The Worst Smash Bros Hot Takes

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  • @ZeRoWondering
    @ZeRoWondering  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1474

    The first episode of Smash Bros Hot Takes is here! Let's rage and get angry at some of the extremely ridiculous comments I got in this video but let's also take a moment to engage in thoughtful discussion. A lot of love went into this one and it's absolutely a series I wanna keep doing, so please watch until the end and drop a like and a comment down below with your thoughts on it! Thank you!

    • @naveenkarthikeyan4744
      @naveenkarthikeyan4744 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Cant wait for u to do more of these types of videos

    • @alexf5627
      @alexf5627 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bruh

    • @mlmooose8206
      @mlmooose8206 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ZeRo I’m loving this already.please keep doing more

    • @ravenous4580
      @ravenous4580 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gotta love it!

    • @IWario1
      @IWario1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi zero

  • @gregle7902
    @gregle7902 4 ปีที่แล้ว +373

    "When you see a notable person whine about something, cry about something." - Zero
    *Shows Leffen*

    • @Blitz_99
      @Blitz_99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Seems legit

    • @jenschneider305
      @jenschneider305 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      I mean leffens personality is just poor

    • @williamwendt6772
      @williamwendt6772 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      what is going on with that mango clip after it?

    • @cileavictoria1229
      @cileavictoria1229 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Funny thing is that I know about Leffen the person primarily via the trainwreck that was him trying out Tekken 7

    • @reddabos
      @reddabos 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      William Wendt Him making fun of Hbox

  • @brianbrady3331
    @brianbrady3331 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1161

    Zero's hot take: "the smash community doesn't suck, the world community does"

    • @Wheat_Thinn
      @Wheat_Thinn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +102

      this is the entire video in a nutshell. *and it hurts this seems to be a very accurate take*

    • @ohlord7547
      @ohlord7547 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      LMFAOooOO
      that the whole thing

    • @wildasiandude432
      @wildasiandude432 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      That’s not a hot take

    • @skyecarbo8367
      @skyecarbo8367 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      People suck.

    • @aaronalexanderortizsantos3585
      @aaronalexanderortizsantos3585 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      It pretty sums up the whole video, smash players don't really know much about the outside world and think these things only happen on smash when it happens everywhere, it happens at school, at work, and specially with social media

  • @mellow6268
    @mellow6268 4 ปีที่แล้ว +828

    Random Person: Smash players are toxic
    ZeRo: We live in a society

    • @Freefork
      @Freefork 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      *GG Strive Potemkin Theme plays* "SOMEDAY I'll... GET LOCKED AWAY!"

    • @Hamble_Gambles
      @Hamble_Gambles 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      yo, you have not even SEEN the war crime that is the pokémon community.

    • @psychedvgc5564
      @psychedvgc5564 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cooper O'Connor Lmao Verlisify is coming

    • @hukkumkhinda497
      @hukkumkhinda497 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      overwatch dps players: hold my sr

    • @Merino33
      @Merino33 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Uhhh...

  • @happycamperds9917
    @happycamperds9917 4 ปีที่แล้ว +258

    “Judgement based on main”
    Has Timmy the Ness main in the thumbnail.

  • @colonchestnut9185
    @colonchestnut9185 4 ปีที่แล้ว +579

    Hot take: ZeRo should start a podcast. I really enjoy his content where he speaks on issues, drama, upsets, the good and bad of the community. His gameplay is always fun to watch, but his speaking on the community is also very eye-opening.

    • @jarl_jake2329
      @jarl_jake2329 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Love the idea. He can also get top level players and just pick their brains about topics.

    • @jarellcervantes1828
      @jarellcervantes1828 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      factssss

    • @CMRandall669
      @CMRandall669 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Have you guys heard of Blast Zone? Its a smash podcast hosted over on the panda global channel with Coney, TkBreezy, and EE where they talk about current situations in the community and give their perspective sure its more from the commentary end buts it entertaining.

    • @Luma_29
      @Luma_29 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jarl_Jake Now THAT is what I never knew I wanted

    • @BAD-vg1fm
      @BAD-vg1fm 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought he already has a podcast

  • @jaredjenson7100
    @jaredjenson7100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +321

    My hot take: ZeRo should make more of these.

    • @YesLegend936
      @YesLegend936 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Thats a Cold Take

    • @im_Spade_
      @im_Spade_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Coldest take I've ever heard lol, this video was godlike actually.

    • @ceeb830
      @ceeb830 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ice cold vacuum of space take

    • @AverageHandle_
      @AverageHandle_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      This take is as cold as Ultimate Kars

    • @imaweeb8417
      @imaweeb8417 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This was a frozen block of dry ice in space take.

  • @Apple_Slices.
    @Apple_Slices. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +564

    ZeRo: Everyone Is Human
    Mark Zuckerberg: *Nervously Sweating*

    • @xolotltolox7626
      @xolotltolox7626 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Have you ever notice that Mark Zuckerberg and Howard Phillips Lovecraft look suspiciously similar?

    • @doosin8696
      @doosin8696 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      MP Zuckraft

    • @MasterZoGaming
      @MasterZoGaming 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      More like
      Mark Zuckerberg: *Nervously Oiling*

    • @justenwhite7288
      @justenwhite7288 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MasterZoGaming The inky mildew grew upon his upper lip.

