I forgot about a certain video, you can use a unidirectional diode to reduce the 3.7v-4v lithium battery back to 3V. & Used with lithium battery charging board
@DistinctlyAverageRepairs Another great video, and thanks for sharing it with us. On this one, however, I (personally) would have focused on the sound board a little bit more. The sound board is not right, we still own one of these old retro games, it should not sound like that. May we politely suggest that you check this boards capacitors, transistors and inspect for any corrosion(?) You're doing well fella, keep up the good work. Warmest Regards 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🫡🫡🫡🫡🫡🫡😊😊😊😊😊😊
Many thanks👍 Yes, as I said in the video description, the sound does need a bit more ‘fettling’ to get it right. My focus in this video was upgrading the power supply but I will have another look at the sound when I get 5 minutes. Not sure it will make another video though but I’ll get it sorted 💯
Thank you. It could definitely go inside the battery compartment - I only opted to stick it on the outside so that I didn’t need to make any permanent changes to the game case. If you wanted, you could cut a neat little hole for the USB slot and it would be hidden away perfectly.👍
@@DistinctlyAverageRepairs Good point. could be a bit of a shame to cut the plastic. Gotta think it through before committing to destructive actions :)
The PD trigger board seems like overkill for this application since 5V is the USB default voltage anyway. And maybe a bit of lubrication and/or a replacement motor could bring the noise down a bit.
You are correct, I could have done this without the trigger board however, I thought it would be a nice demonstration of what a trigger board/USB-C PD can do. As regards lubrication - there are a lot of moving parts/gears etc and honestly, I’m reluctant to risk gunking it all up! 😂 It’s the mechanism that’s making most of the noise rather than the motor - note at the beginning of the video when the motor is just spinning without engaging, it’s much quieter. I reduced the audio level at the end significantly but didn’t adjust the audio at the start. Thanks for watching.👍
Great video with cool USB mod!! Where did you find the step down transformer ?? Which model is it ?I need to do this to mine !! Cheers, keep up the good work !!😀
No problem - good luck with the project! One tip: I had to turn the little adjustment screw on the potentiometer quite a few times before it started to change the output voltage. I initially thought it was broken. I can’t remember which way I had to turn it but if it doesn’t seem to be working, it might just need more turns.🤞
Doesn't the trigger board touch the table with this setup, making it tilt on one side? Could try putting silicone grease on the gears. migh help with the noise.
No, there are two little removable legs at the back which lift the game up so the board is clear - they are probably not visible in the video because I had removed them to work on it. Yes, I considered putting some grease or similar on the gears but I’m just a bit reluctant to risk gunking everything up! All of these games are noisy - it’s how they were made - we were more accepting of things back in the 70s/80s because it was all like magic to us! 😂 Thanks for watching👍
Might look into this for my Modern clone, the running side seems to be the same but the scoring sides swapped for a Digital display with more lights added aswell, it runs on AAs but I think the equivlent voltage is about the same (Id imagine a more modern efficent motors used but it's still loud in use so would need to open to verify).
Yes, I did consider this but it would have meant removing the battery cover to connect/reconnect the cable. Alternatively, the board could have been positioned just inside that hole on the battery cover with the USB port facing outwards. Several good options - my main aim was to see if it actually worked! 😂 Thanks for watching 👍
😂 Good spot! It was still missing at the end of the video because I didn’t have a suitable replacement to hand. I’m pleased to say that it has now been replaced 👍
I honestly don’t think you could do anything that would make much difference. Some have suggested lubricating the mechanism. Whilst this might make a small improvement, I’m reluctant to risk gunking everything up. They all make this racket - I’ve got two of them and they are both the same, it’s just how they were made. Back in the 80s, this was an amazing toy and we didn’t care about the decibels so they could get away with it!😂
I originally considered using a normal LiPo battery but decided to use USB-C PD because now the game can also run from a rechargeable power bank which will sit in the battery compartment and can be removed to use with other devices. USB-C Power Delivery just gives more options/flexibility. Plus, I don’t trust the cheap LiPos you get from eBay/AliExpress etc, I expect them to burst into flames at any given moment for no reason whatsoever! 😂
@@DistinctlyAverageRepairs that's a genius idea tbh, so it's easy to run from a socket or power bank. I might attempt this myself with the Tomy astro shooter pinball. I recently brought one simply for nostalgic reasons as I had one when I was a kid.
@fredfredburger5521 It’s such an easy upgrade and costs less than a new set of batteries. I imagine a decent power bank would last for waaaay longer than 4 D Cells too. 👍
@thetoastmonster Mmm, well the motor circuit was about 400Ma from memory (but I could be remembering incorrectly!) - needed more on start up to spin the motor up but then settled down. The sound/light is on a different circuit so that’s not directly relevant and I didn’t test this but would expect it to be a lot less…
Has anyone else used USB-C Power Delivery to upgrade old toys or tech? Let me know what you’ve done! 👍
I forgot about a certain video, you can use a unidirectional diode to reduce the 3.7v-4v lithium battery back to 3V. & Used with lithium battery charging board
Hey, you did the USB-C mod! Super cool!
I did! It had to be done! 👍
Excellent video, you have another subscriber!
Thank you so much - welcome aboard! 👍
@DistinctlyAverageRepairs
Another great video, and thanks for sharing it with us. On this one, however, I (personally) would have focused on the sound board a little bit more.
The sound board is not right, we still own one of these old retro games, it should not sound like that.
May we politely suggest that you check this boards capacitors, transistors and inspect for any corrosion(?)
You're doing well fella, keep up the good work.
