I just had a thought. So, they are the Destiny Islands, plural, because Kairi, Riku, and Sora live on an archipelago, and the main one we see is just an island they go out to to play on. (That is if I am remembering correctly, and I'm pretty sure I am.) They plan to make a raft to escape, and explore the wider world. How do they get to the play island? Do they have a boat? Why are they making a raft? I guess to leave the boat for Tidus, Wakka, and Selphie, and so they don't have to row as much on the open ocean??
Fun fact, Vanitas didn't have a face until Ventus' heart found Sora's and created a link between them. And that's how Vanitas took on Sora's appearance ^-^
That’s basically how I interpreted it Vanitas had a Xion situation until Ventus linked with Sora Since Sora was more than likely the stronger of the two hearts at that point…Vanitas takes on the appearance of Sora in response
@@ceaselessroad9294in kh3 Vanitas says something similar when he reveals his face to Sora in their battle between the 7 lights and 13 darknesses Also it is Canon. Nomura explained this back in 2010 In bbs ultimania
To be fair its FAR easier to figure out the mysteries of the Universe and creation of all life then it is to understand and explain Kingdom hearts to someone who has never played the games.
I find the plot is less complicated and more absurd giving it the appearance of being overly complicated. At least until DDD. That definitely got wonky but no worse then a lot of popular anime’s. Like so many characters being “sora” is completely absurd, actually seeing it played out in game(s) it makes perfect sense. It’s just the idea of seeing Micheal in a black leather coat up to his ears is so absurd my friend refuses to listen.
@@alzingafagan7501 as a long time kh fan starting with the first game 20 years ago, the story is extremely convoluted. Don't get me wrong, I get the mass majority of it because I've played them all, but it's definitely a clusterfuck of writing that I kinda can't stop experiencing because I'm in too deep lmao
Well, Yozora's heart isn't in Sora's. It's likely that pieces of Sora's heart are in Yozora's. Which, could explain why Yozora looks like Riku. It's like when Sora's memories made Xion look somewhat like Kairi.
@@rubyscarlett1536 MAJOR SPOILERS! Yozora is part of Kingdom Hearts III and Kingdom Hearts III Re𝄌Mind as set up for the new arc in Kingdom Hearts IV. His existance as a character going forward is kind of a spoiler in itself, because when he's initially introduced, it's as a character in a videogame that Rex plays in the Toy Story world.
Oh boy I’m about to add to the problem. Vanitas technically did not have a face when he was born (hence why he appeared in the helmet). It was only after Ventus’ fractured heart touched Sora’s heart around the time of his birth that it resinated through to Vanitas and gained his Sora Similarities (or Sorarities) Source: Tetsua Nomura Interview in Birth By Sleep Ultimania 2010
There wasnt two time where sora helped ventus with his heart problem? Thus the first one when there was the cutscene of ventus and master xehanort in Destiny Islands would be the first one (ventus becomes a somenody in a way and starts to train under xehanort). And the second time was in bbs ending.
@@deadmokes540 first time was during or close to Sora’s birth, where his heart guided Ventus’ heart back to his body, second time when his heart was broken, Sora took his fractured heart inside of him So when Sora’s heart helped return Ventus’ back to him was when Vanitas gained the similar facial features of Sora (due to the bond Ventus and Vanitas shared)
Imagine your friend explains the Dark Seeker Saga and you finally make sense of it and think it’s finally over. Then you find out about the Lost Masters Arc
I was confused the day I’ve seen that the dlc of Kingdom Hearts 3 IS the REAL ENDING !! But at the same time it’s erased the ending of the real game so retcon it in order to give the full explanation ! So when you start it you think it’s a sequel but in fact nope it’s just the end again but harder and tell differently It’s so weird
@@tod557You are correct so the video creator got it wrong. Vanitas with mask only is created when they split and Ventus was Shell like as heart was weak being fractured then ventus linked hearts with sora and could use a keyblade so Xehonart dump him with Eraqus leading to KHBBS. This link with soras heart link leads to vanitas sharing this connection but at this time sora is still a kid so vanitas wouldn't look like sora as a child but an older version closer to Ventus age. So Vanitas looked like Sora we know ironically before Sora from KH before Sora actually does since BBS is 10 years prior to KH as chronologically the first game
Before Sora filled the gaps in Vens heart, I think Vanitas either didn't have a face under the helmet or looked more like Ven. Afterwards, since Vanitas IS the missing part of Vens heart, when that was filled by someone else he took on an appearance similar to them, in this case Sora. That's my theory at least.
Explaining the last part: (spoilers) vanitas is 1 of 13 pure darknesses from ancient times that merged with Ven hundreds of years ago when he was tricked by vanitas in thinking he was picked to being a leader. He merged with it bc you can only kill a pure darkness if it has a body to kill it in! Ven and others took a portal to the future and landed merged with vanitas untill he was extracted by X
HOLY CRAP I just found this short and was going to almost the exact same comment lol my head cannon is that when ven was left on destiny island and the newborn Sora's heart helped repair Ven's broken heart, vanitas took on the appearance of an older Sora cause that took the place of the missing part in Ven's heart (Vanitas)
Manga explains why vanitas looks like sora, he was faceless until the link was formed. Edit: This is probably my most controversial comment just for stating something that happened
Nah. I don't buy it. Thats just bs. Roxas and Soras hearts first link was when sora was a newborn. BBS first minutes says it literally. So the true reason is that soras newborn heart was influenced by Ventus fractured heart. This influence is what affected Soras appearance.
