Why Putin Couldn't Invade Finland - TLDR News
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Finland might share a huge land border with Russia, but it's not sweating. Finland is one of the most uninvadable countries in the world with some truly incredible defences and mechanisms in place to make them very very difficult to defeat
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I was told there is a joke among Finnish military that goes something like this; one time some junior officer suggested "what if the training had the "enemy" come from the west instead?", the other officers nods and agrees, "yes Russia might do a flank attack through Sweden..."
lol good one i remember hearing that one as well xD
Yeah, heard similar jokes in my time 😅. Captain was briefing us this the enemy has been smart and is attacking from west.. and we were like.. oooooo.. gave giggles to our Cap 😆
when the snow starts speaking finnish
@@markusklyver6277 By now the bedrock in Finland speaks Finn - points at the bunkers. It's not just the civil defense that has those holes in the rock. It just isn't something presented publicly where it comes military. Basically all one can know is that something exist, cause some people care about what ever exists.
”Yellow nation”
The way a Finn described it to me: every aspect of our country is designed to make it as difficult and expensive as possible for Russia to invade.
Well yeah its almost as if we were born to defend ourselves from Russia. It's a constant thing in the back of our minds
There is contracts with land owners near the border already made to build/train to build fortifications. Every road from the border has a plan made on what bridges and roads will be destroyed or put a mine field on. Every bridge has a built in place for explosives to break it as efficiently as possible. Military has contacts with companies that they will come to ade on building fortifications, use their trucks to move military equipment, convert factories to produce military equipment etc. There is even a plan for civilian ATV:s, snowmobiles, dirt bikes and off-road capable vehicles that military can take to be used in a case of war.
Yes. This country is built and planned to be protected with any costs and to be ready as fast as possible.
Some might think Finns are a bunch of doomsday preppers, but considering most other countries are under prepared when shit ultimately hits the fan, I'd much rather go with this plan. Better be safe than sorry.
@@sarionilkka it is all good but finland preparing for another winter war, but all changed pretty much
@@tsugumorihoney2288 bullshit.
Well, I mean, every time Russia tries to invade Finland, some crazy Fin goes and kills an inordinate number of Russian troops. There's a joke about this based on a true story.
A large group of Russian soldiers in the border area in 1939 are moving down a road when they hear a voice call from behind a small hill: "One Finnish soldier is better than ten Russian".
The Russian commander quickly orders 10 of his best men over the hill where Upon a gun-battle breaks out and continues for a few minutes, then silence. The voice once again calls out: "One Finn is better than one hundred Russian."
Furious, the Russian commander sends his next best 100 troops over the hill and instantly a huge gun fight commences. After 10 minutes of battle, again Silence. The calm Finnish voice calls out again: "One Finn is better than one thousand Russians!"
The enraged Russian commander musters 1000 fighters and sends them to the other side of the hill. Rifle fire, machine guns, grenades, rockets and cannon fire ring out as a terrible battle is fought...
Then silence.
Eventually one badly wounded Russian fighter crawls back over the hill and with his dying words tells his commander, "Don't send any more men...it's a trap. There's two of them."
I forgot about this joke and it's so funny thanks for making me remember it
After all Finnish army was defeated. Probably consisting out one man ... or two ...
This is my favorite joke of all-time!😁
@@timoilonen1926 It's not a joke
@@mrc5944 I know, I'm from Finland
There was a media press conference where the media (foreign) interviewed Finnish and Swedish army officers. One foreign journalist asked how they could communicate when the Finnish language isn't even in the same "language tree" as Swedish and is so different. Finnish officer : (looked at the Swedish officer) and said in English " how do you think we can manage?" and the Swedish officer replied, " I have no idea".
agreed!
better, they could probably just speak swedish. Swedish is the second native language in Finland, I bet a lot of finnish officers can speak it, as they are used to make common trainings.
And anyway, they are both probably the best english-speaking people in Europe, then…
Most of finns speak swedish. Swedish second official language of finland. Most of finns learn swedish in secondary school or even before as it's required, there are exceptions though.
@@rintamarotta Most finns definitely don't speak swedish, idk if you grew up in the southwest, but you'd have a hard time finding a swedish speaking person where I live.
@@justasnowball Grew up in North Karelia, most people definetly know how to speak swedish. After all its mandatory language in school.
putin: if finland tries to join nato, it could go quite badly.
finland, who has been preparing for round 2 for the last 8 decades: yes- for you
Finland: "call an ambulance, but not for me"
Judging by how it's going in ukraine, I wouldn't count on the russians even reaching the border
when the snow starts speaking finnish
@@hipercapnia Ukrainians takes prisoners. Finns don't. They shoot to kill. No need for ambulances to Russians. They need Funeral cars.
