Jennifer Hudson not winning _American Idol_ but two years later goes on to win an Oscar for her first ever film role will always be such a beautiful story of triumph. I would love to see JHud do a TV show (drama) and get more film opportunities. We were this close 🤏 to seeing _Respect_ only for the movie to drop in August.
I heard that he didn’t get the Oscar because the movie Norbit was either coming right out or it was out at the time and they were saying it was a bad look, I swear people are something
I can’t stand when they start singing “we are a family” to Effie. That right there is the confirmation that they’re gaslighting her. We’re gonna do you dirty but we’re family, remember? Nuh-uh
Well, you know this musical was loosely based on The Supremes. Deena was based on Diana Ross and Effie was based on Florence who was also done very dirty in real life.
I never understood why he didn’t go for Deena first. Like yes Effie would have been hurt, but I don’t think she would have jeopardized the success of the group for him
I always felt that when the group turned on her they was fucked up and I never forgave her brother for leaving her. And he only came back to her when curtis started to treat him badly
The group didn’t “turn on her” Effie just got what she had coming. The girl was causing problems, constantly acting up, showing up late to rehearsals, leaving the video sets, attacking Dina, verbally assaulting her crew and band mats and you expect for her to not have any consequences for her actions?
@@rydercdaniels4475 did.... did you watch the movie? They literally used Effie to get them to the top then pushed her to the background. She was used and manipulated, and then forced out, she had every right to be pushy, not only that, but she was pregnant and when she tried to explain, they refused to hear her out.
Not only that, but sis never denied that she was "the common piece he's knocking off." 😒 like, im trynna tell yall im pregnant, and you sleepin with him knowing that we were exclusive?? Trash
I used to hate this movie sooo much mainly cuz of how everybody just turned on her , and her so called sisters didn’t stand by her and Beyoncé turned around and took her man got everything Effie wanted the house , the husband the life and never checked on Effie once over those years …. They all deserved everything they got in the years to come later
This reminds me of when Tommy Mottola pushed J Lo into spotlight to spite Mariah Carey during their divorce. He also sabotaged multiple MC songs to give to J Lo.
I wish they would have gave Dawnn Lewis some lines. She played Jimmy's wife but she didn't say anything in the movie. Bill Condon treated her like an extra. I love Dreamgirls but that bothered me.
Love your review. I always felt as If Beyoncé’s voice was too colorful for this role..because “Deena” sang the hell out of the title song “Dreamgirls”!! I got chills when she went sick on “And all you have to do is dreeeeam” lol. Lorrell just wanted to get out the hood! Lol
It sounded good but still pop commercial. Deena didnt have a bad voice, it was difft and less stand out than effie. Effie had a collard greens and hog maw voice. Very distinctive.
@@ertfgghhhh The problem with yall is that you think Loud is better. Not everyone is a fan of the way Jhud sings. Dreamgirls the song was better the way beyonce sang it than jhud. Just because someone has a churchy voice, doesnt make them better.
@@olaibunkun7902 Jhud's range is wider, her tones are richer, Bea is more of an entertainer and dancer and businesswomen and brand. Jhud though has a variety of styles.
@@AfroTapp delusional. Beyonce is a vocalist. she can do more things with her voice, that jhud cant. Beyonce voice is more soulful and pleasing to my ears than Jhud. jhud has no control, poor technique and is always loud. No wonder no one buys her music, shes one dimensional. her voice only suits one genre. Meanwhile beyonce voice can do and has done multiple genres.
@@olaibunkun7902 The problem with y’all is that y’all base your opinions on who you “Stan” the most, and not the actual talent. You can not deny Jennifer Hudson’s singing abilities. Objectively she is a phenomenal singer. She has a quintessential theater voice and amazing range. It doesn’t matter if some people don’t like the way she sings… heck some people say Beyoncé can’t sing at all. I bet you’d disagree. Personal taste isn’t relevant when it comes to judging someone’s talent. YOU 🫵🏾 preferring one voice or singing style to another doesn’t make that voice/singing style superior.
Curtis did what Ike did but without violence. He kept the talent close so he can control them. When Effie clapped back, He broke her down and kicied her out.
It makes me so mad all dream girls is the story about The Supremes that nobody wanted us to know and Diana Ross covered up it's so crazy but it is very true
They tried but it wasn’t covered good enough. I remember my elders talking about this and Miss Ross wasn’t innocent especially when she had her first daughter
@@_SheRise of course movies are exaggerated for entertainment but real life stuff was going on behind the scenes but Diane was pregnant with Berry baby(her oldest) but married Tracey dad when she was pregnant. The girl didn’t find out Barry her dad until she was 13 but Diana being pushed to the front to fit the look at the time was similar
@@LilithsCosmicLounge in the original play the Deena and Lorell were dark skin (especially in comparison to Effie), and non were really heavy set so the fact they went out of their way to make those changes speaks volumes
@@queenredfromthequeencity Jennifer Holliday was quite large and the original musical also had her weight as the reason she would not be mainstream . Nell Carter was original going to be Effie. The song Ït's all over" speaks of her growing weight. The Supremes themselves were not immune to weight restrictions and Florence Ballard was told to lose weight.
@@Lilyrush681 she wasn't that big when she got casted, she got a whole lot bigger during the run of the show. Jennifer was dealing with depression and other stuff that came out through her weight gain. Which is why I said that was an interesting choice. To take a real life problem of the actreas and make it a character trait of character is weird.
I loved this! It was one of my favorites too, I mean trying to sing everybodies part. But, I never understood how C.C. did that to his sister and why he didn't know he had a niece. Like did he abandon the whole family? I've never got that
He knew he had a niece. The niece didn’t know she had an uncle. Effie didn’t acknowledge his existence after he sold her up the river. He was in constant contact with their dad and tried to send her letters which she turned away. Rightfully so.
@@zdoster CC quit...lol Curtis didn’t kick him anywhere. CC left when he realized that Curtis was intent on draining his creativity from the music. Y’all what movie did y’all watch 😂😂☠️
@@therealkenj98 exactly and because cC wrote one night only Curtis had the rights to what ever cc wrote and that’s why he gave it to Denna, this movie does make me mad when I think about it LOL
Lorell stood by Deena and defended her bc they were both sidechicks... You know what they say... Birds of a feather flock together so ofc she didn't see anything wrong with what Deena did cuz she was doing the same
I’m still mad her own brother did her dirty!! And my thing is Effie was outspoken, demanding, & a little diva-ish but it was because of her talent and personal struggles (being pregnant by a f boy). Yet, Dina’s entire storyline is based on her being strong, independent, & taking control of her career and life...isn’t this what Effie did from the gate in the beginning though..speak up... but it’s celebrated with Dina! & the song Listen...y’all should if listened to Effie ..😤😤
About the “always 16 to me” part: I agree that was very predator-like from Curtis, but Deena was an adult by that point in the film, because when the movie first started Lorrell and Deena were like in their late teens (as Lorrell was seen whining later on that she was a woman because she had turned 18), but then like 10 years passed when the whole Cleopatra thing came up. So Deena was an adult, but still had no rights so-to-speak. Also at least at one part of the film, CC did send Effie some money years later, but she rejected the money because of the animosity she had towards him (understandably, like what you said in your video). Anyway, really good video. 😊 I enjoyed Dreamgirls a lot when it came out, but I kinda resented it because a friend of the family who frequented my parents house would always ask to watch it, would try to sing the songs but was tone-deaf, and would blast the volume so loud; it was very annoying. Lol I don’t think I would enjoy it as much as I did as a teenager. And yes, most of the characters in this were rotten and Effie was done beyond horribly.
@@gabbyprince08 Lorrell also said in that scene she was 18. Then after all that mess went down with Effie, the movie jumps 10 years later, which is when Curtis brings up Cleopatra and how Deena will always be 16 to him. Even if Lorrell was bragging about being a woman because she had slept with Jimmy, she was still 18 in that scene, meaning she and Deena were around 27-28 by the time Curtis is talking about making a Cleopatra movie.
