I find it kind of funny how after Joker hands Maruki his calling card, he's all like "Oh right, that. Almost forgot to max my security level for the occasion."
So the 3rd awakening is kind of like accepting their current growth and past goals but also how they plan to strive for their dreams and goals without compromise. Morganna's first persona represented his envy of humans and desire to be one while his second represented his acceptance of his role as a guide and mentor to the team. His 3rd persona likely represents the fact that, even if he isn't a human, he can still uphold a gentlemanly quality he hoped he would achieve as a human. Ryuji's represents his desire to continue striving towards his trackstar dreams (shown in the sportswear his persona bears) in much the same way his original persona represented his straightforward nature. Only this time it's William without the pirate moniker, likely meaning that Ryuji plans to accomplish his dream without the delinquent moniker he used to get back at society. Ann's is surprisingly based not on the identity of her original persona but on a woman who performed as Carmen so well, the role was rewritten to suit her own character. This represents how Ann wants to become a model for the sake of being an inspiration and strength to others like herself and Shiho. Yusuke's represents his artistic spirit like Goemon but it's overly garish coat likely represents his will to set out on his own to create his own art rather than be guided by a mentor or seek the appraisal of other artists. It ties into his confidant arc about seeking true beauty and understanding all the different aspects of the human heart to find it. Makoto's persona still embodies Johanna's symbolism of being uncompromising in beliefs and moving towards a goal without hesitating but it's sleeker design gives it the impression of being a powerful and absolute arbiter of justice, likely embodying Makoto's principles and renewed passion to upholding her father's legacy with her own beliefs. Futaba's persona bears the true name of the Necronomicon and resembles a Pyramid like her palace. It no longer represents a desire to seek or give forbidden knowledge but likely to take all of that knowledge within itself (like a tomb) and use it for her own self growth. Which is likely shown by her wish to start high school. Haru's persona is a modernized Milady. While Milady represented a refined dignity that hid a rebellious spirit underneath, Lucy represents Haru working towards restoring her company's reputation and rectifying her father's wrongs by steering it in a direction that will prioritize customer happiness. She no longer acts like dainty royalty and chooses to take matters in her own hands. For Sumire, Cendrillon represented Cinderella at the ball, hiding behind a guise of royalty to escape her poor self, much like how Sumire hid behind Kasumi's identity to escape her trauma and conversely, Vanadis likely represented Sumire's true personality and decision to uphold her and her sister's dream (so in a way Cendrillon is kind of like Kasumi's persona and Vanadis is Sumire's). Ella represents Cinderella after being wed, bearing the grace and beauty seen in the girl at the ball but no longer hiding behind a false self - having been seen for who she really is. Likewise it represents Sumire upholding Kasumi's will and even appearance but staying true to herself as Sumire. Akechi's two personas represented the hatred he bore in his heart as well as the almost comically fake and superficial justice he pretended to uphold. Hereward bears Robin Hood's physique but the sleek black typical in villains. This likely represents Akechi maintaining his hatred and staying true to himself but how, in spite of that, he wishes to do the right thing even if it results in his death. Unlike Robin Hood's flamboyant and superficial appearance, Hereward represents a truly heroic spirit: One that does the right thing even if others will not see it as such. Finally come's Joker's Raoul. If Arsene represents a selfish rebellion to get back at society and Satanael represents the rebellious will of society itself, Raoul represents the rebellious will of a gentleman thief fighting for society even if they do not wish it. Maruki's reality is a golden ticket with absolutely no downsides and many people would benefit from it (not least of all the Phantom Thieves themselves). But Joker chooses to oppose that so that people can grow and move forward instead of getting complacent. This is me basically bullshitting opinion but that's how I interpret the symbolism of each persona.
Mario Tyamukueni I have a better idea: Squidward: **SEES** **FIRST** **TIER** **PERSONA** Squidward:Try to imagine him in his underwear. Squidward: **SEES* **THIRD** **TIER** **PERSONA** Squidward: Oh no he’s hot!
I get it. The first persona is the memories, the second persona is the growth. Put those two together and you get the truth, the third persona. Both the modern looks and the first name basis shows, who they were and who they became are forever now one.
Really is baffling they chose not to voice them. The second tier were all voiced although that's probably due to the added fact it's maxing the confidant. No excuse not to voice imo.
Exactly.. I actually don't know if you noticed but in P4G you will receive a special dialogue when you romance a female heroine which makes the bond more genuine.. I feel bad that every girl here feels like you are just friendzoned during 3rd awakenings of their persona's and doesn't commit any love interest at all on any of them.
It’s weird because they do have unused voiced clips which were removed for some reason. I believe Faz has them on his channel. They lines are different though.
These are all so sick. They go from characters from fictional books or magazines, to literal gods, to modern day personas. But it sucks that Raoul has to be DLC. The modern Arsene, made to be paid for...
Not only that the first forms are all people who were tricksters of some kind. And the 2nd form are all those who were persecuted in some way. And then 3rd form being the inspiration of there Orriginal persona
@@Wildcard_Ninjaa "little" late but IMO Raoul should have been like Orpheus Telos, a rewars for maxing all confidants showcasing Jokers bonds influencing him.