    • @dmk12345
      @dmk12345 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I tapped "View 2 Replies" and I got 4. 2 = 4 I guess...

  • @noisegavot9473
    @noisegavot9473 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I miss Zero, I hope you can come back. He's insightful, and a good guy. He deserves to be supported.

    • @NotKorbi
      @NotKorbi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      He’s back :D

    • @foiletta1987
      @foiletta1987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      This aged so well i love it

  • @ichirakuramenshop2769
    @ichirakuramenshop2769 4 ปีที่แล้ว +163

    ZeRo: send me your hottakes
    Choctopus: dOnKeY kOnG

    • @crestenor
      @crestenor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I mean, he got half of it right. -Can't do much else more when you have less than half the subscribers of ZeRo.-

    • @jensendavis640
      @jensendavis640 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love my boi Choc

  • @aodhan8710
    @aodhan8710 4 ปีที่แล้ว +367

    Zero you should start a smash podcast. You could have guests on discuss current meta and news in the community, it would be amazing. Keep up the good work bro :)

    • @davimanso4637
      @davimanso4637 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Agreed

    • @zainelcock7331
      @zainelcock7331 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Zero Should also play some other games

    • @wonkydrive5080
      @wonkydrive5080 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Zain Elcock this is the goal as he has mentioned. Not only is it more fun for ZeRo to play other games but it also expands his demographic

    • @josiahkira2912
      @josiahkira2912 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes plz

    • @rem3762
      @rem3762 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yo that sick

  • @Edgeperor
    @Edgeperor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    1:44 I misread that as “if the Meta continued to evolve and people got better at *SD’ing”*

  • @zacklul4188
    @zacklul4188 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1571

    The hottest take is that Sakurai isn’t trying his hardest. Give this man a break.

    • @zamalamahama4894
      @zamalamahama4894 4 ปีที่แล้ว +244

      I honestly really admire Sakurai, he has an amazing work ethic, especially considering the community he takes so much shit from

    • @hicrawl5325
      @hicrawl5325 4 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      When the online will be fixed🙃

    • @kelp755
      @kelp755 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hicrawl fr

    • @MegaSnek97
      @MegaSnek97 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ikr

    • @SasaLunafey
      @SasaLunafey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      Honestly, I hope that he can just get a free Spa day and being able to play all the games he wants without having to rush through it and just enjoy it

  • @Matoi_Makouhou
    @Matoi_Makouhou 4 ปีที่แล้ว +576

    "Worst Smash Bros Takes"
    *44 minutes long*
    Boi this is going to be entertaining

    • @devaxionrl8189
      @devaxionrl8189 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t have 44 fucking minutes, that’s a whole zoom class

    • @Matoi_Makouhou
      @Matoi_Makouhou 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@devaxionrl8189 watch it during online class

    • @drugs1068
      @drugs1068 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I didn’t even notice that the video was 44 minutes

    • @JemTOW
      @JemTOW 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      44 minutes and 4 seconds

    • @BreadyBlane
      @BreadyBlane 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m sorry I can’t like this comment there’s 444 likes, it would be dishonorable

  • @stepheni7471
    @stepheni7471 4 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Hey Gonzales, you can throw any type of click bait my way because I know in the end, as I watch through the video, that you actually give me what I was looking for in the title. Like you said, people clickbait because it works. The "bad" clickbaiters are the ones who write something super attractive in the title but don't deliver. You always deliver. You're wholesome, I learn a thing or two, I'm a lover of smash, and I'll always be watching your videos. Keep doing what you're doing. Much love this way and I hope you read this, because you deserve at least one smile. Cheers bud

    • @jamonelavivanco5994
      @jamonelavivanco5994 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Stephen I thought his name was Gonzalo not Gonzales, at least that's what I remember from the video where he blogged his normal day routine. It was misspelled on his bike and he pointed that out in that video.

    • @verde7595
      @verde7595 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@jamonelavivanco5994 It is Gonzalo. Stephen got it wrong.

    • @kuroxism
      @kuroxism 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jamonelavivanco5994 The positive message is what really counts in my opinion, but accuracy is important to.

    • @Snowballsage
      @Snowballsage 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I like how after everything he said, the first comment says he got his name wrong XD

    • @BBB-pe3ip
      @BBB-pe3ip 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Zero depends on clickbait (and drama) for views. It's kinda sad and gross.

  • @iansullivan2964
    @iansullivan2964 4 ปีที่แล้ว +383

    I unironically love how zero said “pe-des-tle” while talking about how everyone is human. Clearly a real one. Much love for the message here.

