The Battle for Wesnoth: The Working Man's Strategy Game

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  • @Robert-vk7je
    @Robert-vk7je 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +68

    Leveling up veteran units during a campaign is such a cool feature. The units having names (except for undead) and lore makes it even cooler.

    • @CairnEnjoyer
      @CairnEnjoyer  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      In any strategy game I always get attached to my units if they persist between scenarios, I like that Wesnoth indulges this by letting you build up your own loyal crew of heroes over time.

  • @ClubbingSealCub
    @ClubbingSealCub 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +44

    This game is an incredible achievement. It's stayed free for 20 years and it keeps getting updated.

    • @Ghostly_One1
      @Ghostly_One1 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Only downside is, I >think< it no longer runs on OS' older than W10 unless you play an older version.

  • @SuperRainbol
    @SuperRainbol 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +55

    In the 2000s I had a PC but the area where I lived didn't have internet, so to get games I had to buy Magazines that came with CDs full of games and in one of them I found a version of Wesnoth that was 90% translated to my native langue (only the end of long campaigns like the sand elves were not translated). So I played the hell of this shit, thousands of hours going through the campaigns over and over again. When I got Internet the first thing I did was looking up Wesnoth and you an imagine my happiness when I downloaded the new version and saw the it had new campaigns

    • @giljoh6862
      @giljoh6862 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The Screenfun CD? :D

  • @AskiFin
    @AskiFin 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    Our DM used this game's map maker to build us a combat map in D&D, and he could change stuff real-time.. (It was D&D but more about warbands and combat rules from Kingmaker)

    • @SK-lt1so
      @SK-lt1so วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Did someone say "Kingmaker"?

  • @RandomBrownLunchSack
    @RandomBrownLunchSack 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    the huge collection of mods is the best part of this game, The Great Steppe Era is my favorite, very interesting factions and abilities

  • @SusCalvin
    @SusCalvin 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    A detail about the tier 1 necromancer mages, the dark adepts. They are also weak chaff. Unless the campaign gives you a higher level necromancer or allows you to recruit higher levels, you will need to slowly let them build up.
    This is mostly true for all mages, they can be incredibly weak at lower levels and need to be protected as they chase down xp.

    • @CairnEnjoyer
      @CairnEnjoyer  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Mages, especially Dark Adepts are like glass cannons at low level, they can be very deadly especially in the right matchup verses a vulnerable unit, but die very fast if attacked.

    • @SusCalvin
      @SusCalvin 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@CairnEnjoyer I think magic had a trait that let it bypass terrain cover. Like a reasonably high lowest guaranteed chance to hit.

    • @Gorbag100
      @Gorbag100 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@SusCalvin magic attacks have a fixed 70% hit chance, so they are quite good at dealing with high-cover units

    • @CairnEnjoyer
      @CairnEnjoyer  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      In a follow up vid I made after this, I make use of that quite a bit to deal with some sticky lv3 units I otherwise can’t hit

  • @highadmiralbittenfield9689
    @highadmiralbittenfield9689 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have had this game for years. I could never believe it was a free game. Its so well fleshed out.

  • @Victor-g
    @Victor-g 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Finally i found it, played it on my brother's pc 12 years ago, didn't knew it's name.
    Thank you for the video.

  • @awordabout...3061
    @awordabout...3061 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I loved this as a kid between around 2008-2010 when I couldn't afford a proper computer and was struggling along with Linux - this was the only thing I could run, so I played it into the ground. Revisited it recently, and the campaigns really suffer from being TOO long and RNG just kills you every time so there's a lot of savescumming, but it's good fun and I wish I'd been able to get into the MP scene when it still existed.

    • @CairnEnjoyer
      @CairnEnjoyer  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The best part of this game imo is the massive amount of community content, I mostly play the campaigns pretty casually and but I usually just try to restart the specific scenario if I’m in a really bad spot rather than rollback one turn. They have made some RNG/AI changes over the years to have more “fair” options, however it does have that Xcom feeling sometimes where you miss an easy shot again and again.

  • @seepsoda
    @seepsoda 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    one of my favorite games growing up

  • @Elsneakakaze
    @Elsneakakaze 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Ive never heard of this game, and that angers me greatly, im downloading it right now!

    • @Abuqital2000
      @Abuqital2000 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Please do and download the mods you won't regret it.

