The Cost of Full Time Travel
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 มิ.ย. 2024
- In this video, we break down all the costs of full-time travel. Everything from the day to day living costs, to the vehicle you choose to drive. We use three examples of our own vehicles to give you a better idea of the full spectrum of pricing!
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Budgeting isn’t about being inflexible, it’s about knowing what you are spending. That way you can make choices about what is most important for you.
Honestly, the newer Tundra, with its warranty and general reliability, grant a peace of mind that should be included in the cost/benefit analysis. The Vanagon was expensive and, I bet, worrisome, as well.
Endlessly worrisome. With a vehicle like that we had decided our time was worth more that what we could give to it... in addition to the financial strain it caused
These real world videos you've been doing are great. Gives us wannabes something to think about and get a real world perspective on living in your vehicle on the road. Thank you so much for putting it out there.
Like the detailed info, and way you put everything together 👍👏
Very nice of you to share your info, thank you. Very helpful.
Thanks for providing a realistic breakdown. Toyota reliability and finding alternative healthcare made a larger impact than expected!
It really really did! We're very thankful for both!
Love love the candid detail, thanks so much
You are so welcome!
Thanks so much for sharing, real eye opener on the vw costs vs the current rig for sure
Crazy right? Not what I expected at all!
Chance upon your blog and I love it. 👍 As an aspiring overlander, you gave me a clear understanding of what to budget for to live on the road full-time. Will subscribe to learn more from your experience... cheers and stay safe. ✌️
Thanks for cost breakouts!!!
Mac you do such a great job in your presenting. You are a pleasure to listen to, you have great style and ability to communicate in front of a camera.
Thanks for sharing!
Personal finances can be understandably private so being open to sharing your realistic experiences with the cost involved with living on the road is much appreciated.
Oh it's our pleasure. In our opinion it's really nothing to be shy about. Especially if it could potentially help someone else!
Great info we are getting ready to do the same in about two years! We have a 2019 tundra.
Congratulations! That's amazing!
you explain this very well, you would’ve made a great teacher🤩
Great vid very informative Thank you and be safe
Traveling is a challenging experience and taking a long road trips is awesome, but there is nothing like STABILITY
We always LOVE your videos 💚
You are too sweet!
This was very informative! Thanks :)
Great content, thanks for sharing 😌
Awwww thank you so much!
Mac here!! I love your intro. I'm very impressed that you started in a tent and did not quite. 20 years as a sales rep servicing hardware and auto parts stores. I might have stay in a hotel 5 nights. I too, started with a tent.
Gotta start somewhere! I liked starting so simple because it gave us the opportunity to grow and learn what works best for us!
And if anyone is wondering how much it costs to travel full time with a family of 4: We are traveling around in almost the exact same rig with the addition of 2 kids, 5 and 8; It costs us about $,3500 per month.
Hey Mak! I'd definitely like to see some recipes and food prep videos--how to eat healthy on the road is something I don't see a lot of people talk about. Great video and channel :) Thanks for sharing.
Our pleasure! I've been thinking of venturing into that territory for a while now! Good to know!
Great information.
Love you guys keep up the strong work. Thanks for that burrrp.
Thank you so much
Good video, thanks for sharing 👍
Our pleasure!
Always lovin the outtakes!😜 *buuurp*
I'm a burper for sure.
Bound For Nowhere hahaha! Go on guuurl! Me too! Why fart and waste it when you can burp and taste it....gone too far? 🤭😬🤷🏻♀️😜🤣
Hey guys! As always, great video😊 Thank you! I hope you guys are doing well👍🏽
Thank you oh so much! Hope your in high spirits and healthy!
Bound For Nowhere Thanks! All good over here👍🏽😁
Nicely done and Very accurate numbers! Now in my seventh year of full time travel and many vehicles later, you learn how to travel & live within your means (i.e. $20 planet fitness membership for showers). Thank you for sharing!
Super, thanks so much !
You are so so welcome!
That burp at the end had me 😅😂
wow, thanks for the info, and it is hard to believe the Vanagon was more costly than the Tundra and your current camper(which is a fantastic set-up). Your experiences are revealing and helpful!