    • @DoctorChuck
      @DoctorChuck 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Eletist

    • @samuelgallagher5748
      @samuelgallagher5748 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      DoctorChuck elitist? Or am I Woosh at ur misspelling

    • @samuelgallagher5748
      @samuelgallagher5748 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ian Sullivan it happens when you learn a language through reading, it means you’ve seen it spelled out but not spoken to ya

    • @donkylefernandez4680
      @donkylefernandez4680 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@samuelgallagher5748 That's why ephonics are dangerous. You /need/ vocabulary tests because language is more than oral

    • @FancyNeon
      @FancyNeon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@samuelgallagher5748 it's how zero pronounced it

  • @joshloveday4185
    @joshloveday4185 4 ปีที่แล้ว +146

    Hot take: every new character in smash is considered op at some point, because low-mid tier players are unused to their play styles and struggle to cope with them, we only see the truly op characters when high tier competitive players struggle against them

    • @3.2187_Kilometres
      @3.2187_Kilometres 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      A perfect example for your comment is Hero. People raged about how he was op and ban-worthy when he first came out and now he's barley seen.

    • @joezenta2548
      @joezenta2548 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@3.2187_Kilometres Well as far as I saw (basically leffen and his fanbase) were more like they wanted him banned due to his RNG factor. Most players knew he wasnt that good when all RNG factors were taken away. I think a better example is Ryu in smash 4. Back in the day even ZeRo thought Ryu was the best char in smash 4 (pre-bayo) because he only saw his glaring strengths without considering the glaring flaws.

    • @trashcanonabench7199
      @trashcanonabench7199 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      As someone who also plays fighting games, this is happens in all communities

    • @novida4770
      @novida4770 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not really a hot take

    • @WRAAEEE
      @WRAAEEE 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Except of Banjo Kazooie , he was mid tier since release lol

  • @ShadowSora643
    @ShadowSora643 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    The like to dislike ratio is crazy, good content.

  • @IzzyIsntReal
    @IzzyIsntReal 4 ปีที่แล้ว +342

    The best smelling tournament I’ve been to was a local with like 11 people lmao.

    • @jenschneider305
      @jenschneider305 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ohh thats gotta hurt

    • @kingarth0r
      @kingarth0r 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Technically the best smelling tournament I went wasn't even an official tournament, we just had a 16 player tournament at a birthday party of teens lol.

    • @martyyyyy9579
      @martyyyyy9579 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Best tournament I went to was an online one. Because it was just me in my room with no neckbeards

    • @weirdchamp4601
      @weirdchamp4601 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Martello Garcia lmao

  • @GraemeStanfordWilson
    @GraemeStanfordWilson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +305

    Zero, your care for critical thinking is something that is incredibly valuable to get out, not just for the people within this community, but for anyone. It is exactly the kind of thinking that helps people take responsibility for their perspectives on life and find convictions in the way they've lived. It's the kind of thinking that allows for disagreements to occur, but have no one walk away with hurt feelings. But above all, it's the kind of thinking that can get you and others closer to something true, rather than just something comfortable. It's refreshing to see this kind of thinking anywhere and I really believe you should lay into it even more (maybe you're already planning to).
    Thanks for the video, man, and please keep it up.

    • @haxmode6935
      @haxmode6935 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      or most people lack basic thinking

    • @haxmode6935
      @haxmode6935 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      or are as toxic as I am

    • @danielblack5196
      @danielblack5196 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ZeRo’s overall progression is beautifully admirable. I’m so amazed at the content he’s been producing lately, and this might be the best thing I’ve seen from him yet. His videos are extensive, much less click-baity, and even his English skills have improved significantly. I think it’s a combination of: 1. His decision to quit competitive smash 2. His innate and substantial increase of maturity 3. The fact that his audience is so big now that he can actually talk about what he wants to. I am beyond impressed; especially since his content was so garbage just a year ago. Keep doing what you’re doing, ZeRo. You’re an inspiration.

    • @blueraven4625
      @blueraven4625 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thank you for being the first guy I see to not overuse all these phrases and nonsense memeing. Somebody not grinding for likes and somebody with a brain.

    • @ekene4886
      @ekene4886 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Graeme Wilson great comment.

  • @sixarmedpsycho_9
    @sixarmedpsycho_9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I wonder what his reaction to Steve, Sephiroth, Pyra/Mythra, Kazuya, and Sora were like.

  • @rycalamo2684
    @rycalamo2684 4 ปีที่แล้ว +187

    Zero this entire video:
    “Well yes but actually, no”

    • @silla4645
      @silla4645 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      "It also happens in every other aspect in life"

    • @Creepo_J
      @Creepo_J 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This comment:
      *"Well yes, but actually no."*

    • @seanss
      @seanss 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Actually

    • @Creepo_J
      @Creepo_J 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@seanss no u

  • @sspah6870
    @sspah6870 4 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    Zero: I'm running out of ideas.
    Also Zero: Here's a 44 minute video for this new series I came up with.

    • @zach8667
      @zach8667 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      zero/every other smash youtuber: So anyway, here's me against this 9 year old smash prodigy

  • @psycho9019
    @psycho9019 4 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    I'm a prodigy in painting walls

  • @watts9192
    @watts9192 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Can we just appreciate the fact Zero didn't use himself as the "professional player" example at 20:47

  • @andreazhab
    @andreazhab 4 ปีที่แล้ว +183

    “The more people a community has, the more toxic people it will have”
    Kirby community: *confused poyo*

    • @MrPickleEdits
      @MrPickleEdits 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      The Kirby Community Is Too Nice And Generous... It Feels Inhumane... I LOVE IT!

    • @Tiga_B
      @Tiga_B 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He was reaching hard when he said that. He's too involved to step out and look at the community properly. Smash is full of elitist.

