(Why I chose to leave) Financial Coach Master Training Full Review
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FINANCIAL COACH MASTER TRAINING FULL REVIEW (and why I chose to leave) I wanted to do a full review of Dave Ramsey's Financial Coach Master Training because it was one of my first big investments in my business in 2018 and I get a lot of questions about my experience and eventually why I wanted to separate myself from the Ramsey Solutions brand. I also go in depth on the ongoing membership upsell known as the Ramsey Preferred Coach Program. Toward the end of the video I’ll also reveal why I ultimately chose to leave the program and why I wouldn’t recommend it for someone who is wanting to build a full time, online financial coaching practice. PLUS what I recommend instead. Over the past 2.5 almost 3 years I’ve seen so MANY money coaches get burnt out. I’ve seen so many finance coaches pivot when financial coaching “isn’t working” and they start doing business coaching or life coaching or mindset, whatever it may be. I’m here to tell you this. The issue isn’t financial coaching and the issue isn’t your clients. IT is 100% possible to build a thriving business where you attract BOMB clients that you absolutely LOVE working with. Coaching shouldn’t be a self sacrificing act. You shouldn’t do financial coaching out of guilt or shame. The root of a lot of this is a twisted mindset when it comes to wealth. Below you can find a link to more info on my Become a Coach Program, this program is for you if you want to help change lives while working from home and make more than your day job.
I teach you how to build an audience, how to sell out of integrity, and how to launch like a boss so that it’s a no brainer YES from your future clients. These are the exact same systems and procedures that I use in the my business that have generated over 150,000 in revenue. You can also find my curriculum on my website that walks you through all of the topics that we cover in my program like target market, offer definition, business finances, sales calls, lead magnet, funnels, branding, batching content, analytics… There’s not many programs out there for financial coaches and this is the ONLY one that offers ALL of those things. This is a one stop shop for teachers at heart who want to build a coaching empire. I don’t play small and neither do my coaches. We have a very real opportunity here to change our neighborhoods, our societies, our countries, and our world through financial coaching.
I appreciate your open mindedness watching this video and please know that it was not an easy video to do but definitely an honest and necessary one.
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00:00 - Disclaimer
01:21 - Financial Coach Master Training Overview
06:38 - Pros of Financial Coach Master Training
10:26 - My Experience with Dave Ramsey's Financial Coach Master Training
19:02 - Financial Coach Master Training's Faulty Philosophy
24:11 - Why I chose to leave Ramsey Preferred Coach Program
31:21 - My warning about joining Financial Coach Master Training
34:00 - My Become a Coach Program - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
Thanks for watching! Here's the link to my free Pricing Workshop: www.financialcoachjess.com/pricingworkshop Drop any question below about FCMT or my program and I'll answer ALL questions below!
How much is the course?
@@carcriticexplained172 You can check out my website in the link above to make sure it's what you are looking for before moving on to next steps with me. I have a few different payment options, but I personally want to make sure it's a perfect fit for both of us first.
I was VERY close to purchasing FCMT. This was so valuable. Thank you Jess! I am a Highschool teacher and coach who just became debt free. Looking to make the jump to financial coaching. THANKS AGAIN!
Yay!! Congrats on your huge accomplishment and welcome to the world of Financial coaching!! My background is in teaching and coaching as well. What do you teach?
@@FinancialCoachJess is
I would love watch your video on pricing for financial coaches! I cant wait Jess.
Thank you for the feedback, Todd! Definitely something I’d love to tackle in the future! Stay tuned👍🏻
I've been following Dave for years now and have always had aspirations of being a financial coach. Thank you so much for making this video
Thanks for watching!
Great video! I just found your channel today and I love it. I have considered doing the FCMT program but I’m glad I came across this video. I do not fully align with Dave’s beliefs and I have also consumed a lot of Dave Ramsey content so the training program may not as valuable as I would expect. Thank you!
Great! I’m glad it was helpful!
I’m glad I found your review! Definitely interested in your program.
Awesome, make sure you register to watch my Pricing Workshop!
Thank you so much for this in depth review. Very well laid out and I appreciate you sharing your viewpoints and experience.
