JoJo Callbacks in JoJolion

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  • Going over every reference to the original JoJo universe in Part 8: JoJolion
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    Higashikata House
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  • @OmniGenBattle
    @OmniGenBattle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3111

    I love how in the original universe, Joseph left Suzie Q for a Japanese girl, but in JJL, Joseph leaves a Japanese girl for Suzie Q

    • @masonhunsinger7496
      @masonhunsinger7496 2 ปีที่แล้ว +252

      “Ironic isn’t it”
      Palpatine-revenge of the sith

    • @SamuelSouza-di6nq
      @SamuelSouza-di6nq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      @@masonhunsinger7496
      Its like poetry, it rhymes

    • @funkydong5315
      @funkydong5315 2 ปีที่แล้ว +122

      Joseph didnt leave Suzie Q tho.....

    • @SlowBroTheBro
      @SlowBroTheBro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +181

      @@funkydong5315 exactly, he just cheats on her

    • @JToaster
      @JToaster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Well he didn’t leave her but.. yea

  • @gabrielsantos-tw4rn
    @gabrielsantos-tw4rn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2330

    In the hat store, you can also see Gyro's and Johnny's hats

    • @micha0278
      @micha0278 2 ปีที่แล้ว +282

      Also the store itself is called SBR (Steel Ball Run)

    • @micha0278
      @micha0278 2 ปีที่แล้ว +203

      wasn't also a hat similar to emporio's in that store? i think it was but i'm not sure

    • @luccabritto2566
      @luccabritto2566 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@micha0278 there was

    • @f.p.6272
      @f.p.6272 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Emporio's too

    • @justajobro1266
      @justajobro1266 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If you somehow never noticed that this comment is for you

  • @derfuchs3296
    @derfuchs3296 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2346

    People reading Part 2: Araki forgot about Joseph’s Clackers 😡
    Araki literally 30 years later: I rember 😄

    • @nonnapapera69
      @nonnapapera69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +234

      Though he didn’t forget about them, it is show that he broke them during the fight with the vampire before meeting Lars and wamuu

    • @derfuchs3296
      @derfuchs3296 2 ปีที่แล้ว +168

      @@nonnapapera69
      Yeah it’s not an Araki forgot but people still say it

    • @sluxxy4463
      @sluxxy4463 2 ปีที่แล้ว +154

      @@nonnapapera69 My favorite villain, *Lars*

    • @nonnapapera69
      @nonnapapera69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@sluxxy4463 yeah I meant kars

    • @rizarxf3090
      @rizarxf3090 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I Forgor 💀

  • @homerfisher5382
    @homerfisher5382 ปีที่แล้ว +216

    Finding out Part 8 Kira's identity through going to a shop and tracing a piece of clothing belonging to him might have even been a parallel to how Part 4 Kira was found when Jotaro and Koichi tracked a button from his coat to a shop.

  • @mohithkondaveeti7766
    @mohithkondaveeti7766 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2043

    Personally I feel like Josuke's invisible soap bubbles in the final fight is a callback to Part 4 Kira using Stray Cat's invisible air bubbles in the final fight.
    Then again Caesar also used bubbles in Part 2 and Josefumi's ability was also bubbles just like Part 8 Kira so Araki might just like bubbles.

    • @elimiller2188
      @elimiller2188 2 ปีที่แล้ว +102

      Bubbles and finger guns

    • @Cdoggle
      @Cdoggle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +109

      Pretty sure he said somewhere that he does like bubble-based attacks

    • @iroga9764
      @iroga9764 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Nah, its definiteley a stray cat reference

    • @colourblindchalk
      @colourblindchalk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      *those bubbles are spinning lines.*

    • @mohithkondaveeti7766
      @mohithkondaveeti7766 2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      @@colourblindchalk And inside of them there is something that "does not exist in this world". But because it doesn't exist it can go beyond logic and reasoning and transcend the calamaties.

  • @nuclearocean
    @nuclearocean 2 ปีที่แล้ว +596

    You missed the boy that appears in Born this way fight. He is dark-haired and has ladybug accessories so he is definitely a callback to young Giorno

    • @Nerf_Jeez
      @Nerf_Jeez 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Whaaat? Is there really such a guy in there? I'll have to check it out when I get there with my reread

    • @pdcandis
      @pdcandis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Part 9 protagonist confirmed

    • @mooganify
      @mooganify ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its natural to forget and miss some shit lmao

    • @daxie__3210
      @daxie__3210 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ​@@pdcandisunironically you aren't far off

  • @gamma5672
    @gamma5672 2 ปีที่แล้ว +504

    Not really sure if it counts as a callback per se but one parallel that I found between both parts is that Josuke Highashikata and Yasuho Hirose both have Stands named after Prince songs similar to how Josuke Higashikata and Koichi Hirose had Stands named after Pink Floyd songs in DIU

    • @festafunerea
      @festafunerea 2 ปีที่แล้ว +103

      Not a paralell between universes, but still a paralell: as Josuke and Yasuho have stands named after PRINCE songs, Kira have Killer QUEEN, while all the stands of the Higashikata family have the word KING on their names. Plus, Tooru's stand is named after a song by Elvis Presley - which is know as the KING of ROCK.

