Getting all of these things done up in the rafters is the #1 priority right now. There are only five more things on that list, but one of them is build the partition wall and another is install the ceiling joists so it will take a good deal longer than five days! Here are some woodshop build links... 3M All Weather Flashing Tape - amzn.to/3ICBX4P Huber ZIP System Liquid-Flash - amzn.to/31OtCtN Seville Classics Commercial-Grade 5-Tier 60" W x 24" D - amzn.to/3qgjrXJ 5000 Lumen Temporary LED Work Light - amzn.to/3eslZfu Heavy Duty 3-Prong Wireless Remote - amzn.to/3EnPWYN Powermatic Model 60C 8-Inch 2 HP 1-Phase Jointer - amzn.to/3mvPq4M Jet Contractors Saw - amzn.to/3mAAQJs Insul-Hold - amzn.to/3evnmKq 1" Garage Door Chain Hoist - amzn.to/3rn11VF 1" 4:1 Open Garage Door Chain Hoist - amzn.to/3uldvQA 1" 3:1 Open Garage Door Chain Hoist - amzn.to/3IVxXf0 1.25" Garage Door Chain Hoist - amzn.to/32R3vmS Ambient Weather WS-2902C WiFi Smart Weather Station - amzn.to/3GzRdNp Brownell Oxpho-Blue Professional Grade Cold Blue - amzn.to/3BfKiYO Evapo-Rust - amzn.to/3gJQEq4 Xcluder Rodent Control Fill - amzn.to/3oVsH3x Great Stuff Pestblock With Smart Dispenser - amzn.to/3HfI2SG 5FT Power Twist V-Belt 1/2-Inch x 5 Feet A Type - amzn.to/3LTQQkF Aluminum 5 Slot A Type V-Shaped Pagoda Pulley 5 Step Pulley - amzn.to/33GTclJ Wixey Remote Planer Readout With Fractions - 300mm (12") - amzn.to/3scJQro TamBee Hidden Door Hinge - amzn.to/3tpstTE Yosoo Latch Lock - amzn.to/35Rh7ji Spring Load Bolt Latch - amzn.to/3hF8n2c Milwaukee 3/8" Crown Stapler (tool only)- amzn.to/3HKbtgb Milwaukee 3/8" Crown Stapler (complete)- amzn.to/3igDDoz 1000 Stainless Steel T50 Staples - amzn.to/3toLUgM MPOWER Triple Diamond Sharpening Whetstone - amzn.to/3ClrZ52 Rockwell Wood & Nail End Cut - amzn.to/3tfOQMz Pioneer Diamante Series Ductless Mini-Split (9k) - amzn.to/3twjXnb Pioneer Diamante Series Ductless Mini-Split (24k) - amzn.to/3D0Yvtw Nylog Gasket/Thread Sealant - amzn.to/3IyHCaT Mounting Bracket for Ductless Mini Split - amzn.to/3L7F8C0 Vacuum Pump and R134a Manifold Gauge Set - amzn.to/3qryKNM CopperCoat Green Wood Preservative - amzn.to/3cqxVBb
I'm working on an old house that was never fitted with a gas dryer and I won't use electric, so I started checking TH-cam on how to run modern gas line, using flex pipe, and your video was the first thing to pop up. Thanks for the tutorial!
I just watched this video even thought it's a couple of years old. The work looks tidy, but there are at least a couple of things that should be avoided. Twisting the fittings rather than the nuts is not the way they are intended to be installed (look at about 19:00 minutes into the video). The fittings should be held securely with a wrench or pliers, and then the nut should be tightened onto the fitting. If you do it the other way (twisting the fitting), you're twisting the end of the CSST against the inner seal, which can deform it and/or cut it. The CSST should be pressed against the seal, not twisted into it. There are other considerations, too, but those are the ones I wanted to mention -- don't twist, and hold securely while tightening. Viewers, keep in mind, too, that not all jurisdictions allow CSST to be used.
Good video. Very helpful. Maybe spend a little less time on your layout. Price update: Jan 2024 now the cutter is $38! The good news is the affiliate link still works. A lot of time they don't and I wonder if the YT'er even knows they're no longer getting commission. Big thumbs up!