I’m Sorry But The “Replacement” You Talking About I Feel Had Every Right To Defend Herself. She Literally Said She Was Leaving Because She Didn’t Have Anything To Do With The Situation But Effie Basically Insinuated She Sold Her Body To Get There Sooooo 🤷🏾♀️
But Replacement had EVERYTHING to do with the situation!! Replacement is the cause of the entire scene!! They treated Effie -- the originator of the group -- as if she was replaceable! THAT'S THE POINT OF HER ANGER TOWARDS THE REPLACEMENT! And Replacement knew it. She was the secretary at Rainbow Records, so she knew exactly what she was doing and who she was replacing. That's why she was comfortable with calling Effie a second rate diva who can't sustain. Because she'd BEEN watching the gaslighting that was going on regarding Effie at Rainbow Records.
I understand why you say this but I still stick by my point. Michelle was innocent in the matter. We don’t know her life so she saw an opportunity and took it. Baby who can blame her. Also I agree that the way they did Effie was trash but let’s not act like she was completely innocent. Especially with the negative side comments she would make about Deena and her body (because of her own self esteem issues) even before the Curtis stuff happened. Also this doesn’t excuse her “what did you do to get in” comment to Michelle, which was completely out of pocket regardless of the situation.
Replacement should have STFU and just left if she was so disgusted but nooo, she just had to sing her lil line about breaking into the biz. Hush, Replacement, you haven’t earned the right to speak on group matters yet lol.
This was a movie based on the supremes and this movie shows how dianna Ross and Motown in general WAS SHADY TO FLORENCE BALLARD which she should’ve gotten her flowers
This is a bit long ; The extended cut of this film really helps tie up some ends that the final cut may have left in my opinion. Curtis for certain wanted Deena from the beginning, in one of the cut scenes he seen Deena first, which makes their (Curtis & Deena) duet make more sense “when I first saw you...I said...that’s my dream” he used Effie to get closer to Deena. I think the plan from the beginning was to give Deena the lead anyway. He had to build Deena up, so later in their marriage it would make it easier to have her dependent on him. Effie was collateral damage, she helped them banish her bc she wasn’t clearly stating what was going on. Even after she left the group she still did shows and it’s suggested that her drinking is what really black balled her. Her and her brother’s (CC) relationship was my favorite dynamic and their making up was my favorite parts of the film. Curtis was a well written villain, and when you watch it over and over again you can see that him doing Effie wrong wasn’t out of left field at all. He had been slithering since the beginning and telling everyone what they wanted to hear to further his agenda all until it caught up with him. I love Dreamgirls...honestly one of my favorite musicals. It being loosely based on true events only furthers my enjoyment bc it and of course tell all books are as close as we’ll get to old school tea.
You’ll be surprised at how common all of this was in the music industry ESPECIALLY within our people. So so so much drama and scandal that was able to happen because there was no social media
Growing up in the 80’s we all loved the original version of And I Am Telling You. Listening to it now is super cringy. Powerhouse vocals aside, It’s the poster song for struggle love.
I feel like even this movie mirrors Beyonce’s experiences. I always felt like she was pushed further and reached super stardom not only because her music was good but she has the overall look that is widely accepted by everyone. She’s light skin, slim thick, long hair, thin nose, conventional European features and it works for her. Look at all these bangin ass singers who don’t get shine because Beyonce and Rihanna are the only ones pushed
okay let’s not… Beyoncé got to where she is because she had the best voice, the dancing skills, AND because of her insane worth ethic which she is very frequently praised for by her peers
Jennifer won the Golden Globe that year as well. Beyoncé was nominated for the Golden Globe but she didn’t get the nomination for the Oscar. I, personally, love me some Beyoncé. But an actress...she is not.
and ever since her career has been in the toilet. Meanwhile Beyonce still rising. who cares that Beyonce didnt get an oscar, they where never nominated for the same category.
I remember Beyonce going on press tours and saying this was the role she was born to play and talking about her diet and becoming Deena. I truly thought the performance that Jennifer Hudson gave was what Beyonce performance would be. Even in the movie Beyonce as Cleopatra the same sentiments were said. Jennifer and Eddie gave amazing performances. And stole each scene they were in.
As a kid I didn't pick up on it, but why the hell did they act like Deena was innocent? Like, yeah Curtis was terrible to her too, but did Deena really expect the man who cheated on her best friend with her to treat her fairly? She got fully offended when Effie confronted her, knowing that's exactly what she was doing. 😂
@@Heyu7her3 when you really look Into what happened with the supremes you’d see that it’s 100% Flo. Too many details match up and they also copied all of the Supremes’ album covers in the movie. The creators will always deny that it’s about the supremes to avoid getting a lawsuit from people like miss Ross Edit: I forgot to add, Jennifer Hudson dedicated the Oscar she won to Florence as well
I especially hated the part when Curtis was talking to Deena's mother and she was like "You make my daughter sound like a product" and he's like "Yes! Exactly I like that." SMH The only characters I liked were Effie and Danny Glover. The rest of them were shady.
I personally liked the michael jackson look a like waiting by the door for deena ,the song was both shady and lit too😂. Although idk why they randomly put those parts in there it was like they were holding a sign saying btw this movie is about 👉 DIANA ROSS! DIANA ROSS!👈
I also liked jimmy. What killed me is that he and effie were the best of friends. Out of everyone else, her and danny's characters were the only ones who went to his funeral. Besides lorrell being banned from it, nobody else was gonna go.
I felt the last part of the rant though. Because I was yelling "CC, you're blood and stabbed her in the back!!" He did get off too easy and thought sending her money was gonna take his guilt away. Chile please!!!
I was here for your rant/review. You did an awesome job! This is a movie I love as well. No shade to Beyonce/Deena, but I rolled my eyes the entire time she sung her solo. I don't even know the name of it. Lol!
Effie kept missing rehearsals & never told anybody it was because she was pregnant. To them, Effie was just being a diva. Like any other job, if you keep missing work, you get fired.
Lol this was my thoughts exactly. Effie wasn’t upfront with her situation which caused her to seem unprofessional. But I know if she would’ve told them, Curtis would’ve convinced her to abort.
Y'all forgot Deena was sleeping with Curtis behind Effie's back!! It was personal because they made it personal so being professional is out of the question at that point!! They stole her dream right from under her! How would y'all act??
@@courtb5265 Effie wasn’t a teamplayer from the start. She was only willing to work in the Dreams as long as she had the spotlight. Curtis only cared to sell records & reach a wider demographic so under his management, Effie was never going to sing lead. Regardless of their personal drama, Effie wasn’t built to work in Curtis’ direction of the Dreams. Curtis is the antagonist, but the real villain of the movie is respectability politics that deemed Effie as unmarketable.
I think Beyonce thought she should have gotten the glory Jennifer Hudson received from this film especially since she starved herself for this role and had a big name already
Effie was always the main character. The original Broadway production was written around Effie as the star. If she wanted the glory, she should have audition for Effie instead of Deena.
Lol I mean you right. My only defense is they was babies who was hungry and being gaslighted by an abuser. They didn't have an adult to watch over them.
Well Sharon Leal aka Michelle in the movie had every right to defend herself after Effie came for her. She basically said she had nothing to do with the situation and that it was between all of them. Effie put her hand on her & insulted her. Was Michelle just supposed to let that slide just because she's a replacement?
@@aristothearies She wasn't the one that betrayed Effie. She probably thought they already told her but found out they didn't once Effie came. She tried to leave but Effie stopped her & put her hand on her & basically said she sold herself to get the job. She was already there as Curtis's secretary
I was like 12 when this came out and my mom had took me to see it after she went and saw it. After the movie I was so mad at my mom for not telling me Beyoncé played a man stealer I was heart broken lol. And I hated how Effie was treated I was so aware
One thing I won’t forgive the movie for doing is never giving Michelle any redemption or so much as a personality like the actual stage musical does. In the musical, it’s actually her that gets on CC and tells him that he needs to go back to Effie and make things right with her. She even was able to accept her part in what happened to her and said that even if CC had to break up with her it would be alright because his relationship with his sister was more important than there’s. The scene as a whole takes place in like 45 seconds but I still feel like it was super important and the movie needed that.
