Netflix had nothing to do with it (if spend some cash for the distribution rights), it was all from the brains of the original author Bryan Lee O'Malley and the scriptwriter Ben David Grabinski, with an assist from Edgar Wrong... I mean Wright.
Naa dude... Its just for the title😅, in the video I mentioned that the change was due to Bryan heading the creative direction.. The title sounded way catchier with Netflix in it so yh.
I saw so many people mad, went this series pretty much fixed so many issues like showing than Scott is the douchebag, fixed Ramona being the "princess" who needed to be saved and just never fixed her own issues and fixing the damage she had done to ex's. I think this series was pretty damn good because it shown Ramona as the ass she is and was during the whole comic and film. Running away from all her emotional issues and letting scott "fix them" for her. I really,really liked this Ramona at lot. The one growing and maturing is Ramona herself instead of Scott. The one fixing the issues with your ex's shouldn't be your new partner, but yourself setting things right by those people who were your partners. This is the correct way and the series does that right. Ramona issues aren't Scott to fix, but HERS. This is how you write a proper female character as the main focus of your show/movie
Very well said... I feel the series did justice to the character, Even without the context of the comic, you can be satisfied with Ramona as the Main character.
@zest2.5 At the expense of Scott! It would have been "enpowering" if both Scott and Ramona teamed up to fix her past mistakes! This just feels like another example of media forcing "girl powet" into a story at the expense of the male lead!!!;)
I think you have a very bad understanding of the comics. Ramona wasn’t a princess that needed to be saved, and Scott was never portrayed as a non-douchebag. Fighting the exes in the comic wasn’t Scott “fixing” anything for her. If you paid attention, you’d see how the exes served to show how flawed Ramona was, with how she would always be the one to leave them. And fighting them isn’t what brought Scott and Ramona closer together. What brought them closer was Scott learning more about Ramona’s flaws, and the ups and downs they had in their relationship. Fighting the exes wasn’t meant to be Scott solving her problems, because the exes weren’t her problem anymore in the first place. They were Scott’s. They wanted to kill him so Gideon could then basically control Ramona again, which he does later anyway. Gideon is the only one that Scott really saves her from, since he’s the only one who truly did some evil stuff. The other where just vehicles to showcase more of Ramona’s bad traits. By the end of the comic, both Scott and Ramona accept their flaws, and promise each other to do better, together. What is with this gross misunderstanding of the characters? Ramona being “toxic” was the damn point. It’s called character growth.
The movie is not the original version of the story. The story was graphic novels originally. And either way, neither comic Ramona or book Ramona is emo, so what are you even talking about?
I don't think she fixed it. Ramona's problem is that she has always used people without thinking about other people's feelings and for her own benefit. In the series this is like "I run away from my problems" whereas it is exactly the opposite. She also doesn't even apologize to her EX. She didn't apologize to Lucas Lee for cheating on him. Not the twins or anything. She doesn't evolve, she just says she's going to value herself more, which is exactly the problem. Not to mention that she has the same problem with Scott making him a villain and expects him to fight for her like her ex-boyfriends did. She has selfishness at the center of her actions and in the end she embraces it once and for all.
Hey Zest, black jack here. I feel the netflix adaptation sheds a better light on Ramona, while in a sense leaving scott in the mud. But i still like it though, i love Wallace in it too, love his sarcastic bit too. Congrats on 1k subs dude
No, it didn’t fix her. Why do so many people think the movie is the original story? The story is originally a graphic novel. Both Scott and Ramona were flawed people. Scott spends the whole story finding out the flaws of Ramona, and ends up facing his own flaws as well and accepting them. Ramona spends the story sort of falling back into her old habits and feeling scared of new things, which she resolves to work on getter better about with Scott by the end. The movie is not the original version of these characters. It’s a condensed version. It couldn’t do all the development they got in in the books regarding their character and relationship.
They didn’t “fix” her, she’s still a god awful person as seen in her future self. She literally tells the audience that her past self and her now self are the same. Just because she doesn’t let her past define her doesn’t mean she won’t make the same mistakes. Scott and Ramona are both terrible people who can be terrible together. It’s fated that way.
Scott's the actual douche in the comics. The guy is pretty incompetent but for some reason they toned his douchery down in the movie and now this Netflix adaptation
@@zest2.5 I def prefer Scott as a douche because the growth he goes through is more satisfying that way, that said this wasn't Scott's show so I get why that wasn't what they did
I liked the anime a bit but they should’ve named it something else. But because it is what it is, I’m gonna be making my own Scott Pilgrim animation series now haha
5:10 i don't think "believable" is the right word to use here. Ramona's established to have had little care or consideration for any of her previous romantic partners (aside from Gideon), and then for no explained reason whatsoever she's suddenly obsessed with this guy she only went on a single date with? i think they swung her character too hard in the opposite direction
The pacing was not good.... Its so slow in the beginning, it makes you want to stop the show at episode 2. Like zest said the dialogue comes off pretty slow. I know they wanted it to feel like an anime dub but, I didn't like it .
