I saw a K-28 in the thumbnail so I clicked. :D Edit: Guess I'm flying to Toronto to punch you. :P The Rio Grande had 4 classes of K's - the K-27, K-28, K-36, and K-37. 491, my babe, is a K-37. That model in scrap mechanic of the K-28 is legitimately insanity. Props to the creator!
many thanks, and yes, you are right, building this locomotive was insane, I spent many hours looking at photos and videos of the k-28 in order to rebuild it in scrap mechanic as faithfully as possible (apart from the extra counterweights on all the wheels which for me is nicer to look at as well as being useful as a second attachment to the wheel, important for the strange physics of S.M.); among the next trains that I am planning to build there could also be a small locomotive that I saw in one of your videos, capable of climbing mountains with a simple gear that hooks onto teeth in the middle of the rails; If I ever get around to building it, there's a good chance it will end up in a KAN video
hello, the creator of the del Rio Grande k28 here, thanks for choosing it for the video and I'm happy that you liked it, I'm amazed that it worked in physics 7 because the walshaerts v.g.s. and built to work best in pH 4/5; regarding the control of the walshaerts system, I tried to make it as realistic as possible to how the locomotives actually work, it has 3 speeds explained in more detail in the description, in short, for the first you press 2 which is for forward, then 1 to activate the pistons, for the second you press 2 again to set the second speed, then for the third it is a bit buggy, by pressing 3 you can still get a small boost in speed but it could happen that the train stops and starts to go in reverse, to go in reverse do the same movements but reversing 2 and 3.
In case anyone hasn’t stated it already, the 473 is a D&RGW K-28 and is located at the Durango and Silverton Narrow Gauge in Durango, Colorado. The one that Hyce runs at the Colorado Railroad Museum is Denver and Rio Grande Western 491, a K-37. The biggest class of 2-8-2 that the Grande produced.
hi, I'm the creator of the rgb strip. Each light cell has 18 warehouse lights, the cones of these lights can mix thus allowing it to display many colors with fewer lights.
4:38 for those wondering its the pigs plane from the movie Porco Rosco from Studio Ghibli, I highly recomend watching it was a quite the fantastic movie. And yes its set in Italy so that is infact the italian flag!
Sea Plane, red, italian flag colors for reference, "pig" edition. Poor kAN doesn't have the proper culture to know what this was until others told him. Accurate take off.
13:52 The clutch explains it; that's what makes it like a ratchet. The piston moves while the clutch transfers rotational motion and moves the other way while the clutch is disengaged; then, it's quite easy to control which part of the phase the clutch engages for, allowing forward and reverse. (I presume those double bearing clutches are basically always slipping while engaged because of Scrap Mechanic's Physics.)
I've said it once, I'll say it a thousand times. As weird as the shay is for being offset like that, you can work on it/fix it anywhere without having to drag it over a pit.
However, because the Driveshaft is on one side, the Problem that the Driveshaft will change in Length depending on the Curve it's on appears. Additionally, over the Length of the Axle, some Torque will "disappear"
11:13 Slight shame that kAN didn't plug the pressure engine into the Dyno. Would have been interesting to compare it against a conventional piston engine.
It would have kept on spinning if he had decided to delete the gas engine like it said to do in the description. That one makes close to 2000 horsepower.
Thanks for featuring my plane kAN!!!! I'm so excited to see one of my builds on a channel I've been watching for so long :) (P.S the bubble block is exactly as you see it, the glitched bubble block is surprisingly heavy)
the engine at the colorado railroad museum is a D&rgw 491 which is a K-37. the D&rgw 473, the K-28 in this video is operated by the durango and silverton. also just a dumb little nit pick. the counterweights are wrong. but beyond that its really really cool.
good eye, yes, there are six counterweights that shouldn't be there, there are two reasons why I put them, one aesthetic and one technical, the aesthetic one is because it was nicer to see for me, while the technical one is that each wheel is connected externally with two pistons to the counterweights, horizontally and I couldn't put a single piston in the center because the bearing was already there
Shay's were developed for the Logging industry which normal locomotives couldn't get up those massive hills. There was also a prototype engine that untilized regular logs as rails. It didn't go far from that but Shay's and their geared down wheels allowed the trains to pull massive loads to and from logging camps
Hyce has K-37 No. 491 at the museum. K-28 No.s 473, 476, and 478 are on the Durango & Silverton. 470-472, 474-475, 477, and 479 were taken by the government to run in Alaska and Canada in WWII, and were scrapped instead of honoring the return and were not even paid for, so it screwed the D&RGW over pretty badly. They’re known as the “Sport Models”, the 28s, because they handled so well-like a sports car vs a sedan/saloon car-the K-27s had 20 total, but only 463 and 464 still exist and were called “Mud Hens” for the “waddled” down the tracks in the early years. The 28s were a massive improvement from the start rather than a conversion like the K-27s had.
