Spektrum SMART Chargers & Batteries - Replacement OR Upgrade? - Part 1 of 2
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These things are REALLY nice, much nicer than I expected, and they're going to be slowly replacing my old packs since I'm getting too busy to babysit failing Lipo's! I'm hopefully done with the frustration from puffy and crappy lipo packs - I'm done with that nonsense, and hope you'll try these things too. I'm confident you'll appreciate the added quality when you power up your first Charger.
For once I'm not going to be Mr. Cheapskate!!! These things are AWESOME! Wish I would have done this a long time ago.
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I wish all manufacturers would settle on one connector style.
Me too, but they all want to make it hard for US :(..... You should see the connector list included with these manuals - BEST part of the system!!! It names EVERY connector out there!
I just had my first delivered : 2 batteries, 1 S2100, 1 Checker. Well done Brian!
Awesome!!!
I may soon order 2 smart 3200. 6 cells 30
Hey Brian! This is mainly a general comment on you’re content. You have without a doubt some of the best content and I absolutely love your reviewing style. Camera crew rocks as well! You guys have a great thing going. Keep it up!
Thanks so much Kris! We're glad to have such a great, supportive audience! Thank you for the words of encouragement!
Great review Brian and Megan! I'm gradually switching over to smart batteries. I have the S2100 and a few 3S, 4S and 6S smart batteries. I like that I don't have to worry as much about storage and keeping track all the different charge states. I really like the Spektrum Smart Checker too. It's great for programming the batteries and it helped me find a problem with a servo on a new plane. The elevator servo wouldn't work right and then quit completely, thankfully not in the air. It was before it's maiden flight. Stay safe and healthy!
Nice! I will be getting my tester in a few days, hopefully ;)
I have been buying the spectrum batteries since getting into this hobby about 4 months ago. I realized a lot of times, I do not get to fly all the packs I charged up and simply do not have time to discharge 3-4 batteries or more if I didn't get to fly at all. The auto discharge feature on the batteries are really helpful. It is 1 less thing to have to worry about. Spending an extra $4-$5 dollars more per battery for some piece of mind is worth it. Thank you for the review on this smart system. I have been debating switching my set-up to the smart system. I only have the Smart checker with my batteries at this moment.
Totally agree. I've been flying for a little over 5 years now, and wish I had such a technology back then, as I believe I'll be using these packs in another 5 years...some of my first packs are totally GARBAGE now - oh well...shooting targets ;)
Icharger duo 308 $270
And icharger 50amp power supply $270
Serious charging power and speeds.
Spektrum smart batteries are nice for charging and not having to worry about discharging. But imo a bit over priced. Some youtubers have got me on roaring top. Affordable and good quality. I got a lot of turnigy batts too.
Good stuff man. Your vids are always good. Thx
YESSSS. I've got the 308 Duo as well. It's an amazing unit. Quite a powerful bit of electronic equipment. It can charge 2 10s Batts at once. I'm using 2 12v Hewlett Packard power supplies. Never had any gripes about it. And the fact that it has an SD card slot for battery memory is super convenient and versatile.
Yeah, I think they could be a bit lower, but still good stuff. You'll notice I only have 4 batteries ;) Now It's like 45 cheap to 1 expensive ;) LOL!!!
There's a bunch of solid options, my el-cheapo worked just fine too ;)
bojo perez - I assume they're all made in Chine ;) LOL
I just watched this and yes I got my 2100 and all my smart batteries during spectrums sale this battery system is awesome and my wife loves rc, great tutorial thank's Brian and Mrs. Phillips 😎👍
That is awesome! Glad you did, and she is ;) My wife doesn't "love" rc, but I'm pretty lucky she tolerates it so well - LOL!!!
I would strongly recommend using the Spektrum smart checker! I was unsure about how often I would use it a first, but then it saved my life more times than I thought.
I've got it coming now ;) I'll showcase it very soon! I'm actually really excited about that. I'm kinda loosing faith in my not-so-trusty $3 "voltage alarms"!
It has the most helpful usb charger too. Great when you need to charge the 1s batts
This has to be the second (or third) time I've watched this video. But now that I'm in the market for a charger, and a 'smart' charger that can also charge dumb batteries, AND why do they make AC and DC variants, this all makes perfect sense now. Great video!
So glad you GET my review even more now :)
If you charge "At the field" 100% of the time, you might not want an AC option...but for me, I ALWAYS want it AC...unless the power's out, and I need to charge my cell phone, like when the power was out for three days last month!
Hello Brian and Mrs Megan aka camera crew, glad you and your family are well and good. Always great information and great filming. Just having fun RC'n with friends and family members. Have been checking the new smart chargers and batteries out im pretty sure I may have to upgrade. So far the charger been using has held up. Its a venom 100 watt 4 channel so upgrade in future. Thank you for your video keep flying you guys and gals.
That's a great charger too!!! I like the quad 100watt! Maybe get one of the small ones and use it for the portable charger :)
Thanks for the education I am storage charging my 450 ma 3s batteries for my SCX25 now. The batteries I got for piper Cherokee are s Spectrem. Charger Spectrem, battery checker, Spectrem, NX6 Spectrem. I am so pleased to be able to make informed decisions.