It's completely beyond me how they thought 8 episodes were enough. 8 times 20 minutes is roughly 160 minutes, that's shorter than most feature length movies nowadays. It was destined to not live up to the comics quality. Most people who love it only saw the movie which was even shorter.
@@NationalistsRuinAmerica yhh... It needed more time. Mostly with Scott. Scott needed way more work. Why is it called Scott pilgrim if there is no Scott why not call it Ramona's side story
@@zest2.5 the fact it's 2023 and we still cant get a 1:1 version of the comic in a video format is insane. So instead of doing that first and then writing their bad fan fiction in season two we again don't get the story that is the only reason for this IP existing and being successful Pure f******blue haired hubris
Fixed? They not only ruined Ramona, but all the characters. The show essentially repeats the plot of Masters of the Universe: Revelation, which was just terrible woke crap. Netflix spat on all fans of Scott's universe and it's just sad...
Even though the pacing felt off I like the outcome of “Netflix’s Scott Pilgrim Takes Off.” Everyone gets an ending of their own.
Yeah exactly... It kind of round up the whole story, and makes you feel satisfied.
Totally agree the pacing lacked...
Netflix had nothing to do with it (if spend some cash for the distribution rights), it was all from the brains of the original author Bryan Lee O'Malley and the scriptwriter Ben David Grabinski, with an assist from Edgar Wrong... I mean Wright.
And that's what people are forgetting
I’m pretty sure at least final plot twist is from Bryan himself.
It’s feel to personal to him.
Naa dude... Its just for the title😅, in the video I mentioned that the change was due to Bryan heading the creative direction.. The title sounded way catchier with Netflix in it so yh.
Of course he didn't mean it like that...
I saw so many people mad, went this series pretty much fixed so many issues like showing than Scott is the douchebag, fixed Ramona being the "princess" who needed to be saved and just never fixed her own issues and fixing the damage she had done to ex's.
I think this series was pretty damn good because it shown Ramona as the ass she is and was during the whole comic and film. Running away from all her emotional issues and letting scott "fix them" for her. I really,really liked this Ramona at lot. The one growing and maturing is Ramona herself instead of Scott. The one fixing the issues with your ex's shouldn't be your new partner, but yourself setting things right by those people who were your partners. This is the correct way and the series does that right.
Ramona issues aren't Scott to fix, but HERS. This is how you write a proper female character as the main focus of your show/movie
Very well said... I feel the series did justice to the character, Even without the context of the comic, you can be satisfied with Ramona as the Main character.
@zest2.5 At the expense of Scott! It would have been "enpowering" if both Scott and Ramona teamed up to fix her past mistakes! This just feels like another example of media forcing "girl powet" into a story at the expense of the male lead!!!;)
I think you have a very bad understanding of the comics. Ramona wasn’t a princess that needed to be saved, and Scott was never portrayed as a non-douchebag. Fighting the exes in the comic wasn’t Scott “fixing” anything for her. If you paid attention, you’d see how the exes served to show how flawed Ramona was, with how she would always be the one to leave them. And fighting them isn’t what brought Scott and Ramona closer together. What brought them closer was Scott learning more about Ramona’s flaws, and the ups and downs they had in their relationship.
Fighting the exes wasn’t meant to be Scott solving her problems, because the exes weren’t her problem anymore in the first place. They were Scott’s. They wanted to kill him so Gideon could then basically control Ramona again, which he does later anyway. Gideon is the only one that Scott really saves her from, since he’s the only one who truly did some evil stuff. The other where just vehicles to showcase more of Ramona’s bad traits. By the end of the comic, both Scott and Ramona accept their flaws, and promise each other to do better, together. What is with this gross misunderstanding of the characters? Ramona being “toxic” was the damn point. It’s called character growth.
This is the typical perspective of someone who only watched the movie and hasn't read the comic
The movie came out when emos still were a thing, so it only makes sense why the one sort of emo character was toxic
Yhhh...
The movie is not the original version of the story. The story was graphic novels originally. And either way, neither comic Ramona or book Ramona is emo, so what are you even talking about?
Wdym she's emo?
