It's a nice change of pace to see more stock cars battling it out on the Touge, and foreign ones too. Don't get me wrong, I also love it when tuners gather around to compete their builds on the MAX series.
Thank you for the english subs! I have a C7 Z51 7MT with the mag suspension and I always took it kind of personal the way they goofed on Corvettes like the ZR1 and C6. My C7 truthfully drives very similar to my old AP2 just 20% larger with twice the horsepower. Even has a quicker steering rack. You can even set the display to look like the bar graph from the S2000. These are a steal for being in the mid-thirty thousand dollar range and the insurance is dirt cheap because it's considered an old man's car!
LC500 is a GT, and the C7 Corvette is a sports car (some versions could be considered supercars...). The 50/50 weight distribution (helped by the transaxle), GM's differential calibrations, and their front end tuning really make these cars fly. Similar front end treatment has been seen on the Cadillac ATS-V and CTS-V of the same era, mid to late 2010s. GM engineers won't say exactly what they're doing, but, as Jason Cammisa put it, these cars are "dynamagic," which he says is achieved through a combination of diff programming, magnetic shock tuning, and the PTM (stability control) system. At least in terms of the ATS-V, if you experience understeer, you could "simply add more lock to the steering wheel. In response, the car tightens its line." The C7 does the same.
Japanese people are very humble, they acknowledge that they still have much to learn from foreign cars despite the fact that their automotive technological prowess is at the peak.
@@twincammikev its definitely not slow.... it just has different priorities than the corvette. its a much nicer car, is almost guaranteed to last longer, and has a back seat. compare a clean sc3/400/soarer to a clean late c4/early c5 corvette, much different cars... with the sc/soarer being much much nicer, and much more reliable in my experience.
Both of these cars are awesome. More people in the states tend to go more for the American Vette cause of the price for performance. But I can say for myself at least that the LC looks absolutely stunning in body language and design!
Love the Hot Version Best Motoring ! Takes me back to the late 90s early 00s when we couldn't wait to get a new dvd release from these guys. DK, MAXX , Nob but where is Kazumi chan??????? Thank you for uploading this w/ english subtitles.
I had both corvette c7 z06 and lc500 at the same time. But i sold my corvette c7 z06 last month because i like more lc500. I don't need a sport car for track.
私はこのチャンネルが大好きで、非常に面白く、非常に有益で、車の間で偏った意見ではなく、購読したばかりです👍 I'm in love for this channel, very entertaining, very informative, not biased opinion between the cars, just subscribed 👍
No doubt, one is a full size lux car based coupe, the other a purpose built sports car with generations of pedigree.. Glad to see the clear lack of bias here, a willingness to admit the truth. We need more of that in more things.
I adore the C7. I was the most excited about C8 while everyone complained about “roots” and “heritage”, but when it finally landed, I found it paled in comparison. I’m glad GM brought Corvette into the 21st century, but damn that C7 was balanced and gorgeous! Hopefully the C8 Z06 and ZR1s are monsters though.
@@80PercentAshamedOfU don't think people realize they've been planning to make a corvette like the C8 for decades in concept form that they're even present at the corvette Museum as mid engine vettes also and even having a near planned rotary mid engine vette also so they have no reason to be mad at chevy for the making of the C8.
Really unfortunate they don't get to test American cars like the Shelby Mustang GT350R, Dodge Viper ACR, C7 Corvette Grand Sport, and Camaro Z28. Maybe they would have better opinions on American cars if they tried these. I say this as a Honda S2000 owner
the lc was more composed than i thought it would be considering its weight and.... intended usage... i thought it would wallow about and be undrivable at the limits in a situation like that.
Thank you to the person in charge of subtitles. You’re my hero
I watched the whole thing not knowing they were there...
Tsuchiya praising the Corvette, pleases me so much.
This was never going to be a fair battle for the lc500 but it’s nice to see the Z51 being so well received.
