Man Up: Part 2 - How do men battle against depression & suicidal thoughts? | BBC Sport
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- With one man attempting to take their own life every two minutes in the UK, suicide isn't as rare as we may think.
BBC Sport gathers together five young men for a series of honest conversations about what it's like to be a man in 2019, and the impact that can have on their mental health.
Journalist Ben Zand, sprinter James Ellington, footballers David Cox and Olu Maintain and reality TV star Josh Denzel talk about their own experiences and struggles in three films made for Mental Health Awareness Week in the UK.
Episode two sees them honestly and openly discuss their experiences and personal battles with depression and suicidal thoughts.
If you, or someone you know, has been affected by a mental health issue, help and support is available: www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/arti...
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If you, or someone you know, have been affected by mental health issues, help and support is available: www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/1NGvFrTqWChr03LrYlw2Hkk/information-and-support-mental-health
The worst part of my depression is that I know why I am depressed but I can't do anything to change it, it's horrible
Don't let your brain win you have controlle of it its your brain
I’m in the exact boat
I’m depressed because I’m in debt.
Im with you on how you feel
The truth is that we will bear that scar forever until our end of time.
Keep these coming , let’s get men’s mental health into people’s everyday conversations
why? no one's listening.
how bout no bc niggas dont listen how we men feel. better off to keep it.
When you wake up in the morning and are not greeted with excitement for the day. That’s when you know your depressed.
As a man it’s difficult to open up to other people.
Men in the U.K. suffer in silence and loneliness more often than people think. Isolation becomes common and suicidal thoughts internally destroy us.
Sleep was the only time I felt at peace, suicide felt like an option.
Same here
To Live is an Act of Courage
“I saw not my own courage in dying, but his courage broken by the loss of me. So I said to myself, ‘You must live’. Sometimes even to live is an act of courage” Seneca (4BC-65AD)
Even then i cannot feel at peace sometimes. I wake up in the night, feeling scared and shit. idk why
But when you can’t sleep properly and only get 2 or 3 hours a night then you can’t even escape through sleep and even though you feel desperately tired you are then awake all day
Serious depression is not just having a bad day. It’s truly terrifying, you enjoy nothing, lose your appetite, wake at 3 am and then awake for the rest of the day. Severe depression is a nightmare that you can’t snap out of, no one would ever say man up if they’d gone through the worst of depression. It takes peoples lives it’s that unbearable
Part of manning up is being brave enough to talk about these issues. Great job lads, you're helping others! 😊
i bottle up my emotions and i pretend im happy and content with my life. i even go as far to joke about just to make it less obvious but im starting to crack
Sory bro
@Bilbo_Swagginz this period of pandemic, when people lost their jobs and their own ways to escape and hide in crowd. we just ask for too much from these people. men are rocks and rocks don't cry but what they forget is rocks do break.
living up to the expectations was more important than breathing for ourself.
To Live is an Act of Courage
“I saw not my own courage in dying, but his courage broken by the loss of me. So I said to myself, ‘You must live’. Sometimes even to live is an act of courage” Seneca (4BC-65AD)
Me too, it feels like I am putting up maximum effort just to continue the lie. Like any day my mind could just shatter. I keep randomly crying
I just hold my feelings within until it starts to Crack again and if I show my feelings or emotions to others ill just be labeled as a weak man...
Depression is like a hostage situation, it invades your mind and takes you as a hostage until you develop Stockoholm syndrome. Home becomes a prison, you become a prisoner. You can see there's a door to physically escape out of, but your mind convinces you there is no door and there is no escape. Soon you don't even want to, you're in a way relieved the door isn't there.
Same goes for your phone, you become terrified of your phone. Everytime the phone rings, beeps or alerts this unimaginable anxiety creeps in, so you adapt and put in on mute. Every time you check your phone you're nervous, you just wish there's no calls or messages from your family and friends, and what a relief when there's not. But when there is, the guilt creeps in and makes you even more miserable. You beat yourself down for being such a selfish asshole. You don't want to worry your loved ones so you can't tell how brutally lonely and depressed you are, and on the otherhand you're just dead tired of pretending you're all right, so either way you're fucked.
