This is basically mono-blue tempo but simic, right? I know some people don't like that style of magic, but I'm happy that there are several viable looking tempo decks now. It feels like interactive magic!
13:01 Every once in a while Seth (and Richard) let out a genuine Villainous Cackle that is so priceless 😂 Villainous Cackle 4BB Instant Pay X Life: Target Creature gets +X/+0 and Menace until end of turn. Art Depicts a single bloodied villain with a crazed smile in a battle-torn 3 piece suite covered in blood and bullet holes, wielding "doom-blade-esque" black magic in one hand, the other arm broken and limp at his side. They are marching through a John Wick amount of dead bodies toward you; the last one standing. The shadow cast on the wall from the fallen chandelier is monstrously large and making a cackling gesture with both hands raised showing the inner power of the black magic that drives the villain to no end even at the brink of death.
Seth as an Aura connoisseur sometimes you gotta spread the love around instead of going all in on your one creature unless that's all you have. Also I've built Bogleless Auras in modern with 8 Rancors and it's absurd lol. Still loses to free nonsense at times but so does everything else.
I would probably used the ledger to connive a bit more but this build is still pretty good, it seems like a fun deck to try after building selesnya enchantments.
What would you cut for the ledger, though? The deck seems pretty tight as it is tbh, even though it's a budget build nothing sticks out to me as something that should be cut (besides swapping 1 of each basic for the channel lands of course).
@@Icameron259 I love it when a budget deck doesn't have an obvious upgrade even if you had unlimited cash. "Maybe Ledger Shredder for Ivy" is much more refreshing than "You should obviously play Dual Lands if you have $5k."
Sweet deck! I love the more aggressive aura deck compared to ivy / vesuvian duplimancy. On a different note, every since BRO it was spoiled I've been so interested by the temporal anchor. You should totally check it out in against the odds!
38:00 Yeah. You gotta play your threats to protect your threats. You don't care if they kill your Kami, and Slip was plenty of protection for those threats of yours.
Very similar to Blue/White with that double strike 2 drop but looks funner to play. Might be worth adding the equipment that gives +1/+1 for each aura on the equipped creature.
I have been trying this deck out and am currently having mixed results. With a good hand it stomps, but a lot of the time I end up with all protection and no threats or all threats and no protection. Now this may just be the judgment of RNJesus or me playing it poorly, but hints and tips are appreciated Cool deck tho kudos Seth!
I feel like you could look at Blanchwood Armor and Sparta's Headquarters as part of the deck. HQ may miss the high end of the budget, though. But, it's probably a good replacement for Coast.
@@eatachodeutube there's a reason that I said probably. Plus, he was pitching a bunch of lands to connive over the course of the matches, so I don't think it really matters. I was thinking about it as a way to power up Blanchwood Armor while still being in the right colors.
@@blueredlover1060 I've played a similar deck in the Kaldheim rotation only with more instants and dragonguard's elite. And believe me you need untapped dual mana to make such a deck consistent. The headquarter cycling ability rarely is worth it. I don't like the pain lands, because of so many tempo and aggro decks, but they are necessary. Also blanchwood armor isn't in the standard rotation or am I wrong?
I'm not the biggest fan of Blanchwood Armor here, at least compared to traditional Boggles. This deck already has 8 ways that can produce massive creatures, 4 of which are creatures that recur from the graveyard and 4 of which are creatures that can pump other creatures. This deck also doesn't have hexproof like Boggles does. It relies heavily on protection spells instead. I'm not sure it is worth opening yourself up to a bigger blowout by attacking harder. There are fewer combos in Standard and speed matters a little less.
Blue Delver does not effectively beat the black decks. One big reason I've continued to stick with Mono-Black as much as I have is because it just crushes Mono-Blue while my other brews struggle, and it's so frustrating for that matchup to be bad. Honestly, I blame that deck moreso than the midrange piles for the stagnation people have complained about in standard. This deck or something like it might be a different story based on that Grixis game though.
I am confused. In the podcast you said Standard is dying but also Standard is the best thats ever been and there is also a lot of Stanrdard content. Shall I buy in Standard now? :D
It's not that Standard is dying as much as paper Standard is dying. Tons of people still play online, but it's a lot harder to find places to play Standard in paper than it was a few years ago.
Me: So you made a deck who's primary purpose is to prevent the other player from interacting/playing the game? Bogles player: exactly Me: Why? Bogles player: I'm unhappy on the inside 😀 Shout out mtgremy.
*SECOND* week of BRO budget Standard, Seth. Week 1 was(as almost always) Mono-Red w/ Powerstones. GREAT build, tho. I'm 110% for any build that's focused on anti-removal.