@@roycehuepers4325 that’s like complaining that you don’t understand whats happening in LoTR Return of the King because you never watched Fellowship or Two Towers
Kingdom hearts not as confusing in my opinion I understood a lot of it and every character is linked because of heart links and its a big part of kingdom hearts as a whole. when hearts link they can become more powerful than the darkness. 7 seekers of light /people who share heart links and 13 seekers of darkness / people who didn't link or did and shattered themselves on purpose for a darker goal.
KH fans overcomplicate the lore Yeah theres a lot to take in, but the lore is puddle deep lol Play the games in release order, and simply pay attention, and thats good enough
Because FNAF lore is really confusing because you will always be put in the dilemma of which of this 2 realities is the real one,what is real what is not,do some of the FNAF game really exists,do some characters really exist it's just confusing
except most of it isn't needed to understand the plot. People get so fussy over the extra details when the stuff needed to follow the story can be explained in 30 minutes or less. like sure you could explain everything down to the difference between Xehanort created heartless and pureblood heartless but that's just background info. KH isn't really that complicated it's just built up a lot of side lore over the years.
@@metazoxan2you’re probably saying that because you’ve read the comics, did research etc when us regular gamers just wanna play a fun game that we can understand idont get the point of these stupid plot twists that don’t even shock me they just make me double confused now. Make the game easy to understand like Mario or something 🙄
@@blogorab7649 Incorrect. I know people that got into KH much later and the ONLY thing I had to explain to him to understand the main story was what happened in the games he had no interest in playing and even that was just a summary. Kingdom Hearts are games you can just have fun with and understand if you aren't intentionally tyring to confuse yourself. The details are spread out and a lot of lore requires you to do side stuff to learn. But again a lot of that isn't needed to understand the main plot. Again a good example is Xehanort heartless vs pureblood heartless. The fact is heartless with the red heart crest are ones created by Xehanort. Ones without a crest are naturally born. But at no point do you NEED to know this. Again the lore isn't complicated it's just a lot of extra details are spread out. let me put it this way. if ONLY KH1,KH2, chain of memories, Birth by sleep existed then the only plot points you'd have to remove from KH3 to be able to follow it is the existence of Xion and what happened to Sora at the end of Dream Drop distance. that's only 4 games you actually need to follow the main story and aside from reading the ansem reports you don't need to go lore hunting within them. But hey ... how about this. What do you NOT understand about the MAIN story of Kingdom Hearts? I'll answer a few questions and point out which of the 4 games explained them. Again keep in mind I'm just talking the main story not every minor detail about every backstory in the fairly large cast of characters.
Ah, man. I miss KH2. Back when things were simple. When it was just Sora and his Nobody Roxas. When it was just Xehanort and his Heartless Ansem and Nobody Xemnas. When I could still keep track of the damn characters.
@sobeksuwek Agree KH2 was when the game and story were at its best. However, the First KH game had a certain charm and was more Simple and Clean in terms of story.
@@sobeksuwek No, that part was simple! Xeanhort essentially stole Ansem's identity and the turned himself into a heartless and a nobody who, to keep the sharade up, based their names off ansem
In the cutscene when vanitas is freed he has his mask on I think before he didn’t have a face but after Ventus and sora combined hearts his face came to mirror sora’s (of course at ventus’ age) also remember if vanitas were to take over ven’s body his face would become ven’s or ya know they’d just look like ventus because their the same person
No, ventus and Vanitas are not the same person, it was reveal that Vanitas is actually one of the darknesses hundred's of years ago, Vanitas enter Ventus body to control him and kill strelixia who we learn is Marluxia's sister. Ventus then trapps Vanitas inside him making it impossible for him to escape, the reason Vanitas looks like Sora is because of Ventus heart being broken in the begining of Bbs, the longer the darknesses stay inside a heart the more they become influence by the person. Ventus actually hated himself, his own weakness and when they were split, Vanitas took Ventus darkness with him, so a fraction of his heart, when Sora made contact with them he gave Vanitas a form because of the link he created by interacting with Ventus heart since there was already a connection between Vanitas and Ventus. Also when Vanitas was first form after being forced out of Ventus he didn't really have a face it was more a dark mob with red bitty eyes, it wasn't until Sora makes contct with them that Vanitas gains a face. Originally Vanitas didn't have a physical form as the darknesses don't have physical forms.
Vanitas looks like sora because sora and ventus linked their hearts before Vanitas came into existence and that is why ventus heart traveled to sora once he sacrificed himself as they already had a connection
@Blaze-cr2iu yea, im pretty sure xion was created by the memories of sora bc of when namine was manipulating and taking soras memories and thats why she had to die because sora needed all of his memories back and it also explains why she could use his keyblade. Sorta.