    • @TNinja0
      @TNinja0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We can make it happen

    • @acekechi
      @acekechi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Kirby is holy

    • @hydenmoody4373
      @hydenmoody4373 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Isn't it strange that 2 communities that sakurai created are completely different when it come to toxicity?

  • @brianpearson8552
    @brianpearson8552 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Wow, I genuinely have a lot more respect for you now. I love that you took this series on! Factual analysis on smash and translating it into other topics made for extremely enjoyable content about real problems! MAJOR props and can't wait to see more!

  • @jeffsmith9126
    @jeffsmith9126 4 ปีที่แล้ว +128

    Xenoblade Chronicles X music, ZeRo the legend shining some light on a forgotten game.

    • @NontpNonjo
      @NontpNonjo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      When you end a game on a cliffhanger, then go 4 years without mentioning it, or any chance of a sequel.

    • @winnersinclair2128
      @winnersinclair2128 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      amazing game, makes me wanna pull my wii u out again lol

    • @kamariz3153
      @kamariz3153 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      🎶Black Tar!🎶 Ill see myself out...

    • @justinbowman1342
      @justinbowman1342 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@kamariz3153 🎵 Not even a distant land, where stuck on a whole different planet! 🎵

    • @founderofthenewworld1838
      @founderofthenewworld1838 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Kamari Z is anybody out there? I need a bigger gun

  • @illuminoeye_gaming
    @illuminoeye_gaming 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    2:02 "with bayos biggest win being evo 2017"
    The pain in zeros voice

  • @hipmomma24
    @hipmomma24 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Man when a lot of people got canceled ZeRo wasn't as bad as different people

    • @tortlez4289
      @tortlez4289 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yea, many of the allegations that got him canceled in the first place were proven wrong. Yet Zero has already confirmed he's never coming back to content creation so yea 😐

    • @iehn8846
      @iehn8846 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tortlez4289 :'(

    • @zackywacky2771
      @zackywacky2771 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@tortlez4289 my friend, im here to tell you you're VERY wrong. BECAUSE ZERO IS BACK BABYYYYYYYY

    • @tortlez4289
      @tortlez4289 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@zackywacky2771 YESSIRRR

    • @oliversotir3914
      @oliversotir3914 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tortlez4289 He back

  • @syrupshrike9742
    @syrupshrike9742 4 ปีที่แล้ว +216

    I figured out the perfect a metaphor for casual elitism
    "Competative bike racing takes everything that's good about biking away. Biking's only good if you're going on a fun sightseeing ride on a cool trail"

    • @inansultan5171
      @inansultan5171 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      No one competes in fun sightseeing rides on cool trails.

    • @jenschneider305
      @jenschneider305 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I hate it when i want to play comp online but i get a newbi who wins off how many items they get opposed to spacing reads and combos i have fun when i get beat by a competent player I don’t have fun when i get beat by a assist trophy simp

    • @danield8632
      @danield8632 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Instinct On most days I would agree but if I’m having a bad day and come online to get beaten by a trophy abusing item spamming noob who t bags you while all the items do the work, a rage unlike any know to man dwells within me

    • @69NO
      @69NO 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jenschneider305 arena battles is better than quick play

    • @ameladaptivedaydreamer949
      @ameladaptivedaydreamer949 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@jenschneider305 Well did you know, Smash is a videogame that can be bought for a certain amount of money..... Yeah it's not reserved to competitive players, it's not a casual's fault you got paired up with them, it's Nintendo shitty paring system in the game

  • @Rickxekken
    @Rickxekken 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Hot Take: Smash Ultimate online is pretty good.
    Lol ofc not.

  • @crystalkirby9809
    @crystalkirby9809 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    After this video I realized just how smart ZeRo really is. After every take when he gave his own opinion I was always like "He's SO right." and "He REALLY gets it, wow."

    • @verde7595
      @verde7595 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      not smart enough to not diddle kids apparently

    • @crystalkirby9809
      @crystalkirby9809 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@verde7595 Unfortunately you're right. I would like to say he changed for the better since that incident but I honestly don't know who to trust in this community anymore

    • @Andrey-pc8el
      @Andrey-pc8el 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@crystalkirby9809 well...

    • @jamesmmart1n
      @jamesmmart1n 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@verde7595 funny how that's been proven wrong multiple times

  • @danielleflorack7616
    @danielleflorack7616 4 ปีที่แล้ว +204

    I liked Byleth's reveal when Sakurai had his hands all over the poster and looked up and had a goofy ass smile on his face. I laughed so hard at that. He's a funny ass man

    • @Jay-oh2ff
      @Jay-oh2ff 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Danielle Florack fr people needs to appreciate what they have

    • @jacobblacc3363
      @jacobblacc3363 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      That man deserve a big hug :]

    • @Chaos89P
      @Chaos89P 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It felt to me like he knew that there'd be issues. I honestly don't even remember my reaction toward Byleth; I think I was just confused. But yeah, at the end of the day, he was probably just having fun, albeit at the FE haters' expense. And I'm quite fine with that.

