LEAVING Thailand permanently! WHAT went WRONG?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ธ.ค. 2023
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A subscriber of mine, Big Scott, moved to Thailand almost 2 years ago. He sold everything in the US and made this huge move. We did an interview and soon became friends. It cost him a fortune. for an abundance of reasons which he will explain he is moving back to the US. Moving around the world is not for everyone. Scott's cautionary tale will be good info for someone who is on the fence and is only hearing positive aspects about Thailand and moving abroad in general. No where is perfect.
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The problem is that wherever you go, there YOU are...
Yes love Buckaroo Bonzai!
What gets me is that they tuck tail and just return back to their old vomit that they left back home.
Exactly! Excellent book by Book by Jon Kabat-Zinn. He probably run out of $
That's a real sucker that one!
more room for us in Thailand. A LOT more room, whoops.
Not the supermodel I wanted. I am sure his girlfriend is thrilled by that comment 😂
made me laugh hes lucky he got anyone!
Imagine what she's telling her friends.
Well she will never starve in the US🤓! She can eat him for months if WW3 strikes on our soil!
@@Richard.Cabeza lmaooooo
@@pamspencer5733😂😂😂
He´s a typical kind of expat. Absolutely full of himself and smarter than everyone, yet he does every mistake, you can imagine. Strange.
Expats Ueber Alles
He is quite smart and educated, was not condescending towards people. The only person full of themselves here was you.
@@2000ViperGTSsubscribe sounds like a wokie comment that one
we call them "falang kee Nok" (foreigner bird shit....
He's a white man...that had a sorta high, income
After one year living abroad many American are the specialist how a country works. We have this kind of people in the Philippines too and they are living in their own colony in Dumaguete....
Everybody has a YT channel and try to teach others about the country.... but in the end they know nothing because they live in the expats sportbars world....
New truck, new scooter, flash house, never ever flaunt your wealth in Thailand, you attract all the wrong kind of people.
Same in the Philippines, do not show cash, you'll be a prime target, your Filipina girlfriend will set you up.
But he's leaving now, so...
@@TheUtuber999 He probably met all the wrong people so decided to leave.
It's the way if many forieners, American, Swiss, German.
@@bigtony4829 Because those are the people that take the risk or have the initiative and money to move internationally, the guy working at KFC or Wallmart will die on the shop floor as he will not have the money to retire early and move overseas.
He better not take her back to the states with him! She'll be Americanized, seek out her own kind, and divorce him after obtaining citizenship.
Up to him 😊
@robertgrays8790 - the Thai girlfriend won't last in Texas! The cultural differences and loneliness, especially homesickness will have her right back in Thailand. Scott is a pilot so he will be away from his girlfriends for days at a time. The absence can drive an American girl crazy, let alone a Thai girlfriend.
Goodluck with that story, we all know how it goes... 🤔😂😂
It happens!
Wow, you don't know Scott, never met his girlfriend and you know her better than Scott, AMAZING!
3 Bed, 3 Bath house and a new Ford Truck.
He's definitely from Texas where everything is BIG.
The point of moving to Thailand is to live minimal, not turn Thailand into Texas East.
No wonder he has to go back to work.
"How NOT to Move to Thailand--Definitely don’t do what this guy did " (New title for the video)
I kept expecting him to tell a story how he got cleaned out by this GF but I guess that's for another video.
TOTALLY. This dude made all the noob mistakes. FFS, he shipped pallets of household stuff over here!! LOL.
I do not think this guy could pass a physical examination to get a pilot’s license to fly a major airliner.
Or fit in the pilot seat.
That crossed my mind too!
I think some houses one enjoys living in , one likes the house the neighbourhood and others you don't like . Like Im living in a church somewhere quite remote in Australia . Probably the worst place Iv lived as far as places Iv owned . And can think of a couple of houses Iv had that I would have stayed there quite happily for the rest of my life . But this aint one of them lol groan
@@toneyeyemine three....lol... all texas...
That is what retirement does to you...LMAO.
The good life.
ADVICE: Don't buy property, don't buy a new truck, don't get married, don't worry about the New Tax law, becos life's too short.
- Don't buy property - I will buy because rent is just money paid for mortgage of landlord
- don't buy a new truck - Agree, it's hot, so choose location where you can just walk for 80% of your needs, ride a scooter for the 20% on bi-monthly basis.
- don't get married - Agree, no explanation needed
- don't worry about the New Tax law - worry, don't, but being informed is important
- life's too short - Agree
@@bigradwolf5001 Only rent if it's cheaper than buying.
@@nomadic-mindRight. If there is cash possibility to buy then buying becomes cheaper. The problem for non-cash buyers is interest rates are at 7.5% while capital gain in condos are 5% in Thailand (maybe higher in other specific spots like beachfront, or those next to rich Thais' residences).
- Better to rent if you want to be the owner of your property. will cause the price to rise not good for Thai people and foreigners and there will be new legislation to control
- don't get married = It's up to you and your partner. Why did you get married? For the nominee , family future, Or just have fun and hope for benefits?(Most foreigners in Thailand) That's why it's difficult for you to get a Thai citizen.
- don't buy a new truck = depends on your decision.
- don't worry about the New Tax law = If you don't have financial problems or doing something illegal. There's no need to be stressed.
@@nomadic-mindIf you plan to be here more than 10 years it's worth buying.
He seems to me the sort of person who should never move to a foreign country. Doesn't make any effort to integrate with the local community, by learning the language for example, and builds his life around the English-speaking ex-pat community. A good way to feel isolated. A good way to be despised.
Won’t work out for many. Definitely want his thing unfortunately
Yes.. notice how he said the mover didn't speak English... The mover is Thai and he's in Thailand! Duh
It’s not hard to translate few words on your phone and show it to the Thai guy.
