworth7389 ok that's cool. I didn't realize you weren't able to get it registered yet. I'm just interested before I order one. I just want to learn what it can really do and can't do.
Thanks for the vid. Not sure why Sondors was so secretive about all of this. Either we would like the bike and buy it or not. Thanks for the vids will watch all you post
2 things to change..... rear brake on the right foot peg, motorcycle style... and the weird not being able to have any throttle while brakes are engaged, makes it hard for people that have to stop on a hill......
on/off button is basically kill switch. the bike can be in (D)rive mode but if the button is off, you pull on the throttle and it won't move. i've still yet to find the settings menu.
Thanks for the detailed review! It's hard to believe that the bike didn't come with an instruction manual, either printed or digital, which would include specs and safe operation instructions. This isn't a bicycle, FFS. It seems the lack of a manual would open them up to massive liability.
@@smithlongworth7389, it would be a service to share the manual somehow in case SONDORS only sends it to those with Metacycles in-hand. Not a suggestion for you, just something I'd like to see eventually. I'm Round 2 so am soaking up your experiences and reactions. They are like gold to the rest of us. Many thanks!
Thanks for the video! Some of us have been waiting for a not sponsored look at the metacycle. Do you have any impressions of the 80 mph and the 80 mile range? Is the acceleration good enough around town and on the highway? What are your thoughts about how it rides and feels? Thanks again!
i'll post a video of me riding soon. just gotta do some editing. it'll most likely be up monday. but one thing i can say is 80mph can be achievable on a good day, 80 mile range would only apply to mostly city riding. hwy speeds, the battery will probably only last 25 miles because thats just how electric vehicles operate. the faster you go the faster the battery drains.
@@smithlongworth7389 it is not specific to EVs, it is about physics - the faster you go, the more wind resistance you get. and wind resistance increases in cubic. when normal efficiency is at 40%, with high wind resistance it can be at 30 or bellow, it doesn't really impact your life much, but EVs are at 90+% efficiency, so anything feels much more impactful
I'm a little disappointed that the battery is no longer modular. However I don't think I was going to use that feature much anyway. I'm curious if the top speed's are truely "highway speeds". Can it actually reach 80MPH? Can it do it with relative ease?
i just realized this. it does turn it on and it does turn it off. i honestly don't know the difference between the two other than they're two totally different key fob shapes with the exact same purpose. i'll post more about it on the next video. stay tuned!
Once everybody finds out it is underperforming and doesn't come near Sondors performance claims, I wonder how many people will be cancelling or selling their bike once they get it. Once people get wind of the fact that the 0 to 60 mph time is 11s, and it can only go 25 miles on a charge as tested by an owner with a phone app, it will be hard to sell one.
it's definitely not a Zero or Livewire. if your commute is strictly in the city or around 30 miles roundtrip, this thing will save you lots of time and money. it just sucks the battery isn't removable.
Nice, Gratz!. Ah hmmm, about that battery/ many of us live in apts/condos and plan to take that battery out to charge it inside. Yikes, they literally made a video on doing that exact thing???? for many it will be a "no go" if they; locked down the battery. Well I'm glad went with a "wait and see" approach. Any more info on that battery would be appreciated, have you taken it out yet? -Cheers
Congrats on finally receiving your METACYCLE. I'm part of the first round and I am still waiting on the delivery of my ARCTIC white. I am very disappointed with the fact that they did not let us know about the change regarding the battery not being removable anymore. That one of my biggest reasons for ordering it aside from the beautiful unique styling. Maybe I can sue them for bait and switch lol. Good luck with your META and be safe, thanks for sharing your review.👍
@@klepperkamarad Technically all batteries are removable but it's really about the ease of how its removed. The key lock and unlock setup shown originally was an awesome idea that made me want the bike but now I'll need to use a tool in order to remove it. Not a super big deal but still not happy about how they kind of kept it from us who loved that feature.
Dudes, do you know how many approximately orders are made for the USA, cause I wish to calculate when it is possible for my order to be ready for shipment in the EU? I placed in Feb last year.