Just to let you know some of this was found on a P5 fandom website and a bit of wiki. Also I’m sorry in advance, this is long comment...you have been warned 1:45 - Don Diego de la Vega is a fictional Californio nobleman of Spanish and Native Californian descent, living in Los Angeles during the era of Mexican rule. 5:09 - Célestine Galli-Marié was a French mezzo-soprano who was most famous for her role of Carmen 9:50 - Captain Kidd’s real name was William Kidd. His early career was spent in the Carribean, where he aided the besieged English colony of Nevis by ransacking the attacking French. Eventually, he was captured and sent to London, where he was tried and executed in 1701, the number printed on the persona's hood. 14:40 - Al Azif is the original Arabic name for the Necronomicon , a fictional tome of forbidden knowledge first mentioned in the short story “The Hound” written by H. P. Lovecraft. 19:25 - Gorokechi was a childhood nickname of Goemon. During his youth he was raised among the Iga-ryu ninjas before he set off on his own to become a rouge ninja. 24:21 - Agnes: Another name for Johanna, the female pope of the Middle Ages. Posing as a man, her wits and ability helped her climb the ranks. Her story shook the Catholic church to its core 27:49 - Lucy Hay, Countess of Carlisle was an English courtier. Her character and duplicitous actions are popularly considered the inspiration for the character of Milady de Winter in Alexander Dumas's novel “The Three Musketeers” 31:07 - “Cinder Ella” was a diverse nickname, born from her hard work always leaving her dusty and sooty. After marrying her prince, she became Princess Ella 41:46 - Hereward the Wake: The legendary Saxon who opposed the Normans during their conquest of England in the 11th century. Said to have been the basis for the tales of Robin Hood.
@@SteelSpurs persona 3-5 all the party members personas have a theme that go along with them. Despite what some thing atlas puts lots of thought into why that party member has what personas and what as a group that means
i really like how a lot of the third tier names are like the orginal and true-to-life names for the figures their personas were based on. i think it fits with the theme of "true self" and reality really well
F for Joker’s Third Tier Persona. They could of have him show up for the final boss like Satanael did. And his third tier Persona look so cool, like a modern version of Arsene.
They already felt bad about accepting Maruki’s reality while Joker fought by himself. Now with their third persona awakenings, they felt even worse when they realized they literally wished for Maruki’s new reality.
Basically,Yeah! It gets better after you understand the meaning of each Persona. Necronomicon is the forbidden book in which in the Cthulhu Mythos has a detailed entry for all entities,Gods and Monsters,of the Mythos,Prometheus was said to be the Man who gave fire to Humanity in Greek Mythology,thus giving Humanity Knowledge and the Ability to create their own things,Al Azif is the True name of The Necronomicon and its said that is the Real version as well,in it is all the Knowledge previously held and the Power to Summon these Gods to be "Subservient" to the summoner,that's one of the Reasons Futaba and Akechi are my Favourites,their Personas and their Stories in the Game are so well written.
A little side note:I did not yet confirm this,but,I think Futaba's Persona is the most Recent one in terms of Creation and Reference,the first appearance of the Al Azif is from 1938,I don't think there any Personas after this date that are referenced in the Games,if I am wrong,i will just have to find out what Persona is more Recent than it.
minnie for me, I maxed out Kasumi before the palace stuff. If anything, morgana’s second persona is the shortest spent. You literally only use him once in one of the shorter dungeons in the game too.
Ryuji's room is messy and disordely Ann's is fashionable and modern Haru's is pristine, fit for a princess Makoto's is orderly and academic Yusuke just has a canvas and paint on the floor, considering he is always poor Sumire's is elegant and beautiful Futaba's is like a digital library Akechi and Ren, being rivals, find themselves together at Leblanc, the place that the phantom thieves consider safe and their hideout
@@comediannamestaken or Philomela: Philomela was raped by her sister Procne's husband, Thereus, and he ripped out Philomela's tongue so she couldn't reveal this to Procne. Procne however found out and fed her husband human flesh so he could not go to Elysium unless he atoned for his sins.
@@jcoolguy1548 yeah that plus the showtime with joker is a subtle, not really subtle way of what atlus thinks the most canon persona 5 royal ship is xd
Except that no, the Third Tier Persona are direct ref of the 1st tier, Hereward is a throwback to his 1st Tier, Robin Hood while Loki isn't directly linked to him, like the other 2nd Tier Persona who are deity/mythological figures associated with Trickster/rebellious traits.
Haru Okumura That’s not true. I like/love Ann as Ren/Akira’s 1st female friend. To me she’s #4 Fave PhantomGirl AND #2 Fave Lovers Arcana. Also I’m judging her Personas, not Ann. And Truthfully despite what I rank her Ultimate Personas AND Persona Evolution, doesn’t change the fact that her Personas are MY #1 Fave Personas of The Lovers Arcana❤️😊
Apologizing to him, but more importantly to themselves for how easily the betrayed their ideals over Maruki's perfect world. Akechi, I feel, in his own way, was apologizing to himself over how he let his life become so completely controlled and obsessed with Shido and that he'd never let anyone decide who he was or what he'd do. That this was his last chance to truly be, "Akechi." Even at the expense of his life. I know everyone is sad that he had to die. But, ironically, this was his only opportunity to truly feel alive. Not a pawn, or a puppet, or some cliché, anime-looking, power-of-friendship, pretty-boy, detective prince. His own damn self.
I love how all their base persona’s are based on mythology or folk tale, so old fashion And their second Personas are so different and modern so When they fuse it’s like the old meeting the new, like how Celestine is blowing bubble gum, or how William is riding on a Yacht. Its a return to their true selves but with a stronger will, and this helps boost the context with them apologizing for losing their way
Yeah I'm kind of disappointed they made him a dlc persona and not another joker awakening at the start of third semester or something. Would of been cooler
I like to think of Persona 5 and Persona 5 Royal as alternate universes. And that Striker is the continued adventure in the original Persona 5 universe.
Am I the only one who was slightly disappointed that the royal awakened personas didn’t carry over to Strikers? Or the second awakening personas for completing the social links?
@@theosmith6275 perhaps, but that can easily be explained as she was busy all summer with gymnastics stuff, in another country. You best believe she was following her BF and their fellow Phantoms online though, when she could
I find the idea that You and Joker canonically are awful with time management and left all their party member social links at 9 to be kind of hilarious.
