Love how you are showing the problems and solutions. Your quote about how something always goes wrong is absolutely true. One issue I have is trying to "just finish" the project. It can be hard lesson to learn when its time to just step back and re-evaluate your options.
Thank you for the long format, its always nice to see the process and what goes wrong or right. No matter how many times you build there is always something more to learn.
This video is sooo much better than doing a stupid montage. Now we can see all the pain and trouble shooting you go through. As someone who is finishing up my own water cooled build it's nice to know that you can go through the same problems that I have gone through. I don't have a whole warehouse full of spare parts like you but still good to see. Keep this up. THIS is why I started following you for.
THIS!! Really enjoyed seeing all the things Jay went through to make this work. Honestly, I would have had a hard time with the tube angles myself being super ocd, but I'm glad he was ok with it. Speaking of being super ocd, when building something that doesn't turn out the way you like it and the customer is ok, it still drives me crazy that I could not make it perfect. I'm glad I just air cool my system. Even if just one fan failed or didn't work would cost many hours to replace. I've seen some really awesome water cooled systems but would never want to have to work on one.
@@K1Crawford his work isn't stupid the idea of a montage is. We want to watch the problems that come up and how he overcomes them, not just here's the final product. If we wanted to see that we would watch any other youtuber.
@@lazaroth84 you literally said montages are stupid and now that someone called you out on it especially with someone like Phil who's been putting in effort into making good looking montages you now move the goalpost to "the idea of a montage is stupid" Incredible
@@biiyen8458 I stand by what i said. I think montages are stupid. I didnt say phils work is stupid just the idea of montages. you can say what you like but I will always want to watch the process rather than just a 5 second montage and the end result.
I would love to watch Jay build any pc, with any components, for whatever reason. Doesnt have to be a live-stream or no-cut/edit thing, its just so relaxing to sit back playing PC Building Simulator 2 (dam you Epic Games for buying the devs and making it Epic exclusive) and watching/listening to Jay narrate his building experiences in real time. Almost feels like Im building a PC with a buddy. Seriously, more content like this, and I will be happy happy happy.
I would love to get his assistance on building mine, haha.. because he makes everything seem so easy - even when things go wrong. I've built a few PCs before but never with a great case - and I didn't realize having such a modular and customizable case could actually be so overwhelming to start working on - because I actually feel pretty overwhelmed by it even when I'm not trying to do something in particular at this point in time. Jay can make even crazy builds look relatively easy.
seriously, i've planned it out i have everything I need.. everything he had wasn't what he needed it fought tooth and nail the whole step of the way. new rad, new mobo, needed 45 deg fittings, yikes!
beautiful pc case.. but just not wide enough for the EVGA water block (RIP excellent video card manufacture) .. I went with overkill Be Quiet Dark Base 900v2 ..it has tons of space inside and got it $100 off msrp for being a return item.. yay!!
I have been VERY impressed with EKWB. I can get stuff from them in Slovenia faster than I can get stuff from 2 states away in the US. It really makes me wonder why the US companies haven't invested in better logistics. I have ordered full watercooling setups for EKWB in parts for close to a decade now it seems and never been disappointed.
Look up the Universal Postal Union and see why. In many cases it costs way more money to ship within the US vs international to the US. A lot of the countries like China can offer free shipping and fastest possible shipping at very low cost because rich nations like the US subsidizes it. Its really interesting when you read how countries like China keep themselves categorized as "developing nations" while sending spacecraft to Mars and the moon. Ultimately state to state in the US is expensive so companies shy away from the fastest options. Its not usually a logistics problem its usually a cost problem.
DHL handles most international shipping to/from the states that FedEx and UPS don't service directly so they handle significantly less mail. because of that they don't use centralized distribution centers like UPS and FedEx so they're able to deliver regionally which cuts down on shipping time. but i wish people would quit using DHL within the US though because they're just overpaying to ship through USPS.
This build is DejaVu for what I went through the last two months getting mine built. X570 Taichi 5800X3D Velocity2 7900XTX Limited Edition Red Devil 64 GB DDR4 O11D with the back and front distro 2 360mm Corsair Thicc Bois Wound up mounting my two rads directly to the wooden table the PC sits on
I am an oldschool 1985-2005 PC Builder. And after 15 years of Mac back to building a new PC. Your Channel helps me so good to come back in this. Thanks for your work !
In my experience, once the silicon based lifeforms understand that the screwdriver & soldering iron options are on the table, they're much more likely to behave properly
15:52 this is exactly why I would always choose a case much larger than actually needed to do the job. If a build for instance requires something the size of a corsair 4000D case, I would get the 7000D instead. Always better to have that extra bit of space in the case for better airflow, better access to components and more space for liquid cooling loops.
I love this. I can't wait for videos like this to become a series with different cases. Struggling with complicated inter-brand designs always makes this frustrating when you branch away from that one brand and that one design to make something unique of your own.
I feel like this was way better than a scripted guide or walk through. I have been building PC's for almost 20 years and almost always run in to some unforeseen issue, even on simple air cooled builds. Watching you work through the road blocks really illustrates some of the challenges with building a custom PC. Awesome video.
This was my worst nightmare while I was planning my build. I checked every spec multiple times over to verify that everything would fit because I knew somehow that something wasn't going to work like I wanted it to, and I was just praying it wasn't something major. Sure enough, I hadn't planned on how much space I'd need to hide excess cable length near the power supply, and that meant I had to remove the hard drive tray. Only I had planned to use that tray. Thankfully just a few days earlier I had decided to ditch the planned spinning drive in favor of a solid state and that meant all I had to do was attach the drive at the mounting points on the back of the motherboard mounting plate. Made cable routing a little tougher but I can't complain. By all means I got off easy.
This is my favorite video you've done in a while. Not saying your others are bad or anything, they're great, I just really enjoy watching you problem solve a build as it's happening- it's why I like liquid cooling
@@LexLutha it isn't, and shouldn't be done by casual, stop spreading missinformation in regards of things that can literally kill new expensive parts. It isn't easy at all to build.
@@Nobody-su9km lol ok dude. Everyone who water cools in the beginning is a casual. Are you saying to never try something new? You can live like that. My first loop wasn’t terribly difficult.
Beautiful. What a nice boss you must be to work for. All the care you take like it was your own. You are one special person. Fair play to you for showing us the good and the bad. Totally appreciate all you do😀
All the trial and tribulations you had here is exactly why I abandoned internal rads and went with the MO-RA3 420 external radiator and Koolance QD4s. Truly the Cadillac of radiators.
Glad to see you making a hardline tube build video again. I just finished building mine just this past weekend after deciding to swap to an EK Reflection 2 Distribution block for the O11D XL. Swapped out to a 13900KS on a Asus Z790 Apex board. EK Velocity 2 CPU block and EK Velocity GPU 4090 ABP block FE edition as well. I feel your pain having to rethink planning out the loop, distribution plates somewhat confine your ability to route tubing, especially short length ones.
Good luck on your first custom water cooling build! It's worth the trouble, so long as you maintain it. Just keep that in mind. I built a dual radiator workstation from the EVGA 1080 Ti Kingpin Hydro Copper release that still runs renders, and encodes 24/7 for days on end without getting anywhere near hot, and that's with an i7-6950X overclocked to 4GHz. As long as you flush and refill at regular intervals, you're golden, so remember to include a fill port, and a drain port, for your own sake. Godspeed grandpa Pete!