You are so welcome! Thanks for taking the time to comment! 😊
great video and content, I appreciate how thorough it is and your authenticity. I was evaluating the FCMT program and this is very helpful.
Thank you for the kind comment! Feel free to check out my playlist here on TH-cam for financisl coaches! th-cam.com/play/PL5EKJmoTKicrPuLaD8D58OabHaVpadlf4.html
WOW! This is exactly how I feel about a lot of webinars and programs that are being offered. I was attentive the whole time. Thank you for sharing!
I appreciate the feedback! Thank you!
@@FinancialCoachJess wat is your web address pls
In the description!
I appreciate person like you has an integrity. I like you. So inspiring and you give full knowledge as you can.
I appreciate the kind comment! 😊
Great information. I was looking at the program and you confirmed my suspicions. I'll definitely check out you web site. Thanks again.
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching! The world definitely needs more financial coaches so don’t let it discourage you from pursuing it still! Here’s my free pricing workshop too if you’d like to learn more about my coaching philosophy: www.financialcoachjess.com/pricingworkshop
Such a great video! Was not planning on watching the whole thing when I started but watched ever second. Lol. Thank you so much for this info. I was really considering spending the money but will weigh my options now. I’m in the very infant ideas of starting this as a side business that I attempt to build as I transition from the military. Thanks again for your transparency in this video! Just got a new subscriber!
Thanks for watching and subscribing, that means so much to me! Here's the link to my free Pricing Workshop: www.financialcoachjess.com/pricingworkshop I designed it to help give viewers clarity on if coaching is right for them!
Haha - don't mind me and all my comments, I'm just binge watching your content. So I have to say your review of FCMT is fascinating to me. I took FCMT and have a review posted as well. In my review I pretty much sing its praises. I took it after only watching Dave's TH-cam channel and reading several Ramsey personality books. I took it to build my confidence to leave a corporate job and start as a completely green coach.
From that perspective the content was really enlightening and increased my confidence. Incidentally I did FPU because it was a freebie from FCMT and my review of that pretty much says not to take it if you've binged his channel and read several of his books - so much like this review of FCMT.
Anyway, I launched my coaching business 2 months ago, and now I'm grappling with all the things you're calling out in this video - CRM's, social media marketing, re-creating personal branded forms, sales and meeting scripts. I simply didn't know that those things were missing when I took FCMT, and I never did pursue RPC.
Gotcha, I think your experience is not unlike many others who finish FCMT but realize what all they are still not equipped to do. I’ve got a video coming out next Monday on how to get your first paying clients that I think you will find very helpful!
So I’m now subscribed and binge-watching lol. I’ve never taken Dave’s course. I have, however, sat through a conference many moons ago (over twenty to be exact). I was a financial advisor at the time and his program was the “competition.” There was a lot I liked at the time, the envelope system in particular. What I discovered I enjoyed the most in my job was helping people get out of debt and move forward. So years later I became an accredited financial counselor through AFCPE. (FANTASTIC program!) I loved being a financial counselor, but then family obligations came along and I let my accreditation lapse. I’ve since taught personal finance to teens at our homeschool co-op and have become a volunteer with Compass Catholic for couples and/or singles.. You are reminding me how much I miss this field.
So interesting! This is definitely in your wheelhouse! Glad to hear that you liked AFCPE. Thanks for watching, Jennifer!
Thank You very much for being transparent for sharing pros and cons from you prospective. I love that you didn’t bash the program and that you made valid points to help views like myself better understand things like becoming an RPC.
That was exactly my intent! Thanks for watching!
Wow. Thanks for this video. You've given me a lot to think about.
You’re welcome! Thanks so much for taking the time to watch! 🙏🏻
Jess, watching your video made me glad I continued doing my due diligence before signing up with Ramseys' course. I watched their video for those interested in coaching and felt the need to investigate a little more. Thanks for providing us with your genuine experience. I will definitely explore your training instead.
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching!😊
I also purchased FCMT and I can vouch for everything Jess talks about in this video.
