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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- Which one sounds better? The 4A-GE or the 2zz? Do you prefer the sound of ITB's or Exhaust pops and burbles?
Corolla FX16 GTS or Lotus Elise?
In this video i am comparing two great engines from toyota under starlight so you can hear the differences.
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It was close. But the induction noise on the Corolla did it for me 👌
The sound of those ITB's is wicked.
i owned 2zz, but the ITB stole my heart
Yup same here. That was what sold me was that ITB sound. (:
How 2ZZ-GE was born
4A-GE Blacktop: I will give him my high revs, VVT system, high power to displacement ratio, high performance Yamaha head and the raspy sound
1ZZ-FE: I will give him my tech, reliability and family name
After 9 months:
2ZZ-GE: Lets go drivin
Lmao that's a good backstory
The good thing with the corolla is you can floor it for a longer period without going illegally fast..
lol, great point
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4A-GE with ITB is definetly the most satisfying engine sound i've ever heard. Two thumbs up for the 2ZZ but the Corolla takes the price no doubts.
4A-GE with ITB's always wins. I love how it blows out the mic. You should do another Battle with these two like you did with the Civic.
honestly not a fair comparison. if the 2zz had itb it would probably win
As ever, favorite channel on TH-cam.
4a-g sounds so much better. The power deficit doesn't matter (to me) when you sound like that!
The sound of the 4AGE is bringing back Initial D cartoons all over again.
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Awesome comparison. These two are almost apples to oranges. The 4AG sounds throaty and muscular, while this particu;ar 2ZZ sounds punchy, tight, and almost bike-engine-like. They're definitely two of the best 4 cylinder sounds, but my vote has to go to the 4AG by a tiny margin. The 4AG I can't imagine getting tired of and that sound would always be addictive; the 2ZZ on the other hand I can imagine getting tired of...
2zz with a trumpet on is like magic when the lift comes in....
I have a 2ZZ in my Matrix XRS. I truly believe it's the next best thing to a 4AGE.
The Matrix XRS must be a really awesome car. People that have them love them too much to get rid of them so there are never any for sale!
sushpants it is really good. Toyota didn't advertise them very well so they didn't sell many of them with that option. Mine has 217k miles but still drives like it's new and doesn't use any oil at all.
I am on my 2nd matrix xrs! I love the looks I get when hitting lift under a tunnel, and there's no sport bike to be found, just the "granny matrix".
the 2ZZ is the perfect successor to the 16v 4A-GE. T-VIS-to VVTL-i. blacktop ITB treatment on the 2ZZ would be perfect. that's the ultimate goal for my 2ZZ AW11.
I daily drove an AE82 twin cam for 7 years, and now daily a ZZE123 Corolla Sportivo, and I honestly can't think of anything beyond perhaps reliability that the 4AGE had over the 2ZZGE. The ZZE123 is at least twice as quick, despite weighing 300 odd kgs more than the AE82, the 2ZZ pumps out a lot more power, while using the same amount of fuel, if not less, than the 4AGE, the 2ZZ sounds a lot better stock for stock, but only at 6200rpm and over, below that the 4A sounds slightly better.
The only downside I can see to the 2ZZ is it could prove less reliable because of the MMC cylinder liners and all alloy construction. The 4AGE I ran for 7 years had half a million kms on it when I got rid of it, and it still ran pretty well, despite me thrashing the shit out of it for years essentially not caring if I killed it. Pushed it so hard on my last proper mountain road drive in that car that the front brakes caught fire lol. I can't see the ZZE123 I daily atm coming anything close to putting up with that kind of abuse.
I'm maybe biased, because of Initial D and owning a 20-valve GTI, but the 4AGE sounds AWESOME. The best of the for a 4-banger.
Really cool comparison. I have trouble choosing between these two engines as they share alot of the iconic Yamaha cylinder head sound. Intake sounds better on 4age(seems to have ITBs so it would), exhaust sounds a hair better on 2zz imo.
Man, they both sound so good! Quite similar too, but I'm a bit into the ITB sound on the 4age so I guess I'd go with that. Lotus sounds more like a sportbike, which is cool too!
Thanks Sushpants!
4age blacktop. i have a silvertop in my aw11.
Does that sound a lot different than front mounted?
They both sound beautiful. But it really depends if you want a smoothish race car sound, or a aggressive 4 banger attacking the touge.
4A-GE, and im a 2ZZ-GE owner haha. Those ITB's are unreal.
The distinctive sound of a high revving 4age, power wise 2zzge won. But i always had one sided love with 4age.
