@@sakurazoe7848 Although the playwright and the director, as well as much of the production crew, are the same, the whole cast have different actors in the TV series (versus the movie).
No one form of music is "better" than the other. Music is beautiful and I love when it all works together. I'd love to see an orchestra made up of traditional instruments from all over the world. Music is harmony. It should bring harmony, not conflict.
Not in China, it's not. It's all about "struggle" there. Everything's a competition, everyone's an enemy. You're either a winner or a loser, all that talk about equity through communism only made people strive to be "more equal" than others. Even an epidemic can be used to cause strife, let alone music.
Trying to achieve betterment is a good thing, it keeps humanity progression~ how you perceive the journey towards advancement it's your own subjective opinion, it can be a "struggle", or a "learning journey". The journey can strengthen your spirit, or wreck havoc in your life. Sometimes, the perception of "winner" and "loser" is in your own mind, or you care too much of what other people are saying about you.
The previous one was much better in overall composition and cinematography, but this one shines in how it finally, actually plays like a goddamn Chinese movie. The scene is about traditional Chinese instruments vs Western instruments, but the previous one played a western classical music, the Flight of the Bumblebee by Rimsky-Korsakov. The cincher instrument, Suona, was merely played as a winning move, did some bird sounds, and then moved forward with the music. The "traditional Chinese music" part was gone as a result. Here however, they integrated the "Summer" part of Four Seasons by Vivaldi as an orchestral backing to the distinctively Chinese melody played by the duet of that Dizi (I think, idk much about trad Chinese instruments) and Suona, and they became the prominent sound that eventually broke the Western team's concentration, and ended the whole symphony. Not with just a "jumpscare", metaphorically speaking, but an actual element to the music. Anyways, I still think the Suona can me matched with a Kazoo, but who would bring that to a classical music play, right?
Yeah, and I think their viewpoint of classical Western instruments is why they lose. They're viewing them as these great, classy items that are inherently better because they've been used for such great compositions, so they overlook a lot of Western instruments that don't fit that mold. The students with the Chinese instruments are used to being viewed as having lesser instruments, so they're more willing to look outside of classy instruments and seeing their virtues. Neither sides instruments are inherently better, and there's nothing wrong with how either side played
You can not compare Western and Asian music! They are very different! I listened to a lot of different music, both Western classical and Chinese traditional, but ... BUT! No one Western musical instrument that could repeat the simultaneous "smoothness, lightness, viscosity, tenderness, sharpness" in sound, such instruments as Gutsin or Erhu! This video showed it well! Absolutely different cultures and styles of thinking!
The trumpet like instrument with high pitch is called “Sorna”（唢呐）.I'm glad to see them shocked by it. We Chinese call it “Gangster Instrument” FOR A REASON.
This is so fun. The original music battle inspired me to watch the film (which I adored) and this is a very fun new take on the battle with a different song. I feel like the western violins drown out the Chinese instruments too much in this (I could hardly hear the guzheng or the erhu except periodically), but the dizi and suona really shine. Thank you for sharing!
I just watched the original version, this is so much better but i wish that they kept the ending where the gentleman said "It's refreshing, a joining of the East and West. Why put up a gate? This is a hall of arts, why make it look like a prison? Take down the gate."
Idk much about musical instruments but I do know that this was really amazing. I loved how the traditional Chinese instruments get their own section and the whole melody did not feel like a western song but had obvious traditional Chinese elements (at least that’s what it felt like to my amateur ears😃) I liked this version better than the previous one. The overall song and also how the traditional Chinese instruments group won as a whole and not because of “jump scare” as someone else mentioned in their comment
Its not chinese instruments its asian and as i can see atleast 3 of the instrument from the traditional instruments are from mongolia there could be more, no offence tho im just telling
I think the other one is better since it introduced the instrument one at a time and when they put the camera on either side you hear their instruments more clearly then the other team
You're right. The folk musicians are able to win this battle because they are able to improvise and change the tune however they want while the western musicians are too structured by following only the melody their sheet provides and the conductor's instructions
For the first time I left my heart in a war... I listen to every song genre, in every instrument because what matters is that it pareles with your soul. This song parallels in itself... It's awesome.
Ok, may I say how this moved me so deeply it made me cry? Something about... This feeling of what they are fighting for, how this sounds so different and beautifully, and how they could show their value when everyone else told them the opposite, it warmed my heart. As someone from Latin America this resonates with me, because my country is very very mixed and yet it sometimes feels like we lost something, from our tradition, from our pre-colombian ancestors, so this makes me feel: both our sides are beautiful and valuable, and they deserve to be recognized equally.
You’re not alone; I’m a violinist raised on western classical pieces, and I also cannot sit through this without crying. There’s something so beautiful and innovative about having a staple of western music (Vivaldi’s Summer) be transformed into an orchestral backing track for this Chinese flute soloist and eventually the Suona.
I keep laughing after watching Twoset Violin reacting on this and its ancestor. It's very entertaining and interesting to see actual musicians reacting on this. Once you see it, it's actually funny rather than amazing.
@@Liangjielittle_ Here is the 1st one where they reacted on the original movie: m.th-cam.com/video/PM-R8Kcw9r8/w-d-xo.html And here's their reaction on the remake: m.th-cam.com/video/TqzVL3crXT4/w-d-xo.html
Even without their reaction, it's still pretty bizarre. I mean, what kind of teacher lets them fight like this. What kind of observing students takes this seriously? It's quite a bizarre drama.
