Miyamoto And Aonuma On Training Nintendo's Next Generation Of Developers

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  • In this interview with Game Informer, The Legend of Zelda's creator Shigeru Miyamoto and series producer Eiji Aonuma talk about what it's like for the legendary developers within Nintendo to work with the younger generations and what they've learned from each other. What lesson does Miyamoto want to impart before his eventual retirement?

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  • @booshter9714
    @booshter9714 7 ปีที่แล้ว +450

    Say what you want about Nintendo. Call them out of touch. Say they're for kids. But being a young developer and having Miyamoto as one of your tutor's is a great honor.

    • @millieman76
      @millieman76 7 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      THEMIGHTYDOOVDE When people say out of touch, they want to spend hundreds of dollars on rushed consoles that yearn to be low end PCs.

    • @iownalx23
      @iownalx23 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      THEMIGHTYDOOVDE its a once in a lifetime opportunity.

    • @mickels2020
      @mickels2020 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      AbdallahSmash026#1Fan no u

    • @jacktheflash8478
      @jacktheflash8478 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      millieman76 like?

    • @GoldStandardGames
      @GoldStandardGames 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They are training them how to copy and clone other peoples ideas.

  • @LupercalRising
    @LupercalRising 7 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    these two are responsible for my childhood being incredible

    • @Dandelions479
      @Dandelions479 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I've been home schooled all year, and I don't know what I'd do without the feeling of awarding myself for my work with a good Mario game.

  • @gustinex
    @gustinex 7 ปีที่แล้ว +197

    "We can always apologize to them later"
    I'd love to see my boss apologize to me sincerely for once

    • @weeblewobble
      @weeblewobble 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      As someone who has a boss who is able to do this, I gotta say, it makes the work environment a far more comforting and enjoyable place to be. Hopefully you'll get that some day, my dude.

    • @gustinex
      @gustinex 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@weeblewobble hey thanks for the the kinds words :) its been 3 years and I left that place for good and never been happier!

  • @Simok1234
    @Simok1234 7 ปีที่แล้ว +218

    Can I just say these interview videos you've had with them have been great. You guys chose some really good topics that I feel we don't hear enough about from Nintendo themselves. Huge props.

  • @The_RedVIII
    @The_RedVIII 7 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    I love these two. Hope they can continue giving us new experiences for some time.

  • @jakfrost25
    @jakfrost25 7 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    It still surprises me people don't think the older designers like Miyamoto don't know what they're doing anymore. Watch the video. They know precisely what they're doing.

    • @Gabo2oo
      @Gabo2oo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      It's sad to see how Miyamoto has become a scapegoat for fans to blame for every tiny misdirection over the years, even stuff he's not involved with at all.

  • @pensologohesito
    @pensologohesito 7 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Game Informer, you did an amazing job interviewing these two amazing individuals. Thank you.

  • @rocca717
    @rocca717 7 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    The Creators Of The Best Game In The World By Far...., The Legend Of Zelda!

  • @DJOpaixMusic
    @DJOpaixMusic 7 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Aonuma and Miyamoto are the most important developers.
    They are epic masters of playable reality in games.

    • @GoldStandardGames
      @GoldStandardGames 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yup important cloners

    • @Dandelions479
      @Dandelions479 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They may devolop games that are great, but those games devoloped me.

    • @Dandelions479
      @Dandelions479 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      *develop

  • @DEFUNCTFORKS
    @DEFUNCTFORKS 7 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    These interviews are amazing guys, some of the best things you've all put out.

  • @Keith1904
    @Keith1904 7 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    That moment when you realize Reggie is older than aonuma...

  • @muffinman5741
    @muffinman5741 7 ปีที่แล้ว +163

    I love that when old asian guys talk about games it suddenly sounds so much more sophisticated, like an asian philosophy.

    • @IfYouSeekCaveman
      @IfYouSeekCaveman 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      They've had a lot of time to think about this stuff.

    • @PaldBenis
      @PaldBenis 7 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      Jim Knopf it's true. Americans etc just view it as a business. guys like this see it as a form of art and take pride in it.

    • @MimebladeGMail
      @MimebladeGMail 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tell that to Sega's Arcade sector of Developers. Arcade Game devs only seem to care about Japanese venues, especially ARC System Works.