Never used home or pro flex. Maybe it's better now, but when that stuff first came out nothing but problems and leaks from fittings. I would go to a customer's house because they smelled gas and sure enough it was from the pro flex. We wouldn't even repair it. We would either re do the customers entire house in trac pipe, or shut down their tank until the contractor who installed it came back to fix it. There's a reason that stuff is a lot cheaper then trac pipe! Also you have to be certified to even buy trac pipe/ counter strike where has home depot will sell it to anyone. That's how people get hurt or dead But the job looks clean, not taking anything away from the craftsmanship, just the product
Really nice job. Noise outside was no problem it was important work that needed get done. If you ever need some side income your plumbing skills will take you far. 💪👍😊❤️
Unfortunately all the Links for the Tubing and fittings are dead 😢. Where I live it's hard to find stuff like this in the hardware stores. Not sure why Amazon had no active listings? It's all plastic only for direct burial not safe for indoors.
Very nice video sir, when it comes to gas installation I only (company demanded) black Iron. So, I enjoyed your video, can you tell me though, what did you use for your 90s, I went to proflex website and all I found were male, female, manifolds and tees?!?!?!?! Also, I wish I could get my apprentices to assemble parts outside like you did, would make my job so much easier.
Thanks David! For most 90's you just bend the ProFlex, but if you have a real tight spot you would need to use an iron fitting and two ProFlex adapter fittings or iron into the fitting and one ProFlex fitting out. Ideally you would jus bend the ProFlex as I did. The whole object is to use very few fittings and plan the run to have gradual bends. Hope that helps 😊
@@PlanetMojo That makes total sense, and now that I think about it, I am saying what a dumb question...LOL, I guess I am just used to fittings everywhere due to having to run the black iron!
About to do the same thing, but under my house from back to front, with a middle T up for the stove, back and front propane access, and another T out to my shop. Let us know if any issues! Also which brand did you buy?
The brand is Pro-Flex. I got it on Amazon. Here are the links from that job if you need any of them: Mr. Heater 50,000 BTU Big Maxx - amzn.to/3G35gwH High Temp Silicone Boot - amzn.to/3Cy6Tld Yellow Jacket Gas Pressure Test Kit, 0-35"Wc - amzn.to/3FXUzf3 Temperature/Humidity Sensor - amzn.to/3CwMD3h Monster Thread Seal Tape - amzn.to/3EV24V2 1"x 12"x 24" Ceramic Blanket - amzn.to/3GKBy0b 1"x 24"x 32" Ceramic Blanket - amzn.to/3ilA443 ProFlex Gas Pipe (1/2" x 25 ft) - amzn.to/3gjIEis ProFlex Gas Pipe (3/4 x 25 ft) - amzn.to/3VBL0cR CSST Tubing Cutter, 1/4-inch - 1-1/4-inch - amzn.to/3SeuiNB Pro-Flex 1/2" Brass Male Fitting - amzn.to/3yF9k3l Pro-Flex 3/4" Brass Male Fitting - amzn.to/3D0gKRq Pro-Flex 3/4" Union (Coupling) - amzn.to/3ezIWRP Pro-Flex 1/2" x 1/2" x 1/2" Tee - amzn.to/3EGq2U1 Pro-Flex 3/4" x 3/4" x 3/4" Tee - amzn.to/3TcQqcI Pro-Flex 1/2in Termination Plate 1/2MIP 3/8FIP CSST Male Adapter Fitting - amzn.to/3T3MkDq Nylog Blue - amzn.to/3KNjtQI
You would have to check with code, but I believe you need steel pipe outside. I have steel coming into the building and up into the rafters, then switch to Pro-Flex up there. If it's run in a wall you would need nail guard plates on the studs so you don't nail into it later.
They sell poly pipe and kits with steel risers that all can be buried. The riser looks like a 2-3' elbow that connects to poly underground then the steel emerges at the ground so the poly isn't coming straight out of the ground.