Thanks for sharing. No way to remove the battery! 😟 I will have to cancel mines if that's the case. I live in NYC, and bringing the entire bike into my apartment or office is not an option for me. I hope someone with a manual can explain, because this was a feature when I brought this thing, and is a deal breaker.
I was thinking the same thing, I live in Apartments as well so I called them and asked if the battery still going to be removable and they said yes! It’s going to be a little different to remove it compare to the Sondors video, apparently the bike comes with some special tools to remove the battery.
@@luis12396 Thanks for the info. I am still waiting for support to give me an answer. Sounds like it wont be fairly easy or convenient. Also, if this tool does not come with the bike, that's not great. Nevertheless thanks for sharing.
Did you ever figure out how to remove the battery? Not being able to bring the battery in to charge when I get to work would be a deal breaker since it's 90 miles roundtrip mostly at highway speeds.
@@smithlongworth7389 they told me that same line last year, I told them they needed to have an online version before any we're delivered...I bet they will be quick to void warranty...just bad faith at every turn from Sondors...
go straight to DMV. don't go to Triple A. they may or may not inspect the bike. if they don't, they'll make you go to CHP and CHP has a long waitlist and will call you 2-3 weeks to make an appointment and when the two weeks has come, they'll call you and tell you to go to DMV and have them inspect the bike anyway so avoid all the hassle and just go straight to DMV.
@@smithlongworth7389 Thanks for the quick reply! When you get on it next, double check and put it in the video so people know. I was most concerned about the right lever operating the front brake and it having tubeless tire rims. Your videos have alleviated both of those concerns. Thank you! 😎👍
It's a big problem that they made what is normally the Killswitch into the hazards and made the kill switch a button to the left of it. That shit is standardized.
They seriously should of thought really hard on shortening the length of the seat. Absolutely no room for a “backpack”. what if the owner has a partner they wanna take out for a ride. Or running late for work and you gotta drop them off. And I honestly believe they also slimmed down the seat. They can’t possibly think people have an ass that’s going to fit on that skinny ass seat and not hurt or get sore after a few minutes. They should of never shortened that seat.
@@drtootsi My best guess is seat wise you would be good. You might need to change out the bars for a wider set which should be easy. Also a lot of us normal motorcyclists will probably be swapping out the pegs for something of better quality/performance. Thankfully we live in the era of 3D printers and machine shops. So it shouldn't take too long for the aftermarket to fill in the gaps! 😉
Man. The whole point of my purchase revolved around being able to detach the battery and carry it into my office for charging. 🤞there's still hope that doesn't involve a screwdriver.
imagine a prius in eco mode for the first 3seconds to get to 25mph then another 4 seconds to get to 60. its such a light and narrow bike that its kinda scary going that fast lol
new video posting today around noon. i'd say it would last 40 miles round trip if you're actually doing hwy miles. i'm in LA so it's rare to ever be able to go above 55mph. the faster you go the faster the battery drains.
@@smithlongworth7389 I have two electric motorcycles. I know speed is critical to battery range. But the question is what is the real range on the highway when ridden normally. Not what Sondors claims (as they ride closely behind another vehicle to cut wind resistance).
@@smithlongworth7389 40 miles round-trip is half of what Sondors state for the motorcycle. I have a 40 mile ride to work every day, this will not do if true.
@@sparkyfirestarter4301 like he says, range goes down as average speed goes up. So 80 mile range as absolute best case range means going at lower/city speeds to obtain. With a 4kw battery this won't do anywhere close to 80 miles at highway speeds.
I knew that 80 mile range was deceptive with only a 4 KW battery?...right...maybe creeping it at 20mph it probably could....but what kind company does not send some sort of manual for their product???...kind of skeptical about this company and would definitely not be a pioneer on their product until I see some reviews from people 6 months to a year of owning one....
Battery cannot be removed?!!/?! What? You cannot be serious. That may mean they have no idea how to design stuff. They cannot figure out how to make a removable battery - really? That would be pretty freaking important. What else did they compromise?
why won't anyone ride the fucking bike and put it on youtube? Whats the top speed? How fast does it go on the highway? I mea come on everyone has been waiting for this bike for so long and no one wants to give the details about the ride quality? Not specially trying to direct this at you Smith Longworth but come the fuck on.
