A Piston Powered Muscle Car, Steam Locomotive and MORE of Your Best Builds!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ก.ค. 2024
- Today we're back in Scrap Mechanic with YOUR BEST BUILDS! These creations are submitted by you guys through my discord and today we're going to look at some of the ones that stood out!
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#scrapmechanic #kangaming - เกม
What other things should we build in Scrap Mechanic?
do the challenge mode again with the the stuff you learned like the trammel gear and better piston engine mechanics people said?
A walking chicken that poops
U da best, kAN
Piston powered hovercraft
I would love to see KAN attempt to make a piston powered locomotive AFTER he learns how to make powerful engines.
A tip with sm trains is they barely ever need more than phys simple 7. The diesel you looked at is designed for phys simple 1, as many trains with simple engines are. Physics settings sometimes break pistons and suspension, but creations with only bearings often can get away with it.
12:25 Ok here's the answers to all of your questions about my train:
The whole thing is designed to operate on physics 1. Despite how that may sound, it works just fine. There are ways to make basically any build work on physics 1. You just have to design it correctly.
The massive amount of lag you experienced and the various malfunctions like the doors not opening were because you never turned the physics all the way down. It does say to do this in the description, but I guess you did not read it. :P
The barrier blocks between the cars are not meant to be removed. They are a normal part of the coupling system. You just delete one of the two blocks and put it back to uncouple, and weld the two blocks together to couple.
No, the train cars are not meant to be separated before driving the train. The whole thing works as-is. Even longer trains are possible, but one engine and ten cars is the reasonable limit.
Covered hoppers like the first car often carry grain, but they can be used to transport many other bulk products that need to be kept out of the weather, like plastic pellets, potash, salt, sand, cement, and many others. That one specifically would transport fertilizer.
I'm pretty sure haybales don't ever get transported by train for various logistical reasons. Why are there bales on my train though? Because reasons.
The tanker car has the paint scheme of Proko Fuel and Oil company (which is fictional), so yes, it could have cooking oil inside. I was imagining something more dangerous like jet fuel though. :P
The big yellow area on the last car is inspired by real hopper cars. Some hoppers are designed to be turned completely upside-down by rotary dumpers to unload their contents. These cars are equipped with a rotary coupler on one end, which is able to twist to remove the need to decouple the cars when using the dumper. The colored end of the hopper marks which end of the car has the rotary coupler.
Oh and the whole train is not meant to be specifically farm supply, but the first three cars are farm-related.
What would the box car be for?
@@TheDistinctor4195 It's a mixed freight train, so that boxcar could be for anything. It's empty so it could be on that train to get moved to another yard where it can be loaded with whatever.
@@turnerdeedo4633 ok thanks
So you intended the tanker to be, as Hyce would call it, an “explody boi”?~
@@Naro_Rivers Heh heh yeah I guess!
About the clutch in the last build, its refered to as a double bearing clutch in the community and uses the torque of the engine its connected to while turned off to transfer power through (engine is on when clutch is disengaged, but doesnt add any power to the driveshaft), the only slight issue with them is that you cant pass more torque through them than the torque of the engine connected to them.
It was my build, it used 8 bearings in the clutch, so I got 4 times the torque of a regular electric double-bearing clutch. So it is, In fact, not a slight issue.
@@ig-rd5923yea using more bearings can mitigate this issue (even though you have to use more joints), but I was referring to the double bearings which just use 2, also since an electric engine only has 1000Nm of torque, the clutch with 8 bearings will only withstand as much torque as a controller bearing, but its probably not an issue in your drive train.
@@Ben_Bingo An engine in scrap mechanic, strangley enough, has twice the resitance when off, as it does when powering a bearing forward. Additionally, a regular double bearing has 2 bearings, so a regular electric double-bearing has 4000NM(tested). So one with 8 bearings has 16000NM, which is a lot more than a controller. But yea, I guess you're right, it is no longer a double-bearing if it has 8 bearings lol.
So, it can literally has clutch slip?
@@ig-rd5923 oh yea, forgot about the engines doing that, however I always though that the double bearing clutch has the torque limitations of a single bearing, its quite possible I tested this on a way earlier version of my dyno that didnt work great
We need more of the robot arm!
That was incredibly cool!!
Hey Kan, I really appreciate you taking the time to feature my Steam Train build on your channel!
The build is entirely a fully piston-powered locomotive using a system based off the Walschaerts valve gear design as you mentioned. I've set it up so that the 1 key serves as the trigger to activate the pistons. Inside each cylinder, there's a sensor which detects the "valve stem," which in turn initiates the piston's movement.
