Can Eastern Iranics Understand Each Other?
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- Can Eastern Iranic language speakers understand each other? In this episode we showcase some of the similarities and test the degree of mutual intelligibility between three of the many Eastern Iranian (Iranic) languages; Shughni, Pashto, and Wakhi. Shughni and Wakhi belong to the Pamir language group, while Pashto, which has the highest number of native speakers out of all the living Eastern Iranian languages, is believed, by some linguists, to have descended from Avestan or a variety very similar to it and shares characteristics with Eastern Middle Iranian languages such as Bactrian, Khwarezmian and Sogdian.
Ozar (Shughni speaker), Hashima (Pashto speaker), and Kamram (Wakhi speaker) will each read sentences and paragraphs in their respective languages to see how well they can understand one another.
I would like to thanks my friend Ebrahim Riaz for his assistance in putting this video together!
For those who might be interested, I was recently invited by Roqe Media to appear in one of their shows. We had a wonderful interview focusing on this channel, including previous videos and potential future ones! Check out the full video here if you get the chance: • Roqe - Ep #97 - Bahado...
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The Eastern Iranian (Iranic) languages are believed to have separated from the Western Iranian (Iranic) languages in the 2nd millennium BCE. They consist of many different languages, with Pashto being the largest of the living ones. Most living Eastern Iranian languages are native to southern and eastern Afghanistan, western Pakistan, Gorno-Badakhshan Autonomous Province of eastern Tajikistan, and the far west of Xinjiang region of China, in addition to the Yaghnobi language of northwestern Tajikistan, which comes from the extinct Sogdian languages, and the Ossetian (Ossetic) language spoken in the Caucasus.
Shughni or Khughni (xuǧnůne ziv) and Wakhi (x̌ik zik) are both Pamir languages. Shughni is primarily spoken in the Gorno-Badakhshan Autonomous Region in Tajikistan and Badakhshan Province in Afghanistan, while Wakhi is spoken in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Tajikistan, and China. In Afghanistan, the language is native to the the Wakhan District of the Badakhshan Province. In addition to that it's spoken in the Gilgit-Baltistan region administered by Pakistan in the northernmost valleys of Hunza, Gojal, Ishkoman, Yasin, Gupis and Yarkhun, whith the Hunza valley having the largest Wakhi population in Pakistan. In China, Wakhi is native to the Taxkorgan Tajik Autonomous County, in Xinjiang.
The Pashto language is primarily spoken in Afghanistan and Pakistan, being one of the two official languages of Afghanistan. The language has several dialects, but mainly divided into two major varieties of Northern and Southern, with Northern Pashto being spoken in eastern and northeastern Afghanistan (including Kabul), and in the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province of Pakistan, including Peshawar where, along with Hindko, are the primary native languages. Southern Pashto is spoken in southern and western Afghanistan (including Kandahar), southern Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and northern Balochistan (including Quetta). A major part of Pashtun culture consists of literature and poetry. Some of the best known writers and poets of the Pashto language include Amir Kror Suri (امير کروړ سوري), also known as Jahan Pahlawan; Pir Roshan (بايزيد پير روښان), also known as Bāyazīd Pīr Rōshān; Khushal Khattak (خوشال خان خټک), also known as Khushal Baba; Rahman Baba (رحمان بابا), Khan Abdul Ghani Khan (خان عبدالغنی خان), Afzal Khan (افضل خان), Ajmal Khattak (اجمل خټک), Khan Roshan Khan (خان روشن خان), Ameer Hamza (امیرحمزه), commonly known as Hamza Baba (حمزه بابا); Kabir Stori (کبیر ستوری), and numerous others.
Other Eastern Iranian (Iranic) languages include Scythian languages and Old Saka, which, along with Avestan, are classified as Old Iranian languages; Middle Iranian languages such as Bactrian, Khwarezmian, and Sogdian.
It is interesting to note, that despite its geographical location, the Ossetian language is also classified as an Eastern Iranian language. The Ossetians are the descendants of the Alans, an ancient Iranian nomadic pastoral people. Many of the Alans migrated westwards along with various Germanic tribes and eventually assimilated into different European nations, but a small number of those who remained and survived the Mongol invasions are said to be the modern Ossetians. The Alans spoke an Eastern Iranian language which in turn evolved into the modern Ossetian language that shares a lot of similarities with other Iranian languages. - บันเทิง
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Hope you enjoy this week's episode as we feature two languages that we have never had on this channel before!