Even finnish squirrels would kick orcs' arses the hell out of here...
As a swede I am very happy to have Finland as a neighbour!
Yes, you could appriciate us little more. Many times we get this snobby reception in Stockholm.
@@hilzzer Trust me so do I. Its a local thing don't hold it against us😘
It is great to have Sweden in neighbor. We can be sure the western side is safe and focus on the eastern side. It would be much harder to focus on two sides. It is an honor to be brother for Sweden.
Likewise! 🇫🇮🇸🇪
@@hilzzer Swedes are also met like this by some Finns, they just can't resist the urge to tell us how stupid, deluded and feminized we are, just irrational hate.
finally a country who is willing to do whatever to protect it's people. The rest of the world can learn from Finland ❤️👍🏾
Thank you🇫🇮❤️
Why won't it help Neighboring Ukraine?
@@evm6177 you might want to look Finnish equipment there first. APC:s, AT:s, assault rifles to name a few. Goverment doesnt speak out these aid packages to protect them in order to actually get them to Ukrainian hands.
im planning to move to finland!
Then Finland is joining Nato in order to attack Russia then ??
Helsinki is one of the most beautiful cities I've visited and I stayed with some absolutely lovely Finns. It's amazing to find out that beneath the surface they are so prepared for war. I'm now even more impressed. Welcome to NATO, brothers and sisters! We are very glad to have you.
And we Finns are very glad to come to you and go with you!
🇫🇮💙NATO
J@@timoilonen1926 Jouni Nurmi im FInnish American citicen of the both countries lived 30 years in USA im 62 years old and love both of them , creat people and military povers! yes to NATO !
Thank you friend!
Rakkautta Suomesta🙏❤🇫🇮
exactly! 31 years in Finland 31 years in USA! two great Countries! Finnish American dual citizen!
Tampere is way more beatiful than Helsinki really!! Welcome🫡🇫🇮
The best revenge is living well, which makes the fact that Finland can invest so much into preparing for another Russian invasion and still maintain a higher standard of living than Russia all the sweeter.
They won't be running out of sno - cone supplies anytime too soon. . . . .
The inhabitants of North Sentinel Island have a higher standard of living than Russia.
when the snow starts speaking finnish
Finns were mostly spared from aftermath of WW2 and pretty much the entire cold war, they never had forced communism nor its collapse so of course they would (compared to say the Czechs or Poles)
@@gideonmele1556 Right, the USA has been in many wars, but does not know the true cost on our soil (Pearl Harbor and 9-11 being exceptions), except our Civil War (ca.1860-65) of course, by far the bloodiest in terms of carnage, in our history!
Makes me wonder if Finland is joining NATO or if NATO is joining Finland.
Hats off to these policies. Even though they were a result of desperate times.
desperate times is yet to come
In the times of our President Kekkonen and Finlandisation, Kruschev proposed that Finland and Soviet union would join into a single country. Kekkenon proposed Soviet Union would join into Finland.
@@no8592 I believe the exact response was along the lines of "I don't know, ruling two nations by myself would be a lot of work..."
@@BosonCollider Yes
The United States, being the most powerful member of NATO: am I fucking joke to you?
Finland is such a great nation, I would be very proud of being Finnish 🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮
Thank you very much🇫🇮❤️
🍷 🇫🇮 👍
They were conjoined with the russian hating nazis in WW2 and seems they have not changed attitude
Just before Covid my wife was in Finland visiting her family and got lost on the drive from Helskinki to Kuopio. She took a wrong turn, then another and ended up in a complex of underground tunnels leading to a bunker the size of a sports stadium. She was lost within the tunnel/bunker network for about 30 minutes and had to be rescued by a perplexed police unit.
Sorry, but I gotta do this:
KUOPIO MAINITTU! MUALIMAN NAVALLE!
🤣
Pheeew. I feared the worst
One thing worthy of note is that the Winter War was an absolute catastrophe for Russia, and is the main reason Finland was not annexed in 1939. The Russian military then was as incompetent and badly led as it is now, in Ukraine. They advanced along roads (because the forests were impassable to their vehicles) and, just like in Ukraine, the Finns were highly mobile (they used ski troops a lot) and were able to target the long Russian columns wherever and whenever they chose. They also let Russian columns cross frozen Finnish lakes, and then dynamited the ice, sending thousands of Russian troops to a watery, frigid grave. In the air Finland used whatever it could get - most notably the despised (elsewhere) Brewster B239 Buffalo to devastating effect, tearing the Red Air Force to shreds. In the end, Russia "won" by sheer weight of numbers. It was the kind of victory that can only be won by a side that doesn't care how many of its soldiers die, and that's what happened. But Finland gave Stalin such a bloody nose that he abandoned plans to take the country and settled instead for some small slices of border territory.