Typically seaplanes always have a hard time taking off irl aswell because of all the friction. Btw the plane’s from Porco Rosso, an underrated Studio Ghibli movie, 100% recommended.
As a child i played on a Baureihe 80 regularly. It was decommissioned and parked in the back of a switchyard where we could sneak in as children and play on. It was torched apart years later.
The 4 cylinder looks like a bigger version of an air compressor on a semi truck but with 4 cylinders, or it looks like the new concept idea of a new 2 stroke engine where it works with intake stroke, compression stroke, combustion, then exhaust with each cylinder doing one job
the water thing where it feels like you are stuck and cant pull out is realistic, water vehicles have a suction type deal when they are exiting the water
1:44 unfolded onion box can solve that and I actually made a simulator doesn’t explode however I figured that part would just be annoying because it actually fits on the tracks and you can pull stuff with it
All you need to do to get the plane to take off from the water is to put flaps on the front set of wings to get more force downward that’ll get you out of the water
How dare you sir! Shays were actually a pretty revolutionary solution for a cheap, easy to build steam locomotive. They originally were built literally from flat bed railcars and it worked very well and was pretty reliable. Shame on you! However all these creations are awesome and I loved watching you video. Cheers friend
The flying boat is fictional prototype of italian Savoia s-21 from anime movie I cant remember name for. It does closely resemble the real SIAI S.21, and more closely resembles the Macchi M.33
For the Pressure Engine, you need to dyno us to see how much power it makes. Then since it uses a gas engine, dyno just the gas engine and subtract its power o see how much power the glitch adds. EDIT: may as well dyno the ratchet engine too.
What happened to the piston engine episodes and you could maybe try building a compact engine that has high performance and then making it look more like a real engine and then maybe putting it on a car or train or whatever
Ok thank you for your time today I appreciate you getting ready for the school year so I’ll let you know if you have time for the next week if so you need me a little more than anything else you can come over to help my friend help my mom help my dad and sage for a little more time today or later when you come back to me see you if I have time for a little more work and then you come over and sage with my dad. Period
About the pressure engines. I'm pretty sure that pressure engine was constructed just to maximize power per piston, which is why it is so big (it has 800hp/piston I think, while most regular engines have 25-30hp/piston). However, it does not need to be that big; I was able to make a regular-sized B8 (7x5x3), which has 370hp/piston (aka 2900hp total), but the flywheel is way too heavy to be good on most cars. The best I got was an unstable 140 km/h with a bunch of wasted power through the clutch (wasted power because a solid clutch would stall the engine or flip over the car 100 times).
The engine by spacewalk has about 600 hp per piston, but DenseFrost made one that goes up to 800 per. Hope that kAN revisits the pressure engine. Edit: The maximum hp per piston unofficially is 1000 per piston for pressure engine.
What things should we build in Scrap Mechanic? It has been a bit but I'm looking to get back into some fun projects!
hi kAN
Idk but, I kinda wanna see you try and build some valve gear! maybe even a whole train
it would be cool to see you try to build just the Johnson Bar on its own just to see if you can
Have you ever played a game called Space Engineers?
You should build a plane
I saw a K-28 in the thumbnail so I clicked. :D
Edit: Guess I'm flying to Toronto to punch you. :P
The Rio Grande had 4 classes of K's - the K-27, K-28, K-36, and K-37. 491, my babe, is a K-37.