Not everyone has a TH-cam account, some may not have the desire to even take a video. Also, these things are being delivered before registration and insurance. The videos we have gotten are people riding dirty. Just give it a little time.
Would you rather have waited an additional month for them to prepare a manual before they deliver the bike to you instead or have the bike in hand? This really looks pretty easy to figure out.
@@c2thew yall rich asf to just be spending $6k and not knowing much about what you're buying, the average consumer will tell you that doesn't make sense.
@@kaisoundz The average consumer can't spend the 15k+ on the competition. Besides. I bet the first few of these on eBay go for 50% more than he paid for it.
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Thanks for making this video! This is the first video I've seen that doesn't seem like strange promotional material. Honest thoughts were exactly what I was looking for.
you're welcome! i'll post a riding video next!
@@smithlongworth7389 thank you! Doing blessed baby jeesuses work!
For those of you who want a quickly removable battery, it might be good to remember that a battery that is easily removable may well be subject to unauthorized removal. Hopefully there will be a rational balance between ease-of-use and security.
Seriously thank you so much man for posting these videos. Us sondors soon to be owners very much appreciate you.
Thanks for the very good review, appreciate you taking the time.
Great vid! First i've seen of someone actually going through the bike. Definitely interesting seeing all the quirks. Can't wait for a riding video.
Congrats!! It's beautiful and lovely. I find it a WORK OF ART in 2 wheels. ride safe man...
it looks super crisp! i feel like they could have used that middle space to allow for an optional extra battery, doubling the range! maybe in the future versions :)
Their plan is to sell accessories to fit this space. Rumors are extra battery or storage compartment.
gotta appreciate the work the guys did on roughing up the concrete floor like that :D
Oh yeah, amazing design! I’m not sure how Sondors was able to pack so many features in this bike. The lowest spec. Zero motorcycle would charge you double for half the features. I can’t wait🚀 THANKS
This is a very nice looking electric motorcycle!!! Congratulations with your new purchase and I wish you many safe miles with it!
My advice to you was call or e-mail Sondors and ask them to send you an owners-manual.
Also if you would be selling the bike in the future it is always a nice extra bonus for the new owner if you still have the original manual & papers.
I just discovered these things about 4 hours ago and now I'm on a brand new video of one this is meant to be! I love how its designed! Coming from a Goldwing there's not even a slight chance I'd give it up for this. But really want one now.
Thank you for the great service you are providing the rest of us Metacycle owners anxiously awaiting delivery! Sondors should to be paying you or at the least refund your $700 shipping charge.
Nice look at this bike, thanks. I've been really excited waiting for this to actually happen - was worried it wouldn't. The concept looked great, and judging from your video, the real thing is just as good. One thing I'm wondering, surely they'll be making a removable pannier for that big space where the tank would be; seems perfectly made for storage. Congrats on the bike dude, I love it.
Well ride it,stay safe..cool bike!
Thanks for the nice vid. Got to let us know what the top speed is and 0-60mph acceleration time in your later videos. Also once you drive it more, let us know what some real world range expectations are for city and highway driving.
Sweet. I want one
I ordered the metacycle in December. The website said 100 deposit but they billed my card $5000. I cancelled my order and I have been trying to get my money back ever since. Today they sent me an email asking if I would like to reinstate my order. I guess they think I might rather have the bike than nothing. They are wrong. I know how they treat customers if something fails guaranteed you are left in the cold. These people do not care about their customers at all. I'll sue to get my money back. Better than trying to sue if I get a lemon. Just telling you about my experience with this company, take it for what it's worth.
Nice!
Clean Bike!
Pretty good. The only thing holding me back is the battery. If it can be taken out like they claim and brought inside to be charged then I'm in. That's definitely a requirement. And the other bike I'm looking at has swappable batteries that can double as massive power bricks if necessary. Really cool stuff floating around. But I hope they get that instruction on how to let you take it out to customers soon. Removable/Swappable batteries are a must for those in apartments.
i agree! there's gotta be a way. if not then sondors would lose customers.