Indeed. The finns absolutely fucked the russians. They wouldve definitely been able to hold their territory longer with aid
1939???
I was hoping you'd base your argument on something more tangible.
@@fortofgoodhope4189 He wasn't making an argument, he was explaining a bit of history in more detail. I was hoping you'd base your comment on something more tangible.
@@Fs3i He had nothing tangible to base his comment on.
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the winter war result in the Moscow treaty which saw Finland ceding up to 9% of its land to the Soviets? I don't know all the details of that war but it doesn't seem like it was a complete catastrophe if Russia gained land. I did hear though that Stalin had purged the best military leadership.
Finland has certainly learned from its history. They have my respect and will be proud to have them as an ally!
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Maybe they can show us how to shoot on skis.
They are again making mistake same as winter war and allying with hitler.
They are now unnecessarily putting target on own children and country . Now SARMATs, Hypersonic missiles and nukes are big factors in their social life.
But they want to be stupid.
After all WHO JEOPARDIZE THEM ? NOBODY.
But still, they want to pick Bear with a stick in the eye...hehe
Thanks!👌🇫🇮
@@juidude634
Since i ser Finland flag , can you help me to understand Finnies, are they reall so afraid of Russians that they are trembing and Rush into NATO and under amarocan press6re after yrars and years of neutrality.
After all they have NO PROBLEMS nobody JEOPARDIZE Finland but they are on the rush and even DONIT WANT TO ASK OWN PPL in REFERENDUM.
What is happening there ?
As a Finnish artillery officer conscript (Chief of a Fireline Company), I approve very much of this video. Our artillery is the most capable of all armies in the world. And we do have these bunkers everywhere in this country. Every apartment building has one (by law), and there are tens of the larger bunkers in every city, small and big. I've been in several of them here in Tampere, the third biggest city in Finland. They are massive caves, usually used as a parking lot, one as a swimming hall, hobby/sport centers or just rental storages, locked off-limits storages for military and such.
How do your bunkers protect against a nuclear attack?
@@disappointedenglishman98 most of the larger bunkers are either under ground or build inside a baserock hills. They are mandatory to have a functioning air filtration system and other protective built-in systems to protect from radioactive fallout. Even the older apartment buildings built in the 40s and 50s have a design for closing all the ventilation lines for this reason. I live in 50s apartment building with my wife and son, and we have an evacuation shelter in the basement which is currently used as a bicycle storage for the residents. We have the massive blast door stored there as well, with all the heavy steel ventilation lids.
Obviously no shelter will protect anyone from a nuclear detonation happening close by, but they can be used quickly if needed.
@@OrcCorp so Putin cannot nuke ?Helsinki or if he does the whole population will survive? Why go a long way out of your way to make an enemy of Russia?
@@disappointedenglishman98 we are not hostile towards anyone, nor are we making enemies of anyone. Putin is doing all that himself. We want to be left alone, in peace, but if a push comes to shove, we are more than well prepared to defend our homes.
@@OrcCorp Your people will pay the price for crimes committed against humanity. Similar to Germany after ww2 this is why you can't start wars of conquest in 2022. Fools thinking nice people are weak people have no idea how strong love is.
After watching this video, I feel more safe as a Swede, with our excellent, Finnish neighbours! 😊
We don't need to worry about other countries. Just our rising crime rates
I can tell from all my 30 something friends everyone is 100% going to the border if russia starts something. Very high mentality to defend our country.
Correction, no country 'officially' came in support to Finland.
Also, Finland have had many wars with Russia before it was even its own country, as part of Sweden.
Sweden invading Finland with the Putin logic
•The Swedish speaking population is treated badly in Finland
•Sweden starts a terrorist group in Åland(Swedish speaking island in Finland).
•Sweden support the terrorists and starts to invade the bigger cities from the sea.
But Finland wasn't a thing back then. It was just an area of the Swedish Empire
UK and France offered to help, but because of Hitler, we couldn’t send supplies through the continent so they needed to go threw Norway and Sweden from the UK but Norway and Sweden refused to allow transit of men and material.