Yes. Yes to all of this. When I was young(teen) my main thought was, "wait a second, so Deena was fuccin Effie's man and Effie's not supposed to say nothing about it?" But over the time yes, I realize allum is trash. How you not see your sister for almost a decade? Anywho, I still love the movie🤭
I love this movie. Everything you said was spot on. This movie definitely showcases how natsy the industry is. It always gets me when they all say "Effie we all got pain". I'm like yall pregnant too?! Curtis talking about she was trouble from the start but was flirting with her from the beginning talkin about I think you look great. mmm mmm mmm I love that movie but it can make you mad.
No frfr. Not only did he turn on her and didn’t have her back, he brought his gf to steal her spot and didn’t even tell her it was happening. Dirty af.
You're on point with the review..the sad part about it was so true as what happened with the Supremes.Florence and Diana. I was so hurt back in the day when it went down
Gurl, this vid popped up on my feed AFTER I ALREADY DECIDED TO FIND IT FOR PURCHASE! I finally picked it up from a store today and couldn’t wait to come to this video after finishing it just now. Look at GOD
Right !! they find any way to try to discredit Beyoncé cause her acting wasn’t even bad 😭 I think she really became Deena, like you said she embodied Deena !!
That was my favorite part of his performance Lml I loved his singing element when Curtis doesn’t change it but the pants drop Lordt 💀 just a lil too much Lml and then downhill it went as a kid never realized how bad Curtis did jimmy fr
I think they did Effie wrong but I do believe that Deena is the reason the trio was able to take off because back then they wanted a certain look. I honestly don't know if the actual group would have taken off the way it did if Effie was in the front. Curtis told us why he chose Deena because she had the look and a voice that was made for pop. The replacement tried to walk away from Effie but she kept coming at her. Effie was entitled to be honest but they all did Effie wrong. Curtis was trash.
I don't think Beyonce is usually a good actress but she actually was great in this. She was perfect for the role and did a great job basically copying Diana Ross.
This movie hurts my heart. This was based off of the supremes Effies character was inspired by Florence Ballard and Dena was supposed to be Diana Ross. The only difference is that Diana had a child with Barry Gordy and Florence ended up marrying an abusive man (Thomas Chapman, a Motown Records chauffeur) and having three children with him and later died b/c of cardiac arrest when she was 32.
Sounds like Florence was into struggle love/ lifestyle ...shes in a hit group and gets booted cuz of bad habits.... marries the abusive chauffeur when she cud have had her choice of one of the writers or producers who make bank...
@@bosse1092 she needed support and instead of giving her support Gordy argued with her all the time. She had a lot of trauma that they should have dealt with.
I remember them saying Florence Ballard was r***d around the time the Supremes were taking off. That may have been where many of her 'attitude' problems came from. She never gave a name of who did it, but when you think about Memphis in the 60s, she probably couldn't say anything. Even now, r**e victims are hardly protected. I can only imagine how suffocating it was then with no help or support system.
The only reason why Beyoncé got that role and continues to get lead roles in movies is simply because of her name and starpower. The casting directors know she can’t act but she brings attention to the movie and fans will go simply because she’s in it
@@JLPerryTV I guess u are right. Her name draws a lot of attention. But to say she can't act. It's just because y'all not used to Beyonce doing something that isn't singing. But the truth hurts does it no?
You have told nothing but the truth. You not only told how dirty the music industry is, you also told how everyone around you can use you for their benefit but you are the one struggling. I just want to say that I've been there and won't be going that way again! I have literally kicked people out of my life because they were too busy to care for me, too busy to help me with things, and not supportive of what I am trying to accomplish in life. But those same a**es sits in my face and smiles at me, wants me to support them, help them with this and that, and care for them. Okay. But this year, I'm investing in myself! And everything that God enables me to do, I will do it and become victorious at it! Thank you my sister for your revelations. I percieve your rant to be things that reveals the truth inall things. Stay blessed and beautiful.
To be fair though Effie did jump in the new girls face first! Lol All she did was take an opportunity just like she did when she became the secretary! It wasn’t her fault they were letting Effie go so she wasn’t wrong. A check is a check and exposure is exposure and a helluva lot better than being a secretary lol So my point is who wouldn’t. So for Effie to come at her like that when all she tried to do was calm the situation down and remove herself from the hostility and drama I don’t blame her for eating Effie up like she did. Second rate diva was definitely harsh but hey why not especially when Effie basically called her a hoe to get the position. Lol Just saying from her perspective. I probably would’ve snapped back too. 😂
I fully agree with you. And also she was technically there for a long time but behind the scenes. So she seen the ins and outs of the group. Probably had enough dirt to blackmail them if she wanted to lol
@@ms.craftycapricorn9475 Yessss exactly!!!! She wasn’t new to the group of people just new to the singing group. So exactly she probably had been already had interactions with the ladies well before becoming a replacement which would allow her to have to freedom to speak up for herself and against Effie with no backlash
@@aceblanks7658 when you think of it they didn't do too bad lol 😂. They replaced Effie with someone they already knew and was comfortable with. She was already on their payroll 🤷🏻♀️
@@ms.craftycapricorn9475 Ok exactly she was already there too easy! Word of the day is BUSINESS! It’s just business. It worked out for all of them. And the girl told no lies. She was a second rate diva. And that’s no shade but truth. Yes we feel sorry for her BUT Effie had a lesson to learn here as well. And that’s being humble is what sales and what works. She thought her voice was amazing that there was no way anybody was seeing her and she could be nasty. And everybody knows just because you talented mean people HAVE TO HAVE YOU. It’s about being a good person and at the end of the day Effie was a diva from day one when she never EARNED that right hence “Second Rate”. In reality they wasn’t that big yet when she left. So if I was the girl I would’ve popped off too. Lol Effie not above a clapback now! 😂👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Don’t come for sis! 😂
I don't think its totally fair to call them all gas lighters. i think its far more accurate to say Curtis is an unbelievably charismatic narcissist who's skill with manipulation is unmatched. he's the Master gas lighter and the rest very easily fell into being his tools. i think CC and the rest of them genuinely believe at first that the "Deena in the front" change IS temporary. Curtis is too smart he knew Effie would respond very negatively to the change and used it to his advantage pitting them against each other. is very easy to do this when you hold peoples dreams in your hands. you can see it from the moment he sees Deena for the first time, she's his Obsession, Effie is literally just his way in, he never cared about her ever. its also sooooooo easy on a human psychological level to get very tired of someone always being upset, even when you know why... its very easy to get over having sympathy and to become very jaded by it. the movie and original broadway show move so rapidly through the events of the story its easy to miss that between Deena moving up front and them getting rid of Effie its almost a year of her "causing problems and making scenes" its really easy for someone in Curtis' position to manipulate the circumstances so that everyone "feels they don't have another option" but to replace her. I'm not at all saying what happened to Effie was by any means fair or justified I'm merely saying that i think its unfair to say they all were gaslighting Effie when the group as a whole was Gaslit by Curtis and Effie was really the only one who could see it for what it was...so Curtis had to remove his "problem" luckily for him the others were getting to their own level of being "over it" its very easy for Curtis to use that to accomplish his "end goal" of making Deena the star. also neither the broadway show nor the movie really imply that Deena and Curtis were actually cheating on Effie. there is a whole line of conversation in the Broadway show during "heavy heavy" about how Deena is NOT sleeping with Curtis during all this and it comes from a very genuine place form Deena. we don't even see them married till 5 years later. We see Curtis' desire towards Deena but its very clear that Dina isn't really responding till after Effie is out of the picture. even that small moment during "love you I Do" when their eyes meet during a fitting Deena looks very surprised and taken aback. she's not responding like a lover she's responding like someone who's being looked at like a full grown woman for the first time. however your general rage and feelings about what happened to Effie i can fully relate to i just really place most the blame on Curtis. I don't at all agree with the others but i can understand how they got to their mental place with it all. and i FULLY agree with u on the Lorelle and Jimmy. SERIOUSLY 8 YEARS?!?! GIRL!!!!