コレ観てコルベット買った友達2人もいるんだけど、凄い影響力。俺も欲しいぃ
@@Mugendina 作れば良くね?普通に。
@@lui1250 では作ってくれよなー頼むよー(煽り)
@@lui1250ほならね
The recent generations are incredibly good cars for the money, especially in the US, people here overlook corvettes in favor of bmw m cars or amgs
自分カマロssから乗り換えましたけど同じエンジンでも全くロールもしないしコーナーリングが違いますよ…なんせカッコイイですし😊
Thanks for the English subs!
The motoring gods have smiled upon us all, on this blessed day.
The C7 looked better going through this touge than the C6 did back in the day
スカイラインジャパン
Of course its a completely different car
They had a base model hertz rental spec C6 back then not even a hot model so no shit
GM did a lot to improve the handling and stability of the C7 compared to the C6.
アメ車が曲がらないと言われたのはもう昔の話だ…今のコルベットは、曲がるっ!(須藤京一風)
In fact, in addition to Corvette, Camaro ZL1 1LE, Ford GT, and Viper ACR beat many European supercars on race tracks.
いやコルベットは曲がるで有名なんだけどね。。。
Wow Tsuchiya giving the Z51 Vette so much praise, big thumbs up!
4:39ここのVVT-iの切り替えとシフトアップの音がたまらないんじゃ〜
吸気側はVVT-iEですね
VTECみたい笑
It's a nice change of pace to see more stock cars battling it out on the Touge, and foreign ones too. Don't get me wrong, I also love it when tuners gather around to compete their builds on the MAX series.
it just depend what they can get borrow from the hq...
Man this is a welcome shift to see foreign cars tackle the Touge. Would love to see the GT3 RS, GT350R, and the AMG GT-R Pro tackle the Touge.
They already has AMG GTR into a touge against Nissan GTR
昔ながらの直線番長じゃないってトコに喜びと寂しさの両方を感じる
Thank you for the ENG subs!
Thank you for publishing these with such well-done subtitles!
Finally some English subtitles. Haha. TQ
15 mins into the vid and trying to understand whats going on based on what japanese i learnt in highschool and i see this comment lmao
There are so many loan words used in these videos that I usually have a gist of what's being said in the Japanese only uploads.
Yeah, and it got extra weird about 20 seconds in (he came)
@@baronvonricer (he came)
Its the small things in life that makes us happy
コルベットのリアなかなか奇抜ですね!中央4本出しは初めて見たけど、好き❗️
Thank you for the english subs! I have a C7 Z51 7MT with the mag suspension and I always took it kind of personal the way they goofed on Corvettes like the ZR1 and C6. My C7 truthfully drives very similar to my old AP2 just 20% larger with twice the horsepower. Even has a quicker steering rack. You can even set the display to look like the bar graph from the S2000. These are a steal for being in the mid-thirty thousand dollar range and the insurance is dirt cheap because it's considered an old man's car!
I can't believe what people are willing to pay for a S2000 with 100,000+ miles on it that puts out half the power of a C7.
@@9unslin9er To top it off if you turbo the engine or turbo a swapped-in k motor you ruin the handling lmao
LC500 is a GT, and the C7 Corvette is a sports car (some versions could be considered supercars...). The 50/50 weight distribution (helped by the transaxle), GM's differential calibrations, and their front end tuning really make these cars fly.
Similar front end treatment has been seen on the Cadillac ATS-V and CTS-V of the same era, mid to late 2010s. GM engineers won't say exactly what they're doing, but, as Jason Cammisa put it, these cars are "dynamagic," which he says is achieved through a combination of diff programming, magnetic shock tuning, and the PTM (stability control) system. At least in terms of the ATS-V, if you experience understeer, you could "simply add more lock to the steering wheel. In response, the car tightens its line." The C7 does the same.
LC500 has the best pure v8 sound.
Amazing car!