It wouldn't break the deck, most games it would probably be fine, but there would be some games where you get color screwed probably. I think it's a fine starting point for an ultra-budget plan though, especially if you are okay with losing everyone once and a while to drawing all Islands or all Forest.
@@MTGGoldfish in my country we don't have any LGS, nor organized play so you can imagine how much I need truly competitive deck 😂 Thanks for your work and for your advice anyway ❣️
I absolutely love ivy as a commander, there’s so many ways to be an annoying little shit XD. Vesuvian duplimancy is also amazing in this deck to duplicate ivy and and duplicate literally everything that is cast across all of your Ivy’s
Bogles is pronounced like BOH-GLES not BAH-GLES. The deck is named after Slippery Bogle. A Bogle is a phantom or goblin, which the Bogle is. What you're saying is Boggle like when something Boggles the mind. Other than that, the deck looked fun to play. If I did standard at all I would probably give it a go.
first game reminded me of when i played modern bogles against a grixis control player in like 2015 modern. He told me to fuck myself because he was frustrated that half of his deck didn't work against me.
I only play limited on Arena so I was shocked to see even at Platinum/Mythic you have babies who rope. And then to do it against a big magic streamer. I think we can say “Alex” is an ass.
Match 5 game 2: why did you pitch Kami's rather than just play them? If your opponent had destroyed them because you didn't have geistlight mana, then at least you would have drawn their answers out.
I messed up that game a lot by playing too conservatively. For some reason I got stuck on the idea that we wanted to wait until we drew another land to play stuff so we could leave up a protection spell or counterspell, but the went very wrong. Running out the Kami's would have been way, way better.
@@MTGGoldfish I wrote that while the game was still going, didn't mean to harass you after the fact since you explained it in video. It is easy to get so focused on a line that other alternatives fall away.
I think it's mostly best to try to grow one big creature since we can use Security Bypass to make it unblockable (and also because we are good at protecting one creature, but usually not multiple creatures).
The deck name "Bogles" came from the card Slippery Bogle, which was the main card only because it had hexproof... you're not playing bogles, you're playing auras or heroic or enchantress... I think even Voltron suits better here!
I hate Slip Out the Back. Atleast other things only make stuff hexproof or indestructible so you can make the opponent sacrifice stuff. Slip Out the Back is just ridiculous since it protects against sacrifice as well.
I know Crim and Seth enjoy getting the salty scoop from opponents, but content wise, is that what we really want as a community? By and large, most players aren’t sore losers, so why give any air time to those that are? I know Seth at least records quite a few more matches than he puts in the videos, why not just leave out the salty roping opponents. Especially when often times they’re just playing tier decks anyway, so what are we really losing. Just saying that MTG is hard to watch already for non-enfranchised people, can’t imagine all the salty roping and early scooping helps much. Just a thought…
I would be curious to hear other people's opinions, I find salty scoops sort of funny, but if it makes the videos worse it could be worth avoiding in the future.
Personally I kinda like seeing them, and while I understand what the original comment is concerned about, I think it’s important optics to show that the deck is competitive with sweats, especially if they’re rocking a tier deck. I always imagined the spirit of budget magic is to help people understand that competitive magic doesn’t HAVE to be locked behind a paywall. Yes if you want more consistent results you can spend more but I appreciate the people who do getting knocked down a peg sometimes.
@@MTGGoldfish I don't mind salty rope games being in the video, but it doesn't make for a great viewing experience to sit and watch the bar ticking down. When an opponent is salting out like that, I'd honestly prefer if you edited them to cut away at the point they stop playing and return once they're out of timeouts. The time in between is essentially just dead air from a viewer's perspective.
If an opponent who knows they've lost is childish enough to waste time and rope instead of just conceding like a well adjusted adult, then a little gleeful laughter is more than justified.
Nothing brings me more joy than Seth's laugh while beating monoblack.
yeah, the sheer happiness is contagious.
The glee at the end of the Grixis game warmed my soul.
Mono black sucks now. Legitimately. All down hill after meat hook
Hahahahaha
This is basically mono-blue tempo but simic, right? I know some people don't like that style of magic, but I'm happy that there are several viable looking tempo decks now. It feels like interactive magic!
Yeah, it reminds me of Mono-Blue Delver, but with bigger creatures, more card draw and less counters.
@@MTGGoldfish It specifically reminds of U tempo from Ixalan-War of the spark standard
@@MTGGoldfish So basically the deck that I've been playing? Guess I need to update myself, then.
13:01 Every once in a while Seth (and Richard) let out a genuine Villainous Cackle that is so priceless 😂
Villainous Cackle
4BB
Instant
Pay X Life: Target Creature gets +X/+0 and Menace until end of turn.