    • @cpw221
      @cpw221 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      walking heart says hi

    • @hernan5744
      @hernan5744 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@cpw221 walKING

    • @rubylicious977
      @rubylicious977 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@festafunerea king of ROCK

    • @brisking
      @brisking 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@festafunerea holy shit that tooru one is so clever

  • @Nexol13
    @Nexol13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1146

    Can’t wait for the final version of the Part 8 musical references!

    • @totallynotdio1311
      @totallynotdio1311 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Spoiler. It will be the same as the last video, but with radio gaga reference at the end.

    • @dogofthebag3786
      @dogofthebag3786 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@totallynotdio1311 he could've found more references in between, it already happened in the other music references videos

    • @Nexol13
      @Nexol13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@totallynotdio1311 I know, I’m just happy it’s going to be completed

    • @diegodankquixote-wry3242
      @diegodankquixote-wry3242 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Scatman's world wasn't in the last video and a guide book will likely give us more names that are references.

    • @abhishekdas3320
      @abhishekdas3320 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      obladi oblada

  • @mrscoldarrow
    @mrscoldarrow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +393

    Another thing to mention is that Kira is the counterpart to Jotaro, seeing as their mother is Holly and their job is related to the sea (Marine Biologist and Cargo Ship Doctor). They also share personalities, with both having an ‘I don’t give a shit’ attitude.
    Kira’s hair is also not blonde like the original Kira’s, and is a darker colour, which connects him even more to Jotaro

    • @Flowerpowder
      @Flowerpowder 2 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      Kei and Kira are both Jotaros

    • @rudys.artous5477
      @rudys.artous5477 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This is what ive been thinking since ive first read jojolion

    • @GappyHigashikata9
      @GappyHigashikata9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Let's not forget the love that both have for hats

    • @justajobro1266
      @justajobro1266 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Kei is half joot half oku
      Kira is half jotaro half kira4

    • @Nhan6241
      @Nhan6241 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Perhaps he just doesn't want to go in-depth about that. Like how Josefumi Kujo has similar design to Josuke, Josuke 8 has the same name with Josuke 4 and Norisuke IV has the same character with Josuke 4.

  • @gamblingmocchi
    @gamblingmocchi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +607

    I would also like to add how Gappy's eye rock is a callback to Baoh's eye.

    • @HiAgainTheNameIsStillAyle
      @HiAgainTheNameIsStillAyle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      It's also a callback for Jotaro losing this exact eye everytime he dies (first explosion, when whitesnake took his discs and... You know....)

    • @HiAgainTheNameIsStillAyle
      @HiAgainTheNameIsStillAyle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@metalgamer8179 yup

    • @HiAgainTheNameIsStillAyle
      @HiAgainTheNameIsStillAyle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He died 3 times

    • @pishangkoyakofficialchanne5292
      @pishangkoyakofficialchanne5292 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@HiAgainTheNameIsStillAyle first explosion was Bites The Dust, White snake takes his stand and memory disc, and he finally died because he wanted to save jolyne

    • @HiAgainTheNameIsStillAyle
      @HiAgainTheNameIsStillAyle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@pishangkoyakofficialchanne5292 He literally ignores his plot armor to save Jolyne, what a man

  • @foranzo1582
    @foranzo1582 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Absolutely no idea why I read it as "JoJo cockballs." Must be Gappy energy

  • @lordfreezer5631
    @lordfreezer5631 2 ปีที่แล้ว +426

    Tooru mentions the ground having a memory. In part 6 Donatello Versace used his stand to take the memories from the ground to attack Jolyne and Hermes

    • @totallynotdio1311
      @totallynotdio1311 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      I believe he said a rock had memories not ground, but i may be wrong.

    • @lordfreezer5631
      @lordfreezer5631 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@totallynotdio1311 yes the he talked about a rock, but a rock is basically part of the ground

    • @okamisaiai5459
      @okamisaiai5459 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@lordfreezer5631 no

    • @lordfreezer5631
      @lordfreezer5631 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@okamisaiai5459 ok, but the concept is still a non living thing part of the environment having a memory

    • @ilterroremarchigiano4522
      @ilterroremarchigiano4522 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The rock was just a metaphor

  • @rickhuang4902
    @rickhuang4902 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Imagine after all these parts of support, part 9 main villain is the entire speedwagon foundation

  • @ivantimofeev6580
    @ivantimofeev6580 2 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    Josuke's haircut is clearly a reference to Jotaro's one. We can see it like never

    • @ronramen5827
      @ronramen5827 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Unlike Jotaro, we literally never see Gappy’s hair.