For those who might be interested, I was recently invited by Roqe Media to appear in one of their shows. We had a wonderful interview focusing on this channel, including previous videos and potential future ones! Check out the full video here if you get the chance: th-cam.com/video/POHWd1S-ZW0/w-d-xo.html
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Uhm what a mind blowing thanks. Isn't Wakhi one of the Turkic languages?
It seems as if the Wakhi don’t have a flag of their own...
@@abdurrahmanal-ows9251 No, Wakhi is Iranian.
Sir when we will see Bangla again
Bahador! the Pashto of Pashtun girl is too Weak as a Pashtun of Peshawar She is really annoying me
She made major mistakes in this video and also her Pronounciation is too weak
Khusht/ is also in Pashto for wet.
I know Pashto from Helmand to Peshawar She have made sentences different then required
If you put an Ossetian and a Yaghnobi speaker too this video would've been perfect.
But still, this is an awesome video!
Yaghnobi would be so difficult to find but would be very interesting to hear.
only some hundred speak it fluenty, it's very very hard to find one
@Trolling Sahak I think it would be near impossible to have a Yaghnobi speaker
@@radiant6573 Not impossible as long as they are not extinct.
As an Ossetian I got everything the Pamiri man said. It was hard but understandable.
Love to my Pamiri brothers and sisters from a native Tajik. Please preserve your beautiful languages 🇦🇫🇹🇯
@ALPER TÜRKMEN what drugs are you on
@ALPER TÜRKMEN
Stop drinking or smoking, you are loosing your mind
@@IranAzadLoading that nice ottoman kush. Sent him higher up than a dutch astronaut
@@zarakdurrani7584 I prefer that OG Afghan Kush ngl
Two of them are literally from Pakistan. Put Pakistani flag in there 🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰
I really liked this because they were so knowledgeable and the video was very informative, not only linguistically but about history as well, I learned so many new things.
FINALLY!!! YES!!!! The video i been waiting for!
Thanks
Big love to our dear Shughni speakers from Tajik boy❤️❤️❤️❤️
Wow, Bahador, one of the best comparisons! Thanks for producing this.
Thanks for the new episode! Great to see coverage on this unique set of languages :)
Excellent, each time it gets better and better. The way you convey lots of information while playing with the translations is wonderful.
Keep doing and improving this amazing job Bahador jaan. Many thanks.
What a deep linguistic comparison. Very interesting for a philologist (like me), and it certainly unites people. :)
I think this is one of the greatest linguistic videos ever made. It was particularly great because the guests had a good sense of history and linguistics and could help us connect the dots. This channel has done a lot of good and I wish Bahadoor all the best. No offense to past guests but it would be great if you get people with similar profiles in the future.
Such an amazing video. I had not heard of Shughi or Wakhi languages before this video
Great to see me friend Ozar In the video! Havn't heard from him for years! I am glad that he is fine! Great video dear Bahador! Thank You
Я сам таджик по национальности,у меня много друзей памирцев и я считаю,что мы одна нация и хочу, чтобы в Таджикистане Памирский язык стал вторыми официальным ❤
какой именно из памирских языков? их очень много
@@vvertyqvverty8784 какая разница, у таджикского тоже много разных диалектов, но официально это литературный фарси
@@vvertyqvverty8784
Начнём хотя бы с Самого многочисленного, шугнанский а на Памире каждый регион на своем от язгулямского до ваханский.
@@sadpoet1624нет уважаемая есть граждане Таджикистана ,то есть таджикстанцы ,а есть таджики и памирцы
Абсолютно разные и по языку и по культуре во всем
Вы ж не можете говорить что лев это тигр а тигр это леопард, абсолютно разные животные
Надеюсь я вам смог объяснить
@@davlatmir4562 это ты так считаешь
Wow! So much linguistic variation in the Iranic language family itself!
Ozar jan said Tajik and Persian farsi are British and American English. Well said!
Che xosh goft ferdowsi e pākzād
Ke rahmat bar ān torbat e pāk bād
Hello from Turkey, I am really appreciating all of your efforts for this much research, gatherings and respecting every culture and language.
You are a man of honor for Persian Land and the world.
I just wanted to add something in Pashto, I am native Pashto and Dari (Afghanistan Persian) speaker and notice that the sentence “Os ta weenum” or “اوس تا وینم” is included in Pashto too. And we are using it on a daily base I think she had a misunderstanding there.
Weenum : وینم
Mean I see
Weeni : وينې
Means you see
And we have poets describing the word “Weenum” as I see.
تورو تورو شپو کې څه رنګین خوبونه وینمه
Means I SEE colorful dreams on dark nights.
So just in case of adding more information to your joyful videos.