I don't know about that. I didn't get the impression that he hated the country or the people. Just couldn't make the adjustment. When I was in the military, I met plenty of "ugly Americans". He doesn't strike me as one of them.
If they want love they should find it within their own country. You would have to folly to think you can be a local. You will all-ways be considered an outsider, there is inherently nothing wrong with that but you have to have a exit strategy.
If you want to settle in a foreign country, it might be a good idea learning the language...I mean, even as a tourist you try to pick uo a few words, but I cannot imagine living in a place permanently without learning the language.
In my opinion, I don’t believe that the concerns he mentioned were the main reasons he’s leaving. He said he came to Thailand several times prior and he should have seen and experienced these issues. He’s leaving because he’s running out of money and needs to go back to work. Period
Yeah, his story is a little fishy. That said, buying a new car and motorcycle and hiring the biggest house in Pattaya is indicative of somebody that doesn't plan very well.
Also, he said he's taking his Thai girl (who he hasn't known very long) back to the States, so best of luck with that.
@@samiam8114 Honestly I hope it works out for him, but I will never ever bring my Thai gf anywhere near the states. Nothing good will come of that.
Suspect that may be right but, OTOH, he does not seem to be the most discerning and far sighted of wallahs
But he's also saying he's just purchased a new house in texas and paid cash for it
My dad was retired in Thailand for 15 years. On those 15 years he would always complain about traffic in Thailand, this and that. Come back to the states, and after 3 months complain about the price of things in America, the traffic there, and general cost of living. And then start planning his flight back to Thailand. It’s easy to move to Thailand, it’s difficult to make the move back to the states after that. I see this happen often to people.
and the woke politics, and the crime and the winters up north, etc etc
He will be back within a year 😂😂
HAHA!!!
Typical American I love everything about Thailand they're going to have to find me and kick me outta here for me to leave for good, I mean you can always visit the states as long as it's still blue🤷🏽
@@ubiquitousdiabolus
Woke politics?! So you are fine with racism? Yeah, sure!
And the fascist bigots living in Red states.
The only THE ONLY reason 50 year old single/divorced fellas want to go to Thailand is primarily for one thing 😂😂😂😂😂 The Power Of the Fanny !!!
It’s a powerful thing
Not always true.
A very costly pleasure for most who go this route… It’s well documented but there are still plenty to jump in blind eyed, but it’s LOVE😂😂😂
So basically his problems with Thailand were Thai language and Thai people. What a surprise. I am sure moving expenses are less than a language course would have been.
The overall reason he's leaving Thailand is that he's going back to work because he has real estate debt. Everything else he mentions is small crumbs that can be resolved easily. Most farlangs leave Thailand for two reasons HEALTH or they have FINANCIAL issues.
Those can be serious concerns in Thailand
@@GreenyTravels not if you've got the money to offset it. Health is essentially money . Thailand has Awesome health care so long as you can afford it...?
Finances are definitely money..
Work is definitely money..
I don't agree at all , These are good reasons , heat is a big deal . If you can't handle one would not want to live in it . its a huge issue .
@@Truth-fk3vp I agree however I'm pretty sure this gentleman knew Thailand was hot and humid before he arrived. Plus the gentleman is quite heavy set so he should have known to makes changes to his diet or suffer the consequences.
Wait, everyone says that the health care is great and affordable in Thailand! What is the real story regarding health care? Is it cheap but the quality is poor or is it good quality but expensive for foreigners?
I’ve been in the cockpit for 30 years and never saw a pilot that large.
He must be wating mostly western food.
@@144k_Kingdom_Living …yep. Trying to figure out what cockpit he could operate safely in. Even in an economy seat as a passenger he would have issues….As far as his commercial medical, which is required, I wonder what AME would pass him.
How do you get so large on Thai food?
I'd be more worried about whether he took the shit shot.
He flys Jumbos.
Right! Thailand is not an easy place just like many other places. The safest way before embarking on that big plan to move to a foreign country to live permanently is to go there and rent a house to live for 3-4 years to learn the good and bad before deciding. What matters most is whether you can adapt quick enough with the local culture and traditions of that country. Test the water first before jumping in fully. Test is thoroughly
Good advice. I usually recommend a year first but definitely take as long as you need until 100% sure
@@GreenyTravels Right with so much info on youtube now, a year of rent is okay. Lots of online recon has to be done prior. If it takes 3 years of renting, something is wrong.
Old saying is don't burn all your bridges. 😢 21:03
@@bigradwolf5001 do you know why I recommended 3 years of renting? That’s where all the truth or ugly side of things will turn up. For some folks they could rent the 1st year and the 2nd year onward they could live in their girlfriends’ residence rent-free 😂
@@grahamgadd4786 Right! Don’t burn all the bridges but if you need to burn it you got to burn it down. But before doing so, build new and solid bridges which requires time and effort. If you do that you would have no regret.
Australian here. Born and bred in a town called Darwin.
I have been visiting asian countries since the 80s. The roads are crazy, biggest vehicles have the right of way, its a madhouse. As for the heat and humidity, Darwin is in the tropics of Australia so the weather is about the same. But it grinds away at you. I'm retiring in a couple of years and moving to Perth. Great place, pretty much my second home already. Its descibed as having a Mediterranean climate, hot summers, mild, wet winters, but low humidity. And that's the killer in the tropics. When you retire, you definitely want to find that place you're comfortable in.
My favorite vehicle is a 1970 Plymouth Fury. It was called a boat as well as a muscle car. I had one and regret ever selling it, but the roads in Thailand are not big enough for it. Plus the import tax to bring a vehicle in is horrendous.
Sounds like he mismanaged his finances like he has mismanaged his diet.
ouch!