@@Tubular_dude_20y_ago I’ve actually maxed out all of my social links across four playthroughs of P5R, I’ve just never been able to unlock all the royal awakenings for each of the phantoms. I’ve also never managed to get all my social links maxed out in a single playthrough, shit’s fucking impossible even if you clear out the palaces in like 2 days in-game time
I mean, I don’t think Royal is part of the canon of P5, but I think Strikers was made canon as a sequel-like thing to vanilla. I’m not positive on this though, I’ll have to double check that one.
Strikers is canon to royal in the jap release it makes a reference to the third semester but since in the us we only had vanilla the change the translation to vanilla.
"I will carve my own path for myself..." "But then, you'll..." "So what? That's the path I choose...or are you really so spineless that you'd fold over some bullshit, trivial threat on my life?" "I won't fold." "Then you know what needs to be done."
lol even Atlus realized the first tier designs were better than the second tier, so now we’ve gone back to modified versions of those. I get that the second tiers are supposed to be more famous/more powerful, but man, having Captain Kidd instead of Seiten Teisei was waaaaaay cooler for a Persona.
11:20 Persona Lore Guru: “Cognitive Futaba doesn’t exist, she can’t hurt you.” Cognitive Futaba: 19:20 Where do I recognize that hairstyle... *(Remembers getting beaten to death in the TH-cam comment section)* Oh yeah.
I love the persona abilities and styles but it’s a shame that some of the 2nd tier personas had to leave. For example: I liked Kamo-susan-oo and Anat, but it would be weird if everyone else got a third tier persona except them. Wouldn’t have it any other way... Also, is no one gonna talk about Gorokichi and Goro Akechi? (This basically means Akechi has a Robin Hood persona with the Japanese Robin Hood’s name. Damn)
god i never picked the "indecisive" ones in Akechi's awakening, but hearing him say "Your indecisiveness on the matter is essentially a betrayal of my wishes" broke me omg
Phantom thieves: "Joker! I'm so sorry I was dumb." Kasumi: "Senpai I love you, you are my everything ♡" Akechi: "You're so fucking stupid. I hate you. Just let me die"
How the hell does Haru's persona learn Tentarafoo!? Last time I checked Ann learns it at level 30. Plus its waaay too overpowered to give her mental ailments, since her primary elemental magic deals bonus damage to them. If Forget ailment works the same like in the original (it doesn't have an attack triggering technical damage), she should've got that. But I think they made Psy deal technical damage to it now, I'm not sure.
Oh I didn't notice that, that's actually amazing. It also isn't a skill from the jazz club so it's probably part from her natural skill set which is super good
@@vahe7422 I liked it better when Ann had it, so then Haru could end the foes with a single Mapsiodyne. Now she can't do that... unless Ann still learns it.
All Persona users (except Akechi and Yoshizawa I think) now have status afflicting moves since Royal has revamped technicals. They can't learn it (except for Ann/Morgana lmao) as they already have the moves from the minute they join the party
@@vahe7422 Yes, but in the original game, she learned Tentarafoo. I'm at Shido's palace already, and I know their ailment skills. Morgana learns Pulinpa, Ann gets Dormina and Lullaby. Makoto gets Makajama and Flash Bomb which is a physical attack that can inflict dizzy. Haru initially learns Tentarafoo, which kept her on the team, since I find Brainwash and Confuse the most useful ailments, next to Dizzy!
(Please correct me if I’m wrong) But isn’t Akechi’s “3rd Awakening”, a 2nd awakening since Loki isn’t his second awakening? (For anyone that doesn’t know. Akechi is like Joker, he has the same power as joker in which he has more than one Persona to control, which would make Loki, a Persona that represents him and making Robin Hood representing his “Justice” fake personality.)
My understanding is that he has a similar power to Jokers but it isnt identical. Both Loki and Robin Hood are his own personas, but his ability means he can hold both of them rather than giving up the original (ie how Ann gives up Carmen to get Hecate). I believe I read that Robin Hood was his original persona while Loki is his awakened one. This is just conjecture, but I think while most of the characters had positive character growth to awaken to their 2nd personas, Akechi had negative due to Shidos influence. Robin Hood is his desire to be viewed as and act as a hero, but Loki is his absolute hatred for most of the world. Essentially Hereward can be taken as him reconciling his desire to be a hero with his misanthropy (ie: the world sucks, but im still willing to die for it if only for myself). If Akechi had had friends or trusted others, he may have been able to capture personas or hold more of them, but because he didn't, hes stuck with the ones he was able to make himself.
![Persona 5 Royal + Scramble ALL AWAKENINGS in Chronological Order! [1080p] [SPOILERS!]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/22ptU3V_P0Q/mqdefault.jpg)
I love how every phantom thief is like:
"I betrayed you!!"
And Joker is just like:
"It's not the first time this has ever happened"
"I betrayed you"
"Well at least you didn't put a gun to my head."
It reminds of what Jesus said before the judas incident in the bible
Isidiro I'm guessing you mean Peter's betrayal. Jesus still took him back after the betrayal of Peter occured.
@@richardalex4516 yup i got my religions confused
and akechi's one only happens if you don't betray him. kinda ironic but it shows how they care about each other
I find it kind of funny how after Joker hands Maruki his calling card, he's all like
"Oh right, that. Almost forgot to max my security level for the occasion."
"whoops, lemme just go on red alert real quick, thanks for the reminder!"
“Dr. Maruki, you forgot to collect the homework from yesterday.”
So the 3rd awakening is kind of like accepting their current growth and past goals but also how they plan to strive for their dreams and goals without compromise.