I had also integrated low-powered thrusters glitch welded into the boiler. These thrusters are used to replicate the "chuffing effect" to capture that authentic steam train experience.
Apart from that and the boosting thrusters, it's entirely works off of the pistons.
Anways, thanks again for giving my creation the spotlight!
You should find someone to do a survival run with you where you guys never use actual engines, just make your own
Done and fun. The problem is that survival is set to a lower default physics. That means alot of the cool engines like V dont work too well 🥲
Kan, 9 times out of 10 the description of the creation will tell you which button/switch will do ,so if you went to the description of the steam locomotive it would tell you about the locomotive.
PUSH BUTTONS AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS
I love that your getting into the piston stuff again I scrap mechanic. Very interesting, keep ul the great work :)
The "sus movement" differential is actually a real mechanism named Almond noiseless coupling right angle drive. There are a few videos on here of it in motion it is a cool mechanism. Some fun builds in here
Yep
And unlike a normal differential, the output is only rotated 90 degrees, rather than 90 degrees and turning in the opposite direction. They were built to be mounted on the ceiling.
The intention of the vehicle was to show the 2 awsome coupling mechanisms. Fun that it got recognized 😁
@@Avetho I suppose i used it the wrong way 🙃
@@sm-autoshop Its fine, its Scrap Mechanic, and besides the one I saw in a museum was running upside down without its oil pan because it was being showcased just like you were doing here, so its fitting XD
You should try lubing the bearings and pistons
Oh god, Imagine if scrap mechanic had a lubrication system, that would complicate so many things.
Try and put the explosive engine on the dyno
The one thing I find interesting with the last vehicle, the muscle car, is that bespite the fact the body is completely rigid (Because Scrap Mechanic), you can actually see the left side lift more than the right side, like on high-torque vehicles irl.
The one thing which would revolutionize flying vehicles would be having items with negative weight, so they can float. Even if we have to craft them.
I'm loving the piston engine renaissance going on rn
"That's Vodoo" :D Great creations!
It would be great to have a bigger container for fuel in survival or being able to push gas from crates to gas containers
I'd love to see stuff similar to that spider, with an off button. A drivable version would be even better
Try building a plane with a “piston-powered” piston engine
OR helicopter
But KAN style!
Ooh a piston helicopter would be really cool
@@turnerdeedo4633 I think he ever built something like that or he looked at something like that already it was a old video though
The way the clutch works is a bearing that's glitched into another bearing. Icebound Glaceon has a pretty recent video covering how to make it, and how it works.
I know a trick for you when it comes to glitch welded pistons. You can easily use the vanilla glitch welding technique to do it with a lift but you use an elbow pipe with the bolt part to give the piston a side mount point that's in line with the piston.
Not related but you have a kan gaming emoji in your name?
@@dalainawillis507 it's because I'm a subscriber and send Kan money's. It's that easy if you wanted one too.
Attaching a block the the large side of the piston then carefully hovering around until the block disappears into the piston.. Works in vanilla.!
(Ignore this bit if you've heard enough) > This enables attachment of anything to any side of the piston which now has the connectivity of a block.
I remember the times you were big in hover things ... you obliterated the guys in Multiplayer monday with your hovercrafts later ... having one just shy of flying and a thruster on a sensor with suspension for adjusting
These builds are insane. I can't even play TrailMakers without visible lag on my current PC, so I'm not even going to buy Scrap Mechanic until I can get a new computer.
simple understanding on how a piston engine works is you need to learn how valve timing works on pushrod engines. and then apply the knowledge on how a hall effect sensor works. that’s how i learned how to build good ones
oh boy I defo watched this whole video even though it released one minute ago :D
I can’t wait to see you conquer piston engines I’m just waiting to see u break out the dyno on a engine with “OVER 9000” torque ❤
FURST VIEW 17 SECS btw kan those trains are actuly ment for liw phisics seettings bc of how laggy rhey are. Mist of the time the discription will tell whitch one to use. Oh and 6 on the train is the smoke effects when stopped by jamming a piston. Jotrain likes to do that
Idea: an army of horribly beweaponed kinematic spider follow you and your friends around the map. They fire constantly. Maybe you need 1000 of them
yeah the only thing close to "fire" would be the computer trying to run all that lmao
15:00 kAN, go get the cup 😂.
we need more piston engine cars!! maybe even based of real life!!
Kid: “I love to make Ice cream.”
*Kid named Kid:😢
You should do some torque tests on the explosive engine too.
Hey kAN a idea for future videos and possibly a sires of sort. So build a basic car that is easy to modify and change engines in and then do some sort of tractor pull series with different piston engines and different weights. Sounds cool, but it's just something I would enjoy.