I think this one was better. First of all, the flight of the bumblebee is kinda overused and as fast as it is, it really is not THAT difficult because it's basically a modified scale. Second, the original version seemed more about fighting with each other's equivalent musical instruments while this version seems like a fight between the classical western music system vs the traditional/folk Chinese music system. The thing is a lot of the western orchestral system is, for lack of a better word, very systemized to the extent that sometimes they cannot seem to play a piece without strictly following the rules (speaking of which, this is less of a problem in even western folk music...or SIKE JAZZ music), whereas traditional Chinese music system (or any nation's traditional folk music for that matter) retains an element of improvisation that they can manage to break or bend the rule, and this is what the traditional Chinese music students used to their advantage, making the victory seem more "full" and extensive. But both versions are fun regardless. I always love some west vs local tradition stories.
this was what was missing in the original version. this drove the narrative better. i mean, both performance were good. but this one carried the story better for doing this.
I like this music arrangement better. It is a test of a combination of improvising and ensemble-playing skill. Here's what I think is happening: The competition began with a coin toss. Since the Western ensemble won, they started the challenge in a Concerto format: where the ensemble moves between group-solo-group (repetitively) format. th-cam.com/video/Ytw99mkVZ8I/w-d-xo.html. The solo parts are technically very challenging (esp on a violin). The Western ensemble were supposed to play the group (tutti) part while the Chinese ensemble attempt the solo parts (and hopefully screw up). The Er hu took the 1st solo part and unfortunately for the Western ensemble, she improvised a new tune instead and changed the character and speed of the original tune. The Western ensemble had to find a way to break back into group (tutti). But since they were not used to the new tune, the pianist quickly analysed the structure and successfully broke into their tutti section. Later, the Suona took over the solo part and forced the western instrumentalists to accompany much longer than they are comfortable to. Again, he changed the original tune's character and speed. The Western ensemble were forced into the repeated notes to keep the rhythm up their accompaniment role. Traditional Western ensemble/orchestra play a harmony when accompanying. And the harmony affects the structure. The Suona took the tune so far out till it crushed with the harmony of the Western ensemble. They were soon thrown into confusion and stopped. Since the traditional Chinese ensemble often play the same tune together, they simply did that and survived. Without leaving a gap for the Western ensemble to join, the Chinese ensemble suddenly jump back into the original version of the tutti part again very quickly and conclude the piece before the Western ensemble could react.
That's a very good interpretation. What actually happened was that both sides hate each other a lot mainly because the western music students look down on the folk music students. The folk music students are annoyed by it while the western music students don't want the folk music students to drag their reputation. They made a bet to settle the scores between both sides. Through the flip of a coin, they will decide which team will start. The battle is to challenge which side's music presence is stronger and which side can keep up. Western music team starts. The folk music is able to follow the western music and they start a somewhat tugbof war over the influence of their instruments. All is normal until the folk music team started to change the tune which startles the western music team, which we could clearly see their music influence decreasing. The leader of the western music team was able to find a pattern to retake control until the folk music team changed the tune again. The music slowly shifted from something that sounded Western to something that sounds more Chinese. They are able to avoid traps and didn't give a chance for the western music team to continue. It then lead to western music team's defeat. Basically, what you said is what somewhat happened in this scene. There is a reason why the western music team lost this battle. The folk music team did somewhat cheat, by already knowing what the other team is going to play. Though, they probably didn't have as much time as the western students who already practiced this music sheet for years, as stated by one of the western music student that it is their favorite music sheet. However, the folk music students are able to study both kinds of music to determine the strong and weak points, which the western music students didn't as they are overly confident about their musics. Through their studies, they can determine that the composition of western and folk music is very different : western music is semi-toned while the folk music is full-toned, making the possibility for the western music team being able to catch up and switch the tune easily and that folk music team won't be able to keep up unless they rehearse the same music sheet that the western music team uses. What is even more difficult is that the level of professionalism for each student is different. The instruments they play are made to most of the time, play in solo. The team will then have a hard time to unify the instruments' tune and composes one of the biggest problem they have, which they realized when they started rehearsing. Another problem they found was that the western music were made to have an echoeing system, which can easily crush the folk team's tune. They are able to cover all of those problems because of one of the strong point the folk music team has : improvisation. The western musicians mostly are seen with a conductor who leads the orchestra. The western music students weren't taught to make arrangements on their own. Because of such a structure, it is easy for them lose control of the tune of the structure is broken, more so when they are too used to following the directions of the conductor. Folk musicians use their instruments as a form of conversation, which is why they are able to keep up with the western team music with very little time of rehearsal as they basically only need to memorize and practice the sheet once
@@yukishiro3287 i dropped over to TwoSetViolin's The Remake of this Famous Musical Scene is Even Worse. I like them very much. But it seems like classical-trained musicians can play by their own rules only. I actually like the dissonance and counter-melody that the folk musicians introduce into the music. What's an echoing system? Is it call and imitate?
@@nutcrackers25 Echoeing system refers to how the instruments resonate very loudly. You could see the difference in material made by for each side's instruments. Because the classical instruments resonates better than traditional instruments, it's easy for the classical musicians to suppress the traditional's sounds
Remakes are made all the time. It gives another generation the opportunity to shine. Saying that, I myself despise remakes. Seldom are they as perfect.