Ah nice, yep just said the exact thing "above" got a Sur Ron kept inside no prob. Until condos/apts get up with the times (good luck with that) millions of potential customers are "SOL". I got a coworker who has a TESLA and no charging in his building, wakes up an hour early before work to go supercharge um no, just no. Yes electric needs to be equal if not more convenient "not less"😂. Just sayin, great comment/ thanks for the vid simth -Cheers
You can remove the battery. This guy is still new to the bike hasn't figured it out yet.
But i would still wait till gen 3 model.
That being said this is the best full size highway speed e motorcycle in its price range.
The sur-ron LBX is awesome but tricky to get legal and stock is mopad speeds. The super 73 motorcycle will be nice and should be this bike main competition.
There are a long list of random bikes out there but i would stay away from them. Customer support and service is to iffy
@@miguel360kmc I'm still keeping an eye on the 73 though it isn't final.
Still might get a District from Land though. It's a toss up. I'll see what owners think over the next few weeks of the metacycle
The battery slides right out very easily actually.
Yes, what are button functions of the key fobs ?, and a closer view of the orange cord. 1st Rounder.
Thanks for posting the video. I'd like to see a video rolling down the road, top speed and acceleration from dead stop to see how it compares to what they say it should do. There has been a lot of speculation that it won't deliver what they claim. Hopefully you can post anther one real soon now that you have figured it all out.
working on it. still waiting for them to give me the right MCO with the right VIN on it so i cant register it with DMV yet
@@smithlongworth7389 ok that's cool. I didn't realize you weren't able to get it registered yet. I'm just interested before I order one. I just want to learn what it can really do and can't do.
thank you!
Thanks for the vid. Not sure why Sondors was so secretive about all of this. Either we would like the bike and buy it or not. Thanks for the vids will watch all you post
I think the on /off button on your right handle bar is for your regen.
no
The on/off button is the kill switch. You can make it go into drive mode by squeezing the brake.
2 things to change..... rear brake on the right foot peg, motorcycle style... and the weird not being able to have any throttle while brakes are engaged, makes it hard for people that have to stop on a hill......
i agree.
cool bike man
thank you ☺️
Thank you. Appreciate the video.
Did you figure out the on/off button on throttle side?
Have you managed to get into the "settings" menu?
on/off button is basically kill switch. the bike can be in (D)rive mode but if the button is off, you pull on the throttle and it won't move. i've still yet to find the settings menu.
Pressing buttons while turning the throttle with the same side hand. They need to put those controls on the left side.
Thanks for the detailed review! It's hard to believe that the bike didn't come with an instruction manual, either printed or digital, which would include specs and safe operation instructions. This isn't a bicycle, FFS. It seems the lack of a manual would open them up to massive liability.
they sent me an email today saying they're preparing quick-step manuals for customers. but for now looks like we have to figure things out on our own.
@@smithlongworth7389, it would be a service to share the manual somehow in case SONDORS only sends it to those with Metacycles in-hand. Not a suggestion for you, just something I'd like to see eventually. I'm Round 2 so am soaking up your experiences and reactions. They are like gold to the rest of us. Many thanks!
What kind the motor and power?
first, congratulations on your new bike...
i just wanted to tell you to look for the trip button behind the dash, I think it's there...
thank you! i'll look when i get home
@@smithlongworth7389 Any word on a trip button? Seems odd that the bike resets to 00 every time you turn it on.
How do you like wireless key compared to generic key? How do you place the bike to park mode?
Press D. key fob is fine
Thanks for the video! Some of us have been waiting for a not sponsored look at the metacycle. Do you have any impressions of the 80 mph and the 80 mile range? Is the acceleration good enough around town and on the highway? What are your thoughts about how it rides and feels?
Thanks again!
i'll post a video of me riding soon. just gotta do some editing. it'll most likely be up monday. but one thing i can say is 80mph can be achievable on a good day, 80 mile range would only apply to mostly city riding. hwy speeds, the battery will probably only last 25 miles because thats just how electric vehicles operate. the faster you go the faster the battery drains.