Keep it up! ♥️
Same in shughni
Uz/Az Winum - I see
Tu/Ta Weeni - you see
Mash Weenam - we see
Tama weenet - you (plular) see
Wath weenen - they see
Dath weenen - those see
Math weenen - these see
Yu weent - he sees
Ya weent - she sees
Id wint - it sees
Yam weent - this /that see
Thats true i am from Pakistan we also use za tata wenum or goram, lidal, katal etc... all words use for just to see
Pashtuns one of the most Iranic race, even the similarities goes back Achaemenid era mostly the numeric sound. At current situation in Afghanistan Pashtun are very anti Iranic and anti Persian hope they realise the origin root goes back thousands years not only centuries from establishment Durrani empire.
@@zeelusxuniversal3095Pashtuns don't hate anyone espicially when it come to their own race,some Persians trynna consider themselvs higher over other races thats why Kurds Balochs and Pashtuns hate them or not people are very friendly and well being with each other
2:32 "uz tu winum" would be "ez te dibînim" in Kurmanji Kurdish. It's interesting how these languages have remained similar even after thousands of years without contact.
in Kandahar pashto dialect we're saying "Os de winam" which means " I'm seeing you now". 🙂
Min tu debinem in southern Kurdish.
In Pashto, this can also be said "us ta winum" (I'm seeing you now). She said it correctly too, but with a different aspect and tense.
@@churgooray Wow, Pashto still has the "W." Very interesting.
@@bhka6423 I can't think of a "v" sound anywhere in the Pashto language: there is only a "w", across all the dialects I know and have heard.
Also, not long ago, the "f" sound was pronounced as a "p" (e.g. Asip instead of Asif. Parsi instead of Farsi. Arabic "farq" prounounced "paraq", parishta instead of farishta). This has changed in the last 20-30 years as education and exposure to the outside world has increased, but, if you find older Pashto speakers from villages, you can still hear it.
I’m guessing Pashto is not her mother language otherwise she would have known that the Pashto equivalent of the Shugni “Uz tu winum” would be “Za ta/de/tase winum” and not “Za ta lidale yam”. Coincidentally, in Kurdi it is “Az ta binam”
Za de lidale yam,,, will be more like you saw me (past tense)
ليدل & کتل - past tense
ګورل & وينل - present tense
Just add به to present tense (before or after depends) to make it future tense
She has just learned it , no she is not a pashtoon , she can not speak it well .
@@agulm6625
What is she then
@@saimraja2119in the part where she speaks a lot ,she says I am not from Peshawar ,therefore non pashtoon but I’ve learned it ,means she’s not pashtoon .It’s not her mother tongue , which explains all the mistakes she’s making and why the language don’t flow and hesitations she makes .. She seems to be a hindko speaker who has learnt it somewhat from other students . Where she says in Pashto it’s different for month and she says we call month ( miash) , they are talking about 3 months which would be more similar to the first speaker because 3 months is actually (meashti ) . Her mistake , amoungst others .
@@agulm6625
If she is not pashtun then what is she
One of best video ❤️❤️❤️❤️⭐⭐⭐ thank you bro
The girl isnt even Pashtun and cant speak Pashto
Greatest Video so far ❤️
Wow great video keep it up
As always, amazing and very interesting!
Thank u so much for educating us ❤
very fruitful discussion, I really appreciate your effort for language preservation and promotion. I enjoyed and got many things from you! hope you will continue this for more and more learning!
this girl cant even speak Pashto lmao
@@DRAZindabad she can
Just watched a video on the Scythians on kings and generals and this was recommended.
Same
Ahahaha the youtube hole gets deeper and deeper...
The Pamir languages are the oldest and most valuable source for the study of all Indo-European languages. We Tajiks must protect and preserve these languages. Unfortunately, there is a process of Tajikization (Persization) of the Pamiri people and some Pamiris forget their native language. It is necessary to take measures at the state level to preserve these valuable ancient languages of our ancestors. Best regards, from Dushanbe.
I don't know about elsewhere but in Afghanistan, Tajiks and other Persian speakers shame those who don't speak Persian, especially Pashto speakers!
Pamir is a beautiful place also
In Yemen, the South Arabian languages (South Semitic) are being wiped out too because of the Saudi-UAE led wars they've waged on the country since 1951. Pretty soon there will only be Arabic (Northwest Semitic) left in Yemen. We are witnessing a genoçide of the South Arabian languages and Zaydis in front of our eyes.