@@Juho221 In such case what we know now as Finland, just refers to that geographical area, I dont get why people get so hung up on names, like the Russians with Ukraine is not a thing, it does not matter what you call it, the place and the people are what define a nation and its culture, you can call it the nation of Dingus if you want, it is irrelevant.
@@OHOE1 Um, what? Have you been listening to russian propaganda or something? Or do you get a pay check from Russia for spreading misinformation?
Sweden only invaded Finland once, in the early medieval age, and made no excuse as to why. The mentality of that time was to invade in order to get more land, power and riches. All nations thought that way back then.
There was no swedish speaking minority yet in Finland. There was not even a unified nation called Finland.
Terrorist group in Åland? Are you serious? The closest thing was that time the local ålanders, to everyones surprise, successfully kicked out invading russian soldiers, with only four deaths in total. Hardly terrorism.
The other key point is geography. Despite their long border with Russia, the gnarly terrain means that there are very few viable invasion routes. Finland has had 70 years to fortify these routes and turn them into killing-zones. Any Russian columns attempting to push along these roads would be obliterated. Last time they tried they lost 160,000 men...
thus all the artillery. If you have hundreds of howitzers scattered around a choke point and sighted in on it then getting an enemy army through it would be impossible until you have found and eliminated all the artillery.
@@maydaverave Plus, literally every adult in Finland knows how to shoot a gun and lay a mine. They also have a national network of civil defence bunkers...
Even if you could win some ground there, you will be under constant attack from a citizen insurrection. It would take hundreds of thousands of troops to pacify the place - troops that Russia simply doesn't have.
@@maydaverave To ad to that we can move most of our artillery before their firing location has detected.
And our small roads have many bridges that can be destroyed very easily if needed
@@tullochgorum6323 Well shame if ryssät decide to invade here I think they have far easier to kill all civilians they meet before they can form insurection as we are nothing more than tsuhnas to them.
But it be bloody toll to for russia to try invade.
I'm from Finland and I remember grandparents had less than favorable things to say about Russia.🙄 One that stuck to my mind was "Russian is Russian even if you fry him in butter". Rough translation. That turn out to be true!🇺🇦
I'm learning so much about Finland lately! Very impressive country! I absolutely love your sense of humour, also! ❤️👌
Thank you🇫🇮❤️
The bunkers inside the earth are pretty exceptional. I've had the chance to visit one of them as part of my military conscription service back in the days and I had no idea one even existed there.
everybody who visits a parking garage in helsinki "had a chance to visit them" 🙂
every underground parking, every datacenter, the finnish coin(where money is printed) ... all that shit is deep underground behind doors thicker than i am tall.
suomi mainittu ...
You could say, when the americans brag about NORAD and cheyenne mountains...
the finns could say "hold my sahti"
but bragging about our bunkers and all the details
has no added benefit to our security situation
As the enemy is taking notes too.
Some bunkers are known better than others - lets keep it that way.
Yet, what point do nuclear bunkers have - if the world the surviors return to is useless, cannot be lived on, cannot grow food on... like.. never again...
Do we want to be 5 million refugees burdening some host country until they start to hate us?
@@zoolkhan Technically yes, but a specific bomb shelter tunnel complex that's closed from public is quite a different beast compared to car park.
Let's just hope we never have to use them for the reason they were built for.
I guess they missed out on making Finland a global superpower in the Fallout games.
@@teosto1384 there are hundreds of kilometres worth of secret tunnels too. Truly a magnificent complex.
@@tero2444 I was thinking the same thing. A whole nation surviving with its scientists and technology intact would rule the world.
Not that Finland would do it, but it could if it wasnt so damn Nice. ;-D
Imagine living in a country where the government cares about your citizens...
Mumbles something about being the happiest country in the world - at least the most content.
Do you actually think any government cares primarily for its citizens? Finland has the largest government per capita out of any Western countries, and the government is mainly for the government, sadly. It's not all that bright and happy in Finland, we're not a paradise, just a country that's been well governed until around 2000. After 2000... well, that's another story altogether. In terms of military, there is one huge failure: mines. The worst president of all times, Tarja Halonen, decided to disband all mines. I don't think anyone has ever died because of a mine in Finland after the 2nd WW, which makes this decision an absurd one. Of course, there is the fact that our president was most likely an agent for the USSR/East Germarny in the 70's and 80's...
@@urpoukko yes. Obviously some governments care more about their people than others. There's a reason why Scandinavia is at the top of statistics every time
@@Slydime917 It doesn't mean that the Finnish government cares for its citizens now. In the past, it did. No more.
