Almost 11 years later and I am still watching this video. Didn't know squat about bullet design til watching this, needed to learn about to hunt Elk with a 7MM-08. Make a new one Federal!!!! Include the Terminal Accent, Barnes LRX, Trophy Copper, Nosler Accubond, Hornady CX, Swift Sciracco ll, ALL THE BIG BANGERS! Please please please, make it a banner!
I hunt Moose with the trophy bonded (165) and have had great success in the 7mmRemMag. The bullet held together and rolled the animal over on the spot. I like the ballistic tip on lighter game (whitetail) but on bigger deer it to me over expands and damages some meat. All in all the Federal rounds I have used are very accurate and dependable
Simply put, the first two bullets (Ballistic Tip and Game King) are not designed to do what the last two bullets (Trophy Tip and Barnes X) are designed to do. From the very start of this test they are comparing two apples to two oranges. Why not compare the last two bullets to a Nosler Partition and a Nosler Accubond? These latter bullets are designed for elk size game, in the bullet weight used, as are the last two bullets in this test.
It comes down to what you're hunting and what distances you might be shooting. BT and Gameking are great on white tail. if you're going after elk, moose or bear, you might want a partition or solid copper bullet.
I've been using 165 grn Barnes TSX for 8 yrs now and they are my bullet of choice. Only becuse I've never lost an animal and they don't contaminate the meat like bonded bullets do. I hunt whitetails, mulies and elk here in Alberta you need a tough bullet for these giants up here.
Yes they all work..iv used a 22'250 60grn up to a 300wsm 180 grn part.please remember shot placement is.key.n yes I'm using my 450Bush. This rifle season..n yes if you don't own 1 you truly don't know how effective this round is..iv chronoded 2149ftpc.with a 16 in' yes I love my 450bush.all I'll ever need around here..thank you all.
Excellent video Federal super informative way more scientific than Cletus shooting mama's Sunday ham and pork ribs up against some Mountain Dew bottles the slo mo camera is the selling point
Shot last years deer with a 25:06 ,117 grain Sierra game king. It performed beautifully, I hit the deer just behind the shoulder the bullet went thru the other side breaking the opposite shoulder bone. The deer fell over on the spot and kicked twice and it was over.
I use 180 grain Nosler Partition as my goto Loaded for 30'06 , specifically for moose and like game. I have no complaints why change what works... designed specifically for moose hunting.
Notice the ballistic tip nosler wasn't shown in test 2 and actually went farther in the gell after going through bone. The bone must've actually kept the bullet together or something
I've shot many deer with it.....it usually drops them in their track....only problem is that it's close to impossible to get them these days. At least in 270 win. I hate the company for that. There's no excuse! I switched to sierra gamekings for a 5.56 since it's impossible to get NBT's. The 55 gr SBT is absolutely devastating to deer.
270 nosler BT 130 grain is the best damn bullet ull ever get for whitetail deer within 300 yard, fuck the game king and to hell with hollow points unless ur using pistol or lever actions. trophy bonded tip is good too btw.
The bullets today are way better than the old. It's easy not to worry when you don't have choices. Bullets are the only thing that kills the game why cheap out?
Sierra Game King or Ballistic Tip on deer, TSX or TBBC on anything larger, though since I roll my own I would also add SST to the deer category they perform REALLY well on whitetail and smaller hogs. The Sierra bullets are in general the most accurate bullets I have ever loaded (in 30+ firearms) but are not as consistent in their performance, my 140gr 7mm-08 loads give textbook perfect performance where as my 150gr 270 loads seem a little slow expanding for thin skinned game, and my 165gr 30-06 loads are way too devastating for use on deer, looks like you hit them with a bazooka. Ballistic Tips and SSTs are more consistent across caliber, weight, and impact speed so if a deer rifle likes SSTs (some rifles don't like a scant ogive) that is all I ever use in it.
Jon Smith I am guessing you are a teenager who has neither shot a 7mm-08 nor taken the time to research it or any other caliber other than what your daddy gave you as your first rifle.
