Ashari Caught LYING about Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyya

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  • @ibmsulaymani
    @ibmsulaymani  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Full debate - th-cam.com/video/FD5-6p_Vqwg/w-d-xo.html

    • @MuhammadAli-mz4pq
      @MuhammadAli-mz4pq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This is the best broken attempt of the Ashariyyah.

    • @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543
      @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Quran 2 : 111 - And they say, "None shall enter Paradise unless he be a Jew or a Christian." **These are their own desires. Say (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم), "Produce your proof if you are truthful."**

    • @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543
      @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      sufi asharis are half shia mutazili, one deny sahaba who compile Quran, other deny Aqida of 4 Mathhab & 6 Hadith imams who compile fiqh & hadith, yet claim Islam or sunna & enjoin ext. taqlid of Quran 9 :31, not Quran 21 :7 to learn dalil like Quran 12 :108 & divide umma & persons from revelation. See quotes of the 4 mathhab imams, a good compilation was made by Sh. Albani.
      Keep in mind the quotes of the preistly sufis who say be like a corpse and not asking questions... maybe that is why deviant Yasir Qadhi though yajuj and majuj were zombies... they hought they were sufis or from the book of mathew. Asharis error on Sifat mixed with sufi error on hadith of dreams in a preistly bida manner compiled over time to their seularism. the kitabis of the umma, or recal the hadith some will follow the greeks and majewsis!
      ---
      They have no dalil to differ one Siffat of Allah for another or aka Siffat Qabr, they interpret like pagans interpret Allah's Siffat as parts or physical idols.
      Quran 53 : 19. Have you then considered Al-Lat, and Al-'Uzza
      , Tafsir ibn Kathir - Ibn Jarir said: They derive name for their idol Al-`Uzza from Allah's name Al-`Aziz.
      Ashari errors on Tawhid Siffat are of old pagans. Quran 2 :143 - we are the middle nation, in running from idolatry, asharis fell in. Allah not speaking is of idolators of Ibrahim (Quran 21 :65), to say Allah isn't over His Arsh is of Firaun/atheism (Quran 40 :37), to say Allah doesn't change denies hadith of intercession, Allah is angriest on Qiyama (Sahih Muslim, Kitab Iman). The Salafis when they say Ashari imply Tashbih to deny the Siffat is clear from their pattern of error matching the pagans of old who affirmed it in a way they do.
      Quran 16 : 60. For those who believe not in the Hereafter is an evil description, and for Allah is the highest description. And He is the All-Mighty, the All-Wise.
      - Ties Allah's Siffat's high description, clearly above tashbih to the hereafter, like Seeing Allah in Quran 75 :23, refutes Jahmiya who error on Allah's Siffat who Asharis follow, who maybe deprived of seeing Allah as a penalty!
      ---
      Other errors, we don't need greek kalam baggage but Islamic qiyas for logic. True Aql conforms with the Naql as Ibn Taymiyyah teaches.
      We don't need Batini sufi preist baggage zhud (Quran 58) but Sunni Zhud for dicipline!
      Ahad hadith are taken in creed as Sh. Albani wrote in his book with that name, even Ibn Hajr and Nawawi were salafi in hadith science in this affair!
      Many of their imams, Imam Ashari himself repented as did Juwaini i think and ghazali but didn't know what to repent to due to the post salaf mihnah situation of the day.
      Sunni scholarship is Athari.

    • @MuhammadAli-mz4pq
      @MuhammadAli-mz4pq 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 Indeed.

    • @-Ahmed8592
      @-Ahmed8592 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 I have a question @False sects like shia are judeo ibn saba made
      I saw a video of a man accusing Ibn Baz ra of using the gospel to explain that Allah created man/adam (as) in His image is this true brother

  • @Lion_Heart14
    @Lion_Heart14 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    The whole Ash'ari creed has taken these concepts to extremism.
    Allah sees,we see,is this not tashbeeh?
    Allah hears,we hear,is this not tashbeeh?
    The layman can never connect to god with all these barriers and mental games.
    Thats why the Ashaairah are basically philosophers and overthinkers with too much time to waste,trying to complicate that which the fitrah accepts.
    Rather,understand these things like the salaf and the sahabah did.
    الاستواء معلوم، والكيف مجهول

    • @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543
      @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Triple A They have no dalil to differ one Siffat of Allah for another or aka Siffat Qabr, they interpret like pagans interpret Allah's Siffat as parts or physical idols.
      Quran 53 : 19. Have you then considered Al-Lat, and Al-'Uzza
      , Tafsir ibn Kathir - Ibn Jarir said: They derive name for their idol Al-`Uzza from Allah's name Al-`Aziz.

    • @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543
      @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ashari errors on Tawhid Siffat are of old pagans. Quran 2 :143 - we are the middle nation, in running from idolatry, asharis fell in. Allah not speaking is of idolators of Ibrahim (Quran 21 :65), to say Allah isn't over His Arsh is of Firaun/atheism (Quran 40 :37), to say Allah doesn't change denies hadith of intercession, Allah is angriest on Qiyama (Sahih Muslim, Kitab Iman). The Salafis when they say Ashari imply Tashbih to deny the Siffat is clear from their pattern of error matching the pagans of old who affirmed it in a way they do.
      Quran 16 : 60. For those who believe not in the Hereafter is an evil description, and for Allah is the highest description. And He is the All-Mighty, the All-Wise.
      - Ties Allah's Siffat's high description, clearly above tashbih to the hereafter, like Seeing Allah in Quran 75 :23, refutes Jahmiya who error on Allah's Siffat who Asharis follow, who maybe deprived of seeing Allah as a penalty!
      ---
      Other errors, we don't need greek kalam baggage but Islamic qiyas for logic. True Aql conforms with the Naql as Ibn Taymiyyah teaches.
      We don't need Batini sufi preist baggage zhud (Quran 58) but Sunni Zhud for dicipline!
      Ahad hadith are taken in creed as Sh. Albani wrote in his book with that name, even Ibn Hajr and Nawawi were salafi in hadith science in this affair!
      Many of their imams, Imam Ashari himself repented as did Juwaini i think and ghazali but didn't know what to repent to due to the post salaf mihnah situation of the day.
      Sunni scholarship is Athari.