@@urpoukko Just anti-personnel mines are part of the Ottawa Treaty.
In Sweden, we have great admiration for how the Finns fought during these wars. Many Swedes volunteered to help Finland and afaik there was material aid as well. Don't know if I would say that Finland lost the wars, they definitely didn't have the most losses.
Finland is extremely innovative, just like Sweden. A lot of high tech comes from Finland (and Sweden, often cooperation). However Finns are also shy and humble, and so nobody knows our full capabilities.
Yeah Lutheran countries are awesome! Speaking of It was Finnish lutheran clergy Anders Chydenius who influenced Adam Smith's work. Without Anders input Adam Smith wouldn't be that well recognized.
@@normaaliihminen722 Yes, I think he was a Finnswede, like me, but he also had proper Finnish background I think. I know his brother Samuel was a famous inventor as well
One additional fact for the land based invasion: Finland has built explosive locations to every bridge. If needed, every bridge can be brought down with a very small amount of explosives.
Also all the fences that are top of rock next to highway are drilled so deep that we can pick fences up pour explosives in the hole and blow rock on the road to block them..
This all seems like it could very easily be used against Finland
@@levitschetter5288 How? Finland is the defender and the whole point of booby trapping their own infrastructure is to slow down the invader.
@@levitschetter5288 Do elaborate. I trust the people doing our defensive strategy.
I considered taking a holiday to Finland. But now I think i'd be nervous driving over any bridges, knowing they're all setup ready to blow 😟
Proof. The toughest opponents are the ones who never have to show their strength. Because they don't need to, they either know or learn the hard way. Finnland doesn't need military parades, it needs actual military.
We do have a military parade every year but its just for celebrating our independence and its just for our own entertainment.
That is why Russia, China and North Korea keeps putting on those massive military parades to intimidate their neighbors and the West looks very childish.
Their bark is worse than their bite to compensate.
Finland doesn't need a military - Finland IS the military!
@@JaakkoF Exactly!
Every blade of grass.
Nice way to present the information. Clear, summarized and (mostly) direct, without being too serious or boring.
Proud to be finish 🇫🇮
Has Finland considered bolstering its defense by stockpiling vodka all along its border with Russia? With the level of discipline shown by the Russian Army in Ukraine, its advancing columns would stop at every vodka cache and take days to sober up before advancing to the next cache, giving Finland ample time to mobilize. Of course unlike most deterrents that you have to advertise to make them effective, telling Russia about this one might cause a Russian stampede into Finland.
I don't know man, the Russians have spent many years and untold millions building tolerance to vodka. They've basically sacrificed their nation's health just to avoid that trap! Them wily bastards are playing the long game again...
If alcohol isn't enough,just line up scores of washers and dryers!
Millions of Russian citizens will flee, to become Finnish instead. That would be a disaster for Vladimir Putin. lol
We could try that 😂
there used to be a lot of local booze caches there, but making your own booze is not such a national hobby it used to be
As a Finnish person I approve this message. However, the official max mobilization force is about 900 000, you must understand that pretty much every adult man in Finland has been trained for warfare. That makes about two million. Just saying.
God bless y’all in Finland. Russia just kept on beating up on y’all but y’all didn’t take it lying down. I’m really impressed by y’all’s resilience.
Two million, eh? And how do you think they'd fare against a weasel? Or an angry weasel? No, wait.........a honey badger?
😉
Yes but we officially have equipment to arm only those 280000 soldiers. The rest ~620000 are spare parts for the green machine, although some units could be set up, but only for guard duties with light equipment.
@@DirtyMardi It wouldn't take much for other members of NATO to provide weapons in the same way they've done for Ukraine.
@@arlen_95 You've used y'all more in this one comment than I have in my entire life lol
A soviet commander heard a mocking cry from atop a hill: "One Finnish soldier equals at least TEN russian soldiers!" So, the commander gathered 10 of his best men and sent them to attack. After a short while, the sounds of battle faded. No one came back. Then they heard the same cry again: "One Finnish soldier equals at least a HUNDRED russian soldiers!" The commander gathered group of 100 soldiers and commanded them to attack. After a long and intense battle, the sounds finally faded. No one came back. One more time they heard the cry: "One Finnish soldier equals at least a THOUSAND russian soldiers!" The commander made careful preparations and battle plans and commanded 1000 of his best men to attack. The battle raged for hours, until it finally stopped. One lone survivor came crawling back and said: "Commander! We have been tricked. There are TWO of them!"
Hahaha. Best comment on youtube today.