It's really disheartening to see languages last until 1800s/1900s only to be wiped out in the 21st century when there exists recording equipment, documentation/teaching ability, etc. The Ubykh and Arshtin languages of the Northwest Caucasus went extinct as a result of the Russian Empire's conquest of the Northwest Caucasus in the 1800s when they committed genoçide against the Circassians, Abaza, Ubykh and Arshtin peoples; the latter two were made extinct, while the former two had 60% exterminated and surviving 30% exiled to the Ottoman Empire. Today Circassians makes up under 4% of the population in their own land. Sochi is used as a resort city where Olympics, World Cup, etc are held and the Stadium is built on top of a Circassian grave site. And in Chína the Pamiri minority, and the Uíghur, Kazakh and Kyrgyz minorities are being wiped out as well.
@@TheBatmanNJ I am speaking from my experience! Ok maybe it is not like that in Afghanistan, is that what you're saying? Cuz it happens ALL the time to me in the U.S. And that's my real life experience. You can't say that is false. I should also add that it may not be just Tajik Afghans who do this in U.S. but also Pashtuns who only speak Farsi/Dari.
@@TheBatmanNJ Urdu speakers don't do that to me because I am not from the same country as them. What a silly analogy. Everyone knows Persian speakers put other languages down. Stop straight up lying. F00l
Learned a lot thank you
Love and respect for our Pashtun cousins from Balochistan❤️🙏
No love for Punjabis? You make me cry !
@@shawns5599 😂😂😂
Love and respect to my Baloch cousins from a Pashtun ❤️❤️❤️.
Zindabad Balochistan
@@yousafdaudzai3078 hehe. At least I made you laugh ;)
@@yousafdaudzai3078 Thank you Yousaf, Zendag bat (Long live) Pashtunistan.
in Romania, where the Alani went, the cat is pisica; Dutch and English use puss. The Alani went to Ossetia, as well as Hungary. Iaşi is the city in Romania where they settled
In kurdisj cat is pisik. Interesting
They went all over Europe upto North Africa and Spain
Wow so interesting I didn't know that in Pashto we say "Pichi" پیشي for cat.
Some Alan's when to Mongolia in the 1300s and today they are the modern Asud people(asse/osset) and also called Jasin.
In lori of khuzestan cat = pisho پیشو
In Samarkand we say “zangor” and in Badakhshan-Pamir also say “zangor” its means green color
In Pashto it's Zarghonay
@@yousafdaudzai3078 what is the root of that?
I thought it was sheen
@@zackkahn6992 In original Pashto it is Zarghon in modern It can also be use for green as well as Blue
@@yousafdaudzai3078 isn't zarghoun more a Persian term? And yes you are right, sheen can refer to green or blue.
In pashto we say “os de wenam” for I am seeing you exactly like the pamiri.
Yeah, the girl used ليدل another verb for "see" although وينل would have been the obvious cognate.
The Pashto version would have been "zö tö wīnöm"
@@DrRiq Lidal cannot be use for present It can be use for Past. While Winam can be use for present as well as future
In Past it is used a little bit but In Past it will turn to Katal
Goru/Ogora is also used for present which means to watch
@@DrRiqLideli is the past tense not another verb lol
in kurdish
ez te dibînim
50% kinda same as in pashto
Os de wenam means I see you right now
I love your videos
Iran, Tajikistan, Afghanistan and Pakistan share cultural roots.
Don't forget Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, Armenia, and Iraq as well
@@tannazmehrdadi8774 Yes very true. Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, Kazakhistan, Kirghizistan and Turkmenistan.
@@shaheenqizilbash9811 🙌🙌
@@tannazmehrdadi8774 no simlarty culture whith turk
We cultural is diffrent from turk
@@erfan6132 As an Karapapak Terekeme Turk which is a part of Azerbaijanian Turks I agree with you. We are different.
I learned about your fantastic channel from a recent Roqe episode. Thanks to Jian for this. I would suggest showing dispersion maps of the presented dialects. You go Bahador Alast!
Thank you Kaveh jan, and also thanks for the suggestion. I'll certainly try to implement it in future videos.
Great video Bahador but the girl was pushton and she couldnt guess 2 word which were similar to wakhi and shughni like see is also (وینم) weenum in pashto and wet is also (خیشت) kheesht in pashto
Girl was not pushton
true we also use the word khisht
Sir I think Pashto is a lovely language with having different dialects making some difference in words.
She is too Beginner
She have made major mistakes
Oh, interesting!
Next: Ossetian-Alan, Yagnobi, Peshtun
Unfortunately Yagnobi is an engendered language and it's hard to find someone who speaks the language.
@@meysamghahremaninejad6809 Right
I would like to be added for Pushto
I'd love to see one of these with Yaghnobi and Ossetian speakers!
Are you Ossetian ?