    • @beeperonithe2nd
      @beeperonithe2nd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Man as a Fire Emblem fan I feel guilty for wanting more Fire Emblem characters in Smash Bros. Like Lyndis

    • @xavierwhitcraft1310
      @xavierwhitcraft1310 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Felipe Venegas i want Black Knight

  • @_saitama1566
    @_saitama1566 4 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    18:47 LMAO your editor is a legend

    • @Snowballsage
      @Snowballsage 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      IKR that edit was amazing

  • @bluechicken4831
    @bluechicken4831 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love the fact that Nairo told ESAM to “get off Twitter” because he said that Bayonetta was no longer top-tier because she got nerfed. I think it’s at 4:21

  • @miguela.8929
    @miguela.8929 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    15:00 that touhou reference tho lets go editor team

  • @charlessoper3991
    @charlessoper3991 4 ปีที่แล้ว +159

    Zero: Talks about gatekeeping
    Gatekeeper: Allow me to introduce myself (15:21)

    • @ryder4553
      @ryder4553 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Byleth: Allow me to demonstrate

    • @a2lan123
      @a2lan123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      THIS is peak video editing.

  • @madeinheaven9190
    @madeinheaven9190 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    ZeRo: "as an example i could say color orange is trash."
    Me a color orange main: *CRITICAL HIT* I feel betrayed.

    • @jigglypuff452
      @jigglypuff452 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Orange is so underrated nobody ever uses him

    • @madeinheaven9190
      @madeinheaven9190 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jigglypuff452 say sike right now

    • @tommybond4232
      @tommybond4232 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      As a UTK student I felt this.

    • @madeinheaven9190
      @madeinheaven9190 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Joshua Isaí Pimentel Del Havre Boy, you are going to heaven

    • @flamingchickin
      @flamingchickin 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      orange is my favorite color

  • @Sycholesent
    @Sycholesent 4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    I feel like the Hottest Take was taking a picture of Snake’s ass in Brawl.

    • @_SodaZ
      @_SodaZ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      And also zss 😳

  • @henryreturns1397
    @henryreturns1397 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Time to take those hot takes :
    - Ice Climbers in Brawl is the most restrictive character, pretty much it can beat the entire cast with one single grab, while there are some characters who can give Meta Knight a run of his money, such as Falco , Snake , Marth , Pikachu , ZSS , etc. Ice Climbers just shut down all of these characters, forcing players to pick up Meta Knight JUST to fight Ice Climbers. Also , Ice climbers have one of the most degenerate gameplays on just camp for the chain grab, and they will get rewarded by playing defensive and not approaching, making most of their games into time outs. Personally for me , Brawl has great match ups like Falco vs Meta Knight that can go back and forth, and a lot of the top tiers have their own special unique tech that looks amazing. Like Falco's gatling combo, Marth downthrow into down air, etc.
    - Smash 4 from 2015 to 2018, I would say it has amazing tournaments like Frost Bite, Civil War , 2GG Championships, and the "Sagas". Though the main problem from Smash 4 that I see is that it was incredibly whack and inconsistent, a lot of the times, the best player did not win due to a jank gimmick and also because of rage. Making storylines really inconsistent, and upsets in Smash 4 did not felt like that special. Starting from 2017, at "Smash events" like The Big House and Genesis, it began to have less players participating, and less players going to Smash 4 events.
    - Melee to this day, people are still bringing new things to the table, a game with no patches , with no updates, and the players are still pushing characters , match ups , and techs to it's limit. Take Zain for example, he show to everyone that Marth can beat Hungrybox puff , and that you can win stack tournaments with solo maining Marth. He even took Roy (a low tier) and won a tournament with Top 30 players in attendance. And players like Amsa and Axe can still pushed characters like Yoshi and Pikachu, showing that the game is not just "the same 4-8 characters"

  • @lawfulgaming1578
    @lawfulgaming1578 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is probably one of the best videos I've seen discussing social patterns. I absolutely loved it

  • @StickMaster500
    @StickMaster500 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Something we can all agree on about Smash is that the Smash Community is two sides of the same coin.
    One side are very open and accepting to other people and their opinions on Smash while the other side are absolutely toxic and someone you don’t want to hang out with.

  • @umbre8727
    @umbre8727 4 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    "Free promotion for free!"
    Hum yes, the floor here is made out of floor

    • @AnAnonymousAuditor
      @AnAnonymousAuditor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      *_Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes._*

    • @maxbenard472
      @maxbenard472 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      floor is not a material my guy

    • @umbre8727
      @umbre8727 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@maxbenard472 So true, but a free promotion sure is free

    • @maxbenard472
      @maxbenard472 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@umbre8727 now there you are 100% right. Like an "atm machine".

    • @a2lan123
      @a2lan123 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Captain Obvious ! ( Y E S ! )

  • @leaffinite2001
    @leaffinite2001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I think the smell thing may be a gamer thing. Im pretty ok at hygiene, but i get really really nervous/jittery when im playing fighting games which makes me sweat a lot. But some people i think just don't care and idk why that is.

    • @Lexentale
      @Lexentale 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gamer hygiene is an awful stereotype

    • @leaffinite2001
      @leaffinite2001 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Lexentale did you read my comment?