織戸さんは若い頃カマロでドリフトしてましたよね〜懐かしい〜笑
„He came“ 😂😂😂
Srly wtf 😂
Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed. Had to rewind the video just to be sure. 0:24
lol xD
I thought I was going crazy for a second when I read that 😂
Japan 100
LCは国産車の中でも群を抜いて憧れる1台!
V8のサウンド、造形の独自性、塗装や内装の仕上がり等は文句なしですね。
唯一にして最大の欠点が”スポーツカーとしては重い”でしょうか。
ラグジュアリークーペというコンセプト通りに見れば素晴らしい車だと思います。
すべてが美しいLC
昨日lc500 試乗してきて次購入しようと思います!
しっとりという例えがドライバーチックですね
The C7 Stingray is one of the most beautiful cars ever created.
Very nice video, thoroughly enjoyed it, was nice seeing the guys, especially Tsuchiya, enjoy the American Corvette for once.
Japanese people are very humble, they acknowledge that they still have much to learn from foreign cars despite the fact that their automotive technological prowess is at the peak.
I love having the english captions with explanations for japanese puns ❤️❤️ thank youuuu
LCで峠→ドキドキする
The LC500 looks more luxurious than sporty. I think the RC F would be a better competitor
Thanks for the English subtitles! The old clips at the beginning is such a nice thing to see. Keep on including them in every new video. Thank you.
ラグジュアリークーペvsバチバチのアメリカンスポーツカー
I started laughing when they played heavy metal riffs when the Corvette was introduced. 😂
They did for the Lexus too haha
its like in the 80s and 90s whenever an asian character appeared in an action movie the gong and "oriental piano riff" play
LC500 all day long, that beauty makes a statement, what a looker
eh to each their own
But it's slow.. LOL
It's a GT car, not a fully fledged sports car.
@@twincammikev its definitely not slow.... it just has different priorities than the corvette. its a much nicer car, is almost guaranteed to last longer, and has a back seat. compare a clean sc3/400/soarer to a clean late c4/early c5 corvette, much different cars... with the sc/soarer being much much nicer, and much more reliable in my experience.
Yup lc500 all day
Tsuchiya: **praises Corvette**
Corvette: B-baka. It's not like I'm trying to impress you
土屋さんもきっと甘酸っぱい恋を経験してこられたのでしょう。
もてたやろなぁ
おかわりいただけるだろうか?
LC所有してる者ですがLCはクーペで乗り心地が良く快適に乗れる車です。長距離運転も楽です。
なので運動性能でいうとコルベットの方が上ですね〜
ベスモ最終回のLFAvsコルベットの時とはもう全然違うのね。
コルベット凄い!
16:04
落ち着きすぎやろ流石プロ
自分だったらコルベット乗っててあの動きさせちゃったらおしっこ漏らすわ
しょんべん漏らすくらいで済むとか運転うめえなぁ!
大破だわ!
c7、買います。
良過ぎる
正直立っているステージは違うけれどもどちらもアメリカンドリームな車でいい車
コルベットはスポーツとして
LC500はラグジュアリーとして
コルベットの7速MTすげぇ速かったなぁ
Both of these cars are awesome. More people in the states tend to go more for the American Vette cause of the price for performance. But I can say for myself at least that the LC looks absolutely stunning in body language and design!
But performs so poorly.
@@ap2.v1 it’s more orientated towards the luxury side so it’s not a surprise
It’s a little too boat like
It looks weak against corvette, body feels so cheap and plastic
Always appreciating the doriftooo checkkkkkk
どちらかというと、レクサスはLC500よりRC Fの方がスポーツカーって感じですね、車重もLC500より軽いですし。トラックエディションもあるところを見ても、RC Fがレクサスのフラグシップスポーツモデルだと思えますね。
WE LOVE YOU BEST MOTORING
Thats the easiest Touge Battle I have ever watched.
Bro u fuckin beat me to it
ドライサンプが純正ってアメ車やっぱすごいわ
さすがコルベット!凄すぎ!
Love the Hot Version Best Motoring ! Takes me back to the late 90s early 00s when we couldn't wait to get a new dvd release from these guys. DK, MAXX , Nob but where is Kazumi chan???????