I just got the Montech Sky Two case and loving it. It has great thermals and the fans look great. Easy to build with enough tie down points. I have the issue with the fan controller only going at 100% speed, but a quick email to Montech and they quickly responded that a new controller will be sent out. Would buy again.
I think I would have chosen to just lose the distroplate and go for a traditional pump reservoir mounted to the backside rad support which would have given you the top and bottom mount rad setup
This is imo one of Jays best videoes. Not because he got a lot of problem with the build. But because we get to see how he fixes those problems. I was all in for alle 33min!❤
If you water cooling then the XL should of been the first thing he looked at, obviously he did hardly any research into whether or not his parts would fit. I own the XL and know for a fact everything would of fit fine he bought it
I love seeing these full builds and knowing I'm not the only one that runs into problems that makes it up to a week, if I can get parts fast, building one computer and seeing how Jay handles the problems that I run into as well, except if my parts don't work together, I have to wait until I get them online. Finally! Someone besides me, I've been doing water cooling since 08, 09 maybe and this is the first time someone besides me said a radiator can provide passive cooling. Also, I have an 011D Evo airflow, no distribution plate, and I had a lot of hassles with this "easy to build in" case, I used all EK parts, ended up with a slim 360 in the bottom, a PE rad on top and hanging an FLT 240 rad/res from the top rad. I wanted the best airflow possible because I run Folding@home in the cold winter days and nights, putting full power on my Ryzen 5950x and EVGA 3080 in a full EK water block, I finally got it the way I wanted after changing the configuration multiple times but it runs fantastic now. Now I'm building a personal gaming computer with EK parts in a Corsair 5000D airflow and running into problems making me wish I'd bought another 011D Evo. 🙄😂
With my personal build I had an infinity mirror front panel so front airflow was a bit poor, I used 4 inch bolts to extend the front panel out enough to get good airflow there and used the same method for the side panel glass by simply replacing the thumb screws with longer AIO style fan bolts which allows the glass to sit about an inch away from the case. Rubber grommets against the bolt heads allow the glass to sit securely on the bolts without any vibration or excess pressure. Only mentioning this seemingly unrelated story because of your issue with the card block extending past the side panel when horizontally mounted.
I like the longer format videos, because I’m collecting parts to embarks on my own water cooling project. This gives second hand knowledge of the issues folks run into.
Couldnt agree more. The pain of perfect planning and poor execution, due to "lack of proper" parts, is such a headache. Love the long format, please keep making em !! Greets from Germany
I've run a similar system with a single 60mm 360 up top in that case and it worked great. I currently run a O11D XL with top and side rads. That case solves some of the problems you're seeing but introduces others. Hard tube builds are never straight forward, LoL. And that little rubber block is for the power supply, since it sits a bit above the bottom of the case. I assume it's only somewhat required with really long and/or heavy PSUs.
Two years ago I built the basically the same configuration. Aorus Extreme 3080, Ryzen 5900x, EKWB Front Distro in a Dynamic 011D. My final configuration turned out to be: EK-Quantum CPU water block, EK-Quantum Extreme WB for the GPU. Hardware Labs GT-360 for the top radiator. Alpha Cool ST-25, 360 mm rad for the side panel. I mounted the fans behind the rad, in the back side of the case. This resulted in 2-3 mm of clearance so I could get the side panel on. I used the Lian Li vertical riser in the bottom of the case. Tubing was a little bit of a challenge especially on the top runs between the distro plate and the side radiator, but I managed to make it work. As for my final temps: CPU: 62C in Cinebench R23 GPU: 54C in Heaven 4.0
Hi Jay, i worked on the exact same case, trying to fit dual rads with the exception that mine was a side mounted distro plate. Dual Rad was a must for me given the high end parts i was using. So i lifted the vertical gpu mount for clearance on the bottom rad. Adjusted the PCI E slots on the vertical bracket to the use the furthest 2 slots away from the cpu to create space. It was a really tight fit to get the 2 fittings on the cpu block, so i changed to soft black tubes.
And this kids, is why you should mesure (or look up) the size of your components before ordering them to make sure they fit. I built a tight all watercooled vertical mounted Rtx 4090 system in a O11 Evo with a side distro and mesured almost everything before buying the parts. It turned out amazing but there is not a lot of space left.
I appreciate seeing the grit and the process not just the shiny finished product. This was everything. I love these videos. We love you Jay. seriously your'e a rockstar in your own right.Never doubt that.
Had to modify my own O11D chassis because of the glass too. Ended up frankenstiening a 90 degree mount for my own 3080. Wish i went with an O11D XL. Works great now that the hiccups have been sorted. Great video as always Jay.
It's quite true that you have always something unexpected. Last weekend I built a system for a friend of mine. A lian li evo with 360 galahad but the normal version (not sl120). He wanted to put 3 lian li infinity on the radiator on top while using the fans of the cooler in the side mount. That day we discovered that these fans are smooth where the screw should pass, so they were "optimized" them for the radiator. Long story short we zip-tied them to the side mount bracket, works flawless and are nice too (he loves this modding detail so it's ok)
These longer build out videos are informative and instructional. It helps people see what they be missing or what sizing they might need later down the line.
Yes, this is my jam, love this kind of video, there is always something to learn and it is satisfying to see a build slowly coming together, especially when problems have to be overcome.
One of the reasons why I backed out of using the O11 Dynamic / Air for a build. The chassis is not wide enough, max support coming in at 155mm. A buddy of mine wanted to use the O11 Air, but the 155mm limit didn't fit his Noctua cooler. I wanted to use the O11 Dynamic for my Ryzen 5800X water cooled build, but through research, I found out it wouldn't fit the GPU water block. If Lian-Li JUST made it just 10 ~ 20mm wider. I've used EKwb products since I dipped into custom loops in 2017. Super fast shipping, again considering it's coming from Slovenia. Customer Support is great. My new Quantum Surface CPU block came with a faulty ARGB mounting plate -- LEDs were not working properly. Started an RMA, and they immediately sent me a replacement free-of-charge, and expedited shipping. Amazing people at EKwb.
Yep, that is exactly how liquid cooling goes. I ran a few builds with flexible tubing, and then one with hardline, which I will NEVER again do because as much as I love the look, don't wanna deal with it again. My latest build is just an AIO on the CPU as far as liquid cooling goes. I love liquid cooling but I want ease of maintenance anymore. The build turned out pretty great though! I do love me some distro plates.
Man every nice to watch these builds again, always inspiring to watch what really happens when expectations dont go as planned, luckily he had Jay to help with his mastery of water cooling skills 🙏🙏🙏 very nice job.
Built the same a year ago just flipped the rad 2 90,s done and also upgrade from 5950x to 7950x with same block only diff went from 3080ti to the new strix card and added the Phantex vertical mount which allows the fans in the bottom to stay.
I did my first hard tube build over the new year, had to place 3 separate orders with ek to get all the right stuff. 3 rads in a o11 mini with some 3rd party distro block, fill ports and drain ports are in an impossible location, can only fit index finger from both hands to undo plugs! I didn't have a heat gun so used more fittings to make it all work, probably cost more for additional fittings but considering its my first hard tube build, I was hesitant to try and bend tube. so many issues even though I thought I was very calculated. in the end love the build but not sure I'll do a real custom waterloop.
the case may have put up a fight but in the end it still looked nice and worked, sometimes got to enjoy the little wins we can get after series of unfortunate events. Well done Jay the system came out great and hope AJ enjoys his new rig. Loved the long video thanks Jay Phil and Nic keep up the good work.