Wow! I've never seen anything like this. I am totally wowed by both sets of instruments. I hope to find more videos like this and learn more about the traditional Asian instruments Half of them I did not even recognize. THANKS for sharing.... and educating. ((Hello from TEXAS))
красиво... все восхищаются произведением, но никто не замечает стены что воздвигаю те кто возомнил что может вершить наши судьбы... искуство вечно, стены нет
во время войны, слышна лишь музыка пушек! так мы устроены! и кто играет такую музыку, тот и строит стены, через которые не слышна музыка, их не могут преодолеть спортсмены, и деятели искусств!
@Musliha Sadique Actually, they only showed the ensemble duel. In the sort of opening act, the girl also played guzheng, which initiated a response from the western classical ensemble and the harp player comes in to play. This clip only started after that opening act
IMHO, music can be summed up in one word..., Passion Regardless of the format/style of music that any artist plays, the more passion they put into it, the more passion the listener feels.
This is de new version? Remake?. I remember that I watched the movie the original version. But after I could to know that movie "our shiny days" had other movie and one extension serie. What is this version? Really is very good 😊❤️ thanks.
The last instrument唢呐 Suo Na is not usually so soft. It was the ultimate weapon to beat Western in the movie and the tone was very high and sound was very bright then turn the whole trend away. Here is very ambiguous. The arrangement here is not for ordinary people maybe for professionals to tell how the traditional orchestra won.
This is the first time seeing this I have no ear for music cannot carry a tune one of the most beautiful things I have ever seen or heard can't wait to hear more keep up the good work
Nunca creí que podría enamorarme más de la música... Me acabo de dar cuenta de que estaba en un error, si puedo encontrar este arreglo sin las voces me iré al más allá feliz ( si es que se puede ir más feliz de lo que ya estoy).
Lol this is so very funny from an amateur's perspective. It's about how they are fighting for dominance but they are actually complementing each other so well.
Коротко о ролике. Была проделана хорошая работа. Все молодцы, и дети-музаканты, и звукорежиссёр, особенно режиссёр. Который смог создать национальную линию с уклоном в патриотизм, что явно лучше любого наносного извне. Это легко проследить по реакции людей в комментариях. Это правильно в рамках государства в котором живёшь, но такое искусство ни когда не будет оценено на мировом уровне. На унижении чего либо (особенно культуры других стран также имеющих тысячелетнюю историю), не получится громко заявить о себе, не поймут. До просмотра этого ролика, даже не подозревал что есть такой фильм. В нем играют пожалуй самые известные музыкальные инструменты, другие, не такие известные, нет. Но ведь есть такие, что имеют такое богатое звучание, что заткнут любой из известных инструментов, и не важно что на нем сыграют, главное это мастерство музыканта. А вот об этом ни одного слова в комментариях нет. Именно на мастерстве музыкантов и должен был быть создан контраст в фильме, а не одного, который якобы обыграл всех (что странно видеть от китайцев, где сила страны построена на единстве народа). Но, это моё мнение. Вы не обязаны быть с ним согласны. Все.
Some parts, specifically the 'pipe' instruments, I can imagine matching very well with their western 'counterparts' to the point it plucks something not hearing it there.
They're always playing the classical music😁 why didn't they have a battle on traditional music too?😅 I wished to hear they battle for a traditional music piece too but oh well, they still sound beautiful 😍
We need a show like this with a traditional instrument band, comprised of all non electronic instruments vs an all synth and electronic band, so many lil synths out there and electronic instruments for the same reason. Folks dont take electronic music seriously
wow i love that one and they are many student playing music that make the song an amazing.This the best song i see it in my life . I think they learn that in many years this is amazing me i can learn it . THAT AMAZING!
This so wonderful! Competition in the pursuit of arete! What noteworthy kids! Let's old farts unite East/West, North/South to give them a better world than we have so far! Hm... I don't care whether anyone else is inspired by these kids, I'm going to ride for a better future for them even if no one is with me -- but everyone is welcome to come along!
Kenapa harus bersaing keduanya bagus, aku sangat menikmati pertunjukan keduanya baik yg instrumen modern maupun instrumen klasik, apalagi klo dikombinasikan makin indah pastinya ❤️
Тут есть комментарий, что музыка должна играть всеми инструментами со всего мира, музыка должна нести мир, а не войну, должна объединять людей в едином сознании, а не разделять их в духовной деградации. Да, неплохо бы создать единый мировой симфонический оркестр, синтез всех мировых культур, инструментов и образов, исполняемых лучшими исполнителями и просто любителями-виртуозвми, добавив туда ещё тяжёлой музыки, фолка, электронной музыки и ещё множество разных стилей. Если давать концерты такого оркестра по всему миру в разных консерваториях и залах, народы мира объединяться в один. Войны прекратятся. Людям просто будет не до ссор и конфликтов, они будут слушать такую музыку, на мировых закулисных фашистов им просто будет наплевать.
для того что-бы подобное случилось, все люди должны иметь такую душу, чтобы слушать и слышать.. а это к сожалению не так частно встречающееся явление..
Episode 23 of the 2019 TV series version of “My Shiny Days”, a remake of the 2017 movie of the same name by the same production crew.
I feel like they did a better job on the movie, but then they probably had better funding
Are they actual the same group of people?
@@sakurazoe7848 Although the playwright and the director, as well as much of the production crew, are the same, the whole cast have different actors in the TV series (versus the movie).