Vanitas didnt have a form within the suit until after Ventus joined Sora. Also Xion was a puppet sapping Roxas of Sora's memories to prevent sora from being woken up in Castle Oblivion
Trying to explain kingdom hearts to people feels like having a stroke so I can only imagine what it sounds like to someone who’s never interacted with it
Vanitas did not have a face when he was first created after Xehanort extracted the darkness from Ventus heart. It wasn't until later his face took the form or shape of Sora. This was explained in the kingdom hearts BBS guide. Just in case if you all were wondering.
This was literally me everytime😂whenever I’d show my sister a funny kh cutscene, I’d then have to pause a minute in to loredump so she stops asking why the whiney hippie with the mullet kept calling sora “roxas” over and over
It's because sora filled what Ven was missing his darkness so sora grew up to look that was to match his role it's the same reason who xhanort terra ends up looking looks like xhanort as he gets older the container changes to match it's contents
Actually...clears throat lol. The connection ventus had with sora was at soras birth or around it. Sora help fill his heart when xehanort came to dispose of a comatose ven on destiny Islands. Before this vanitas was formless in his helmet. It was until this moment that he probably took soras form, and this is also shortly before xehanort decided to leave ven with eraqus which was some years before sora was seen as a child in game.
My brother would literally explain to me the whole basis of the game and broke it down to little fragments and I still don't understand. But this skit brought me nostalgic joy from when me and my brother were kids and he'd explain that to me every single time I'd see him play it to the point he play it in secrecy so I'd stop asking him
@@zenoblues7787 only if you don't play the games and the only contact you have with the story is through joke videos. If you play and bother to read the secret reports, there is no major confusion.
Nah you see Xion is Sora and Kairi same time and for that explanation you need to go back to KH 1 KH Card game and KH 300 days and after that is irrelevant cause she receives the same as Roxas treatment in KH3 but same time is not our Xion but same time is Xion. Got that? Cause that one is a simple explanation now we move to Namine and hold on to your brain cause this one doesn't make sense.
Is not just memories of sora, they are all of his actual memories, since he was slowly losing them during the castle adventure they were being put on her, sora takes a year to wake up because his memories are being reconstructed from 0, which means he never got his original memories back but has a duplicate of them
@@Shadowkiller-dq2ju Yes but Xion was made with some memory part of Kairi or cause Sora had/sharing Kairi heart something like that, point is your correct but we also gotta remember why xion looks like Kairi that's cause again Sora and Kairi bond,share heart,memories or something what's that something? I'm betting on the heart sharing that happen in KH 1 when Sora became a shadow or is memories of Kairi? Don't know really.
Grown adults scratching their head trying to figure out KH lore is always so funny to me. I understood everything during my first playthrough when I was 10.
The novelization of Birth By Sleep reveals that Vanitas was born without a face and only begun to look like Sora AFTER Sora's newborn heart connected with Ventus.
For le there are only 2 options in the Vanitas/Sora looking alike situation. #1 As Sora grew older, he began to look more like Vanitas due to the link he shares with Ventus. A kind of, becoming what they need, situation where Sora reflection of what Ventus lost and still needs. #2 Vanitas face is an omen from the future. Maybe in the sense that another who shares his face will come about that'll link his heart with Ventus and be at the center of events leading into the future KH stories. Maybe even an example of time not exactly being linear in the KH universe given the return of so many characters in KH3.
One way i can go around the mystery of Vanitas's face upon creation, I'd be thinking he was faceless, just a shaped black head with yellow/red pupils and maybe a mouth, and the helmet helped hiding this. Then after Ventus makes the link with Sora's heart, we get the iconic face of Vanitas.
Sora left that fucking island and shattered into an entire cast of characters
And not a ONE came back for that dinner his mom cooked
Worst thing to ever happen to bro fr. Should have just eaten dinner
Better this than that shit he did in 3 and in the DLC that destroyed history and himself to save Kairi
I just had a thought.
So, they are the Destiny Islands, plural, because Kairi, Riku, and Sora live on an archipelago, and the main one we see is just an island they go out to to play on. (That is if I am remembering correctly, and I'm pretty sure I am.) They plan to make a raft to escape, and explore the wider world.
How do they get to the play island? Do they have a boat? Why are they making a raft? I guess to leave the boat for Tidus, Wakka, and Selphie, and so they don't have to row as much on the open ocean??
so did xehanort
Everyone is either Sora or Xehanort (or Goofy)
and NEVER Donald
Its all kinda goofy
@@VolatilisAzurealso NEVER Michael
@@Kaiser8513I'm sorry, am I missing the page? Who is Michael? 💀
@@steveniumprime the mouse
Sora and the sorta's
This comment is underrated
Perfect comment 😂
Someone has to start a KH themed band and use this name
Great comment😂😂😂
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Fun fact, Vanitas didn't have a face until Ventus' heart found Sora's and created a link between them. And that's how Vanitas took on Sora's appearance ^-^
That’s basically how I interpreted it
Vanitas had a Xion situation until Ventus linked with Sora
Since Sora was more than likely the stronger of the two hearts at that point…Vanitas takes on the appearance of Sora in response
This actually makes more sense!
kinda, that comes from a manga that’s not confirmed to be canon iirc, it’s probably more of a fate kind of thing
But Ventus only meets with Sora after his final fight against Vanitas where we see his face... did i miss something?