Appreciate it! 🙌🏻🙌🏻
WOW! Thank you so much for your candid review regarding FCMT. I'm passionate about financial literacy and was about to take the plunge and make the purchase. I've been following Dave Ramsey for a bit of time and have taken FPU once. Accordingly, I consider myself a "Dave Ramsey Light" practitioner with a slightly different philosophy around credit cards and new vs used cars. Your transparency and analysis of the program not only answered my questions, it gave me a sense of peace that my gut was on the right track regarding the potential heartache down the road (since I truthfully can't practice or preach 100% of the principles). Thanks again!
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching and I totally relate to your comment! Don’t let it discourage you from becoming a financial coach, check out my playlist here for an array of info when it comes to starting a financial coaching business: th-cam.com/play/PL5EKJmoTKicrPuLaD8D58OabHaVpadlf4.html
I'm glad I found this video. Thank you for all the insite. I love Dave and watch his videos on youtube but there are plenty of things I dont agree with. I think every clients situation is unique and should be treated as such where as the baby steps is a one size fits all. Thanks again for this feedback, I will apply my money else where.
You’re so welcome! Thank you for the feedback! 👍🏻 I agree 100%
Dave Ramsey sounds like a franchise. I am glad to see you are ahead of the times with zoom, especially with Covid.
It has helped tremendously! It’s really nice now that pretty much everyone is familiar with zoom too👍🏻
Really happy you made this video. I’m considering financial coaching as an initial side hustle and am looking for REAL feedback from those that have done the FCMT. Thank you for this thorough review :)
You’re welcome! Glad it was helpful!
Same!! Thank you
You’re welcome! Enrollment for my Become a Coach program opens soon! It’s been closed the last two months for updating
I am a big fan of Dave Ramsey's work but I totally agree, you don't want to start a business just to have an outside source peeking over your shoulder, curating what you are allowed to say and do.
Absolutely! A big reason for starting your own biz is to get away from that kind of thing!
Thanks so much for this! Soooo helpful!!!
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Hi Jess, just came across your TH-cam. I'm a Ramsey MFC (also a RPC but likely leaving in 2021) and agree with you on your points. When I did the FMCT, I was in one of the last in-person groups and had training in Brentwood, TN. So we actually did get some live teaching by Dave and Chris Hogan and the other in-house coaches. It was very valuable at the time. I would have been disappointed with anything less for that price.
Hi! Thanks! Yes, they stopped doing that many years ago as they introduced the online, self paced training.
Was just about to pay for a coaching training and I believe you have helped me make a different decision, I am following you now and would like to take you coaching training.
Awesome!! If you click the pricing training above it will direct you to the training to make sure it’s a good fit for you and the program details will be listed below!🙌🏻
@@FinancialCoachJess thank you, doing that now.
Thank you for putting this video together... very helpful. Do you know what software the Financial Coach program was built with? You mentioned you used Kajabi? Thank you!
I do use kajabi! I love it! They've been very easy to work with and very reasonable prices. I think FCMT is made internally on their own coding but I could be wrong?
Thanks for watching! 😊
Complete agree with your assessment of the program. Thank God I am also plugged into another coaching group, because I got very little out of FCMT as a long time Ramsey follower. I haven't used any of their forms. In my opinion, they aren't very good or usable for the reasons you mentioned. I love your content!
Glad you got plugged in! 🙏🏻 I couldn’t believe the forms 🤦🏻♀️ such an easy thing to fix too! Thank you for the feedback, and keep coaching, there’s so many people that need help!!
This is super helpful thanks Jess 😊
You’re welcome! What are you thinking about becoming a financial coach?
Saved me 1500 bucks for Dave Ramsey program. I almost booked it yesterday but something told me to wait. Then today I almost did but it just didn’t feel right. What I keep thinking about the way some of the coaches talked to us and answered our questions on the “learn more about the Ramey solution” They were condescending, making you feel dumb and I just didn’t like that. And the people on the call just broke in front of them as they did that. It was interesting to see and feel. But I still ignored that feeling. Tonight it kept tagging at me so I decided to look up being a financial coach TH-cam and found you. This is what happens when you listen to that voice :) some call it God some call it but some call it inner voice. Point is I listened to it and it saved me money.
I look forward to your program and if that fits in my budget best believe I will register.
I’m glad this helped you make a decision! ❤️ nothing worse than buyers remorse!
I agree with everything you said about the FCMT program in this video! Although I will follow the process that I learned through FPU to coach and lead my clients to financial freedom. It's a process that works!