Art Depicts a single bloodied villain with a crazed smile in a battle-torn 3 piece suite covered in blood and bullet holes, wielding "doom-blade-esque" black magic in one hand, the other arm broken and limp at his side. They are marching through a John Wick amount of dead bodies toward you; the last one standing.
The shadow cast on the wall from the fallen chandelier is monstrously large and making a cackling gesture with both hands raised showing the inner power of the black magic that drives the villain to no end even at the brink of death.
Oh, awesome! I never thought of mixing GW Enchantments’ beaters with WB Tempo’s draw engines! Fairy and Audacity definitely ties the deck together.
Audacity is so good!
We need more people like you guys: people who actually use homebrew decks
every netdeck started as a homebrew.
Seth as an Aura connoisseur sometimes you gotta spread the love around instead of going all in on your one creature unless that's all you have. Also I've built Bogleless Auras in modern with 8 Rancors and it's absurd lol. Still loses to free nonsense at times but so does everything else.
Cool deck! Budget Magic is definitely my favorite series on Goldfish.
Thanks!
The salt must flow.
I would probably used the ledger to connive a bit more but this build is still pretty good, it seems like a fun deck to try after building selesnya enchantments.
What would you cut for the ledger, though? The deck seems pretty tight as it is tbh, even though it's a budget build nothing sticks out to me as something that should be cut (besides swapping 1 of each basic for the channel lands of course).
@@Icameron259 Ivy maybe? feels a bit "win more" to me.. then again it can go off really hard and win out of nowhere.
@@Icameron259 I love it when a budget deck doesn't have an obvious upgrade even if you had unlimited cash. "Maybe Ledger Shredder for Ivy" is much more refreshing than "You should obviously play Dual Lands if you have $5k."
Yeah, leger is good, but a bit expensive.
Please do this in Pioneer. New Rancor makes Boggles so good
I've built it in modern but without bogles and it's absurd lol.
Is it really a Budget episode if Seth doesn't talk about how the deck is actually good or maybe broke standard lol - love the deck Seth
TBF he does say half the rares are lands which are always a solid investment. So budget -ish.
Any time I see Sheoldred getting what’s coming to him my heart grows just a little bit.
Isn’t Sheoldred female? Or have I been interpreting all those cards wrong this entire time lol
@@corpsefoot758 To be fair, I’m bad at details so it’s entirely possible
Sweet deck! I love the more aggressive aura deck compared to ivy / vesuvian duplimancy. On a different note, every since BRO it was spoiled I've been so interested by the temporal anchor. You should totally check it out in against the odds!
38:00 Yeah. You gotta play your threats to protect your threats. You don't care if they kill your Kami, and Slip was plenty of protection for those threats of yours.
This scratches my Voltron Commander itch so hard. Standard Voltron I never thought I'd see it
WOW, yeah, I 3 for 3 without even finishing the vid. Thanks for the budget decks, they are always fun to play on MTGA.
Very similar to Blue/White with that double strike 2 drop but looks funner to play. Might be worth adding the equipment that gives +1/+1 for each aura on the equipped creature.
Audacity is 100% a reference to Rancor down to the flavor text
"Bravery outlives the Brave" vs the old "Hatred outlives the Hateful" of Rancor
I would love to see this in explorer or pioneer honestly. It feels like a fun deck to pull out of nowhere
Everytime I hear "CAMMY" I die a little inside.
Especially bc he pronounces it correctly in Kamigawa
Venerous Gisitor is my favorite new card
I have been trying this deck out and am currently having mixed results.
With a good hand it stomps, but a lot of the time I end up with all protection and no threats or all threats and no protection. Now this may just be the judgment of RNJesus or me playing it poorly, but hints and tips are appreciated
Cool deck tho kudos Seth!
I feel like you could look at Blanchwood Armor and Sparta's Headquarters as part of the deck. HQ may miss the high end of the budget, though. But, it's probably a good replacement for Coast.
Yavimaya Coast is good for getting both colors untapped at any point of the game. Extremely important for this deck.
@@eatachodeutube there's a reason that I said probably. Plus, he was pitching a bunch of lands to connive over the course of the matches, so I don't think it really matters. I was thinking about it as a way to power up Blanchwood Armor while still being in the right colors.
@@blueredlover1060 I've played a similar deck in the Kaldheim rotation only with more instants and dragonguard's elite. And believe me you need untapped dual mana to make such a deck consistent. The headquarter cycling ability rarely is worth it. I don't like the pain lands, because of so many tempo and aggro decks, but they are necessary.