Yagnobi horse- Asp
Ossetian horse- Aess
Yagnobi black smith- sarmast
Ossetian-black smith- saarmad
i love these videos
what beautiful content I got on TH-cam, I am also a Wakhi speaker from Pakistan and this video was like a language history especially the related sounds and words
Amazing
In this video there are many familiar words for me. I am from Khorezm, my language was also part of the Iranian group. Very beautiful languages, need to keep them.
unfortunately, the Khorezmian language disappeared due to the appearance of the Turks, Uzbeks and Turkmens
What a great video make a video about western iranic languages plz
The girl was not even ethenic pashtun. How the hell could she relate eastern irania words. I mean if she was ethnic pashtun she must have known the word khvesht which means wet in pashto apart from lond. She totally destroyed the purpose
exactley lol
@ꫝarry K Yeah shes probably hazarwel like you mr harry k
@ꫝarry K i love commenting with you.
Your not a khattak bruh
your Moms a hindko
your not khattak brub
your moms a hindko
your not khattak bruh
your mom hindmo
even worse when you dont even know pashto. Your like the same thing as this girl in the video 😂😂
@ꫝarry K you literally arent pashtun or speak pashto
ghalay kina
@ꫝarry K Im making fun cosyour mixed hahahahahaahahahahaha. Which khattak village are your from mr harry k
Ara mest khir rukh nawvud (Pashto: Dré myaste raňa nawala)
Brilliant video. The sound quality was not so good though.
I really appreciate your efforts. I see much similarities between Afghan and Ossetian. As they say “Uz tu winum” is the Sam in Pashto “ Oas tu winum” . It would’ve nice to bring Ossetian and Afghans in one programs together.
What a great language video
Please put a native speaker of Pashto on your videos I'm the future. There was many similarities noted between the other two Iranic languages which the girl simply did not pick up, often sitting there silent and clueless (with all due respect to her). A shame really since I had been waiting for a video on Pashto for some time. I hope more videos on Pashto could be made with the right people on them.
Yeah I also noticed the girl in many places sge was confused and especially she didn't knew the Northern + southern dialect.
Like when the guy said ter she didn't knew that ter is used by southern pashto and tor is used by the Northern one.
So true I am sure it is not that hard to find a Pashto speaker that speaks in Pashto properly instead of people like her that don't know their language and are struggling.
@ꫝarry K look at her face she don’t know how to speak pashto
@ꫝarry K Shes not Pashtun. She is probably a Hindko or someone who had learnt pashto. she missed so much on it
They shouldve brang in ribal pashtuns in.
With all respect to her.
Yes
- *Arai mest* khir rukh *na Vud*
- *Three month* sun shine *Was not*
@Pamir Badakhshan
I hope this isn't too redundant, but just gonna leave this here so it finds you. You are the Ozar Olm. in the video above, right? I do a lot of work with Iranic autosomal genetics, and, in general, interested in the legacies of the Sintashta-Petrovka Eastern Corded Ware folk, be it Sogdians, Mitanni, Rigveda, and the like. From all the modern populations, Pamiri groups are the most intriguing to me and I wanted to audio chat a bit with you about their ethnogenesis---if you are down. Either Skype or Zoom or smth of the like. My email is anthrosurvey1@gmail.com, so please contact me there.
I am a pushtoon Love to my eastern Iranian brothers and sisters from Afghanistan
ممنون بهادرعزیز ❤️
The girl doesn’t know how to speak Pashto properly.
In Pashto they say “Oz ta winum” as well for “now I see you” or “Ze ta winum”( i see you) I don’t know why she came up with some completely different sentence (which wasn’t even grammatically correct), besides that her pronunciations are completely off as well, she literally even used “Pathan” for Pashtuns which is a term solely used by Indo-Aryans for Pashtuns, it’s never used by Pashtuns themselves, that would be equivalent to an Iranian today calling himself “Ajam” in Farsi.
The girl isn’t even Pashtun and simply learned the language, nothing wrong with that, but to use that as a representation for us Pashto-speakers does not do us right. I am truly disappointed Bahador, I’ve loved your videos but this one makes me uncomfortable as a Pashtun. How would you feel if we would take an Arab who learned basic Persian and speaks it very broken to represent the Persian language in one of your videos ? Probably not good and it wouldn’t do the language right, I hope that next time you’ll be able to find a proper Pashto-speaker for your video, thank you.
calm down bro
Must be a different dielect
@@shahji5119 It’s not a different dialect, I speak and know every single Pashto dialect from Helmand to Peshawar, I can recognize when someone’s speaks my language natively or not, she quiet literally said herself in the video that she only learnt Pashto and isn’t a native speaker.