Love your transparency and passion to build your own coaching business. You're on your way to becoming the next well known financial guru. Keep it up!
100% agree. The Ramsey Solutions debt payoff strategy is undeniable. I'm glad that was well communicated in the video!
Aw thank you so much, Wendy! That means the world to me! :)
You just saved my wife and I close to $2,000 with this video! I'm a huge Dave Ramsey fan, have listened to him for years and have also been through FPU twice. Was thinking of investing in FCMT as I've helped a few people by introducing them to the baby steps and every dollar and I loved doing it.
Was hoping to begin financial coaching as side work with the hopes of it turning full time. Besides the financial investment in FCMT I had my reservations about whether or not I would gain new information/skills needed.
Like you, I've read the books, and listened to and watched countless hours of Dave Ramsey and team. They're awesome, I have nothing bad to say about them but if it's mostly everything I already know from years of listening then it would not be a good investment for us. Probably a great investment to someone newer to Dave Ramsey and team.
Glad you found it helpful! In September I’ll be releasing a video on pricing for coaches so make sure you come back for that one! 😊
Thank you for the information! Been thinking about becoming a financial coach and was not sure where to start. Leaning toward not with Ramsey (already have some things I disagree with him on.)
You’re welcome! You can learn more about my philosophy on coaching at my pricing workshop video too: www.financialcoachjess.com/pricingworkshop Hope that helps! 😊
Thanks, I loved this!
You’re so welcome! Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for posting this! I'm glad I found it. I've been contemplating whether to enroll in FCMT since August. My main question is were there any other financial coach training programs you took besides FCMT and could you still call yourself a Financial Coach without any type of certification? I feel like I need to take FCMT or FCA just to have that completion of certification. Another question is how is your coach program different from FCA?
Great questions! I took several other programs (and continue to higher other coaches and invest in my business) but fcmt was the only “financial coach” program that I took. It’s largely unregulated so no cert needed. My program is VERY different from fcmt and FCA is structure and content. Feel free to find out more on my website! I have a free pricing workshop if you haven’t opted in already 😊
Very helpful thank you
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching!
Thank you for this video. I was in the process of going to signup for FCMT in 2 months, but now thinking of going through your program instead. I will reach out on the website. Any information you can share will also be appreciated. Thanks again for sharing this information!
Thanks for watching! Reach out with any questions through my website and I’m happy to help! 😊
My boss is paying for me to take the course, so I will make the most of it 😊 I will also be doing my own research on the outside and build to have other sources of income to grow off of FCMT. I definitely appreciate your advice and will be watching your videos to get some free wisdom 😉
Thanks for watching!
I love your thoughts and teachings. I love Dave and what he has done but I disagree with Dave on a few points. I agree 100% with you and am glad to see you helping people! Keep up the good work!
Thank you so much! I appreciate it! 😊
IT is my dream to become a financial coach and start my own business. I have been considering FCMT, but I am wanting to learn how to coach people as well as content needed, etc. But I want to do my own business, so I don't only want Dave Ramsey Proprietary stuff. IM worried that there are too many coaches out there, and would I actually make it work? Thanks for sharing this review! Its a big investment and I want to make sure that I am doing the right thing!
There’s def a need for more coaches! The key is finding your specific ideal client snd niche. There’s so many coaches that go too broad: “I coach women” or “I coach families that make good money” I hear those ALLLLL the time. But if you really niche down, there’s a huge need. Be sure to check out my pricing workshop! www.financialcoachjess.com/pricingworkshop
Thanks for saving me the $1695 for FCMT. my hesitations were - watered down content, too constricting, and any upselling happening at the end. All three of my concerns confirmed. I do appreciate this review. Props on creating your own program - if people don't like a program someone is selling, most just complain and don't go make their own. Bravo!
You’re welcome! I’m glad it was helpful.
And also thank you, I saw there was still a need so I wanted to meet people there! I appreciate the kind comment!
Will you be attending FinCon21 this year? I agree with the lack of marketing training for coaches in the 21st century
Not this year, but hopefully next!
Great video! I was considering his program, but would like to see what your program is about. I went on your site but didn’t see any prices. Would I need to schedule a call with you?