Also blanchwood armor isn't in the standard rotation or am I wrong?
@@Colorado0091 it is.
I'm not the biggest fan of Blanchwood Armor here, at least compared to traditional Boggles. This deck already has 8 ways that can produce massive creatures, 4 of which are creatures that recur from the graveyard and 4 of which are creatures that can pump other creatures.
This deck also doesn't have hexproof like Boggles does. It relies heavily on protection spells instead. I'm not sure it is worth opening yourself up to a bigger blowout by attacking harder. There are fewer combos in Standard and speed matters a little less.
"Well now we're fine, we have Slip out the Backup" I saw what you did there, even if you didn't lol
"butt that's a big ask"
Missed opportunity to say "Let's swing in with our big ask"
Blue Delver does not effectively beat the black decks. One big reason I've continued to stick with Mono-Black as much as I have is because it just crushes Mono-Blue while my other brews struggle, and it's so frustrating for that matchup to be bad. Honestly, I blame that deck moreso than the midrange piles for the stagnation people have complained about in standard.
This deck or something like it might be a different story based on that Grixis game though.
Do yall think this deck is playing at an rcq with some upgrades? Thinking about trying it out this weekend.
where did reverse list go I cant find it on wizards side anneymore
The red fire breathing / flying enchantment that recurs would be busted here as well
Looks awesome! What adjustments would you make to run it in Explorer?
Ohh, I might have to try to build that, let me think on it
That would be amazing. Thanks!
Curious obsession for sure
I hope the first op feels good about them salty ropping in front of tens of thousands of people and showing how ridiculous they are
can you include a section in the budget-videos where you talk about upgrades i.e. a non-budget version ?
I believe he normally does in the article that's why he doesn't always cover in the video
There usually is one in the article if you look at the description.
if you've got the cards or the wildcards a few copies of boseiju could be spicy in the main
Yeah, the channel lands are mostly a free roll
In match 3 why did fang get exiled?
Good old "Cammy" 🙃
Never change Seth, lol
match 1: an unstoppable force vs an unmovable object. glad to see removal dot deck get salty and scoop.
I am confused. In the podcast you said Standard is dying but also Standard is the best thats ever been and there is also a lot of Stanrdard content. Shall I buy in Standard now? :D
It's not that Standard is dying as much as paper Standard is dying. Tons of people still play online, but it's a lot harder to find places to play Standard in paper than it was a few years ago.
what would u take out and replace with if i wanna take this deck to alchemy?
Is it just me, or is the game audio doubled up?
Audacity is even referencing the Rancor flavour text in its own! 🤣
Me: So you made a deck who's primary purpose is to prevent the other player from interacting/playing the game?
Bogles player: exactly
Me: Why?
Bogles player: I'm unhappy on the inside 😀
Shout out mtgremy.
*SECOND* week of BRO budget Standard, Seth.
Week 1 was(as almost always) Mono-Red w/ Powerstones.
GREAT build, tho. I'm 110% for any build that's focused on anti-removal.
in explorer you get staggering insight which means you automatically win races
I have a question, if we would do all-basics mana base it would break the deck entirely?)
It wouldn't break the deck, most games it would probably be fine, but there would be some games where you get color screwed probably. I think it's a fine starting point for an ultra-budget plan though, especially if you are okay with losing everyone once and a while to drawing all Islands or all Forest.
@@MTGGoldfish in my country we don't have any LGS, nor organized play so you can imagine how much I need truly competitive deck 😂
Thanks for your work and for your advice anyway ❣️
Would the slower taplands work in the deck, or would they be worse than basics?
Genuine question, is there a reason why he keeps skipping landrops? I genuinely don’t see why not just play em as you can
I think the main reason in this deck is Security Bypass that lets us connive away extra lands to find more action.
How about a pioneer version of this??
Cammy, from the plane of Cammy-gowa
Is it just me or...does Arena make people draw more lands than paper...
This deck is sweet love the synergies
Great content Seth
T1 budget deck?
I absolutely love ivy as a commander, there’s so many ways to be an annoying little shit XD. Vesuvian duplimancy is also amazing in this deck to duplicate ivy and and duplicate literally everything that is cast across all of your Ivy’s
Bogles is pronounced like BOH-GLES not BAH-GLES. The deck is named after Slippery Bogle. A Bogle is a phantom or goblin, which the Bogle is. What you're saying is Boggle like when something Boggles the mind. Other than that, the deck looked fun to play. If I did standard at all I would probably give it a go.
Its wild this deck is most expensive on arena.
Yeah, the Arena economy is something (even though Golden Packs do help a bit).