@@ceaselessroad9294in kh3 Vanitas says something similar when he reveals his face to Sora in their battle between the 7 lights and 13 darknesses
Also it is Canon. Nomura explained this back in 2010 In bbs ultimania
To be fair its FAR easier to figure out the mysteries of the Universe and creation of all life then it is to understand and explain Kingdom hearts to someone who has never played the games.
I played the games when I was younger and am replaying them on pc, and I still don't understand what is happening
I’ve played all the games ,and still don’t fucking know lol.
True. The answer to life, the universe, and everything is after all, 42.
Nah it just depends on their patience, abou half an hour should do
Oh I understand it, just can't explain it😅
"It's all Sora?"
"Always has been?
I love how not even the second person is sure
@@zeothesnowwolf2937 no one knows for sure, that's Kingdom Hearts in a nutshell
“Also maybe Xeahnort?”
@@zeothesnowwolf2937 *still backstabs the first person with a keyblade*
Kingdom hearts: into the soraverse🗝️
“Well, yes. But actually, no.” Literally the entire plot of kingdom hearts lol
Facts!
This!
Lol YES!
This is me explaining anything to my mom as she watches me replay the series.
😂😂
You're Sora, he's Sora, I'm Sora, is there any other Soras I'm forgetting about?
"Meow Sora"
Xion: You are Sora, he is Sora, I am Sora, is there any other Sora I should meet?
heartless sora: meow
* dolphin sounds far away *
Best comment award goes to.😂😂
Sans: first time kid
Fuck… am I Sora?
“We’re definitely not gonna focus on that right now”
Most relatable thing ever
😂😂
Nomurrraaaaa
"we're not gonna focus on that right now"
I felt that
Honestly the friend is understanding more than I'd expect
And they say KH lore is complicated.
@alzingafagan7501 it is it really is
I find the plot is less complicated and more absurd giving it the appearance of being overly complicated.
At least until DDD. That definitely got wonky but no worse then a lot of popular anime’s.
Like so many characters being “sora” is completely absurd, actually seeing it played out in game(s) it makes perfect sense. It’s just the idea of seeing Micheal in a black leather coat up to his ears is so absurd my friend refuses to listen.
@@alzingafagan7501 as a long time kh fan starting with the first game 20 years ago, the story is extremely convoluted. Don't get me wrong, I get the mass majority of it because I've played them all, but it's definitely a clusterfuck of writing that I kinda can't stop experiencing because I'm in too deep lmao
@@raisin328 you've ascended to the level of 'just roll with it'
Is that all the hearts in Sora?
Nomura: Also Yozora.
Yozora😂 rex knows
Well, Yozora's heart isn't in Sora's.
It's likely that pieces of Sora's heart are in Yozora's. Which, could explain why Yozora looks like Riku. It's like when Sora's memories made Xion look somewhat like Kairi.
Which game is Yozora from?
@@rubyscarlett1536
MAJOR SPOILERS!
Yozora is part of Kingdom Hearts III and Kingdom Hearts III Re𝄌Mind as set up for the new arc in Kingdom Hearts IV.
His existance as a character going forward is kind of a spoiler in itself, because when he's initially introduced, it's as a character in a videogame that Rex plays in the Toy Story world.
@zanderlaitinen7109 it's Sorta Noctis
Oh boy I’m about to add to the problem.
Vanitas technically did not have a face when he was born (hence why he appeared in the helmet). It was only after Ventus’ fractured heart touched Sora’s heart around the time of his birth that it resinated through to Vanitas and gained his Sora Similarities (or Sorarities)
Source: Tetsua Nomura Interview in Birth By Sleep Ultimania 2010
it's explained in the bbs game itself
There wasnt two time where sora helped ventus with his heart problem? Thus the first one when there was the cutscene of ventus and master xehanort in Destiny Islands would be the first one (ventus becomes a somenody in a way and starts to train under xehanort). And the second time was in bbs ending.
@@deadmokes540 first time was during or close to Sora’s birth, where his heart guided Ventus’ heart back to his body, second time when his heart was broken, Sora took his fractured heart inside of him
So when Sora’s heart helped return Ventus’ back to him was when Vanitas gained the similar facial features of Sora (due to the bond Ventus and Vanitas shared)
this actually helps a little
Thank u
Imagine your friend explains the Dark Seeker Saga and you finally make sense of it and think it’s finally over. Then you find out about the Lost Masters Arc
Everyone knows that young kids are always filling the hearts of wayward visitors to their island.
"Wait who is Xehenort?" "We are definitely not getting into that." Had me dying.
The correct question is "who *are* Xehenort"
@@zexa252 no the correct question is "WHY IS Xehenort" but Dark Road didn't answer that so.....
@@Brand0nGuinnnah the real question is WHAT IS A XEHANORT ???
But noone asks "How is Xehenort" :(
@@Brand0nGuinn if counts the time travels from KH3, you also could ask WHEN IS XEHANORT?
Few weeks ago I watched a recap of KH PLOT, and after this short I am like "I understand, but also, wtf?"
Yes
If you think that's bad try listening to the entire zero escape games, 999 zero escape and virtues last reward I think. It's wild.