Can I stream it somewhere?
То то смотрю знакомый сюжет.
No one form of music is "better" than the other. Music is beautiful and I love when it all works together. I'd love to see an orchestra made up of traditional instruments from all over the world. Music is harmony. It should bring harmony, not conflict.
Not in China, it's not. It's all about "struggle" there. Everything's a competition, everyone's an enemy. You're either a winner or a loser, all that talk about equity through communism only made people strive to be "more equal" than others. Even an epidemic can be used to cause strife, let alone music.
@@Cheonging101 I know, I lived there for a while. Just because that's what they push doesn't mean it's the right way though.
Whole-heartedly agree. Same philosophy can be applied to many forms of entertainment, such as comedy.
Trying to achieve betterment is a good thing, it keeps humanity progression~ how you perceive the journey towards advancement it's your own subjective opinion, it can be a "struggle", or a "learning journey". The journey can strengthen your spirit, or wreck havoc in your life. Sometimes, the perception of "winner" and "loser" is in your own mind, or you care too much of what other people are saying about you.
until you fight for budget from the school board.
The previous one was much better in overall composition and cinematography, but this one shines in how it finally, actually plays like a goddamn Chinese movie. The scene is about traditional Chinese instruments vs Western instruments, but the previous one played a western classical music, the Flight of the Bumblebee by Rimsky-Korsakov. The cincher instrument, Suona, was merely played as a winning move, did some bird sounds, and then moved forward with the music. The "traditional Chinese music" part was gone as a result.
Here however, they integrated the "Summer" part of Four Seasons by Vivaldi as an orchestral backing to the distinctively Chinese melody played by the duet of that Dizi (I think, idk much about trad Chinese instruments) and Suona, and they became the prominent sound that eventually broke the Western team's concentration, and ended the whole symphony. Not with just a "jumpscare", metaphorically speaking, but an actual element to the music.
Anyways, I still think the Suona can me matched with a Kazoo, but who would bring that to a classical music play, right?
Congratulations on the knowledge, a comment rich in detail 💓💓💓💓👏👏👏👏👏
This explanation makes me appreciate the direction they went much more :)
WHY AM I CRYING AT YOUR EXPLANATION!!!!! It's glorious!
Half that stuff went over my head but....
It was nice to know the analytical part of the face-off
Yeah, and I think their viewpoint of classical Western instruments is why they lose.
They're viewing them as these great, classy items that are inherently better because they've been used for such great compositions, so they overlook a lot of Western instruments that don't fit that mold.
The students with the Chinese instruments are used to being viewed as having lesser instruments, so they're more willing to look outside of classy instruments and seeing their virtues.
Neither sides instruments are inherently better, and there's nothing wrong with how either side played
哈哈哈哈
嗩吶一出手，立馬就送走。”
“千年琵琶，萬年箏，一把二胡拉一生，嗩吶一響全劇終。”
“初聞不知嗩吶意，再聽已是棺中人
我快笑死
The western eunuch flute, or mirliton, needs to come back into fashion. No, I have no idea why the French called it that.
You can not compare Western and Asian music! They are very different! I listened to a lot of different music, both Western classical and Chinese traditional, but ... BUT! No one Western musical instrument that could repeat the simultaneous "smoothness, lightness, viscosity, tenderness, sharpness" in sound, such instruments as Gutsin or Erhu! This video showed it well! Absolutely different cultures and styles of thinking!
The trumpet like instrument with high pitch is called “Sorna”（唢呐）.I'm glad to see them shocked by it.
We Chinese call it “Gangster Instrument” FOR A REASON.
Yg terakhir dimain kan bukan
Indeed
如你是台灣不意外，為何是黑幫，難到鎖納一千多年是用在黑幫😮，民俗文化扯黑幫，如真黑也是台灣弄黑
@@user-原創音樂 是不是过分理解了😂叫他流氓乐器是因为音色高亢又响，一出场能把其他乐器全部盖住。
@@shichengliu1827 wow.. thanks for the information.. i'm gonna save this
Ну китайские народные инструменты без всякого сомнения очень хороши. Браво молодцы.
This is so fun. The original music battle inspired me to watch the film (which I adored) and this is a very fun new take on the battle with a different song. I feel like the western violins drown out the Chinese instruments too much in this (I could hardly hear the guzheng or the erhu except periodically), but the dizi and suona really shine. Thank you for sharing!
Is this the remake?
@@Makkoiurufu Yes
I just watched the original version, this is so much better but i wish that they kept the ending where the gentleman said "It's refreshing, a joining of the East and West. Why put up a gate? This is a hall of arts, why make it look like a prison? Take down the gate."
Idk much about musical instruments but I do know that this was really amazing. I loved how the traditional Chinese instruments get their own section and the whole melody did not feel like a western song but had obvious traditional Chinese elements (at least that’s what it felt like to my amateur ears😃)
I liked this version better than the previous one. The overall song and also how the traditional Chinese instruments group won as a whole and not because of “jump scare” as someone else mentioned in their comment
Its not chinese instruments its asian and as i can see atleast 3 of the instrument from the traditional instruments are from mongolia there could be more, no offence tho im just telling
Personally I really liked the instrument at 1:19. The big black one the guy was blowing on. I wanna blow on something like that😊
I think the other one is better since it introduced the instrument one at a time and when they put the camera on either side you hear their instruments more clearly then the other team
@@rwyk5728 In this version, it sounds more like a tug of war, which is why I prefer it over the previous one
You're right. The folk musicians are able to win this battle because they are able to improvise and change the tune however they want while the western musicians are too structured by following only the melody their sheet provides and the conductor's instructions
Восхищение !!! Прекрасное исполнение и прекрасные музыканты !!!