Morganna's first persona represented his envy of humans and desire to be one while his second represented his acceptance of his role as a guide and mentor to the team. His 3rd persona likely represents the fact that, even if he isn't a human, he can still uphold a gentlemanly quality he hoped he would achieve as a human.
Ryuji's represents his desire to continue striving towards his trackstar dreams (shown in the sportswear his persona bears) in much the same way his original persona represented his straightforward nature. Only this time it's William without the pirate moniker, likely meaning that Ryuji plans to accomplish his dream without the delinquent moniker he used to get back at society.
Ann's is surprisingly based not on the identity of her original persona but on a woman who performed as Carmen so well, the role was rewritten to suit her own character. This represents how Ann wants to become a model for the sake of being an inspiration and strength to others like herself and Shiho.
Yusuke's represents his artistic spirit like Goemon but it's overly garish coat likely represents his will to set out on his own to create his own art rather than be guided by a mentor or seek the appraisal of other artists. It ties into his confidant arc about seeking true beauty and understanding all the different aspects of the human heart to find it.
Makoto's persona still embodies Johanna's symbolism of being uncompromising in beliefs and moving towards a goal without hesitating but it's sleeker design gives it the impression of being a powerful and absolute arbiter of justice, likely embodying Makoto's principles and renewed passion to upholding her father's legacy with her own beliefs.
Futaba's persona bears the true name of the Necronomicon and resembles a Pyramid like her palace. It no longer represents a desire to seek or give forbidden knowledge but likely to take all of that knowledge within itself (like a tomb) and use it for her own self growth. Which is likely shown by her wish to start high school.
Haru's persona is a modernized Milady. While Milady represented a refined dignity that hid a rebellious spirit underneath, Lucy represents Haru working towards restoring her company's reputation and rectifying her father's wrongs by steering it in a direction that will prioritize customer happiness. She no longer acts like dainty royalty and chooses to take matters in her own hands.
For Sumire, Cendrillon represented Cinderella at the ball, hiding behind a guise of royalty to escape her poor self, much like how Sumire hid behind Kasumi's identity to escape her trauma and conversely, Vanadis likely represented Sumire's true personality and decision to uphold her and her sister's dream (so in a way Cendrillon is kind of like Kasumi's persona and Vanadis is Sumire's). Ella represents Cinderella after being wed, bearing the grace and beauty seen in the girl at the ball but no longer hiding behind a false self - having been seen for who she really is. Likewise it represents Sumire upholding Kasumi's will and even appearance but staying true to herself as Sumire.
Akechi's two personas represented the hatred he bore in his heart as well as the almost comically fake and superficial justice he pretended to uphold. Hereward bears Robin Hood's physique but the sleek black typical in villains. This likely represents Akechi maintaining his hatred and staying true to himself but how, in spite of that, he wishes to do the right thing even if it results in his death. Unlike Robin Hood's flamboyant and superficial appearance, Hereward represents a truly heroic spirit: One that does the right thing even if others will not see it as such.
Finally come's Joker's Raoul. If Arsene represents a selfish rebellion to get back at society and Satanael represents the rebellious will of society itself, Raoul represents the rebellious will of a gentleman thief fighting for society even if they do not wish it. Maruki's reality is a golden ticket with absolutely no downsides and many people would benefit from it (not least of all the Phantom Thieves themselves). But Joker chooses to oppose that so that people can grow and move forward instead of getting complacent.
This is me basically bullshitting opinion but that's how I interpret the symbolism of each persona.
you my friend made so much sense of the phantom thieves 3rd tier awakenings, my hat is off to you
This is actually spot on......... I’m basically speechless
Thats amazing thank you for that
Fantastic analysis. If only Raoul wasn't locked behind paid DLC... Thanks Atlus
TheHappy_P0tat0 yes.
all these awakenings happened in their homes except for goro, so that makes Leblanc his home, right?
_Joker is his home_
I agree and will therefore accept this as the truth ^^^^^^
HONEY I'M HOME
@@TheLPRnetwork You're back awfully late >:c
Akechi is boarding with me after the Shido incident. 😁😂
Third tier Personas: exists
Me: Oh, that's hot. That's hot.
Mario Tyamukueni I have a better idea:
Squidward: **SEES** **FIRST** **TIER** **PERSONA**
Squidward:Try to imagine him in his underwear.
Squidward: **SEES* **THIRD** **TIER** **PERSONA**
Squidward: Oh no he’s hot!
I get it. The first persona is the memories, the second persona is the growth. Put those two together and you get the truth, the third persona. Both the modern looks and the first name basis shows, who they were and who they became are forever now one.
I didn’t realize that
That's cool
Wish the third tier Persona events were fully voiced like P4G but not complaining cuz great dialogue either way.
Really is baffling they chose not to voice them. The second tier were all voiced although that's probably due to the added fact it's maxing the confidant. No excuse not to voice imo.
Exactly.. I actually don't know if you noticed but in P4G you will receive a special dialogue when you romance a female heroine which makes the bond more genuine..
I feel bad that every girl here feels like you are just friendzoned during 3rd awakenings of their persona's and doesn't commit any love interest at all on any of them.
It’s weird because they do have unused voiced clips which were removed for some reason. I believe Faz has them on his channel. They lines are different though.
These are all so sick. They go from characters from fictional books or magazines, to literal gods, to modern day personas. But it sucks that Raoul has to be DLC. The modern Arsene, made to be paid for...
Not only that the first forms are all people who were tricksters of some kind. And the 2nd form are all those who were persecuted in some way. And then 3rd form being the inspiration of there Orriginal persona
Which would you rather, a New New Game +, or Raoul to be DLC
Brandon Millar Storywise? New Game+
@@Wildcard_Ninjaa "little" late but IMO Raoul should have been like Orpheus Telos, a rewars for maxing all confidants showcasing Jokers bonds influencing him.