Honestly...same. I love watching lore videos but KH just leaves me confused.
@@sincerelynotme3522 it makes sense if you ignore stuff like the lore 😂😂😂😂
Well, a kh plot video is like 15 games summarized 😅 its a lot easier to understand if you play the games, but its a spaghetti family tree 😂
I can watch a 6-hour video explaining Kingdom hearts and I still be confused
Thats the beauty of it. Its the most convoluted story of all time with cute little Disney cameos.
even when you play entire series and watch explanation videos about KH you still got confused (like me hahaha)
I was confused the day I’ve seen that the dlc of Kingdom Hearts 3 IS the REAL ENDING !! But at the same time it’s erased the ending of the real game so retcon it in order to give the full explanation !
So when you start it you think it’s a sequel but in fact nope it’s just the end again but harder and tell differently
It’s so weird
Ah, so you want to short explanation.
Even the people explaining it are also confused. Lmaoo
This is the best non 6 hour explanation of kingdom hearts I’ve seen
😂😂😂
you know things are wrong when this is perfectally understandable.
As an Kingdom Hearts expert, I say that he is totally right on everything. We never focus on... EVERYTHING JUST LIVE IT
My understanding was vanitas got his face later as the connection between Ventus and Sora grew stronger and originally only had the helmet
@@tod557You are correct so the video creator got it wrong. Vanitas with mask only is created when they split and Ventus was Shell like as heart was weak being fractured then ventus linked hearts with sora and could use a keyblade so Xehonart dump him with Eraqus leading to KHBBS. This link with soras heart link leads to vanitas sharing this connection but at this time sora is still a kid so vanitas wouldn't look like sora as a child but an older version closer to Ventus age. So Vanitas looked like Sora we know ironically before Sora from KH before Sora actually does since BBS is 10 years prior to KH as chronologically the first game
Is this like fusion. Then separating then getting cloned.
@@alex96super lol idk man i chalked it up to spiritual brothers lol
Wow here I thought assassins creed was complicated explaining it to my friend 😭
"Oh she's also a Sora" threw me for a loop 😂😂😂
Well she's Sora, Kairi, Namine and......yeah I am not talking about this
@@msakiblab we never talk about that.
Do we talk about Xion now?
@@jaketri3 You can....I rather not....because I played the game she was in....and I still feel sad about her.
Clarification question: isn't she Sora's memories of kairi extracted from roxas stuffed in a replica?
The amount of times I’d use “yes but actually no” when explaining the entirety of kingdom hearts to someone who’s never played it would be wild lol
The Sora verse... The Council of Sora.. Every character in the game: It's Me Sora!
I love how all of us are collectively are like “Don’t worry about that” 🤣
Before Sora filled the gaps in Vens heart, I think Vanitas either didn't have a face under the helmet or looked more like Ven. Afterwards, since Vanitas IS the missing part of Vens heart, when that was filled by someone else he took on an appearance similar to them, in this case Sora.
That's my theory at least.
Pretty sure that's the answer. Don't know if that was explicitly said in the reports or somewhere else though
Explaining the last part: (spoilers) vanitas is 1 of 13 pure darknesses from ancient times that merged with Ven hundreds of years ago when he was tricked by vanitas in thinking he was picked to being a leader. He merged with it bc you can only kill a pure darkness if it has a body to kill it in! Ven and others took a portal to the future and landed merged with vanitas untill he was extracted by X
@@Search-Co_olImagination Which game explains that? (I havent played any of the mobile ones, so i'm guessing one of those)
HOLY CRAP I just found this short and was going to almost the exact same comment lol
my head cannon is that when ven was left on destiny island and the newborn Sora's heart helped repair Ven's broken heart, vanitas took on the appearance of an older Sora cause that took the place of the missing part in Ven's heart (Vanitas)
@koheikyouji it's the mobile game yeah. Ventus was a wielder before the war, and during. That's where he showed up from at the beginning of bbs
Manga explains why vanitas looks like sora, he was faceless until the link was formed.
Edit: This is probably my most controversial comment just for stating something that happened
Makes sense I mean hen never took off his mask before the connection between sora and ven.
I mean, vanitas explains it in kh3 but very vaguely.
@@TTN2509yeah but nobody liked Frozen 3...i mean KH3
Nah. I don't buy it. Thats just bs.
Roxas and Soras hearts first link was when sora was a newborn.
BBS first minutes says it literally.
So the true reason is that soras newborn heart was influenced by Ventus fractured heart.
This influence is what affected Soras appearance.
Thats why Vanitas says that sora was the piece ventus needed to be whole again.
It’s honestly my favorite part of kh putting all the story lines together
Vanitas didn't actually look like Sora until after Sora and Ventus' hearts became connected
This! He was basically faceless until Ventus' heart connected to Soras
Yeah Kingdom Hearts lore is only convoluted for the first few minutes of thinking about it, afterwards things just start making sense.
@@alexgomez594*sigh* thank god
@@aklokoth I think the issue is a lot of the people saying it's convoluted are too young to remember KH and KH 2.
@@roycehuepers4325 that’s like complaining that you don’t understand whats happening in LoTR Return of the King because you never watched Fellowship or Two Towers
Carnitas didn’t have a face until Ventus’s heart was mended by Sora who took up residence in Ventus’s broken heart before being born.