FOOLZ!!! Iz a LIE!!! Ruzzianz are in Wezt Ruzzia, what Nazis call "Ukraine!!!" There iz NO WAR!!! It iz alzo part of Hiztoric Rizzia az iz Finland!!! Zhe Great Peter of Ruzzia. Vladmir Putin, haz declared Zpecial Operation. NO ONE FOOLZ zhe duly elected diktater of Ruzzian Federation!!! He KNOWZ zhere are TWO UKAINIANS!!! Zhe joke iz on YOU!!!! Hahahaha!!!!
Haha! You kidding me?!
@@johndeogratias8099 Your ruble is rubble, and WE did it to you. That is all your pensions gone.
All your family is going to spend their old age hungry. Which is just the beginning.
I grew up in Finland. We even had a bunker in our apartment building.
I served in 92. I have lived abroad almost my whole life. I'd come home in a blink of an eye! Suomi 🇫🇮 forever❤️
In Finland all major train tracks and highways go in a north-south direction, while the east-west directions are slow and curvy. This is to ensure a rapid response covering all of the 800 mile border fast, and slowing down invading troops from the east.
That's exceptionally smart and thoughtful!
Yet Finland's railways are the same broad gauge as Russia, so Russia could bring tanks and equipment on those straight from St Petersburg through Lappeenranta if it wanted to do so.
@@tonygibbs9339 first they would have to repair about 100km of tracks though... while artillery rains down on them
@@tonygibbs9339 Yea well, if Russia would really be stupid enough to take those tracks and use them, we wouldn’t have to hunt them. Makes everything easier. 😂
@@tonygibbs9339 That has several flaws. How are you going to use tracks when even one of bridges on your way is blown to pieces? You have to remember that Finland has a lot of bridges. Bridges that are designed to be easily destroyed if needed. Trains usually get short stick.
There are a LOT more than this that Finland is doing to be prepared for Russia's invasion, such as extensive use of mines and refusing to use standardized railway tracks to prevent Russia from using its infrastructure against itself to move troops and supplies around in a lightning war
The whole defense of Finland is also completely tailored to defend against Russia, and it constantly monitors all political and military changes in Russia and adjusta accordingly.
Finland's military leadership has in fact better information about the Russian military HW, troops and their live time movement info than seemingly Russia's leadership itself
Really in depth research and analysis. Well done
What stood out for me was that Finland had done what it could to protect all it's people while the rest of us are left to die as only our leaders had places of safety. Don't know if this would work but kudos to Finland.
Other countries rely on nuclear deterrence first while that simply wasn't an option for Finland due to the treaties forced upon it by the soviet union. Finland has always been stuck in Russia's geopolitical shadow but now it can rely on outside support it can be protected under the deterrence umbrella that other countries have, much like the baltics. Nuclear programmes are also expensive so you can just consider it a different form of nuclear defence spending
Switzerland also has a policy mandating that every building has a bunker
It's just security theatre to keep the population relaxed. It takes less than 10 minutes for a nuke to reach anywhere, how would millions rush to shelters? The _only_ defense is having enough nukes on your side to make sure in the event of a nuclear war you _completely_ exterminate the population of the attacker so your descendants will have one less problem to deal with.
If I were the invader, I'd make you subsist down there till ,one by one, you'd surrender. It's nice and compartmentalized.
Drones and missiles appear to be trumping heavy artillery , and hiding underground negates trained soldiers.
The big defense , is 'Why bother?' which suffices for dozens of countries.
Imo
Love how they also prioritize artifacts before everyone else
The last and most important point that you forgot to mention is geography.
Finland is effectively a Citadel, all approaches from East is covered with thick forests and lakes. South is covered by water. West is covered by water and a wasteland, North is covered by a wasteland and has nothing of importance, everything important is in the extreme south of the country.
Any attacking force would be seen coming far away. Any attacking force would have to deal with light infantry armed to the teeth with modern western weaponry, hiding in near impenetrable forests using camouflage techniques that block even thermal imaging devices and would have to contend with a populace that is ready to fight to the bloody end.
Attacking Finland would be a near impossibility for a NATO force. It is actually impossible for Russians.
Only reason we want to join NATO is that cruise missiles and artillery strikes hitting our apartment buildings and civilian population is something we want to avoid.
We are not afraid of losing our independence (Because that is literally impossible), we are afraid of pointless death and stagnation of our economy due to war.
i would also add joining NATO means better air power/coverage as that is an area finland is lacking in a full war
Well said
Joining something to make sure the innocent civilian population won’t be placed in harms way seems like a reasonable and even honourable thing to do.