    • @Crichjo32
      @Crichjo32 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      More specifically Miyamoto is an artist or philosopher. He pretty much single handily made video games into what we know them as to this day.

  • @SerdinathTheWise
    @SerdinathTheWise 7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The best knowledge comes from the wisest of people who are usually wiser the older they become. It's nice listening to their thoughts and opinions.

  • @xxlinkman456xx
    @xxlinkman456xx 7 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Nintendo will never be the same once Miyamoto and Aonuma are gone

    • @gopaldey8487
      @gopaldey8487 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Koizumi too

    • @neypaz8054
      @neypaz8054 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@gopaldey8487 And Tezuka

    • @bareq99
      @bareq99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      At already is getting sh*ttier with the passing of Mr.Iwata and Reggie stepping down from being NOA's CEO..

    • @bareq99
      @bareq99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@neypaz8054 and Sakurai (I know he doesn't work at Nintedo but he is one of the main guys too with the Smash IP)

    • @GoldStandardGames
      @GoldStandardGames 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They are just waiting to clone another Fumito Ueda game. Hurry up Ueda-san

  • @jakob5991
    @jakob5991 7 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    jeez christ I love Aonuma

    • @Goobyster
      @Goobyster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      he feels like that grandpa that teaches you to fish and play blackjack and stuff like that

  • @BenjaminIMeszaros
    @BenjaminIMeszaros 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Man. I really want these gents as my mentors.

  • @bareq99
    @bareq99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I am really happy that Mr.Aonuma is getting more and more attention after all his hard work on the Zelda series :)
    That sir right there is an inspiration!

  • @ticklemegavin
    @ticklemegavin 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    These interviews have been amazing! Glad you cut the translators and just subbed Miyamoto and Aonuma.

  • @neptune4467
    @neptune4467 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This video actually inspired me as a young game creator to go with the flow and do what I want!Before I watched this I was really stressed and this helped me a lot.

    • @gameinformer
      @gameinformer  7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Glad it helped!

    • @bareq99
      @bareq99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hope things are going well :)

  • @1gnore_me.
    @1gnore_me. 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the guy who conducted the interview for this did an excellent job

  • @PurushNahiMahaPurush
    @PurushNahiMahaPurush 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    "Go with the flow...if it doesn't work out, we can always apologize later"
    Speaks volumes of about courage Nintendo has to experiment. Never give up experimenting Nintendo. You and Sony are the beacons of hope in the sea of shit called AAA games development.

  • @treyhallmark5418
    @treyhallmark5418 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have so much respect for Miyamoto and Aonuma. Both are awesome!

  • @xD4L1Nx
    @xD4L1Nx 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I like how Aounma said "Yeah, that's right" the same way Ben Hanson does all the time

  • @drewnicholson9031
    @drewnicholson9031 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I love & respect these guys!

  • @buibuiopolismayor7329
    @buibuiopolismayor7329 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Younger generation like to follow trends. Older team members keep them in check. Sounds like a good plan. The backbone of a game is: gameplay.

  • @samanthamichniewicz870
    @samanthamichniewicz870 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    These men are my heros... I would give anything to work on zelda games with them😍😍😍

  • @liquidsnake6879
    @liquidsnake6879 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This one guy is so ridiculously instrumental to Nintendo' success, it's astonishing he never left and went into business for himself, Miyamoto effectively IS Nintendo, he is the main factor distinguishing Nintendo from other game developers and i'm really impressed at the sheer loyalty he's displayed staying with Nintendo when surely bigger companies would pay him absolute fortunes to leave.