That model in scrap mechanic of the K-28 is legitimately insanity. Props to the creator!
hi hyce!
many thanks, and yes, you are right, building this locomotive was insane, I spent many hours looking at photos and videos of the k-28 in order to rebuild it in scrap mechanic as faithfully as possible (apart from the extra counterweights on all the wheels which for me is nicer to look at as well as being useful as a second attachment to the wheel, important for the strange physics of S.M.);
among the next trains that I am planning to build there could also be a small locomotive that I saw in one of your videos, capable of climbing mountains with a simple gear that hooks onto teeth in the middle of the rails; If I ever get around to building it, there's a good chance it will end up in a KAN video
I am sure you 2 could make some amazing videos being in the same room, while you are there, after you are done punching him :D
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KAN IS IN TORONTO?!?!?! no wayyy
hello, the creator of the del Rio Grande k28 here, thanks for choosing it for the video and I'm happy that you liked it, I'm amazed that it worked in physics 7 because the walshaerts v.g.s. and built to work best in pH 4/5;
regarding the control of the walshaerts system, I tried to make it as realistic as possible to how the locomotives actually work, it has 3 speeds explained in more detail in the description, in short, for the first you press 2 which is for forward, then 1 to activate the pistons, for the second you press 2 again to set the second speed, then for the third it is a bit buggy, by pressing 3 you can still get a small boost in speed but it could happen that the train stops and starts to go in reverse,
to go in reverse do the same movements but reversing 2 and 3.
THE K-37’S GOT CONVERTED?!
@@masonalwolf2770 what do you mean?
My train is based on the k-28
@@Redstonista I meant it as a joke lel I know it’s a K-28 but saying “THE K-28’S GOT CONVERTED?!” To me doesn’t roll off the tongue very well
I still can't understand the joke but ok
@@RedstonistaIt's a meme on Hyce's channel. Your 473 is amazing btw
In case anyone hasn’t stated it already, the 473 is a D&RGW K-28 and is located at the Durango and Silverton Narrow Gauge in Durango, Colorado. The one that Hyce runs at the Colorado Railroad Museum is Denver and Rio Grande Western 491, a K-37. The biggest class of 2-8-2 that the Grande produced.
He was close
hi, I'm the creator of the rgb strip. Each light cell has 18 warehouse lights, the cones of these lights can mix thus allowing it to display many colors with fewer lights.
4:38 for those wondering its the pigs plane from the movie Porco Rosco from Studio Ghibli, I highly recomend watching it was a quite the fantastic movie. And yes its set in Italy so that is infact the italian flag!
Porco's plane was difficult to takeoff, so the build is accurate
Didn't even had to scroll for this. My man of colture!
Indeed :)@@projous
haha thank you for explaining to everyone :)
Sea Plane, red, italian flag colors for reference, "pig" edition. Poor kAN doesn't have the proper culture to know what this was until others told him. Accurate take off.
Kan Hyce has a K37 at the crrm, the number is 491
K-37 Kitchen
13:52 The clutch explains it; that's what makes it like a ratchet. The piston moves while the clutch transfers rotational motion and moves the other way while the clutch is disengaged; then, it's quite easy to control which part of the phase the clutch engages for, allowing forward and reverse. (I presume those double bearing clutches are basically always slipping while engaged because of Scrap Mechanic's Physics.)
I've said it once, I'll say it a thousand times. As weird as the shay is for being offset like that, you can work on it/fix it anywhere without having to drag it over a pit.
2:30 except train axles are fixed to both wheels so if you apply torque to eiither side wheel, both of them will turn at the same rate.
However, because the Driveshaft is on one side, the Problem that the Driveshaft will change in Length depending on the Curve it's on appears. Additionally, over the Length of the Axle, some Torque will "disappear"
11:13 Slight shame that kAN didn't plug the pressure engine into the Dyno. Would have been interesting to compare it against a conventional piston engine.
Yea. i fully expected that he would plug it into the dyno
It would have kept on spinning if he had decided to delete the gas engine like it said to do in the description. That one makes close to 2000 horsepower.
18:16
Nice D&RGW k-28 473
thanks
Thanks for featuring my plane kAN!!!! I'm so excited to see one of my builds on a channel I've been watching for so long :)
(P.S the bubble block is exactly as you see it, the glitched bubble block is surprisingly heavy)
And for anyone curious, it is based off the Savoia S.21 from the movie Porco Rosso.
thats my favorite Ghibli movie, your design for it is spot on!@@gogofuntime_yt
@@Captain_EFFF Thank you so much it means alot! I love that movie too :)
the engine at the colorado railroad museum is a D&rgw 491 which is a K-37. the D&rgw 473, the K-28 in this video is operated by the durango and silverton. also just a dumb little nit pick. the counterweights are wrong. but beyond that its really really cool.
good eye, yes, there are six counterweights that shouldn't be there, there are two reasons why I put them, one aesthetic and one technical, the aesthetic one is because it was nicer to see for me, while the technical one is that each wheel is connected externally with two pistons to the counterweights, horizontally and I couldn't put a single piston in the center because the bearing was already there
@@Redstonista that’s the beauty with art, it’s open to personal interpretation.