    • @yo5233
      @yo5233 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Well you can actually see jotaro's hair

    • @ivantimofeev6580
      @ivantimofeev6580 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I know, I know. The first Star Platinum appearance, Geb fight, Atum game.

    • @margarethmichelina5146
      @margarethmichelina5146 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Josefumi's haircut is also callback to Josuke in original universe

  • @fuckfacemcgeethe3806
    @fuckfacemcgeethe3806 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1679

    Man Jojolion was a jorney only started watching jojo around 2019 but fell in love instantly now im so exited for part 9 and exited to see more content from you hamonbeat!

    • @scottking8189
      @scottking8189 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Same boat as you, I feel a great connection with the people reading jojolion monthly

    • @dagtheking5739
      @dagtheking5739 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I also started in 2019. I did have a phase where I wished that I started in 2017 so that I can be hyped for the part 5 anime because both 5 and 6 are similar in artstyle, and that I felt that I'd be old enough to be intrigued and not try to spoil myself to the story.
      But, I got over that, and also I'm fine with part 6 being my first anime part. Plus, still lived with the jojolion era. ;)

    • @waffles5433
      @waffles5433 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@dagtheking5739 I was also 2019, guess that’s when the second wave of Jojo fans hit in America

    • @dagtheking5739
      @dagtheking5739 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@waffles5433 Ye, that means there'll be a third wave with SO.

    • @scan8501
      @scan8501 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exact same as me, started getting into the series in 2019, binged watched all of the anime and after watching part 5 I couldn’t get enough of it, it was like hitting gold, so started reading the manga even though I was hesitant at first because I didn’t wanna be spoiled but got over it quickly and eventually caught up to the monthly releases of jojolion… man what an adventure part 8 was.

  • @flaredend6145
    @flaredend6145 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Was it just me that thought Urban Guerilla and Doremifasolati Do were a callback to Cioccolata and Secco? Urban Guerilla was a doctor with a virus-like stand that dissolved its target, just like Cioccolata’s Green Day, which dissolved its targets with a fungus, and Doremifasolati Do was an animal-like being that could move through the soil as if it were liquid, just like Secco, who acted like an animal and could actually turn the soil into a liquid.

    • @beetheimmortal
      @beetheimmortal 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I didn't even think about that, but now that you mention it, it makes sense.

    • @theguywho4sked
      @theguywho4sked 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What they have done with my boy secco😢

  • @Alexgaby15Channel
    @Alexgaby15Channel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +143

    Daiya means Diamond and she's a Crazy Higashikata. Nuff said

    • @luigyluciano1665
      @luigyluciano1665 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      facts

    • @cookarain6205
      @cookarain6205 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What a crazy diamond

    • @tubbychubb3026
      @tubbychubb3026 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      The female Higashikatas’ names are all related to playing cards, I believe

  • @leblanc3536
    @leblanc3536 2 ปีที่แล้ว +234

    Callback: the main enemy of this part is the head of a criminal organization filled with stand users, hides his identity to lead said organization, uses his stand to act for him, and is mostly hidden until the later chapters

    • @diavolo1461
      @diavolo1461 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      he just like me fr

    • @FatherOFCrimzon
      @FatherOFCrimzon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I don't know why but this feels familiar

    • @FatherOFCrimzon
      @FatherOFCrimzon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@diavolo1461 where are you, I can't seem to spawn

    • @diavolo1461
      @diavolo1461 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@FatherOFCrimzon im dying my 1083717th death i miss watashi no kawaii king crimson 😔

    • @FatherOFCrimzon
      @FatherOFCrimzon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@diavolo1461 same

  • @margarethmichelina5146
    @margarethmichelina5146 2 ปีที่แล้ว +177

    King Nothing's ability is almost similiar to Moody Blues. Being a non-combat Stand and can rewind the event. While Moody Blues is using time, King Nothing is using scent.