I havent tried to much expensive factory ammo.....barnes tiped triple shock shot right at 1moa, some of the best Ive shot out of my savage m110 30-06, them and winchester balistic silver tips....that last summer, I want some more because Im better at shooting now.
Perhaps it’s not a Premium Bullet but I would have love to seen how the ol’ blue box power shock JSP would have performed against these other. Not necessarily the Barnes as that round is in a class of its own, but against the other 3.
I liked the video a lot. I've been using Federal's loads for a long time and seeing how they (different bullets) all perform really helped me decide which ones to use for each game type I hunt. For elk, I have always used a nosler partition and its my personal favorite. However, I am going to switch to the game king for deer now since watching this video. Nice presentation.
Barnes all the way. never had such a devastating bullet if you dont want your deer to run far, go barnes, and try out thier new tipped vor tx bullets amazing how more people dont shoot these, maybe if they did as much advertising as nosler or hornady they would be more popular.
Last hunting season, I harvested a very large cow elk, using a Kimber .300 WSM, 180 gr federal premium trophy bonded tip, factory "premium ammo. Fired 3 shots at 425 yards, elk finally went down. Upon inspection, all three shots were within a 6" group, two exploded on the surface of the ribs, the third bullet made it into the chest cavity and exploded there. CATASTROPHIC BULLET FAILURE!!! No more federal ammo, going back to my Nosler Partitions, hunting for 60 years, never a failure with Nosler or Hornady.
I like to hunt boar with .308 tip sierra Matchking 175 distance of 30 meters, I have no other end, when he shot the animal is still alive for hours, for this tip this distance has almost no expansion
I shot an elk at 400 yards with a 150 gr barnes x ,from a 300 weatherby mag ,and it penciled through ,i had to track for for a while to finally put it down ,i could have reloaded that same bullet .
thats why i think copper bullets are way over rated and Ill never use them. They need ultra high velocity to fully open and even then they are not consistent. Id take a standard cup and core soft point over a Barnes solid copper any day. Even though the Berger bullets are expensive, I think they are one of the best hunting bullets made. I prefer bullets that penetrate a few inches and then explode in the vitals rather than a bullet that stays together. The Hornady Amax is also a great hunting bullet even though Hornady states its only for target.
ColdWarWarriors totally agree. the classic cup and core bullets still work wonderfully on game. Sierra Gamekings and Pro Hunters, Speer Hot Cors, Hornady Interlocks, Remington Core Lokts, etc. I've got them all. And one of my favorite premium bullets is the Speer Grand Slam. I can't believe how many people have forgotten about the Grand Slam. they were originally designed to compete with the Nosler Partition, which they still do. Everyone these days thinks that you need a premium bullet for everything, which is simply not true. Today's sportsmen have been brainwashed by the ammo companies, I mean think about it, look at the people who only think that the 12 gauge Magnum loads will kill birds reliably.
Jack: Shooting .308 as your primary home defense (close quarters) weapon platform is the opposite of a "good idea". Put down the video game controller.
OrangeDiamond Barbarossa Sorry. What the does "video game controller" have absolutely fucking anything to do with specifically .300 WSM ? Have you played loads of video games that deal with that specifically? Is that how you knew to write that line? You must if you immediately relate to controllers. Stop trying to act like a smart ass fuck. You're not impressing the internet. I said nothing bad about the .308 caliber. All I said is I own the .300wsm so that's what I would have to use. Stop trying to be a "God" of knowledge,Smartass.
jack Fentix Try a little powder on that sore ass. Try to find something that doesn't kill the guy next door too or your wife or baby child in the next room.
Iv'e got a phd in zoology pretty sure I know what I'm talking about . Cancer cannot be caused , some things make you more prone to cancer , like smoking, but all people who smoke do not get cancer .Derp a derp !!
Hahaha willem ur all like u trying to make urself sound smart with comments but your not. WOW says the one who's all like I have a phd in zoology so I know what I'm talking about. So who's really trying to make themselves sound smart u or him. Also if u have a phd in zoology isn't lame that ur spending ur time arguing on youtube and bragging about ur phd.