@@Bazinga3972 👌
i met many pashtoons from peshawar side.They even used english words in speaking.In my opinion the girl may be that kind of pashtoon.I am a saraiki speaker from north punjab and i learnt pashto through my friends and then by social media by reading news articles in pashto.The pashto speaken in afghanistan is mostly influenced by persian and in pakistan ,it is influenced by Urdu.Ofcourse i also became surprised when she didnot get the word winum.
I would’ve been cool to add some Dari and Pashtoon speakers from Afghanistan. Always fun videos though Bahadur
The girl is using a very weak and improper Pashto
the Pashto version of "Uz ta winum" is "ze taa winam"
Well she understood it right away but afterwards she added another version from her own dialect. I would not hold against her.
She should have said za taa winum ( I see you ) but instead she said ( now I see you ) like as if she count see before . Her Pashto is weak .She also used ma for I instead of ze in the wrong way .
Great video. You should do sorani and persian
Sorani ?
Who they are?
Where they live ?
It's name sounds very much like a tribe of Pushtun "suri/sori"
@@edwardc7112 it's one of the Kurdish dialects
@@saeidezatolahi3482 ah okay.
ممنون از ویدیو زیباتون بهادر جان و همچنین تلاشتون برای نزدیک کردن اقوام ایرانی به هم دیگه و معرفی زبان های شیرین ایرانی به دنیا اما متاسفانه خیلی از مردم دنیا فکر می کنن ما عرب هستیم که خیلی ازاردهنده
بازم ممنون برای کار زیبایی که انجام می دهید❤️❤️❤️
Another interest video thanks to Bahador.
As a western Iranic speaker I always like to learn about eastern Iranic languages. I hope to see some videos on less known western Iranic languages such as Gilaki(which is my background btw), Talyshi, Zazaki, Tati etc.
Venam means seeing
I would be very interested by a Pashtun / Irani meeting for understanding the mutations of Pashtun
Iranis speak farsi right. A bit of simarlities
but Pashto has way more in common with Ossetian, Pamiri and Yaghnobi as well as pamiri
PS. the girl in the video isnt pashtun. shes just a chick who learnt pashto from online i think and made mamy mistakes
for example we also say wuz ta weenum. Meaning il see you now.
Sweet Pamiri languages. Love from Dushanbe.
In baluchi Dushanbe is a name of a day
@@yourwifesfirsthusband2038 dushanbe Seshanbe Chorshanbe 😂 in Tajik language
Hey Bahador. Can you make a video for Dutch and Afrikaans ? I want to know if they can understand each other.
they're like Urdu and Hindi
This Video brings an important and much needed information for students of linguistics who are interested in the eastern branch of indo-european languages. This branch is called 'satem'. The western branch is called 'kentum'. Satem and kentum mean one hundred. For Europeans and Westerners this clip is a great surprise. Many Thanks for showing written Saka at 6:16 of the time line. Where can written Saka be found?? What texts do we have in Saka for the world to see? A long Buddhist teaching was written in Saka. I have the text in English! Avatamsakasutra. The text is very very beautiful.
Some archeologists found Saka burials in Kazakhstan and if I’m not mistaken it had written objects too, search for Kazakhstan’s Saka archaeological excavations - maybe you will find something interesting
The subject should not be confused with the particle in the language. The word "yam" in Pashto means the subject, in the Wakhi "yam" the particle is an indication. The structure of the grammar of the East Iranian languages is few, and in some of which it has many differences.
In Pashto we also say, اوس تا وینم (Os Taa Weenam) meaning "I can see you. "
Lidalay kho Pakhwa zamane la istimaligi
That one mean i am seeing you now...
But if going by cognates, it would be 'za ta winam'
Fascinating .
I know,
I can't wait to see these comparisons between the languages and its dialects spoken in my homeland Karadeniz (Turkey)/Southeast BlackseaCoast:
Armenian - Hamshen
Georgian - Lazuri
Greek - Pontiaka/Romeika
Aren't there anyone who can speak one of these dialects who can participate???
I wish I would have known the Native language of my Pontian ancestors, so I'm asking anyone from this region who knows one of these dialects. Hopefully we'll find them. Until then I will go on asking for this. 😉
@Lethean yess unfortunately they dont wanna have another ethnic roots they're all want to be just Turkish and this is so sad lots of laz people cant speak their own language
in Gilaki for cat we say ''pishe'' or ''piche'' , for three ''so'' or ''se''(without h sound) and for daughter ''detar''. loved it .