Glad we could help! thanks
Well done as usual Brian. Wow, am I gonna ready for summer! My Ultimate 3D, Night Timber, S2100 and S1200 chargers and (4) 4S 2200 Gen 2 batts are ALL on the way. Ok now for my (tiny little) gripe of the day.... Where is your freakin' lapel mike, dude??????
I think this one was JUST before we added that into the routine...sorry!
We have been having issues with the wind last few videos, so sorry in advance too, for when you see them...please cringe through our oblivious ignorance as we film along through the lav noise.
Thanks for the info man. I've already got a few of those smart batteries but still using my $50 charger.
Yeah, you can use the cheaper chargers, and they'll still be great!
Great job, thank you both.
No, Thank YOU G Bro ;)
Great information. Thank you. Just starting to switch over to Spektrum Smart Batteries. Time to replace the SKYRC iMAX B6AC V2 Charger.
You can charge a Gen1 SMART battery on "Dumb" charger...just not a Gen2 with total safety...Technically, you can ALSO charge a Gen2 on a "dumb" charger, but it could lead to a dangerous condition if you charge too fast for the SMART chip to balance the cells.
@@BrianPhillipsRC Thank you Brian. On my Arrows 3S 2200mah 11.1 volt 25C batteries, I usually balance charge at 1.5 rate. Have been doing the same with the Spektrum Gen 1 batteries. Same size only 30C. So far no problems.
Hi Brian, thanks for the charger system video I'm new at this and I always want to do the rite thing for my hobby for safety really love you your videos very helpful and fun to watch I upgraded my charger s to the spectrum charger and I love it like you said great for beginners thanks again for sharing your knowledge with everybody.your viewer John.
Glad to help! These have been GREAT to use, and way easier too. Still be careful, but don't need to live in fear ;)
Thanks for stopping in John!
Hey Brian. Thanks for making this video. I just bought the 2100 a week ago. Glad I did.
Fixed typos.
It's a sweet option - My favorite!!! best value by far, if you ask me!
Brian Phillips I bought the smart checker too. It’s in the mail.
Once again Brian, thanks for a great explanation video and sound advice
You're welcome! I hope you'll copy me (P.S. I think the S2100 is by far the BEST deal!)
Thank you for sharing your video, very very informative !
Glad it was helpful! Thanks Ron!
Thank you for addressing smart chargers and smart batteries as this is the way of our hobbies future.
I think it is, even if I was an early Nay-Sayer ;)
I love this system --- Boy it makes it so easy
Totally!!!
I bought the s1200 thinking I could use my Hytec X4 80 multi charger with it ( WRONG !!!!! ). so far the only one you can use is the expensive one by Spectrum.
Man , they gotcha now, more money to dish out . BEWARE . There might be another power supply to use, I just haven't discovered one yet. OHHHH-POOP.
Brian, you found that out in your demo on one of your older power supply's. RIGHT???? Ya got that figured out yet?. your a genius, come on Brian ,you can do it.
love you vids, keep it up you and Megan, your a great team.
George, why did you think you could use the Hytec X4 80 WITH this S1200? Can't you set one of the channels to work as a NICAD or something of the sort, then force it to run in 12VDC output to the S1200??? I don't understand your plan.
Why not just get an AFTERMARKET power supply if you don't want to drop $110 (or whatever it costs) for the Spektrum one like I'm using? You just need a 12VDC output at whatever wattage you'd like to have.
What about something like this - amzn.to/2DMHrgT OR This amzn.to/31U8wqq ???
Thank you Brian great review best wishes Chris 👍
Thanks Chris!
Thank you for this video Brian. Perfect timing as I am just getting into planes from quads and wings.
Nice!!!
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Well done,and informative
Thanks!!!
Thanks for the video. Very informative. Waiting for the new S1100 ac charger. Even smarter for us newbies. Even tells you how many minutes charge time left.
If you want a cheaper one still, go for the S150, it's super inexpensive, but still gets the job done. I personally like the S2100 since I use the balance boards most of the time, with all sorts of connectors so I'm ready to get charging.
Thanks man I really enjoy your videos I invested a lot in this hobby
You're welcome, and glad you're here with us!!!
Good video Brian, since I am re-inventing myself in the hobby the Spektrum route seems to be my choice, you really do pay for what you get.
Correct!!! If you go with Spektrum stuff, you'll be getting some of the best stuff on the market. Using better, but LESS SMART packs will be similar cost to cheaper alternatives, with less danger/risk and better performance ;)
Brian are your batteries balanced after charging? I'm using the S1100 to charge smart packs but the voltages are always different per cell. I'm thinking the spektrum chargers don't balance charge but just regular charge the smart batteries. Thoughts?
The SMART packs self balance and the chargers do too.
Thanks, very informative
Thanks Grant! I was just moving around some file storage and was reminded of the decals you sent for Esteban to use on his DG505.
How is yours working out today?
Literally I've had an 1/5 8s outcast. A losi baha rey 1.0. And an arrma mojavie. For two weeks. I'm going to hobbytown tomorrow to get two 4s batteries for the Outcast.
Sorry for my confusion, but when I'm replying to comments, I go through in reverse chronological order, "most recent" to oldest, so I might have misunderstood, but...
what?.