    • @Lexentale
      @Lexentale 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@leaffinite2001 Yes, I did. I'm just saying that "Gamer hygiene" is a horrible stereotype

  • @lonelygoose3002
    @lonelygoose3002 4 ปีที่แล้ว +245

    This is just 45 minutes of ZeRo saying the world sucks

    • @Creepo_J
      @Creepo_J 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This video should be called, "Give Sakurai a 🅱️ucking break"
      Git gud
      Can't escape inescapable combos....
      well....uhh...your **ooofed** :/

    • @neogeoo9317
      @neogeoo9317 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Is he wrong?

    • @rustylawnmower5822
      @rustylawnmower5822 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      44 minutes

    • @mateusgomes2354
      @mateusgomes2354 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And It's beautiful

  • @cg-rf7lo
    @cg-rf7lo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    "Persons who neglect self-care to the point that they are negatively impacting the tournament may be asked to correct the issue in order to continue in the event."
    That’s an actual enforceable guideline for official Yu-Gi-Oh tournaments. How much worse can the smash community be than that?

    • @LukeJLB
      @LukeJLB 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Attended YCS Atlanta in 2012 and can confirm this rule (at least back then) was not enforced. That convention center STANK.

    • @plastictrumpet6862
      @plastictrumpet6862 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LukeJLB Cause the tournament policy was only updated with this rule on April 3rd, 2019. It has only been enforceable since then.

  • @kevinfoley7667
    @kevinfoley7667 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Zero's video quality just keeps getting better and better. Genuine, informative, and entertaining

  • @jordijosevidalesrueda3453
    @jordijosevidalesrueda3453 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Zero low-key flexing his wisdom in this vid, good commentary amigo

  • @stippadu64
    @stippadu64 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    38:08 you always get me with the background music man. Last time with gravity rush. Now with Catherine's Lamb game between male and female. And the topics you talk about..... i would love to see more of these types of videos and especially the length. Perfect to listen to while your doing something but also good to watch. This is what i would call top tier content

  • @troybaker3556
    @troybaker3556 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Talking about gatekeeping and showing the gatekeeper... 😂😂😂

  • @tristanplummer2468
    @tristanplummer2468 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Sad Kirby had me on the brink of tears 😭

    • @extinctionanimation
      @extinctionanimation 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hate seeing Kirby sad. It just upsets me greatly

  • @Unlucky_Gemini
    @Unlucky_Gemini 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I didn’t even realize the video was almost an hour long, I was so invested and genuinely pleased at the level of discussion. Keep this coming!

  • @Dellime
    @Dellime 4 ปีที่แล้ว +297

    for the whole “gamers are awkward take” that just further proves your take on how society judges you based on interests and possessions. as someone who is more of an athlete than a gamer, but plays both sports and video games a lot, another reason gamers are awkward is because of these stereotypes being put on them

    • @cileavictoria1229
      @cileavictoria1229 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Nah, what they were referring to isn't that. This isn't a "gamers are awkward" thing, this was something a lot deeper, complicated, and part of human nature.

    • @cythetic-7271
      @cythetic-7271 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      didn't ask ngl

    • @haxmode6935
      @haxmode6935 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      aww, I see you lack in critical thinking! People who don't like talking to people tend to be more likely be a weeb/gamer, stereotypes have nothing to do with it

    • @Dellime
      @Dellime 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Cilea yeah there is definitely more to it than I mentioned in this comment, but i wanted to at least mention this because I do feel like it applies here

    • @altokia2724
      @altokia2724 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@haxmode6935 what you said is literally a stereotype. I see you lack in thinking.

  • @FaeroN
    @FaeroN 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    This is actually the first time I heard you admitting that you can be a whiny person and I have high respect for that. Although I think that your competitive self is definitely part of the reason why the extreme Bayonetta hate was so widely spread among the Smash 4 community, I do think, at the same time, your personality and way of thinking outside of a competitive scene is much more mature and considered, which I personally enjoy about you.
    So at the end of the day, I always agreed with you quitting competitive gaming not because I hated to see you play(the complete opposite actually), but I really did not like how the competition affected your opinion and therefore you as a person. For me personally, you evolved by stopping to compete and I know many people will probably disagree, but this is just the way I saw it over all these years.

  • @tumaien4188
    @tumaien4188 4 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    "Smash tourneys are the smelliest"
    Definitely has never gone to a ygo tournament LMAO

    • @chadadams2338
      @chadadams2338 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ZeRo used to be a huge fan actually, I'm sure he's aware LOL

    • @yagirlmayalazarus6713
      @yagirlmayalazarus6713 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Chad Adams I think he was more referring to Jwittz who made the tweet.

    • @oatmealmangd
      @oatmealmangd 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      LowerTierGod speaking of tournements how old do u habe to be to join tournements? (Ssbu)

    • @chadadams2338
      @chadadams2338 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oatmealmangd you can go at any age, just look on Facebook for your town and you'll be able to find them

  • @andrewvavrunek
    @andrewvavrunek 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like how people in Smash 4 were like Bayo is broken, but Melee legit is dominated by Fox and Falco.

  • @yumes_studio
    @yumes_studio 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This was really insightful, you have a lot of wisdom and an open minded view towards the Smash and gaming community as a whole. Especially at 41:56 this is so true with social media, heck even the gimmick accounts that Alpharad talked about. I really enjoy this series already!