RIGHT?! We had done a total brain dump (likely due to Vanagon ownership PTSD) and had never done a final calculation on cost of ownership. Honestly, it's terrifying that it was more expensive.
Vanagon can be very inexpensive and reliable but for American market it was equipped with a really bad engine because somehow they assumed we don't like diesels. These things are 30-40 years old. There is a legendary 2.5 TDi which is bulletproof in earlier versions. Not a Toyota but very close. People drive these things around the world and fix minor issues themselves. Another problem is taking it to mechanics who don't really fix it right so the more they work on them, the more they'll break down later. Doing engine conversions etc can kill a car or van. If they can sell the current set up for $90k, great. How real is this estimate?
@@lukem9707 Really, usually when it comes to vehicles the higher the price tag the higher the drop in value at least in the first few years. Now that overlanding is trendy it might boost the used market upward but for how long yet.
Great information. When we started we were on a strict early retirement budget. I getting offered a position that allows us to continue to travel and I work on the road which caused us to be able to have more freedom and flexibility. However, as we prepare to retire for real this is very helpful information.
Oh absolutely! And the good thing is that you all probably have a better understanding for what your personal expenses are at this rate which will be helpful in figuring out these costs for yourself.
LOL I can watch your emotions when you do not like the cost, lol! I am the same way. Great insight!
HA I wear my thoughts externally ;)
Buy van with 100k miles for $4k, buy cot for $75, buy sleeping bag $100, buy cooler for $100, buy campstove and cookware for $200, throw a weeks worth of summer clothes and a weeks worth of winter clothes and everything else listed in van, drive away..... you don’t need an expensive rig, and most vans with only 100,000 miles have at least another 100,000 miles in them before they will need something major fixed.....
If you want to build the van out with a fridge, stove, bench that folds to a bed; you can do that later. But get on the road if the road is where you want to be.
I love plaid..
and you rocked that balck and white shirt😌.
Plaid4life lol.
Who did you have for the “state your value” insurance carrier? Thanks for another great video!
Very informative, thank you! Especially since I am in the process of buying a converted van for travels (but not fulltime, I like my home too much and have too many things :p haha)
hahah I totally understand that! We're happy we could help even if it's in a little way!
Thanks 😎
Our pleasure!
Thank you
Our pleasure!
I was watching one of your videos yesterday and was wondering just this question! I’m watching this now, thank you! 😊
Edit: It was very informative all around, I watched the entire video, and even saw the burp at the end LOL. Thanks again, I’m not at the place where I can travel like you guys yet, but I’ll get there.
The only question I can think of asking is what do you guys do for work? I haven’t watched all of your videos yet, quite a few though so I’m sorry if you guys previously mentioned that before lol.
I’ve been subscribed and gave a like, enjoy your adventures guys! 😊 (typos)
Hey there! So we're freelance designers, photographers and videographers! There's a video about it on our channel somewhere for yah!
Bound For Nowhere Okay thanks, I did use talk-to-text in my previous reply, so I’m sorry for the typos. I fixed them. I appreciate the reply, and I’ll have to check that out. I look forward to the next video, have a good one.
Thanks for sharing. I love the setup, I might like this rig to drive to Ushuia. It appears as if you purchased new, if this is the case, the general rule of thumb is you will lose 20%+ of the value of the new vehicle the moment you drive off the lot, $20k. You would also need to include your monthly loan payments in your totals, it sounded like you paid cash for the first 3 rigs, but would need to add $800 monthly note payment on the truck & camper for more accuracy.
Have you thought about or each of you had different mobile carriers? That way if one doesn’t have reception, maybe the other does. Really enjoying following the adventure. Thx
new to the channel and love the video. if I could ask what do you guys do for work to help fund your lifestyle?
We have a design business where we do Motion Graphics, Graphic Design and Illustration!