Nice job on the gas line bro but I got a question for you where did you get the gauge I would like to find me a gauge I don't know where there's any at can you help me out please I appreciate you Nice looking building also thank you
Thanks Joe! This one, as are almost all of them, is for a 3/4" pipe: amzn.to/3YBRAS9 if you want to connect to a 1/2" pipe you would need an adapter that can be found at any hardware store.
I saw blue tape. Tape is only used on compressed air not on C3H8 or CH4. I have my gas qualification from DOB in New York City and also Medical Gas Qualification.
@@PlanetMojo Yah, I noticed at 16:01 it was backwards. It probably won't be fine, you really should redo it. You don't have to remember the clock direction, just imagine you are screwing the fitting onto the pipe, and hold the Teflon straight while rotating the fitting in the direction of attaching it. If you do that it will be right. You can also test it after, hold your fingers over the Teflon, and rotate the fitting and see if the Teflon comes off, or if it gets tighter.
@@Ariel1S It will be absolutely fine if the threads go on it. The direction of wrap is just so it doesn't unravel when you are starting. If the threads go on it, it's fine.
@@PlanetMojo I'm sorry, but this isn't true. If the threads are backwards it tends to unwrap when you tighten it, and then it leaks. Maybe in your situation because it's very low pressure gas it can handle it, I don't know, but if you tried that with a water pipe it would leak 100% for sure. I've made this mistake occasionally, as soon as you screw the pipe you can see the Teflon start to unwind itself from the threads rather than be firmly on the threads as the pipe goes deeper into the fitting.
@@Ariel1S I repeat, the tape did not unwind, if it doesn't unwind, it's perfectly fine - and that would be at any pressure. If it had unwound, I would have done it over. It would not have leaked with water either as the contact is exactly the same.
Not really! Because National code allows copper to be used for natural gas. New york city does not use national code, they have their own code ,the blue monster tape for gas is "yellow'' ; you used teflon tape. Sulphur breaks down the tape. California has the strictest plumbing code then its New York City.
No, they make a yellow version for places that require it . It is the exact same tape as the blue stuff. I did not use normal Teflon tape, you can see the Monster Tape on the table saw on this video at: th-cam.com/video/nJEX0Zm317I/w-d-xo.html and here it is up close: th-cam.com/channels/oYEkrBhUZGqc21ahXYdwEA.htmlcommunity?lb=Ugkx0RP1yCqrxrtls8E9bpdYahZfKVu5UQZR
@@PlanetMojo Actually from what I read the o-rings are more reliable. The metal connections of the other types are difficult to get right, they need perfect cuts and a lot more tightness to seal.
I read it but no form of tape is recommended for ''gas'' because the sulphur in the gas breaks it down. ''PRO DOPE'' is better, you have to lubricate the threads not seal them. NO PERMATEX!
Wow, you really are a piece of work Tony. You see the evidence right before your eyes and continue to deny it. Technology advances, and has apparently passed you up. Stop posting your nonsense here and find someone else to harass.
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Getting all of these things done up in the rafters is the #1 priority right now. There are only five more things on that list, but one of them is build the partition wall and another is install the ceiling joists so it will take a good deal longer than five days!
Here are some woodshop build links...
3M All Weather Flashing Tape - amzn.to/3ICBX4P
Huber ZIP System Liquid-Flash - amzn.to/31OtCtN
Seville Classics Commercial-Grade 5-Tier 60" W x 24" D - amzn.to/3qgjrXJ
5000 Lumen Temporary LED Work Light - amzn.to/3eslZfu
Heavy Duty 3-Prong Wireless Remote - amzn.to/3EnPWYN
Powermatic Model 60C 8-Inch 2 HP 1-Phase Jointer - amzn.to/3mvPq4M
Jet Contractors Saw - amzn.to/3mAAQJs
Insul-Hold - amzn.to/3evnmKq
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Ambient Weather WS-2902C WiFi Smart Weather Station - amzn.to/3GzRdNp
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Evapo-Rust - amzn.to/3gJQEq4
Xcluder Rodent Control Fill - amzn.to/3oVsH3x
Great Stuff Pestblock With Smart Dispenser - amzn.to/3HfI2SG
5FT Power Twist V-Belt 1/2-Inch x 5 Feet A Type - amzn.to/3LTQQkF
Aluminum 5 Slot A Type V-Shaped Pagoda Pulley 5 Step Pulley - amzn.to/33GTclJ
Wixey Remote Planer Readout With Fractions - 300mm (12") - amzn.to/3scJQro
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1000 Stainless Steel T50 Staples - amzn.to/3toLUgM
MPOWER Triple Diamond Sharpening Whetstone - amzn.to/3ClrZ52
Rockwell Wood & Nail End Cut - amzn.to/3tfOQMz
Pioneer Diamante Series Ductless Mini-Split (9k) - amzn.to/3twjXnb
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I'm working on an old house that was never fitted with a gas dryer and I won't use electric, so I started checking TH-cam on how to run modern gas line, using flex pipe, and your video was the first thing to pop up. Thanks for the tutorial!