People: Fnaf lore is too confusing!
Me: May I introduce you to kingdom hearts?
Same but also Assassin's creed and Metal Gear
Kingdom hearts not as confusing in my opinion I understood a lot of it and every character is linked because of heart links and its a big part of kingdom hearts as a whole. when hearts link they can become more powerful than the darkness. 7 seekers of light /people who share heart links and 13 seekers of darkness / people who didn't link or did and shattered themselves on purpose for a darker goal.
KH fans overcomplicate the lore
Yeah theres a lot to take in, but the lore is puddle deep lol
Play the games in release order, and simply pay attention, and thats good enough
Because FNAF lore is really confusing because you will always be put in the dilemma of which of this 2 realities is the real one,what is real what is not,do some of the FNAF game really exists,do some characters really exist it's just confusing
It’s not confusing just way to much of Same/Same when it comes to the events and characters. The story is very shallow and easy to interpret.
This is why I call Kingdom Hearts a rabbit hole, it just goes deeper and deeper with so much complicated lore 😂
except most of it isn't needed to understand the plot.
People get so fussy over the extra details when the stuff needed to follow the story can be explained in 30 minutes or less.
like sure you could explain everything down to the difference between Xehanort created heartless and pureblood heartless but that's just background info.
KH isn't really that complicated it's just built up a lot of side lore over the years.
@@metazoxan2you’re probably saying that because you’ve read the comics, did research etc when us regular gamers just wanna play a fun game that we can understand idont get the point of these stupid plot twists that don’t even shock me they just make me double confused now. Make the game easy to understand like Mario or something 🙄
@@blogorab7649
Incorrect. I know people that got into KH much later and the ONLY thing I had to explain to him to understand the main story was what happened in the games he had no interest in playing and even that was just a summary.
Kingdom Hearts are games you can just have fun with and understand if you aren't intentionally tyring to confuse yourself.
The details are spread out and a lot of lore requires you to do side stuff to learn. But again a lot of that isn't needed to understand the main plot.
Again a good example is Xehanort heartless vs pureblood heartless. The fact is heartless with the red heart crest are ones created by Xehanort. Ones without a crest are naturally born. But at no point do you NEED to know this.
Again the lore isn't complicated it's just a lot of extra details are spread out.
let me put it this way. if ONLY KH1,KH2, chain of memories, Birth by sleep existed then the only plot points you'd have to remove from KH3 to be able to follow it is the existence of Xion and what happened to Sora at the end of Dream Drop distance.
that's only 4 games you actually need to follow the main story and aside from reading the ansem reports you don't need to go lore hunting within them.
But hey ... how about this. What do you NOT understand about the MAIN story of Kingdom Hearts? I'll answer a few questions and point out which of the 4 games explained them. Again keep in mind I'm just talking the main story not every minor detail about every backstory in the fairly large cast of characters.
@blogorab7649 literally just play the fucking games. In release order. That's it
@@MegaPokefan97 I have to work buddy that’s my point I need this story told in fewer games and words nobody’s gotta lifetime to understand anime
Ah, man. I miss KH2. Back when things were simple. When it was just Sora and his Nobody Roxas. When it was just Xehanort and his Heartless Ansem and Nobody Xemnas. When I could still keep track of the damn characters.
Nah, KH2 already confusing
Ansem, xemnas, the real ansem, then we got a hint about xehanort.
@sobeksuwek Agree KH2 was when the game and story were at its best. However, the First KH game had a certain charm and was more Simple and Clean in terms of story.
@@sobeksuwekmy condolences for you and your future iq test
@@xxstexx7450 I mean its easy to understand if you play it, but explaining it still a bit complicated
@@sobeksuwek No, that part was simple! Xeanhort essentially stole Ansem's identity and the turned himself into a heartless and a nobody who, to keep the sharade up, based their names off ansem
"we're DEFINITELY not gonna focus on that right now" LMFAOOOOO
"IM SORA YOURE SORA WE'RE ALL SORA, IS THERE ANY MORE SORA I NEED TO KNOW ABOUT?!"
Vanitas didn't have a face until Sora fixed Ventus's fractured heart.
In the cutscene when vanitas is freed he has his mask on I think before he didn’t have a face but after Ventus and sora combined hearts his face came to mirror sora’s (of course at ventus’ age) also remember if vanitas were to take over ven’s body his face would become ven’s or ya know they’d just look like ventus because their the same person
It is true. This is from the bbs light novels to be exact if I remember right
Now I'm just imagining Vanitas with four year old Sora's face, but still around Ven's height.
We will not focus of why Vanitas as the same voice as old Sora even just after his creation right ?