@@Jan_Iedema yeah sure 😂
The EU is also a huge deterrand, mostly because attacking finnland means attacking an EU country, while we dont have a common defense clause in of itself, its pretty good to assume that any attack on a EU country would be followed by direct military intervention of most if not all EU member states. We are a family, no one gets to hit out brothers and sisters while they live in the same home!
Finland is being well lead, this video is really well presented and sounds so interesting, not a computer generated voice!
ive been in helsinki a few times, im from denmark.
I really like finland, specially the smaller towns and the people living there.
Damn, everyone needs to get on Finland's level.
that would be a downgrade for switzerland haha
@@cloongeorgy7553 Switzerland, LMAO
@@cloongeorgy7553 considering we've been collaborating with the swiss military for decades I suspect they would disagree with you.
I doubt many Caribbean folks would agree with you. Most don't have an army here, much less a trained populous.
@@jorionedwards Honestly, the only reason we Finns put this much effort into it either is that our independence is functionally predicated on being too much of a pain in the ass to try and conquer. If we didn't have to do it this way, we probably wouldn't. I wouldn't invest what little budget I had on defensive preparedness if I was in the Caribbean either.
Eh, you even forgot to mention some of the really important parts that help defend Finland:
1. The terrain, other than a not that wide strip by the coast, the border between Finland and Russia is heavily forested, trying to bring any significant forces down from there is impossible, and the borders to Sweden and Norway are mainly across major river (Sweden) or open expanse in far out beyond the middle of nowhere (Norway), so blitz offensives are decidedly difficult.
2. All of the bridges and tunnels in Finland that have been built since the WW2 have a mandated prepared location fro demolition charges, the location of which on each is held by the army, so if there is an attack, all the bridges and overpasses on all roads and railways leading further into Finland will be blown up in short order.
3. The coast is rocky, and coastal artillery guards all major waterways in and around the islands off the coast. Most missile and rocket launchers Finland has are also placed in the coastal artillery, so it's not just fixed emplacements that can be blown out in an anticipatory first strike.
Also, yeah, Finland has 700 howitzers in use, true. And god knows how many more older models stored in huge vaults drilled into bedrock situated all around Finland. I personally know people who have visited one of these places where they saw old field guns stacked on top of each other filling a huge room the size of a football field or so. Not the most modern stuff, I agree, and it will take time to bring them out, but Finland isn't in the habit of ever throwing away military equipment that might still be used later if worst comes to worst.
It all comes down to being always prepared for the worst possible outcome. Comes naturally due to our decidedly pessimistic national nature.
Not just the "pessimistic national nature," but also the history, foreign policy and general geography of Finland too.
Well said, it's funny how hard these things is for people who aren't from Northern Europe to understand.
Also finnish roads have deep diches to that 1 they drain the water easely and 2 they are easy to destroy.
So basically, you're the "f*ck around and find out" country.
Fin Might have Another SimoHayha.
Go Finland 🇫🇮. Sounds like a good group of people.
Finland’s terrain is also a natural deterrent. I’d love a video on that alone. Thanks for the vid
Few things to remember in most of these. Finland is basically on top of bedrock, so it's simple (though with more costs than maybe other places) to just cut into it to create bunkers. Also most of the bunkers that are for apartment blocks below them are usually used to give few square meters of storage space for all owners of the apartments. For example in our place it's a bike and maintenance utilities storage. There are requirements on how fast they need to be able to turn into shelters.
Also we have national emergency supply agency. Their mission is to keep in storage things which we would need. In addition to normal fuel and grain, they are store for example medical supplies. Side effect was that our hospitals didn't run out of ppe in the beginning of the pandemic that seemed to be issue in many other places. So our defensive plans aren't just bunkers and military.
Edit: Just to add not all the bunkers built are designed to be suitable shelters from nuclear attack.
@Zaydan Naufal I fail to see the relevance of this to my post as I was pointing out that our bunkers are largely dual use that they aren't just waste of money.
@Zaydan Naufal I’m not completely sure but I think the bunkers in Albania are made to defend against a conventional land invasion, they are not nuclear bunkers
do you see the finnish bid for Nato membership as a (popular) way to cut defense spending?
@Zaydan Naufal Albanian bunkers were actually of a totally different kind. They were concrete shelters on ground for machine gun and/or small gun positions. And not for Nuclear attack - but a good all frontal attack by a WWII type army.