Great info, nice break down. One question is in the last year how many miles have you traveled and does it come close to your fuel budget? Just curious 😁
We drove 22k miles last year total. And that cost of budget is based on what we spent in gas per month most months since being on the road
I liked your sunrader
Love to the content! I literally like this video because of how cute she came off while asking us to. Oh and then the burp! Yeah I’m weird so!
Great video. A couple of things that were missed were your health expenses. What about copays and deductibles during a year? Also you have loans, so in addition to the depreciation, which seems low to me for first year ownership, you are paying a monthly interest charge. You should add this in for the Tundra. There are a couple of other things but those are the big ones I can think of. I do appreciate the info though. It helps us form our own expected costs.
Ok , great vid very helpful information and professionally done .... But Burp ! , like i laughed , its funny but don't undo what you're building ... Keep the bar high . Have a Happy Easter ~peace~
I’m curious how you account for costs for your business, specifically, are you using mileage to calculate vehicle costs? And if so how do you separate personal from business? We also have a channel and would be happy to compare notes and assumptions we use.
We have separate accounts for all business related purchases. We split our gas and our miles between business and personal 50/50. We pay for our health care. The business pays for gear such as cameras. We pay for the camper and the business pays for the truck.
Interesting video. Have y'all considered a Jeep wrangler? I travel and make videos in Colorado using my Jeep.
Why separate policies for the camper and truck? How does that work?
I just wanna know how you got insurance on your 2019 tundra for $97. That's crazy cheap! Also the new set up is beastly 💪!
Yeah, I'm thinking this was a mistake, no way a brand new tundy is $97 unless they've got a ridiculously high deductible, which they may have.
Prob not a mistake, Brand new 2018 tundra here, full coverage insurance $66 a month
I pay $83/month for my Crewmax Tundra and it is great insurance. "15 minutes could save you ...." ;)
How?? Mine is 345 a month
Our similarly priced 2018 F150 only costs $84 a month. Credit score can have more impact than a DUI, which is crazy. Shop around, we were paying almost double... seems like you have to switch every so often to get reasonable rates.
Whoa the cell phone bill is higher than I would expect. Might I suggest cricket wireless, its 15gigs of hotspot on the $60/month but you can add 15gigs for $15 and cricket wireless is on the AT&T network plus it doesn't get throttled. Best decision I made since my college is online.
In the end it isn't about price it's about access to connectivity. We have Verizon because no matter what the adds say, if you're going to have service somewhere it's going to be with Verizon. Coming from people who had AT&T and Verizon
Great information. Curious, as self-employed and doing free lance work on the road are you guys still able to save up for retirement through SEP 401k or SEP IRA? That’s also another big component of being able to secure your future.
We do but it's something we have to consciously do for ourselves
What do they do for work?
This is the 2nd video of yours I have viewed. Thank you.
What is the origin of your name ? Is it Danish Norwegian or German ? Or from somewhere else ?
Cheers.
MAC and Owen, thank you for the breakdown. Out of curiosity, does the estimated breakdown of your Tundra cost ($769) sufficient to cover your loan costs? That is without counting a sale price. Additionally, do you guys have any subscription fees like Netflix, HBO etc?
So we pay a total of $800 a month for the actual loan payments.
As for subscriptions, no we don't have any, we're leaching off of friends and families for those. The only subscriptions that we pay for per month are all business related such as payroll, invoicing software, and our creative softwares all of which our business pays for.
Try out Wave App for invoicing. FREE 👍
Do you often take a break from the 'rig'? Staying in hotels or airbnbs'?
Good question!
Wow, $480 food for two people is a good number! I just calculated my monthly grocery check, it is about ~$550. So you are doing a good job!
I like to think so! We're pretty good at stretching our food and planning out ingredients that can make a lot of different food items.
@@BoundForNowhere Often those who travel and spend time well off the beaten track have also become adept at avoiding food waste too. So much of peoples monthly spend on food nowadays just goes to waste! Honest thoughtful video as usual.
They are both pretty slim/athletic so likely don't eat a lot. A recipe for a long life expectancy.
I would be sick of broken vehicles too if I were you. 100k is expensive to be sure but it's a pimp ride. Even stock sprinters are 130k and reach 200 quick anything new is crazy expensive.