Chile.., I was so mad, Effie got that group together, oh and Beyoncé took her man... Curtis was just dirty, he killed Jimmy Early by the way. Even Beyoncé mAMA said she couldn’t sing that well. Lorelle was a baby, and wrapped up around Jimmy, yea Effie was doing too much and Lorelle use to calm her down, but that’s Effie they should have been used to it.
I think Bey is a great actress, singing is obviously her strength but I feel like she made the movie for me. In my opinion she is also a better vocalist than Jhud but they are both extremely talented. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I feel like people try to discredit Bey's acting because they are so familiar with her in real life it's hard for people to see her as anything but BEY.
Yassssss La Vida! Read this film for filth and I’m here for it. Everything you said was on point. And this happens in real life, not just in the music industry. So many girl cliques have this type of stuff going on. Sororities too.
I always said this if AALIYAH was alive she woulda been deena cuz her voice was lite and that's the voice that was need that's why ppl felt like beyonce wasn't gr8 enough in the role
Well I didn’t say Aaliyah was inappropriate.Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I said Ciara would be a more appropriate choice because for starters Ciara was actually alive when this movie was made😅
Jennifer Hudson not winning _American Idol_ but two years later goes on to win an Oscar for her first ever film role will always be such a beautiful story of triumph. I would love to see JHud do a TV show (drama) and get more film opportunities. We were this close 🤏 to seeing _Respect_ only for the movie to drop in August.
I hit wrenching movie to watch JHud is The inevitable defeat of Mister and Pete. Playing on Peacock right now. Tearjerker 😥
Heart wrenching
@@cynthiamartasI looooove that movie.
Effie was the voice, Eddie was robbed of that Oscar-everybody knows that.
Eddie won his Oscar for this very role
@@bosse1092 I was looking that up. He lost to Alan Arkin.
@@coreyrae0183 ur right it was the golden globe he won 😉
Right, I forgot about that one.
I heard that he didn’t get the Oscar because the movie Norbit was either coming right out or it was out at the time and they were saying it was a bad look, I swear people are something
I can’t stand when they start singing “we are a family” to Effie. That right there is the confirmation that they’re gaslighting her. We’re gonna do you dirty but we’re family, remember? Nuh-uh
Exactly! That scene made me sick to my stomach. Effie definitely deserved so much better.
Everytime when someone is being pushed to the side they sing that song
It be like that with family sometimes lol
She had a right to be angry, but she wasn't entitled to sing lead.
Well, you know this musical was loosely based on The Supremes. Deena was based on Diana Ross and Effie was based on Florence who was also done very dirty in real life.
Dreamgirls is literally the story of Florence Ballard and Diane Ross while they were in the Supremes ,the Broadway play shows it even more
I take it Ms. Ross isn’t a big fan of Dreamgirls.
And she can't sing...
Facts
@@californiasunshine9630 I say that all the time. And she wasn’t the prettiest in the group either 🤭 just the thinnest
Not really
Curtis was TRASHHHHH 🤢
Complete 🔥garbage. Made money off all of them and had the nerve to have an ego
@@cassidy7664 That’s why he was gonna have to pay that Ba k child support ! Lol
I know ! This role makes mad at Jamie fox for at least a day every-time I watch it.
Even as a kid , I knew that he was trassssssshhhhhh
I never understood why he didn’t go for Deena first. Like yes Effie would have been hurt, but I don’t think she would have jeopardized the success of the group for him
"we are a family" kicks her out of the group the next day LMAO
Lmao no it was the same day 😂😂😂😂
@@mylesreynolds8775 not the same day 🤦🏾♀️😩
Lmao...😂 That wasn't the next day. They had performances between those two scenes.
I always felt that when the group turned on her they was fucked up and I never forgave her brother for leaving her. And he only came back to her when curtis started to treat him badly
The group didn’t “turn on her” Effie just got what she had coming. The girl was causing problems, constantly acting up, showing up late to rehearsals, leaving the video sets, attacking Dina, verbally assaulting her crew and band mats and you expect for her to not have any consequences for her actions?
@@rydercdaniels4475 did.... did you watch the movie?
They literally used Effie to get them to the top then pushed her to the background. She was used and manipulated, and then forced out, she had every right to be pushy, not only that, but she was pregnant and when she tried to explain, they refused to hear her out.
Not only that, but sis never denied that she was "the common piece he's knocking off." 😒 like, im trynna tell yall im pregnant, and you sleepin with him knowing that we were exclusive?? Trash
@@MisaKeiJune she sure didn't...all she said was, "Now who you calling common..."
@@MisaKeiJune exactly
Talking about some “Effie we all got pain” like y’all got a 5 month fetus in there too 👀
I would give Effie that if she had told somebody.
She tried to tell them though.
@@ARenae-vo4ch She didn't try hard enough. All she had to say was two words "Im Pregnant"
@@zdoster she was trynna tell them but they were ganging up on her
@@AjaAkata I sung it in my head lmao
They really did Effie wrong. If I was her, I would of fight for child support
I don’t think that existed in their time (60s/70s). Also keep in mind, Curtis didn’t know he had a daughter until the end of the movie
@@JLPerryTV i know, I was just telling my opinion like everyone else
@@JLPerryTV oh no. Child support court has always existed lol
I used to hate this movie sooo much mainly cuz of how everybody just turned on her , and her so called sisters didn’t stand by her and Beyoncé turned around and took her man got everything Effie wanted the house , the husband the life and never checked on Effie once over those years …. They all deserved everything they got in the years to come later
everyone knows this aint a documentary issa fictional movie with a script wtf
This reminds me of when Tommy Mottola pushed J Lo into spotlight to spite Mariah Carey during their divorce. He also sabotaged multiple MC songs to give to J Lo.
Exactly
only for ashanti to sing them smh
And that's why Mariah don't know her.
Great comparison yes! They gaslight Mariah too with a whole smear campaign calling her crazy and all that. Tuh!
@@lindseygueye6078 facts
I wish they would have gave Dawnn Lewis some lines. She played Jimmy's wife but she didn't say anything in the movie. Bill Condon treated her like an extra. I love Dreamgirls but that bothered me.
She had lines in the novel.
She’s the woman from a different world I just realized that 😧😧😃😃😃😃😃
Wanna know something.. I think the replacements name was Michelle lol 😂
😂😂😂 it was
It was
Lol oh no 🤦🏽♀️
😅😂😂
@@kerizmahnicholle2349 nahhh your serious!? Wowww😦😩😂💀
Love your review. I always felt as If Beyoncé’s voice was too colorful for this role..because “Deena” sang the hell out of the title song “Dreamgirls”!! I got chills when she went sick on “And all you have to do is dreeeeam” lol. Lorrell just wanted to get out the hood! Lol
It sounded good but still pop commercial. Deena didnt have a bad voice, it was difft and less stand out than effie. Effie had a collard greens and hog maw voice. Very distinctive.
@@ertfgghhhh The problem with yall is that you think Loud is better. Not everyone is a fan of the way Jhud sings. Dreamgirls the song was better the way beyonce sang it than jhud. Just because someone has a churchy voice, doesnt make them better.
@@olaibunkun7902 Jhud's range is wider, her tones are richer, Bea is more of an entertainer and dancer and businesswomen and brand. Jhud though has a variety of styles.