For the first time I left my heart in a war... I listen to every song genre, in every instrument because what matters is that it pareles with your soul. This song parallels in itself... It's awesome.
'For the first time I left my heart in a war'. Do write the rest of that song/poem/novel/essay. You owe it to us and yourself. Good luck.
This is magical, the sound from the Chinese instruments is beautiful. Very clever idea to put the two together ❤
Cool! Such Beautiful music. Folk vs. Classical instruments. WOW!!
Ok, may I say how this moved me so deeply it made me cry? Something about... This feeling of what they are fighting for, how this sounds so different and beautifully, and how they could show their value when everyone else told them the opposite, it warmed my heart. As someone from Latin America this resonates with me, because my country is very very mixed and yet it sometimes feels like we lost something, from our tradition, from our pre-colombian ancestors, so this makes me feel: both our sides are beautiful and valuable, and they deserve to be recognized equally.
This is the charm of traditional Chinese music😝
You're not the only one who feels like this whenever hearing this, believe me X3
You’re not alone; I’m a violinist raised on western classical pieces, and I also cannot sit through this without crying. There’s something so beautiful and innovative about having a staple of western music (Vivaldi’s Summer) be transformed into an orchestral backing track for this Chinese flute soloist and eventually the Suona.
I keep laughing after watching Twoset Violin reacting on this and its ancestor. It's very entertaining and interesting to see actual musicians reacting on this. Once you see it, it's actually funny rather than amazing.
Link please two sets violin link
@@Liangjielittle_
Here is the 1st one where they reacted on the original movie:
m.th-cam.com/video/PM-R8Kcw9r8/w-d-xo.html
And here's their reaction on the remake:
m.th-cam.com/video/TqzVL3crXT4/w-d-xo.html
Thanks
Even without their reaction, it's still pretty bizarre. I mean, what kind of teacher lets them fight like this. What kind of observing students takes this seriously? It's quite a bizarre drama.
Me too
I think this one was better. First of all, the flight of the bumblebee is kinda overused and as fast as it is, it really is not THAT difficult because it's basically a modified scale. Second, the original version seemed more about fighting with each other's equivalent musical instruments while this version seems like a fight between the classical western music system vs the traditional/folk Chinese music system. The thing is a lot of the western orchestral system is, for lack of a better word, very systemized to the extent that sometimes they cannot seem to play a piece without strictly following the rules (speaking of which, this is less of a problem in even western folk music...or SIKE JAZZ music), whereas traditional Chinese music system (or any nation's traditional folk music for that matter) retains an element of improvisation that they can manage to break or bend the rule, and this is what the traditional Chinese music students used to their advantage, making the victory seem more "full" and extensive. But both versions are fun regardless. I always love some west vs local tradition stories.
The flute dude carried the whole show
I like the previous one, no speaking was involved and all musical presentations are Beautiful.
I love how the combination of Dizi and Suona in Vivaldi's Winter Sonata change the entire competition. I love it!
this was what was missing in the original version. this drove the narrative better. i mean, both performance were good. but this one carried the story better for doing this.
@@klinetalladen Yes.
I like this music arrangement better. It is a test of a combination of improvising and ensemble-playing skill.
Here's what I think is happening:
The competition began with a coin toss.
Since the Western ensemble won, they started the challenge in a Concerto format: where the ensemble moves between group-solo-group (repetitively) format. th-cam.com/video/Ytw99mkVZ8I/w-d-xo.html.
The solo parts are technically very challenging (esp on a violin). The Western ensemble were supposed to play the group (tutti) part while the Chinese ensemble attempt the solo parts (and hopefully screw up).
The Er hu took the 1st solo part and unfortunately for the Western ensemble, she improvised a new tune instead and changed the character and speed of the original tune. The Western ensemble had to find a way to break back into group (tutti). But since they were not used to the new tune, the pianist quickly analysed the structure and successfully broke into their tutti section.
Later, the Suona took over the solo part and forced the western instrumentalists to accompany much longer than they are comfortable to. Again, he changed the original tune's character and speed. The Western ensemble were forced into the repeated notes to keep the rhythm up their accompaniment role.
Traditional Western ensemble/orchestra play a harmony when accompanying. And the harmony affects the structure. The Suona took the tune so far out till it crushed with the harmony of the Western ensemble. They were soon thrown into confusion and stopped. Since the traditional Chinese ensemble often play the same tune together, they simply did that and survived.
Without leaving a gap for the Western ensemble to join, the Chinese ensemble suddenly jump back into the original version of the tutti part again very quickly and conclude the piece before the Western ensemble could react.
That's a very good interpretation. What actually happened was that both sides hate each other a lot mainly because the western music students look down on the folk music students. The folk music students are annoyed by it while the western music students don't want the folk music students to drag their reputation. They made a bet to settle the scores between both sides. Through the flip of a coin, they will decide which team will start. The battle is to challenge which side's music presence is stronger and which side can keep up. Western music team starts. The folk music is able to follow the western music and they start a somewhat tugbof war over the influence of their instruments. All is normal until the folk music team started to change the tune which startles the western music team, which we could clearly see their music influence decreasing. The leader of the western music team was able to find a pattern to retake control until the folk music team changed the tune again. The music slowly shifted from something that sounded Western to something that sounds more Chinese. They are able to avoid traps and didn't give a chance for the western music team to continue. It then lead to western music team's defeat. Basically, what you said is what somewhat happened in this scene.