20 thrusters also equals 2000 component kits for survival lol
7:29 k: I hope that wasn't important *as he lobotomizes the poor spider*
Still highly recommend you check out Kein Anderer's stuff on the workshop. Great collection of piston engines with pseudo-gear systems. They have a great example of how it works in a built car called "Piston Car MK13.2 AWD"
Variable speed piston engines using a controller to rotate the "encoder plate" for different "gears" (including reverse ofc). Hope you check it out cause I think it'd be a fun thing for you to experiment with!
You just need to take that extra muscular muscle car apart and put its massive engine through the torque test
i've seen piston engines work with timers even under load
they seem to work quite well for smaller vehicles?
Please do a drift themed olympics or something :))
I liked the part where you lobotomized the spider and it couldn't walk anymore
You should go back to your co op survival world and complete all of your projects that you wanted to do
These are definitely cool
Maybe a Fast & Furious themed best builds video?
What I'm trying to figure out currently is how in vanilla can we have a logic signal based on if a creation is moving or not. Like, if a car is falling out of the sky, driving, any form of moment as apposed to standing still.
I'm trying to figure this out cause I want sensor doors that open when you get close to them. . . but only activate when the car is standing still.
I can think of two ways to do this both of them are bad one of them is better I think I haven’t done anything like this but theoretically you could do a logic circuit with an engine and a sensor and make a circuit where it needs to be going a certain speed in the sensor needs to be going on and off at a certain interval or you can probably try to sense the player because he moves in the seat a lot but that wouldn’t be consistent the logic would probably be a bit easier to keep it consistent if you tune it correctly
@@dalainawillis507 Allow me to re-explain to goal.
- No one is in the car.
- The car is moving. Not from driving, but from not being stationary.
That includes:
- Rolling down a hill
- Falling out of the sky
- The Driver gets out mid-drive
The idea is the car doors can only be opened when the car is not moving and no one is inside. (Well, technically, the car doors have a separate way open to enter than to exit, to enter, it's via sensor, to exit, it's via switch hooked up to driver seat). I know this can be easily done with mods, but I want to figure out a vanilla way to have a car door open automatically when approached, but only when the car is fully parked. The issues comes in that any sensor that the player can set off, any terrain piece or structure can set off too. I don't want the door to randomly open. There are plenty of ways to prevent that when you have a passenger. It's when you don't have a passenger that makes it troubling.
You should do pro vs. Noob with piston engines. Then hook them up to the Dino machine and compare values
@16:35 - "I am become train" ~Openhopper
i was thinking when i seen the gover car why not make a gear powered hover car i dont know how it work out but i figure smash two things Kan might like in to one thing and he might like to explore it for a vid becase it just sounds cool id think they like it every one wins id think
I tried timing piston engines with timers and it doesn’t work very well when you get a little load just keeps going back-and-forth because the Pistons aren’t going at the right time
I found a new suspension glitch awhile back without glitch welding
Hey kan, i just put up the piston engine from the shopping cart to the dyno, and it got about 26.600 torgue WITHOUT a gear ratio.. That engine cant be stopped...
Hi, we appreciate that you liked our engine. The Shaw engine is quite amazing. We have a larger, stronger but slower version on the workshop called the "Gigashaw B8". It has around 60 k torque and runs between 20-30 rpm 💪
For some reason, that "spooky spider" look like that baby head spider from Toy story 1. Idk thats what it look like to me.
The "sus" piston engine's diff is kind of... suggestive
I think I get it
omg plz more piston stuuff
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You should dyno all the engines
It would be cool to see if you could make a piston engine to see what the highest amount of torque you could get then try some sort of sled pulling and see if it's usable.
Edit: forgot to say this but use the dyno obviously to so itll be easier plus i wanna see what kind of numbers you could get with a piston engine.
We posted an engine like that on the best build challenge. Unfortunately it was not featured in the video. But it has around 60 k tourqe and 30 rpm. Its called Gigashaw B8 and you can find it on the workshop.
@@sm-autoshop if I had a PC and the game I'd check it out 🥲
awesome!
25:10
sounds like a flywheel of sorts?
Its a clutch that uses the tourqe of 2 powered bearings to engage and disengage the 2 shafts. Or in this case, its 8 bearings.
Piston engine lamda mechanism walker?
The “old school hopper car”, is called a gondola car.
7:00 & 7:33: Mr. Incredible moment
3 length max speed for regular engines is the way to go
with sensor timing systems if you advance or retard the timing to change speed, I managed to get an engine that goes 70 kmph with the most advanced timing it allowed. it's got 6 pistons.