Yes, I’m getting that set up (and will be set up by the end of Sept) if you are ok waiting! Right now the funnel is set up for discovery calls
Great video!
Thank you so much! 💖
I’m wondering if FCMT the investment if I were only to help others as a ministry and not a business. Thank you for your time!
Thanks for checking out the video! You’re welcome!😊
I do kind of agree with you about the redundancy of the content. What I’ve learned on this journey is the current information is the best. For me what’s working is all of the personalities together. Basically, I feel I can start a business or coaching through experience and reference. And yes, most of the information you want to share is already out there.
Have you taken FCMT as well? And what do you mean the current info is the best?
No I haven’t. But I am a big consumer of Ramsey products and I agree that it’s the same information over and over. I definitely feel like I have the information part down pact as far as a plan to debt freedom and building wealth. My biggest thing is getting my questions answered for some other complicated stuff as my life has been very unorthodox. I still haven’t truly connected with anyone or any 1 thing that has the information I feel like I need to really catapult my journey. But at the same time I’m learning that through experience, and results I can tell my story and if I wanted to I could create a side business with just what I have now.
Sorry if my reply is all over the place . I responded in summary of a lot of different parts of your entire video. In all, good stuff Jess.
Gotcha, I would agree that most coaches are able to start coaching just by using the info they have and that’s got them to the financial place that’s they are because personal experience and testimonial is so powerful! It’s a great place to start!
And no worries! 😊 thank you, Marquita! I appreciate it!
So I'm not sure why I'm just now finishing "this video" when I'd started it before (kids probably, ha-ha). I just want to say that I love you, even more! I found this video to be great. I just want to say, "thank you" & I look forward to your next video.
Also, I always give you a thumbs up!!!
Ahh thank you so much!!!😘😘
Jess, I enjoy your clarity in your videos, And if you do not know about (Miles Beckler) He like you very clear on how to build and grow marketing business using online tools. I like his very great explaining locating people for each unique niche. Thank You, for sharing your insights.
You’re welcome! Thank you for the kind words! ❤️
Thanks for this video, I wish I would of watched this before we committed to a financial coach that costs $1800 for 6 months. We thought it was only $300 but since it’s based on a monthly program, the cost is $1800 so we are trying to figure out if this is the right program for us. We already know how to budget and working on baby step 2 so we are not sure what else they can offer us. Any input is greatly appreciated.
Working with a coach can be super valuable IF that coach understands where you’re at, where you want to be, and exactly how to get you there. I do a lot with my clients besides just budgeting and maybe this coach does too?
Great video Jess - I’m still in the hobby phase, helping friends and family and exploring the possibility of a career as a financial coach. I haven’t taken any FC training yet. I’m looking at FCMT, FCA, and now your course. I’ve heard on Financial Coaches Unite that, like you say, FCMT is extremely light on the business set-up side of FC. I’m wondering if this is because Ramsey Solutions also has Entreleadership. Did the FCMT try to funnel you into Entreleadership as a next step?
Great question because that would make sense! I’ve looked a little bit into entreleadership (although to be honest, I didn’t finish the book) but I don’t remember them talking about the summit or anything like that at all with FCMT or RPC. Let me know if you have any other questions! 😊
r_ mitch ah! That could be they case. Entreleadership is a whole other level.
Have you been to their conference? Do they do anything else with entreleadership?
I found your video researching the FCMT program that I was considering joining. Sounds like your coaching is geared towards business building and not fulfillment. I know everyones financial situation is different I was hoping to find a good outline of info to follow for the different aspects one might cover in the fulfillmet of the actual coaching with a client. I have no experience with any of Dave Ramseys teaching so dont really have any knowledge or curriculum of my own to put financial coaching into practice. What would you suggest?
I would start with your very first client which was you! How did you get out of debt? What strategies did you put into place to save? How did you stay motivated? Accountable? Then I would start reading/watching videos. My approach to finances is very different from Dave’s. Ramit Sethi is another great finance guy (his book is my fav). Start looking at different perspectives and learning more about where people need help. I do cover curriculum building in my program and how it directly correlates to your ideal client. There is so much free info out there on how to ditch debt snd build wealth, if you’re not feeling confident, I would start there.