@@AfroTapp delusional. Beyonce is a vocalist. she can do more things with her voice, that jhud cant. Beyonce voice is more soulful and pleasing to my ears than Jhud. jhud has no control, poor technique and is always loud. No wonder no one buys her music, shes one dimensional. her voice only suits one genre. Meanwhile beyonce voice can do and has done multiple genres.
@@olaibunkun7902 The problem with y’all is that y’all base your opinions on who you “Stan” the most, and not the actual talent. You can not deny Jennifer Hudson’s singing abilities. Objectively she is a phenomenal singer. She has a quintessential theater voice and amazing range. It doesn’t matter if some people don’t like the way she sings… heck some people say Beyoncé can’t sing at all. I bet you’d disagree. Personal taste isn’t relevant when it comes to judging someone’s talent. YOU 🫵🏾 preferring one voice or singing style to another doesn’t make that voice/singing style superior.
Eddie Murphy won a golden globe award for his role, definitely robbed at the other award shows.
Underrated character ngl he was lowkey trifling but he made good music and Curtis used him too
Absolutely. He was robbed of the Oscar IMO
Curtis did what Ike did but without violence. He kept the talent close so he can control them. When Effie clapped back, He broke her down and kicied her out.
It makes me so mad all dream girls is the story about The Supremes that nobody wanted us to know and Diana Ross covered up it's so crazy but it is very true
They tried but it wasn’t covered good enough. I remember my elders talking about this and Miss Ross wasn’t innocent especially when she had her first daughter
Really? I didn’t know that. What happened with them ? Is it really similar to the movie ?
@@_SheRise of course movies are exaggerated for entertainment but real life stuff was going on behind the scenes but Diane was pregnant with Berry baby(her oldest) but married Tracey dad when she was pregnant. The girl didn’t find out Barry her dad until she was 13 but Diana being pushed to the front to fit the look at the time was similar
@@_SheRise the movie sugar coats the situation but yea it is pretty similar
And Paramount was forced to apologize to Smokey and Berry for the dopplegangers.
I swear to this day I cannot rewatch this movie because it makes me too mad
It’s INFURIATING 😡
@@LilithsCosmicLounge in the original play the Deena and Lorell were dark skin (especially in comparison to Effie), and non were really heavy set so the fact they went out of their way to make those changes speaks volumes
@@queenredfromthequeencity Jennifer Holliday was quite large and the original musical also had her weight as the reason she would not be mainstream . Nell Carter was original going to be Effie. The song Ït's all over" speaks of her growing weight. The Supremes themselves were not immune to weight restrictions and Florence Ballard was told to lose weight.
I’m the only one in my friend group who gets super frustrated at this movie sometimes.
@@Lilyrush681 she wasn't that big when she got casted, she got a whole lot bigger during the run of the show. Jennifer was dealing with depression and other stuff that came out through her weight gain. Which is why I said that was an interesting choice. To take a real life problem of the actreas and make it a character trait of character is weird.
I loved this! It was one of my favorites too, I mean trying to sing everybodies part. But, I never understood how C.C. did that to his sister and why he didn't know he had a niece. Like did he abandon the whole family? I've never got that
He didn't care about Effie only his self. Then gone run back when Curtis kick his behind to the curb.
He knew he had a niece. The niece didn’t know she had an uncle. Effie didn’t acknowledge his existence after he sold her up the river. He was in constant contact with their dad and tried to send her letters which she turned away. Rightfully so.
@@zdoster CC quit...lol Curtis didn’t kick him anywhere. CC left when he realized that Curtis was intent on draining his creativity from the music. Y’all what movie did y’all watch 😂😂☠️
@@therealkenj98 exactly and because cC wrote one night only Curtis had the rights to what ever cc wrote and that’s why he gave it to Denna, this movie does make me mad when I think about it LOL
The way Cici did her broke my heart. A traitor in the worst sense of the word. I always overlooked it until I was grown.
If I remember correctly, her brother Cece was trying to send her money but she wasn't accepting it.
Cause he sold her out..
@@chanelagaintv exactly
Yeah because they literally said they were going to buy her out🤷🏾♀️💯
Lorell stood by Deena and defended her bc they were both sidechicks... You know what they say... Birds of a feather flock together so ofc she didn't see anything wrong with what Deena did cuz she was doing the same
Good point
Okayy 👍
I’m still mad her own brother did her dirty!! And my thing is Effie was outspoken, demanding, & a little diva-ish but it was because of her talent and personal struggles (being pregnant by a f boy). Yet, Dina’s entire storyline is based on her being strong, independent, & taking control of her career and life...isn’t this what Effie did from the gate in the beginning though..speak up... but it’s celebrated with Dina! & the song Listen...y’all should if listened to Effie ..😤😤
About the “always 16 to me” part: I agree that was very predator-like from Curtis, but Deena was an adult by that point in the film, because when the movie first started Lorrell and Deena were like in their late teens (as Lorrell was seen whining later on that she was a woman because she had turned 18), but then like 10 years passed when the whole Cleopatra thing came up. So Deena was an adult, but still had no rights so-to-speak. Also at least at one part of the film, CC did send Effie some money years later, but she rejected the money because of the animosity she had towards him (understandably, like what you said in your video). Anyway, really good video. 😊 I enjoyed Dreamgirls a lot when it came out, but I kinda resented it because a friend of the family who frequented my parents house would always ask to watch it, would try to sing the songs but was tone-deaf, and would blast the volume so loud; it was very annoying. Lol I don’t think I would enjoy it as much as I did as a teenager. And yes, most of the characters in this were rotten and Effie was done beyond horribly.
No lorell had said she was a woman bc she had lost her virginity to jimmy remember deena was like “ lorell how could you, you’re just a baby”
@@gabbyprince08 Lorrell also said in that scene she was 18. Then after all that mess went down with Effie, the movie jumps 10 years later, which is when Curtis brings up Cleopatra and how Deena will always be 16 to him. Even if Lorrell was bragging about being a woman because she had slept with Jimmy, she was still 18 in that scene, meaning she and Deena were around 27-28 by the time Curtis is talking about making a Cleopatra movie.
I’m Sorry But The “Replacement” You Talking About I Feel Had Every Right To Defend Herself. She Literally Said She Was Leaving Because She Didn’t Have Anything To Do With The Situation But Effie Basically Insinuated She Sold Her Body To Get There Sooooo 🤷🏾♀️
But Replacement had EVERYTHING to do with the situation!! Replacement is the cause of the entire scene!! They treated Effie -- the originator of the group -- as if she was replaceable! THAT'S THE POINT OF HER ANGER TOWARDS THE REPLACEMENT! And Replacement knew it. She was the secretary at Rainbow Records, so she knew exactly what she was doing and who she was replacing. That's why she was comfortable with calling Effie a second rate diva who can't sustain. Because she'd BEEN watching the gaslighting that was going on regarding Effie at Rainbow Records.
@Theoh Williams Effie didn't leave her alone because Replacement "let her know I am not the one." Effie started cramping, that's why.
I understand why you say this but I still stick by my point. Michelle was innocent in the matter. We don’t know her life so she saw an opportunity and took it. Baby who can blame her. Also I agree that the way they did Effie was trash but let’s not act like she was completely innocent. Especially with the negative side comments she would make about Deena and her body (because of her own self esteem issues) even before the Curtis stuff happened. Also this doesn’t excuse her “what did you do to get in” comment to Michelle, which was completely out of pocket regardless of the situation.
Replacement should have STFU and just left if she was so disgusted but nooo, she just had to sing her lil line about breaking into the biz. Hush, Replacement, you haven’t earned the right to speak on group matters yet lol.
Well she did end up with Cece ...
This was a movie based on the supremes and this movie shows how dianna Ross and Motown in general WAS SHADY TO FLORENCE BALLARD which she should’ve gotten her flowers
Jennifer dedicated her Oscar to Flo
@@CaptainaMARIca yup Florence sadly didn't get the happy ending Effie got 💔💔
AND! You (Luralle) called Jimmy out for being married and STILL decided to be the mistress for 8yrs!!!!