This mindset invades every aspect of your so called life; either way you're fucked, nothing matters. You don't matter. It would be better for everyone if you could just cease existing. You don't want to die per se, but you don't want to live either. So either way you're fucked.
This is my depression at it's ugliest; either way I'm fucked. It gets to a point where I see no options except for opting for nothing. It's a sad, lonely and dark option but I'm trying my best to rehabilitate myself. It's a long and rocky road, but I know I'm not alone.
PS. Please share your thoughts and emotions, even just typing it out on YT comment section like this will 100% make you feel less like shit for a moment when compared to just keeping it all inside your dome.
Peace & Love my Brothers! ✌️
Every point literally resonates with me and what I am going through rn. The phone part hit me so hard, that sense of relief when no one has message you yet that overwhelming sense of guilt too. Honestly, I could’ve written this piece myself. Thanks for sharing, it makes me feel less lonely in a way. Sending you a big hug. Hang in there 🙏🏻
Its scary how accurate you wrote this, even the part with the phone, that's literally me. I also have a stuttering problem and this is frustrating me 2x. Ive felt like that for years. Idk how much longer I can go on. I feel so lost in life and I'm just 22 years old.
thank you for this. just being able to connect with someone, even though i don't know you, means a lot right now. much love 🙏
@@kristiyangrigorov5232 i don't have a stutter but i have epilepsy and it also increases my depression. it's already hard enough with depression, but when there's other things on top of it, it's even worse. i recently turned 21 and i also feel lost. all we can do is try to find the bright things in life, even if it's just the fact that the sun is out today. idk im just kind of giving you some of what i try to do when im struggling day to day. keep going man just know that there's people you don't even know that are rooting for you even if you aren't for yourself.
Breaking down of the family structure and a lot of me losing the sense of responsibility for the past 30 years has put men in this place that we are now .
It seems to be more than just that. People are more alone nowadays than 30 years ago, cause of technology. For me Loneliness is the big factor
so responsiblity can cause to feel happy/prideful
I cannot thank you enough for creating this kind of content that we all desperately need to hear and can sadly all relate to.
Cheers to you guys, this means a lot.
These guys just explained every word I couldn’t express
Psilocybin containing mushroom saved my life. it drastically reduced my benzodiazepine withdrawal allowing me to quite illicit pill addiction after three years of heavy daily use before it would had became medically dangerous to quit. it has also helped me to survive depression
Psychedelic’s definitely have potential to deal with mental health symptoms like anxiety and depression, I would like to try them again again but it’s just so hard to source out of there.
I was having this constant, unbearable anxiety because of university stress. Not until I came across dr.chris356, a very intelligent mycologist who sold DMT for me.He saved my life honestly
@@Elizabeth-yx2tiI'm feeling the same way too. I put too much on my plate and it definitely affects my stress and anxiety level. I am so glad to be part of this community.
@@Elizabeth-yx2tiwow..you know him too? dr.chris is the best, he's been my go to for anything psychedelics.
@@Elizabeth-yx2tiIs he on instagram?
I believe it gets better when you keep trying to better your own situation no matter how many times you have tried. The fact that you came to this video means something.
You get to a point where you don't care if it gets better or not.
Isn't that the age old delima with the human mind. I see where you are coming from even though I'm on the outside looking in. But you gotta press on! I know I sound like a clueless optimist unaware of the odds stacked against me. But at least "they" cant take that from me.
@@javonmitchell5309 You can keep on fighting if you want, more power to you but I'm just done.
As a man i dont open up anymore cus no one really cares. The ones who i thought were listning were simply mocking behind my back
Same
Opening up to anyone is a bad idea as a man because people could use your vulnerabilities against you
opening up feels like I am just weak, it feel really strong not opening up but to analyze feeling inside me and fix it
Mens Mental Health Matters. Thank you guys for doing this. Everyday I'm fighting personal demons in my head that keep trying to break me but I'm hanging in there and seeking help.
This is my cure for depression: an 8 ball of coke, alcohol of your choice, some pot, and some painkillers.
ABSOLUTELY AMAZING PIECE OF CONTENT BY BBC ❤ More of this please.
#MensRightsMatter 👍
The problem about opening up is that you need the right people to open up to, if you don’t have that, good luck. My depression made me realise that I have bad friends, I have no one to really talk to so I just deal with it
"Nothing I can do makes me feel good." ye that one resonates with me
Men are affected much longer/harder in breakup/divorce than women. This needs to be brought to the mainstream.