RIGHT!? Why does no one ever talk about that?! The number of people who have said why would you spend so much on the truck. You should have gotten a sprinter...
But as far as the VW is concerned, we just had to put a monetary value on our time and realized the price was too high.
paying close to $500/month for my CRV and a VAN. Crazy Insurance in Canada!!
It sounded like an essay, thanks.
hh Bless you
Thank you and be well!
The most important take away from this video is the fact that you guys live below your means. This in itself invaluable even being a homeowner. This will help keep things like sudden vehicle maintenance repairs from catching you off guard. Anyhow, you guys have a good head on your shoulders and I really don't have anything to critique...although I would add AAA auto club to your monthly/annual list.
Getting a Toyota is probably the greatest thing truck wise you can do but sometimes I wonder if the gas cost offsets potential repairs. Guess it depends on the amount of repairs.
Pro tip: when you’re driving in the interstate make sure you get behind a 18 wheeler. The difference in air resistance will help with gas mileage.
Honestly I would say it more than offsets cost of repairs! Which is insane to even wrap my mind around
My friend had a diesel dodge and it blew the transmission twice and was just generally broken a lot of the time.
I was thinking about getting a gladiator and a Patriot camper from Australia. I’m kinda handy with trucks, or able to figure out most repairs, but I just don’t know if a Jeep is good for long term.
I'm not sure I'd recommend following behind an 18 wheeler. Following that close is dangerous, in my opinion. You probably don't have the proper stopping distance for the speed you'd be traveling on the Interstate. And your field of vision ahead is blocked by the trailer. I was once riding in a friend's pick up truck when my friend was "drafting" an 18 wheeler. We were coming down Interstate 5 in California. Suddenly, the spare tire mounted under the trailer on the tire rack vibrated free, broke the safety chain, bounced on the road, and flew right by us. Had the tire bounced back straight, it would shattered the cab of the truck, probably killing us. True story!
Ricardo roams you’re probably right with the tire. You can still maintain a safe distance though. I can also say they’ll have better stopping power than that 18 wheeler though. Maintain a safe distance behind them and they could probably still benefit from the change of air around them. I of course don’t know all the exact physics, not sure how close you have to be to benefit.
Also, forgive this new follower's ignorance, but what do you two do for a living that enables your nomadic lifestyle? My folks spent 18 months on the road just after my Dad's retirement. And even with that and some property income, he took odd jobs here and there to help fund the trip.
(edited to correct typos)
We're freelance designer, photographers, and videographers
Love to see a more detailed meal plan. You spend twice what my son n I do but sounds like you eat healthier.
Well we're two people. And I do like to think that we eat really well.
@@BoundForNowhere yeah, my so n I are 2 people also lol. Just curious what you're eating. A recipe book lol.
Who else clicked here to find some help with making a Time Travel budget? Oh well, still a great video.
Hahaha I dont think you are the only one ;)
@@BoundForNowhere Who needs time travel when you're living in the moment!?
Luckily I live in the U.K. so I don't have to pay for health insurance (but we do pay through other means, tax etc).
Call me stupid I know but I love Vdubs I love the basicness & part of that if most of them are getting to be 30ish years old and need work.
I'm saving up for what you'd call a vanagon at the moment. Hope you guys are both staying safe in Cali.
........Burp. :) xx
Don't get me wrong. I still loved our van and miss it dearly. it just isn't something we personally can call home
Hey guys
Hey there!
This is a very good list you did. I do think you could change it up by adding up all of the expenses that you don't have. For instance. My property taxes here in San Diego for my large home on 1 acre is $9,500 per year. That's $800 per month just to live in my own house! You have no property taxes. To water my landscaping on my 1 acre can cost up to $750 per two months for my city water bill. You really don't have much of a water bill. I could go on, but you get the idea. So I think you are doing really good! Keep going!
Can you put a link to your insurance company. I am currently paying $175.00 a month full coverage on a 2003 Kia minivan.
Wait a second, aren't there two loan installments you need to make on the new vech?