Michael Angelo, I'm just not sure what your comments have to do with a state of the art bullet designed by Federal. Your comment seems to be a much to say about nothing waste of time and brain cells. Sorry your life is so empty. Hang in there though, maybe things will turn around for you some day.
These reps did a poor summation. "Pick the bullet that's right for you". Are these clowns kidding me ? How about yardages,animals? Cape buffalo,elk,bear or moose. Pretty much anything that expands is good for deer. When you get into the others they could have given more specifics. Quite poorly done. Pathetic.
this a miss leading,they use dry hide not on live animal ,i used all of the bullets they featured and they perform alot different then they did here on video,if you are wondering yes i killed with all of them and documented my results,there is alot better bullets then what they tested.
Hahaha willem ur all like u trying to make urself sound smart with comments but your not. WOW says the one who's all like I have a phd in zoology so I know what I'm talking about. So who's really trying to make themselves sound smart u or him. Also if u have a phd in zoology isn't lame that ur spending ur time arguing on youtube and bragging about ur phd.
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They did an amazing job with the audio! You would never guess this was filmed outside in moderate wind.
The announcer's voice delivered the highest muzzle velocity and energy downrange in this film.
Jim has an incredible voice, he could definitely be in radio or do voice acting
Gotta love those tough questions the “audience” is asking!
Almost 11 years later and I am still watching this video. Didn't know squat about bullet design til watching this, needed to learn about to hunt Elk with a 7MM-08. Make a new one Federal!!!! Include the Terminal Accent, Barnes LRX, Trophy Copper, Nosler Accubond, Hornady CX, Swift Sciracco ll, ALL THE BIG BANGERS! Please please please, make it a banner!
This video it what started me into reloading 12 years ago. Still love watching it, and would love to see Federal do another one.
Federal trophy bonded tip is the best bullet I've ever used for moose
I hunt Moose with the trophy bonded (165) and have had great success in the 7mmRemMag. The bullet held together and rolled the animal over on the spot. I like the ballistic tip on lighter game (whitetail) but on bigger deer it to me over expands and damages some meat. All in all the Federal rounds I have used are very accurate and dependable
You need an updated video like this.
This is why I laugh when people say that the 556 is more powerful than a standard hunting round.
A very good Video with alot of knowledge . I have learned alot from it and now I have some Federal Premium Ammo for my next Deer Hunt thanks to you .
Simply put, the first two bullets (Ballistic Tip and Game King) are not designed to do what the last two bullets (Trophy Tip and Barnes X) are designed to do. From the very start of this test they are comparing two apples to two oranges. Why not compare the last two bullets to a Nosler Partition and a Nosler Accubond? These latter bullets are designed for elk size game, in the bullet weight used, as are the last two bullets in this test.
It comes down to what you're hunting and what distances you might be shooting. BT and Gameking are great on white tail. if you're going after elk, moose or bear, you might want a partition or solid copper bullet.
Привет было интересно посмотреть и послушать спасибо за видео🙂🙂👍👍+
Looked more like a mandatory lunchtime meeting...
The guy in the bleachers with the same shirt on...ya
I've been using 165 grn Barnes TSX for 8 yrs now and they are my bullet of choice. Only becuse I've never lost an animal and they don't contaminate the meat like bonded bullets do. I hunt whitetails, mulies and elk here in Alberta you need a tough bullet for these giants up here.
Yes they all work..iv used a 22'250 60grn up to a 300wsm 180 grn part.please remember shot placement is.key.n yes I'm using my 450Bush. This rifle season..n yes if you don't own 1 you truly don't know how effective this round is..iv chronoded 2149ftpc.with a 16 in' yes I love my 450bush.all I'll ever need around here..thank you all.
@jeremybeaner true, since i started to use barnes bullets, well ill never going back to lead bullets, cheers from sweden.