There is a reason why the western music team lost this battle. The folk music team did somewhat cheat, by already knowing what the other team is going to play. Though, they probably didn't have as much time as the western students who already practiced this music sheet for years, as stated by one of the western music student that it is their favorite music sheet. However, the folk music students are able to study both kinds of music to determine the strong and weak points, which the western music students didn't as they are overly confident about their musics. Through their studies, they can determine that the composition of western and folk music is very different : western music is semi-toned while the folk music is full-toned, making the possibility for the western music team being able to catch up and switch the tune easily and that folk music team won't be able to keep up unless they rehearse the same music sheet that the western music team uses. What is even more difficult is that the level of professionalism for each student is different. The instruments they play are made to most of the time, play in solo. The team will then have a hard time to unify the instruments' tune and composes one of the biggest problem they have, which they realized when they started rehearsing. Another problem they found was that the western music were made to have an echoeing system, which can easily crush the folk team's tune. They are able to cover all of those problems because of one of the strong point the folk music team has : improvisation. The western musicians mostly are seen with a conductor who leads the orchestra. The western music students weren't taught to make arrangements on their own. Because of such a structure, it is easy for them lose control of the tune of the structure is broken, more so when they are too used to following the directions of the conductor. Folk musicians use their instruments as a form of conversation, which is why they are able to keep up with the western team music with very little time of rehearsal as they basically only need to memorize and practice the sheet once
@@yukishiro3287 interesting. I need to watch the Dharma soon.
@@yukishiro3287 i dropped over to TwoSetViolin's The Remake of this Famous Musical Scene is Even Worse.
I like them very much. But it seems like classical-trained musicians can play by their own rules only. I actually like the dissonance and counter-melody that the folk musicians introduce into the music.
What's an echoing system? Is it call and imitate?
@@nutcrackers25 Echoeing system refers to how the instruments resonate very loudly. You could see the difference in material made by for each side's instruments. Because the classical instruments resonates better than traditional instruments, it's easy for the classical musicians to suppress the traditional's sounds
Remakes are made all the time. It gives another generation the opportunity to shine. Saying that, I myself despise remakes. Seldom are they as perfect.
Wow! I've never seen anything like this. I am totally wowed by both sets of instruments. I hope to find more videos like this and learn more about the traditional Asian instruments Half of them I did not even recognize. THANKS for sharing.... and educating. ((Hello from TEXAS))
I am not an expert in music, i do love a variety of them......it still amazes me on what they can do
I like the state at 2:50 he said "chang huei lai (Get it back)" .... then the violins catch it up
The Chinese flute(Dizi) is gorgeous 😍
（qiang hui lai）是搶回來
красиво... все восхищаются произведением, но никто не замечает стены что воздвигаю те кто возомнил что может вершить наши судьбы... искуство вечно, стены нет
во время войны, слышна лишь музыка пушек! так мы устроены! и кто играет такую музыку, тот и строит стены, через которые не слышна музыка, их не могут преодолеть спортсмены, и деятели искусств!
@@Старпёр-щ7я k
как называется пожалуйста скажите
@@КамилаХамитовнаМазуринаАнтонио Вивальди Времена года: зима.
@@КамилаХамитовнаМазурина начали с Вивальди Лето, но потом пошло всё подряд
This arrangement is much better than the original one, but the OG has that unique comedic taste in it
@Musliha Sadique Actually, they only showed the ensemble duel. In the sort of opening act, the girl also played guzheng, which initiated a response from the western classical ensemble and the harp player comes in to play. This clip only started after that opening act
The transition from western music to eastern made me shudder at how amazing it was... THAT WAS AWESOME 3:03
Essa sinfonia ficou ótima com esse instrumentos parece que está numa floresta toda viva
There were no losers in this. We all win.
Нужно было со стороны классических инструментов подвести орган ))) Так сказать--"оружие массового поражения"
Love this melting Moment when the Classic goes togethet with the cultur-Music. I would Wish for more like this. Melting-kind-type of music.
Очень красивый переход. Я такое вижу в первый раз. Молодцы.
I like the mix between 4 seasons and traditional chinese music, it was a very good blend of the two.
IMHO, music can be summed up in one word..., Passion
Regardless of the format/style of music that any artist plays, the more passion they put into it, the more passion the listener feels.
This is de new version? Remake?. I remember that I watched the movie the original version. But after I could to know that movie "our shiny days" had other movie and one extension serie. What is this version? Really is very good 😊❤️ thanks.
Yes this is remake from our shining days movie. You can watch this cdrama on iqiyi
@@adindas.a1745 thanks 😊
Our shipy days 2017; Our shipy days 2019😜
Why did they do a reboot? There no point.
孩子長大了！
江山代有才人出
The last instrument唢呐 Suo Na is not usually so soft. It was the ultimate weapon to beat Western in the movie and the tone was very high and sound was very bright then turn the whole trend away. Here is very ambiguous. The arrangement here is not for ordinary people maybe for professionals to tell how the traditional orchestra won.
