D&D Death Match: Solar Angel versus Pit Fiend General... to the death!

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  • @uzunaruMelonness
    @uzunaruMelonness ปีที่แล้ว +11

    "Hmmm. The black Ichor... that laid... in the Nexus... Oblivion. Definitely a prize... worthy of liches... or Wizards." A cough echoes. "Maybe... the blood should be... purged." The small figure cracks her neck. "The frozen hell, now have... an audience." With the light of burning brimstone, the sharp blue outline reveals the makeshift torch on the hip of the lady. A femur tied with the wet linen and sinew. She sighs. "Welp, time to... clean up the mess. The arena needs... to be reset."
    A portal opens. The being raises the torch. It ignites with a blue, spiritual flame...

    • @richfisher7000
      @richfisher7000 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lol I love that!

    • @uzunaruMelonness
      @uzunaruMelonness ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@richfisher7000
      "Thanks," The blonde figure echoes. The blue flame spilts and devour the blood. Her laboured breath of smoke mimic the scorching of the ichor. The Outrealmer's blue eyes bear witness to the removal of the of essences of the blessed and fallen alike.

  • @GargamelGold
    @GargamelGold ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Riches and Liches,
    I want see the strongest chromatic dragon, verses the strongest metallic dragon. This is Dungeons and Dragons after all.

  • @cjsawyer9987
    @cjsawyer9987 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Dude that was dope. Great job

    • @RichesandLiches
      @RichesandLiches  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the kind words... and checking it out! Really appreciate you taking time!

  • @clorox1861
    @clorox1861 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Now we need the pinnacle of each, an aspect of Asmodeus Vs. an aspect of Zaphkiel. They’ll need conversion, both have their 3e stats in the Book of Vile Darkness and Book of Exalted Deeds.

    • @christopherbravo1813
      @christopherbravo1813 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'd argue that a fairer fight would be Asmodeus vs Jazirian.

  • @neogod29
    @neogod29 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    i love the story but, I feel like the Solar shouldn't be fighting a Pit Fiend. They are more matched with the Planetar. Solars should face Arch-devils or Demonlords, because of numbers. There are supposed to be only 24 Solars, that means each of them is a unique being, whereas with Pit Fiends, there are thousands if not tens of thousands and quite possibly hundreds of thousands. Let's not forget that, every drop of blood spilled from Asmodeus spawns a Pit Fiend, and he's been wounded for a long time.

    • @RichesandLiches
      @RichesandLiches  ปีที่แล้ว +16

      In retrospect you are right... I had to amp up the pit fiend just to get him even remotely into parity with Venator...
      Lets just say perhaps we have not seen the last of Venator... Levistus will be looking for some payback!

    • @josuesepulveda6850
      @josuesepulveda6850 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@RichesandLiches sounds great!

  • @godking4621
    @godking4621 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Been playing since 1st edition and stopped at the disaster that was 4th edition. In the first 3 editions, there is no way any pit fiend would ever go toe to toe with a Solar. Solar were literally Gods who chose to serve rather than rule. Solar powers and abilities were so far beyond a pit fiends powers that it would be about as fair as sending a US Nuclear powered aircraft carrier (Solar) vs a 90 year old man in a leaky wooden boat armed with a newspaper (pit fiend).
    Solar could take down Infernal Arch Dukes and Abyssal Princes with light to moderate difficulty.
    Gary Gygax himself had several small examples of the power of a Solar angel in his Gord the Rogue book series. An obscenely powerful dual class Cleric/magic-user named Gravestone screamed in terror and fled desperately from the Solar, who was summoned through a dimensional tunnel. Gravestone was the most powerful agent of the Death God Nerull on the prime material plane. Gravestone had personally bound not one but two Abyssal princes to his will and service. Gravestone talked to Nerull almost as an equal...He almost talked down to Nerull if I remember correctly....and this titan of terror took one look...one LOOK at the Solar and he fled screaming in terror before the Solar even finished materializing....
    If 5th edition has watered down the Solar so much that a mere pit fiend was considered a challenge...let alone a possible threat to the Solar....5th edition is as bad as the debacle that was 4th edition.
    After writing this I watched the video and I must say, the graphics and story were well done and very entertaining.

    • @anon_laughing_man
      @anon_laughing_man ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Word.
      Same for 2E!