Just to let you know some of this was found on a P5 fandom website and a bit of wiki. Also I’m sorry in advance, this is long comment...you have been warned
1:45 - Don Diego de la Vega is a fictional Californio nobleman of Spanish and Native Californian descent, living in Los Angeles during the era of Mexican rule.
5:09 - Célestine Galli-Marié was a French mezzo-soprano who was most famous for her role of Carmen
9:50 - Captain Kidd’s real name was William Kidd. His early career was spent in the Carribean, where he aided the besieged English colony of Nevis by ransacking the attacking French. Eventually, he was captured and sent to London, where he was tried and executed in 1701, the number printed on the persona's hood.
14:40 - Al Azif is the original Arabic name for the Necronomicon , a fictional tome of forbidden knowledge first mentioned in the short story “The Hound” written by H. P. Lovecraft.
19:25 - Gorokechi was a childhood nickname of Goemon. During his youth he was raised among the Iga-ryu ninjas before he set off on his own to become a rouge ninja.
24:21 - Agnes: Another name for Johanna, the female pope of the Middle Ages. Posing as a man, her wits and ability helped her climb the ranks. Her story shook the Catholic church to its core
27:49 - Lucy Hay, Countess of Carlisle was an English courtier. Her character and duplicitous actions are popularly considered the inspiration for the character of Milady de Winter in Alexander Dumas's novel “The Three Musketeers”
31:07 - “Cinder Ella” was a diverse nickname, born from her hard work always leaving her dusty and sooty. After marrying her prince, she became Princess Ella
41:46 - Hereward the Wake: The legendary Saxon who opposed the Normans during their conquest of England in the 11th century. Said to have been the basis for the tales of Robin Hood.
Incredible findings.
This makes the game a lot more interesting.
The amount of detail and lore behind this game and its Personas is outstanding.
The creators really did their homework
@@SteelSpurs persona 3-5 all the party members personas have a theme that go along with them. Despite what some thing atlas puts lots of thought into why that party member has what personas and what as a group that means
i really like how a lot of the third tier names are like the orginal and true-to-life names for the figures their personas were based on. i think it fits with the theme of "true self" and reality really well
Don Diego de la Vega is also the real identity of Zorro
F for Joker’s Third Tier Persona.
They could of have him show up for the final boss like Satanael did. And his third tier Persona look so cool, like a modern version of Arsene.
But locked behind a pay wall
They were originally planning to, but changed their minds.
The strange thing is that Raoul, despite being Joker's third-tier persona, it's weaker than Satanael.
Gioele Alpizar that honestly sucks to be honest
Matías Aguayo Really? That is so weird. Is he still a good Persona to use?
They already felt bad about accepting Maruki’s reality while Joker fought by himself. Now with their third persona awakenings, they felt even worse when they realized they literally wished for Maruki’s new reality.
So... Futaba's persona went from UFO to Pacman and then to Star destroyer from SW...
10/10, best game ever
Basically,Yeah! It gets better after you understand the meaning of each Persona.
Necronomicon is the forbidden book in which in the Cthulhu Mythos has a detailed entry for all entities,Gods and Monsters,of the Mythos,Prometheus was said to be the Man who gave fire to Humanity in Greek Mythology,thus giving Humanity Knowledge and the Ability to create their own things,Al Azif is the True name of The Necronomicon and its said that is the Real version as well,in it is all the Knowledge previously held and the Power to Summon these Gods to be "Subservient" to the summoner,that's one of the Reasons Futaba and Akechi are my Favourites,their Personas and their Stories in the Game are so well written.
A little side note:I did not yet confirm this,but,I think Futaba's Persona is the most Recent one in terms of Creation and Reference,the first appearance of the Al Azif is from 1938,I don't think there any Personas after this date that are referenced in the Games,if I am wrong,i will just have to find out what Persona is more Recent than it.
Enemy AC130 above
Al Azif is reallu just a _Pellaeon_ class.
More like a pyramid ship from Destiny 2 IMAO.
Vanadis was Sumi's persona for like a whole 5 seconds lol
Shame too since Vanidis looks great
Kinda weird she gets a third tier persona in tha case.
minnie for me, I maxed out Kasumi before the palace stuff. If anything, morgana’s second persona is the shortest spent. You literally only use him once in one of the shorter dungeons in the game too.
Hereward too 😂😂just for one boss, if you use akechi of course
Yusuke's persona looks like something from jojo..... He is Jojo
His English VA is the same as Jotaro's. (Matt Mercer)
His Japanese va (Tomokazu Sugita) voiced (young) Joseph Joestar.
You guys just prove my point
@@sharonvirginia6041 Yusuke is quite the JoJo
@@josephujoostaa4462 indeed
"I'm flattered Ryuji, but-"
“personal space, yusuke”
pls atlus just let us be gay ONCE-
@@DopeioThePhoneBoi i mean there is that one negotiation dialogue option
6:45 new sprite ryuji
6:48 old sprite ryuji
7:06 back to new
i will never not be sad about akechi and ren’s bond
Ryuji's room is messy and disordely
Ann's is fashionable and modern
Haru's is pristine, fit for a princess
Makoto's is orderly and academic
Yusuke just has a canvas and paint on the floor, considering he is always poor
Sumire's is elegant and beautiful
Futaba's is like a digital library
Akechi and Ren, being rivals, find themselves together at Leblanc, the place that the phantom thieves consider safe and their hideout
Let’s be honest
Most of us have a ryuji or futaba room
Akechi: Let’s go back to our reality...
*They defeat Maruki and escape the palace*
Everyone: Where’s Akechi?
Morgana: He dun guft
He dun guft
He dun guft
He dun guft
All Phantom Thieves: sincerest apoligies
Ryuji: S Q U A T
Kasumi: People always say a messy room means a messy heart.