  • @SusCalvin
    @SusCalvin 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    The terrain is as important as the day night cycle. Terrain determines how easy a unit is to hit. It's always good to stand in a castle or town.
    This could give units benefits in different terrain. The elves benefit a lot more from forest cover. Cavalry generally avoids forests, unless it's elf cav. Different units also move faster or slower on certain terrain. The human line infantry and cav is slowed by water and forests.
    The elves in particular have a few ambush units in forests. Units that are invisible as long as they stand in the right terrain and do not attack or bump into others.
    I remember that magic and some other attacks bypassed this, and had a constant hit chance. Magic could be used to dislodge units in heavy cover.

    • @CairnEnjoyer
      @CairnEnjoyer  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      This is also what makes some matchups very difficult, like rebels Vs Northerners for example because they favour very different terrain and on some maps it can make it very difficult to deal with.

    • @SusCalvin
      @SusCalvin 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @CairnEnjoyer Dwarfs used to have a hard time anywhere outside a mountain. But on a hill, they could hold out.
      I made an elf vs dwarf map decades ago where the two sides started in their perfect biome. Dwarfs inside a dense mountainous tunnel complex and the elfs in a sprawling forest. Both could easily defend but not reach out.

  • @CantusTropus
    @CantusTropus 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    WESNOTH CHADS ARISE

  • @thecentralscrutinizerk
    @thecentralscrutinizerk 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    This, Warzone 2100 and Widelands on Knoppix Linux at 8 or 9 years old shaped me irreversibly.

  • @LoneSnow-w3o
    @LoneSnow-w3o วันที่ผ่านมา

    I remember getting it on a CD with like 20 other games from some Magazine next to the ones for TV, will forever be one of my favorite childhood games, never becomes boring

  • @TraxOferta
    @TraxOferta 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Always good to see Wesnoth get attention, love the game, even if I play less of it than I'd like to
    If I have one problem with wesnoth aside from RNG (Which is a problem with RNG in general due to XCOM), is the fact that no ranged units can attack from, you know, RANGE, and instead they have to be in what is essentially melee contact with enemies, always weird and annoys me a ton.

  • @zachseeman5235
    @zachseeman5235 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I played Wesnoth extensively in 2010, I didn't know it was something beyond an aged Linux game.

    • @CairnEnjoyer
      @CairnEnjoyer  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It’s still being continuously developed and has an active community

  • @Matthew-cc4xt
    @Matthew-cc4xt 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Wesnoth was so promising, but it's just so RNG dependent that you either have to save scum like crazy or else likely have a bunch of units that you spent a ton of time raising to 2nd and 3rd class change die because of dumb luck. I think it's a game dev lesson that you rarely want to both have someone build up an RPG character and allow it to just be perma-killed, especially when RNG is so core to the game.

  • @Abuqital2000
    @Abuqital2000 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Love this game , there are so so many scenarios and campaigns to play.

  • @henrymapleton
    @henrymapleton 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    What if Sega continued and expanded Dark Wizard from the Sega CD. Wesnoth is an amazing title and the mod support and custom factions makes this game something you can play forever like Warcraft 3. Always liked how you can toggle mods into custom open rogue-like campaigns and clicking the randomizer units is fun way to play.

    • @CairnEnjoyer
      @CairnEnjoyer  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I’ve been playing one of the multiplayer RPG scenarios today, it feels like a light D&D campaign

  • @MeneltirFalmaro
    @MeneltirFalmaro 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wesnoth was THE game of my childhood. To Lands Unknown addon campaign is especially peak.

  • @johndoe-rq1pu
    @johndoe-rq1pu 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I love Wesnoth so much, but I do sort of hate the inherent metagame of "level all your characters up and then stop using them so you don't 'waste' experience and lock yourself out of winning the campaign."
    But that's probably a me problem.
    I wish there were more mods like LotI that incentivized high level characters.

    • @CairnEnjoyer
      @CairnEnjoyer  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This is why I prefer skirmish matches over multi-scenario campaigns usually.

  • @jacethomas5562
    @jacethomas5562 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I LOVE THIS GAME!
    I still cant decide what faction is my favorite so i random into 2v2s with cpus on whatever maps look fun
    Always making the enemies poopy brown of course

    • @CairnEnjoyer
      @CairnEnjoyer  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I tend to prefer very mobile factions like Rebels, but I’m a big Elf lover. Been trying out Dunefolk recently as well, might make a follow-up video soon playing some online matches as them.