I don't think she fixed it. Ramona's problem is that she has always used people without thinking about other people's feelings and for her own benefit. In the series this is like "I run away from my problems" whereas it is exactly the opposite. She also doesn't even apologize to her EX. She didn't apologize to Lucas Lee for cheating on him. Not the twins or anything. She doesn't evolve, she just says she's going to value herself more, which is exactly the problem. Not to mention that she has the same problem with Scott making him a villain and expects him to fight for her like her ex-boyfriends did. She has selfishness at the center of her actions and in the end she embraces it once and for all.
Hey Zest, black jack here. I feel the netflix adaptation sheds a better light on Ramona, while in a sense leaving scott in the mud. But i still like it though, i love Wallace in it too, love his sarcastic bit too. Congrats on 1k subs dude
Yhh all in all a good show...
No, it didn’t fix her. Why do so many people think the movie is the original story? The story is originally a graphic novel. Both Scott and Ramona were flawed people. Scott spends the whole story finding out the flaws of Ramona, and ends up facing his own flaws as well and accepting them. Ramona spends the story sort of falling back into her old habits and feeling scared of new things, which she resolves to work on getter better about with Scott by the end.
The movie is not the original version of these characters. It’s a condensed version. It couldn’t do all the development they got in in the books regarding their character and relationship.
I know it isn't the original story. in the video I tried to compare the movie to the animated version.
They didn’t “fix” her, she’s still a god awful person as seen in her future self. She literally tells the audience that her past self and her now self are the same. Just because she doesn’t let her past define her doesn’t mean she won’t make the same mistakes.
Scott and Ramona are both terrible people who can be terrible together. It’s fated that way.
Hmm... But the whole show was about her facing her past and coming to terms with it.
Yo the audio mixing on ur vids keeps getting better, there are channels that don't pay attention to this stuff.... More power to you.
Aww dude thanks so much.... I'm still improving though.
Apparently, the algorithm says hi lol
Exactly 😂... And I'm all for it. Being trying to catch the TH-cam wave.
Scott's the actual douche in the comics. The guy is pretty incompetent but for some reason they toned his douchery down in the movie and now this Netflix adaptation
Yhh... I think everyone wants their main character to be a bit likable 😅
@@zest2.5 I def prefer Scott as a douche because the growth he goes through is more satisfying that way, that said this wasn't Scott's show so I get why that wasn't what they did
Scott was still really douchey in the film, it’s honestly aggravating
@@TheCreed1217 but at the same time it's the point
@@wariowarecomix I get what ur saying... Show his flaws so as for him to learn and mature from them.
I liked the anime a bit but they should’ve named it something else. But because it is what it is, I’m gonna be making my own Scott Pilgrim animation series now haha
5:10 i don't think "believable" is the right word to use here. Ramona's established to have had little care or consideration for any of her previous romantic partners (aside from Gideon), and then for no explained reason whatsoever she's suddenly obsessed with this guy she only went on a single date with? i think they swung her character too hard in the opposite direction
Liked that about, Ramona ^^
Scott learning from his mistakes would have been nice if we saw that and the title character was in his show more
Yeah, you're right. i think they just did the opposite of what they did in the movie. Which was okay too
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Zest! Great video!
The pacing was not good.... Its so slow in the beginning, it makes you want to stop the show at episode 2. Like zest said the dialogue comes off pretty slow. I know they wanted it to feel like an anime dub but, I didn't like it .
It's completely beyond me how they thought 8 episodes were enough. 8 times 20 minutes is roughly 160 minutes, that's shorter than most feature length movies nowadays.
It was destined to not live up to the comics quality. Most people who love it only saw the movie which was even shorter.
@@NationalistsRuinAmerica yhh... It needed more time. Mostly with Scott. Scott needed way more work. Why is it called Scott pilgrim if there is no Scott why not call it Ramona's side story
@@vtjjtrv5656bluin It's the same crap as with Indiana Jones 5, but even worse.
SUGAR YEAAAH BROSKIIII! :]
They didn't fix shit, they wrote fan fiction, she is toxic, and that's the point.
😅.. why'd u call it fan fiction?
@@zest2.5 it's the worst kinda of fan fiction.
@@zest2.5 the fact it's 2023 and we still cant get a 1:1 version of the comic in a video format is insane.
So instead of doing that first and then writing their bad fan fiction in season two we again don't get the story that is the only reason for this IP existing and being successful
Pure f******blue haired hubris
Bros yapping
@@Crypticz8he’s cooking, this shit was fan service
Fixed? They not only ruined Ramona, but all the characters. The show essentially repeats the plot of Masters of the Universe: Revelation, which was just terrible woke crap. Netflix spat on all fans of Scott's universe and it's just sad...
It tries to put a millennial story into GenZ context and it just doesn't work.
But don't say "woke crap", it makes you look like that dude who screamed "F*CKING PRONOUNS"
@@NationalistsRuinAmerica It's both trash tho lol
@@manuelk1853 what?