Lmao 100% what a big zero
exactly. then complains about the country. ive been going to thailand for 20 years and never had a language barrier
Heat is extremely more tolerable to a thin person. Same is true for the opposite. Don't see many thin Eskimos. Then again I don't see many Eskimos at all while living in Florida.
Happiness is inside, not outside - no place, object, relationship or anything else in the outside world makes us happy for long. Unless you realise this, life's just a hamster wheel of frustration and misery.
Yes I agree
Spot on!
Correct
Where ever you go...there you are...
Exactly
I moved from the UK to Barbados. There's no such thing as paradise folks. Thanks for sharing. Good luck to you both in the new year 🇬🇧🍻🤎
If you want paradise go to North Korea, beautiful country I live there as an expat.
Thank you
@@eddieBoxer That's funny.
Barbados is rough bajan folks like thier pig pens.
Barbados LOL
Overall good video. Sayed in Thailand 5 months a year 2000 - 2015, great times 😊 for sure. Had a simple appartment in Bangkok never brought anything more than a suitcase. Took a few language classes. Would stay a month or two then leave for a few months. In and out keeps your sanity. Bringing a dog, buying a new vehicle, renting a big house amateur moves. Stay light, always be prepared to move on in a place like Thailand. Bringing a Thai girl back to the US super amateur move, know the game. The tax discussion is a non issue for US residents. Include The Philippines in your program, more options always better.
Good points. Don’t bring anything you won’t just walk away from
Robert Dinero in Heat.
Great move!!@@cipriandobrea7369
Traveling light is great if you aren't 100% sure you are going to stay there. I visited Thailand about a dozen times when I was in the military and gave Thailand some serious thought after I got out. I would have definitely waited 2-3 years living in country before ever making any big purchases. A house would have been something I purchased after getting married and had plans on having children. I think Big Scott had too much of the good life in the states and wanted to duplicate that life in Thailand. I think that was his biggest amateur mistake. You can't take America with you.
They want supermodels but look at the state of them. Nothing like a massive ego...
And there are some pretty shallow supermodels in the world.
You must not have listened to what he said. It was quite the opposite. I say rock on! I hope he and his gf love their new adventure!
@@crjetpilot He did say he was expecting to get a supermodel when he moved to Thailand but had to settle down with a very average Thai girl.
The facts he’s moved 20x for fun kinda says it all.
An airline piolet can commute from anywhere.
People who want careers as independent long haul drivers and international pilots enjoy being able to travel and seeing different places.
I say he moves 10 more times before he's to old to travel any more. He sure don't sound like a Texan anyway.
I'm sorry, but it just sounds like he moved here, realized that he actually had to assimilate to negotiate basic everyday interactions, got pissed and decided to leave. In all fairness, if I had the fallback option of a "six figure sign-on bonus" as he says, it makes the decision a lot easier. But, frankly, it doesn't sound like his heart was ever in staying in Thailand permanently.
Not for everyone
The reason why Scott is leaving, is Scott. Has nothing to do with Thailand...
He complains about the native people of a foreign country does not speak his language - and he's the guest? Come on now...
Same here in the Philippines. Americans get angry when the locals speak their own language. Call it "bamboo" or "yapyap".
You mean like the Hondurans and Venezuelans when they invite themselves HERE?
to be fair he wasn't really complaining. just point out that he can't communicate in Thai. :)
Sounds like alot of lameful excuses to me. Maybe he should take advantage of everything Thailand has to offer like improving his health by exercising, eating healthier and losing weight. I see so many middle age men come to Thailand and not try to maintain a healthy lifestyle!.
As a commercial pilot his livelihood is very dependent on being able to pass a class A physical. I wish him continued good fortune.
@@ccrider8483 what at the buffet?
Bargirls is why guys retire in Thailand... except Greeny of course.
Yep . those plane loads of old ex- pats ain’t going there for the weather 😂😂😂 . if they could be bagging young hot girls in their own country those planes would be empty 😂😂😂
This is why I stay only 3 or 4 months a year in thailand after retirement. I love Thailand but I still love my northern European area.
Well Northern European countries are some of the most sought after on the planet, so it makes sense.
This is the way to do it.
Smart move.
I moved south in the states because i learned to hate the cold. It is hot in Thailand but heat doesn't bother me. Even fighting in Vietnam i was glad it was a warm climate.
@@genericdeveloper3966 well USE to be ...The Muslims hordes are making it hell . Amazing the self inflicted Death those countries are committing
Thank you Big Scott for sharing your experience. It's easy to see that you enjoy bringing good news and being uplifting, so this must have been a bummer to express.
Thank you GreenyTravels for producing this video. It feels authentic and helpful to my own plans.
Best wishes to you both, and everyone else considering this journey.
Aloha
Appreciate you watching!!
Lived in Thailand for 3 years . Married a Thsi Girl . I cought him with a young thai guy . She spends my money to her family and boytoy . Left Thailand 2012 . Moved to Philippines , married a beautiful Pinay . Shes so loving and caring . We have 3 kids . Living here for 11 years and lovin it here . ❤❤❤
Nice.
Pinays are the best
Sounds like you married a bar girl. All my friends here in Bangkok are happy with their wives including myself
My mum is a Filipina ❤️
Caught “HIM” 😱😱…..CRANK
Se let me get this straight. He is packing his bags because Thailand is not what he was expecting and is bringing his Pattaya princess back to Texas out of all places with him? I can't wait for another video one year later.
Scott's Thai girlfriend may not like Texas due to the culture shock. Under US immigration law, how long can she stay in the US legally?
Good question but first he has to get her there. No easy task
@@patreimer7696 Six months I believe.
@@TheUtuber999 Thanks for the info. This is not a solution for Big Scott unless he marries his girlfriend and she gets permanent residency in the US. Green card!
Your pattaya girl will LOVE tx...