There's a new one that gets + 1 + 0 and cannot be blocked for two blue
I mean, this feels more like miracle grow than bogles but interesting deck regardless
I'm somewhat surprised to see Seth playing best-of-one.
It's best of three, our first opponent just salted out after game one :)
first game reminded me of when i played modern bogles against a grixis control player in like 2015 modern. He told me to fuck myself because he was frustrated that half of his deck didn't work against me.
22:30 goth oppression
Set, I am your brother from another mother.
sucks to spend my rares on mana though, but its worth it
Standard Bogles, what's next, Standard Tron?
I can’t see or hear the word “Bogles” and not hear MTGRemy.
I only play limited on Arena so I was shocked to see even at Platinum/Mythic you have babies who rope. And then to do it against a big magic streamer. I think we can say “Alex” is an ass.
Standard Miracle-Gro!!!!
Actually, it is pretty close to a Miracle-Gro deck now that you mention it.
Well, Seth got me to download Marvel Snap.
Have fun!
Match 5 game 2: why did you pitch Kami's rather than just play them? If your opponent had destroyed them because you didn't have geistlight mana, then at least you would have drawn their answers out.
I messed up that game a lot by playing too conservatively. For some reason I got stuck on the idea that we wanted to wait until we drew another land to play stuff so we could leave up a protection spell or counterspell, but the went very wrong. Running out the Kami's would have been way, way better.
@@MTGGoldfish I wrote that while the game was still going, didn't mean to harass you after the fact since you explained it in video. It is easy to get so focused on a line that other alternatives fall away.
Ivy + Disturb Auras
So, maybe……Blue Bogles？
We HATE mono black in this house!
Not the TH-camr though, he's a kind a gentle soul.
"You can't interact with it."
"Fun!"
Control players *hate* this one trick!
bruh-gles war
I''m sure the Grixis player just had bad internet...all..of...a..sudden ;)
I wonder who this cammy is he keeps talking about.
It's always the netdeckers playing Tier 0 decks that are the saltiest
BROgels
I am going to start selling shirts with SBKASO's face on them saying "Maybe this deck is busted!" Who wants one?
I'll take 10.
Nothing better than getting a salty rope from a grixis tryhard!
I hate watching him put all of his counters on one creature why does he not spread them out a little when he can
I think it's mostly best to try to grow one big creature since we can use Security Bypass to make it unblockable (and also because we are good at protecting one creature, but usually not multiple creatures).
Did you forget to add "standard" to the title?
There needs to be punishment for people who rope.
Salty roping is such childish behavior, if that is what was happening.
Arena Control players are the worst 😅😅 just salty rope and scoop whenever they start losing
The deck name "Bogles" came from the card Slippery Bogle, which was the main card only because it had hexproof... you're not playing bogles, you're playing auras or heroic or enchantress... I think even Voltron suits better here!
Generous Givitor
I hate Slip Out the Back. Atleast other things only make stuff hexproof or indestructible so you can make the opponent sacrifice stuff. Slip Out the Back is just ridiculous since it protects against sacrifice as well.
Yeah, it is probably the best protection spell ever.
Meow
I know Crim and Seth enjoy getting the salty scoop from opponents, but content wise, is that what we really want as a community? By and large, most players aren’t sore losers, so why give any air time to those that are? I know Seth at least records quite a few more matches than he puts in the videos, why not just leave out the salty roping opponents. Especially when often times they’re just playing tier decks anyway, so what are we really losing. Just saying that MTG is hard to watch already for non-enfranchised people, can’t imagine all the salty roping and early scooping helps much. Just a thought…
I would be curious to hear other people's opinions, I find salty scoops sort of funny, but if it makes the videos worse it could be worth avoiding in the future.
Personally I kinda like seeing them, and while I understand what the original comment is concerned about, I think it’s important optics to show that the deck is competitive with sweats, especially if they’re rocking a tier deck. I always imagined the spirit of budget magic is to help people understand that competitive magic doesn’t HAVE to be locked behind a paywall. Yes if you want more consistent results you can spend more but I appreciate the people who do getting knocked down a peg sometimes.
@@MTGGoldfish I don't mind salty rope games being in the video, but it doesn't make for a great viewing experience to sit and watch the bar ticking down. When an opponent is salting out like that, I'd honestly prefer if you edited them to cut away at the point they stop playing and return once they're out of timeouts. The time in between is essentially just dead air from a viewer's perspective.
Bit of a sore winner in that first one Seth...
Opponent was a sore loser
If an opponent who knows they've lost is childish enough to waste time and rope instead of just conceding like a well adjusted adult, then a little gleeful laughter is more than justified.
What's up with these @ names? TH-cam just keeps getting worse and worse.