    • @schnozgaming989
      @schnozgaming989 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      With difference what mb can actually kick some ass while kn can't fight at all

    • @theguywho4sked
      @theguywho4sked 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@schnozgaming989norisuke is a old man he dont need to fight

    • @schnozgaming989
      @schnozgaming989 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@theguywho4sked he is not that old, btw old guys in Jojo can kick ass

    • @theguywho4sked
      @theguywho4sked 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@schnozgaming989 yeah you are right in that point

  • @TheEntireCircus05
    @TheEntireCircus05 2 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    You missed one; in chapter 103 of JoJolion, the Head Doctor says the line, “So, are you going to approach, Josuke? Approach ME?” This is an obvious callback to the infamous line DIO says in part 3, “Oh? Are you approaching me?”

  • @Hades-cv1gt
    @Hades-cv1gt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    I love when Araki himself makes Jojo references

  • @iroga9764
    @iroga9764 2 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Urban Guerrila and Doremifasolatido are callbacks to Ciocolatta and Secco.
    Tooru shares many simmilarities with Kars.
    Wonder of U's blade arms are simillar to Kars' (and Baoh's) blade arms.

  • @okaymydude1657
    @okaymydude1657 2 ปีที่แล้ว +186

    the panel with jotaro's hat also contains johnny's, gyro's, and i think emporio's hat. there might be more that i dont recognize though
    edit: just realized that this a video about callbacks to the og universe

    • @memiix
      @memiix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      i dont think it counts since its callbacks to the original universe and emporios hat is very generic

    • @arneshpal7702
      @arneshpal7702 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@memiix emporio not generic 😂

    • @daylawashere
      @daylawashere 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@arneshpal7702 he looks like a young baseball fan 😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎

    • @memiix
      @memiix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@arneshpal7702 im talking about his hat

    • @D4SM4DD1N
      @D4SM4DD1N 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      emporios hat is missing the letter C but I think it's a reference nonetheless.
      also on the far right, below the speech box could be smokeys hat from part 2.

  • @derfuchs3296
    @derfuchs3296 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    The most important part 4 reference:
    The dog survives in the end (Police/Iwasuke)

  • @johnc._9822
    @johnc._9822 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Can't wait for "debunking Araki Forgot-Jojolion"

  • @malicioususer1837
    @malicioususer1837 2 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    You missed the fact that in Wonder of U's introduction, while he is in his fully robotic form, he is briefly seen having arm blades similar to Kars and Baoh.

  • @najadamu2724
    @najadamu2724 2 ปีที่แล้ว +164

    Also, the beetle fight between Josuke and Jobin is reminiscent of the gambling battles in Parts 3, 4, and 6.
    And Hato using Walking Heart to walk up the walls during the Damo fight is probably referencing Dio's famous wall-walking scene from Part 1.
    Oh, and the Rock Humans are pretty much just the AU Pillar Men.

  • @gaburiii
    @gaburiii 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1417

    Theory: the main character of JoJolion, Josuke, could be a reference to Diamond is Unbreakable protagonist, Josuke, since they both have the same name and surname. IK THAT'S CRAZY!!!!!

    • @atijohn8135
      @atijohn8135 2 ปีที่แล้ว +182

      nah, it's obviously a coincidence, they don't even have the same hair smh

    • @JhoJhoScalesandVs
      @JhoJhoScalesandVs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      @@atijohn8135 be careful dude when talking about josuke’s hair

    • @s333max2
      @s333max2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +105

      @@atijohn8135 DID YOU JUST SAY SOMETHING ABOUT MY HAIR!?

    • @higginswalsan
      @higginswalsan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Most definitely not a reference. Much like the “music references” in Jojo, this is merely a coincidence.

    • @garlicidk8554
      @garlicidk8554 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      as if

  • @iv624
    @iv624 2 ปีที่แล้ว +181

    I don’t know, this Araki guy sure looks like he’s copying Hirohikos diamond is unbreakable. Both main characters have same names and both have same setting. Araki and Hirohiko might have some problems now 😬

    • @AchillesofOblivion
      @AchillesofOblivion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      They both stole from David Productions original anime "Jojo no kimyou na bouken"

    • @theguywhoistheman1344
      @theguywhoistheman1344 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@AchillesofOblivion Yeah i'm wondering how they still didn't get sued, they also stole Stone Ocean, which David Productions will release soon, and finished it with their own ending, no dignity 😡😡😡

    • @chokkaijones
      @chokkaijones 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Damn. I never noticed

    • @KN-xn2ee
      @KN-xn2ee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lmao Araki and Hirohikos are the same person
      I get the joke tho

    • @leoisdumb5231
      @leoisdumb5231 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@KN-xn2ee 💀

  • @jcman-lp6lg
    @jcman-lp6lg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    damn Josuke be banging alternate world Koichi

  • @judeconnor-macintyre9874
    @judeconnor-macintyre9874 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Araki during part 2: What's a Clacker?
    Araki after 30 years: I...I remember everything.