Excellent video Federal super informative way more scientific than Cletus shooting mama's Sunday ham and pork ribs up against some Mountain Dew bottles the slo mo camera is the selling point
Shot last years deer with a 25:06 ,117 grain Sierra game king. It performed beautifully, I hit the deer just behind the shoulder the bullet went thru the other side breaking the opposite shoulder bone. The deer fell over on the spot and kicked twice and it was over.
You didn't show the Nosler BT through the moose hide with bone. Would like to see that.
Besides the trophy bonded tip this video just show cases the effectiveness of the other companies projectiles
For 80 years nosler partition was the best bullet in 2012 nothing has changed.
I use 180 grain Nosler Partition as my goto Loaded for 30'06 , specifically for moose and like game. I have no complaints why change what works... designed specifically for moose hunting.
@@b01tact10n Same here. I wish you a good hunting season.
UPDATE 2021 AK Moose tag filled and meat now in the freezer! Taken past 100 yards 180 Nosler Partition custom loaded for my REM700 30'06 😁
Notice the ballistic tip nosler wasn't shown in test 2 and actually went farther in the gell after going through bone. The bone must've actually kept the bullet together or something
I've shot many deer with it.....it usually drops them in their track....only problem is that it's close to impossible to get them these days. At least in 270 win. I hate the company for that. There's no excuse! I switched to sierra gamekings for a 5.56 since it's impossible to get NBT's. The 55 gr SBT is absolutely devastating to deer.
270 nosler BT 130 grain is the best damn bullet ull ever get for whitetail deer within 300 yard, fuck the game king and to hell with hollow points unless ur using pistol or lever actions. trophy bonded tip is good too btw.
the barnes is the best
The Fed fusion in m op is the best Fed bullet made I have miny of dear an hogs with them An all range out 600 yrs plus
I also used them on deer my dad has food luck with them also
Back years ago no one ever worried about this stuff, and they still killed deer,
The bullets today are way better than the old. It's easy not to worry when you don't have choices. Bullets are the only thing that kills the game why cheap out?
Sierra Game King or Ballistic Tip on deer, TSX or TBBC on anything larger, though since I roll my own I would also add SST to the deer category they perform REALLY well on whitetail and smaller hogs. The Sierra bullets are in general the most accurate bullets I have ever loaded (in 30+ firearms) but are not as consistent in their performance, my 140gr 7mm-08 loads give textbook perfect performance where as my 150gr 270 loads seem a little slow expanding for thin skinned game, and my 165gr 30-06 loads are way too devastating for use on deer, looks like you hit them with a bazooka. Ballistic Tips and SSTs are more consistent across caliber, weight, and impact speed so if a deer rifle likes SSTs (some rifles don't like a scant ogive) that is all I ever use in it.
Enigma Cipher 7mm-08 is gay
Sounds like a kid with no real world experience.
Jon Smith I am guessing you are a teenager who has neither shot a 7mm-08 nor taken the time to research it or any other caliber other than what your daddy gave you as your first rifle.
Thanks Federal for making bullet gel test so freaking boring...Paul Harrells "Meat Target" is way more interesting
Produced in 2011? Seems like something I'd have seen in the 80's.
The right horse for the course
Too bad you discontinued the Sierra gameking which was the best deer bullet you offered…..
I havent tried to much expensive factory ammo.....barnes tiped triple shock shot right at 1moa, some of the best Ive shot out of my savage m110 30-06, them and winchester balistic silver tips....that last summer, I want some more because Im better at shooting now.
Perhaps it’s not a Premium Bullet but I would have love to seen how the ol’ blue box power shock JSP would have performed against these other. Not necessarily the Barnes as that round is in a class of its own, but against the other 3.
I wonder what the audience is thinking. The women are probably really impressed. Did everyone get a free box of ammo?
Where is the Nosler Partition???????
Bryan Teal Love the Nosler Partitions I shoot them in my 22-250, 270win & 300 win mag
Bryan Teal this video is 6 years old
The NP was developed long before any of those projectiles shown in the video, and was included in Federal's Premium line long before 2011.