Warmest Regards
👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🫡🫡🫡🫡🫡🫡😊😊😊😊😊😊
Many thanks👍 Yes, as I said in the video description, the sound does need a bit more ‘fettling’ to get it right. My focus in this video was upgrading the power supply but I will have another look at the sound when I get 5 minutes. Not sure it will make another video though but I’ll get it sorted 💯
Cool Upgrade. Would have been nice of the purple PCP was on the inside though. Well done!
Thank you. It could definitely go inside the battery compartment - I only opted to stick it on the outside so that I didn’t need to make any permanent changes to the game case. If you wanted, you could cut a neat little hole for the USB slot and it would be hidden away perfectly.👍
@@DistinctlyAverageRepairs Good point. could be a bit of a shame to cut the plastic. Gotta think it through before committing to destructive actions :)
@mkFix-pl Absolutely right 👍
The PD trigger board seems like overkill for this application since 5V is the USB default voltage anyway. And maybe a bit of lubrication and/or a replacement motor could bring the noise down a bit.
You are correct, I could have done this without the trigger board however, I thought it would be a nice demonstration of what a trigger board/USB-C PD can do. As regards lubrication - there are a lot of moving parts/gears etc and honestly, I’m reluctant to risk gunking it all up! 😂 It’s the mechanism that’s making most of the noise rather than the motor - note at the beginning of the video when the motor is just spinning without engaging, it’s much quieter. I reduced the audio level at the end significantly but didn’t adjust the audio at the start. Thanks for watching.👍
Great video with cool USB mod!! Where did you find the step down transformer ?? Which model is it ?I need to do this to mine !! Cheers, keep up the good work !!😀
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it. I found the board on eBay - if you search for XL4015 it should bring it up. 👍
@@DistinctlyAverageRepairs Thanks again, have ordered parts - can't wait to get started on the conversion! 😃
No problem - good luck with the project! One tip: I had to turn the little adjustment screw on the potentiometer quite a few times before it started to change the output voltage. I initially thought it was broken. I can’t remember which way I had to turn it but if it doesn’t seem to be working, it might just need more turns.🤞
I used to have a pinball machine exactly the same as that a long time ago.
Great job buddy 🇻🇪👍🏻🤗🕹️🎮
Thank you - glad you enjoyed it 👍😀
Doesn't the trigger board touch the table with this setup, making it tilt on one side? Could try putting silicone grease on the gears. migh help with the noise.
No, there are two little removable legs at the back which lift the game up so the board is clear - they are probably not visible in the video because I had removed them to work on it. Yes, I considered putting some grease or similar on the gears but I’m just a bit reluctant to risk gunking everything up! All of these games are noisy - it’s how they were made - we were more accepting of things back in the 70s/80s because it was all like magic to us! 😂 Thanks for watching👍
Might look into this for my Modern clone, the running side seems to be the same but the scoring sides swapped for a Digital display with more lights added aswell, it runs on AAs but I think the equivlent voltage is about the same (Id imagine a more modern efficent motors used but it's still loud in use so would need to open to verify).
I’m sure a similar solution would work perfectly - technically you could use this method to power pretty much any battery-powered toy/game/device.
I would have checked the switch first, cleaned it with 99% alcohol and tried again. Then move on to other components if necessary.
So I think what you're saying at the end there is that the built-in soundsystem is too weak and it needs bluetooth to connect to a portable speaker.
😂 Haha, now that is a cool idea! 👍
Maybe put the trigger board inside as well and just lead the cable through the hole.
Yes, I did consider this but it would have meant removing the battery cover to connect/reconnect the cable. Alternatively, the board could have been positioned just inside that hole on the battery cover with the USB port facing outwards. Several good options - my main aim was to see if it actually worked! 😂 Thanks for watching 👍
And the screw is still missing?
😂 Good spot! It was still missing at the end of the video because I didn’t have a suitable replacement to hand. I’m pleased to say that it has now been replaced 👍
Lol, old EMs sound like a train is coming. Those old fiddly bits just make noise and it adds up.
And that’s with the volume adjusted down by about 60% to prevent the noise suddenly blasting your ears off! 😂
Can you anything to noise proof it... reduce the noisiness?
I honestly don’t think you could do anything that would make much difference. Some have suggested lubricating the mechanism. Whilst this might make a small improvement, I’m reluctant to risk gunking everything up. They all make this racket - I’ve got two of them and they are both the same, it’s just how they were made. Back in the 80s, this was an amazing toy and we didn’t care about the decibels so they could get away with it!😂
You should try adding a usb C rechargeable battery.
I originally considered using a normal LiPo battery but decided to use USB-C PD because now the game can also run from a rechargeable power bank which will sit in the battery compartment and can be removed to use with other devices. USB-C Power Delivery just gives more options/flexibility. Plus, I don’t trust the cheap LiPos you get from eBay/AliExpress etc, I expect them to burst into flames at any given moment for no reason whatsoever! 😂
@@DistinctlyAverageRepairs that's a genius idea tbh, so it's easy to run from a socket or power bank. I might attempt this myself with the Tomy astro shooter pinball. I recently brought one simply for nostalgic reasons as I had one when I was a kid.
@fredfredburger5521 It’s such an easy upgrade and costs less than a new set of batteries. I imagine a decent power bank would last for waaaay longer than 4 D Cells too. 👍
@@DistinctlyAverageRepairs How many milliamps does it draw?
@thetoastmonster Mmm, well the motor circuit was about 400Ma from memory (but I could be remembering incorrectly!) - needed more on start up to spin the motor up but then settled down. The sound/light is on a different circuit so that’s not directly relevant and I didn’t test this but would expect it to be a lot less…