Me: Looks at my room..
So THAT'S the reason I have CVD!
...so thats why my skins blue!
So that’s why I see garbage in the mirror!
nonono, thats a reference to persona 2 with maya
*Looks at room and life...
She's not wrong.
>girls all have lovely rooms
>boys rooms are barely furnished
damn Yusuke even Futaba's is more aesthetic than yours
I was thinking... if Ann's second Persona is Hecate, then Shiho would have Persephone or Demeter.
you genius
@@comediannamestaken or Philomela: Philomela was raped by her sister Procne's husband, Thereus, and he ripped out Philomela's tongue so she couldn't reveal this to Procne. Procne however found out and fed her husband human flesh so he could not go to Elysium unless he atoned for his sins.
@@comediannamestakenDemeter uh… she’s fine as a support in smtv
I love how the third tier personas are just very modern versions of the first tiers.
-gorokichi lookin fabulous doe-
probably some symbolism like they stuck to the past but now they're striving for the now/future
Am I the only one that thinks Sumire's third tier persona looks like a bride
@@jcoolguy1548 no
@@jcoolguy1548 that’s the point, Ella is Cendrillon’s happily ever after where she marries her Prince Charming.
@@jcoolguy1548 yeah that plus the showtime with joker is a subtle, not really subtle way of what atlus thinks the most canon persona 5 royal ship is xd
Goro Akechi is one of the greatest written characters of all time. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.
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am I seeing mad facts??? Let's go.
Fave 3rd Tier Personas:
1. Ren’s Raoul
2. Akechi’s Hereward
3. Sumire’s Ella
4. Morgana’s Diego
5. Ryuji’s William
6. Futaba’s Al Azif
7. Haru’s Lucy
8. Yusuke’s Gorokichi
9. Makoto’s Agnes
10. Ann’s Celestine
- Fave P5 Persona Evolution:
1. Ren’s
2. Akechi’s
3. Ryuji’s
4. Sumire’s
5. Morgana’s
6. Futaba’s
7. Yusuke’s
8. Haru’s
9. Makoto’s
10. Ann’s
But at least put hereward on the list
Except that no, the Third Tier Persona are direct ref of the 1st tier, Hereward is a throwback to his 1st Tier, Robin Hood while Loki isn't directly linked to him, like the other 2nd Tier Persona who are deity/mythological figures associated with Trickster/rebellious traits.
Alexia Samsonoff Yeah I guess...
TheFatihTrio ok
Haru Okumura That’s not true. I like/love Ann as Ren/Akira’s 1st female friend. To me she’s #4 Fave PhantomGirl AND #2 Fave Lovers Arcana.
Also I’m judging her Personas, not Ann. And Truthfully despite what I rank her Ultimate Personas AND Persona Evolution, doesn’t change the fact that her Personas are MY #1 Fave Personas of The Lovers Arcana❤️😊
With how all of them except Akechi were apologizing to Joker it makes me think of this tier as the apologetic tier
Apologizing to him, but more importantly to themselves for how easily the betrayed their ideals over Maruki's perfect world.
Akechi, I feel, in his own way, was apologizing to himself over how he let his life become so completely controlled and obsessed with Shido and that he'd never let anyone decide who he was or what he'd do. That this was his last chance to truly be, "Akechi." Even at the expense of his life.
I know everyone is sad that he had to die. But, ironically, this was his only opportunity to truly feel alive. Not a pawn, or a puppet, or some cliché, anime-looking, power-of-friendship, pretty-boy, detective prince. His own damn self.
That "...You caught me" sounded so cute holy.
Me by the third awakening: yo can I just call everyone over to the hideout and get this done in one go. I’m wasting valuable 3rd semester time
LMAO SAME. AS MUCH AS I LOVE THEM WE HAVE PLACES TO GO!!!
18:33 yeah, i know where this is going.
>Personal Space, Yusuke.
........Makoto/Minato, is that you?
Oh I can't tell you how much I wish it went there.
you're gripping kinda hard ;)
hehehehe ;)
"Yusuke,I believe a certain phrase needs to be used at this time....no homo"
Yusuke's 3rd tier persona is a Pimp
That's what I was thinking!
Nah he's the Godfather.
PEAK PIMPDOM!!
It's josuke
Maruki heres your calling card
*security intensifies*
All the palaces do that now iirc
I love how each of their rooms show their personality
Firecraft 703 what about AKECHI’s
@@xm2895 All 3rd tier awakenings happens at their homes. I might be reading into it but it's believed that Akechi sees Leblanc as his home.
cablecrusher26 well he is an orphan so I guess it makes sense
Poor Ryuji. Being poor isn't a personality lol
@@Zaratrustme nah, but that poster on the back probably says something about his personality
I love how all their base persona’s are based on mythology or folk tale, so old fashion
And their second Personas are so different and modern so When they fuse it’s like the old meeting the new, like how Celestine is blowing bubble gum, or how William is riding on a Yacht. Its a return to their true selves but with a stronger will, and this helps boost the context with them apologizing for losing their way
I like the fact that Ryuji's turned back into a pirate, and Morganna's turned back into Zorro, and Makoto's turned back into a bike
Tidbit about Morgana and Ryujis 3rd tiers is the names are the actual names of the original personas, Diego = Zorro, William = Captain Kidd
I find it odd no one here comments bout how much the girl on the poster in Ryuji's room looks like Kairi form kingdom hearts.
Akechi: I feel so alive!!
Me: Your dead in reality though...
u don't have prove that he's dead tho
Akechi is really a hell of character, the best for me so far, his story and personality is so good
Sumire: *Persona is literally a bride*
Joker: IM OUT!
Sumire: what’s wrong ren?