I understand this is private, not asking for the info, but I figured that would factor into the monthly cost of operating the Tundra ... not the theoretical sale price
Yes I mention that we have a separate payment for each but then refer to it as one payment since they get paid for on the same day to the same place. For the sake of comparison to our previously sold vehicle is the reason we did a hypothetical sale price.
What do you both do for work?
We're Graphic Designers, Illustrators, and Motion Graphics Designers.
What no Beer budget?
Health care, in this country, is pretty much dependent on one's job. When you lose your job, often through no fault of your own, you lose your basic health insurance. In some cases, employers don't offer basic health insurance. And for those self employed? Good luck! That's absolutely insane! The richest country in the world and we can't make basic health insurance available to all our people? Other less affluent nations somehow manage to have some form of national health care.
Their taxes to Death in those countries.
@@barrettkauffman7839 , If it was so bad, why aren't those countries scrapping their health care systems? I know that for most Canadians, their health care system is actually a source of national pride. Here in the USA, we have the most expensive health care system, per capita, in the world. And yet, we still have millions with inadequate health insurance or none at all.
And the maintenance cost of the freckles, and the cat, take top priority.
You did not mention the SUNDOWNER...??
Hahahhhhha sundowner hahahahhahaha
@@BoundForNowhere why is that funny? You had a video. It's cool....unfollowed
$56 a month for the Tacoma?! How'd you get it that low? I'm having trouble looking for anything below $120!
We have insurance through USAA and we also have home insurance through them. So we have a bundling discount with them.
@@BoundForNowhere Ah, you know what that makes sense! Thank you both, for the info!
The pleasure is al ours
How could one not "Like" especially with your little wiggle after announcing to Like your video. Great information on actual cost and what it generally cost to be on the road. How rude...but, your excused and still cute
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$97 a month for insurance? How did you get that?
It’s bare bones health insurance. Basically if can’t get insurance any other way then the government will give you really cheap insurance under the “bronze” or basic plan. Unfortunately Kat and her hubby are protected from a 150k hospital bill, and get can preventative services for free, but if they do go to the hospital or need surgery it’s still going to be what their out of pocket max is, which I believe for those cheap plans are around 15k or so.
Damn Girl you clean up nicely!!! (Sorry, couldn't control myself)
Ha! Thank you!
You didn't include the cost of the loans for your current setup.
I’m confused, at first you said $150 monthly budget for eating out, then you said you have no budget for that at the end. You also say on this video that you’re living well within your means but in your newest video you state you had a substantial amount of debt from your setup. I don’t think both statements can be true.
damn that's a lot of money
MAK check out visible mobile. They use Verizon's network and you can hotspot. With a wireless router you can get by the 1 device catch. $40.00 flat a month including all fees. Jump on and off at will. Yes I still have a crush on you.
Liked for the burp! ❤️ 😛
All I got out of this is you spent 50k on a van wagon and didn't do a wrx swap or anything
We have a Subie swap in our Vanagon. Hence all the engines
@@BoundForNowhere what?? And it still broke down all the time? Ohh and that was the interior build and everything
Gezz $50,000 to maintain a old VW Van. Could of got a new tundra platinum or a pro with that money
I know !that's what I was thinking!
Nice burb
$10k loss! Silly.
I know exactly what things cost.... But to hear someone say it "100 grand" on a video!... Really slaps ya across the chops ! LOL ;-) p.s. Your to cute! - Please don't buuurp like that! YUK!! hehehe
It was a burp. Get over it. Your unnecessary comment is what I would call "YUK".
Wow . Pretty bummed out that your numbers misleading & not realistic whatsoever. You have $100,000 in debt what’s your interest? What’s your principle payment? People could careless about when the vehicles sells and they recoup a cost. How much is ACTUALLY needed per month to operate your full setup... Also what do you do for work exactly? Fairly impressive to be caring a month cost of about $300/$3500 a month
I feel so cheated. I thought this video was about full time-travel not full time travel. What the f am I even here for? (Stays til end) fine. It was worth it anyway even if I can’t apply this to the time space continuum
if you took out loans on the Tundra, you don't own it.