It will not be long, 2zzge with ITBs.
Great stuff, love these sound battles.
Corolla is my preference sound wise.
The lotuses always sound better from outside the car in my experience, more like a sport bike if you run a test pipe.
Imo the cam change over and transmission ratios are poorly matched stock. It forces you to drive a smooth car in an overly aggressive fashion to extract speed.
Loved that old supercharged miata whine too.
andre surles the supercharged Miata had such a cool sound, but a buddy crashed it :/
sushpants thanks buddy ;)
I love the induction noise of the 4AG❤
Dude you are a true car youtuber! Such great quality content!
I cant decide they both sounds really awesome omfg, 2zz redline banging and 4age itb suction noise 😋😋 4age more of a fun car sound and 2zz racecar sound, I love both
4A-GE sounds more raw and angry
Really Enjoying the videos ! Very Good Sound and Content Quality ! Keep it up
The induction symphony on the 4age is timeless, wonderful work by the yamaha ppl
4A-GE was best!
Stephen Mikell15 still is.
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oh gosh if my ae86 it's gonna sound like that then i can wait to take it for a ride!!
What a flex not using a corolla or even a celica, they said let me bring out the Elise
4age gets my vote, has that heavier grunt, it's like playing an electrical guitar
Definitely the 4age,not only because I own an 88 FX16 but...oh wait yes it is lol...in all seriousness they both sound great though.
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I can’t help but to love the way the itbs sound on the 20v. My dream swap for my ae86
Both amazing but the 20v takes the cake for sound
it is close. I didn't know the 2zz sounded close to this level of awesome to be honest. But I think the 4age ITB's takes it over the top
I like the 4a-ge even though I have a Toyota matrix with a 2zz. The 4a-ge has more beef to it 👌🏼
I have a black top in my car as well and it put a smile on my face every time 4AGE
4ag is just one of the best sounding engines ever for some reason or another... love the zz series too. I'm thinking of finding a beat up elise and throwing a stout 16v build 4a in it now... maybe do the 7a
Sweet Blacktop music, Yamaha sure knows how to make these instruments sound good lol.
love both of these engines except in the AW11 and ZZW30
Most definitely the 4age, the induction note is so intense
both are insane but i love the trumpets
The redline in the lotus sounded really good
The 4-age is really nice sounding and better if you're just comparing sound. But I'd rather drive a 2zzge
For all out power, the 2zz is the way to go. The 2zz is more of an evolution like the k20 became after the b18, but, the 2zz just doesn't have a great sounding induction noise which is why it's more often covered with a loud exhaust.
I was definitely hoping for the 2zz but those induction noises are too good, 4age ftw.
id take that lil fx16 anytime
love the series
cant wait for the cams
when that 4age rev... my head automatic played the initial D music...
Hard to choose. Any high rev twin cam 4 sounds legit
To me, the preference doesn't really matter. I have a Toyota Celica GT and my original 1zz sounds like the 4A-GE and the custom motor I'm putting in my Celica IS the lotus Elise 2zz full swap in all. I think both of them have their distinct unique sounds that I like.
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Dont forget that Pontiac Vibe also are equip with the 2zz engine.
Cool lighting for a night time shoot. It kinda looks like you need a lot of space and lights lol but good video
Your username is one of my favorite phrases! It did take a lot space and about 12 lights :D
Toyota since I was a kid I remember the sound
2zz exhaust sounds better but the induction noise from the 4A-GE is unreal.
The best sound battle in centuries... I choose the 2ZZ even though I love both
I cant wait until those 2zz lotus' drop down to like $5-15k. Such a gorgeous car. I'd daily the shit out of one
Those roads look incredible to drive 😍
Disregarding the fact that the 2ZZ goes like the bomb, and just thinking pure sound...
The 2ZZ just buzzes, not saying it sucks as an engine or anything, but its just too new, too perfected, to have an actual unique sound.
Whereas the 4AGE has all the 70-80`s tech, designed with traditional methods, and a bit of 90`s stuff like ITB`s, ODB and it still retains traditional distributor (albeit electronic) instead of COP`s etc, and as a result it just sounds better.
I think even 2ZZ with ITB`s doesnt sound as good as any 4A-GE.
My eyes say Lotus, but if I close em the 4AGE wins.
I love the lift crossover that happens with a 2zz-ge but the sound of a 4a-ge is a raw and just straight mean!!! 4ag wins!!!!
The 4a-ge is in lift all the time!
sushpants exactly!!!!!!
Both, it's a different feeling because one remembers the past and the other the present...