    • @abu.ibrahim
      @abu.ibrahim 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's why some of them don't differentiate between hearing, seeing and knowing and believe they are all the same.

  • @fatezero1919
    @fatezero1919 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Minhaji sounds exactly how he tweets 🤣

  • @faizsajjad2328
    @faizsajjad2328 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    “I’m not gonna quote it” lol typical

    • @MuhammadAli-mz4pq
      @MuhammadAli-mz4pq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The Taqiyyah of the Ahul-Kalam is severe.

    • @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543
      @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MuhammadAli-mz4pq sufi asharis are half shia mutazili, one deny sahaba who compile Quran, other deny Aqida of 4 Mathhab & 6 Hadith imams who compile fiqh & hadith, yet claim Islam or sunna & enjoin ext. taqlid of Quran 9 :31, not Quran 21 :7 to learn dalil like Quran 12 :108 & divide umma & persons from revelation.
      ---
      Keep in mind the quotes of the preistly sufis who say be like a corpse and not asking questions... maybe that is why deviant Yasir Qadhi though yajuj and majuj were zombies... they hought they were sufis or from the book of mathew. Asharis error on Sifat mixed with sufi error on hadith of dreams in a preistly bida manner compiled over time to their seularism. the kitabis of the umma, or recal the hadith some will follow the greeks and majewsis!

  • @sfwn9756
    @sfwn9756 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Its simple, you make a claim-you back it with evidence. This ashari couldnt prove it, just like his creed.

  • @waliul280
    @waliul280 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This minhaji lacks manners

  • @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543
    @falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Quran 2 : 111 - And they say, "None shall enter Paradise unless he be a Jew or a Christian." **These are their own desires. Say (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم), "Produce your proof if you are truthful."**

  • @mocro4life5713
    @mocro4life5713 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Istiwa means rising above , being above something , being upon something , sitting on something like kharijah ibn mu'sab said can istiwa be anything than sitting? But not everyone uses the word sitting safest thing to say is he rose above the throne

  • @1mishlenia
    @1mishlenia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Im from Kazakhstan, and in post Soviet Union counties we have the same discussion s with ashareets, just funny to see it in English speaking community

    • @1mishlenia
      @1mishlenia ปีที่แล้ว

      @nuuhh Aleikum As Salam Wa RahmatuLlahi Wa Barakatu Ahi, Amin!

  • @Pilts82
    @Pilts82 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When the wolves eat the sheep, the sheep mocks the other sheep instead of banding together to fight the wolf. Internal divide hurts us all

  • @macthurmenbutist2180
    @macthurmenbutist2180 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can clearly say. The communication between these 2 persons has some sort of tone .
    1 seems unsecure of the other person.
    The other person communicates with lower tone with a small stretch at end. It tell that he is showing submission but then the stretch combines all the behavioral act to playing the pray.
    Pray on top of a trap kinda situation

  • @yammahi
    @yammahi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don’t label yourselves any label except Muslim and always go back to ayat of Quran or Hadith of the prophet and NOT to any opinion of anyone PERIOD

    • @mohamedsharif1488
      @mohamedsharif1488 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The methodology of the Salaf As salih is to always go back to the Ayat and ahadith upon the understanding of the Sahaba and their students. To differentiate ourselves from people who use philosophy we say we follow the manhaj of the Salaf, or Ahlul Hadith, or Salafi. They aren't groups or hizb they are the correct methodologies.

    • @mohamedsharif1488
      @mohamedsharif1488 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Barakallahu feeka, May Allah guide me and you to the truth, your view is correct about going back to the Sunnah. Jazakallahu khairan

  • @HH-bi7yk
    @HH-bi7yk ปีที่แล้ว

    There is nothing pious about this argumentative.

  • @adamdavidson4318
    @adamdavidson4318 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He doesn’t know his creed or group!
    Nor does he know that : rising hovering settling & sitting is the definition of resting .

  • @Azhar_shaikh1
    @Azhar_shaikh1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do you create sectarian divide!

  • @abdulwadood.8
    @abdulwadood.8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Guy on the left is ashari?

    • @haroonq2456
      @haroonq2456 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rather I am quite sure guy on the right is.

    • @abubakr7304
      @abubakr7304 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Guy on left is ahlul sunnah

  • @MohamedShou
    @MohamedShou 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This whole thing is annoying? I don’t hate the Ash’ari there are awesome great scholars from their school just as great awesome scholars from the Ath’ari side
    Are we really having this debate? I swear certain Muslims are stuck in the Middle Ages 🤷🏾‍♂️
    I’m gonna be called deviant, misguided and probably worse “kafir” for saying this 😂

    • @HiTekNomaschenko
      @HiTekNomaschenko 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      This is concerning fundamental matters of belief. Even to this day the correct belief is being attacked by the modern day Jahmiyyah. So the issues need to be addressed.

    • @WU-HU-XI-LIAN-DA_STRIKE
      @WU-HU-XI-LIAN-DA_STRIKE ปีที่แล้ว +1

      so when the asharis worship graves we should be silent and not refute their deviated bid'ah?