    • @moonsquid9310
      @moonsquid9310 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      holy crap i didnt notice the video was so long until i clicked on the timestamp

  • @imcohencohen
    @imcohencohen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    19:05 ZeRo’s binge-watching of business TH-cam channels really shining here

  • @9Tensai9
    @9Tensai9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    15:02
    Reimuu.
    Aight, it's not the first time we see or hear 2hu here. Give this man a raise zero.

  • @valkoln8436
    @valkoln8436 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Me:
    Sees thumbnail without having a switch
    Also me:
    Oh why smash 4....

  • @sizzledan31
    @sizzledan31 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Hot Take: Sonix is the hypest Sonic player on the planet, but nobody cares because they remember the 3 times he timed someone out and conveniently forget all of the nasty reads, punishes and conversions he gets off of one hit during a set. He plays more aggressively than 6WX, Ken and Wrath but nobody cares because they see a Sonic onscreen and automatically assume that he's camping.

    • @xcaleavorz
      @xcaleavorz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This. Sonix is such a good player but most people hate him for some camping

    • @yeetogaming9628
      @yeetogaming9628 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's probably not a good thing if your most recognized clips are of you camping lol

    • @zynstein
      @zynstein 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yeetogaming9628 that's not even his fault.
      It's just the way people are, especially with characters that are considered traditionally campy, they fixate on the negatives for the sake of finding something to complain about.

  • @davidolinger3948
    @davidolinger3948 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Why is Zero straight up giving us great sage wisdom, I thought I was getting a clickbait little Timmy video.
    Goog work man, keep it up

  • @jonathanwalls9031
    @jonathanwalls9031 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Alternate title: Life Lessons with ZeRo

  • @thelivelysnivy83
    @thelivelysnivy83 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think the reason characters are so hard to ban in smash is because they each have some sort of legacy outside of smash unlike most other fighting games. Each character has a fanbase with people's favorites

  • @daewoo9835
    @daewoo9835 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    July 16, 2021 I miss zero

  • @amiteea
    @amiteea 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    “You can have a smash character as your profile pick and say you are part of the community”
    *shows picture of Fiora as profile pic*

  • @quilahnmena5247
    @quilahnmena5247 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    23:59 Damn ZERO be providing those hot life takes... in all seriousness though, it really do be like that.

  • @ef_natto
    @ef_natto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really hated that the video ends, it was really interesting, thanks for the content Zero

  • @octobrot7591
    @octobrot7591 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This should be a podcast series. Petition for zero to make one and advertise it

  • @dogefan12349
    @dogefan12349 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    ZeRo: "Ooh, I burned myself on that hot take."

  • @aleksanderboardwine367
    @aleksanderboardwine367 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    19:58
    "Free promotion for free!"
    These kinds of things always get me lol.

    • @spreadwuvokay
      @spreadwuvokay 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Give him a break man English isn't his first language lol

  • @CrimsonArzuros
    @CrimsonArzuros 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    "There's no community that has had no drama."
    ARMS Community: *Allow us to introduce ourselves.*

    • @rycalamo2684
      @rycalamo2684 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Until they decided to come to smash lol

    • @CrimsonArzuros
      @CrimsonArzuros 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@rycalamo2684 I mean yeah, but that's just the character. The community has just been quietly really happy about it and they also appreciated the fact that it brought attention to their game.

    • @SeriousStriker
      @SeriousStriker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      That's a community that doesn't exist.

    • @CrimsonArzuros
      @CrimsonArzuros 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@SeriousStriker It's very small. Maybe 50-100 people.

    • @KageumiUmikage
      @KageumiUmikage 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s because they’re all asleep

  • @ilovemetaknight5384
    @ilovemetaknight5384 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I like this new format.
    Next time I'll bring popcorns

  • @n3isko
    @n3isko 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "Melee players hate brawl because it wasn't melee 2" Totally agree

    • @beetlethebard7624
      @beetlethebard7624 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same with some smash 4 players and ultimate

  • @samslater6147
    @samslater6147 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I think I need to take a walk after the straight facts Zero just spit.

  • @Galacticdonutt
    @Galacticdonutt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Really missing your content man,hope all is well! Saludos

  • @PenguinWithInternetAccess
    @PenguinWithInternetAccess 4 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    My hot take is
    Most multiplayer Nintendo games are great ways to end some friendship

    • @ahmadkazan7994
      @ahmadkazan7994 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mario kart be like:

    • @MegaSnek97
      @MegaSnek97 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Mario Party in a nutshell

    • @mr.personguy4959
      @mr.personguy4959 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That is just wrong you said MOST Nintendo games ruin friendships in true ALL Nintendo games ruin friendships

    • @huekeks2231
      @huekeks2231 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mr.personguy4959 Really? Amiibo Festival destroys friendships? 🤣😂🤣😂

    • @epsilon1372
      @epsilon1372 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You can’t end friendships in Mario Kart if you don’t have any friends to begin with

  • @rockyr.saints5137
    @rockyr.saints5137 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Ah, this is the "a lot of aspects in life" episode.