@@smithlongworth7389 it is not specific to EVs, it is about physics - the faster you go, the more wind resistance you get. and wind resistance increases in cubic. when normal efficiency is at 40%, with high wind resistance it can be at 30 or bellow, it doesn't really impact your life much, but EVs are at 90+% efficiency, so anything feels much more impactful
I'm a little disappointed that the battery is no longer modular. However I don't think I was going to use that feature much anyway. I'm curious if the top speed's are truely "highway speeds". Can it actually reach 80MPH? Can it do it with relative ease?
it can probably reach 80mph but it'll take a while to get there. i wouldn't take this on the hwy for commutes longer than 40 miles roundtrip.
My biggest question:
Is the seat big enough for a passenger?
it might be able to but i don't even know if there's an accessory for the passenger pegs
@@smithlongworth7389 On their website they say passenger pegs are an option, but the seating room doesn't look like enough to me...
Nice! Wish you spent a tad bit more time on the key fobs tho. What are the differences and does it really start up the motor?
i just realized this. it does turn it on and it does turn it off. i honestly don't know the difference between the two other than they're two totally different key fob shapes with the exact same purpose. i'll post more about it on the next video. stay tuned!
@@smithlongworth7389 thanks 4 tha reply
@@smithlongworth7389, one could control the alarm. Damn, where's that manual !!!
Once everybody finds out it is underperforming and doesn't come near Sondors performance claims, I wonder how many people will be cancelling or selling their bike once they get it. Once people get wind of the fact that the 0 to 60 mph time is 11s, and it can only go 25 miles on a charge as tested by an owner with a phone app, it will be hard to sell one.
it's definitely not a Zero or Livewire. if your commute is strictly in the city or around 30 miles roundtrip, this thing will save you lots of time and money. it just sucks the battery isn't removable.
I hope it lives up to all the hype better than that POS Sondors Madmods ebike I bought.
Nice, Gratz!. Ah hmmm, about that battery/ many of us live in apts/condos and plan to take that battery out to charge it inside. Yikes, they literally made a video on doing that exact thing???? for many it will be a "no go" if they; locked down the battery. Well I'm glad went with a "wait and see" approach. Any more info on that battery would be appreciated, have you taken it out yet? -Cheers
Does it smell like that new car smell?
Congrats on finally receiving your METACYCLE. I'm part of the first round and I am still waiting on the delivery of my ARCTIC white. I am very disappointed with the fact that they did not let us know about the change regarding the battery not being removable anymore. That one of my biggest reasons for ordering it aside from the beautiful unique styling. Maybe I can sue them for bait and switch lol. Good luck with your META and be safe, thanks for sharing your review.👍
I'll bet the battery is removable; give Smith some time to figure things out...
@@klepperkamarad Technically all batteries are removable but it's really about the ease of how its removed. The key lock and unlock setup shown originally was an awesome idea that made me want the bike but now I'll need to use a tool in order to remove it. Not a super big deal but still not happy about how they kind of kept it from us who loved that feature.
Was that the Ludicrous mode at 10:22 :o like space and time paused and the bike went from one spot to another spot faster than sound :D
It didnt come with a manual? what? Still a great video, looking forward to more from you and others to see if these bikes live up to the hype
they emailed me saying they're "preparing quick step manuals" for current customers. kinda weird but what ever.
Dudes, do you know how many approximately orders are made for the USA, cause I wish to calculate when it is possible for my order to be ready for shipment in the EU? I placed in Feb last year.
you gotta call or email sondors. i bought mine a month after they first announced it last year
@@smithlongworth7389 thanks
How fast have you gone one it? How much power would you say it has when compared to normal bikes? More riding videos and impressions plz!
67mph top speed for me so far. it's definitely in the range of a 350-400cc motorcycle.
IMHO, SONDORS METACYCLE = BEST E-MOTORCYCLE FOR THE $ MONEY $....
Even after bumping the price from $5,000 to $6,000....
i'm starting to like my Metacycle. it does the job in terms of my commute to work which is 15 miles round trip. i charge every three days.
Great video! Bust just out of curiosity how tall are you? I’ve been thinking the height may be to tall for me. I’m 5’6” for reference
5'8.