😂😂😂
Scott is a great guy, but I am not buying these excuses. You know about the heat, language and traffic if you have visited Thailand before. Sounds like he may be broke and needs to go back to work. I wonder if he can pass a physical to fly planes again. He may have to go on Ozempic for a year or two.
I hope it works out for him Frank.
I agree! It sounds like Scott wasn't ready financially.
I have met a swiss woman who was working with people having problems. She said that her clients where the men who came back home after a long term love affair in Thailand. She asked me a question "what was a main filling of them having been left after a 2 years of "marriage" with thai woman- what do you think? She said it was a shame! When they spent all they money on her house or buisness women were gone.
Definitely which leads to depression. It’s pretty sad
I met my wife when i first came to Thailand. We started a relationship and married a year later. That was 16 years ago. We never discussed our finances until after we were married. Turns out i am not rich but very secure financially. She turned out to be rich. I pay all the expenses since i think it is the responsibility of the husband and let her keep all her money. I am 23 years older than her so expect i will pass first. I consider her money a nest egg to make sure she can survive well after i pass. She also will receive about 4k a month in survivor benefits from me.
@@rondodson5736 If she has money, why is it "the responsibility of the husband". Is she somehow unable to pay her own way?
i visited Thailand but only as a tourist. i am fortunate as i have two pensions and do not have financial worries. However i lived in the Dominican Republic for 7 years and the Philippines for 4 years. Very similar problems in both of these countries to what Scott experienced! i took a massive beating on the resale of my personal SUV and a small fleet of Honda CRVs i used to lease out to tourists. i too now live in Texas with my Filipina wife and 2 young sons that were born in the Philippines. Best wishes Scott on your return to Texas. My name is also Scott!
Thanks Scott
I retired in 2003 (medical), I moved to Thailand in 2007 and have stayed. I fell in love with Southeast Asia when i was sent to Vietnam. Now my wife and i both enjoy traveling to other countries and can afford it.
You sound like a government employee
The point about the tax issue is super important, because it shows a larger issue: in all those countries (South East Asia) things can cgange, laws are not clear and basically there is no legal security as you know it in the US or Europe or Singapore. This is a constant threat, you could loose everything, get expelled for no reason and many other issues. Best advise: dont invest too much money as a foreigner, dont have too much funds in your local bank. Rent, live and enjoy..
Makes sense
I agree.
Always have a Plan B.
There are so many Thai ethnic women in Texas, USA… that was born n raised in America, think liked American, went to school in USA….Why on earth Scott the pilot wanted to bring a Thai woman from Thailand… that s dumbest idea..… to my opinion!
@@jkelliott3224
Hoping they wouldn't pick up the bad habits of women in the West.
Exactly. Rent. Walk. Enjoy the beach and food. Do some yoga! My coach always told me you can't be mentally fit if you are not physically fit. Health equals wealth 💯🎾🌞
Scott is so clueless about the proposed tax law in Thailand! Taxes will be imposed on "taxable Thai residents" on money EARNED overseas. His savings funds are monies that have already been taxed so it's not subject to double taxation by the Thai government. In order to be taxed on earned income overseas, you must have lived in Thailand for a number of consecutive months in Thailand per year. This proposed tax law was created to tax Thai nationals who are keeping earned funds in off-shore accounts and transferring them directly into their Thai bank accounts without paying any taxes.
Besides, western union is a real thing.. just transfer it in a creative way... Some people are dumber than a fence post... I don't know how he achieved his pilots licence but can't. Fathom the financial sector in his life... ??
It perplexes me.
That's absolutely not true.
Just sounds like he made a move in a hurry, didn't think it through. All the best to him from this Thai woman living in the US year 20.
If you want things your way, and your way only, then moving to another country is probably not for you.
In other countries they have their own way of doing things, and they don't change it for you, even if you think your way is better.
Greeny you’re a good size guy. He’s 2x your size. Thailand is not for everyone. Good luck to him going back to the U S. I live in the Philippines I wouldn’t move back to the U S for a million dollars
Yeah well no one's offering you the million.
This dude on the other hand is a pilot and there's a big shortage post covid so the airlines are really playing up - so he's gonna make bank.
Obviously it's good you're so happy in the Philippines - I'm happy for you - but we're not all the same and I don't think it makes him an idiot to go back if that's what he wants cool.
@@willsmith39 I understand it’s a lesson to other guys everything not to do when moving to a new country give it sometime. I’m just having fun with it.
Andre the giant size hands.
I could see leaving my country for up to 4 months out of the year. We did the for 8 years but health coverage when you are close to eighty is expensive. Plus you start familiar grounds.
@@billyjohnson9166 Fair enough 👍
I've worked overseas for 1/2 of my life, 30 years of my life in Europe, Korea, Thailand and know how he is feeling.. after a few years you're think you're missing something in USA go back and remember all the reasons you left USA. It is expensive, too much politics, too many people, travel anyplace is a chore flights, driving RV or hiking back country. We have a farm in Sakon Nakhon and just came back to USA in Oct and I can't wait to leave again and get back to farm on paradise hill. He is unhappy now.. wait till he get back to TX, I give people like him 6 months and they will be wishing they never left oversea. It is the new American Dream... Overseas with American retirement.
Everyone I go home for a few week it hits me fast why I left
It's always difficult . I spent 42 overseas, then returned to the UK almost 3 yrs ago.. will I stay dunno..
Like Scott I brought way too much back, an oversized 40ft container, plus I gave way too much away , sold house in the US way under value due to covid....etc etc
However I'm unlikely to return to the US..
Nevertheless I wouldn't have put things in sorage..
No way...
Amen
This man is too old to be homesick.
faaaactssssssssss
He Really needs to drop that weight ASAP...he's going to have a strict physical before being re-hired as a commercial pilot! A heart attack in mid air ain't what airlines are looking for! No more bacon, no sweets, lots of water...drop that excess blubber!