  • @ArcKurosaki
    @ArcKurosaki 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    "...the daughter of Holly Joestar and sister to Yoshikage Kira" damn part 8 is wild, and this isn't even the craziest thing in it.

  • @batthew2725
    @batthew2725 2 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    i'd love to see a video of you analyzing The Wonder of You arc's themes and ideas, similar to your Heaven Plan video. it's one of my new favorite jojo arcs for sure

    • @iroga9764
      @iroga9764 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      The theme of the fight is interesting, but due to Tooru's ability being reactive, it gets repetitive very fast.
      Also, unlike most fights in jojo, Tooru is not defeated by being outsmarted, but by Josukes spinning bubble just being stronger.

    • @blobofmeatwhoexist8460
      @blobofmeatwhoexist8460 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@iroga9764 Hmm... although i'm not going to argue because i kinda feel it's slightly repetitive but he loses because of kaato outsmarts him, maybe you could argue that josuke helps but still tho he loses because of kaato

    • @iroga9764
      @iroga9764 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@blobofmeatwhoexist8460 fair

    • @iroga9764
      @iroga9764 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@starless267 part 1 Dio was beaten by Johnathan setting his fist on fire in order to not get frozen by Dio.
      In part 3 Jotaro's stand is literally weaker than The World and he had to use it more efficiently to beat DIO.
      In part 4 Josuke has to use his ability to its maximum extent to beat KQ.
      In part 5, Giorno transformed his blood on the arrow into termites to get the stand arrow.
      In part 7, Johnny made the horse kick him in order to use the Golden ratio.
      I'm surprised you brought up part 2 since Joseph beats Kars by pure luck.

    • @AchillesofOblivion
      @AchillesofOblivion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@iroga9764 Bruno sacrificed himself for Giorno to obtain the arrow as well.

  • @Flowerpowder
    @Flowerpowder 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I thought Joshu’s position when Josuke joined the Higashikata family was similar to part 1 Jonathan when Dio joined his family

    • @projekttaku1
      @projekttaku1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Joshu really do be that AU Jonathan.

  • @CrackedVinyl21
    @CrackedVinyl21 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Josuke crying after eating Mamezuku's food could be a callback to Antonio from part 4

  • @imjustherefortehlulz
    @imjustherefortehlulz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    There were more hat references in the hat shop that you missed

  • @misschin99
    @misschin99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I always thought Josefumi's hair looked more like a cross between Okuyasu's and Josuke's.

  • @bozmundarts2614
    @bozmundarts2614 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    i know this is supposed to be disconnected from the alter universe from the ending of part 6, but... remember you said how the joestar bloodline wasnt anymore fated to fight evil and such in that new universe? it kind of reminds me... that so far these two new protagonists werent called by destiny to fight evil or something, none came to them, none attacked them, jhonny joined the steel ball run and unraveled later on the secrets of the race because he wanted to, he chose to, yes he wanted to follow gyro but to learn of the spin to overcome his crippled state. and josuke wanted to discover his identity, josuke just chose to discover the truths of himself and the world around him, and even josefumi just chose to help kira with his idea of stealing a rokakaka, kira planned that because his mother was ill, not because he wanted to fight some kind of evil in the first place, the idea of fighting an evil becomes a little more secondary as the identities and how their main characters choose to live becomes prior. that has given these last twos part such a personal, humaine feel to them that is unexpectable as ourselves human beings at our core best.
    idk if im just rambling but i hope that makes sense to anyone out there...

    • @lighthorizons7595
      @lighthorizons7595 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The ending of Part 6 is not connected to the new universe

    • @bozmundarts2614
      @bozmundarts2614 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@lighthorizons7595 i said that in the first line of my comment? Jeez.
      Im just pointing out how smoothly they connect... stuff araki himself has put into the manga after all.

    • @fenrir639
      @fenrir639 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@starless267 Pretty sure is the other way around. In Sleeping Slaves it was stated that the fate decided the meeting between Bruno and Giorno (originally it wasn't supposed to be like that, but Mista changed it) as well as the fate of the gang, and because we know the gang died the way they did and why they did it (helping Bruno and Giorno to defeat Diavolo), you can say it was destiny (even if Giorno choosed his goal without knowing about it).

    • @fenrir639
      @fenrir639 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@starless267 It's true that he choosed to follow that path, but that just happened because he met Bruno, and the same with him, he only went against Diavolo because he met Giorno.
      The epilogue showed that the fate made that meeting possible. If Bruno didn't met Giorno then Diavolo could kill him in the church (cause even if Polpo were alive, he would give the Trish task to Bruno anyways) and that alone fulfills the first "prophecy" of the rock (where only Bucciarati died); but 2nd "prophecy" shows the rest of the gang dead (except Fugo and Mista), and that JUST happened because Giorno was there to help Bruno to stay alive as long as possible to found the plan of Diavolo.