This is the first time seeing this I have no ear for music cannot carry a tune one of the most beautiful things I have ever seen or heard can't wait to hear more keep up the good work
中西合併都好聽好有氣勢！
с таким остервенением играют, сразу видно мастера своего дела!
far away the battle for me i really appreciate the mix it's brilliant
Угараю и восхищаюсь с этой серии видео! Прекрасное исполнение с оригинальным, но гармоничным подходом к европейской классике👏
千年琵琶万年筝，一把二胡拉一生，唢呐一出全剧终，不是大喜就是大悲。初闻不识唢呐音，再听已是棺中人。闭眼不闻唢呐声，一心只蹦黄泉迪。
红衣进，白衣出 一生只进一家门，一生只爱一个人
Hahahahaha! The violin player where the bow position is really cracks me up. 🤣
If you are a Chinese, western music caresses your ears, Chinese music caresses your soul.
So a wonderful performed Song.. my heart likes it very much!
百般乐器唢呐为王 唢呐一响 不是升天便是拜堂
😂😂
У меня волосы встал дыбом...!!!! Молодцы!!!!
The irony is that as they compete they prove how well they compliment eachother
Gorgeous too, I can't get enough of watching this wonderful video ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Nunca creí que podría enamorarme más de la música...
Me acabo de dar cuenta de que estaba en un error, si puedo encontrar este arreglo sin las voces me iré al más allá feliz ( si es que se puede ir más feliz de lo que ya estoy).
i think this music is awesome i have watched these videos and love the old instruments vs old just awesome music
一堆人在那邊說抄襲，明明就是電視劇跟電影的差別，是要抄什麼🤔
作為一個學過笛子的人，個人覺得這個版本的音樂可能還比較合理一點，電影版的效果真的說不出的怪，而且是演同一首曲子老實說所有人沒有咬緊到最後蠻不可思議的，而這版是兩邊不同旋律，被擾亂感覺就比較情有可原了；但我不太喜歡這版的角色造型跟台詞，兩個男的音樂演奏當下還一直強調勝負有些出戲，電影版劉昱暢更得我心ʕ •ᴥ•ʔ
原來是電影跟電視劇啊⋯⋯
難怪 我正想說 到底是哪部抄襲哪部
這個電視劇 劇名是什麼？
就是"閃光少女"阿
這是閃光少女電視劇版的橋段
墮胎的嬰兒會回來：
七十年代，學生在嘉義縣一所教會幼稚園服務，園長是一位溫柔的牧師娘，年輕時是婦產科護士。她曾經親口告訴我們一群老師，有關她在醫院的點滴，許多婦女流產或墮胎，經由引流手術完成後，清潔工人就把廢棄物丟到醫院中庭園的小池塘，或者埋在樹底下，她們這些護士都是住宿，並且要輪流值夜班。園長說，她們當護士的，每天夜晚都會看見許許多多的嬰兒在池子邊爬來爬去，或者貓兒在樹下叫號不已。
當園長與這些年輕的老師們分享她的真實見聞之後，也誠心的諄諄告誡我們，千萬不可隨便犯造淫業，更不可隨便墮胎，以免【嬰靈】跟隨而作崇，甚至影響身體健康。
事隔三十年後，再想起這一件事，符合我們現在在宗教上的認知，怎能不信因果。我們也曾經聽過一些前賢的親身經歷，他們都是自己親眼看見【冤欠的討報】，當時痛苦的程度，豈是三言兩語說得完。當然事後經過醫學檢查，最後確定為婦科疾病，只有接受開刀治療，這麼一來，即是遭受【刀劫】了，根據了解，乃是某一世的淫業所造成的。
世人知悉過去言行有過錯，唯有反省、懺悔、感恩，進而端正言行，即是：化解。
我也比較喜歡電影這影集有種我說不出來的怪感
人家叫彭昱畅啦，彭彭
An awesome video ..... both western and Chinese instruments together sound awesome!
Imagine being the person whose job is to open the door for the different instruments because you didn't practice enough to play with the others 😭
Lol this is so very funny from an amateur's perspective. It's about how they are fighting for dominance but they are actually complementing each other so well.
結論：嗩吶是個暴力不講理、能把主旋律任意帶走的樂器
人都可以带走了何况是旋律xDDD
结论是弦乐器少了铜管乐器,以弦乐器对上唢呐哪有不输的
@@JesperStarBoy 笑噴🤣🤣🤣
Я из России, китайские инструменты потрясающе. Такие лиричные и немного печальные красивые звуки.
Where can we see it in England? We love shining days its epic.
Iqiyi
Cómo siempre poniendo corazón y alegrías a los corazones. Ashe y Miles de bendiciones
Это лучшее противостояние народников и струнников (да и всех остальных) :)
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏😂😂😂素晴らしい❗演奏ありがとうございます！🎼🎺
This accurately represents every music club when they compete for more budget from the school.
За этих детей можно не беспокоиться. Пространство их мыслей занято Музыкой, и это очень важно.