😂
I went to Thailand, hired a private driver who took me to all the great local eats. Tour the imperial palace. Played a round of golf. Spent a great time in Pattaya resort eating Durian and the best pineapple fried rice. A nice guy sold me a Rolex Daytona for $25. Came home full of great memories.
That’s the way to go. My first trip here 2010 weeks did the same thing in Bangkok. Great memories
It's not the heat that's the problem, it's the humidity. I used to shower 4 times a day especially during monsoon season.
Finally got a break the past few days
Yeah,I been in the in the desert in Australia in 48c dry heat, humidity if foul,I hate it...
I did that in 2014 from Montana to Dumaguete Philippines. Sold or tossed everything and moved there sight unseen. I lasted five years until the "Paradise Syndrome" wore off. But when I moved back to America I had no house! And prices were through the roof. I spent four years during "Xina Veerus" boondocking in remote lands in the western US.. Finally I found a nice town that still had cheapish houses. But best advice is DO NOT SELL YOUR HOUSE. You'll probably be back home.
That’s a great tip
Racist ala Trump . Typical American..
Absolutely solid advice. Being out of the market of a long term appreciating asset is financial suicide.
Home ownership is overrated.
@@Richard.Cabezais it? It’s something to leave to your kids and a foundation of a legacy
When he said he wanted to take time out to spend his dog's last year with him, I gained huge liking and respect for him.
Im a new subscriber. Not planning on moving to Thailand,but enjoy your videos,and like the cut of your jib Greeny. Great guest and interview. Cheers.
Thank you. Appreciate it.
Things worked out well for me. I carefully planned my retirement. I came over in 1991 for a job in a joint venture factory. I was concerned regarding my retirement. There is no Social Security here. I was saving quite a bit of money working here because the company furnished a vehicle and housing including utitities. The Thai economy crashed around 1997 so that turned out to be the kick I needed to go back to the US for a good paying job. I worked and lived frugally in Southern California for five long miserable years. During that five years I was able to top up my social security account and build another pension. When I was financially able to retire at age 59, I cashed out the factory pension and at age 60 I started receiving a private small pension. I bought a decent condo for cash and at that time still got 51 baht for a dollar. My financial situation allowed me to wait for Social Security until I would receive the ful benefit. Now with Social Security and the small private pension I have a healthy surplus every month. I'm not wealthy by any means but I am able to live exactly as I want and don't need to live on a budget.
Sounds well planned. Glad it worked out
Well played, I person with a plan and intelligence... 👍
How much is the monthly pension you are getting?
That's my business. Even my wife doesn't know and that too is my business. Suffice to know that I am not wealthy by any means and I have never received anything other than what I have worked for.
the key is pensions
Pilots have to undergo & pass medical examinations....I doubt Scott would pass the medical to fly again. He is worried about taxes in Thailand; Scott should be more concerned about his health & weight issue.
the tax law doesn't affect him and his savings. He's misinformed.
@@kevinp8108you say that with such certainty. Can you please share your basis for that premise. Enquiring minds want to know! 🤔
Generally, if you are upright and breathing you can find an AME who will pass you. That said, I agree with your second sentence.
I think I might have to report the guy to FAA.. I wouldn't want any health concerns causing any undue risks to passengers.
@@user-hh9dh3fj3fthis guy is most likely ho you want flying you and your family on a dark stormy night with things going pear shaped. Don’t judge the book by its cover!
Got to Thailand Oct and settling in, first time posting anything, wanted to see if works. Interesting video
That was a very genuine real conversation that I just watched in your video. Very interesting.
I appreciate it.
If he lost a ton of weight, he would not feel the heat as much.
yep the fatter that you get the more that the heat bothers you
He lost his money at the buffet... Its obvious.
@@user-hh9dh3fj3f😂😂😂😂
they funnest thing is to go to a cruise and watch the whales come in, love the ones with fried chicken, processed meats and then get a diet coke@@user-hh9dh3fj3f
I have been going to Thailand for 11 years and I understand everything he is leaving for but the good is so much more than the bad I really think its Him not Thailand
Seems he is suffering from a clear case of cognitive dissonance. And, based on all of the toys he sold when he left the U.S., he had quite a challenge to fill that void. Settling in Thailand requires a complete change in mindset.
It's 100% him...
@@Gregorio7b Agreed - the need to ship a full pallet there, and then TWO pallets back... that's someone a little too attached to material crap. Sure, there may be expensive tools in there, etc., but he's paid $7k for moving it there and back. He made/makes seriously good money as an international commercial pilot. He should have donated anything of value to a local orphanage (to use or sell). It's just 'stuff' - do you really need it?
bingo, gotta be a minimalist@@thunt1565
@@thunt1565 Agree. Easy to sell and buy back and cheaper than $7k.
Pilot? He could never pass the physical. I've had to do it and its difficult.
Live in Northern Thailand to avoid heat and humidity. Tolerance and self-discipline are key anywhere. Home is where you make it, not suddenly discover it.
Probably much more peaceful up there
Not so hot, but the winter smoke and haze are too much for me to handle.
The unhealthy air quality from Jan-May is a big turn off for me. Lung cancer is not part of my retirement program.
Sure sounds like Big Scott wasn't actually ready to retire and change his lifestyle enough to fit in to Thailand, and certainly hadn't spent enough time in Thailand before moving over. As a result he's pissed away a lot of money in the US and now in Thailand, quite an expensive lesson by the sounds of it.
I've spoken to a lot of Americans with similar attitudes, once the swagger disappears they realise they were unprepared to live outside of the bubble that is America.