  • @seffviklysif8893
    @seffviklysif8893 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Queue the Guilty Gear Strive theme clip: *Man Lind knew that they cannot change S O C I E T Y"* .
    In all seriousness, I just recently found out that people legitimately can't tell when people are being fakes like this. It blows my mind that humanity is this... hopeless. Seeing people like you just completely understand this stuff gives me a little bit of that hope back.
    Keep being awesome, Zero.

  • @BeeLy1011
    @BeeLy1011 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Take: People would've been more fine with Byleth if he wasn't the finale of FP1.

    • @jabariwiththebois5765
      @jabariwiththebois5765 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah I think if he/she was shoved in the midle people would be more fine with itn

    • @baker7280
      @baker7280 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They should have ended it on banjo

    • @jabariwiththebois5765
      @jabariwiththebois5765 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@baker7280 Terry was sooo amazing tho. Representing SNK as a whole and bumping the soundtrack up with more 50 tracks

    • @rattyxoxo7397
      @rattyxoxo7397 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think they should've been released as Joker, Byleth, Hero, Terry Banjo

    • @jabariwiththebois5765
      @jabariwiththebois5765 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rattyxoxo7397 That's a really cool order!

  • @jeh8944
    @jeh8944 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love how the thumbnail Is TIMMY with NESS

  • @JC101_Official
    @JC101_Official 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    40:24 I see that Dragalia Lost BGM there in the final segment of the video. Your editors have great taste in music!

  • @Breadsandwich1
    @Breadsandwich1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Imagine timmy is just zero trolling again...

  • @TheOnlyDTM
    @TheOnlyDTM 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    5:49 LMAO the cut to leffen when he said snake 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @ethanpooper6678
      @ethanpooper6678 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They really slamming Leffen without saying his name once in the video

    • @crush5351
      @crush5351 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ethan Pooper he said leffen’s name once actually lmao

  • @jeremyshartzer261
    @jeremyshartzer261 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Hot take: It's been too long since little Timmy destroyed the hopes and dreams of players around the world.

  • @SonicTheCutehog
    @SonicTheCutehog 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Falcon Punch was in Smash before the F-Zero anime came out.

  • @VeeZzz123
    @VeeZzz123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Summary: "We live in a society"

    • @BruhNqzv
      @BruhNqzv 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      well said

  • @kittentamer2164
    @kittentamer2164 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I miss ZeRo.

  • @audsta11
    @audsta11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Void’s dog walked in like “Tf you got going on.”

  • @71cyber87
    @71cyber87 4 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    "They get free promotion for free"
    ZeRo-2020

    • @nicoderooij4912
      @nicoderooij4912 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      A typo. haha?

    • @hudde814
      @hudde814 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hmm yes the floor here is made of floor

  • @SN-fc7bc
    @SN-fc7bc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hot take: It's hard to believe young Zero did what he did. He has improved over the years, especially with this video, but It's not something you can just scratch off. You can't just hide from this.

  • @gthefatgamer4194
    @gthefatgamer4194 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    People on TH-cam: first
    Zero’s editors: hahahhahaah

  • @duwang2324
    @duwang2324 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’m in love with how he says awful and gauge

    • @duwang2324
      @duwang2324 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I also like how he says elitist

    • @duwang2324
      @duwang2324 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oml he said pedestal and I felt that

    • @duwang2324
      @duwang2324 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      To be clear I’m not making fun of him, I just absolutely love his accent

    • @fffinisher6298
      @fffinisher6298 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah same it’s cool. Too bad he’s gone :/

  • @TheArgentPrince
    @TheArgentPrince 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is why I'm glad I go to a very small local tourney where I can say whatever I think without getting backlash

  • @Shadogh
    @Shadogh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    11:39 the dog was like wtf am i witnessing

  • @alicon852
    @alicon852 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    23:47 JEEZ I WANTED TO HEAR ABOUT SMASH NOT HAVE CRIPPLING SELF DOUBT ABOUT MY EVERY ACTION

  • @SsNoir
    @SsNoir 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watching this video in its entirety has given me so much respect for ZeRo, him as a creator, and his intellect as a human being.

  • @InoueMizuhashi
    @InoueMizuhashi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    "Every community tends to be big, tends to have a lot of Good Apples, and a lot of Bad Apples."
    #Reimu4Smash eX Di

    • @shinkirisame7211
      @shinkirisame7211 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      #Reimu4Smash i agree 10000000000x over

    • @Endershock1678
      @Endershock1678 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@shinkirisame7211 She absolutely deserves it. One of the oldest if not the oldest still running indie game franchise in the world (especially one that is still indie), massive fanbase in Japan, huge cultural phenomena, huge western and Japanese following, and represents a genre not in Smash, the bullet hell genre (no, Sans doesn't count, and even then is still kinda RPG, while Touhou is just straight up bullet hell).

    • @shinkirisame7211
      @shinkirisame7211 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Endershock1678 and fighting game based too. Don't forget that.

    • @Endershock1678
      @Endershock1678 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shinkirisame7211 I don't count the fighting games, since ZUN didn't really make them, they were made by Team Shanghai Alice, but they are great inspiration for a moveset.

  • @Ldavis_
    @Ldavis_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I really liked your talks about those hot takes, it was very interesting and hearing some of those topics definitely made me see a few things in a different light!