Gilaki is Just Dialect Of Persian
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Gilaki is not dialect of persian
@@BigIVI They’re Assimilated
@@simkoshkak6732 Gilaki is a North-West Iranian language, while Persian is a South-West Iranian language. How could one be a dialect of another when they are not even descended from the same West Iranian subfamily? Assimilation is of course a current trend, but a different matter.
@@mohammadvakhideh2183 داداش این کرد فقط داره تفرقه میندازه حرفاش جدی نگیرید
In Samarkand we say 'pishak' (means - a cat), 'tortanak' (means - a spider), 'raftam' (means - I am leaving, or went or going), 'raxmat' (from arabic - thanks), 'zah' (means - moist) and so on.
Pesho =cat in pashto
In Iranian Persian we say pishi and gorbe for cat but pishi used by little kid or who want to say go for cat
We say Mushuk too in Samarkand.i didnʼt hear about Raftam
@@Fenixsamarkandianraftam is used by Tajik speakers in Samarkand
Persian inhabited those lands long ago, and the names are even Persian, and later the Turks came.
درودهای بسیار بر شما برادران و خواهرم . پاینده باشید
The Pashtun girl kept utilising foreign words in her sentences. She should have employed more cognate-friendly words/sentences. The Kashmiri guy knew some Pashto already so had some advantage.
I think it would have been good to have gotten a Pashtun linguist. The two guys knew a lot and contributed well.
Edit: but she did say some words right. "Wet" in Pashto is لند. Not sure why people are disputing that, I haven't heard another word for wet
Wet is LUND
and Khusht is also used man
We use both of them like Za da baaran da laasa Lund Khusht shwam
I am wet because of rain
We use Khusht is used for moist I think
Another mistake is Green In Pashto is called as Zarghon and Blue as Sheen
@@yousafdaudzai3078 I was taught that green is شين/شنه as in شنه چۍ. Blue is هودی
@@DrRiq Da ghalat day
Sheen blue ta wayi ka khyal kay mung Pukhtana osam Che Asman blue wee no sa wayu? Che Asman Sheen day.
@@yousafdaudzai3078 what do you call green tea?
Uz tu winum--Yo te veo (spanish) a slight similarity between far indeoeuropean brothers.
What it means in English?
(I am a Pashtun)
@@yousafdaudzai3078 yo te veo (I see you)
@@cosmokaulitz22 Yo means I
Te means You
Veo means see
???
@@yousafdaudzai3078 yes, exactly.
@@cosmokaulitz22 Ohh that's cool
Unlike the Turks we are not United under one main name.
It's interesting how written Wakhi contains Latin, Cyrillic and Greek letters. And still requires diacritics to represent all the sounds in the language.
That is a new invention, it was a mostly oral language written in persioarabic script in the past
@@faiqsabih3215My late uncle, Haqiqat Ali from Gojal, Northern Pakistan was the first to introduce the Wakhi writing system which primarily combined Latin and Cyrillic alphabets.
عالی
It was an interesting discussion about Sakas. Even we had Indo-Sakas who were the Iranian people that migrated to India in the middle of the 2nd century BC to the 4th century AD.
The first Saka king in India established Saka power in Gandhara, and Indus Valley.
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And Buddha was from Saka if I’m not mistaken
@@santosh-un2bj Gandhara People were Indic people
@@yousafdaudzai3078 I'm guessing they were more Dardic.
@@ia285 Gandhara was an Indian kingdom of Mahajapandas.
PASHTO the largest EASTERN iranic language
Pashto is not eastern-iranic. Pashto is a germanic language !!
True
@@TheBatmanNJ😂😂😂
I'm scared of the Tajik guy. He looks and sound pretty aggressive.😂
I know him from social media. Trust me, he can be the most fun guy when in the mood😉
@Ali Reza then join us on Telegram! Contact “bahador alast” to send u invitation
@@JavidShah246 😉😉
Lol I think the video isn’t full but edited maybe that’s why
He looks like a very strong and powerful man.
Alans is derived from Eran (Iran) since in that language "r' changes to "l".
You should do a video but with Ossetian speakers as well.
هزاران سپاس از استان سرخن دریا
güzel videolara devam ...
I would love to see one with a Romani and Hindi or Punjabi speakers.
Definitely yes
"Mest" sounds similar to month in Slavic languages.
Such beautiful languages. When you mentioned that some dialects sound like poetry, it made me think about second generation immigrants to North America who have said that when they speak their language to relatives over seas they sound like they're reading Shakespeare because things changed so fast.
@ 6:10 The writing system shown in the picture is Sharda Script(Native to Sanskrit and Kashmiri). I am amazed by the fact that our writing system was also used to write Iranic languages. Though it's completely obsolete now. Only a few Kashmiris know now, to read and write this beautiful script.