Thanks Dave!
I've got my literal blood sweat and tears going into my kitchen remodel as well. Thanks for giving me the confidence I needed to tackle this!
Thanks Joe! You can do it!
I just watched this video even thought it's a couple of years old. The work looks tidy, but there are at least a couple of things that should be avoided. Twisting the fittings rather than the nuts is not the way they are intended to be installed (look at about 19:00 minutes into the video). The fittings should be held securely with a wrench or pliers, and then the nut should be tightened onto the fitting. If you do it the other way (twisting the fitting), you're twisting the end of the CSST against the inner seal, which can deform it and/or cut it. The CSST should be pressed against the seal, not twisted into it. There are other considerations, too, but those are the ones I wanted to mention -- don't twist, and hold securely while tightening. Viewers, keep in mind, too, that not all jurisdictions allow CSST to be used.
I've always been afraid to run gas lines! Glad you're testing these!
I'll be testing these lines myself, but the propane company will be testing as well when they hook-up the regulator. Should be very safe 😊
Hi Mojo, that was a great job you did up so high on the ladder at times I had my heart in my mouth, so I take my hat off to you, super job.
Thanks Larry! Soon I'll be working on the ceiling and the vertigo will be a factor. Hope that goes smoothly as well...
Heat soon! It will be nice to see that line hooked up to the heater and pumping heat!
Thanks Shed Homes! It's actually going to be hot today, but I will definitely need that heat soon!
At 16:11 it looks like you wrapped the pipe backwards. I thought you should wrap in the tightening direction to keep the tape in place.
I may very well have done that. I make that mistake a fair amount of the time. 😐
Good video. Very helpful. Maybe spend a little less time on your layout. Price update: Jan 2024 now the cutter is $38! The good news is the affiliate link still works. A lot of time they don't and I wonder if the YT'er even knows they're no longer getting commission. Big thumbs up!
many of those URL in your video descriptions are not working
I see that! I've added some "tagged products" in the video itself that should work.
Never used home or pro flex. Maybe it's better now, but when that stuff first came out nothing but problems and leaks from fittings. I would go to a customer's house because they smelled gas and sure enough it was from the pro flex. We wouldn't even repair it. We would either re do the customers entire house in trac pipe, or shut down their tank until the contractor who installed it came back to fix it. There's a reason that stuff is a lot cheaper then trac pipe! Also you have to be certified to even buy trac pipe/ counter strike where has home depot will sell it to anyone. That's how people get hurt or dead
But the job looks clean, not taking anything away from the craftsmanship, just the product
No leaks here 😊
Hi,
So, flex line can be used to do an entire area (like your doing)? Thanks
I actually used steel coming into the building and up to the rafters, then used flex to get to the heater and the location of a future heater.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
My pleasure!
Did you bond the flex gas line
Really nice job. Noise outside was no problem it was important work that needed get done. If you ever need some side income your plumbing skills will take you far. 💪👍😊❤️
Thanks Dave! My dad did furnace install/repair when I was younger, so I guess some of that rubbed off on me 😉
Unfortunately all the Links for the Tubing and fittings are dead 😢. Where I live it's hard to find stuff like this in the hardware stores. Not sure why Amazon had no active listings? It's all plastic only for direct burial not safe for indoors.