I'm currently going through FCMT and do live by the "Dave Ramsey principles" (which aren't really his principles like he owns them; they're just basic life truths) but even I was turned off by the idea of paying for the RPC for the same reasons you mentioned. If I'm going to launch my own practice then I'd like to be the actual freaking boss of my own practice. No disrespect to Dave and his company but if they can make you, they can break you. For me, the whole point of launching my own business is to get neck-breathers off of me, regardless of whether we see eye to eye or not haha.
Be the actual freaking boss!! 🙌🏻🙌🏻 I totally agree. Thanks for watching!
Jess, did you file as an LLC or sole proprietor? My mentor said LLC is better and that’s what she had in Texas. My tax dude says sole proprietor 🤦♀️ Idk what to do
I would def listen to your tax professional!!🙌🏻
I filed as an LLC because it is very easy and inexpensive to do so in Missouri. I don’t know that there are any inherent drawbacks to getting your LLC. I filed my taxes as a sole prop though (soon to be s corp)
Hi Jess quick question is it worth doing the Dave Ramsay course if you live in the UK, Thanks
I explain why I don’t believe the Dave Ramsey course is a good investment throughout the video!
@@FinancialCoachJess Thanks Jess 21.34 was very funny and true, having a look at your website video, all the best to you going forward.
Appreciate it! Be sure to watch my free pricing workshop for financial coaches! www.financialcoachjess.com/pricingworkshop
I couldn't get the video to open. Really would have liked to watch it.
That's very strange, might be an internet connection issue. I would try again!
Great video! Interested in your program. You and I seem to agree on alot of things. I'm debt free(except my house!), and agree principly with Dave. I, like you, don't agree with his philosophy on credit cards, and credit scores.
Thank you! Be sure to check out my pricing workshop for more info on my Become a Coach program and see if it’s a good fit for you!👍🏻 I’d love to answer any questions you have during the workshop too
I’m looking to become a self employed financial coach, does your program touch on this?
Yes! That’s exactly what it teaches! Check out my free pricing workshop, you can learn more about my philosophy when it comes to coaching and you can see the program curriculum: www.financialcoachjess.com/pricingworkshop
Gald I saw your video before I bought the Dave Ramsey program because I believe there are many financial ways to build wealth and protect your family. How does your program differ from Dave's? I'm looking into the business to balance out my financial offerings to help families.
Hi, Jeff. Great question, I'm glad you asked. Two big differences.
The first being the content. I've built it to help my coaches get paying clients and start their business off in a sustainable way (having automated systems, best practices, identifying an ideal client, etc.) I don't focus much on financial concepts with them because there's so much free info available for how to pay off debt and build wealth. What I found most coaches were needing was help getting clients and actually building their business. We go over the specific concepts for their individual client but that varies vastly among all my coaches!
The second big difference is delivery. FCMT is a self paced course as I explained in the video. Right now, my program consists of high touch, 1-1 sessions so everything is tailored to my coaches. I meet weekly with my coaches throughout the program so there is no guess work and no overwhelm for them. We simply move the needle forward each week, and the support + accountability has been incredible for seeing results quickly.
To find out more about my philosophy on coaching and my Become a Coach program, make sure to watch my FREE Pricing Workshop for financial coaches: www.financialcoachjess.com/pricingworkshop
Wow !! I’m about to purchase FCMT….
To each their own! 🤷🏻♀️
I was wondering what the pros a cons of Ramsey FMCT were and was it right for me. Dave Ramsey is enjoying the fruits of his labor after he and others have worked for years are now enjoying semi retirement.
The Ramsey name is being rehashed, offering no new content.
Unfortunately, people will be buying this because of the Ramsey name and nothing else. 😕
I was a part of a mega Baptist church located in Memphis TN back in 2004 whose paster Adrian Roger's and the rest of the leadership sponsored Dave Ramsey workshops every year, meaning that congregation members had to buy Financial Peace University materials. Dave Ramsey himself showed up and shared his testimonial, which you've heard hundreds of times, but back then, I was naive and didn't know better, and even followed the Debt snowball effect, which did work after 7 years I became debt free.
Dave Ramsey is a professional salesman who's as charismatic as they come . Remember Bill Clinton and how popular he was as our president.