Thank you for uploading this w/ english subtitles.
Exactly! I would go weekly to Japantown in San Francsico to look for these
コルベットかっこいい!!
15:40 , imagine that shingo voice
🎶 Cool vibrations 🎶
Real deal! haha
lc500買うの決まってから色んな動画見てたから、これ見れて最高の一言!
ホントカッコいい
おめでとうございます!!
いいなーlc!
2021年モデルですか?
15:40
DK : "I'll destroy you"
_And that's the end_
No one :
Tsuchiya san : this car feels kimochi 😂
5:44
次は90SUPRA&Z4の兄弟対決が見たいです!
B58同士でどう味付けが違うかっての確かに見たいっすねぇ…
@@ynom1295 そうですね!気になります!
コルベットいい音!
Z06じゃないあたりNAで統一してるのかな?
コルベットのタコメーター、青く針の影がフワッと残るの面白いですね。LFAとかRCFみたい。
どっちも素晴らしい車だね!
個人的にはサウンドも素晴らしいコルベットが好きだけど、LCも本当に美しい車だよね👍
国語教師と体育教師のスポーツ対決みたいな企画やなw
国語教師(剣道部顧問)
Very rare to hear compliments about a vette from these guys👍 but the Lexus probably shouldn’t have been here anyway
新しいコルベットでたよねw 相変わらず上は開いてるけど、エンジンの位置はやっぱ変えてきたね。 結構、なりふり構わず感がいいよねw
I wish Best Motoring would give DK a c7 grand sport manual to drive on the touge.
I was thinking the same thing 😂
Forget that, I want to see what he thinks about the C8
Wooowwww 2017 content with eng sub....damn..i almost think today is my birthday....
I love how he instantly starts giggling when he starts driving the C7 lol.
3:40 Show stared.
コルベットならRCFの方が比較対象としては合ってる気がする
とはいえ峠攻めるLCなんて他で見れないからありがたい
RCFも車重重いからあんまり変わらない気がしますよ
出来ればRCFとの対決見たかったなぁー
現行のMRになったコルベットも早く見たいなぁ
ミッドシップコルベットはフェラーリにしか見えません…特にボディカラーが赤だと
すがほのFD3Sさん
なんとなく仰ること分かります^^;
@@匿名希望-p2u 430に無茶苦茶似てますよね
LC500は、高級車のエンジンによく有る仕様で、スポーツカーの激しいピックアップトルクの出方はしないエンジンに成ってますね…低速トルクが有るので、扱いやすく成ってますね。
ランフラットタイヤを外せば、もう少しコーナー良く成りますね。
コルベットの方が、足が良いですね。
I had both corvette c7 z06 and lc500 at the same time.
But i sold my corvette c7 z06 last month because i like more lc500.
I don't need a sport car for track.
スポーツカーって視点では、レクサスは悪い意味で高級感が有り過ぎるかなー。
高級路線のブランドだから、安全で快適で楽でなければならないって縛りを感じる。
たしかにLCは…自分が乗った車で比較するとSC430以上、LFA以下(当然ながら)。
ブレーキのキャパやコーナリング時のヨーのかかり方なんかはスポーツカーですが、キャパが少し低いと感じました
ただ足がしなやかなのでロール等も殆ど感じず、全体的に安心感が高いです。
あんたLFAなったの?
化け物?
ドローン使って、上からの映像も見たいな
比較するならRCFですよね。
LCはsパッケージとL試乗しましたがLの方が良かったです。
見た目むちゃくちゃかっこいいのに乗り心地もよくて最高でした、腰痛くならないし😊
チラッとインプとA45映ったけど、その二台のバトルも見てぇええ
別回でやってますね。
seems like a unfair match up but still cool
LC500 has no chance. its a luxury car with the suspension setup for cruise. heavy and long gear ratio.
Oh my god! English subtitles! YES!!!