Hi Brian, on the S-1200/1500's can you run them off of a car battery with alligator clips? I have an old Eflight charger that charges through the balance plug and clips to a 12v source (car battery) but is limited to 2 & 3 cell because input voltage needed to be higher than output. Can the spektrum chargers charge a 5s or 6s battery from a 12v source (13.8ish if car is running)?
You can if you have the right alligator clip to banana plugs. That's what a lot of guys like to do at the flying field, or they'll make an adapter and plug in a large 6S pack and charge a bunch of smaller pack off it ;) Works like a charm, but gotta keep from using the bigger packs - LOL ;)
Hey Brian I’m hoping you can help me out. I bought a S1100 smart charger and I’m having difficulties with it being able to discharge my smart batteries. I put it into the discharge mode and it takes almost 8 hours to discharge a single battery. I tried adjusting the amp draw setting to see if that would help but it hasn’t changed anything. Any tips?
Don't use the charger at all...set the AUTO DISCHARGE and let them be. You don't need to discharge them from the charger!!! That's one of the best features of the SMART packs ;)
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Hi, congratulations for the very interesting video!!
A question, what charging current should I set to charge 1S Lipo batteries at 220mah 3.7V 45C?
Thanks for the reply!
220mAh would be 0.2A
Remember, 220mAh = 220 Milli (or 1/thousandth) Amp Hour = 0.22 Amps
@@BrianPhillipsRCThank you for your answer!! I follow you from Rome (Italy)
Can I use a hitec x4 to charge a spektrum battery? I just got the aeroscout RTF and it's great but taking too long to charge with the stock 20w USB charger
You can charge a Gen1 Smart pack on a "dumb" charger.
Did you make the multi charge board you use in this video, or did you buy it? Can you provide a link on where to get it as that looks like something I need to add to my charging station. Your videos are wonderful and educational.
Hello Brian, I came across this video as I have got a new spectrum s1000 charger with a 11.1V 50 C 5000 Mah spectrum battery. What charge current would I need to charge it at ? I know the charger can already figure out what rate to charge at, but for my knowledge what do you think ? This video did help with my other questions, so thank you!
5000mAh = 5Amps if you want to charge at 1C, but you could charge a 50C pack probably about 2-3C and be totally safe. I KNOW you can use 5Amps, but if you want to do 10Amps (or whatever the max current is) you'll be good to go.
When in doubt - charge at the size of pack... 2200mAh - 2200mAh X (1Ah/1000mAh) = 2.2Amps.
I charged a 2200mAh 4S 30C Smart lipo at 11 Amps - it was sooooooo fast, but I was in a hurry, and set it back to 2.2 amps right after to prolong the life of the pack.
Will the s2100 with the IC3 connector charge my Admiral Pro Series 6000mAh 6S 50C LiPo Battery with the EC5 Connector? Can’t seem to find a ic3 to ec5 connector
YES! You can charge "dumb" packs on SMART chargers, no problemo!
Hey Brian, been awhile. I thought the same as you. I have 3 chargers, my favorite is the Hitec Black Edition and love it. I have so many batteries, and like you I didn’t pay a lot of money on expensive batteries. (To cheap) I’m really thinking about changing to the Smart. I plan on getting the 2100 with the smart battery checker. I’m so bad or hard on my batteries. I keep thinking about the safety. I don’t see why you couldn’t still Parallel charge batteries to save time. By the time I spent the money on Smart Equipment, that’s another nice Plane. Oh well running out of room anyway. LOL
Totally agree! I got the cheapest and hoped to use it to death, but now I'm going to get some nicer stuff, and have "less" of it - LOL (you know that's what I tell my wife - LOL!!!)
Hi Brian and camera crew hope your doing well. I am still looking for a good charger I can afford.The 2100 looks nice.Does it come with a power cord?By the way my new DX8G2 rocks I love it.
Yes, the 2100 works from AC, so you'll get the wall plug and you just might need some adapters if you're not using ec3's or ic3's...
I just got a pair of Spektrum Smart 3s 2200mah Lipo but no where it states charge rate on these which is odd. Do you know the charge rate for these?
What C rating did you get?
@@BrianPhillipsRC 50C and I saw the charge rate on the S2100 charger but it's odd it's not stated on the battery don't you think?
You the KING of all things chargeable! Can you link the best octopus multi adapter that I can plug into my smart charger? Everything I find online uses banana plugs, rather than EC3 or even XT60. I have lots of single plug adapters but would like to have an all in one. I've never done any soldering, so cutting off the banana plugs and attaching an EC3 scares me...I know I have to learn it some day...
Use this to adapt your existing charger cords to the NEW IC3 adapter points...
IC3 Battery to 4mm Female Bullets - bit.ly/2PcV0vn
The round port on the left handside of the S2100 is for applying software updates. It’s not a connection for a temperature probe. How I know? Received today the s2100 as I’m starting on this RC hobby.
Thank you Niels
Hi,
Very grateful for you. 2 of them now give me an error of "?" whenever I plug them in the Spektrum smart charger, I think I have to trash them!
Thank you
I've never seen that error yet - I'd call HORIZON HOBBY tomorrow, or ASAP...these chargers are new enough you shouldn't be dealing with this issue.