Eddie was nominated for an Oscar for Dreamgirls. And not Farrah 😫😂🥲
@Blair Waldorf I agree. He lost to the grandpa in “little miss sunshine”. Dude was funny but Eddie did the damn thing
“Chasing after a crackhead for 8 years” I- 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
This is a bit long ; The extended cut of this film really helps tie up some ends that the final cut may have left in my opinion. Curtis for certain wanted Deena from the beginning, in one of the cut scenes he seen Deena first, which makes their (Curtis & Deena) duet make more sense “when I first saw you...I said...that’s my dream” he used Effie to get closer to Deena.
I think the plan from the beginning was to give Deena the lead anyway. He had to build Deena up, so later in their marriage it would make it easier to have her dependent on him. Effie was collateral damage, she helped them banish her bc she wasn’t clearly stating what was going on. Even after she left the group she still did shows and it’s suggested that her drinking is what really black balled her. Her and her brother’s (CC) relationship was my favorite dynamic and their making up was my favorite parts of the film.
Curtis was a well written villain, and when you watch it over and over again you can see that him doing Effie wrong wasn’t out of left field at all. He had been slithering since the beginning and telling everyone what they wanted to hear to further his agenda all until it caught up with him. I love Dreamgirls...honestly one of my favorite musicals. It being loosely based on true events only furthers my enjoyment bc it and of course tell all books are as close as we’ll get to old school tea.
I felt this whole rant to my core and I agree with EVERYTHING you just said. Amen.
You’ll be surprised at how common all of this was in the music industry ESPECIALLY within our people. So so so much drama and scandal that was able to happen because there was no social media
Growing up in the 80’s we all loved the original version of And I Am Telling You. Listening to it now is super cringy. Powerhouse vocals aside, It’s the poster song for struggle love.
I feel like even this movie mirrors Beyonce’s experiences. I always felt like she was pushed further and reached super stardom not only because her music was good but she has the overall look that is widely accepted by everyone. She’s light skin, slim thick, long hair, thin nose, conventional European features and it works for her. Look at all these bangin ass singers who don’t get shine because Beyonce and Rihanna are the only ones pushed
hold up, let’s not act like beyoncé doesn’t have the hardwork, drive and talent for position that she’s in.
Beyoncé has talent as well. Don’t fucking do that
Facts. 💯
okay let’s not… Beyoncé got to where she is because she had the best voice, the dancing skills, AND because of her insane worth ethic which she is very frequently praised for by her peers
I was rocking with your comment until you added Rihanna to the mix like she's on the same level as Beyoncé smh
I didn’t realize Jennifer won an Oscar. Wow. She really outdid Beyoncé. Kudos to her.
@Lakacia Lloyd agreed. Totally. (I also think J-Hud is a better singer....)
She set you up to be hateful!!!
Jennifer won the Golden Globe that year as well. Beyoncé was nominated for the Golden Globe but she didn’t get the nomination for the Oscar. I, personally, love me some Beyoncé. But an actress...she is not.
and ever since her career has been in the toilet. Meanwhile Beyonce still rising. who cares that Beyonce didnt get an oscar, they where never nominated for the same category.
@@ThisIzSeanie jennifer is definitely not a better vocalist than beyoncé. there’s things beyoncé can do to her, that jennifer struggles with
It was the “beYonce canT act” for me 😂😂.
I wasn’t feeling that comment
🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣
SHE CAN SANG THOUGH... ACTING ISN'T FOR EVERYONE
That's why i never watched the movie
Everybody says this and I don’t get it. What’s wrong with her acting? I think her acting is just fine.
You spoke no lies!! The hair, the makeup.. You're killing it!!
Hahahhahaha I just love your channel. When you sang “cause this time, Effie white...” I hollered! I’m Houston and I needed this laugh
I remember Beyonce going on press tours and saying this was the role she was born to play and talking about her diet and becoming Deena. I truly thought the performance that Jennifer Hudson gave was what Beyonce performance would be. Even in the movie Beyonce as Cleopatra the same sentiments were said. Jennifer and Eddie gave amazing performances. And stole each scene they were in.
Beyonce had to downplay her vocals too. Deena was not the best singer.
Yes! I love Eddie Murphy’s acting. Him and Jennifer Hudson were amazing in this movie.
@@joshuamcdowell9745 she did! Listen was the only moment she had to showcase her vocals.
@@_SheRise they did so well
@@booksxbritttv one night only showcase her vocals as well
I love it when you start singing the songs, every time it brings me joy lol. Fantastic recap/analysis, I agree with everything you said.
As a kid I didn't pick up on it, but why the hell did they act like Deena was innocent? Like, yeah Curtis was terrible to her too, but did Deena really expect the man who cheated on her best friend with her to treat her fairly? She got fully offended when Effie confronted her, knowing that's exactly what she was doing. 😂
I had the SAME thoughts! Great video!
Thanks!
You should see the play. I am sure you know Efiie is loosley based off of Florence Ballard.
Baby that character is Flo through and through
@@BeautifulBaja yes , but Effie didn't die😓
Dreamgirls production team claims it's not based on one group, but we can see! Lol
@@Heyu7her3 when you really look Into what happened with the supremes you’d see that it’s 100% Flo. Too many details match up and they also copied all of the Supremes’ album covers in the movie. The creators will always deny that it’s about the supremes to avoid getting a lawsuit from people like miss Ross
Edit: I forgot to add, Jennifer Hudson dedicated the Oscar she won to Florence as well
@@CaptainaMARIca Florence life story is so sad and messed up 💔💔
I especially hated the part when Curtis was talking to Deena's mother and she was like "You make my daughter sound like a product" and he's like "Yes! Exactly I like that." SMH
The only characters I liked were Effie and Danny Glover. The rest of them were shady.
I personally liked the michael jackson look a like waiting by the door for deena ,the song was both shady and lit too😂.
Although idk why they randomly put those parts in there it was like they were holding a sign saying btw this movie is about 👉 DIANA ROSS! DIANA ROSS!👈
Cause she was a product... & she went straight with his plan with no rebuttal or care for Effie.
I also liked jimmy. What killed me is that he and effie were the best of friends. Out of everyone else, her and danny's characters were the only ones who went to his funeral. Besides lorrell being banned from it, nobody else was gonna go.
@@lelelew2735 I peeped that too. I was cackling. 🤣
@@jama3997 why was lorelle banned?
I felt the last part of the rant though. Because I was yelling "CC, you're blood and stabbed her in the back!!" He did get off too easy and thought sending her money was gonna take his guilt away. Chile please!!!
It’s the, “Replacement, we don’t even have to know your name!”.....For me. 😂😂
I cried in a movie when Effi gets dogged out & betrayed by her spineless brother 😤 I 🖤 the movie but I still get mad every time 🤷🏽
People are the same in the 60s, just different times
I agree. People can exhibit trash ways in any time period
Supreme story, I just wish Florence ballard got what she deserved 😔 😪
I was here for your rant/review. You did an awesome job! This is a movie I love as well. No shade to Beyonce/Deena, but I rolled my eyes the entire time she sung her solo. I don't even know the name of it. Lol!
you don’t know the name of the iconic track, listen? which was the best selling song from that soundtrack
Exactly. That song beYAWNce yodeled wasn’t even necessary & should’ve been left out.
Effie kept missing rehearsals & never told anybody it was because she was pregnant. To them, Effie was just being a diva. Like any other job, if you keep missing work, you get fired.
Lol this was my thoughts exactly. Effie wasn’t upfront with her situation which caused her to seem unprofessional. But I know if she would’ve told them, Curtis would’ve convinced her to abort.
Thank you !! I’m in here frowning at these comments... insubordination is real!! Family or not this is a job !! She didn’t do hers so bye
Y'all forgot Deena was sleeping with Curtis behind Effie's back!! It was personal because they made it personal so being professional is out of the question at that point!! They stole her dream right from under her! How would y'all act??