私はこのチャンネルが大好きで、非常に面白く、非常に有益で、車の間で偏った意見ではなく、購読したばかりです👍
I'm in love for this channel, very entertaining, very informative, not biased opinion between the cars, just subscribed 👍
Thanks for the Sub
This reminds me of NFS Carbon Canyon Duel.
Once the Corvette is ahead, its game over for the LC.
Nfs carbon canyon duel are really based on touge
15:41 I will destroy you. Me when using the most powerful car against kcars in gran turismo
レクサスLC500を運転したことがあるし、コルベットZ51は所有していたけど、この2台はカテゴリーが違うよね。(^-^;)
LC500はトヨタ系列ではピカイチのシャシーを持っている良い車だけど、峠でバトルするための車じゃない。反対にコルベットはペッタンコで低重心で着座位置も低くて、コーナーリングマシンと言っていい。自分がコルベットに惚れ込んだのも、スポーツドライビングが楽しいピュアスポーツカーだったから。
I could see them liking the c8 corvette
何時も思うけど…
プロドライバーは違うなぁ!
さすがです。🚙
素人が足回りが…云々言うのは恥ずかしい
コルベットスゲーなぁ。アメリカンでワイルドなのに速いし。
まだまだアメ車も捨てたもんじゃないな。
コルベットはマジで良き
I want Best Motoring to compare a Dodge Viper ACR against a Corvette ZR1
Great video!
スポー…スポー…って、どう見分けるの?
曲名モードって?
この状態で売っちゃうって凄いね。
国産最強ラグジュアリースポーツ。
vs
男のロマン。生粋のアメリカンスポーツ。
No doubt, one is a full size lux car based coupe, the other a purpose built sports car with generations of pedigree.. Glad to see the clear lack of bias here, a willingness to admit the truth. We need more of that in more things.
Omg this is initial d!!!!
さすがにラグジュアリースポーツとスーパースポーツが峠バトルでは差が出ますわな。
アメリカンドリームの本旨とはズレるけど、RC-Fの方が勝負にはなったのでは、と思ってしまった。
それは一回乗ってみんとわからん笑
RCはぼんやりとレーシーなイメージだったから意外。
コルベットと比べるならアメリカNSXな気がする
この頃まだ出てないんでしたっけ?
@@1985kyogoku RCもラグジュアリースポーツですかね
Captions at 0:23 😐
bruv he came
Im dying to hear Mr Tsuchiya’s thoughts after driving the c8 or even a c8 zo6 once it comes out.
I adore the C7. I was the most excited about C8 while everyone complained about “roots” and “heritage”, but when it finally landed, I found it paled in comparison. I’m glad GM brought Corvette into the 21st century, but damn that C7 was balanced and gorgeous! Hopefully the C8 Z06 and ZR1s are monsters though.
@@80PercentAshamedOfU don't think people realize they've been planning to make a corvette like the C8 for decades in concept form that they're even present at the corvette Museum as mid engine vettes also and even having a near planned rotary mid engine vette also so they have no reason to be mad at chevy for the making of the C8.
LCは名前の通り「ラグジュアリークーペ」
高級素材による軽量化はされているけど、それ以上にドライバーの安全性と快適性を確保するための静穏材、音響設備、高級感が違う。
レースするのだったら間違いなくコルベットだけど、足がメインとして使うのだったら間違いなくLC500。
いつか買ってみたい。
なにこの最高の対決
コルベットのトラックモードの翻訳が曲名ってなってるけど誰も気づかんかったのか?w
Really unfortunate they don't get to test American cars like the Shelby Mustang GT350R, Dodge Viper ACR, C7 Corvette Grand Sport, and Camaro Z28. Maybe they would have better opinions on American cars if they tried these. I say this as a Honda S2000 owner
I heard even the challenger and charger's suspensions were redesigned in early 2010's to feel much more secure than they used to be.
the lc was more composed than i thought it would be considering its weight and.... intended usage... i thought it would wallow about and be undrivable at the limits in a situation like that.