Definitely not for everyone
It seems like Scott's reason is that he's not financially sound or else he would not go back to work as a pilot.
yep. like that old saying: you can’t put a round peg into a square hole.. once you’ve lived your whole life a certain way it’s hard to just uproot yourself and move to a strange country unless you can will yourself to adapt to the changes.. climate, culture ,language barrier,different food, loss of certain creature comforts, infrastructure, I’m experiencing these issues in the Philippines myself so you have to throw all the pros and cons in the blender and see how it shakes out..
He got bored.
@@svenw.6918 she got bored with his empty wallet...😉
no doult, he will be back🎉 you can make another episode to interview him for the reasons he come back.
lol. Sure. I don’t think so though. Only for vacation
HAHA you think greeny and Scott are doing a content grab? Haha!!!
I am from Florida, and am currently in Pattaya. I agree that the heat is extremely brutal. The traffic is also hard to get used to. Hua Hin is much cooler (more breezy for some reason), and more laid back (less traffic). When I retire it will be to Hua Hin (or the Philippines). Good video.
Lanta is even more relaxed but has quite good infrastructure. HuaHin was too busy for me
Lanta, nice choice!@@shmugg
we are in Pran Buri its much nicer than HH now (more hi-so) , been here 13 years have lots of property my wife has a property business I am retired safe as houses! Never going back to UK except in a box,
Where are you, coast, lakes or mountains...a lovely province?I wouldn't even GO back in a box, being scattered over my Garden...(Surat Thani, Natai).@@ebaystars
get out of Pat-hi-ya...lol its like Sin-city...discover Thailand first, before you write it off, MANY places with centres of 10-50k pop, that you can LIVE in...beaches all the way down to Malaysia...
Thais love Thailand, moving them out of there is risky. Although Texas weather isn't such a shock to the system. The daily heat is difficult.
Can't believe some of the negative comments on this post.
Scott is a good guy and his reasons are legit for a return to the US. I wish you all the best Scott.
Sure he's a good guy, But he just lasted through the honeymoon stage. The story is 100% predictable. And while I wish him success with his Thai lady who seems great, the odds of that success are pretty poor.
@@Gregorio7b Have you met him? I reckon no. Get back in your basement troll
No one can predict the future. Scott’s a good guy. Thailand not for everyone.
Great interview, sadly if the guy dont loose weight .He wont live long enough to enjoy a second retirement. I hope he will work on getting healthy
There truly is a pilot shortage if an Airline is going to hire that over weight guy.
@@handsomeman-pm9vyAre they go to weigh him just like they intend to weigh passengers in the near future?
Good luck Scott and wish you the best, I heard your points and clearly those a deal breakers for you.
One of the biggest problems i have with communication in Thailand is the literacy rate. You might have a translation app or whatever, but only about half the Thai people here can read their own language so it's still a big problem communicating here. Also is the question of people's intentions. Had a girlfriend that seemed great and not a gold digger. Long story short she ended up borrowing 80k baht and never paid anything back. The saving face thing is a mess because people will lie to you about anything if it makes them look innocent no matter how completely obvious it is they are lying.
The most women they are not the gold digger, but they are money digger and got a lots scammers too.
The other problem with communication is intellect. I've had some conversations with some seriously dumb people.
LOL. More than 90-95% of Thais are literate in their own language. It is not "about half the Thai people".
Some ? More likely ALL of them
@@ctfh1236 absolutely 💯 yes. And why? Because southeast Asia culture is different from western or American culture, when you're dating or marriage with them their families depend on you. Not only their parents, their sisters, brothers even cousins needs to depend on you too. That's why I called money digger.
He was a short timer in the 20 other places he has lived.
I know those 2 and how to mitigate the effects:
1) Heat -- work around your schedule where you go out early morning and back in air-con in afternoon sleeping and then go out at night. Essentially be a nocturnal person.
2) Crazy drivers - live in area where everything you need is walking distance 80% of the time. That way, you drive 1x in 2 weeks for the 20%. That mitigate crossing roads with the crazies.
Im Asian Am from the PI. came to the US 45 years ago to work marry and raise two grown boys. We visit the home country occasionally because of my parents properties and to enjoy the tropical weather and culture. The reasons you stated for leaving are reasonable and understandable. Foreigners going the the PI probably have the same sort of challenges except for the language issue since English is a second language in my birth country. Maybe you can make Thailand a frequent place for vacation between your work schedules this time around but not a permanent address.
I can relate to the extreme heat as well having not lived in Asia for a long time. But to me the most salient reason for me to stay in the US as a senior citizen is that as one gets older one should expect the possibility of health issues that will start to happen and Medicare will not cover except fpr emergencies. That means that once a year you must still come back here for physical check ups as well as stay if your health issues need monitoring. In my country every health care expense is paid in cash and sometimes before a doctor or hospital can treat you. thats a deal breaker to me. All it takes is one serious illness and your cash is completely wiped out.
All in all this video is a great information hub for others who are planning to go to anywhere in the developing countries in Asia. Its always pragmatic to do your homework first, and be honest in knowing and accepting the good the bad and the ugly about the place you want to set up your next address. An ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure, as the saying goes.
A generous comment 🙂
Great points! Appreciate the comment
Wow! Congratulations upon 237k views thus far Greeny! I’m happy for you. Much deserved. This episode was refreshingly honest.
Thx. Yes Scott put it out there. Thailand definitely not for everyone. Not everything perfect here
This dude is huge, how does he pass his medical?
How does the plane fly off with him in it? 😅
Barge Arse Airlines
Nah, he was a Blackhawk pilot and used to hang around special forces guys... His mad fit....😉
There is plenty of work for him as 40% of the vexxed pilots are injured or dead
Will he even fit into the cockpit?
Greeny great interview. I hope the best for Scott seems like a nice guy. Looking forward to moving to Thailand soon!! Keep the great content coming!!