Did the same build with a ek classic distroplate a few years ago. When the classic plate came out I bought it right away. When I saw all the parts I knew what was going to happen. I put a 360 rad on top and in the side. There is just enough space behind the panel that you can squeeze a 26mm thick rad with fans behind it. Same with the gpu, saw the card thought to myself not gonna fit bro. But a very nice build another spin from what i did.
love the long format builds. love seeing the struggles and the work arounds, it shows what its really like, cause rarely is it smooth and perfect, its so more often you research till your brain mush , and still need to rethink, and rework.
O11D XL... and still had issues with spacing too Drain... I love the new EKWB drain, where it doesn't take as much room. Also, EKWB has a pressure pump for pressurizing the parts and the loop for testing for leaks. Makes it easy to test!
Thanks Jay for making this video. Ironically I found a custom cooling build on an evo case and I’ve been trying to mimic it with my 4090 a month or so ago. This just helps me out even more. As always thanks for the awesome content 😊
EVERY liquid build never goes quite to plan, and lacking my own warehouse of parts, it is always a matter of what can be done creatively to work around it. What really nails it for me is how some of the creative workarounds really end up making for a uniquely distinctive build.
Ah yes, like that time when I wanted to fly too close to the sun and had to install a radiator and fans on the outside of the top panel, and the build acquired an intense hot rod style
i built in the pcmr version of this case, with same front distro and i vert mounted the gpu. i had to use 360 pe on top and 360se rear mounted with fans behind it( vert mount only allowed 120mm fans and my 10gb sfp+ nic). i also had to dremel the corner of io sheild to fit it with fittings. it was fighting me every part of the way, thanks for making me feel better...thought it was just me.
As someone with a PCMR Dynamic and the aircooled FTW3. That was the exact issue and reason I didnt end up water cooling my card given I had a bottom mount rad in there too. not ideal and stupid how wide the cards are continuing to get. Even the power connectors were close to hard against the glass so had to put 180degree adaptors on them. I hope we see the tony hawk build soon though.
I went through these same problems with this case, a 3080 TI from EVGA and a slightly thicker distro plate. Had no chance of getting a 360 on bottom, but also my vertical cable did not work, and I had a kf processor so troubleshooting wasn't really feasible lol. I left the side panel open and plan to put a 240 on the bottom and 3D print a case extender.
I've been using this distro-plate since October 2021 in my build and it has been great. First time I've done any watercooling on a system and this made it really approachable (I guess that's the right term?). Anyway, good stuff.
Jay really reminds me of what I was like when I was a PC tech in a past life, and what I'd be like if I were still one now. We're about the same age, similar PC nous, but he has a way of explaining things that I'd have a lot of trouble with because I'm over-technical. Like ask me for the time, I end up telling you how to make a watch. But seeing this vid I find myself agreeing more and more with the way he does things. Personally, I'd have gone for a full tower over a mid, more room to work and places for things to go. This also gives me a bit more confidence that a full water-cooling system wouldn't be that difficult to install in my next rig.
hey Jay! Wondering why u didn't just go with overpressure, both top and bottom fans push air in and the rad at the side can then go fanless Since the over pressure force the air out throu the rad, then u get it working, w/o any fans Cheers
Very interesting! Although I must say, this reinforces my aversion to custom watercooling solutions (for myself). All the pipe routing headaches, risks of liquid spills/leaks, etc. just seems more than I'd prefer. I understand the allure of watercooling and that many others are really good at doing it so it's easy for them, but for me, I'll stick to air cooling and maybe AIO only if I have to.
Good recovery on all those issues! But I can see from the condensation, the coolant is pretty warm even at mostly idle. I like my coolant 1-2°C over ambient max idling. And like 7°C over ambient full load.
That is one where the RGB puke looks fantastic. Nice. You have nerves of steel. The furthest I went in computers was adding a stick of RAM to my laptop to dual channel the memory and improve the iGPU to improve games. ( and it was totally worth it. Lows of 13 FPS during combats in DRG are now near 30FPS. )
Superb video Jay. These are the videos that I like watching most from you a complete watercooled build, I only wish you had gone into even more detail about every aspect, its not boring for me as I'm still yet to do my own custom loop watercooled build. Makes me nervous just watching you. Perhaps once I've done/attempted it the niche like flare of a custom watercooled build will ware off
Great video it's good to see some water cooling on your Chanel, seeing the battle you had makes me feel better about some of the problem solving I've had to do with some of my builds I've done in the past.
I have hydro copper. 1- 3080 ftw3 12g and 1- 3080ti ftw3 hydro copper , love the blocks and lighting is bright definitely had to drop below 50% * in fractal meshify , other case was tribute to skunkworks 2.0 Corsair 7000d white
I ran into the same issue using the EK distro plate. The pump is in the bottom right corner, so I could only run 2 fans on the bottom. Ended up running the rad in the side mount and filling the top and bottom with fans. Ran great, but I eventually moved my rig into a Phanteks Luxe2
This has LITERALLY been the story of my life with my computer build since I started trying to mod it and add water cooling. Poor diagrams, new motherboard somehow didn't work with built-in standoffs requiring screws from Lowe's and a crap ton of plastic washers (longer screws to reach through to the standoffs), and so much more. So much empathy for you with this. I'm so glad your your videos, though. They've helped in a huge number of ways when trying to plan our my watercooling.
@@jameskurk5668 Yeah, my problem was trying to do the build/modding on a Saturday, when no local computer stores were open (not a big town area), so my only option was Lowe's.
Its a good video showing the problems you could encounter if you haven't thought about the parts you need and whether they go together, but the case just looks to small and everything looks to cramped together.
I ran into a similar issue with a glass panel sitting to close. I built a PC in the Corsair Crystal 280. I put the fans outside the case on the top and the top glass panel was too close. So I used silicone washers to space out the glass and used longer screws. Have plenty of clearance for air flow and looked great. Probably coulda done the same thing on the side glass panel to space it out from the GPU
Looks like a similar build to mine, but I used EK parts & distro plate instead. I used thin Noctua fans on the vertically mounted side rad between it and the case... Its a tight fit but i measured that case perfectly and managed to squeeze in 2x360 rads.. one on the top and another on the side. However with such close tolerences it does mean It's a PITA to take entirely apart for a good cleaning 🤣🤣
It was a pain to get this EkWb set up to fit in my o11d. I have the rad top mounted and it was a bit thick. I had to order different length extensions and 90 degree connectors to get the tubes on. Also had to bend an offset in one of the rad tubes so that it would fit past the i/o mount. I love how it looks. Just wasn't easy for a first time watercooling build and bending rigid this small
I had the same exact issue and frustration when I got my hydrocopper in my lian li. I put the same riser you did and it just refused to boot. Was frustrating me to no end. Found out the issue was the riser kit I had was a older one with PCI gen3 riser. I got a new riser that was gen4 and it worked flawlessly. But man did it cost me many hours figuring out my issues.