    • @christopherbravo1813
      @christopherbravo1813 ปีที่แล้ว

      well if it's any consolation, you can write Solars as being as powerful as they should be in your own campaign.

    • @HeavyTopspin
      @HeavyTopspin ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Was thinking the same thing; in the first two editions there were no "unique" good outsiders, and solars seemed to be designed to be the equal of archdevils and the top tier of demon lords, while planetars were equivalent to dukes of hell and lesser demon lords. But with 3e introducing the Celestial Hebdomad, those unique archons took the place of solars and, over time, pushed everyone below them down a notch. But back in the day, they had a massive pile of spell-like abilities, resistances and immunities, and in addition, their swords were dancing AND vorpal, and the arrows were automatic insta-kills. Considering the Gord books were based upon AD&D, that response is definitely fitting. And let's not forget that in FR canon, you've got the fallen solar Malkizid who at one point in the past served as one of the Lords of the Nine.

    • @ashvandal5697
      @ashvandal5697 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I always agreed. Tbf though most demonic and diabolic lords are plot devices more than stated npc’s (like everyone else, I love op stat blocks) and I’m not a big fan of the idea that mortals can kill any of them. I’ve simply always viewed Solars the same way, essentially unique demigods that serve the gods directly. I’d liken them the Christian Seraphim in that they really can’t even manifest fully in the material realm, and them even attempting to simply tears the material realm asunder.

    • @HeavyTopspin
      @HeavyTopspin 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @user-ri1sx9rm7f In AD&D, Solars were totally equivalent to archdevils and demon lords, but back then the concept of divinity was sort of murky (compare the Solar's statblock to Hercules' in Deities & Demigods and the Solar is WAY more powerful). They've gotten nerfed with each successive edition, with the Celestial Hebdomad and Court of Stars taking that "we brawl with big baddies" role. As for godliness, that sort of depends upon the definitions of divinity being used. Mephistopheles has mortal worshippers after all, but is not technically a god. Lolth is both Demon Lord and Goddess, yet as a demon lord is less powerful than Demogorgon, Orcus, or Graz'zt (who in FR canon has kidnapped an actual goddess for LOLs).

  • @angramainyu8423
    @angramainyu8423 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ""The Soul needs Light in order to have Power"". ""Chains of Darkness, reserved for judgement "

  • @Alex-pu5dx
    @Alex-pu5dx ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "This isnt scientific" *then proceeds to do 100 battle simulations* 😂

    • @RichesandLiches
      @RichesandLiches  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well... I guess you sorta of got me there. :)

  • @ianphillips2137
    @ianphillips2137 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I would love to see an adult dragon (doesn’t matter which kind) against a storm giant

    • @Acranify
      @Acranify ปีที่แล้ว

      you say it dosen't matter, so what about if the dragon was blue or bronze? to cancel out the giants lightning abilities (yes, i know that then they would shoot themselves in the foot with their own breath not being effective)

    • @ianphillips2137
      @ianphillips2137 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Acranify looking back, I meant for the strongest dragon to fight the strongest giant

  • @danwizzle91
    @danwizzle91 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm loving these man you have a way with your storytelling I'd love to see more of these!

  • @davidwilfand916
    @davidwilfand916 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    A Solar should literally never lose. Gets to 600 foot distance and continues to shoot the Pit Fiend.

    • @neogod29
      @neogod29 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That would make the Solar a coward if he only flew away and shot his bow.

    • @davidwilfand916
      @davidwilfand916 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@neogod29 So? Would you risk dying just to be brave? Being smart is what will win the war, not dying because of utter stupidity.

    • @MrDarthtelos
      @MrDarthtelos ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Courage is a virtue, so the Angel would care about being cowardly.

    • @michaelwaring9883
      @michaelwaring9883 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well I'm sorry to say in reality the solar would lose from time to time and yes the pit fiend would win from time to time like it or not

    • @davidwilfand916
      @davidwilfand916 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@michaelwaring9883 No. The Angel out ranges completely and is immune to exhaustion. Even if every roll goes the pit fiends way it becomes a stalemate.

  • @tyrannicaltypomichaeltester
    @tyrannicaltypomichaeltester 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    A solar should definitely be above any pit fiend not a lord

  • @daleortt4874
    @daleortt4874 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Another great video. Can't wait for the next!