Ride on it and give us a small clip to see. I want one ordered to Texas.
put up a riding impression video yesterday. th-cam.com/video/R8fkCzvfWTY/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for sharing. No way to remove the battery! 😟 I will have to cancel mines if that's the case. I live in NYC, and bringing the entire bike into my apartment or office is not an option for me. I hope someone with a manual can explain, because this was a feature when I brought this thing, and is a deal breaker.
I was thinking the same thing, I live in Apartments as well so I called them and asked if the battery still going to be removable and they said yes! It’s going to be a little different to remove it compare to the Sondors video, apparently the bike comes with some special tools to remove the battery.
@@luis12396 Thanks for the info. I am still waiting for support to give me an answer. Sounds like it wont be fairly easy or convenient. Also, if this tool does not come with the bike, that's not great. Nevertheless thanks for sharing.
Sharp
Great info, I manual on line?
nope.
Why's the front tyre on backwards?
It's not.
Did you ever figure out how to remove the battery? Not being able to bring the battery in to charge when I get to work would be a deal breaker since it's 90 miles roundtrip mostly at highway speeds.
no idea yet. sondors sent me an email saying they're working on a user manual to send out to current customers
@@smithlongworth7389 fingers crossed it's as quick as in their video 🤞
@@smithlongworth7389 they told me that same line last year, I told them they needed to have an online version before any we're delivered...I bet they will be quick to void warranty...just bad faith at every turn from Sondors...
I am wanting to get a ebike so I don't need to use my car so much. Am using a eletric scooter for short trips but need something for longer trips.
Love evs
Looks like a Buell lighting
Nice bike the only thing is you need to get rid of those turn signals it looks like an afterthought
Is the bike designed for only one passenger? Can we ride with a passenger at the back?
there's no passenger foot pegs. but if there was an accessory, the rider and passenger would have to be really skinny lol
Where did you get from
Sondors
Any issues with registration in CA?
go straight to DMV. don't go to Triple A. they may or may not inspect the bike. if they don't, they'll make you go to CHP and CHP has a long waitlist and will call you 2-3 weeks to make an appointment and when the two weeks has come, they'll call you and tell you to go to DMV and have them inspect the bike anyway so avoid all the hassle and just go straight to DMV.
Is the Right Brake Lever for the Front Wheel like normal motorcycles?
there's no manual that came with it but yes, i'm assuming right lever is front brake and left is read
@@smithlongworth7389 Thanks for the quick reply! When you get on it next, double check and put it in the video so people know.
I was most concerned about the right lever operating the front brake and it having tubeless tire rims. Your videos have alleviated both of those concerns. Thank you! 😎👍
I gather you live in LA have they made any out of state shipments yet?
no idea.
My order number is 1481
It's a big problem that they made what is normally the Killswitch into the hazards and made the kill switch a button to the left of it. That shit is standardized.
They seriously should of thought really hard on shortening the length of the seat. Absolutely no room for a “backpack”. what if the owner has a partner they wanna take out for a ride. Or running late for work and you gotta drop them off. And I honestly believe they also slimmed down the seat. They can’t possibly think people have an ass that’s going to fit on that skinny ass seat and not hurt or get sore after a few minutes. They should of never shortened that seat.
Looks like a porsche key. Not bad.
do you mind if I ask how tall you are? I ordered one , just trying to size it!
5'8
@@smithlongworth7389 @john threat Any ideas how it would fit for a 6'3 skinny guy?
@@drtootsi My best guess is seat wise you would be good. You might need to change out the bars for a wider set which should be easy. Also a lot of us normal motorcyclists will probably be swapping out the pegs for something of better quality/performance. Thankfully we live in the era of 3D printers and machine shops. So it shouldn't take too long for the aftermarket to fill in the gaps! 😉
I like how they were able to deliver a motorcycle but they still haven't delivered their car.
And yeah I am feeling pretty bitter about it.
Omg take it for a ride up to 80mph and film....we know all this stuff already!
What was your delivery cost?
$700
How are the brakes?
Yes, I'd like to see some emergency stopping videos. IIRC left lever is rear brake, like a scooter?
they feel good enough. you definitely want to make space between you and the car in front of you just like any motorcycle.