Thanks for the info!! Love your channel. Only small problem. I can't hear you. Only when you get close to the camera crew it can get really loud. Just wish you had your own microphone.I have to have my hand on the volume control all the time.. Nobody else seems to have a problem with it. So it could be my computer. No biggie won't stop me from watching your channel. So much great info and awesome flying!!. Thanks
No, you're not the only one. We're working on it, so THANK YOU for putting up with it for the moment!!!
Will this charge thru the balance port? Does it fit thunder power batteries
Thunder power batteries should be okay, but you might need to build or buy one adapter. I've built so many adapters, I can't keep track.
As for needing to plug in the DISCHARGE leads as well as the Balance lead, YES to charge, NO for data (generic cell count and levels)
Looking into transitioning to newer Smart tech stuff. First will be a new BNF plane and a new radio. Trying to decide in what order to transition over to smart batteries and charger, and this video helped explain some of how it all works. I will have to look into charging smart packs with a regular charger, but I'm guessing I will need the smart charger first and then batteries. That kinda sucks a bit because I have 2 good dual chargwrs already.
May just do without the smart batteries for a little while, and then when it is time get a smart charger and a couple smart packs when I end up needing new batteries later. Running newer planes with smart tech, on regular batteries, will work fine for now right?
You CAN use your GOOD chargers still!!! Just do me a favor...Get ONE pack, and you will never go back! Figure out your most popular size and get one or two...then you can fly while keeping the other charged.
The SMART ESC's are cool, but the best part of this SMART equation has gotta be the lipos.
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@@BrianPhillipsRC So, you can charge smart packs from a charger like a HiTec X2 or Venom Pro Duo? I wil look into this more.
I am thinking with the planes/crawlers I have, and packs I have , mostly all using 2200 3S, that I will continue to use these packs for a while, and later get the S2100 and a pair of 4S 2200 packs when I have a plane that will handle 4S.
I will still have plenty of use for the other chargers for a while, for our racing hard packs and whatnot...
Thanks again for the replies and videos.... now to get through Christmas so I can then buy some "big kid" toys...lol
Hope all is well for you and yours.
have question brian when you dont use the battery is ok you keep them full charge or storage charge
You're supposed to "Discharge" lipos, so the chemistry is "stable"... SMART batteries automatically do this for you, and you can set the time frame. I'll show this in a later video, but that's probably the best feature of SMART Technology.
As for standard Lipo's, you're supposed to leave them at 3.80 VDC per cell. I've never done this, and as a result, I get about 2-3 years out of my packs, and they end up puffy and working poorly. This is due to my crazy schedule, so I can't always wait around for charging time when I'm ready to fly.
Great Video I Have A Quick Question .. can this charger Check NON smart battery Resistance ? for sure ?
I just tried with an Eflite 1300mAh pack, and didn't see numbers populate those fields.
Hi Brian and camera crew, Firstly thanks for all your videos, they're great. I have a couple of questions about batteries. I have bought a FMS Let 13 1500mm glider, I wont be flying it anytime soon because its in the UK and I am in Turkey, with travel restrictions in place I think I will be seeing it hopefully mid summer. Before I do I would like to buy some extra batteries, it has a 20 amp ESC, and recommends a 2S 20C 1300mah battery. I notice from your videos that you switch the number of cells and capacities quite a lot and are totally confident about it within the same plane / glider. My question (s) are what battery specifications could I change without changing the motor or ESC. I have bought a genuine IMAX ACDC balanced charger also that I have not seen yet, what else do think I should either while or before I visit the UK? TIA
Great question! When in doubt, I go by what the MFG suggests. If you can't tell, you have to make your best guess.
Two items to use as clues (I say clues, because even listening to these you might get burned)...
1) ESC documentation will tell you what IT can support
2) MOTOR will help you decode the rest...but this is a lot harder. Some will suggest 3S compatible, AND 4S compatible, while others will just claim a wattage...then you get to do math ;( SOOOOOO, I generally just go by what the BNF or PNF recommendation was, then I listen to our amazing audience.
3) (I know I said "two items"...but I remembered one thing) You CAN get a current tester, and just hook up the power system with this in series, then you can CONFIRM both ESC and MOTOR draw the correct amount of Wattage...but again, still requires math ;(
Good luck with your research, but also one other idea...what about RCGroups? You could do a search for the FMS LET 13 1500mm glider (P.S. I WANT ONE - LOL) and see what others are running. While this method is not 100% foolproof, it is sometimes helpful with build up and/or kit planes.
I think i have problems with the update with the S1200. It charges the G2 but i stands in initializing battery all the time.
I bet you need to update your Firmware.
With the DC chargers, is there any way to use either your car battery or accessory port to power it?
YES - comes with alligator clips, if I recall...if not, I promise not trying to mislead...maybe I already had them
@@BrianPhillipsRC Thank you! Wouldn't be a big deal to wire some alligator clips if it doesn't come with them. I'll try it out!
Possible to run a voltage alarm in the plane with the smart battery without the balance lead?
Here is what I dont quite get. I know this platform from Spektrum you get the ideal charging from the smart charger/batteries. Aside from making charging simple, this is supposed to help keep them running in peak performance right? The best performance over the life of the battery, but does this also equate to longer run times with the smart battery compared to a "dumb" battery of the same rating, and mha, and all that? Secondly, if I buy an Arrma car and the new v5 models have all spectrum electronics servo/ESC/Motor/radio, what benefits would I get from using the smart batteries over any other regular battery?