I've added "tagged links" in the video itself. Hopefully they work!
Don’t forget to bond the gas line to your electrical system ✌🏻🇺🇸
those connectors seems to be better than homeflex
where do you buy them?
I've added "tagged links" in the video itself. Hopefully they work!
Just curious. Why not black black pipe all the way to the heaters?
Ease of install. The line is 12' up in the air, and it was a lot easier to run the Pro-Flex up there.
Ok you got me just subbed thanks !
Welcome aboard Mike!
Excellent
Thank you! Cheers!
Very nice video sir, when it comes to gas installation I only (company demanded) black Iron. So, I enjoyed your video, can you tell me though, what did you use for your 90s, I went to proflex website and all I found were male, female, manifolds and tees?!?!?!?! Also, I wish I could get my apprentices to assemble parts outside like you did, would make my job so much easier.
Thanks David! For most 90's you just bend the ProFlex, but if you have a real tight spot you would need to use an iron fitting and two ProFlex adapter fittings or iron into the fitting and one ProFlex fitting out. Ideally you would jus bend the ProFlex as I did. The whole object is to use very few fittings and plan the run to have gradual bends. Hope that helps 😊
@@PlanetMojo That makes total sense, and now that I think about it, I am saying what a dumb question...LOL, I guess I am just used to fittings everywhere due to having to run the black iron!
@@dillonlexington It had me baffled at first as well. They do make tees and reducer tees though 😊
About to do the same thing, but under my house from back to front, with a middle T up for the stove, back and front propane access, and another T out to my shop. Let us know if any issues!
Also which brand did you buy?
The brand is Pro-Flex. I got it on Amazon. Here are the links from that job if you need any of them:
Mr. Heater 50,000 BTU Big Maxx - amzn.to/3G35gwH
High Temp Silicone Boot - amzn.to/3Cy6Tld
Yellow Jacket Gas Pressure Test Kit, 0-35"Wc - amzn.to/3FXUzf3
Temperature/Humidity Sensor - amzn.to/3CwMD3h
Monster Thread Seal Tape - amzn.to/3EV24V2
1"x 12"x 24" Ceramic Blanket - amzn.to/3GKBy0b
1"x 24"x 32" Ceramic Blanket - amzn.to/3ilA443
ProFlex Gas Pipe (1/2" x 25 ft) - amzn.to/3gjIEis
ProFlex Gas Pipe (3/4 x 25 ft) - amzn.to/3VBL0cR
CSST Tubing Cutter, 1/4-inch - 1-1/4-inch - amzn.to/3SeuiNB
Pro-Flex 1/2" Brass Male Fitting - amzn.to/3yF9k3l
Pro-Flex 3/4" Brass Male Fitting - amzn.to/3D0gKRq
Pro-Flex 3/4" Union (Coupling) - amzn.to/3ezIWRP
Pro-Flex 1/2" x 1/2" x 1/2" Tee - amzn.to/3EGq2U1
Pro-Flex 3/4" x 3/4" x 3/4" Tee - amzn.to/3TcQqcI
Pro-Flex 1/2in Termination Plate 1/2MIP 3/8FIP CSST Male Adapter Fitting - amzn.to/3T3MkDq
Nylog Blue - amzn.to/3KNjtQI
remember... not all brands of parts are interchangeable! try to be consistent on this to avoid mix ups and possible problems.
I agree. These are all Pro-Flex parts.
Would it be recommended to run in a wall, through the attic, To out side?
You would have to check with code, but I believe you need steel pipe outside. I have steel coming into the building and up into the rafters, then switch to Pro-Flex up there. If it's run in a wall you would need nail guard plates on the studs so you don't nail into it later.
I live in the country. I am my own code inspector. Not worried about that. Just wondering if the Flex was safe to do that
@@johnpaularnett522 I don't think so. I would definitely put black pipe where it has the possibility of damage.
They sell poly pipe and kits with steel risers that all can be buried. The riser looks like a 2-3' elbow that connects to poly underground then the steel emerges at the ground so the poly isn't coming straight out of the ground.