It'll probably do near 40 miles on the level if you stay around the 20mph mark with a big ADULT onboard.
Look smaller I thought it is but I think battery might not last long like others bigger electric motorcycle
What is the price on one of these??
$5k when i purchased last year. it's now $6500
Waiting on my super massive. But if I can't take the battery out to charge it, that's a deal breaker. Refund time
What's the top speed?
sondors claims 80mph. so far i've achieved 67mph.
Have you discovered how to remove the battery?
nope. i don't wanna mess with unscrewing anything till they send out the manuals.
Man. The whole point of my purchase revolved around being able to detach the battery and carry it into my office for charging. 🤞there's still hope that doesn't involve a screwdriver.
@@smithlongworth7389 don't blame you, prototype had easy unlocking from front, but I never saw how the orange cord disconnected...
The bike really comes without a manual?
correct.
What is the real world 0-60?
imagine a prius in eco mode for the first 3seconds to get to 25mph then another 4 seconds to get to 60. its such a light and narrow bike that its kinda scary going that fast lol
Nice !
How would you rate the meta so far1-10?
Performance? 80 miles an hour in about 10 seconds?
Overall summary of what you like or not?
Thanks
All that matters to me is thr battery removal
I would swap those crappy looking pegs first thing.
Wow no manual??
correct.
Please charge it up and do a range test on a freeway.
I too would like to confirm the range. I have a 40 mile trip to the office every day.
new video posting today around noon. i'd say it would last 40 miles round trip if you're actually doing hwy miles. i'm in LA so it's rare to ever be able to go above 55mph. the faster you go the faster the battery drains.
@@smithlongworth7389 I have two electric motorcycles. I know speed is critical to battery range. But the question is what is the real range on the highway when ridden normally. Not what Sondors claims (as they ride closely behind another vehicle to cut wind resistance).
@@smithlongworth7389 40 miles round-trip is half of what Sondors state for the motorcycle. I have a 40 mile ride to work every day, this will not do if true.
@@sparkyfirestarter4301 like he says, range goes down as average speed goes up. So 80 mile range as absolute best case range means going at lower/city speeds to obtain. With a 4kw battery this won't do anywhere close to 80 miles at highway speeds.
thats a porsche key fob
I knew that 80 mile range was deceptive with only a 4 KW battery?...right...maybe creeping it at 20mph it probably could....but what kind company does not send some sort of manual for their product???...kind of skeptical about this company and would definitely not be a pioneer on their product until I see some reviews from people 6 months to a year of owning one....
Ride it in the rain lol
Battery cannot be removed?!!/?! What? You cannot be serious. That may mean they have no idea how to design stuff. They cannot figure out how to make a removable battery - really? That would be pretty freaking important. What else did they compromise?
why won't anyone ride the fucking bike and put it on youtube? Whats the top speed? How fast does it go on the highway? I mea come on everyone has been waiting for this bike for so long and no one wants to give the details about the ride quality? Not specially trying to direct this at you Smith Longworth but come the fuck on.
Not everyone has a TH-cam account, some may not have the desire to even take a video. Also, these things are being delivered before registration and insurance. The videos we have gotten are people riding dirty. Just give it a little time.
Lol, great comment, ah man, you won the internet today my sir 🤣 got me cracking up... -Cheers
@@mikein60fpstwitch.tvaliber73 lol thanks man
Tt
you bought a $6k bike and dont know much about it.
correct.
Would you rather have waited an additional month for them to prepare a manual before they deliver the bike to you instead or have the bike in hand? This really looks pretty easy to figure out.
@@c2thew yall rich asf to just be spending $6k and not knowing much about what you're buying, the average consumer will tell you that doesn't make sense.
@@kaisoundz The average consumer can't spend the 15k+ on the competition. Besides. I bet the first few of these on eBay go for 50% more than he paid for it.
@@ac3mast3r Ebay? Take Willie Sutton's advice and go where the money is: Bring A Trailer.
Overpriced ebike
i cant believe anyone likes the ugly overpriced thing tbh
Nice ride! an incredible number of Karen's around this new offering. If you don't like something be elsewhere with your whining.
Nice !