Lol yea right
@@pinkgal206 it's true. Women have more options then men when it comes to getting another partner. This is why women get over breaks up easily then men.
True I still feel worthless even after my divorce
@@ultrainferno. also, women are far more likely to initiate breakups and divorces
And do what 🙄
Really powerful film - thanks to all involved. Valuable work :)
Trust me, and this is coming from experience, people generally speaking (unless they've been through it - but even then sometimes) do not care about mental health. Especially, when it comes to men's mental health. I think a lot of people like to look like they care (virtue signalling), but when it comes down to real life lows and being in a bad place, people don't care. This is coming from someone that has been at a very low point. EXTREMELY few people actually cared.
I don’t think titling this man up really catches the eye of someone really suicidal
Thank you so much for sharing your story s to the Men on this video
Well done to you all
You are what I call real Men
I have a Son who is almost 30 years of age
I keep telling him to always talk about his feelings
Again thank you so much for sharing your story's on here
Hey Mary I'm 27 and I never really felt depressed or ugly I think it's not every guy that feels like that hey Mary if you ask your son now and again if he's okay it will help him feel better as you show you care about his moods xxx
I am almost 30, I wish I could talk to my Dad about these things. I am depressed and I often have bad thoughts. I randomly start crying. But I am supposed to pretend nothing is wrong.
I absolutely adore this content. You guys put a lot into context for me. I would never leave my family behind but honestly, my thhoughts get the better of me all the time. I've got so much to be grateful for, it's like imposter syndrome where I don't feel like I should be happy when I feel like I can. Thank you for this context...
I don't ask for help because I don't trust that the people around me will react appropriately, with the appropriate seriousness. Like either they will shrug it off and say get over it, or wildly over-react and get me put in a straight jacket.
I just don't really value my life very much. And all this grinding feels so pointless, I do it as an act. My whole life of enthusiasm, curiosity and human interaction is an act, I am pretending to care about my life because the alternative is shooting myself.
You've got to be careful with your confidantes. The people around you aren't necessarily the best ones to confide in; you'll probably have to look further afield.
You are me
than don't pretend and fix that feeling happening because of brain
You have to literally go through life not wanting to be here
Well done lads bet that was hard to talk about I can relate!
I have depression trust me all this is exactly true and I don't wish no one depression it sucks ass and it's hard to man up it's not that easy that's what people don't know but I know God is going to help us defeat depression 🙏
No imaginary friend is going to help.
Seeing this has been verry helpful.
I struggle with waves of depression and hearing them share similar feelings is shocking. I know im not alone but have always felt lonely and neglected. I’ve cried alone and felt like a bitch because of society’s portrayal of masculinity is to be tough and resilient. I am human and broken. Much love to you all going through shit man dont give because I still haven’t.
I was in greater Manchester for a year, I was able to feel that down sensation, plus everything seems quite gray
fantastic video!
I thought my depression had gone away years ago. I do think it subsided for a time as i began to better my life. Started opening up more and making some friends to talk to. And exercise became my new stress reliever, as well as a way to improve my self image. Now my self image issues don't come from my physical appearance, but by the way I view myself as a man. I've been working towards my dream job of being a pararescueman for a couple years now and have made crazy progress towards getting in shape for it, but that progress has drastically slowed. I hate myself for my lack of effort, time management, discipline. I'm constantly tired even on days where i havent done much at all. I'm no longer excited to train, all I focus on is where I'm lacking and where I could have been had I sticked to a plan more. It's horrible because I know ways I could fix the problem, but I don't have any drive to do so anymore. Just negative thoughts. The kind of person I've been trying to be is the complete opposite of how I feel now. At least I have something to work towards
A MAN’S SYMBOL IS A SHIELD AND SPEAR ♂
YOU ARE A WARRIOR ♂
AND A HUNTER ♂
I get that this message is meant to be empowering, but this is a big part of the problem.
Men are expected to be strong, and emotional weakness is not something that fits that expectation. For that reason a lot of men refuse to accept negative emotions and bottle it up until they reach a breaking point. Lots of guys who do express this weakness are ostracized by society as a whole on account of needing to meet that expectation.