    • @ogpotatosauce9740
      @ogpotatosauce9740 ปีที่แล้ว

      A

  • @eemelimeemeli
    @eemelimeemeli 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Here are a few more:
    Rock humans are basically this universes pillar men. Josuke and Yasuho from this universe have stands named after Prince songs similar to how Josuke and Koichi from the original universe have stands named after Pink Floyd songs. Joshu and Yukako both have hair as a very prominent feature of their design and they both have a crush on their parts Hirose.

  • @walter4180
    @walter4180 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    >Jojolion finishes
    Me: Rubs hands together aggressively waiting for the next "Araki Forgot"

  • @saskiaviking9447
    @saskiaviking9447 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    That pine tree having markings could be a reference to Jonathan and Erina marking words on their tree in part 1

  • @janisrukers
    @janisrukers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Yusuho Hirose names Gappy Josuke after her dead dog who looked like him and Koichi Hirose in part 4 also had a dog

  • @AsterDXZ
    @AsterDXZ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Araki Forgot: The Lion in Jojolion

    • @leetri
      @leetri 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Clearly you didn't pay attention. The lion was on vacation with the Flashback Man and they had a wonderful time together.

    • @MysteryGeek2006
      @MysteryGeek2006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There was no lion only tigers

    • @Jamey22794
      @Jamey22794 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "lion" inside jojolion not the animal lion,jojolion's lion meaning just like the lion inside evagelion

  • @ben10inches
    @ben10inches 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    i feel like Josefumi getting his name from a sandal that Joseph discarded could call back to how Josuke got his hairstyle. Both got their identity from acts of kindness of some sort, even if it's not directly connected to Josefumi it's still something to think about

    • @valerielusa8000
      @valerielusa8000 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think the better parallel is how Josefumi makes it his life's mission to save Holly. Both characters shape their lives around someone who saved them as a child.

  • @zaconmacon565
    @zaconmacon565 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    at 1:26 you can see johnny and gyro's hats

  • @kadunk322
    @kadunk322 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    On major one to add would be how the blue hawai fight is a close match the highway star fight from part 4
    On the is debatable is the rock humans. Many tied them to the pillar men which is fair, but the group structure and functions closely resemble passion from part 5. Both deal in a "drug" trade, and both have two major groups with a hidden leader at the top. Assasin, guard, and diavolo for part 5 with the fruit trade, hospital staff, and toru for part 8. One could even say the wonder of u fight is close to silver chariot requiem as both were stands you could not approach without consequences.

  • @da_pikmin_coder8367
    @da_pikmin_coder8367 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "Wonder of U" is a reference to Elvis Presley's "The Wonder of You". But I also thought it might have been a reference to Judgement's signature phrase "HAIL 2 U!" Because of the way it's spelled with a "U" instead of a "You".
    Of course, this could just be a stretch on my part, and it's just a coincidence.

    • @petersansgaming8783
      @petersansgaming8783 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's probably more likely a Prince reference because Prince song names also used "U" instead of "You".

  • @mersonkrazyTV
    @mersonkrazyTV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    It's so cool to see what's similar between the two universes, while also seeing and enjoying how much original stuff there is! I loved this part!

  • @Dreamfillah
    @Dreamfillah 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Kato's hairstyle was quite reminiscent to Jolyne's, ontop of her being imprisoned in the Stone Ocean prison.

  • @stormRed
    @stormRed 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    My headcanon for this universe's Rohan is that he's a no good delinquent this time.

  • @amesstarline5482
    @amesstarline5482 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I still find it odd how there's a Speedwagon Foundation in the SBRverse.

    • @dripofu
      @dripofu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Speedwagon is so Alpha that he becomes a millionaire in every universe and dimension

  • @totallynotdio1311
    @totallynotdio1311 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Honestly, id like to see your subjective review of jojolion as a whole. Most of the time youre trying to be objective, but id love to hear what is your opinion.

  • @AsuratheKid
    @AsuratheKid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video as always, beat. You missed the scene of Hato walking up the Higashikata house with the help of her stand being a callback to Dio walking up the pillar in the Joestar mansion in Part 1.

  • @sezunemizuhana3870
    @sezunemizuhana3870 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm SO looking forward to Debunking Araki forgot Part 8!

  • @dayhawkify
    @dayhawkify 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the explosive bubbles remind me of him using the cats bubbles

  • @sokmalinowy6038
    @sokmalinowy6038 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    In the hat store you can also see Gyro's, Johnny's and Emporio's hats.