  • @IsaiahPaquette
    @IsaiahPaquette 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please do more of these death matches! They are very entertaining to listen to.

  • @anon_laughing_man
    @anon_laughing_man ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Elminster VS Vecna.

    • @RichesandLiches
      @RichesandLiches  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Jotting this one down... great suggestion!

    • @anon_laughing_man
      @anon_laughing_man ปีที่แล้ว

      The mage battle would be epically glorious in every meaning of the words.

    • @Comrade2261
      @Comrade2261 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Now that's a question I wonder if anyone's asked Ed Greenwood.

  • @wizardgreen6154
    @wizardgreen6154 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Just got recommended this video, Im loving the concept! Gotta add my vote for a Devil vs Demon fight!

  • @SpectrumTide
    @SpectrumTide ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Gold dragon vs Red dragon!

    • @aiun-iverse
      @aiun-iverse 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Silver vs. red would probably be more interesting 🤔

  • @atingley0913
    @atingley0913 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm curious how the battle sim found the pit Fiend victorious in any situation.
    Literally out fly the fiends speed and use bow. I know you said "tactics are less involved" but a difference of 90'/rd is immense.

    • @richfisher7000
      @richfisher7000 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You're not wrong.
      But keep in mind the fiend was empowered.
      I also tried to represent some parity in the taunting from the fiend and the angels "vengeance" as a reason to engage.
      Some might find it interesting that after I finished the video, I ran the sim for 2 more sets (100 each) without the increased fiend stats, and the totals came back 172 to 28...
      So the fiend being powered up a bit helped... still, it was all Solar... other than using a named or homebrewed devil... it was the best option i had.

    • @BlackRainRising
      @BlackRainRising ปีที่แล้ว

      One thing I can think of is, it's an arena so there are limits to how far they can go meaning there is a possibility... just say for argument sake, the Solar had a moment of panic or low perception of his surrounding and found himself cornered where his speed didn't matter cause he had nowhere to go... I could see that, but it's a Solar, that likely wouldn't happen. Solar should have had a 100% win rate unless the simulation actually did have it so the Solar decided to avenge his fallen brother with an old school beat down... unlikely but... it is a simulation

  • @josephcollins3408
    @josephcollins3408 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What about Mordekainen vs. Elminster. Or Karsus vs. Vecna.

  • @skimp1974
    @skimp1974 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yeah, I love a fiend but the Solar takes this.

  • @brianholland9572
    @brianholland9572 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love this video concept

  • @StevenMichaelCunningham
    @StevenMichaelCunningham ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A pit fiend would 'throw the match' knowing a demon or daemon or even aberration would be swatted instead due to it. It would do every....thing......to cause that.

  • @josephsorrendino4920
    @josephsorrendino4920 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video!

  • @bradwalls8656
    @bradwalls8656 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    *Let's peer into a crystal ball & see a possible future D&D Death Match. Feel free to use this Riches and Liches.
    (Ring Announcer using Thaumaturgy) ~ "In the chromatic corner, stepping out from his magnificent mansion with his faithful hound at his side, this CR 12 wizard won't just settle for making this witch hideously laugh. He'll make her cry. Standing 5'-11" weighing at 178 lbs, behold the Lord of Greyhawk himself... MORDENKAINEN!!! Now, in the metallic corner. From the far reaches of the Feywild & the Domain of Delight, beware whatever caustic brew this CR 20 witch conjures. Her form unknown but all known her as... TASHA!!!
    *Mordenkainen vs Tasha.

  • @youngimperialistmkii
    @youngimperialistmkii ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Angel would be willing to die, order to defeat the devil. The devil, would not. The Pit Fiend would always have a plan to survive.

    • @agentchaos9332
      @agentchaos9332 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is irrelevant, because the Pit Fiend only dies permanently if it dies within the 9 hells, whereas Archons die permanently if they're killed anywhere Besides Mount Celestia. (Debatable if that rule applies to the Solar, as angels & Archons are technically different things, but either way the Pit Fiend is only at risk of true death if the fight happens in hell, whereas the Solar probably IS)

    • @youngimperialistmkii
      @youngimperialistmkii 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@agentchaos9332 The devil would not permanently die true. However being demoted for failure, would very likely result. Almost as bad for a high ranking devil, no?