So I read that max psi is 5 . How can u test at 15m
Nice job on the gas line bro but I got a question for you where did you get the gauge I would like to find me a gauge I don't know where there's any at can you help me out please I appreciate you Nice looking building also thank you
Thanks Joe! This one, as are almost all of them, is for a 3/4" pipe: amzn.to/3YBRAS9 if you want to connect to a 1/2" pipe you would need an adapter that can be found at any hardware store.
thanks bud
@@joeclark9042 👍😊
This kind of gas plumbing would be illegal in New York City.
100% legal here.
I saw blue tape. Tape is only used on compressed air not on C3H8 or CH4. I have my gas qualification from DOB in New York City and also Medical Gas Qualification.
The tape is "Blue Monster" PTFE Thread Seal Tape. It is rated for all natural gas, methane, propane, butane, and petroleum distillates.
Interesting and expensive 1:10
Teflon tape not allowed on natural gas neither are compression fittings.
This is propane, and yellow propane tape is used on the steel fittings. The Pro-Flex lines are 100% legal, and were installed properly.
Your putting your Teflon on the wrong direction always clockwise
I always forget whether its clockwise when pointing towards you or pointing away. Oh well, as long as it didn't peel-up, it will be fine.
@@PlanetMojo Yah, I noticed at 16:01 it was backwards. It probably won't be fine, you really should redo it. You don't have to remember the clock direction, just imagine you are screwing the fitting onto the pipe, and hold the Teflon straight while rotating the fitting in the direction of attaching it. If you do that it will be right.
You can also test it after, hold your fingers over the Teflon, and rotate the fitting and see if the Teflon comes off, or if it gets tighter.
@@Ariel1S It will be absolutely fine if the threads go on it. The direction of wrap is just so it doesn't unravel when you are starting. If the threads go on it, it's fine.
@@PlanetMojo I'm sorry, but this isn't true. If the threads are backwards it tends to unwrap when you tighten it, and then it leaks.
Maybe in your situation because it's very low pressure gas it can handle it, I don't know, but if you tried that with a water pipe it would leak 100% for sure.
I've made this mistake occasionally, as soon as you screw the pipe you can see the Teflon start to unwind itself from the threads rather than be firmly on the threads as the pipe goes deeper into the fitting.
@@Ariel1S I repeat, the tape did not unwind, if it doesn't unwind, it's perfectly fine - and that would be at any pressure. If it had unwound, I would have done it over. It would not have leaked with water either as the contact is exactly the same.
Not really! Because National code allows copper to be used for natural gas. New york city does not use national code, they have their own code ,the blue monster tape for gas is "yellow'' ; you used teflon tape. Sulphur breaks down the tape. California has the strictest plumbing code then its New York City.
No, they make a yellow version for places that require it . It is the exact same tape as the blue stuff. I did not use normal Teflon tape, you can see the Monster Tape on the table saw on this video at: th-cam.com/video/nJEX0Zm317I/w-d-xo.html and here it is up close: th-cam.com/channels/oYEkrBhUZGqc21ahXYdwEA.htmlcommunity?lb=Ugkx0RP1yCqrxrtls8E9bpdYahZfKVu5UQZR
Natural gas has Sulphur that us why tape is no good. New York City has ne of the strictest plumbing codes in the U.S.,that would not fly.
It is rated for natural gas. I'm guessing they knew about Sulphur when they rated it. At any rate, it's on a propane line, and is 100% fine.
Not in my 90 year old house
Why is that?
never use gaslines w o-rings,too easy to fail,countless times have torn this junk out,,only use trac pipe or gastite
That's how Pro-Flax gas lines are made.
@@PlanetMojo Actually from what I read the o-rings are more reliable. The metal connections of the other types are difficult to get right, they need perfect cuts and a lot more tightness to seal.
I read it but no form of tape is recommended for ''gas'' because the sulphur in the gas breaks it down. ''PRO DOPE'' is better, you have to lubricate the threads not seal them. NO PERMATEX!
Wow, you really are a piece of work Tony. You see the evidence right before your eyes and continue to deny it. Technology advances, and has apparently passed you up. Stop posting your nonsense here and find someone else to harass.
Calm down payla