I personally like the 2zz. 8 thousand rpms is pure music, granted the 4age revs high as hell, but it can't touch 8k
Lotus 2ZZ has a different ecu revs to 8500rpm compared with the 2zz in celica and corolla.
What kind of brake pads are you running? I seriously recommend you aren't already, run brake pads designed to not overheat past 1000 degrees Fahrenheit. My personal recommendation for a daily driver touge brake pad is the Endless MX72. For my vehicle, because it's a slightly-overweight crossover, I run the Endless MX72PLUS as an extra precaution against severe fade for long downhill runs. If you're not looking to spend an absurd amount, G-Loc, Carbotech, and Project Mu's Thailand-made brake pads are good options too.
both sounds hella fire, i was planning on swapping my corolla 2001, should i go for 4age or 2zz?
I think the 01 corolla had a 1zz. Therefore, i would definitely go for a 2zz. Easier swap and more power.
@@sushpants alright thanks my dude! and last question, i founs one for 1300 but how much u think the swap will cost?
4a's limiter is always golden.
Amazing content! And of course Corolla for the win, 4age sounds better.
4AG-GE hands down. Now, give me a 2ZZ-GE with ITB's and 20 valves and we can talk.
The 4AGE for sho'. The intake noise in a front engine car. Mid-engined cars don't always get the sound out. The Corolla also is more useful for IKEA trips :-D
The itbs are pointed directly at the driver in the Corolla :) The corolla has been tremendously practical, rear seats fold down to fit lots of stuff.
I LOVE YOUR COROLLA !
They both sound great but the 4AGE sounds better in my opinion.
4AGE 20v throttles sounds a lot more fun for me
Who cares about the power deficit when you have that awesome induction noise
I prefer the smoother sound of the 2ZZ-GE personally.
2zz with ITB's FTW! This time 4age win the battle.
4 Age ! - an I like watching the vids ,keep it comin .
Why not both? I'm currently building my 2zz with ITBs and e85. Will smell and sound amazing.
we have the same engine sushpants same as my AE85
Exhaust note of 2zz hands down wins.
4AGE....so lovely sound
I have my celica gt-s with the 2zz, I would love to mod it up to par with the lotus if I had the room in the bay 😂
The A4 is a classic, but the 2ZZ is beefier and a bit more angry. lol
Both are excellent engines, but the 2ZZ would be my choice.
Can you please give me a quick rundown on which engine is superior in terms of sound power and fuel efficiency.
2zz is superior both in fuel efficiency and power. It's bigger and has more advanced timing/lift control. In terms of sound, the 4AGE sounds much more raw and has a proper scream.
Fucking amazing!!! I can't chose 1 😂😂😂😂
I'm still trying to figure out how to cut into my 2001 Corolla fir wall to fit a 2jz
I've owned both, and the 2ZZ is better in every single way, including sound. The 4A has a grunty induction noise, but the 2ZZ blows it away as soon as it hits lift. From the video, it sounded like you were short shifting the 2ZZ in the driving and launch comparisons. Didn't hear it hit lift at all.
The Corolla..but they could both sound a little better. Sounds like room for growth in the sound department. The Corolla is a lot closer to that threshold, I think..
imagine comparing the sound of the 2zzge to the sound of the 4age, the 4age sounds WAY better indeed i would dare to say its the best sounding 4cyl
2zzge the only ever engine Toyota that had lift intelligence
#4age 20v
please do more video i have a 20v too
4age wins it, just. both are good, but the 4a has more of a range, more of that lovely twin-cam rasp, it's both deeper and more raw sounding. It alos sounded like it was louder to me.Tthe 2zz sounds good, but it sounds like it's got a turbo muffling the intake and exhaust, and kida sounds too high-tech. Both great, but 4A all day when it comes to that sound...
What exhaust is on the 2zz? I have a celica I’m wanting to sound like that
I like the sharp pickup from the 2zz but those itbs from the 4age are audio porn.
4age ITBs FTW!
4A-GE for me. :)
I Have the 2ZZ myself but I think the 4AGE screams Better !
isnt the 2zz found in the gts celica? correct me if im wrong
Yes it is. The 2zz was also in the Matrix XRS, Pontiac Vibe GT and Corolla XRS. But the 2zz was slightly modified for Lotus from what i hear.
Definitely the 4A-GE!
4age twincam vote🏁
nice, like it man!!!!
Doesnt the 4a-ge have a rev capability of 11k?
lotus this toss change the exhaust on the corolla to maybe a long tip apexi