Because of the popularity and branding of the Ramsey family name, and since their reputation isn't tarnished the organization realizes that people will be spending money on materials in the hopes of meeting him only to be let down.
Can you point me to the video where you speak on how much you charge? I can’t find it
All on my website! www.financialcoachjess.com/
So, can you take FCMT and not do the RPC?
Yes they are two separate offers.
I signed up for the workshop and never got an email
Check your spam and wait until the end of the day, if you still haven’t wrote a note from the chat box on my website and I’ll send it over that way!
You sound like a great coach
You are so sweet! Thank you! 😊
I can see why you think FCMT was too basic on the info, and lacking in the business end.
This is besides the point, but I felt the same after purchasing Ken Coleman's career assessment, and reading his The Proximity Principle book. Dave Ramsey promotes him as the career guru, but I disagree. I felt the material in the book was broad and too general. The career recommendations from the assessment were confusing to me. Some were just not right for me. I was left very disappointed after reading the book and completing the assessment, which cost me $50. I felt I got no ROI, since I am no closer getting a job.
Good video.
Exactly, I think you hit the nail on the head!
Hey just found your channel great video. I also went through the and recently got certified. I share your thoughts on the program. Would you be open to having a conversation/possible collab to discuss other alternatives for new and upcoming financial coaches.
Thanks for watching! I think I saw you on a different channel… were you interviewed on Wealth Nation?? I LOVED that video!
@@FinancialCoachJess yes that was me thank you glad you liked it
Awesome! Yes, let’s definitely connect and talk more. I’m on vacation right now until sept 1st but I would love to do a collab or something this fall!
@@FinancialCoachJess sounds great let me know where to go to reach out
@@FinancialCoachJess and enjoy your vacation
Looking for a place now to become a financial coach.
Oh hi, John! It’s been awhile since we have connected. I think last time we talked, you were thinking about Bookkeeper Launch. Did you end up joining?
They would probably upsell the business boutique or entreleadership
There’s wasnt a whole lot of upwelling into those because they pushed becoming an RPC so much. I tried to read entreleadership a few years ago and I couldn’t even finish it, it was so slow! 🥴 I was so disappointed!
So you usually got 2 leads per month? How do you even close those? I would think since many people love Dave he would send you more leads for the price you’re paying.
He’s still a legend though
Yes, it was on average two leads per month at the time. Usually they weren’t well informed of what they were opting into though!
Jess, our stories are SO similar.
Yay! Tell me more! When did you go through fcmt/rpc?
Feb 2018. Seriously I'd love to chat sometime 😅
And you're a former teacher/coach! Same!!
Yep! I taught high school for 3.5 years
Thanks. I decided not to spend the 2300 on this. I agree with Dave Ramsey about a lot of things. However, with today's technology I believe the Avalanche method is far better.
Fair assessment!
@@FinancialCoachJess I will look into your program after my psychology degree is done.
@@terrierislander1 sounds good! 😊👍🏻
Jess, as a seasoned "high" priced financial coach of 10 years I'd love to chat with you offline. How can I connect with you?
Hi! I don’t do calls like that right now but you can ask me anything here on TH-cam! 😊
@@FinancialCoachJess no questions in particular. Just would love to network and share connections and resources.
What are your thoughts on signing up to Dave leads $125 and $25 per every lead?
I talk about RPC in the video and the quality of the leads
If you do FCMT but not become an RPC, is it problematic if you don't align completely with Dave's teachings? I ask because I own a financial company and am looking to expand our offerings. We do credit repair and would love to get into financial coaching, but the Dave Ramsey name brings a lot of "street cred" with it.
Yes, if you use Dave’s name as a marketing advantage you must align with his teachings.
Trust me, the “street cred” isn’t worth it 😂 anyone who has heard of Dave will just do the baby steps anyway and the younger generation that is graduating high school/college now doesn’t resonate with or watch Dave at all so it’s really just not worth it.
Yep. I left too.
Scott! You’re in stl right? I think our paths briefly crossed a few years ago when we were both in RPC?
Hope you’re doing well!
@@FinancialCoachJess yes indeed. Ofallon. Looks like things are going great for you! Yeah!
So fun! Yes, just came back from maternity leave a few months ago. Thank you!