Really, the chargers aren't what make the SMART packs better...
First it's the fact that the packs SELF balanced and auto-discharge. Secondly, the chemistry is way better. Thirdly, better silicone wiring helps, but doesn't make a huge difference in charge and discharge performance.
All these things adds up to better use, but the auto-discharge helps to get longevity out of the packs. If you don't already discharge you "non-SMART" packs, you might get two or three seasons out of a lipo, then they pretty much die...in my experience, whereas, these packs are right where you need them, if you do nothing. For me, it's almost impossible to have all the packs at storage charge, since we have to be johnny on the spot when we're ready to film a flight...now the SMART packs are sitting at storage level when I need them. I hook them up and charge them super fast, if necessary, and ready to rock and roll.
That all being said, chargers are nice, and work well...they aren't really the primary reason, but this was just a video introducing some of the newer chargers.
Imcleaning my house while listening to you. Do u know how many times i checked my charger outside😂😂😂 bebeep beebeep
LOL - you're welcome!!! :)
Hi Brian, will you soon be adding the smart esc and the smart receiver for a complete system?
Not sure yet. For now, I still don't get into too much on the telemetry side of things, but I'm not ruling it out.
Can you parallel charge with these 'smart' batteries? Is is simular to the BattGo smart battery technology that uses the XT range of connectors?
Check out at the end of the video - yeah for "non Smart" for sure...but as for the FULL features of Smart - not sure ;)
Oppps...you meant can I use SMART batteries in parallel...good question - I will find out soon ;)
Brian Phillips yes you can use them in parallel.
Nice video Brian. I have been using the Spektrum batteries for a while now and I love them, As my flying has improved, I have been hitting them pretty hard. No puffing they do a great job. With 3s and 4s 3200mAh batteries my Timber X and 1.5m Turbo Timber fly up to 14 minutes before the alarm sounds (set to 3.7v). Recently bought a Viper and am using a Spektrum 6s 4000mAh. Only flew it twice so far with a 4 minute timer. It will go a little longer, I will be adding a little time in the upcoming flights.
Hope all is well out your way Brian.
Did Horizon Hobby ever take care of you? I was surprised to see all that high dollar gear, especially for batteries you never liked before!!
Keep up the great work!
Bill
Awesome - glad to hear they will be as good as Horizon Hobby claims ;) I LOVE my Viper Jet, and now I need to fly it with this new 6S 4000mAh ACTUAL 50C pack ;) :) I want to see that plane fly FAST!
Brian Phillips that’s the pack I’m ustwith the Viper. Very nice pack!!
Using with
Brian Phillips what’s a reasonable flight time with the 6s4k? I have flown 2 flights at 4 minutes and it was at 70% on the Spektrum battery checker (also great for checking servos)!
Are you asking for the Viper Jet? That's a GREAT question, but to be totally honest, I haven't flown the Viper Jet on the new Smart packs yet ;)
So after 3 years what do you think of the spektrum packs?
Using the S2100, how do you charge two 2S battery with PH connectors only? They are for my UMX Turbo Timber. I'm confused how it works in this video. I figure I should get the S2100 for my first real charger. I have 120v plugs at the airfield. Will the S2100 balance the 2S w/ PH connector?
Chargers bit.ly/32qiuBD
Accessories bit.ly/30i7Biq
IC3 to PH2S bit.ly/31iaOPU
OR
2S PH Multiple Ended Balance Charge Leads amzn.to/2E9hXVn + IC3 Ends bit.ly/3icRcn9
@@BrianPhillipsRC can I balance charge the 2S batteries for my UMX Turbo Timber with this adapter? www.horizonhobby.com/product/balance-adapter-ph-to-xh/DYNC0147.html Not using the EC3 port on the S2100?
I don't think you can...I think you'd need the "Discharge" leads too...otherwise is says "Current Operation NOT Supported".
Here's what I recommend...
Parallel Cable for UMX Lipos amzn.to/2E9hXVn
@@BrianPhillipsRC What I ended up getting: Spektrum SPMXCA311 IC3 to 4mm Female Bullet 6" cable, PTK-5333 Protek RC 2S 12-Battery Parallel Charge Board (3-pin JST-PH) (I like the build of it), to a Spektrum S2100 Smart Charger. I haven't used this setup to charge, but it seems to work great to "storage dis-charge" my 2S batteries until Horizon Hobby replaces my UMX Turbo Timber (I hope: little responce from Product Support to date. They must be swopped in a good way)... My Timber's receiver stops responding to commands from my DX8G2 after ~2 mins of flight. Safe mode kicks in and brings it down. It crashed into to other pilots, who were very understanding, good example to emulate of how nice RC folk are. They said, "good thing it's foam"... Anyway, enough of my sob story...Ya, the S2100 is a little over kill, but I feel I'm set to grow in the hobby with a good charger...Thanks for your knowledge!