  • @passose7329
    @passose7329 7 ปีที่แล้ว +144

    tbh we still haven't seen the next miyamoto

    • @TheArsenalMan125
      @TheArsenalMan125 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      dont trust these guys they pretty much just copy everyone else is doing no one has the genius of the current and past nintendo people i seriously fear for what zelda will be like in 20 years

    • @passose7329
      @passose7329 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      TheArsenalMan125 the new crew is good, but they just haven't touched the greatness that Miyamoto did in his career

    • @leftyfourguns
      @leftyfourguns 7 ปีที่แล้ว +116

      It's a bit different
      When Miyamoto first started, there was no such thing as the concept of video games. It was all still new and very abstract. So Miyamoto and other classic game designers got to define what a video game is through their own work. Young designers making their way now have "rules" and conventions to keep in mind, not to mention the daunting legacies of their mentors to live up to. Video games during the time of Miyamoto were a creative visionary industry. Now it's ultra competitive, motivated by profit and trends, directed by executives instead of artists.
      But the most important advice from Miyamoto here is also the most simple: just be yourself. Younger designers trying to be like Miyamoto is no good, Miyamoto never tried to be like anyone else, he just always followed his own vision and instincts. I think younger generations have a hard time being themselves and letting go of a lot of things that can hold you back

    • @cocobille
      @cocobille 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Koizumi is basically groomed as the next Miyamoto in terms of company position.
      Obviously, you can't really say "next X" though

    • @creativeusername6453
      @creativeusername6453 7 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      we're not going to see the next miyamoto just like we're not going to see the next Walt Disney.

  • @kamille286
    @kamille286 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So much respect for these guys for making what they do. Awesome video, love watching these!!

  • @gogosegaga
    @gogosegaga 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    God bless Nintendo - we are living in a golden age of superb games from them right now

  • @GoldenHay1
    @GoldenHay1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    it's good that nintendo does not follow trends.

  • @Crichjo32
    @Crichjo32 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Having these guys as video game mentors, would be like having Mozart and Beethoven as mentors for music.

  • @thundageon5962
    @thundageon5962 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Who'll be the next Miyamoto, either my boy Koizumi or Aonuma

    • @bareq99
      @bareq99 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably Mr.Aonuman
      I have nothing but respect to Mr.Koizumi but Mr.Aonuma has bren with Mr.Miyamoto WAAAAAAY longer and they are basically BFs now (not even kidding.. There are articles about how much they hang out at the company lol)

    • @Dandelions479
      @Dandelions479 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hope someone good... when he descends to the Cloud Kingdom, I fear for Super Mario [and other games, but Mario is my favorite]

  • @nikoma_
    @nikoma_ 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    So. Cool.

  • @AintPopular
    @AintPopular 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Father of early gaming

  • @NemoNews2
    @NemoNews2 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    they are so wise.. feel like a grandson

    • @NemoNews2
      @NemoNews2 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      also the drip is on point

  • @KyvannShrike
    @KyvannShrike 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It does sound like whatever skeleton they're using of core gameplay ideas seems to work wonders though.

  • @Galaxia53
    @Galaxia53 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It would be nice if they gave Paper Mario the flexibility of being allowed to have original characters again.

  • @Dadz
    @Dadz 7 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Really dislike how the subtitles go to the top when showing who's talking

    • @SalvableRuin
      @SalvableRuin 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      xBoolin complaining is not hard? what is not hard?

    • @soridosuneku
      @soridosuneku 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      뿡뿡! ^__^ It's not hard to follow the captions in his opinion

    • @zombiezombie632
      @zombiezombie632 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      soul silver s

  • @ASDFG856
    @ASDFG856 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    tldr; let the backend to us oldies, you young do your pretty things on the frontend

  • @lostwoodsdweller5313
    @lostwoodsdweller5313 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I want those Switch pillows

  • @UP3UP
    @UP3UP 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I feel Game Informer has respect for game developers. Unlike IGN that pleased to introduce Zelda's illegal mod.

    • @bareq99
      @bareq99 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Zelda's illegal mod?

  • @Deltarii
    @Deltarii 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is someone eating chips in the background or is it just me?

  • @homoludens87
    @homoludens87 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    すごいなぁ、やっぱり。神だわ。

  • @jey6779
    @jey6779 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think both of them know English well enough to understand the questions by seeing their fast reactions.

    • @bareq99
      @bareq99 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope
      There are screens that translate for them

    • @jey6779
      @jey6779 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bareq99 aha thanks for letting me know!

    • @bareq99
      @bareq99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jey6779 NP
      Just a correction tho
      There was an actual translator with them in this video
      Usually there are screens that translate for them
      My bad

  • @Dandelions479
    @Dandelions479 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's good to know he's teaching them so when he passes my kids can play Mario and it wont be trashed like Spongebob after Hillensburg died.