Thanks Jay and team for a great video! I have the same case and remember there were A LOT of considerations when building a custom watercooled system in there with 2x 360 rads and distro plate, mainly the clearance of the bottom rad with the fittings of the GPU not interfering. I researched so much dimensions prior to the build just to make sure everything fit and it STILL didn't when I first attempted. I also noticed that the depth of the mobo area is not as tall as many cases so upgrading to a 4090 is out of the question(sticks out like that 3080) so I'll have buy a new case to build in if I do end up going 4090. Quite the learning experience.
01:30 I purchased an EVGA 3080TI FTW3 late last year just before they were gone. I have always loved EVGA GPU's and I was really sad to see them go. Now in the future I will need to find another good brand
Awesome video, really shows how planning doesn't always work out and then problem solving to get it all to work together. Love this kind of video mostly because been there myself and laughed when you pointed out the graphics card sticking out too far.
I will agree with how much passive flow over a rad is underated. I have a 240 NZXT AIO with 2 fans. One of the fans died within a month after install. I got busy and forgot about it, but all have cpu temps have been really cool.
Thanks for sharing the struggles, interesting vid! As much as the o11 is supposed to be a case for waterbuilds, going with a distro plate complicates things massively as I experienced with a ROG XL version.. 2* EKWB medium thick 360 rads (new type) and I had an absolute HELL getting everything to fit right with a front EKWB distro (new version as well, hard lining, EKWB fittings etc.) The vertical mount made things extra complicated just as you experienced, being either high or too low. It was a threadripper 3 build which the user wanted as quiet as possible, everything went wrong from bends not being tight enough, first fill of (mystic fog) coolant dropping dead and staining EVERYTHING, to not being able to drain the loop as well as hoped due to aforementioned 360 rads + 1 hidden 120 rad and crazy intricate looping around the rads and back (made it way to hard for myself...) Looking back I'm just glad to see dear Jayz2c struggling just as much with the placements of parts with a distro 😬
awesome build but that's why I use soft tubing...it's a PITA to do hard tubing...you can use a the brake line bleeder hand pump from harbor freight to do a quick and dirty leak test if you don't want to invest in one just for that just don't pump it more than about 5 times...
Vertical side rad + top rad, the ports for the side rad need to be at the bottom or they interfere with the top rack. Ask me how I know... The EKWB front plate at least has the fill port on the outside.
Get the Hercules pump makes a huge difference, I did the thick 360 up top for my build with the 3090ti and 5900x ran into all the same problems made me feel better about my choice thanks
Hence why I used O11D XL case for both of my rigs (plenty of room for 3 rads) and the EK vertical graphics holders (zero sag as it is held at both ends). I'm not a fan of the big distro pump/blocks although I used the Phanteks Glacier D120 distro to join the GPU to CPU and run Singularity Computers D150 pump/res combos. Like your friend (and another comment I noticed here), EKWB seems to provide very quick service to me (Australia)... my record is just shy of 3 days from placing the order to being in my hands.
Another excellent video, I like Phil's montage, but man seeing this kinda of thing is soo good! Learned a lot with this! I'm thinking in doing an open loop in a few years, and that kind of thing helps me to get ready for what could happen and how to solve things. Thank you very much Jay!
If you've never done water cooling before it can be easy to underestimate how much planning has to go into a loop. It took me like 2 weeks to build my most recent pc because it needed at least 5 different fittings that I had to order to make all my runs. Only to have to do it all over again because I got a bad batch of primo chill fluid that stained my tubing and clogged both of my blocks.
I tried putting together a watercooling build in this case a while back ... ran into the same issues you are having. I didn't choose the case thankfully, so the fact it didn't work properly wasn't my fault 🙂 Ended up moving it all to a TermalTake W200 case ... which is kinda the other extreme. I love the 011D Dynamic case ... but it just isn't that good for custom watercooling.
I bought my o011 Dynamic in either 2018 or 2019 because it was so different from what i was used to and now of course its the staple of over used cases. I have done 3 builds in the case and its still sturdy as ever. Im gonna stick with it for 1 more year i think.
really do enjoy the build log style. i enjoy seeing the challenges of the build and you talking about how you overcame them. or were unable to. either way, its more interesting.maybe a phil montage for the actual tube bending though so we can still see you doing it.
Love the video hope you do more like this, this year. I personally would of done a thin rad on the side. Maybe not with fans on it. This way that big hole is filled and has some extra cooling. Granted only passive cooling, but cooling none the less. Also I know it is too late but you should look into the Bykski drain fittings. They have a really cool push/pull instead of a lever valve drain fitting. It has made some builds really easy. I have used it for a couple years and have had zero issues with it.
And now Jay knows why I chose to externally mount my pump and radiators. I used 2 bulkhead fittings to go through the case and plumbed everything with rigid externally. Internally I used soft tubing so upgrades would be easier.
LOL currently in the same boat with my 011 Dynamic razer adition, do to the power cables=no side panel. love video's where it's all about the "ugh well....shit that aint right"
Now this is a realistic pc build with all the pain lol. I have a similar build. Use to have the older ekwb distro plate but upgraded to a aquacomputer d5 pump. Honestly to keep the temps cool, the intake is important. I have a thick alphacool radiator on the side but have to remove rivets and drill a hole for the drain port. I have phanteks t30 fans that pull in air well on the side and fans on top of the case. My pc parts are a generation older so cooling is not too much of an issue.
Love this. Definitely awesome getting to see you build again . Cannot wait to see the progress on your pc. I’m currently building my first pc ever. After watching you for the last 9 years I’m finally trying it myself. Going from a ryzen fx cpu to the ryzen 9 7900x ❤
Even though this wasn't meant to be a guide, the tips shared throughout are priceless. Thanks Mr. TwoCents.
I think Two is his middle name.
looks like a guide how not too do
something. For sure he bent that pin doing that janky ''push this cooler on top of it''
Love how you are showing the problems and solutions. Your quote about how something always goes wrong is absolutely true. One issue I have is trying to "just finish" the project. It can be hard lesson to learn when its time to just step back and re-evaluate your options.
Thank you for the long format, its always nice to see the process and what goes wrong or right. No matter how many times you build there is always something more to learn.
This video is sooo much better than doing a stupid montage. Now we can see all the pain and trouble shooting you go through. As someone who is finishing up my own water cooled build it's nice to know that you can go through the same problems that I have gone through. I don't have a whole warehouse full of spare parts like you but still good to see. Keep this up. THIS is why I started following you for.
THIS!! Really enjoyed seeing all the things Jay went through to make this work. Honestly, I would have had a hard time with the tube angles myself being super ocd, but I'm glad he was ok with it. Speaking of being super ocd, when building something that doesn't turn out the way you like it and the customer is ok, it still drives me crazy that I could not make it perfect. I'm glad I just air cool my system. Even if just one fan failed or didn't work would cost many hours to replace. I've seen some really awesome water cooled systems but would never want to have to work on one.
So you're saying Phil's work... the time he puts into editing....stupid?
Bit of a insensitive comment don't you think?
@@K1Crawford his work isn't stupid the idea of a montage is. We want to watch the problems that come up and how he overcomes them, not just here's the final product. If we wanted to see that we would watch any other youtuber.