Hey Brian, you probably know this already but at 14:12 that 1/8" mini plug port is not for a temperature probe it's to update the firmware. (Battery temp data would be read thru the IC3 connector.) I suspect Spektrum used this type of socket instead of a standard (or mini) USB port so that people would not confuse it for another charging port like the standard USB port immediately next to it. Horizon sells the cable but you can solder one up easy enough if you have a 1/8" TRRS (Tip-Ring-Ring-Sleeve) plug. Just cut off the end of a spare USB cable and solder up the 4 wires to TRRS plug. The tip would be V+ and the Sleeve would be V-. The 2 rings would be for data transmit and receive. Google "USB pin out" for a diagram.
Yes Dan, I have this cable and have reviewed it in our G2 new releases and firmware upgrade cable review. Should be in this playlist, if you're curious now.
Have you built the 3.5mm headphone (TRRS) to USB end? I know this makes sense, but some of the cables Horizon Hobby has used in the past, IE AR636 programming cables, have been ACTIVE...not passive ;\ Thus, can't just chap and swap if this is the case...
I DO Agree with your assessment, but it's not rocket science to share that in a label, then customers can just see FIRMWARE / CHARGE marked on the side. I was disappointing that the upgrade cable wasn't included....what if they had a safety recall - that would be a pain...either way, LOVE the charges!!! They are great.
Thanks Dan!
@@BrianPhillipsRC I agree they should include the cable with the charger. If Horizon is going to offer new technology to the market then they should include the means to update their products. Yet they might figure that the majority of users would not bother to update their firmware anyways. Many people might logically believe they have the latest firmware because they have just bought a brand new item but who knows how long that item has been sitting in a warehouse. Plus it's another way for Horizon to squeeze us for that that extra buck by charging $11 for a 29c cable. To answer your question - I have made TRRS cables before but not for this particular application as I am still waiting for my 2 Smart chargers to arrive. Your comment on passive/active cable is well founded but I seriously doubt it is an "active" cable. That would be easy enough to determine though. I assume you have a Vom meter or continuity tester? Maybe you could check the pinouts of your update cable. If all 4 leads show continuity and zero or near zero resistance then it is definitely a passive cable and can be easily made. Also, I mentioned earlier that it is a 1/8" TRRS plug. I should probably back pedal on that assumption. Since I've only seen the charger in your video and photos online, it is possible it could be a 3/32" TRRS plug which is smaller than the 1/8" version. Maybe you can confirm this for us with a quick caliper measurement? Also, a continuity test of your update cable if you wouldn't mind. That would answer the question for sure.
@@BrianPhillipsRC Just found it. Will watch it out now. Thanks!
so i have the s 2100 smart charger and would like to charge my 3s lipo 650 mah with an xt 30 end on it how would i go about doing this connection to charge the batteries using this charger
I use bullet connector ends to mate up to mine, then use the EC3 on the end, that plugs into the charger. Problem solved...but it's a bit of a pain ;(
If you have a crashed plane, look at the leads from the ESC to the motor...you'll probably have two you can steal ;)
Buy the 3s or 4s bundle from spectrum. Would have spent like 280 and got two batteries and the s2100 with two adapters included. Just got one at Hobby Town. I got that and the Aarma Felony.
You can do this too, if you want to support us, thought our master links :)
Been in the house so long I need my Batteries recharged.
:(..... Sorry Tim!!!
I cut all my battery and or leeds and swapped them to either IC2, IC3 or IC5... I'm down from 8 random connectors to 3! 👍 Can't screw it up!
NICE! You've been BUSY!!!
@@BrianPhillipsRC especially with every boat, plane, helli, car, truck etc... Much easier now. Get a plane change the connector... Not as much as an ordeal as it once was.
Awesome!
Wat can you use the 3200 mah 50c in the timber x 1.2m
yes?
Can you use a car 12v battery as power supply for the S1200 chargers? New to the hobby
If you have the right connectors, sure! If it's a small car battery, you'll need to be careful to keep charge in your lead acid car battery.
Bloody nice set up with all that gear and tech, did someone max out the credit card this time round..
Stimulus money burning a hole in my pocket??? LOL
Brian, do you bag your batteries while charging.
Never have. You? I don't buy that there's enough of a safety factor improvement. I'd lean toward a brick structure before bags. I feel the bag might almost encourage dangerous situations, since you can't see what's going on while charging.
Did Horizon send you this did review??? If so awesome on your hard work over the years. If not good setup on your own part👍
I'll let you connect the dots ;) :)
P.S. I'm so glad you agree!!! I used that argument - I've already been doing this for about 5 years!!!
P.P.S. I'm still gonna call out anything "fishy" I see ;) They can't buy me, since they kinda already owned me - LOL ;) I was already a fanboy, but you knew that!!!
help!!! has anyone received an error message on your G2 charger when attempting to charge, NO BALANCE LEAD DETECTED INSERT BALANCE LEAD. I'm using a g2 battery with no balance lead.
yes, try power cycling it. Then have you updated firmware, by chance? If not, try another battery. See if you can get it working....if not, time to talk to Horizon Hobby tech support.
I’ve got a feeling HH is going to introduce the Draco, they been giving out hints. If they do I will preorder one. Damn their goes my Smart stuff.