  • @clivsey
    @clivsey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Also, Hazekura high school/elementary school at the end of Shakedown Road seems to be a reference to Mikitaka's surname from part 4.

  • @dribio
    @dribio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Mamezuku's stand ability it's very similar to Mountain Tim stand, 'Oh! Lonesome Me'.

  • @edwinjohnson5964
    @edwinjohnson5964 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for putting all the work into this man, appreciate it

  • @PedroOver9000
    @PedroOver9000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I thought shakedown road was somewhat of a callback to the street where you can't look back in part 4

  • @sio3940
    @sio3940 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I wonder if the next part has 2 jojo's , like siblings

  • @arrowtongue
    @arrowtongue 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I actually think that SBR has less references to the original universe than JJL, considering that JJL's plot is more centered around the family, Kira, and Killer Queen, those aspects from the original series are more present in the way the story unfolds, where outside of High Voltage, SBR has hardly anything in common with the 1st series parts it draws from outside of names, and I suppose Diego, not that I'm complaining, it's very refreshing that they stay nearly entirely as callbacks and don't interfere with the entirely new series in any huge way.

  • @juri101
    @juri101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Holly writing information on her body to remember things about her life is similiar to Jolyne writing information on her body during the Jail House Lock fight

  • @breadboi8578
    @breadboi8578 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    So glad hamon beat can finally make videos about all of jojolion now that it ended

  • @gastonfourt5363
    @gastonfourt5363 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Also how after stopping the thief from stealing lucy's luggage, Joseph's wallet got stolen anyway. Just like it was stolen twice before him in the original universe, both by a friend and his son.

  • @soapybread
    @soapybread 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Jojolion was amazing. love jojo fully and it will always stay as my favourite anime/manga. So excited to see what araki has for us next

  • @magnoatarashii
    @magnoatarashii 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    incredible that so soon after the end of jojolion you already putting out videos like this, I'm thankful for your work that is so valuable for this community!!

  • @JohnDoe-wl6qe
    @JohnDoe-wl6qe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was waiting for this one for a while

  • @alexisjoaquinfarias8754
    @alexisjoaquinfarias8754 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Something I noticed is that Norisuke has many similarities with Yuya Funagami from part 4 like the ability of King Nothing who is a long distance Stand with little physical power, his ability to track specific odors and in a chapter (I don't remember which one) Kato mentions that when Norisuke is nervous he touches his chin just like Yuya Funagami did in the Enigma Boy arc.

  • @shanegeiger1708
    @shanegeiger1708 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video. One callback I don’t see referenced a lot is the Urban Guerrilla/Doremefasolatido fight being very similar to Cioccolatta/Secco. A doctor with a virus stand that eats away flesh and a animal that can swim through the ground.

  • @Lernyd
    @Lernyd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just came back to this channel after finishing part 8, and the timing couldn't be more perfect.

  • @diavolo1461
    @diavolo1461 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i was waiting for this video

  • @thelosershow2359
    @thelosershow2359 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The stepping on the shadow was a reference to part 2 where kars stepped on wammu's shadow which he is scared of for some reason

    • @lordfreezer5631
      @lordfreezer5631 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wammu is not scared, he just thinks that it's disrespectful to step on his shadow

  • @J_productionss
    @J_productionss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Make an entire video discussing the erasure of Haruno Higashikata from the story out of nowhere.

    • @malicioususer1837
      @malicioususer1837 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think Haruno's disappearance is a callback to Fugo's disappearance. Also, they both have really high IQs and similar attitudes. Haruno has gotta be this universe's Fugo.

  • @Ssjvaca
    @Ssjvaca 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was waiting for this!

  • @jarsaway1503
    @jarsaway1503 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hamon beat really deserves more subscribers

  • @spookeg5812
    @spookeg5812 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The dolomite fight plays out similar to the highway star (stand that can chase from distance, jouske gets help from koichi/yashuo, tracks the user down)
    Yashuo also remind me a bit of trish, pink hair, connected to the main villain (tooru/diavolo) both their stands manifest independently and help fight against a long range stand that is seemingly unstoppable (born this way/notorious BIG)
    Those are a couple that ive seen, i might be reaching tho

  • @Feeble_Weeble
    @Feeble_Weeble 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1:25 there is also Johnny's hat, Gyro's hat, and I believe the baseball cap under Jotaro's hat may be a reference to Emporio

  • @NeoAya
    @NeoAya ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The idea of Rock Humans being an alternate branch of humanoid lifeforms separate from humans is similar to that of Pillar Men from part 2

  • @YatogamiLuca
    @YatogamiLuca 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm very exited for more part 8 videos!