Ren: *i have NOT signed up for this*
@@yaradoom7605 I dated her in the third semester, so I kinda did
@@Fatalis690 i would too tbh
Damn Ryuji’s persona came from a boat to a yacht
Akechi...
>Forgetting Life Wall
Why tho...its useful.
Seriously, that move made beating Lavenza possible for me lol
William < Diego < Célestine < Lucy < Gorokichi < Raoul < Agnes < Al Azif < Ella < Hereward
I feel like Roaul is what Joker would have gotten had he officially had a third tier Persona.
Yeah I'm kind of disappointed they made him a dlc persona and not another joker awakening at the start of third semester or something. Would of been cooler
Yusuke made the same mistake twice averting his eyes from the truth :(
The first awakening is a legendary figure
The second awakening is a deity
The third awakening is the true name or inspiration behind the first
I love Sumire Yoshizawa and am deeply hurt that I have not seen her in Strikers😭😭😭
I think that was due to the fact that, Strikers was both developed and released before Royal
I like to think of Persona 5 and Persona 5 Royal as alternate universes. And that Striker is the continued adventure in the original Persona 5 universe.
I’m deeply hurt by her absence as well.
@@johnathanholmes1297you could not have said that better
Akechi’s third tier awakening is more of a fusion between personas since Robin Hood and Loki are separate personas.
First personas:rebellion.
Second personas:descend.
Third personas:the ascend and realizing of the true being.
Am I the only one who was slightly disappointed that the royal awakened personas didn’t carry over to Strikers? Or the second awakening personas for completing the social links?
What disappointed me was the exclusion of Sumire.
@@theosmith6275 perhaps, but that can easily be explained as she was busy all summer with gymnastics stuff, in another country. You best believe she was following her BF and their fellow Phantoms online though, when she could
I find the idea that You and Joker canonically are awful with time management and left all their party member social links at 9 to be kind of hilarious.
@@Tubular_dude_20y_ago I’ve actually maxed out all of my social links across four playthroughs of P5R, I’ve just never been able to unlock all the royal awakenings for each of the phantoms. I’ve also never managed to get all my social links maxed out in a single playthrough, shit’s fucking impossible even if you clear out the palaces in like 2 days in-game time
Yusuke’s persona’s name is Gorokechi. Sound’s familiar🤔
How
ikr Goro Akechi....
_When you hit backspace twice_
It,s just the child name of goemon
Hmmm. Doesn't ring a bell
Anyone else realize it switched to ryuji's old portrait from p5 for a few seconds at 8:01?
it really sucks we only get a short amount of time to use hereward and ella
reaper and lavenza stonks though?
5:59 Pfft...Let’s all admit, We all thought Ryuji was gay for Akira for a moment Xd
...we all *WISHED* lmao
YES
We were begging them to add in gay options so let's dream
gOD DAMN IT, RYUJI. WE KNOW YOU LOVE AKIRA
i mean he kinda is but joker straight ig? atlus isnt really gonna make a romancable guy in persona unfortunally. but we got persona 2 if
Shame Strikers is on the Vanilla version and not have a Royal Strikers Version DLC/expansion pack
I mean, I don’t think Royal is part of the canon of P5, but I think Strikers was made canon as a sequel-like thing to vanilla.
I’m not positive on this though, I’ll have to double check that one.
Strikers can be made canon to Royal and Sumire can just be away at a competition,like they did with Marie in P4 Arena.
Strikers is a canon sequel for persona 5 vanilla
@@themonkeyman2910Royal replaced the Vanilla as Canon
Strikers is canon to royal in the jap release it makes a reference to the third semester but since in the us we only had vanilla the change the translation to vanilla.
Yusuke's third awaken persona literally looks like a pimp and I love it
Morgana 1:35
Ann: 4:56
Ryuji 9:37
Futaba 14:25
Yusuke 19:11
Makoto 24:08
Haru 27:35
Sumire 30:54
Akechi 42:05
You forgot Ann
@@rodolfosanchez3397sorry
"I will carve my own path for myself..."
"But then, you'll..."
"So what? That's the path I choose...or are you really so spineless that you'd fold over some bullshit, trivial threat on my life?"
"I won't fold."
"Then you know what needs to be done."
Can we confirm Akechi is a Bat man fanboy? Xd
lol even Atlus realized the first tier designs were better than the second tier, so now we’ve gone back to modified versions of those. I get that the second tiers are supposed to be more famous/more powerful, but man, having Captain Kidd instead of Seiten Teisei was waaaaaay cooler for a Persona.
Pour one out for Vanadis...even less screentime than Haru...
I think they made Raoul DLC as there’s no way it would be more powerful than Sataniel, which killed Yaldaboth.
Was gonna say that, how the hell can that be topped? It's like Ren skipped right over Raoul and went straight to His third tier with satanael.
Johanna: badass bike
Anat: transformer bike
Agnes: *TANK BIKE*
Joker's Third Awakening was at the PS Store paywall lol.
Can you show takuto’s journal/diary entries in his palace next? Thanks for your wonderful work
So, Makoto's persona was a bike, then a person, then a bike again?
Well I’m pretty sure it was bike, transformer, Batmobile.
@@Kingofavolon we got Chad man in here
We went from Kei Nijimura's born this way, to a transformer, to the P4 velvet room.
11:20
Persona Lore Guru: “Cognitive Futaba doesn’t exist, she can’t hurt you.”
Cognitive Futaba:
19:20
Where do I recognize that hairstyle...
*(Remembers getting beaten to death in the TH-cam comment section)*
Oh yeah.
This is underrated
19:15-19:49
Kamumon!
Goemon!
DNA-Digivolve to...
Fr-r-r-r-r-ankie-mon! SUUUUPERRRRRRRR!