Shay's were developed for the Logging industry which normal locomotives couldn't get up those massive hills. There was also a prototype engine that untilized regular logs as rails. It didn't go far from that but Shay's and their geared down wheels allowed the trains to pull massive loads to and from logging camps
Hyce has K-37 No. 491 at the museum. K-28 No.s 473, 476, and 478 are on the Durango & Silverton. 470-472, 474-475, 477, and 479 were taken by the government to run in Alaska and Canada in WWII, and were scrapped instead of honoring the return and were not even paid for, so it screwed the D&RGW over pretty badly. They’re known as the “Sport Models”, the 28s, because they handled so well-like a sports car vs a sedan/saloon car-the K-27s had 20 total, but only 463 and 464 still exist and were called “Mud Hens” for the “waddled” down the tracks in the early years. The 28s were a massive improvement from the start rather than a conversion like the K-27s had.
7:20 That's true, but these are not red, White and green. This combination have only four countries. Italy, Hungary, Belarus and Bulgaria.
Correct, but I decided to take some creative liberties due to the limitations of the wings mod ;)
The seaplane took off, and it has a yaw damper! Damn y'all make some cool stuff. Thanks for the video ☺️
Typically seaplanes always have a hard time taking off irl aswell because of all the friction. Btw the plane’s from Porco Rosso, an underrated Studio Ghibli movie, 100% recommended.
4:24 Ahh! "Pig edition" lol, it's the plane from "Porco Rosso" by Hayao Miyazaki. I just saw that a few days ago
Indeed it is very much based on the Savoia S.21 from the film Porco Rosso. Good eye!
As a child i played on a Baureihe 80 regularly. It was decommissioned and parked in the back of a switchyard where we could sneak in as children and play on. It was torched apart years later.
The 4 cylinder looks like a bigger version of an air compressor on a semi truck but with 4 cylinders, or it looks like the new concept idea of a new 2 stroke engine where it works with intake stroke, compression stroke, combustion, then exhaust with each cylinder doing one job
Hyce has a k37 at the museum. Still a k series tho
@7:25 I think this is the plane from the anime "Porco Roso" from Studio Gibli
Yes it is, very good Studio Ghibli movie :)
Kan, you are close about saying that K 28 steamer is like what hyce has at the museum, but the one there is a K 37.
Hyce has tempted too many people to make narrow gauge trains
the water thing where it feels like you are stuck and cant pull out is realistic, water vehicles have a suction type deal when they are exiting the water
kAN on the pressure engine you are spossed to unplug the gas engine once it's going i believe.
Yep.
Should have a glitch welding multiplayer Monday challenge
1:44 unfolded onion box can solve that and I actually made a simulator doesn’t explode however I figured that part would just be annoying because it actually fits on the tracks and you can pull stuff with it
All you need to do to get the plane to take off from the water is to put flaps on the front set of wings to get more force downward that’ll get you out of the water
Kan why don't you upload multiplayer mondays
yeah I wonder that too
I’ve been curious about this as well.
Yea
well as a channel and making TH-cam his career he's missing out of some massive viewership..
That is a very good question
Day 2 of asking Khan to go in first person inside of vehicles
Kwn, i could be mistaken but i think that hyce has a vid with the german tank engine in derail valley that was before the simulator update
Was waiting for the dyno on the pressure engine!
How dare you sir! Shays were actually a pretty revolutionary solution for a cheap, easy to build steam locomotive. They originally were built literally from flat bed railcars and it worked very well and was pretty reliable. Shame on you! However all these creations are awesome and I loved watching you video. Cheers friend
The flying boat is fictional prototype of italian Savoia s-21 from anime movie I cant remember name for. It does closely resemble the real SIAI S.21, and more closely resembles the Macchi M.33
Why always the beautiful creation are in the best builds ?