@@mimiquoi7380 That’s just coincidence. The important part is the face
No, ventus and Vanitas are not the same person, it was reveal that Vanitas is actually one of the darknesses hundred's of years ago, Vanitas enter Ventus body to control him and kill strelixia who we learn is Marluxia's sister. Ventus then trapps Vanitas inside him making it impossible for him to escape, the reason Vanitas looks like Sora is because of Ventus heart being broken in the begining of Bbs, the longer the darknesses stay inside a heart the more they become influence by the person. Ventus actually hated himself, his own weakness and when they were split, Vanitas took Ventus darkness with him, so a fraction of his heart, when Sora made contact with them he gave Vanitas a form because of the link he created by interacting with Ventus heart since there was already a connection between Vanitas and Ventus. Also when Vanitas was first form after being forced out of Ventus he didn't really have a face it was more a dark mob with red bitty eyes, it wasn't until Sora makes contct with them that Vanitas gains a face. Originally Vanitas didn't have a physical form as the darknesses don't have physical forms.
Him explaining made me wanna breathe for him that was so much information in one breath!
Vanitas looks like sora because sora and ventus linked their hearts before Vanitas came into existence and that is why ventus heart traveled to sora once he sacrificed himself as they already had a connection
Kingdom Hearts, everyone is Sora and everyone else is Xehanort
Oh yeah she also Sora kills me
Right 😂I thought that was Karis nobody.
@kisukeurahara189 Well, yes... but actually yes.
@@kisukeurahara189I thought Namine was Kairi’s nobody?
@Blaze-cr2iu yea, im pretty sure xion was created by the memories of sora bc of when namine was manipulating and taking soras memories and thats why she had to die because sora needed all of his memories back and it also explains why she could use his keyblade. Sorta.
@@tom_878 I have always adored and loved Kingdom Hearts, but good God can it's lore be confusing to say the least.
With how convoluted the story is I’ve always been so surprised at how well KHs has done for itself even with making their audience wait for the KH3
Yeah bro kh3 took like what 7 years ?
Took WAY more than 7 years after KH2@@zachtheripper7382
Waiting on KH4 now lol
I still really love the xehanort part 😂😂 Oh we're definitely not gonna focus on that right now 😂😂
That’s gonna be a 2 hr deep dive vid just to explain who all the forms of Xehanort are trust me I’ve watched it😂
@@reallyhimongod Oh, I've watched hours and hours of lore and theory vids, I know!! 😂 It just makes it funnier when you know more.
I love how accurate this is
Vanitas was faceless until Ventus connected with Sora.
It’s really pretty simple (and clean), actually.
😂😂😂
Byeeeee lmao
How do we explain Kingdom Hearts? It's actually surprisingly simple.
Ooooo hoooe hoooe hoooe I see what you did there 😂✅
Ventus heart was looking for "sanctuary"
Vanitas didnt have a form within the suit until after Ventus joined Sora. Also Xion was a puppet sapping Roxas of Sora's memories to prevent sora from being woken up in Castle Oblivion
Xion is the physical manifestation of sora memories particularly of kairi
I wonder why they didn’t have Hayden voice Xion. It would have made way more sense.
Friend: Who’s xehanort
Mc: We’re definitely not focusing on him
Me with my kingdom heart string board behind me: good choice
For real 😅
If they are not sora they are a xehanort if they are not xehanort they are not important unless they are a Disney character already
Trying to explain kingdom hearts to people feels like having a stroke so I can only imagine what it sounds like to someone who’s never interacted with it
Vanitas did not have a face when he was first created after Xehanort extracted the darkness from Ventus heart. It wasn't until later his face took the form or shape of Sora. This was explained in the kingdom hearts BBS guide. Just in case if you all were wondering.
Xion is made from Sora’s memory of kairi. Xion is basically the tenten of KH, but in this case, we actually remember Xion.
That name sounds familiar. Who's tenten
@@TahniZCat2A girl from Naruto
@@TahniZCat2the ninja tool girl in Naruto who was in a team with Neji and Choji iirc
@@HazeEmryNeji and Lee. Choji was on Ino and Shikamaru's team
@@Gordan1Freeman3 ah yes. It's been years
These videos are the best everytime one pops up I'm watching
Explaining kingdoms' hearts is like trying to take a test to build a functional rocket to another galaxy
Well Vanitas didn't have a face until Sora and Ventus were linked
I felt like a genius when I figured out that xeahnort’s unscrambled name was no heart
This was literally me everytime😂whenever I’d show my sister a funny kh cutscene, I’d then have to pause a minute in to loredump so she stops asking why the whiney hippie with the mullet kept calling sora “roxas” over and over
Whiney Hippie 😂 poor Demyx, very true tho
“We’re definitely not gonna talk about that right now”😂IYKYK
It's because sora filled what Ven was missing his darkness so sora grew up to look that was to match his role it's the same reason who xhanort terra ends up looking looks like xhanort as he gets older the container changes to match it's contents
Me: Technically Xion's a Kairi AND a Sora
My friend: I need an aspirin.
And then Sora found out that his keyblade was always meant to operate the most dangerous weapon, Metal Gear.
the fact i understand this completely is terrifying
Actually...clears throat lol. The connection ventus had with sora was at soras birth or around it. Sora help fill his heart when xehanort came to dispose of a comatose ven on destiny Islands. Before this vanitas was formless in his helmet. It was until this moment that he probably took soras form, and this is also shortly before xehanort decided to leave ven with eraqus which was some years before sora was seen as a child in game.