I’m assuming that many Buddhist Kashmiris made missionary missions into Khotan. The Saka also used Brahmi, Khorasthi and Sharada too.
@@FirstLast-ug4ri Interesting, I didn't knew about that. But Sharda wasn't much common in Buddhists it was mostly used by Hindus plus Kashmir didn't had many Buddhists as it wasn't much popular in Kashmir. Though I guess our northern neighbours of Gilgit Baltistan who were Buddhists at that time must have used Sharda for saka languages.
@@nikunjarya9641 indian influence was spread till kabul kandahar strip until the turkic invasions . in those times eastern afghanistan was considered culturally a part of india
@@byron-ih2ge Yes, but still, Iranic people being Hindu or Buddhists is quiet unimaginable. Imagine there accent while chanting Sanskrit verses.
@@nikunjarya9641 if a completely alien dravidian group can chant sanskrit shlokas then i dont think i closely related iranic group would have any problem!!
Ez in Kurdish means I. Uz in Pamiri. I have learned that vowel changes happen quite a bit.
Rast = Right
I see you. The same word-za ta winum
We said in Pashto
In uzbek language o'z (uz) means myself. Clearly a borrowed word from a Eastern Iranic language to Uzbek.
@Mādai in turkish its kendim, in Azeri it is öz. In Persian it is Khodam
I or My was Ez in older Persian and still in many languages like Kurdish, Pashtu, Soghdi and Ossetian.
@@IranAzadLoading xud/khud is myself in many languages.
@@IranAzadLoading yes
I am êzîdî and i ubderstand about 60%.
next video kurmancî and goranî ? Since goran and êzîdî have very old iranic religions. Yarsan and êzîdî
Ez Kurdim Silav û Rêz J bo Hemû Êzîdî🌹
@@simkoshkak6732 sar çavên min brako. Az jî kurd im bryaê min
where are you from ? Are you êzîdî
@@KBBelite47 Nawallah Heval Ez ji Silêmanîm Êzîdi Nima
@@simkoshkak6732 sar çavan. I am from germany and there are 250 000 êzîdî living here.
@@KBBelite47 👍🏻❤️
In pashto, "uz tu winum" is the same, the girl said a grammatically incorrect sentence. In my dialect I would pronounce it " wos ta winum"
Just like in Shughni (Pamiri)
1:58 sterge for eyes, possible connection to english stare and german starren?
both come from same root
Basically these language are like modern Scythian and Saka languages?
Exactly
Yeah its so cool
The number of cognates with Russian in both Pamiri languages is striking. Both guys even sound like Russians...
i notcied 2. even when i speak pashto around a russian friend of mines
he always says why does it sound russian but not russian wtf 😔😭
nice
I understand Pamiri and Wakhi more than farsi!! I speak Pashto!
That's normal.
@@bhka6423 Yeah. I guess because Farsi and Pashto are both Afghanistan's main languages I thought they would be more closely related to each other than other languages are haha. I guess since Farsi is Western Iranian and Pashto is Eastern Iranian that would explain it :D
@@ZeeZee9 Yes, eastern Iranians can understand each other but we struggle a little bit to understand you.
@@bhka6423 I see. Yeah,
This girl is not pashto speaker.. She can't guess some words like word winum which same in pashto
I think learned pashto, she is not pashton
So if uz or z is me or I that's why in the note of Cyrus the grate he says adam Kurush or azam Kurush xshayesya vazarga
very insteresting
2:34 the pashtun girl didn't pay attention correctly to this sentence. "Uz tu winum". We say in Pashto "Os de winam" اوس دي وینم which means "I'm seeing you now" in Kandahar Afghanistan dialect. But she missed the sentence.
shes not even a pashtun girl lol
Another dall eater panjabi, matter of fact she doesn’t look like that much Pashtoon, her accent is more like a Indian speaker.. also real pashto is spoken in Afghanistan, not in Pakistan. Pakistani pashtoon is mixed with Urdu.. so they r not Pashto speakers
@@davzam7082 The girl is NOT pashtun however you are also wrong. Real Pashto is spoken in Afghanistan and Pakistan in KP.
Waziristani Paktia and the tribal pashto is the PUREST pashto. No dirty farsi words or urdu
@@SherKhan-rd9uw ok dal khor , panjabi
She meant the same , just her pronounation was off , she should have said za taa winum instead she said now I see you ..she shouldn’t have added the word now (os).
My mother says kitik (sounds like cat) besides psik/pshik for cat in Kurmanci/Kurdish😀