3 locomotives in one episode and nothing blew up! xD
the Plane is presented in an Anime, it names Porco Rosso.
In that the main character flys this Plane
Its the plane from the studio ghibli film porco rosso. Great film would recommend
i should finish my 3d printer so i can mabye get in one of these vids
I would love to see that 👍
kAN can you please build that 6-axis robot arm you were talking abt 3 months ago, with the variable speed?
493 is what they have at the museum
Yep, it is an italian flag lol
Ayo the plane from porco rosso
And yes it's Italian
2:36 but Kan. It ain't stupid if it works
you should do a build batle with Hyce .
Make a video with all the types of engines in scrap mechanic
7:22 I laughed so hard
The Colorado railroad museum has a K-27 not a K-28. It’s D&RG 491.
why no zeepkeist?
baureihe means model series if this helps :D
Thats true but there is no proper translation to it (im german and the creator of the Baureihe 80 XD)
Boat planes in scrap mechanic needs flaps
I do agree with you, but I couldn't find an easy way to add flaps after I was happy with how the wings turned out :)
Hey kan there's this new game called Gear Blocks that just came out it looks like something you'd have fun with.
For the Pressure Engine, you need to dyno us to see how much power it makes.
Then since it uses a gas engine, dyno just the gas engine and subtract its power o see how much power the glitch adds.
EDIT: may as well dyno the ratchet engine too.
The gas engine is used to start the engine and it runs by itself. Really wish he had taken the engine off 😢
hook the pressure engine to the dyno
PLease correct me if Im wrong, but is that Porco Rosso and his seaplane?!?!?!
Correct! I was inspired to make the famous plane in Scrap Mechanic :)
@@gogofuntime_yt that is so awesome. Now I NEED to to subscribe to that plane. Looks awesome.
Only 20 mins ago?? I'm never this early 😂
Hyce is going to be mad because you dont know the k-37 491 yet
Hyde has a K-27 and it’s number is 491
you should try to build a big boy steam engine or some one else should
What happened to the piston engine episodes and you could maybe try building a compact engine that has high performance and then making it look more like a real engine and then maybe putting it on a car or train or whatever
the plane is based on the ghibli film Porco Rosso
The red plane is from a anime called porco rosso
I keep hearing about the piston turbine. What is it and how do I find it?
I remember when their was 9 of them running on the grande oh what a time until Government showed up
Kan could you build a piston engine that uses this principle that doesn't need a gas engine to start
Hyce had a k-37 I think
"Baureihe" equals "model series".
C the class b Shay appeared in scrap man's video
Sea Plan ---Tail must be higher than wings to give more take off angel. Stay Mellow Ppl´s
Mark has a K 37 not a k28
The plain flag is italy🇮🇹 or mexico 🇲🇽
I feel slightly offended (for no reason at all), that kAN never watched Porco Rosso
Lol I don't mind, I'm pleasently surprised to see how many people know it!
Is this game even still live? What ?! i tought it was abandon. Ow wait. It is... Anyway
The last update was two weeks ago
bread
That pressure engine is similar to the ones used in the titanic
Italian flag: 🇮🇹 Hungarian flag: 🇭🇺
:jakepeter:
"Baureihe" is just "model series" in German...
italian flag
Ok thank you for your time today I appreciate you getting ready for the school year so I’ll let you know if you have time for the next week if so you need me a little more than anything else you can come over to help my friend help my mom help my dad and sage for a little more time today or later when you come back to me see you if I have time for a little more work and then you come over and sage with my dad. Period
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About the pressure engines. I'm pretty sure that pressure engine was constructed just to maximize power per piston, which is why it is so big (it has 800hp/piston I think, while most regular engines have 25-30hp/piston).
However, it does not need to be that big; I was able to make a regular-sized B8 (7x5x3), which has 370hp/piston (aka 2900hp total), but the flywheel is way too heavy to be good on most cars. The best I got was an unstable 140 km/h with a bunch of wasted power through the clutch (wasted power because a solid clutch would stall the engine or flip over the car 100 times).
The engine by spacewalk has about 600 hp per piston, but DenseFrost made one that goes up to 800 per. Hope that kAN revisits the pressure engine.
Edit: The maximum hp per piston unofficially is 1000 per piston for pressure engine.