Nosler Partition is tops in my book.
@@nevinludwick8665 The Partition has been around since 1948...
I liked the video a lot. I've been using Federal's loads for a long time and seeing how they (different bullets) all perform really helped me decide which ones to use for each game type I hunt. For elk, I have always used a nosler partition and its my personal favorite. However, I am going to switch to the game king for deer now since watching this video. Nice presentation.
Love it
Very educational.
excellent ballistic comparison!
Barnes all the way. never had such a devastating bullet if you dont want your deer to run far, go barnes, and try out thier new tipped vor tx bullets amazing how more people dont shoot these, maybe if they did as much advertising as nosler or hornady they would be more popular.
Great video.
Awesome video,
Amazing company,
4 Astonishing rounds :P
A+++
looked to me like every single bullet would have dropped a moose just fine. even the gameking busted through bone and still penetrated 16"
no nosler partitons?!?!
Last hunting season, I harvested a very large cow elk, using a Kimber .300 WSM, 180 gr federal premium trophy bonded tip, factory "premium ammo. Fired 3 shots at 425 yards, elk finally went down. Upon inspection, all three shots were within a 6" group, two exploded on the surface of the ribs, the third bullet made it into the chest cavity and exploded there. CATASTROPHIC BULLET FAILURE!!! No more federal ammo, going back to my Nosler Partitions, hunting for 60 years, never a failure with Nosler or Hornady.
How do these same bullets do on Boars? Is that a completely different consideration or will you get the same performance?
At what temperature do you guys test your ammunition at in regards to muzzle velocity? What barrel length do you use?
Is a GMM 175gr Serria Matchking BTH considered a FMJ?
Nice commercial and staged questions
What makes you think they're staged? Hmm? No proof just a poor question.
@@joshuachristiansen4253 quite obvious they're staged questions. Unless you are just socially "behind"
@@NoNo_IStay unless you yourself cant compare actual questions and staged questions, smh 😒
I wonder if he was talking about the whole picture like how the animal lived its life in a pin or out in the woods
great info, but am I the only that wants Jim to narrate their life?
If .22 ammo doesn't start flowing onto shelves soon many shooting ranges are going to shut down. When that happens goodbye ammo sells.
Is that bone in the ballistics gel?
tyler east yes
are all of the bullets available for 308 win and in Canada
What a waste of money. There's probably some good content in there somewhere, I just couldn't stomach all that slick glossy corporate sheen.
@armadaportugal Do you know of a better way to get the animals from the field to dinner table?
Put the dinner table in the field?
No Norma Vulkan or Oryx?
I like to hunt boar with .308 tip sierra Matchking 175 distance of 30 meters, I have no other end, when he shot the animal is still alive for hours, for this tip this distance has almost no expansion
I don't know about these copper cored bullets, expansion and over penetration seems to be a problem. I'll stick with the GameKings.
agree
I shot an elk at 400 yards with a 150 gr barnes x ,from a 300 weatherby mag ,and it penciled through ,i had to track for for a while to finally put it down ,i could have reloaded that same bullet .
thats why i think copper bullets are way over rated and Ill never use them. They need ultra high velocity to fully open and even then they are not consistent. Id take a standard cup and core soft point over a Barnes solid copper any day. Even though the Berger bullets are expensive, I think they are one of the best hunting bullets made. I prefer bullets that penetrate a few inches and then explode in the vitals rather than a bullet that stays together. The Hornady Amax is also a great hunting bullet even though Hornady states its only for target.
Yea ive been looking into the vmax ,i use them on my 6mm and,are verry accurate
ColdWarWarriors totally agree. the classic cup and core bullets still work wonderfully on game. Sierra Gamekings and Pro Hunters, Speer Hot Cors, Hornady Interlocks, Remington Core Lokts, etc. I've got them all. And one of my favorite premium bullets is the Speer Grand Slam. I can't believe how many people have forgotten about the Grand Slam. they were originally designed to compete with the Nosler Partition, which they still do. Everyone these days thinks that you need a premium bullet for everything, which is simply not true. Today's sportsmen have been brainwashed by the ammo companies, I mean think about it, look at the people who only think that the 12 gauge Magnum loads will kill birds reliably.