I hope it's a big one!!! I'll be all over it!!! - LOL
Brian Phillips They asked if they were to release one which one we would we prefer, UMX, 1.5, or a giant maybe a 2.0. We can hope. I have just about all the UMXs, would rather see the second to third one. Don’t want to get my hopes up. LOL
I bought the s1200. I didnt know I needed to spend another $100 on a power supply. Cheap options for a power supply? If not Im returning it and getting the s1100
I understand. The Power Supply that I'm using is the BIGGER option, if that matters, but to be honest, I've been using and recommending the S2200 Gen2 of late. This was the first batch of SMART stuff, so we got another batch the next year and I've been really happy with the S2200 Gen2, to the extent that we almost always use it...or the S1200 Gen2 (Single Channel)
If you can exchange it, I would do it too... the S2200 Gen2 is a bit more expensive, but then it's a DUAL channel and you can run it off the AC power. The only drawback, if I had to pick one, is if you charge off the grid...like at the flight field, then you might actually want to stick with your S1200, and make up some BIG ole power leads to put on your battery in the car and then charge your packs that way....but I do not.
I'm sorry if I somehow confused you. I hate that there's an S1200 Gen1 and S1200 Gen2 - How confusing is that!??!?!
SMART Tech
PWR Supply bit.ly/2CBRHra
S150 bit.ly/3j4JFrA
S1100 bit.ly/3j3YJpz
S1200 G1 bit.ly/3exoRWh
@@BrianPhillipsRC you didnt confuse me I just didnt read enough about the charger. Ive got a two channel dumb charger that is great. I may just keep the 1200 for charging in the field that may work out good. I dont have a ton of smart batteries and my s150 died so I just wanted to replace it with another better smart charger. I like the auto storage feature on the smart batteries thats really the only reason I got them. And because you can charge some crazy fast.
Could you compare revo lab 8 or any differences or both very usefull
I'm not familiar with that brand.
how do i figure what it the best rate to charge my batteries at? they are smart batteries but i see ppl charging at different rates than default.
The size of the pack. mAh are 1/1000 Amps....so whatever the size is, for example 2200mAh would be charged at 2.2Amps. If you want it to charge faster, you can do whatever you want up to the printed maximum, but it's harder on the chemistry, thus you will somewhat lower the lifespan of a lipo by charging, OR discharging too fast.
These SMART packs are very good, so you can charge them at 3X that speed, if I recall...and some might even be okay with more!!!
Do you have any videos showing how to build connectors?
Some in the NON-Plane video playlist. Check that one out. Also, we used to do this on almost EVERY plane we got...since at the time I was using XT60's
Hello Brian, do you have a video or can you make a tutorial video on how to set up a parallel charging station?? I have no idea what I’m doing 🤦🏻♂️
I have one now, it's in the NON-PLANE VIDEOS playlist.
@@BrianPhillipsRC thanks man!!! I really appreciate you!!
? Can I charge my spectrum 4s batterie without using the balance port on the spektrum 2100 smart charger
If it's a SMART pack, gen 1 or gen 2 you can do that...but if it's not a smart pack, you'll have to use the balance lead. Also, for Gen1 you have to acknowledge you're okay with charging WITHOUT balance lead, but on Gen2 it will just start when it's plugged in, provided you're running latest and greatest firmware.
@@BrianPhillipsRC I have the smart technology spektrum s2100 smart charger and the batterie is the 4s 5000mah 100c smart technology it has the smart lead on the batterie but it’s not good without the lead the batteries reads 4s with the lead it’s 3s is the one I have the ones I don’t need to use the smart port
I like the dual fan coming out of the charger but why does It do that
So it can keep the chargers from getting too hot...especially during a DISCHARGE cycle, I assume
Wow I charge some of my large batterys at 24 amps .I got the 406 duo
Holy crappers!!! 24 Amps!?!? That's crazy!
☠️BLACK BARON☠️ 17:32 Wow, an "Adapter / Connector Inventor". Where can I buy this stuff for my 🤪cable salad🤪 problem?
LOL - If you think that's bad, you should see all my cables for work!!!
Hey Brian it’s Ahmad again. I went to update my firmware on my DX8e And when I installed the SD card into the controller I went down I scroll down went to firmware clicked on that radio turned off then back on and it has not downloaded anything my orange light just keeps flashing the spectrum logo and the download bar is empty and it’s not downloading at all anything I’ll put in there how do I reset my transmitter. I’ve taken out the batteries I’ll put it back in I’ll pull out the SD card when it was sitting there loading a let it sit for two hours And nothing that’s when I started doing everything else to it it’s really frustrating it’s a brand new transmitter don’t know what to do all it does is flash the orange light and show the spectrum down load screen
Have you tried pushing and holding the SCROLLER while powering up? Should take you right into system setup...if not, you'll have to talk with Spektrum.
I have a video of when something super similar happened to my DX18, it's in the NON-Plane videos playlist.
Here's the video, but not sure if it's the same issue you had... th-cam.com/video/LO7-xHbprBY/w-d-xo.html
Brian Phillips Hey brother I appreciate your advice and I finally got through to spectrum.. What they told me to do all the files that I had on my SD card they were link to spektrum to delete them all and then go back to their website download the upgrade again drag it to the SD card install it remove the card and install it in the transmitter and power it on.. and it worked and it started downloading right away it took two minutes I have my transmitter back with the 2.5 upgrade on it for the New AR 637T receivers I have and I’m ready to fly again thank you 😊...I love the new video with the A-10 It’s between that one and the new P 51 D 1.5mm..