  • @tommymiles966
    @tommymiles966 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Gang gang

  • @harrypotterandthechamberis3
    @harrypotterandthechamberis3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Been waiting for this for a long time

  • @AnEarthPerson
    @AnEarthPerson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can’t wait for part 9!

  • @tylamason6712
    @tylamason6712 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The amount of callbacks you see in this video that aren't even mentioned is just amazing

  • @oStillAliveo
    @oStillAliveo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'd like to hear your take on what the "Flashback Man" was supposed to be. If it's a dropped plot point, if it'll be picked up in "JoJolands" , etc.

    • @Skibbutz
      @Skibbutz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Flashback man was retconned. Jouske says no memories from before his birth will ever come back. Flashback man was clearly presented as jouske having a previous memory come back to him. Araki changed what he wanted to do with the story

    • @oStillAliveo
      @oStillAliveo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Skibbutz The memory of Flashback man took place after Josuke's birth. You clearly see in the memory that it's Josuke looking at him, not Kira or Josefumi.

  • @basedturu2320
    @basedturu2320 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    araki forgot part 8 can't wait

  • @25usd94
    @25usd94 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's great to see jojo references in jojo

  • @jayfugazi9751
    @jayfugazi9751 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:30 i remember when this chapter released, people were going crazy theorizing that emporio was back and going to connect the two universes or something only for him to die the next chapter lol

  • @eckeck1723
    @eckeck1723 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Jousuke is born from a mixture of two different people. One being a Joestar, and the other not.
    Giorno is born from a mixture of two different people. One being a Joestar, and the other not.

    • @HabitualThinker
      @HabitualThinker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      DIO would legally be a joestar, as he was officially adopted by George joestar |

    • @yesme5470
      @yesme5470 ปีที่แล้ว

      both josefumi and kira are joestars

    • @lordfreezer5631
      @lordfreezer5631 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yesme5470 Josefumi is not a Joestar. The panel where he has the Joestars' birthmark was mistake, infact in the most recent volmume releases the birthmark has been removed. Also it was really clear in the story that he was not a Joestar as when we saw him as a kid in the chapter where he almost drowns in the sea, he has no birthmark. And the end of the Fumi's flashback remarked even more that Josefumi is not a Joestar

  • @sailorhatguy5763
    @sailorhatguy5763 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I always thought the existence of Gappy is a more complex version of Kosaku Kawajiri

  • @16thhaven7
    @16thhaven7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Let’s gooo the jojolion videos have begun

  • @ghostraptor1741
    @ghostraptor1741 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Alright it’s time to araki forgot for part 8. How the hell did rai and josuke get a Lamborghini in a tree

    • @absoruriver5621
      @absoruriver5621 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean, Rai's whole thing is harvesting fruit from a cable car. Just some stand shenanigans

  • @guillo_2222
    @guillo_2222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Do you think you could make a video talking about the curses and the blessings in jojolion, maybe like your fate in jojo video? I feel like it is very relevant since most people seemed to miss the point of it and it's relevance in the themes of the part

  • @fuckfacemcgeethe3806
    @fuckfacemcgeethe3806 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Also woudent Jobin count as a callback to yuya fungami from part 4? both have a deep purple song as a stand an yuyas tie has Speed king written on it

  • @man-batiszkokabatsow4153
    @man-batiszkokabatsow4153 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The baseball player with broken jaw thanks to a Lokakaka's exchange may be a reference to a baseball player that had destroyed jaw thanks to Made in Heaven's time acceleration

  • @Splash2170
    @Splash2170 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Even though I haven't caught to jojolion I am really hyped for just a new part to be made

  • @jafedavila6619
    @jafedavila6619 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I never believe that you will finally end Jojolion Callbacks.

  • @giornobpr6546
    @giornobpr6546 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've been actually wondering if the Josuke Higashikata part 4 and part 8 were the same person but now I know they're just different people in different timelines but JoJo Eyes of Heaven they've pretty much fucked my mind when Josuke Part 8 told bull cut not to make fun of Part 4 Josuke's hair

  • @elchico9227
    @elchico9227 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i've always said that the "combination" of josefumi and kira its also a subtle reference to part 4 , because while in that part the combination between kira's stand and stray cats power enables killer queen to use bubbles has attacks , in jojolion its the combination of kira with josefumi ,a person who doesnt have a father or mother figure , resulting in kira and holly being the only ones that showed him some kind of care , thus making josefumi some kind of "stray cat" the result on "soft and wet" being an interesting parallel of the things that fusion (while in DIU its only the stands the ones that merge , in jojolion its the characters resembling the stands of DIU the ones to do so , thus repercuting in the abilites of soft and wet

  • @arneshpal7702
    @arneshpal7702 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Let's go new intro!!!
    I am waiting for Araki Forgot 😂