I was looking to get into the program, but I was turned off by how they deal and how Ramsey deals with opposing views. The “you’re stupid”, and “credit cards are stupid and if you think otherwise you’re an idiot” just let me know that’s not the type of people that I want to learn from.
I see coaches as leaders that people want to follow. People are not gonna want to follow someone that calls them idiots or dumb.
So I was considering Ramsay’s course, but I’m just not anymore.
That’s fair! It’s important to look at a course as a whole and who it represents.
Have you watched my free pricing workshop? The link is above!
Still haven't gotten an enail
Found it in promotions
Found it in promotions
I've enjoyed Dave Ramsey's principles and I don't know much about the coach training but I get the feeling that the baby stops and the other principles have been repackaged and sold to the furthest extent possible and so this is another way to sell it. They went from customers and got into prisons and schools but there's not only so far you can go with that.
Agreed. Instead of something totally different and advanced it felt like a rehashing of FPU and the baby steps
It sounds like she was looking for more like entra leadership. Also he freely admits he isn't in the tech savvy group of humans.
I've read it😆
But he runs a multimillionaire dollar marketing/tech company🤷🏻♀️ somebody over there knows what they are doing. And they didn't include that info which was disappointing.
Did you make your returns on investment back. We are everyday millionaires. The program works but I different from Dave is i buy FXAIX. Retired at 42
What do you mean? I’m not sure I understand the question
Of course Chris Hogan was let go. So he's probably not on the videos now.
Yes, they have other employees working on the RPC aspect of ramsey solutions so I’d have to look back at the dashboard but I’m sure they are working on re-recording that material.
I love Daves ideas on helping people get out of debt but as a Professional debt collection agency owner he gives absolutely horrible advice on dealing with old debt and collectors in general. His advice to just blow debt off and refuse to talk with creditors is poor advice for someones FICO. He needs someone with credit and collection expertise on his team.
I haven’t heard that advice from Dave, and that’s not what he taught in fcmt. Where did you hear him teach that? I’ve heard him say to keep in contact with collections and settle the debt for about 60% after it’s been sold a few times.
@@FinancialCoachJess Jessie mainly on his radio call in. I think Dave has some great info to get debtors out of debt I just don't like some of the ways he advises on old debt. I haven't purchased any info from him but I do use his baby step advice when I speak to people.
Gotcha, I don’t doubt that. I’ve heard him contradict himself before on the radio show so that makes sense!
I just went to purchase your course and said to myself . No Thank You and No Way-:)
you totally stole lines from Chris Hogan, lol. (gym membership/doing your clients a disservice). Course has also been updated by the way.
The video is over a year old so I would hope so 😂
Really good video. Only thing is the whole using Dave to advertise your own coaching platform.. not nice 😅
What makes you say that?
Maybe the video should’ve been titled Dave’s coaching program review ( and why I decided to leave and create my own)
I feel that you promoted your business more than anything. Therefore, creating a biased environment.
I do like your content for sure tho
I think it would be a disservice to people if they are looking for what I offer and not present it as an option. I was very intentional to spend the vast majority of the video talking about FCMT since that was the focus of the video. Just a different perspective!
Dave is a bit Slimy. He makes money off of the companies that he promotes even if they are scams. A questionable POS in my opinion-:(
I don't feel that we could ever do business together. It is hard to trust someone that builds their business by tearing down another one. It is obvious that you are a professional of some sorts, but more is expected from a professional. Talking down about another company is never a good trait that I find useful.
Would you rather me lie? People ask my opinion of this program constantly.
@@FinancialCoachJess No. That would be just as bad. Do it one on one. Business ethics! Just sayin!
Just as bad? 🤔🤔🤔 I think lying would be FAR worse considering I was extremely respectful in this video and said many good things about the ramsey brand as well.
I think you underestimate how many people asked me about this before I posted the video. It’s got about 7.5k views now, if I took 30+ minutes to explain my perspective to everyone that asked, I wouldn’t have a business at all. Gotta value your time and learn to confront issues respectfully, honestly, and unapologetically as they will come up in business!
Can you get to the point up front. Example, “Greedy Dave wants your money for things you can free on the internet”.
😂😂😂👌🏻