  • @anmolagrawal5358
    @anmolagrawal5358 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol, the last question was a bit weird so he just had to say "yes" xD

  • @terry-
    @terry- 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great!

  • @amostmg8486
    @amostmg8486 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    can they make another model of Nintendo in affordable price

  • @mory357jojo
    @mory357jojo 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    no.1 deveropment

  • @arthuraraujo1070
    @arthuraraujo1070 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They have to play Dark Souls

  • @oudiHDs
    @oudiHDs ปีที่แล้ว

    ❤❤

  • @igordemelo4128
    @igordemelo4128 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    aonuma que homão da porraaaaaa

  • @iwearleatherjackets1
    @iwearleatherjackets1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have to remind myself that Miyamoto is 67 because my 22-year-old brain doesn't have a quarter of his creativity lol.

  • @AquaBlueTea
    @AquaBlueTea 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The subtitles are hard to follow

    • @AquaBlueTea
      @AquaBlueTea 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Learn how to read properly scrub

  • @draxdrilox
    @draxdrilox 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    *Me watching the thumbnail* Oh it's nice see a female programmer

  • @m4r_art
    @m4r_art 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Aonuma badly needs Miyamoto to not lose compass. His comments on classic Zelda are infuriating. I don't even consider myself a gamer in the "following a trend" sense. But my life was shaped by Zelda and each iteration from Ocarina of Time to even Breath of the Wild challenged my understanding of what Zelda is or can be. The deeply infuriating part is how Aonuma considers the old Zelda, linear and boring. And he might feel bored by making such a game. But that format and the memories it brought to the table was something special. Back then you had a much more cinematic Zelda with custcenes and an evolving story. Linearity on the side the content felt alive. Breath of the Wild might be a good gameplay mechanic and a nice world design, but it feels empty at its source. I don't know if money got to Aonuma's head but the hardcore Zelda fans that played the game in the 80s and 90s are really the ones he is betraying with his comment. The classic Zelda formula ultimately is something Miyamoto has most merits for. Miyamoto was the baseline Aonuma needed to avoid becoming too focused on innovation. Zelda is also about story and a bad story with good gameplay is not what Zelda is about. The day Wind Waker released, when I saw the tapestry with the medieval aesthetic, I knew something good was on. The day I saw trailers for Twilight Princess I knew something good was on. When I saw Link face Demise, I felt goosebumps. I hated the visuals in that game more than Wind Waker but I love that kind of Zelda nontetheless. Breath of the WIld and Tears of the Kingdom also have their approach to building Zelda and beauty. But the franchise has pushed way too much into open world. The dungeons feel rushed, the world isn't compact no matter how much you explore it, after a point you get bored. Science teaches us, there is beauty in the small and minimal. Sometimes less is more. And Zelda needs their less is more moment for Zelda.

  • @RohitSharma-mi8gt
    @RohitSharma-mi8gt ปีที่แล้ว

    they built cool ! beat that next gen haha

  • @MasterChris666
    @MasterChris666 ปีที่แล้ว

    Switch Pro will be crazy new

  • @majidalabboudi7218
    @majidalabboudi7218 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    English subtitles are so bad

  • @Mike.Garcia
    @Mike.Garcia 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Very traditionalist , old... make the game, young make it look pretty lol

    • @tonton1009
      @tonton1009 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that is why nintendo is dying

    • @Mike.Garcia
      @Mike.Garcia 7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      nintendo will out live us both

    • @lilaclunablossom
      @lilaclunablossom 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Ton Ton Nintendo is far from dying, where did you get your sources?

    • @linkyswordsboy
      @linkyswordsboy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They had one bad console since Virtual Boy, they're obviously dying /s

    • @saigonotapioka6813
      @saigonotapioka6813 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ton Ton the wii sold more than the Xbox 360 and Ps3, was one of the most famous consoles ever, even being weak, the only shit nintendo did was the Nintendo Wii U, and the Switch is going very well so, i don't see where Nintendo is dying

  • @jackdugan5566
    @jackdugan5566 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    hahah gotta love the Japanese

  • @MacenW
    @MacenW 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If ToTK is what they have to show for the next generation of devs, theres nothing to look forward to

  • @DrLeePercussion
    @DrLeePercussion 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nintendo is still the leader. hahaha

  • @Mike.Garcia
    @Mike.Garcia 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't know why he stays with Nintendo

    • @nothankyoutube
      @nothankyoutube 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      gwald because he doesn't want to make a sci Fi grim dark shooter the rest of his life?