@@lazaroth84 you literally said montages are stupid and now that someone called you out on it especially with someone like Phil who's been putting in effort into making good looking montages you now move the goalpost to "the idea of a montage is stupid"
Incredible
@@biiyen8458 I stand by what i said. I think montages are stupid. I didnt say phils work is stupid just the idea of montages. you can say what you like but I will always want to watch the process rather than just a 5 second montage and the end result.
I would love to watch Jay build any pc, with any components, for whatever reason. Doesnt have to be a live-stream or no-cut/edit thing, its just so relaxing to sit back playing PC Building Simulator 2 (dam you Epic Games for buying the devs and making it Epic exclusive) and watching/listening to Jay narrate his building experiences in real time. Almost feels like Im building a PC with a buddy.
Seriously, more content like this, and I will be happy happy happy.
I would love to get his assistance on building mine, haha.. because he makes everything seem so easy - even when things go wrong.
I've built a few PCs before but never with a great case - and I didn't realize having such a modular and customizable case could actually be so overwhelming to start working on - because I actually feel pretty overwhelmed by it even when I'm not trying to do something in particular at this point in time. Jay can make even crazy builds look relatively easy.
great....yet another game I would've loved to play, but didn't even know it existed because it's Epic exclusive. They suck so much at this stuff
It's good to see Jay complete a PC build in one video.
power cycle it again
Man this was a series of unfortunate events with really nice parts
seriously, i've planned it out i have everything I need.. everything he had wasn't what he needed it fought tooth and nail the whole step of the way. new rad, new mobo, needed 45 deg fittings, yikes!
@@JJiG how it goes sometimes. ya think you thought everything through and miss one measurement and it all goes to sheet.
beautiful pc case.. but just not wide enough for the EVGA water block (RIP excellent video card manufacture) .. I went with overkill Be Quiet Dark Base 900v2 ..it has tons of space inside and got it $100 off msrp for being a return item.. yay!!
The case was about 10% too small.
@@richardhswan8069 plane it lol
Love these longer computer builds, so nice to see the hurdles other people have to overcome to finish a system!
I have been VERY impressed with EKWB. I can get stuff from them in Slovenia faster than I can get stuff from 2 states away in the US. It really makes me wonder why the US companies haven't invested in better logistics. I have ordered full watercooling setups for EKWB in parts for close to a decade now it seems and never been disappointed.
Look up the Universal Postal Union and see why. In many cases it costs way more money to ship within the US vs international to the US. A lot of the countries like China can offer free shipping and fastest possible shipping at very low cost because rich nations like the US subsidizes it. Its really interesting when you read how countries like China keep themselves categorized as "developing nations" while sending spacecraft to Mars and the moon. Ultimately state to state in the US is expensive so companies shy away from the fastest options. Its not usually a logistics problem its usually a cost problem.
DHL Express is a huge factor, clearing customs quickly is their jam, and they typically carry only small packages that ship through airports
DHL handles most international shipping to/from the states that FedEx and UPS don't service directly so they handle significantly less mail. because of that they don't use centralized distribution centers like UPS and FedEx so they're able to deliver regionally which cuts down on shipping time. but i wish people would quit using DHL within the US though because they're just overpaying to ship through USPS.
@@boxlid214 DHL is the absolute king of express international shipping
They probably have, but muricans send so much stuff around the place they have to delay something.
This build is DejaVu for what I went through the last two months getting mine built.
X570 Taichi
5800X3D Velocity2
7900XTX Limited Edition Red Devil
64 GB DDR4
O11D with the back and front distro
2 360mm Corsair Thicc Bois
Wound up mounting my two rads directly to the wooden table the PC sits on
Love this style of video. It’s so realistic and there is so much more to learn
I am an oldschool 1985-2005 PC Builder. And after 15 years of Mac back to building a new PC. Your Channel helps me so good to come back in this. Thanks for your work !
I try to live the peaceful life and not fight any of my electronic devices.
Some ED's are lusty rougues with an appetite for battle. Lol
John Conner said the same thing before Skynet went online.
In my experience, once the silicon based lifeforms understand that the screwdriver & soldering iron options are on the table, they're much more likely to behave properly
🤣🤣🤣👍💾
hows that working out for you
15:52 this is exactly why I would always choose a case much larger than actually needed to do the job. If a build for instance requires something the size of a corsair 4000D case, I would get the 7000D instead. Always better to have that extra bit of space in the case for better airflow, better access to components and more space for liquid cooling loops.
I love this. I can't wait for videos like this to become a series with different cases. Struggling with complicated inter-brand designs always makes this frustrating when you branch away from that one brand and that one design to make something unique of your own.
I feel like this was way better than a scripted guide or walk through. I have been building PC's for almost 20 years and almost always run in to some unforeseen issue, even on simple air cooled builds. Watching you work through the road blocks really illustrates some of the challenges with building a custom PC. Awesome video.
This was my worst nightmare while I was planning my build. I checked every spec multiple times over to verify that everything would fit because I knew somehow that something wasn't going to work like I wanted it to, and I was just praying it wasn't something major.
Sure enough, I hadn't planned on how much space I'd need to hide excess cable length near the power supply, and that meant I had to remove the hard drive tray. Only I had planned to use that tray. Thankfully just a few days earlier I had decided to ditch the planned spinning drive in favor of a solid state and that meant all I had to do was attach the drive at the mounting points on the back of the motherboard mounting plate. Made cable routing a little tougher but I can't complain. By all means I got off easy.
This is my favorite video you've done in a while. Not saying your others are bad or anything, they're great, I just really enjoy watching you problem solve a build as it's happening- it's why I like liquid cooling
I appreciate videos like this. It reminds me why I stick with good old fashioned air cooling.
Beautiful builds don’t come easy. The end result is so worth it thought
@@LexLutha unless you do ANYTHING wrong, then the result is multiple parts coocked.
@@Nobody-su9km it’s way easier than you think. All in ones have a better chance of leaking honestly. They are made with the cheapest parts possible.
@@LexLutha it isn't, and shouldn't be done by casual, stop spreading missinformation in regards of things that can literally kill new expensive parts.
It isn't easy at all to build.
@@Nobody-su9km lol ok dude. Everyone who water cools in the beginning is a casual. Are you saying to never try something new? You can live like that. My first loop wasn’t terribly difficult.
Beautiful. What a nice boss you must be to work for. All the care you take like it was your own. You are one special person. Fair play to you for showing us the good and the bad. Totally appreciate all you do😀
All the trial and tribulations you had here is exactly why I abandoned internal rads and went with the MO-RA3 420 external radiator and Koolance QD4s. Truly the Cadillac of radiators.
Glad to see you making a hardline tube build video again. I just finished building mine just this past weekend after deciding to swap to an EK Reflection 2 Distribution block for the O11D XL. Swapped out to a 13900KS on a Asus Z790 Apex board. EK Velocity 2 CPU block and EK Velocity GPU 4090 ABP block FE edition as well. I feel your pain having to rethink planning out the loop, distribution plates somewhat confine your ability to route tubing, especially short length ones.
I like the long format video. It makes me feel a little bit more normal putting together my builds 👍
Enjoying these build videos. I`m working up the courage to do my first water cooled build. Have mercy I`m an old retired fart !