"All right" "okay" the best words for me
I love the persona abilities and styles but it’s a shame that some of the 2nd tier personas had to leave. For example: I liked Kamo-susan-oo and Anat, but it would be weird if everyone else got a third tier persona except them. Wouldn’t have it any other way...
Also, is no one gonna talk about Gorokichi and Goro Akechi? (This basically means Akechi has a Robin Hood persona with the Japanese Robin Hood’s name. Damn)
36:58
Ren and Akechi:*mind* HOW MUCH DID HE KNOW!?
MAN
I find it both cool and hilarious how Makoto's Persona is *_literally a transformer shifting between robot and vehicle modes with each awakening_*
Does anyone else feel like some of the third tier Personas aren't as good-looking as the second tier?
Goro Akechi makes me happy *more like dead inside* but... happy.
Of course you include the 3 best girls inside the thumbnail
2:02 Is tHaT a JOJO reference!!!!!
Diego Brando ie best boy
@Coperfil Negro it's a joke
@@naut1lus447 also the truth...
@Coperfil Negro him as a Persona looks so cool
When got too yusuke awakening i couldn't help to look at that painting of that oddly misshapen woman in the background
Its not like I complainting or anything! Yusuke is my favorite character
Morgana home is technically the metaverse
god i never picked the "indecisive" ones in Akechi's awakening, but hearing him say "Your indecisiveness on the matter is essentially a betrayal of my wishes" broke me omg
Phantom thieves: "Joker! I'm so sorry I was dumb."
Kasumi: "Senpai I love you, you are my everything ♡"
Akechi: "You're so fucking stupid. I hate you. Just let me die"
L Akechi meant to say he loves you2 but developers are dumb
@@Frierent he's too tsundere to state out loud he loves Joker but man do I wish I could romance him
L we all do
To Akechi,
Bold of you to assume that you were actually alive in the first place.
16:52 How funny it would have been if Joker and Yusuke were just a step closer to one another.
i find it so cool how some personas are based off of actual historical figures
Persona 5: Fuck you Akechi!
Persona 5 Royal: I love you Akechi!
How the hell does Haru's persona learn Tentarafoo!? Last time I checked Ann learns it at level 30. Plus its waaay too overpowered to give her mental ailments, since her primary elemental magic deals bonus damage to them. If Forget ailment works the same like in the original (it doesn't have an attack triggering technical damage), she should've got that. But I think they made Psy deal technical damage to it now, I'm not sure.
Oh I didn't notice that, that's actually amazing. It also isn't a skill from the jazz club so it's probably part from her natural skill set which is super good
@@vahe7422 I liked it better when Ann had it, so then Haru could end the foes with a single Mapsiodyne. Now she can't do that... unless Ann still learns it.
All Persona users (except Akechi and Yoshizawa I think) now have status afflicting moves since Royal has revamped technicals. They can't learn it (except for Ann/Morgana lmao) as they already have the moves from the minute they join the party
@@ellenhunter5531 Ann learns Lullaby instead of Tentarafoo
@@vahe7422 Yes, but in the original game, she learned Tentarafoo. I'm at Shido's palace already, and I know their ailment skills. Morgana learns Pulinpa, Ann gets Dormina and Lullaby. Makoto gets Makajama and Flash Bomb which is a physical attack that can inflict dizzy. Haru initially learns Tentarafoo, which kept her on the team, since I find Brainwash and Confuse the most useful ailments, next to Dizzy!
I like how the original and 2nd awakened personas merge designs because William, Diego, and Gorokichi are cool.
19:28 the flyest persona
Motorbike fusion motorbike horse engine: MOTORBIKE FF7 DESIGN UPGRADE!!!!
me: FOR REAL?????
Why aren’t these voice acted these are very important moments for the characters
I think about this often with the persona third awakening in my head it’s a yugioh fusion reference.
What would be even better is do their default clothes changed and became more sophisticated almost like a pokemon
Bruh.
Futaba got a Star Destroyer and Yusuke got Elvis.
Yusuke’s is like a rich person or something. With all the clothes
but he can't afford food
personas are manifestations of people's inner feelings/thoughts, which means canonically yusuke got mad drip, he just doesn't have the money for it
It bugs me that we don't find out the name of Yusuke's mother
The final fight in Third Semester (no, not the boss fight) brought a tear to the eye.
(Please correct me if I’m wrong)
But isn’t Akechi’s “3rd Awakening”, a 2nd awakening since Loki isn’t his second awakening?
(For anyone that doesn’t know. Akechi is like Joker, he has the same power as joker in which he has more than one Persona to control, which would make Loki, a Persona that represents him and making Robin Hood representing his “Justice” fake personality.)
My understanding is that he has a similar power to Jokers but it isnt identical. Both Loki and Robin Hood are his own personas, but his ability means he can hold both of them rather than giving up the original (ie how Ann gives up Carmen to get Hecate). I believe I read that Robin Hood was his original persona while Loki is his awakened one. This is just conjecture, but I think while most of the characters had positive character growth to awaken to their 2nd personas, Akechi had negative due to Shidos influence. Robin Hood is his desire to be viewed as and act as a hero, but Loki is his absolute hatred for most of the world. Essentially Hereward can be taken as him reconciling his desire to be a hero with his misanthropy (ie: the world sucks, but im still willing to die for it if only for myself).
If Akechi had had friends or trusted others, he may have been able to capture personas or hold more of them, but because he didn't, hes stuck with the ones he was able to make himself.
One thing came to my mind seeing these...
Fu...
Sion...
HA!
Damn Yusuke's persona got that Colgate fade
I understand Maruki’s actions and I kinda of agree with him,the end that you agree with him is kinda good and relaxing
Joker’s probably getting really tired of everyone apologizing to him right about now.
I’d live in a fake universe to redeem Akechi