@@courtb5265 deena didn't get with Curtis until Effie left
@@courtb5265 Effie wasn’t a teamplayer from the start. She was only willing to work in the Dreams as long as she had the spotlight. Curtis only cared to sell records & reach a wider demographic so under his management, Effie was never going to sing lead. Regardless of their personal drama, Effie wasn’t built to work in Curtis’ direction of the Dreams. Curtis is the antagonist, but the real villain of the movie is respectability politics that deemed Effie as unmarketable.
I think Beyonce thought she should have gotten the glory Jennifer Hudson received from this film especially since she starved herself for this role and had a big name already
This was definitely something I had thought about as well a few times.
That's what I think too.
She had said, had she known, she would have gained weight, whatever so that she could have had that role, to win an Oscar.
Effie was always the main character. The original Broadway production was written around Effie as the star. If she wanted the glory, she should have audition for Effie instead of Deena.
@@joshuamcdowell9745 Exactly
Girl, your eyeshadow matching those “Dreamgirls” gowns is so cute
Lol I mean you right. My only defense is they was babies who was hungry and being gaslighted by an abuser. They didn't have an adult to watch over them.
Girl!! Pinkie, I loved this rant!! I was cracking up and agreeing.
Love your voice 😍😍❤️ Hated how people treated Effie. She was talented AF!
Well Sharon Leal aka Michelle in the movie had every right to defend herself after Effie came for her. She basically said she had nothing to do with the situation and that it was between all of them. Effie put her hand on her & insulted her. Was Michelle just supposed to let that slide just because she's a replacement?
I dissgree
Cindy birdsong/michelle was part of the problem
She brought herself into the situation, nobody mentioned her before she started speaking...
@@aristothearies She wasn't the one that betrayed Effie. She probably thought they already told her but found out they didn't once Effie came. She tried to leave but Effie stopped her & put her hand on her & basically said she sold herself to get the job. She was already there as Curtis's secretary
@@ertfgghhhh I don't think so, Effie brother not having her back, Deena sleeping with Curtis was the problem.
I was like 12 when this came out and my mom had took me to see it after she went and saw it. After the movie I was so mad at my mom for not telling me Beyoncé played a man stealer I was heart broken lol. And I hated how Effie was treated I was so aware
One thing I won’t forgive the movie for doing is never giving Michelle any redemption or so much as a personality like the actual stage musical does. In the musical, it’s actually her that gets on CC and tells him that he needs to go back to Effie and make things right with her. She even was able to accept her part in what happened to her and said that even if CC had to break up with her it would be alright because his relationship with his sister was more important than there’s. The scene as a whole takes place in like 45 seconds but I still feel like it was super important and the movie needed that.
Yes. Yes to all of this. When I was young(teen) my main thought was, "wait a second, so Deena was fuccin Effie's man and Effie's not supposed to say nothing about it?" But over the time yes, I realize allum is trash. How you not see your sister for almost a decade? Anywho, I still love the movie🤭
I love this movie. Everything you said was spot on. This movie definitely showcases how natsy the industry is. It always gets me when they all say "Effie we all got pain". I'm like yall pregnant too?! Curtis talking about she was trouble from the start but was flirting with her from the beginning talkin about I think you look great. mmm mmm mmm I love that movie but it can make you mad.
Beyoncé is not this terrible actor y’all claim her to be. Dreamgirls and Cadillac Records are her best roles. She held her own
Ok 🤭
Sound like destiny child to me
My thoughts exactly.
That’s what I always thought Beyoncé wasn’t “acting” this was practically her reality aside from the stealing effies man situation
😂💀💀😭
Yup!!
“He controlled your ovaries too!” Lmao
Yes Yes an AWESOME rant break down of Dreamgirls like real folks...so so get!! You were on point👌🏽👌🏽 with each one of them. Throughly well-done😄!
Y I felt this tho? Especially with CC grimy ass brother.
Nobody ever brings up his trash ways!
Omg u actually commented I'm hype lol
CC got some puss and he didn't know how to act.
No frfr. Not only did he turn on her and didn’t have her back, he brought his gf to steal her spot and didn’t even tell her it was happening. Dirty af.
Yea CC was trash AF
The way you just kept saying 8 years!! 😂
The gaslighting in this movie was off the charts.
And beYAWNce STILL can’t act her way out of a wet paper bag.
Justice For Jimmy & Effie✊🏾
Can you do a rant on girlfriends? If you did, what section is it on?
She did
@@hoodrat279 do you remember which section is on?
Just search her videos luv
@@hoodrat279 I have but couldn’t find it, I’ll check again. Thank you 😊 luv
You're on point with the review..the sad part about it was so true as what happened with the Supremes.Florence and Diana. I was so hurt back in the day when it went down
Gurl, this vid popped up on my feed AFTER I ALREADY DECIDED TO FIND IT FOR PURCHASE! I finally picked it up from a store today and couldn’t wait to come to this video after finishing it just now. Look at GOD
People still sleeping on Beyoncés acting talents...she embodied Deena. Smh
Right !! they find any way to try to discredit Beyoncé cause her acting wasn’t even bad 😭 I think she really became Deena, like you said she embodied Deena !!
"Jimmy Got Soul" 🎶😂
That’s my favorite part! 😂
JIMMY GOT JIMMY GOT JIMMY GOT SOUL!!!1!1
Jimmy like potatoes!🎶 Jimmy likes cake!🎶 Jimmy want a piece of your chocolate cake! 🎶😆
That was my favorite part of his performance Lml I loved his singing element when Curtis doesn’t change it but the pants drop Lordt 💀 just a lil too much Lml and then downhill it went as a kid never realized how bad Curtis did jimmy fr
@@ashleydavis2124 that's the funniest part 😂
I think they did Effie wrong but I do believe that Deena is the reason the trio was able to take off because back then they wanted a certain look. I honestly don't know if the actual group would have taken off the way it did if Effie was in the front. Curtis told us why he chose Deena because she had the look and a voice that was made for pop. The replacement tried to walk away from Effie but she kept coming at her. Effie was entitled to be honest but they all did Effie wrong. Curtis was trash.
when i tell you i wanted to fight effie’s brother, effie is so much better than me because she forgave her brother way to easily
I actually liked Benonsay’s acting in this movie tho lol
I don't think Beyonce is usually a good actress but she actually was great in this. She was perfect for the role and did a great job basically copying Diana Ross.
Tf is a “Benonsay”?😂😂
@@lifewshank lmao back in the day people used to troll and call her that
@@abbysings13 oh
@@abbysings13 what she do
I cracked up at the “Beyoncé can’t act”
This was my favorite rant!
I agree 100% !! You hit the same “wrongs” I always had but I still love the movie??
“Ur not even Michelle your Farrah”
THE WAY I SCREAMED
This movie hurts my heart. This was based off of the supremes Effies character was inspired by Florence Ballard and Dena was supposed to be Diana Ross. The only difference is that Diana had a child with Barry Gordy and Florence ended up marrying an abusive man (Thomas Chapman, a Motown Records chauffeur) and having three children with him and later died b/c of cardiac arrest when she was 32.
Sounds like Florence was into struggle love/ lifestyle ...shes in a hit group and gets booted cuz of bad habits.... marries the abusive chauffeur when she cud have had her choice of one of the writers or producers who make bank...
@@bosse1092 she needed support and instead of giving her support Gordy argued with her all the time. She had a lot of trauma that they should have dealt with.
I remember them saying Florence Ballard was r***d around the time the Supremes were taking off. That may have been where many of her 'attitude' problems came from. She never gave a name of who did it, but when you think about Memphis in the 60s, she probably couldn't say anything. Even now, r**e victims are hardly protected. I can only imagine how suffocating it was then with no help or support system.
This was funny and entertaining. I enjoyed it. “8 years Lorelle!??? 8 years???!”