真的是，嗩吶無敵😂😂😂
唢呐为王，不愧是流氓😄
這嗩吶匹夫, 對面馬上躺. 😂😂
Коротко о ролике. Была проделана хорошая работа. Все молодцы, и дети-музаканты, и звукорежиссёр, особенно режиссёр. Который смог создать национальную линию с уклоном в патриотизм, что явно лучше любого наносного извне. Это легко проследить по реакции людей в комментариях. Это правильно в рамках государства в котором живёшь, но такое искусство ни когда не будет оценено на мировом уровне. На унижении чего либо (особенно культуры других стран также имеющих тысячелетнюю историю), не получится громко заявить о себе, не поймут. До просмотра этого ролика, даже не подозревал что есть такой фильм. В нем играют пожалуй самые известные музыкальные инструменты, другие, не такие известные, нет. Но ведь есть такие, что имеют такое богатое звучание, что заткнут любой из известных инструментов, и не важно что на нем сыграют, главное это мастерство музыканта. А вот об этом ни одного слова в комментариях нет. Именно на мастерстве музыкантов и должен был быть создан контраст в фильме, а не одного, который якобы обыграл всех (что странно видеть от китайцев, где сила страны построена на единстве народа). Но, это моё мнение. Вы не обязаны быть с ним согласны. Все.
Шедевр 👍👍👍👍👍🥰🥰🥰🥰
Brilliant music and musicians
Flat lifeless presentation
Misses the passion of the movie
WOW WOW WOW ! nothing to say more... incroyable... Merci ! Thank you !
It’s a shame there had to be a perceived winner. So beautiful taken together
Traditional music is still deep in My heart
Some parts, specifically the 'pipe' instruments, I can imagine matching very well with their western 'counterparts' to the point it plucks something not hearing it there.
O cholera aż mnie ciarki przechodzą gdy tego słucham.
They're always playing the classical music😁 why didn't they have a battle on traditional music too?😅 I wished to hear they battle for a traditional music piece too but oh well, they still sound beautiful 😍
电影里的斗乐更精彩，闪光少女吧？好像是这个名字
どーゆーいきさつか判りませんが、面白かったです！！
「いきさつが判らずとも」「面白い」のは、とても演出が見事なセイだと思います。
Great transitions and an extremely respectful interpretation
ngl the choice of music was better than before
BUT I STILL LOVE THE CASTING FROM BEFORE AS WELL
Моё восхищение!
Сотый раз пересматриваю!!!!❤
Какое великолепное исполнение!какие прекрасные дети!я в восхищении!!!
百种乐器，唢呐为王
Home music is the best music. What connects you to home.
We need a show like this with a traditional instrument band, comprised of all non electronic instruments vs an all synth and electronic band, so many lil synths out there and electronic instruments for the same reason. Folks dont take electronic music seriously
First Rimsky-Korsakov, now Vivaldi! What could be better! KEEEEEEEP GOING!
This Video shows show's how beautiful & majestic music is to everyone in all cultures.
wow i love that one and they are many student playing music that make the song an amazing.This the best song i see it in my life . I think they learn that in many years this is amazing me i can learn it . THAT AMAZING!
還是中國的樂器演奏出來的更有靈魂！評論區有人說嗩吶不適合古典樂？！古典樂可不只是西方才有，世界上最早的樂器可是出生在中國啊！用霸權，話語權決定誰更“高雅”誰是“藝術”的時代該結束了！
嗩吶一出現 局勢立刻逆轉。神來之筆！
婚喪喜慶，婚嫁迎娶、超渡法事時伴奏之用
3:22 daum that is too beautiful
Очень сильные впечатления. Даже на слезы пробило.👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
А если посмотрите эту дораму(сериал), то слез будет еще больше. Как и впечатлений!
Whats that brass wind instrument that joins in at 3:24 called?
This so wonderful! Competition in the pursuit of arete!
What noteworthy kids! Let's old farts unite East/West, North/South to give them a better world than we have so far!
Hm... I don't care whether anyone else is inspired by these kids, I'm going to ride for a better future for them even if no one is with me -- but everyone is welcome to come along!
The musicians are sooo good, I don’t think I will reach their level in my lifetime
Hahaha keren dan lucu..Mau donk pak dokter jdi modelnya...wkwkkw...
Полёт шмеля был эпичней!
Kenapa harus bersaing keduanya bagus, aku sangat menikmati pertunjukan keduanya baik yg instrumen modern maupun instrumen klasik, apalagi klo dikombinasikan makin indah pastinya ❤️
不知道怎麼會有這一版的“閃光少女”？但是這一版感覺沒有那麼精彩，不管在運鏡或剪輯上，還是另一版的比較精彩！
这好像是电视剧的，看了一点然后就莫有然后了
@@sacrificerainwetrain2902 可以去看看閃光少女 中西對戰比較燃
雖然不知道誰抄誰的 這個版本聽起來比較文雅
Love From Nepal 🇳🇵🇳🇵🇳🇵🍀🍀🇳🇵🍀💙💙💙💙
Тут есть комментарий, что музыка должна играть всеми инструментами со всего мира, музыка должна нести мир, а не войну, должна объединять людей в едином сознании, а не разделять их в духовной деградации. Да, неплохо бы создать единый мировой симфонический оркестр, синтез всех мировых культур, инструментов и образов, исполняемых лучшими исполнителями и просто любителями-виртуозвми, добавив туда ещё тяжёлой музыки, фолка, электронной музыки и ещё множество разных стилей. Если давать концерты такого оркестра по всему миру в разных консерваториях и залах, народы мира объединяться в один. Войны прекратятся. Людям просто будет не до ссор и конфликтов, они будут слушать такую музыку, на мировых закулисных фашистов им просто будет наплевать.
для того что-бы подобное случилось, все люди должны иметь такую душу, чтобы слушать и слышать.. а это к сожалению не так частно встречающееся явление..