To Live is an Act of Courage
“I saw not my own courage in dying, but his courage broken by the loss of me. So I said to myself, ‘You must live’. Sometimes even to live is an act of courage” Seneca (4BC-65AD)
WindWankers I would argue that stoicism and talking about philisophy can really help somebody fight off depression. Not giving yourself an excuse to quit is powerful. And realising that depression is not unique but so unbelievably common that goes back as far as humans first began to walk this earth. Suffering and hardship is not new, its good to remember that literally every single one of us is in the same boat here. Living is an Act of Courage, it takes balls to live and face adversity.
Opening your figurative heart requires courage to deal with personal grief on your own such as death of a loved dad in my case .
Indifference means other people do not care . Caring people can make a difference.
I'm struggling with my mental health and I have been feeling depressed and anxiety and suicidal thoughts
MEN JUST DO NOT SPEAK..IT STARTS VERY EARLY and only gets worse SAD
men just wants just solution but we man know just speaking will not cure it, so we dont speak about it
it get sad but when we get tired of depression we try to fix out brain
I have anxiety attacks, I’m scared that I’ll get sick physically like from my heart or something. And I’m so fucken depressed I feel like such a pathetic piece of shit I’m fucken weak and I can’t pick myself up. And it fucken sucks
Here's me thinking the BBC is waste of money fair play important video well done.
the legs still hurts so the pain reminds me everyday the things i have done. the guilt or anything doesnt help to stop it there. something still persist in mind.
well if we know what causing it and according to world ( the WORLD) we doesnt work on it and its our fault. I did think about it more than one time.
i dont know the ( living up to the expectation will ever satisfy people).
You really get alvaro Morata vibes from the title!
They don't. That's the point.
2019: man up
2020: covid 19 lockdown
It would be nice to put an average Joe in there too, because a lot of us man are average Joes.
If Ann is suffering people tell u man up.. . I think this is bullshitting coz I blv we all need someone who we can lean on
For those that dont already know and what to better understand the word 'depression' let me explain... the clue to understanding is in the word itself!
depression..
DE' reverse of DO like a pressed button in state of harmony where all flows smoothly and consistantly only where DE' means to release said pressed button blocking it's flow
PRESS' reverse of DE' where press is to have consistant flow/calm where DE' means to prevent that state of flow/calm
ION' is (lifes mission) where we ALL choose our own path in like and make it our mission to succeed in consistantly and peacefully having that calm flow be it as parents/jobs/finances/socializing/ etc etc the point is depressionis like a break in our flow like a stream of water that becomes blocked by a few rocks, remove those rocks/the brake and the stream (our mission will flow smoothly once again! depression is only an obsticle within out way of life and ALL OBSTICLES CAN BE OVERCOME no matter how big or small :)
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i just think they were payed to say this so us average dudes would feel better cause even celebrities are depressed
I appreciate this content but my only issue with set up of men..These men are considered “successful” so it’s ok for them to speak up about their depression etc..for the “average joe” when you speak about depression you’re seen as lazy or making excuses etc…this is my only issue with this kind of panel setup…90 plus percent of men are average joes
“Successful” people are often told the opposite: that they should be happy to be as successful as they are (fame, nice car, etc.) or else they are just whiny and ungrateful. Really, no matter who you are, people make excuses as to not help those who are suffering.
its also fun to be average 🤣
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So you focus on rich footballers who have everything! How can they be fuckin depressed… doesn’t really do it for most of us men struggling in a life in a 8-5 job etc …
Man up?? So macho type of title. The toughest person can be the so called weak
Drink
Men just don't talk and women talk to much we need a referee !!! don't we ? my favourite is GET OVER IT
They are not depressed they just need to get laid.
That does not make most situations better many it does, not most
I wish that were true, if it was there would be a lot less depressed people.
@@TheFracturedfuture a huge number of men can't get laid these days.
@@DavidW-ng5zv I agree but getting laid doesn't automatically make me not want to kill myself or get rid of my mental illnesses.
@@TheFracturedfuture it certainly helps, though.
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To everyone who's struggling right now, please know that GOD LOVES YOU. He wants to help you and give you peace. Please surrender your burdens to Him and allow Him to move in your life.
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Man up bullshit is Soo annoying