Good luck on your first custom water cooling build! It's worth the trouble, so long as you maintain it. Just keep that in mind. I built a dual radiator workstation from the EVGA 1080 Ti Kingpin Hydro Copper release that still runs renders, and encodes 24/7 for days on end without getting anywhere near hot, and that's with an i7-6950X overclocked to 4GHz. As long as you flush and refill at regular intervals, you're golden, so remember to include a fill port, and a drain port, for your own sake. Godspeed grandpa Pete!
@@JeradBenge Cheers. My main ambition is to avoid flood based electrocution..... 😥
Fill water with mobo disconnected. You don't short anything if it leaks then.
@@jameskurk5668 Good tip cheers.
It’s really easy. You’d have to be really careless to get a leak.
I just got the Montech Sky Two case and loving it. It has great thermals and the fans look great. Easy to build with enough tie down points. I have the issue with the fan controller only going at 100% speed, but a quick email to Montech and they quickly responded that a new controller will be sent out. Would buy again.
I think I would have chosen to just lose the distroplate and go for a traditional pump reservoir mounted to the backside rad support which would have given you the top and bottom mount rad setup
And made it sensible to go parallel from cpu to gpu, which looks like it's perfectly aligned.
100% man.
This is imo one of Jays best videoes. Not because he got a lot of problem with the build. But because we get to see how he fixes those problems. I was all in for alle 33min!❤
shoulda got the o11 dynamic XL
If you water cooling then the XL should of been the first thing he looked at, obviously he did hardly any research into whether or not his parts would fit. I own the XL and know for a fact everything would of fit fine he bought it
@@cosmicgrim7963 same
thx for the long format. seeing you bump in to small problem after small problem is gold. Experience is still the best teacher
I love seeing these full builds and knowing I'm not the only one that runs into problems that makes it up to a week, if I can get parts fast, building one computer and seeing how Jay handles the problems that I run into as well, except if my parts don't work together, I have to wait until I get them online.
Finally! Someone besides me, I've been doing water cooling since 08, 09 maybe and this is the first time someone besides me said a radiator can provide passive cooling. Also, I have an 011D Evo airflow, no distribution plate, and I had a lot of hassles with this "easy to build in" case, I used all EK parts, ended up with a slim 360 in the bottom, a PE rad on top and hanging an FLT 240 rad/res from the top rad. I wanted the best airflow possible because I run Folding@home in the cold winter days and nights, putting full power on my Ryzen 5950x and EVGA 3080 in a full EK water block, I finally got it the way I wanted after changing the configuration multiple times but it runs fantastic now.
Now I'm building a personal gaming computer with EK parts in a Corsair 5000D airflow and running into problems making me wish I'd bought another 011D Evo. 🙄😂
With my personal build I had an infinity mirror front panel so front airflow was a bit poor, I used 4 inch bolts to extend the front panel out enough to get good airflow there and used the same method for the side panel glass by simply replacing the thumb screws with longer AIO style fan bolts which allows the glass to sit about an inch away from the case. Rubber grommets against the bolt heads allow the glass to sit securely on the bolts without any vibration or excess pressure. Only mentioning this seemingly unrelated story because of your issue with the card block extending past the side panel when horizontally mounted.
I like the longer format videos, because I’m collecting parts to embarks on my own water cooling project. This gives second hand knowledge of the issues folks run into.
Couldnt agree more. The pain of perfect planning and poor execution, due to "lack of proper" parts, is such a headache. Love the long format, please keep making em !! Greets from Germany
FINALLY a build video!!! Thanks for not having another "talking head" or gossip video. This is the old Jay I love.
I've run a similar system with a single 60mm 360 up top in that case and it worked great. I currently run a O11D XL with top and side rads. That case solves some of the problems you're seeing but introduces others. Hard tube builds are never straight forward, LoL.
And that little rubber block is for the power supply, since it sits a bit above the bottom of the case. I assume it's only somewhat required with really long and/or heavy PSUs.
Two years ago I built the basically the same configuration. Aorus Extreme 3080, Ryzen 5900x, EKWB Front Distro in a Dynamic 011D.
My final configuration turned out to be:
EK-Quantum CPU water block, EK-Quantum Extreme WB for the GPU.
Hardware Labs GT-360 for the top radiator. Alpha Cool ST-25, 360 mm rad for the side panel. I mounted the fans behind the rad, in the back side of the case. This resulted in 2-3 mm of clearance so I could get the side panel on. I used the Lian Li vertical riser in the bottom of the case.
Tubing was a little bit of a challenge especially on the top runs between the distro plate and the side radiator, but I managed to make it work.
As for my final temps:
CPU: 62C in Cinebench R23
GPU: 54C in Heaven 4.0
Hi Jay, i worked on the exact same case, trying to fit dual rads with the exception that mine was a side mounted distro plate. Dual Rad was a must for me given the high end parts i was using. So i lifted the vertical gpu mount for clearance on the bottom rad. Adjusted the PCI E slots on the vertical bracket to the use the furthest 2 slots away from the cpu to create space. It was a really tight fit to get the 2 fittings on the cpu block, so i changed to soft black tubes.
And this kids, is why you should mesure (or look up) the size of your components before ordering them to make sure they fit. I built a tight all watercooled vertical mounted Rtx 4090 system in a O11 Evo with a side distro and mesured almost everything before buying the parts. It turned out amazing but there is not a lot of space left.
I appreciate seeing the grit and the process not just the shiny finished product. This was everything. I love these videos. We love you Jay. seriously your'e a rockstar in your own right.Never doubt that.
Had to modify my own O11D chassis because of the glass too. Ended up frankenstiening a 90 degree mount for my own 3080. Wish i went with an O11D XL. Works great now that the hiccups have been sorted. Great video as always Jay.
It's quite true that you have always something unexpected. Last weekend I built a system for a friend of mine. A lian li evo with 360 galahad but the normal version (not sl120). He wanted to put 3 lian li infinity on the radiator on top while using the fans of the cooler in the side mount. That day we discovered that these fans are smooth where the screw should pass, so they were "optimized" them for the radiator. Long story short we zip-tied them to the side mount bracket, works flawless and are nice too (he loves this modding detail so it's ok)
These longer build out videos are informative and instructional. It helps people see what they be missing or what sizing they might need later down the line.
Yes, this is my jam, love this kind of video, there is always something to learn and it is satisfying to see a build slowly coming together, especially when problems have to be overcome.
One of the reasons why I backed out of using the O11 Dynamic / Air for a build. The chassis is not wide enough, max support coming in at 155mm. A buddy of mine wanted to use the O11 Air, but the 155mm limit didn't fit his Noctua cooler. I wanted to use the O11 Dynamic for my Ryzen 5800X water cooled build, but through research, I found out it wouldn't fit the GPU water block. If Lian-Li JUST made it just 10 ~ 20mm wider.
I've used EKwb products since I dipped into custom loops in 2017. Super fast shipping, again considering it's coming from Slovenia. Customer Support is great. My new Quantum Surface CPU block came with a faulty ARGB mounting plate -- LEDs were not working properly. Started an RMA, and they immediately sent me a replacement free-of-charge, and expedited shipping. Amazing people at EKwb.
Yep, that is exactly how liquid cooling goes. I ran a few builds with flexible tubing, and then one with hardline, which I will NEVER again do because as much as I love the look, don't wanna deal with it again. My latest build is just an AIO on the CPU as far as liquid cooling goes. I love liquid cooling but I want ease of maintenance anymore. The build turned out pretty great though! I do love me some distro plates.