My brother would literally explain to me the whole basis of the game and broke it down to little fragments and I still don't understand. But this skit brought me nostalgic joy from when me and my brother were kids and he'd explain that to me every single time I'd see him play it to the point he play it in secrecy so I'd stop asking him
It's really not that hard to understand
@@xblade149Don't lie to yourself. To everyone else this is way to complicated
@@zenoblues7787 only if you don't play the games and the only contact you have with the story is through joke videos. If you play and bother to read the secret reports, there is no major confusion.
@@zenoblues7787yeah cause they are dumb as fuck 😂
sora is just a title. his actual real name is "the friends we made along the way"
Props to you for fitting all that into a shorts video. I watched a 43 minute long video to understand all that😭
Technically, it’s theorized that Vanitas didn’t have a face at the beginning of BBS
"we're not gonna focus on that now". 😂
Xion is the Sora at home.
Vanitas was created before they were linked but nothings to say he looked like that before hand either, as his face wasn't revealed until after.
People new to KH: "So which one is Sora?"
KH creator: "Yes"
Sora be making his own damn spiderverse!
As an avid player and fan of the Kingdom Hearts series I fucking love this video and how truthful it is
365.5 days is underrated AF.
Definitely my second favorite after the original.
I always understood it as, venitas didn't have a face until ventus heart connected with sora. Which then slowly gave venitas a face
If your friend asks you to help them kill a couple of hours you can always explain the kingdom hearts lore
the short didn't do it so I will
WTF?
The worst part is that it isn't even the most complicated thing about the main character.
Nah you see Xion is Sora and Kairi same time and for that explanation you need to go back to KH 1 KH Card game and KH 300 days and after that is irrelevant cause she receives the same as Roxas treatment in KH3 but same time is not our Xion but same time is Xion.
Got that? Cause that one is a simple explanation now we move to Namine and hold on to your brain cause this one doesn't make sense.
Isn’t Xion just a puppet with memories of Sora and was made to take power away from Roxas and so Sora doesn’t wake up
Is not just memories of sora, they are all of his actual memories, since he was slowly losing them during the castle adventure they were being put on her, sora takes a year to wake up because his memories are being reconstructed from 0, which means he never got his original memories back but has a duplicate of them
@@Shadowkiller-dq2ju Yes but Xion was made with some memory part of Kairi or cause Sora had/sharing Kairi heart something like that, point is your correct but we also gotta remember why xion looks like Kairi that's cause again Sora and Kairi bond,share heart,memories or something what's that something? I'm betting on the heart sharing that happen in KH 1 when Sora became a shadow or is memories of Kairi? Don't know really.
Don't forget that xion was formed by Sora's memories of kairi in roxas's mind
Grown adults scratching their head trying to figure out KH lore is always so funny to me. I understood everything during my first playthrough when I was 10.
Next thing you know you hear Goofy turn into Bane from batman. "You merely adopted the darkness"
You know i always thought of vanitas as faceless only getting his face after ven and soras bearts merge
bruh didnt even go into how vanitas is a primordial ancient darkness hiding in the heart of the time traveling vantus
Vanitas actually explains why he looks like Sora in KH3. I forget the exact wording, though.
More specifically, she’s what kept Sora’s memories from Roxas so he could be Xehanort’s pawn
Throwback to me at 12 trying to explain to everyone I knew what kingdom hearts was
The novelization of Birth By Sleep reveals that Vanitas was born without a face and only begun to look like Sora AFTER Sora's newborn heart connected with Ventus.
I will never understand why Square thought a lore this convoluted was the right way to go for their Disney collaboration...
The savest bet when seeing a humanoid character in kingdom hearts game is to assume they are either Sora, Xenayord or Riku
the whole series of KH is summed up by one phrase:
"Ok I believe you"
I’m glad I’m not the only
One who has trouble explaining this convoluted lovingly adorkable series ❤😂
For le there are only 2 options in the Vanitas/Sora looking alike situation.
#1 As Sora grew older, he began to look more like Vanitas due to the link he shares with Ventus. A kind of, becoming what they need, situation where Sora reflection of what Ventus lost and still needs.
#2 Vanitas face is an omen from the future. Maybe in the sense that another who shares his face will come about that'll link his heart with Ventus and be at the center of events leading into the future KH stories. Maybe even an example of time not exactly being linear in the KH universe given the return of so many characters in KH3.
I think I read somewhere that before Ventus and Sora linked Vanitas either looked more like Ventus or didn’t have much of a face.
When he said we're definitely not focusing on Xehanort, I felt that in my soul.
Vanitas just didn't have a face under the helmet until that connection was made
I'm Squidward. He's Squidward... We're all Squidward. 🦑
One way i can go around the mystery of Vanitas's face upon creation, I'd be thinking he was faceless, just a shaped black head with yellow/red pupils and maybe a mouth, and the helmet helped hiding this. Then after Ventus makes the link with Sora's heart, we get the iconic face of Vanitas.
Kingdom Hearts: Everyone is Sora. Everyone else is Xehanort.
As soon as I saw the big bad bald man I was like your gonna need a lot longer then 60 seconds
Tyring to explain the Sortas and the Nort Court is a nightmare despite it being relatively straightforward once you get it.
The story was so simple in KH1, then boom KH2.
*Sings "Simple and Clean" to himself to drown out all the plot holes*