    • @agentchaos9332
      @agentchaos9332 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@youngimperialistmkii there would undoubtedly be some form of punishment, though I imagine losing a 1v1 Duel with a Solar would be..somewhat expected, by the infernal hierarchy, as losing to a being of equivalent power is less humiliating then being taken out by a group of insignificant mortals, for example.

  • @Darwyn4321
    @Darwyn4321 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Lich vs. Beholder!

  • @xaxzander4633
    @xaxzander4633 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    this would be cool if you were actually rolling dice. get a DM and 2 players to fight it out.

  • @jordanwhite8718
    @jordanwhite8718 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    How about a Planatar vs a Nabasu?

  • @dekamivastarwalker389
    @dekamivastarwalker389 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is so badass!

    • @RichesandLiches
      @RichesandLiches  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for the kind words! What matchup would you like to see next?

  • @PhoenixFlame321
    @PhoenixFlame321 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Maybe you could put part 3 being a battle between an avatar of Levistus against an equally powerful celestial, like an Empyrean or even a Lawful Good God of Mount Celestia!

    • @agentchaos9332
      @agentchaos9332 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The majority of gods on Mt. Celestia would delete Levistus' true body, let alone his avatar with minimal effort...unless you specifically made it a sword Duel with no magic allowed, maybe

  • @MrDarthtelos
    @MrDarthtelos ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A demon in the next fight could be cool. Klurichir are pretty scary. Be cool to see one of them fight pretty much anything.

    • @RichesandLiches
      @RichesandLiches  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That would be fun... gives me a chance to convert some of the awesome 3.5 demons. If memory serves they are like 25' tall....

    • @MrDarthtelos
      @MrDarthtelos ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RichesandLiches Dungeon Dad already did it homie.

  •  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fun Videos sir! hope you do more of this sort of video over time!

  • @IdiotinGlans
    @IdiotinGlans ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love you made the solar so RIPPED

  • @szasstam204
    @szasstam204 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yo!! Hella excited!!!

  • @Blaktastic
    @Blaktastic ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Death Knight vs. Avenger (Oath of Vengeance)

  • @aaronyoung9105
    @aaronyoung9105 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would love a match between gods

  • @SpareKibbles503
    @SpareKibbles503 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Please continue this series

  • @youngimperialistmkii
    @youngimperialistmkii ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Red v Gold Dragon btw.

  • @ThisNameIsBanned
    @ThisNameIsBanned 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Pit Fiends need some ability to pull an enemy in and keep them immobile, without that, they can really only throw fireballs around.

  • @patrickwilkerson1728
    @patrickwilkerson1728 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Not quite good vs evil, but have Demogorgon vs Asmodeus.

    • @RichesandLiches
      @RichesandLiches  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Given that the blood war video is in production, the timing of this comment is excellent and top of mind... great idea!

  • @connorhighland6783
    @connorhighland6783 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When tank said "little guys" he meant inoue...

  • @Uncookednote
    @Uncookednote 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One thing I would be fascinated to learn more about is the process that a powerful archdevil might undergo to become good. What might become of them? What would they be after aligning lawful good?

  • @tb4au77
    @tb4au77 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lich vs baelnorn, and/or archlich vs ancient dragon. Also shadow dragon (adult or ancient, your choice) vs celestial of your choice. Great series!

  • @moonwitch616
    @moonwitch616 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent video. Very fun and interesting. I think if you could do a full party of adventurers against some epic level enemies that would be cool. I think that would be very interesting.

    • @RichesandLiches
      @RichesandLiches  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Cool idea! Thanks for the feedback!

  • @dragonlord498
    @dragonlord498 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hellfire wyrm vs a celestial equivalent perhaps

  • @frankacciarito6099
    @frankacciarito6099 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Where is part 3? Maybe crank it up to Torm as a lesser diety vs Livistus or Tyr a greater Diety vs Asmodeus

  • @patlapete3806
    @patlapete3806 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Gadriel had it coming after what he did to Sam Winchester!

  • @prestongarner8796
    @prestongarner8796 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can you do death battle balor vs Pit fiend? Evil 😈 vs evil 👿. A demon vs devil.

  • @andrew-jamesbergin856
    @andrew-jamesbergin856 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You could round the series out with Levistus vs Tyr or Ilmater! Deity Duel!