15:12
I had that same exact problem with this case......
As you said, "Something always goes wrong"
Man every nice to watch these builds again, always inspiring to watch what really happens when expectations dont go as planned, luckily he had Jay to help with his mastery of water cooling skills 🙏🙏🙏 very nice job.
15:30 simple fix, longer screws and rubber grommets for panel, you’ll have a 2-3 cm gap on your side but hey better air flow
Another person who has no idea how an 011 side panel works
Built the same a year ago just flipped the rad 2 90,s done and also upgrade from 5950x to 7950x with same block only diff went from 3080ti to the new strix card and added the Phantex vertical mount which allows the fans in the bottom to stay.
I did my first hard tube build over the new year, had to place 3 separate orders with ek to get all the right stuff. 3 rads in a o11 mini with some 3rd party distro block, fill ports and drain ports are in an impossible location, can only fit index finger from both hands to undo plugs! I didn't have a heat gun so used more fittings to make it all work, probably cost more for additional fittings but considering its my first hard tube build, I was hesitant to try and bend tube. so many issues even though I thought I was very calculated. in the end love the build but not sure I'll do a real custom waterloop.
the case may have put up a fight but in the end it still looked nice and worked, sometimes got to enjoy the little wins we can get after series of unfortunate events. Well done Jay the system came out great and hope AJ enjoys his new rig. Loved the long video thanks Jay Phil and Nic keep up the good work.
Did the same build with a ek classic distroplate a few years ago. When the classic plate came out I bought it right away. When I saw all the parts I knew what was going to happen. I put a 360 rad on top and in the side. There is just enough space behind the panel that you can squeeze a 26mm thick rad with fans behind it. Same with the gpu, saw the card thought to myself not gonna fit bro. But a very nice build another spin from what i did.
love the long format builds. love seeing the struggles and the work arounds, it shows what its really like, cause rarely is it smooth and perfect, its so more often you research till your brain mush , and still need to rethink, and rework.
@15:20 - just O11D problems. This is the reason I went vert mount on my O11D using their bracket. I have side intake and top exhaust due to that.
O11D XL... and still had issues with spacing too
Drain... I love the new EKWB drain, where it doesn't take as much room.
Also, EKWB has a pressure pump for pressurizing the parts and the loop for testing for leaks. Makes it easy to test!
Thanks Jay for making this video. Ironically I found a custom cooling build on an evo case and I’ve been trying to mimic it with my 4090 a month or so ago. This just helps me out even more. As always thanks for the awesome content 😊
EVERY liquid build never goes quite to plan, and lacking my own warehouse of parts, it is always a matter of what can be done creatively to work around it. What really nails it for me is how some of the creative workarounds really end up making for a uniquely distinctive build.
Ah yes, like that time when I wanted to fly too close to the sun and had to install a radiator and fans on the outside of the top panel, and the build acquired an intense hot rod style
i built in the pcmr version of this case, with same front distro and i vert mounted the gpu. i had to use 360 pe on top and 360se rear mounted with fans behind it( vert mount only allowed 120mm fans and my 10gb sfp+ nic). i also had to dremel the corner of io sheild to fit it with fittings. it was fighting me every part of the way, thanks for making me feel better...thought it was just me.
As someone with a PCMR Dynamic and the aircooled FTW3. That was the exact issue and reason I didnt end up water cooling my card given I had a bottom mount rad in there too. not ideal and stupid how wide the cards are continuing to get. Even the power connectors were close to hard against the glass so had to put 180degree adaptors on them.
I hope we see the tony hawk build soon though.
Thanks this film. My case plan to set up this water cooling . This film help me.
Love this “real world” video… you are the best mate to have to do a build! Swap this out Jay!! Thank you for a great build!!
I went through these same problems with this case, a 3080 TI from EVGA and a slightly thicker distro plate. Had no chance of getting a 360 on bottom, but also my vertical cable did not work, and I had a kf processor so troubleshooting wasn't really feasible lol.
I left the side panel open and plan to put a 240 on the bottom and 3D print a case extender.
I've been using this distro-plate since October 2021 in my build and it has been great. First time I've done any watercooling on a system and this made it really approachable (I guess that's the right term?).
Anyway, good stuff.
Jay really reminds me of what I was like when I was a PC tech in a past life, and what I'd be like if I were still one now. We're about the same age, similar PC nous, but he has a way of explaining things that I'd have a lot of trouble with because I'm over-technical. Like ask me for the time, I end up telling you how to make a watch. But seeing this vid I find myself agreeing more and more with the way he does things. Personally, I'd have gone for a full tower over a mid, more room to work and places for things to go. This also gives me a bit more confidence that a full water-cooling system wouldn't be that difficult to install in my next rig.
hey Jay!
Wondering why u didn't just go with overpressure, both top and bottom fans push air in and the rad at the side can then go fanless
Since the over pressure force the air out throu the rad, then u get it working, w/o any fans
Cheers
love it, makes me feel better about the problems with my new build and getting things to work together.
Very interesting! Although I must say, this reinforces my aversion to custom watercooling solutions (for myself). All the pipe routing headaches, risks of liquid spills/leaks, etc. just seems more than I'd prefer. I understand the allure of watercooling and that many others are really good at doing it so it's easy for them, but for me, I'll stick to air cooling and maybe AIO only if I have to.
Good recovery on all those issues! But I can see from the condensation, the coolant is pretty warm even at mostly idle. I like my coolant 1-2°C over ambient max idling. And like 7°C over ambient full load.
That is one where the RGB puke looks fantastic. Nice. You have nerves of steel. The furthest I went in computers was adding a stick of RAM to my laptop to dual channel the memory and improve the iGPU to improve games. ( and it was totally worth it. Lows of 13 FPS during combats in DRG are now near 30FPS. )
Superb video Jay. These are the videos that I like watching most from you a complete watercooled build, I only wish you had gone into even more detail about every aspect, its not boring for me as I'm still yet to do my own custom loop watercooled build. Makes me nervous just watching you. Perhaps once I've done/attempted it the niche like flare of a custom watercooled build will ware off
Great video it's good to see some water cooling on your Chanel, seeing the battle you had makes me feel better about some of the problem solving I've had to do with some of my builds I've done in the past.
I have hydro copper. 1- 3080 ftw3 12g and 1- 3080ti ftw3 hydro copper , love the blocks and lighting is bright definitely had to drop below 50% * in fractal meshify , other case was tribute to skunkworks 2.0 Corsair 7000d white
I ran into the same issue using the EK distro plate. The pump is in the bottom right corner, so I could only run 2 fans on the bottom. Ended up running the rad in the side mount and filling the top and bottom with fans. Ran great, but I eventually moved my rig into a Phanteks Luxe2
This has LITERALLY been the story of my life with my computer build since I started trying to mod it and add water cooling. Poor diagrams, new motherboard somehow didn't work with built-in standoffs requiring screws from Lowe's and a crap ton of plastic washers (longer screws to reach through to the standoffs), and so much more. So much empathy for you with this. I'm so glad your your videos, though. They've helped in a huge number of ways when trying to plan our my watercooling.
They make different stand offs. And you can stack them.
@@jameskurk5668 Yeah, my problem was trying to do the build/modding on a Saturday, when no local computer stores were open (not a big town area), so my only option was Lowe's.