Brian Phillips Thanks a lot brother I got a hold of spektrum after 40 minutes on hold.. They told me to delete everything that I installed off of spektrum onto my laptop and off the SD card and then go back to their site and download the upgrade again and transfer to my SD and my download file take it out and reinstall it into the transmitter power it on and it downloaded in two minutes I have my new 2.5 upgrade installed and I have my new AR 637T receivers that can be used on PNP planes thanks a lot👍🏾.. and I love the new video that you just put up with the A-10 awesome plane it’s between that one and the new people 51D 1.5 scale.. and as you would say oooohhh yyaaaa.. 😂
Brian...Seems like somebody I know has finally come to the dark side.....lol....That’s ok....I got a 1500 series Spektrum Smart Charger with a 6s SMART battery....since I last asked your opinion on this subject...some time ago....😁...I have a lot of good other name brand lipos that I still use and with the right adapters you can charge them on the SMART chargers as well.....Welcome to the new addiction. 👊🔥🔥😉
LOL - I totally deserve this comment!!! Call me Darth
Brian Phillips ...All good Bro. I just funnin...It’s all about having fun...👊😉
hi i s any machine or detector or tesyercan find out how many c for battery
Not so much, but rather the manufacturer will classify it based on a variety of factors...
1) Gauge of wiring
2) Connector used
3) Cell quality
4) How much more money they think they can get you to pay for it - LOL ;)
Hi Brian. Sorry My question has nothin to do with the current video. Have you ever reviewed the Durafly EFX racer?
Negative - sorry Steve!
Are u upgrading the spektrum
Am I upgrading the charger?
Hey Brian love your channel learned a lot from it .. I have the p51 June night I love it i’ve always been a hell of a drone guy always love to please open the safe so that came out I got to get a lot better with them.. I’ve been looking at an EDF of one of my favorite planes Is that A-6 intruder 80m I am looking to purchase one but I don’t know what my throws would be on the radio the millimeters throw me off not quite understanding them LOL.. I have a DX8e transmitter spectrum of course and I have The new receiver AR637T I want to install in it .. I would like to see you get one on your channel and Dial it all in.. Or just help me with How to set up the one that I’m about to purchase it would be very grateful and I would appreciate every bit of it even if it’s just in a message on what my set up would be.. well if you get time shoot me a message thank you brother for all you do.. 😁🙏🏾
Ahmad - the throws, measured in mm is referring to how much each control surface moves at the tip, measured from the hing point. I don't do this, but I have some old school guys who think I'm crazy. I just fly them with some "standard" expo settings and then adjust after the first flight.
I don't have that plane, the A-6, what brand??? Freewing/FMS???
Brian Phillips - Ya that’s all I eat to do as well is fly I love that plane but the A-10 is my number two plane .. I say you fly it the other day and I’m going to get that one instead of the A-6 .. The A-10 is ready to go once put together and trimmed.. Thanks Brother for getting back to me 👍🏾
😂 I meant to say want.. I was doing voice text..
Brian, great video and content as usual but the sound quality is low, it sounds like you're in a cave. Can you use a lapel mic or some sort of auxiliary mic?
Sorry about that. We've been eyeing a wireless lapel set, but not sure when. Don't want to over-promise and under deliver, but you're not the only one complaining about this.
@@BrianPhillipsRC Thanks Brian, best regards :-)
Volts are how much power there is and milliamp is how much it last
That's the jest of it.
Bookmarked! Skol!
Sorry translation services didn't work for me :(
Everything is reopening in may
Many places are reopening in May...some are not. Depends on the Governors.
U could say thats what she said so many times in this video😅😅😂😂🤣🤣
Well, that's what she said ;)
Great stuff but expensive.
Agreed!
Get two decent lipos for the price of one of those👍
You didn't even mention the SMART technology in the battery that does an automatic self-discharge after a set period of time. That's a big deal IMHO.
Steve
Yes Steve, this was something I only implied. I should have mentioned that....but soon will be reviewing a few additional items that will let me program the IC5 packs...so I will make up for it on that video.
You should really just buy an ic3 to ic5 adapters so you can keep the smart side with the 6s and the chargers.
They're ordered, but were out of stock...so I couldn't wait ;)
I don't know: 270$ for a Charger that's more than some awesome planes!
Yeah, but you gotta have batteries charged ;) If you wait till one of your favorites craps on you, then take the plunge ;)
IC5 right?. I have one
In reference to what? I said a lot in this video, so not sure what part your referring to.
Can you time stamp the comment, so I know where you were watching?
I wonder why someone would buy the S1200 & the Spektrum power supply vs the S2100 charger?
You can take the S1200 in you pocket, to the flying field ;) I used that in my NEXT video :) Please check it out - you'll get it, and appreciate the thought. Also, you can get more power through the little ones, if desired.
I think the best deal is the S2100, and if you want SPEED, I'd go with TWO S120's and ONE Power supply (that's a lotta cash though!)
Thanks for the explanation Brian. I bought all of mine with a 15% discount that bought it down similar to your price in the USA.
Still awaiting maidens of my A-10 & Twin Otter