The only reason why Beyoncé got that role and continues to get lead roles in movies is simply because of her name and starpower. The casting directors know she can’t act but she brings attention to the movie and fans will go simply because she’s in it
So as the haters. Example u
Destinys Child Fan Yeah whatever 🥱. If stating the truth is hateful 🤷🏽♂️
@@JLPerryTV I guess u are right. Her name draws a lot of attention. But to say she can't act. It's just because y'all not used to Beyonce doing something that isn't singing. But the truth hurts does it no?
You have told nothing but the truth. You not only told how dirty the music industry is, you also told how everyone around you can use you for their benefit but you are the one struggling. I just want to say that I've been there and won't be going that way again! I have literally kicked people out of my life because they were too busy to care for me, too busy to help me with things, and not supportive of what I am trying to accomplish in life. But those same a**es sits in my face and smiles at me, wants me to support them, help them with this and that, and care for them. Okay. But this year, I'm investing in myself! And everything that God enables me to do, I will do it and become victorious at it! Thank you my sister for your revelations. I percieve your rant to be things that reveals the truth inall things. Stay blessed and beautiful.
They was gaslighting the hell out of her.
Yes. I agree with all that you're saying.
To be fair though Effie did jump in the new girls face first! Lol All she did was take an opportunity just like she did when she became the secretary! It wasn’t her fault they were letting Effie go so she wasn’t wrong. A check is a check and exposure is exposure and a helluva lot better than being a secretary lol So my point is who wouldn’t. So for Effie to come at her like that when all she tried to do was calm the situation down and remove herself from the hostility and drama I don’t blame her for eating Effie up like she did. Second rate diva was definitely harsh but hey why not especially when Effie basically called her a hoe to get the position. Lol Just saying from her perspective. I probably would’ve snapped back too. 😂
I fully agree with you. And also she was technically there for a long time but behind the scenes. So she seen the ins and outs of the group. Probably had enough dirt to blackmail them if she wanted to lol
@@ms.craftycapricorn9475 Yessss exactly!!!! She wasn’t new to the group of people just new to the singing group. So exactly she probably had been already had interactions with the ladies well before becoming a replacement which would allow her to have to freedom to speak up for herself and against Effie with no backlash
@@aceblanks7658 when you think of it they didn't do too bad lol 😂. They replaced Effie with someone they already knew and was comfortable with. She was already on their payroll 🤷🏻♀️
@@ms.craftycapricorn9475 Ok exactly she was already there too easy! Word of the day is BUSINESS! It’s just business. It worked out for all of them. And the girl told no lies. She was a second rate diva. And that’s no shade but truth. Yes we feel sorry for her BUT Effie had a lesson to learn here as well. And that’s being humble is what sales and what works. She thought her voice was amazing that there was no way anybody was seeing her and she could be nasty. And everybody knows just because you talented mean people HAVE TO HAVE YOU. It’s about being a good person and at the end of the day Effie was a diva from day one when she never EARNED that right hence “Second Rate”. In reality they wasn’t that big yet when she left. So if I was the girl I would’ve popped off too. Lol Effie not above a clapback now! 😂👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Don’t come for sis! 😂
@@aceblanks7658 they did effie wrong
I don't think its totally fair to call them all gas lighters. i think its far more accurate to say Curtis is an unbelievably charismatic narcissist who's skill with manipulation is unmatched. he's the Master gas lighter and the rest very easily fell into being his tools. i think CC and the rest of them genuinely believe at first that the "Deena in the front" change IS temporary. Curtis is too smart he knew Effie would respond very negatively to the change and used it to his advantage pitting them against each other. is very easy to do this when you hold peoples dreams in your hands. you can see it from the moment he sees Deena for the first time, she's his Obsession, Effie is literally just his way in, he never cared about her ever. its also sooooooo easy on a human psychological level to get very tired of someone always being upset, even when you know why... its very easy to get over having sympathy and to become very jaded by it. the movie and original broadway show move so rapidly through the events of the story its easy to miss that between Deena moving up front and them getting rid of Effie its almost a year of her "causing problems and making scenes" its really easy for someone in Curtis' position to manipulate the circumstances so that everyone "feels they don't have another option" but to replace her. I'm not at all saying what happened to Effie was by any means fair or justified I'm merely saying that i think its unfair to say they all were gaslighting Effie when the group as a whole was Gaslit by Curtis and Effie was really the only one who could see it for what it was...so Curtis had to remove his "problem" luckily for him the others were getting to their own level of being "over it" its very easy for Curtis to use that to accomplish his "end goal" of making Deena the star. also neither the broadway show nor the movie really imply that Deena and Curtis were actually cheating on Effie. there is a whole line of conversation in the Broadway show during "heavy heavy" about how Deena is NOT sleeping with Curtis during all this and it comes from a very genuine place form Deena. we don't even see them married till 5 years later. We see Curtis' desire towards Deena but its very clear that Dina isn't really responding till after Effie is out of the picture. even that small moment during "love you I Do" when their eyes meet during a fitting Deena looks very surprised and taken aback. she's not responding like a lover she's responding like someone who's being looked at like a full grown woman for the first time. however your general rage and feelings about what happened to Effie i can fully relate to i just really place most the blame on Curtis. I don't at all agree with the others but i can understand how they got to their mental place with it all. and i FULLY agree with u on the Lorelle and Jimmy. SERIOUSLY 8 YEARS?!?! GIRL!!!!
Finally a review that said it all for me. Curtis already came in for taking and not helping. I felt everyone betrayed Effie. Deena was bullshit!! 😂
This movie is inspired by The Supremes.
I am sitting her trying to figure out how to get this eyeshadow look. You got a tutorial on that?
Chile.., I was so mad, Effie got that group together, oh and Beyoncé took her man... Curtis was just dirty, he killed Jimmy Early by the way. Even Beyoncé mAMA said she couldn’t sing that well. Lorelle was a baby, and wrapped up around Jimmy, yea Effie was doing too much and Lorelle use to calm her down, but that’s Effie they should have been used to it.
Beyoncé wasn't even part of the movie! 😂😂😂
@@kattjeans I know... 😂 just mad at the character
@@kattjeans I swear I call her character Beyoncé too cuz I didn’t know her name until I rewatched it recently 😭
I think Bey is a great actress, singing is obviously her strength but I feel like she made the movie for me. In my opinion she is also a better vocalist than Jhud but they are both extremely talented. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I feel like people try to discredit Bey's acting because they are so familiar with her in real life it's hard for people to see her as anything but BEY.
I lost it when she sang "take the money run"🤣🤣
Deena should have told Curtis, “You must not know bout me, I can have another man in a minute Curtis. It’s over!”
Girl now you got me feeling some type of way about this movie, lol. You did a good review!
I never understood what that payment scene backstage was. Thank you for explaining that.
Lemme go get my huge bowl of cereal real quick. 🥣
Ayeeee
Girrrrrrl! Why did I get a huge bowl of Cookie Crisp ready to watch this video?!?🤣 What’s your cereal of choice?
@@stargazer_stacey7415 😂 I had Froot Loops when I was watching this.
Yassssss La Vida! Read this film for filth and I’m here for it. Everything you said was on point. And this happens in real life, not just in the music industry. So many girl cliques have this type of stuff going on. Sororities too.
I just rented the extended version on prime yesterday, lol and I get on here to see you posted this!
I always said this if AALIYAH was alive she woulda been deena cuz her voice was lite and that's the voice that was need that's why ppl felt like beyonce wasn't gr8 enough in the role
Y’all stay coming for Aaliyah unprovoked smh 🤦🏽♀️ I’ll never understand how a dead women can have folks pressed like this 20 years on from the grave
@@notapplicable687 what did I say educate me mr pressed
Ciara would be a more appropriate choice
How is aaliyah inappropriate
Well I didn’t say Aaliyah was inappropriate.Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I said Ciara would be a more appropriate choice because for starters Ciara was actually alive when this movie was made😅