Thanks. I like getting different people perspectives
I work for a major carrier....there's no way in hell that guy who's over 350 lbs is a pilot other than maybe a flight school instructor. He couldn't even fit in an Airbus 380 seat let alone a DC9...no way he passes a physical. I'm just saying....Sometimes stinks here...
I wanted to get my retirement in Thailand but I charged my mind the first day I spent in Bangkok. So hot, so polluted, so busy and crowded Then I visited a few flats. All the kitchens were poorly equipped, almost nothing. You just wonder how they cook. Then went to Pattaya and found it awful. All the guys were changing their sex to women. I asked why ? They said because they make more money as women. Ok.At the restaurant, I never knew if I was dealing with a man or woman. Strange.I guess I made the right decision. That culture is not for me but I love their food.
lol. You are exaggerating a bit
My best fishing buddy got let go by American Airlines because of his weight (about same looking as Big Scott)... Weight and Health restrictions to be a commercial Pilot is still an issue.... maybe not now with the Pilot shortage... but that changes FAST.
There are a lot of cargo and charter airlines that operate under part 135, dont have the same requirerments as passanger airlines. Can fly till you are unable to pass the physical, past 65.
Interesting reasons. None of them have been a deal-killer for me but others feel differently. My deal-killing problem is the absolute UNaffordability of health insurance here. I am 73 years old with quite a few preexisting conditions that make affordable health insurance impossible. The ever-changing visa situation is another minus for Thailand. They are obsessed with driving out all the foreigners who are not millionaires. Cambodia is looking like my best option.
"Cambodia is looking like my best option" You think that you can get a better deal on health insurance in Cambodia? I have resigned to cover my health cost out of pocket, but will go back to the US for physicals and medications every 3-6 months, and if I have any catastrophic medical issues, go back to the US permanently.
In Cambodia, Is there affordable health insurance for over 70 with preexisting? I think that it is a problem everywhere because the difficulty to use your existing insurance (for example Medicare if you are in the US) in another country. The quality of medical care in Thailand is actually a plus but obviously not a plus if is not affordable because of lack of insurance.
What is unaffordable?
You are spot on about medical. It will for sure drain or bankrupt you if don’t have medical insurance
Health insurance can start to become expensive after 65. It really depends on your financial situation. I pay most of the medical bills out of pocket because they are usually, but not always, 1/5 to 1/10 the cost in the states. If you have some money then you may look for a high deductible policy that kicks in for a very serious medical emergency. That should bring the cost down, but pre-existing conditions are usually excluded. Right now medicare part b costs around 2k per year if you sign up at 65 and it pays 80 percent of allowed costs after the deductible. The copay cost in many cases is higher than the cost for treatment in se asia. It is 10 percent more each year you delay signing up for part b. Part A pays allowed hospital costs for 60 days after the deductible. Nothing is perfect and no best answer. if you have very bad health then look first a place that has good medical care at a low price. I doubt America will give you the best deal. Most se asian policies exclude the usa for a reason.
My brother's been out there married 20 years (pops back occasionally). Of course he misses some things, hates having to deal with the annual paperwork, but he really loves it out there.
A three month stay last year taught me that the intense heat and the suicidal traffic was not going to work for me. Saw 2 scooter drivers die...and the constant sound of the ambulances...This was on Koh Samui.
I am not so old...and very fit. I wasn't able to do any outdoor stuff except walking the beach and go for a swim every 10 minutes.
I am from Sweden. I need fresh air...
Koh Samui definitely one of the more dangerous places to drive. That wa the first place I ever rented a motorbike here. What a place to learn.
So, have you returned to Sweden permanently?
@@Dan-xx5jq For the time being...We'll see.
I'm Swedish born, have lived in Seattle nearly all my 56 yrs. I visit Sweden frequently, but haven't been back since 2015. Have you considered Italy, with the cheap housing? I do have a EU passport along with US. I'm going to Thailand for dental and vacation, will be there for a month. I've never been to Asia, but I"m a regular traveler/adventurer.
@@dagsterblaster4973 I have a very affordable apartment in Stockholm. That will probably be my base till I die.
Driving in Eastern Europe is my absolute favorite thing to do. Modern but the feeling of Sweden when I was young. Safe and polite. The Mediterranean Sea is much better in Croatia compared to Italy. Islands and crystal clear water. I end up in Pula, Istria every August-September. My absolute favorite. Perfect for E-biking long distances😘
I think Scott is making a lot of excuses, his argument is weak. This guy just got homesick. Learn enough of the language to get by. The best thing is to learn the language well, this will help you immensely. He appears to have had 1 foot out the door right from the beginning. It's wise to visit Thailand several times at different times of the year to get a better idea of what you are getting into, then keep your residence in your home country for a while (at least a year) until you are sure this place is for you.
You're correct, plus wasting tons of money moving everything back and forth..jeepers
Scott was never ready to retire from the start! It seems like he was escaping from something with his dogs. You don't move to a foreign country just to spend time with your dogs. The fact that he has moved around a lot tells you something. Why would he return as a pilot if he was financially sound?
Good questions
I'm retiring as an airline Captain in January and will be moving to Thailand Feb 1, 2024. Living in Jomtien. I suspect that Scott and I stayed in the same hotel in Argentina. Same exact lockdown experience. I've been enough to know that the heat doesn't bother me, I know the driving is an obstacle course, intend to study Thai.....and I'm a "one suitcase guy" who has already sold all his material possessions. Already don't miss a thing (especially the boat and RV). Can't wait to be free!
That’s the way to do it
There is no reason you can't build a life in Thailand where you don't need to drive. I plan to live somewhere that I can walk almost everywhere and only need a Bolt when I am going to a specialty store
Why choosing Thailand over other countries like The Philippines, Dominican Republic, South America? Just asking
@@rgasta7765 Been to all of them. Even built a house on the coast of Brazil (which my Brazilian ex-wife now owns). There’s no hard answer to this, except i just love it the most. Cost of living. The people. The food. Doesn’t hurt that i have a Cambodian girlfriend there too.