Kan, How about you make a piston engine in whitch pistons are mounted to the crakshaft with two sets of two curved pipes on each side of the piston. Like crankschaft, bearing, curved pipe up, curved pipe to the right, bearing, curved pipe up, curved pipe right, unpowered bearing and the other side of the piston is the same story but backwards. If you set the angles at whitch first two bearings are (first 90 second -90) you can change how far the piston needs to move for the engine to complete one revolution from 2 blocks away from the crankschaft to concentric with the schaft.
I would say that assuming that the linear speed of the piston is constant, a shorter travel distance of the piston would allow it to complete a revolution is less time making the engine faster. Though I watched your video with a dino and you might put an adjustable encoder on that engine too because I saw a video on the internet of such an engine and it makes me think that lag will be involved and screwing with the engine timing.
U are cool😊
btw thats how real steam locos change gearing to
"They dont have to be that powerful they are only spinning props"
Me who works on a 4700 horsepower explody tube connected to a really big constant speed ceiling fan: ( ͡ʘ ͜ʖ ͡ʘ)
And a 8x8 piston semi
You dont need such high physics for trains
24:34 imagine trying ti do car repairs 🗿🗿🗿
Kan you are the best
10:30 found the sus part of the car in the trunk
Kan you should play derail valley
I found a good way to make piston engines smaller
What happened to that mini naval series?
Kan when is the next vid whit hyce comming out?
Can u try to make a piston engine powerd big american truck?
and common since would tell you that if it's still laggy on physics 8 then go to physics 7
Would a piston engine with 8 pistons 45 degrees offset from eachother work well? Any piston engine pro can answer.
It would. It would have more points where a piston is in an ideal position, giving smother torque. However, in general, you want to have as few bearings as possible on the crankshaft for lag and torque.
I wanna see the extra muscular muscle car on the dyno ☠️
The engine was testet on the dyno before we used it. We originally built it for tractors and trucks as it has around 25 k tourqe💪
More factorio?
when will all these be in survival thats when i turn the game on agean
The diff on the blue car is what makes it sus 😅😅🤣
And great!
where can i get a copy of that world?
One of the plane's pistons wasn't painted black and now I can't unsee it
maybe look at the discription of the creation first. because the first train actually says to but it to level 7 physics.
Same thing with mine. It says to put it to physics 1 but kan ignored the description. Sigh...
Funny thing is, he would of gotten the answer to his gearbox and coupling questions to If he only read the description on the 2 creations.
I made an ai helicopter thingy that uses PID controllers, but it took so long to make that it ended being put on the discord right after the video posted, :(
Hey kAN! I was just wondering if it would be okay if i used your old intro song since you don’t use it anymone.
I'm still waiting for your new piston engine video
Are we not getting more of that Roblox train game?
Check out "Bingo's block and part editor" mod. Adds a tool that allows you to do blueprint editing without exiting the game. I learned about this tool a week ago and it makes building stuff so much easier.
Some cool tricks you can do:
- move parts and bodies
- overlap anything
- rotate pistons in any orientation (requires it's attachment to overlap it)
- create 0 width blocks (just make sure you put some kind of weight on them, they are quite glitchy and easy to loose track of (for the lather there is "unknowns tools" which makes them visible and adds other fun tools))
The shopping cart uses inline bearings on any power source that cancel out their torque. When they are powered they cancel torque creating a free spinning bearing. When off they create high resistance. Works for gas, electric and controllers. With controllers you can even make angle limited free bearings.
Where piston challenge? Started first level and did not finish.
Probably researching piston engines more before trying again I'd imagine
@@nalujukthats it
@@nalujuk
he actually said the exact same a few days ago
after failing, he's been looking at different piston engine designs
discovered the trammel gear and explored it, got a dyno for torque readout
he's mad at that challenge and is gonna destroy it when he's ready
all it requires is a bit of patience on your part
Is ur gramma ok?
I have a 8x8 piston powered truck
Put the musclecar on the dino
The engine have been tested before use😁It has around 25k torque.
8:30 That isn't actually that hard, but the way SM has to make programmable stuff makes it painful
Bread
11:54 do you honestly not see just how sus this is
Anyone else who wasn't realized that kAN uses F for 3?
🤔🤔🤔
Can you make a new co-op video.
The two reasons I haven't played Scrap Mechanic yet. 1. Single player is still alpha state and grindy. 2. Lagging out the physics and rendering is too easy.
trick: get in a vc with someone good, you build and they will guild you. -sm technical community