  • @calanjameshunt
    @calanjameshunt 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I loved this game in the day… much recommend to anyone unsure

  • @danentakoto2701
    @danentakoto2701 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I was introduced to this game back in 2008 by an IT friend of my dad's.

  • @Dunleap
    @Dunleap วันที่ผ่านมา

    I use to have it on USB stick, and play it at work in a background. Great Game

  • @kogamei
    @kogamei วันที่ผ่านมา

    a classic, Undead are absolutely broken once you get enough zombies going. fun stuff.

  • @TheJBerg
    @TheJBerg วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dude, I have been playing this game off and on since it came out as a beta. My roommate turned me onto it, and have had it on every computer I've ever owned at one point or another.

  • @JRefumee
    @JRefumee 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good Video. I like seeing youtube videos about wesnoth.
    One note about liminal, in the newest version liminal don't have drawbacks. It only gives +25% between night and day and otherway around.

    • @CairnEnjoyer
      @CairnEnjoyer  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes this was my mistake based on old version, in a more recent video I mentioned that Liminal units just behave as neutral ones aside from a dawn-dusk boost

    • @JRefumee
      @JRefumee 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@CairnEnjoyer Oh there is another one? I'll watch that too of course :)

  • @nightember4706
    @nightember4706 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I loved playing this game.

  • @campbelld.1426
    @campbelld.1426 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love Wesnoth, been installed on every computer I've owned for the last 2 decades. There's also a decent mobile port as well

  • @JRefumee
    @JRefumee วันที่ผ่านมา

    An additional point about Heavy Infantery is, they can get fearless :)
    Sadly you werent lucky with their traits.
    It is interesting that indoor time zone is benefiting chaotic units, normally it should only benefit liminal units.
    Okay, I checked out the scenario file. This indoor castle is different to default wesnoth.

    • @CairnEnjoyer
      @CairnEnjoyer  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      This castle was an *evil* castle lol

  • @BalaamsAss
    @BalaamsAss วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is such a great game, and free too! It reminds me a lot of Shining Force for the Sega Genesis, but with a deeper campaign.
    I tried the port to mobile several years back, and it just wasn't a good one, but maybe it changed since then. However, anyone wanting a great free game for linux and windows, definitely give this a try!

  • @JRefumee
    @JRefumee วันที่ผ่านมา

    Really liking your thumbnails

  • @jmann3790
    @jmann3790 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I felt personally attacked in those first 3 sentences lol😂

  • @Ostvalt
    @Ostvalt 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Never tried the multiplayer. I could be interesting to see how it is. I have been more active on Advance Wars by web scene, so interested how the meta is in Wesnoth.

    • @thuglifebear5256
      @thuglifebear5256 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Pick dwarves and never recruit the dwarves. You can win by spamming the cheap little shits and grabbing undefended villages/exposed units.

  • @JanJansen985
    @JanJansen985 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I remember being laughed at when people were talking Fire Emblem and i said it was like Wesnoth

    • @CairnEnjoyer
      @CairnEnjoyer  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Probably an apt comparison, that or FF Tactics

    • @JanJansen985
      @JanJansen985 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @CairnEnjoyer all them boys making those free games
      They the real ones

  • @Mantelar
    @Mantelar 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    This is the best game of its kind, frankly. And it’s free.

  • @maxlee1423
    @maxlee1423 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I had lots of fun with this game, but the more difficult campaigns become a slog due to accuracy RNG. Also ranged units aren't very ranged, I was hoping for something like in Civ5+ games where you would put archers behind your swordsmen to shoot over them.

    • @CairnEnjoyer
      @CairnEnjoyer  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I mean in earlier Civ games as well you had to bring “ranged” units up close as well.
      I think it’s not that bad, it’s just another damage type to consider and counter melee focused unit. I prefer skirmishes honestly to long campaigns, mostly because I enjoy the faster tactical gameplay.

  • @apollogaming7439
    @apollogaming7439 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This game was incredible

  • @hurricanefist
    @hurricanefist 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    awesome. i was going to ask if you played this after your widelands video.

    • @CairnEnjoyer
      @CairnEnjoyer  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I’ve been meaning to make a video on it for a while and this month I’ve been doing all Opensource games anyway

  • @Markus-w8m
    @Markus-w8m 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    back in the days it felt like this was the only real game for mac.