@@nixworld767 I like Jomtien TH too. But as an American the Philippines are the best place to settle due to language and culture similarity
No offense I hope, but isn't there a weight limitation on pilots, plus the health exams u need to pass to keep yr license?
It totaly depends on person, individually! I lived in Thailand for four years! 1984-88. I was lonely but I was happy! It was job related and I learnt Thai on the streets! Thai people are most pure , innocent, and helpful people in Far East! ❤
I met Scott in Jomtien one time. Great conversation and a nice guy! Good luck on your next adventure!!!
Thanks.
He should get one of those complete physicals while still in Thailand to determine that he will in fact easily pass the pilots medical exam in the USA
Things have changed.
They don't even have doors now apparently
They are screaming for pilots at the moment, pretty sure he will be a walk up start with some airline somewhere.
Worst for me is 1.Pollution/burning season 2.Heat/humidity 3.Traffic
Really had fun. To see greeny and Scott
Thank you.
Lamo. That is weak excuses to go back to U.S because that style of driving is everywhere in Asia. It's that way in Chicago. Also if he is to hot look at his body. He isn't in any kind of shape and of course he probably breaths hard and sweets alot too. Odd are he isnt drinking water and staying hydrated and to stay cool well hello he is on an Island and plenty of ocean to swim and swimming pools to. Then after all that he says he has to go back to work. So why say anything else? Just say you have to go back to work.
Very nice guy, I wish him well, he’s spot on about tax, it’s going to be a major issue for people living in Thailand.
Spent over a year in Thailand, love Thailand but you do miss your own country & your own language, but biggest thing is earning potential, sounds like the big guy is worried about his finances, smart to move back if he is
nice honest conversing
That is why I admire you Greeny you keep it real. Real nice video
I appreciate that Kevin
For myself the dream scenario would to be able to afford to live in both places. Thailand in the cold winter months and N. America the rest of the time. One things for sure, being overweight and out of shape would not be an enjoyable experience living in a climate like Thailand.
Most condos include a free gym/fitness center! Scott got fat because he chose not to exercise or watch his diet.
Your scenario is the perfect mix... I really don't know how people get out of shape in Thailand, it's got great fresh food and plenty of traditional gyms and Muia Thai gyms.
gym doesnt help with weight loss,,,,,hahaha,,,,Eat less calories,,,,,hahahahahaha,,,,,@@kevinp8108
Don't know how Scott will fit in a cockpit.@@kevinp8108
Best of both worlds! Makes you appreciate Thailand even more!
You shared very good practical tips. I take them.
Appreciate it
Thank you for honesty
You are welcome!!
After living in Thailand since 2003 through 2011, when I moved back to the US, I noticed right away that I did not fit in America anymore.
Partially because of covid, I was stuck there longer than I wanted to be, but two years ago I returned, and happier than ever.
WHERE DO YOU LIVE PATTAYA OR PHUKETT?
Well you just got old perhaps. Nothing is ever the same as it was from your mindset point of view
@@mcluvin65 there are more places but i think your education is not very high so lets say phuket.
@@jacked6 I started traveling again as soon as my kids got out on their own. I came to Thailand, fell in love with it, am still in love with it, and am still disgusted with the way things are in the states and have the same reasons for not wanting to live in the states. My mindset hasn't changed.
we asian always have a saying, living in N.America is like a 2nd class citizen, in asia you can live like a king.
Thanks Greeny and thanks for your honesty Scott, Thailand is just not for everyone, wish you all the best for your return hopefully you will find a destination that suits you🥰🎅✌🏿
He has no idea if his girlfriend is honest. The only way is to bug her phone/residence and hire an interpreter to translate everything. That's the only way to get the truth.
Yes so delusional, It can't happen to me, I'm the exception !!
The #1 reason I haven’t moved to Thailand is the HEAT! He’s right.. it is oppressive! 😅 For me that’s the only drawback.. that and burning season 🤦🏾
I understand where Scott is coming from. After moving to Thailand and the new wears off, it stays so hot you don’t feel like doing anything.
Riding a motorcycle in Thailand would have to be like being inside a hair dryer. Best of luck Scott.
That's the same anywhere. I've known a lot of people that retired in New England and immediately moved to Florida and sold it all. Then came back in a year or 2. They based their experiences on 2 weeks in February in a condo every year. Vacation living is not 24/7 and 365 living. Going from 20 degrees in the winter to 70 for a couple of weeks seems like you went to heaven. Which gets reenforced when you go back to 20. Then you find out what August is like. The guy mentioned the weather there in the video. I'd suggest multiple month long stays at different times of a year to see if something clicks. And possibly try different locations. For most, it clicks just fine.
That's why many people risk not wearing helmet due to heat.
@@dlewis9760Don't even compare Florida to Thailand. It's like comparing Thailand to Dubai.
@@bigradwolf5001absolutely.... Florida is super pleasant compared to Thai heat. When he says "the heat is oppressive" in Thailand, take that literally not metaphorically.
For a hair dryer you're thinking of Arizona. In Thailand you feel better on the motorbike, it's when you get off it and take the helmet off you feel the heat.
He has some great points, I just got a place in Koh Samui; however, I’m gonna try 6 mos / 6 mos. Just because I’ll be jonesing for a good cheese burger by then. Thanks man, you got great advice.
Appreciate it.
yea I’m in the Philippines and I hear ya. I would kill for a Mexican combo platter - shit man , even for some nachos with guacamole 😊😊😊
I think it’s often loads of little things that cause you to return home……. None of which on their own are a big deal
Great show bud! Stay cool 😎 kind and generous.
Thank you!!