  • @cmg6667
    @cmg6667 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I want to see who can bench more, these outsiders definitely lift.

  • @mutantfmj
    @mutantfmj ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what about Psionics???

  • @chrishardy559
    @chrishardy559 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    LICH do Lich soon!

  • @greengrundy1583
    @greengrundy1583 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dream Match: ArchDruid vs. ArchLich

  • @markstefenelli3220
    @markstefenelli3220 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Would love to see a dragon vs dragon series. Blue vs Silver. Gold vs Red. Etc.

  • @XxRedrumTV
    @XxRedrumTV ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love it

  • @josephweymon8020
    @josephweymon8020 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The next good vs. evil could be a different Solar vs. a Klurichir. That would be interesting. Or a Baernaloth, those guys are just evil for no reason other than to be evil.

  • @N30WULF
    @N30WULF 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Pit Fiend all the way… If I could I would obliterate the world!

  • @jacktough
    @jacktough 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Still waiting for Round 3! 🛎️
    (You clearly put a lot of work into setting up the conditions for these, as well as your writing. It'd be a shame if you just stopped making them ;-)

  • @lloydgush
    @lloydgush 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Platinum dragon V dracolich?

  • @damonmchaney1222
    @damonmchaney1222 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is this AI art? I love the dreamy feel it gives these videos

  • @AncientRylanor69
    @AncientRylanor69 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    GOOD!

  • @pierrehurley
    @pierrehurley ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Awesome Solars are so under used in the game for a cr 21 monster

    • @DragonstarFighter
      @DragonstarFighter 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They are so underpowered, a solar should never lose to a pit fiend even face to face

  • @whitedwarf9090
    @whitedwarf9090 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is badass lol

    • @RichesandLiches
      @RichesandLiches  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!
      Now tell me how we settle the good v evil score for round 3 :)

  • @envoy2500
    @envoy2500 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Red vs Silver Dragon

  • @RedneckWraith
    @RedneckWraith 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Late to the party, but id suggest one of the archdevils to challenge a worthy celestial opponent.

  • @Cbev1994
    @Cbev1994 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm happy the solar won but sad there's no followup

  • @Shakkarz
    @Shakkarz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm new but an old man

  • @asyourequested
    @asyourequested 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Celestials are immune to cold and electricity, yes?

    • @ashvandal5697
      @ashvandal5697 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, but when you’re talking about high CR monsters it’s probably accounting for either super cold that immunity doesn’t work on, or else a hellfire version of cold, so half cold half divine/profane/necrotic or something.

  • @Comrade2261
    @Comrade2261 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Zariel vs Demogorgon.

  • @PumpdaBrakes-ub8kp
    @PumpdaBrakes-ub8kp ปีที่แล้ว +2

    how can devils or demons ever prevail when in-fighting is encouraged by their gods and archdukes and archdemons. smh. lol

    • @RichesandLiches
      @RichesandLiches  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It is a fair question and one I have my own answer to, its too long to post here but if you watch the nine hells series you have an answer to at least consider. :)
      Thanks for the comment!

    • @PumpdaBrakes-ub8kp
      @PumpdaBrakes-ub8kp ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@RichesandLiches I've been watching. Great series. Great content.

  • @TheOneandPrime
    @TheOneandPrime 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    bahamut vs tiamat

  • @mammonclarke
    @mammonclarke 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gold vs red dragons

  • @Comrade2261
    @Comrade2261 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pit Fiend.

  • @machina-mundi
    @machina-mundi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's meta-persornal u77:07i:158@ll 🙈🐙 🤘😈🤟

  • @SkullCowboy333
    @SkullCowboy333 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Evil always wins because if it does not then the freedom linked to good, in most cases, is false and thus said good is an illusion.

  • @MysterygamerX1234
    @MysterygamerX1234 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    First

  • @michaelwaring9883
    @michaelwaring9883 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't give a d*** about Simulations period All I ever hear about is the Angels win in the Demons lose all the time no matter what. This simply would not be in reality I'm sorry. Show me something real. I want to see one of these videos where the demon actually does win

    • @RichesandLiches
      @RichesandLiches  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Here you go!
      th-cam.com/video/aQzRkIYLHTU/w-d-xo.html