Lets try it again with some steer bullets
And I believe after a while the nickle will gum up pretty bad and will need a deeper cleaning.
Dat voice
5:29 that's quite a tat.
So which one is the best for a human?
Nosler Ballistic tips.
Good home defenses.
Jack: Shooting .308 as your primary home defense (close quarters) weapon platform is the opposite of a "good idea". Put down the video game controller.
OrangeDiamond Barbarossa
Sorry. What the does "video game controller" have absolutely fucking anything to do with specifically
.300 WSM ? Have you played loads of video games that deal with that specifically? Is that how you knew to write that line? You must if you immediately relate to controllers. Stop trying to act like a smart ass fuck. You're not impressing the internet. I said nothing bad about the .308 caliber. All I said is I own the .300wsm so that's what I would have to use. Stop trying to be a "God" of knowledge,Smartass.
UnleashTheBlob corelokts
jack Fentix Try a little powder on that sore ass. Try to find something that doesn't kill the guy next door too or your wife or baby child in the next room.
"talking out of you bum" Nice
Y R U shooting at USA.
Iv'e got a phd in zoology pretty sure I know what I'm talking about . Cancer cannot be caused , some things make you more prone to cancer , like smoking, but all people who smoke do not get cancer .Derp a derp !!
Looks like a bunch of tree stand hunters there in the audience.
Why?
And the big winner is 3006 Springfield
Seriously sad bullets..
Well I guess thats as good as it gets since real bullets are "illegal".
Mostly women in the crowd, oh I'm sure that's who's buying the most ammo, its wierd they even had the ctowd,.....bad idea
Woo!! Go Abraham Lincoln.
I don't care how much hype you spew. You won't catch me shooting nickel plated bullets through my match grade barrel.
I like how your PhD is in zoology and not genetics. Cancer can be caused.
Hahaha willem ur all like u trying to make urself sound smart with comments but your not. WOW says the one who's all like I have a phd in zoology so I know what I'm talking about. So who's really trying to make themselves sound smart u or him. Also if u have a phd in zoology isn't lame that ur spending ur time arguing on youtube and bragging about ur phd.
Michael Angelo, I'm just not sure what your comments have to do with a state of the art bullet designed by Federal. Your comment seems to be a much to say about nothing waste of time and brain cells. Sorry your life is so empty. Hang in there though, maybe things will turn around for you some day.
SPAM
Barrel Damage.
Junk ammo, does not matter the type of projectile Fed ammo fails to go bang
allen browning lol really? I've never had a failed primer with federal but ok..
allen browning Federal ammo is not JUNK.Try using Bear or wolf then say Federal is junk.
These reps did a poor summation. "Pick the bullet that's right for you". Are these clowns kidding me ? How about yardages,animals? Cape buffalo,elk,bear or moose. Pretty much anything that expands is good for deer. When you get into the others they could have given more specifics. Quite poorly done. Pathetic.
I know a guy who dips his rounds in pig blood.
There use to be a ammunition company that filled there bullets with pig blood, and dipped them in it too.
I'll let you guess what its primary use is
this a miss leading,they use dry hide not on live animal ,i used all of the bullets they featured and they perform alot different then they did here on video,if you are wondering yes i killed with all of them and documented my results,there is alot better bullets then what they tested.
i like how you know nothing and stil try to argue , or wait you dont, you think insults make you look smart
Plastic robot-like people...
Creepy!
Nosler bt’s are garbage
Hahaha willem ur all like u trying to make urself sound smart with comments but your not. WOW says the one who's all like I have a phd in zoology so I know what I'm talking about. So who's really trying to make themselves sound smart u or him. Also if u have a phd in zoology isn't lame that ur spending ur time arguing on youtube and bragging about ur phd.