    • @CairnEnjoyer
      @CairnEnjoyer  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      LinuxChuds and MacChads together in the NoGames alliance

  • @InfiniteGatsu
    @InfiniteGatsu 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    will you review nemesis of the roman empire?

  • @Raidenze
    @Raidenze 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Did they make accuracy better? It's the one thing that is a deal-breaker for me.

    • @CairnEnjoyer
      @CairnEnjoyer  18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I’ve been playing a lot recently and I haven’t found it to be that bad, I do know they have alternate RNG settings you can choose but I’ve just been using default.

  • @mardaumlauf7749
    @mardaumlauf7749 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    And Sand future elves fraction I forgot the name and same time world Chaos humans fraction(mostly there were hints or just a fan version) And Monsters.

  • @vagrant2863
    @vagrant2863 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Fun game but I hate how accuracy works in it

    • @CairnEnjoyer
      @CairnEnjoyer  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      It’s very terrain dependant, being in a “fort” tile for example while your opponent is on a plains tile gives you a huge advantage in accuracy

    • @SusCalvin
      @SusCalvin 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I imagined it as cover. A unit in a forest or a town is more protected than one in an open field.
      Then they could make units work different depending on biome, combined with how many movement points they got.
      Sending spearmen out into a pond to fight mermen got gnarly.
      Some heavy units were always easy to hit, but made up for it with high armour.

  • @GreySectoid
    @GreySectoid 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This game is an open-source classic!

  • @greensoldier2142
    @greensoldier2142 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is the Fantasy fan's Panzer General lol

    • @CairnEnjoyer
      @CairnEnjoyer  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@greensoldier2142 I was actually looking for this game recently, would love to see a modernization of it.

    • @greensoldier2142
      @greensoldier2142 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @CairnEnjoyer Panzer Corps 1 and 2 are spiritual successors to it. There's also Order of Battle but it deviates a bit

  • @blackleon1708
    @blackleon1708 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Its not that deep, its just a wargame with transparent rules. Its actually one of better parts of this game, its pretty easy to understand.

    • @SusCalvin
      @SusCalvin 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      A lot of wargames are simple. I like that it does more with less instead of loading it with too many special abilities and synergies.

    • @blackleon1708
      @blackleon1708 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@SusCalvin yea, I think it's a good thing too

    • @CairnEnjoyer
      @CairnEnjoyer  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Tactically rich might be a better phrase

    • @jacethomas5562
      @jacethomas5562 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes it's so amazing! We need more easy to understand games that can be played forever!

  • @skoub3466
    @skoub3466 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The game doesn't look like the way when I try it

    • @CairnEnjoyer
      @CairnEnjoyer  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Did you download the latest version? Should be 1.18

    • @skoub3466
      @skoub3466 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @CairnEnjoyer I believe it was 0.8 something

  • @lordterra1377
    @lordterra1377 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Whats the point of castle walls if your units can just walk right through them? Seems like a decent game just too simple and some bad game design choices .

    • @jamaro2006
      @jamaro2006 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Just like in real life, walls do nothing if they aren't manned. You can just climb over walls if there isn't somebody ready to stab you at the top

    • @CairnEnjoyer
      @CairnEnjoyer  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      All terrain tiles, including walls, have different defence values, a unit in a fortress wall tile has quite high defence and is able to control the area around it due to the Zone of Control all units except skirmishers possess. Soon I'll share an online game I played recently as Rebels where I make heavy use of terrain features to control the map.

  • @kacpadestro8086
    @kacpadestro8086 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    >easten european
    >Poland

    • @RandomBrownLunchSack
      @RandomBrownLunchSack 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      poland is literally one of the most eastern country in europe

    • @constable117
      @constable117 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Poland cannot, in fact, into Western Europe

    • @kacpadestro8086
      @kacpadestro8086 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Last time i checked on map ITS LITERATLY IN THE MIDDLE OF EUROPE

    • @RandomBrownLunchSack
      @RandomBrownLunchSack 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@kacpadestro8086 that's germany, poland is literally the edge of europe

    • @kacpadestro8086
      @kacpadestro8086 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@RandomBrownLunchSack yours map is broken

  • @Abuqital2000
    @Abuqital2000 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's also available on mobile.