@@MrStarTipper ahh, that's when I delay the build, and get the right parts.
Its a good video showing the problems you could encounter if you haven't thought about the parts you need and whether they go together, but the case just looks to small and everything looks to cramped together.
I ran into a similar issue with a glass panel sitting to close. I built a PC in the Corsair Crystal 280. I put the fans outside the case on the top and the top glass panel was too close. So I used silicone washers to space out the glass and used longer screws. Have plenty of clearance for air flow and looked great. Probably coulda done the same thing on the side glass panel to space it out from the GPU
Looks like a similar build to mine, but I used EK parts & distro plate instead. I used thin Noctua fans on the vertically mounted side rad between it and the case... Its a tight fit but i measured that case perfectly and managed to squeeze in 2x360 rads.. one on the top and another on the side. However with such close tolerences it does mean It's a PITA to take entirely apart for a good cleaning 🤣🤣
It was a pain to get this EkWb set up to fit in my o11d. I have the rad top mounted and it was a bit thick. I had to order different length extensions and 90 degree connectors to get the tubes on. Also had to bend an offset in one of the rad tubes so that it would fit past the i/o mount. I love how it looks. Just wasn't easy for a first time watercooling build and bending rigid this small
I had the same exact issue and frustration when I got my hydrocopper in my lian li. I put the same riser you did and it just refused to boot. Was frustrating me to no end. Found out the issue was the riser kit I had was a older one with PCI gen3 riser. I got a new riser that was gen4 and it worked flawlessly. But man did it cost me many hours figuring out my issues.
Thanks Jay and team for a great video! I have the same case and remember there were A LOT of considerations when building a custom watercooled system in there with 2x 360 rads and distro plate, mainly the clearance of the bottom rad with the fittings of the GPU not interfering. I researched so much dimensions prior to the build just to make sure everything fit and it STILL didn't when I first attempted. I also noticed that the depth of the mobo area is not as tall as many cases so upgrading to a 4090 is out of the question(sticks out like that 3080) so I'll have buy a new case to build in if I do end up going 4090. Quite the learning experience.
01:30 I purchased an EVGA 3080TI FTW3 late last year just before they were gone. I have always loved EVGA GPU's and I was really sad to see them go. Now in the future I will need to find another good brand
Awesome video, really shows how planning doesn't always work out and then problem solving to get it all to work together. Love this kind of video mostly because been there myself and laughed when you pointed out the graphics card sticking out too far.
I will agree with how much passive flow over a rad is underated. I have a 240 NZXT AIO with 2 fans. One of the fans died within a month after install. I got busy and forgot about it, but all have cpu temps have been really cool.
Thanks for sharing the struggles, interesting vid! As much as the o11 is supposed to be a case for waterbuilds, going with a distro plate complicates things massively as I experienced with a ROG XL version.. 2* EKWB medium thick 360 rads (new type) and I had an absolute HELL getting everything to fit right with a front EKWB distro (new version as well, hard lining, EKWB fittings etc.) The vertical mount made things extra complicated just as you experienced, being either high or too low.
It was a threadripper 3 build which the user wanted as quiet as possible, everything went wrong from bends not being tight enough, first fill of (mystic fog) coolant dropping dead and staining EVERYTHING, to not being able to drain the loop as well as hoped due to aforementioned 360 rads + 1 hidden 120 rad and crazy intricate looping around the rads and back (made it way to hard for myself...)
Looking back I'm just glad to see dear Jayz2c struggling just as much with the placements of parts with a distro 😬
awesome build but that's why I use soft tubing...it's a PITA to do hard tubing...you can use a the brake line bleeder hand pump from harbor freight to do a quick and dirty leak test if you don't want to invest in one just for that just don't pump it more than about 5 times...
Vertical side rad + top rad, the ports for the side rad need to be at the bottom or they interfere with the top rack.
Ask me how I know...
The EKWB front plate at least has the fill port on the outside.
Get the Hercules pump makes a huge difference, I did the thick 360 up top for my build with the 3090ti and 5900x ran into all the same problems made me feel better about my choice thanks
Hence why I used O11D XL case for both of my rigs (plenty of room for 3 rads) and the EK vertical graphics holders (zero sag as it is held at both ends). I'm not a fan of the big distro pump/blocks although I used the Phanteks Glacier D120 distro to join the GPU to CPU and run Singularity Computers D150 pump/res combos.
Like your friend (and another comment I noticed here), EKWB seems to provide very quick service to me (Australia)... my record is just shy of 3 days from placing the order to being in my hands.
Another excellent video, I like Phil's montage, but man seeing this kinda of thing is soo good! Learned a lot with this! I'm thinking in doing an open loop in a few years, and that kind of thing helps me to get ready for what could happen and how to solve things.
Thank you very much Jay!
If you've never done water cooling before it can be easy to underestimate how much planning has to go into a loop. It took me like 2 weeks to build my most recent pc because it needed at least 5 different fittings that I had to order to make all my runs. Only to have to do it all over again because I got a bad batch of primo chill fluid that stained my tubing and clogged both of my blocks.
I tried putting together a watercooling build in this case a while back ... ran into the same issues you are having. I didn't choose the case thankfully, so the fact it didn't work properly wasn't my fault 🙂
Ended up moving it all to a TermalTake W200 case ... which is kinda the other extreme.
I love the 011D Dynamic case ... but it just isn't that good for custom watercooling.
I bought my o011 Dynamic in either 2018 or 2019 because it was so different from what i was used to and now of course its the staple of over used cases. I have done 3 builds in the case and its still sturdy as ever. Im gonna stick with it for 1 more year i think.
really do enjoy the build log style. i enjoy seeing the challenges of the build and you talking about how you overcame them. or were unable to. either way, its more interesting.maybe a phil montage for the actual tube bending though so we can still see you doing it.
Love the video hope you do more like this, this year. I personally would of done a thin rad on the side. Maybe not with fans on it. This way that big hole is filled and has some extra cooling. Granted only passive cooling, but cooling none the less. Also I know it is too late but you should look into the Bykski drain fittings. They have a really cool push/pull instead of a lever valve drain fitting. It has made some builds really easy. I have used it for a couple years and have had zero issues with it.
And now Jay knows why I chose to externally mount my pump and radiators. I used 2 bulkhead fittings to go through the case and plumbed everything with rigid externally. Internally I used soft tubing so upgrades would be easier.
I love this style of shoot, it's nice seeing the troubleshooting process.
My JTC water block did not come with the preinstalled dirt but I did a quick RMA and they got that fixed up for me, great service
LOL currently in the same boat with my 011 Dynamic razer adition, do to the power cables=no side panel. love video's where it's all about the "ugh well....shit that aint right"
Now this is a realistic pc build with all the pain lol. I have a similar build. Use to have the older ekwb distro plate but upgraded to a aquacomputer d5 pump. Honestly to keep the temps cool, the intake is important. I have a thick alphacool radiator on the side but have to remove rivets and drill a hole for the drain port. I have phanteks t30 fans that pull in air well on the side and fans on top of the case. My pc parts are a generation older so cooling is not too much of an issue.
Love this. Definitely awesome getting to see you build again . Cannot wait to see the progress on your pc. I’m currently building my first pc ever. After watching you for the last 9 years I’m finally trying it myself. Going from a ryzen fx cpu to the ryzen 9 7900x ❤