  • @uh6241
    @uh6241 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would you rather..
    Never play splatoon 2
    OR
    Never play zelda games

  • @MarioFlogar
    @MarioFlogar 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Insufficient subtitles

  • @antmister3214
    @antmister3214 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ask on fortnite

  • @quickmaff9349
    @quickmaff9349 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    can you please stop moving the damn sub titles?

  • @Heyim18bro
    @Heyim18bro 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    They need a better way of teaching the new generation because Nintendo game design isn't even a shell of what it used to be

  • @Tragel102
    @Tragel102 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "make the same game forever"

    • @JoshLeitzel
      @JoshLeitzel 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      XD XD XD XD Points for such an original and fresh joke there m8! I too remember playing Splatoon back in the NES days. These Nintendo people really need to create some new IP's!

    • @DemonlordHatty
      @DemonlordHatty 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Josh Leitzel I mean, c'mon Shigeru Miyamoto.... ANOTHER Arms? Get a grip, Nintendo.

    • @tobicapriroy0176
      @tobicapriroy0176 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Poet Samuel Another Kid Icarus? They are so running out of ideas. We get a Kid Icarus game every 25 years. Give us more variety!!!

  • @yousini
    @yousini 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:00 holy fucking downgrade, portendo version of botw looks like crap compared to that

    • @bareq99
      @bareq99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This was an early prototype back in 2014

  • @kanten3582
    @kanten3582 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    FIRST

  • @JTShine
    @JTShine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nintendo's younger designers are clearly not cutting it, and not up to par with how the older designers work. Switch is full of unfinished games that only rely on a dumb gimmick, and have none of the soul they used to.

  • @flyingcownipples1295
    @flyingcownipples1295 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    With all these interviews it still surprises me that these guys can't speak English.

    • @Rockets2024Champs
      @Rockets2024Champs 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Max McGaffin miyamoto can speak english

    • @SpinyPuffs
      @SpinyPuffs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think he PREFERS to speak Japanese, I'm sure he understood what Ben was saying perfectly.

    • @bareq99
      @bareq99 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They do
      They just don't want to because they didn't grow up with English
      Unlike Mr.Iwata for example

  • @Squeenix1
    @Squeenix1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Out of touch.

    • @JoshLeitzel
      @JoshLeitzel 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      With what?

    • @Anon9729X
      @Anon9729X 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Josh Leitzel With everything,but more importantly with what gamers want.

    • @Ahmedbohamad
      @Ahmedbohamad 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      When gamers pretend to know what they want...

    • @PaldBenis
      @PaldBenis 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I mean, BotW is likely the most anticipated game of the past decade and is getting nothing but very positive feedback, some reviewers calling it one of the best games of all time, something we'll look back on 20+ years from now.
      "out of touch" is a far stretch.

    • @lilaclunablossom
      @lilaclunablossom 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      WCPMachines Agreed, these are just sad people who only want tons of blood and gore and cussing in their video games.

  • @WiqedWhiteGorilla
    @WiqedWhiteGorilla 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    People love to pretend this hack is the Asian Jesus

  • @Anon9729X
    @Anon9729X 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Says the man who has been out of touch with gaming for years. The Wii u was garbage and it had only 1 new IP. Yet people wonder why Nintendo has been irrelevant.

    • @PunchPerfectPlayer
      @PunchPerfectPlayer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Chris Sukam 3DS sold 60 million , thats more than ps4 how is nintendo irrelevant

    • @SerdinathTheWise
      @SerdinathTheWise 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Chris Sukam Lel! No.

    • @Hetsu..
      @Hetsu.. 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      the switch will out sell the ps shit soon

    • @burt7837
      @burt7837 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Switch has been selling well

  • @bombastico16
    @bombastico16 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Theres no such thing as "younger generation" in nintendo, just fossils with close minded heads.