@@markusz4447 Our defense spending currently is around (maybe over, I don't know specifics) 2% of gdp that nato requires. A lot of discussions around spending has been if we need to increase it as well. So no. I personally don't know how many actual active military forces we have and if they need to be increased. Most of our wartime army is in reserve.
Great video! I would have liked to see a couple additional points mentioned, which contribute to the challenge of invading Finland:
- the heavy forest cover gives year-round concealment for defensive mobility, ~70% of total land is forest
- Finland ranks very high globally in civilian gun ownership, making civilian resistance a serious problem for an invader
Put these together, and you should expect a Simo Häyhä with a scoped moose hunting rifle behind every tree.
Everyone's gangsta, until the bushes begin whispering in Finnish.
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Also 1500 artillery pieces (for reference, the second largest artillery in western Europe is owned by Poland, and they have about 700) pointed at the Russian border. Finnish artillery is also among the most accurate in the world. Anything that steps across the border will seriously regret their life decisions when the shells start falling on their exact location.
Simo never used a scope, saying it would give away his position.
@@NomicFin Yes, true, but the artillery point, with numbers, was already covered in the video. My point was to add something not covered properly in the video, ie. geography, and a cultural factor.
Amazing info. I was born in Finland, however, I have lived in North America, for most of my life! Thank you for this info!
For the record, Sweden has bunkers everywhere as well. Most larger residential buildings, parking garages, offices, etc. have "Skyddsrum", which are thick-walled, steel-reinforced underground bunkers. They are not actively used for anything other than being bunkers, though, but can be made action-ready in a very short amount of time.
They used to in the past....but as far as I know new apartment buildings are not being built with bunkers in Sweden...and in my older apartment building they dismantled our bunker and turned it into a storage area.
Finland on the edge of Europe is often overlooked and underestimated. Also in terms of history.
Finland is the edge of Europe... it is entirely surrounded by Europe.
Finland is also usually overestimated.
Finland is like 40 kilometers from the North and discounting Russia also in the eastern frontier
@@Kenruli Well, thats just ...like ...your opinion, man.
ROME also thought its uninvadable until Hannibal showed up with Elephants... no country is uninvadable
"Is Finland uninvadable ?"
Simo: "Yes."
"Who are you"
Simo: "Simo, Simo Häyhä. As known as white death"
Finland-Russia border line is pretty harsh environment to get through so that is advantage for us too
Yeah majority of our border is deep forrest it would be hard time to drive through with armored vehicles there. Roads are not even a option because there are hotspots.
Bloody good show. Good on 'em. 👍🤩
Saying that Finland lost the Winter War and the Continuation War might be putting it a _bit_ strongly: they didn't win it outright, but they preserved their sovereignty and fought the USSR to a standstill, humiliating the Soviet Union in the process.
It was the aftermath of the winter war that convinced Hitler the soviets would fall easily. And off he went with operation barbarossa
And was under Moscow's diktat until 1991. Look up on Urho Kekkonen and how he turned Finland into a Moscow lapdog just to maintain his power...
Yeah, pretty much.
They lost way less territory then expected, but most importantly, Russian losses were beyond massive compared to Finland, soldier count alone was like 20 to 1 or so
Is it though? Finland lost territory as a result of the war and the Soviet Union gained more of a buffer between St Petersburg and the Finnish border, which is one of the things they were long concerned about.
@@theotherohlourdespadua1131 Kekkonen was friendly with the Soviets but also the west, calling him a lapdog would be a over-statement
Wow, so many shelters, this is absolutely bunkers
Nice 👍🏻
We might loose, but we would make it very, very expensive for the agressor.
Finland recieved a third of Swedens warsupplies, including planes, clothes. 8000 swedish soldiers went to Finland to help with the wareffort.
Useless..... Russia is better than your.... uraaaa
You kinda glossed over the fact that despite Finland's territorial losses in the Winter War, they utterly humiliated the Russians.
YES.
I suppose because that's the part people tend to remember. It was an extremely impressive defeat, but a defeat nonetheless.
and you believe that will happen again, am i right?
@@fortofgoodhope4189 🤡
most are well aware that the Russians were humiliated. Especially since putin started waving his willy at them.
I've been living next door to finland for the last 2 decades. Now, with the current situation, every time i see finland in media i have a big smile on my face :)
and the Prime Minister is hot!
@@damienmaynard8892 But when she talks , it is always in commanding tones, which is rather annoying.
@@bobibalin4382 no that’s just because she’s a woman and you expect her to be a 100% angel in her speech. She’s a leader of this country, of fcking course she will speak like that.
The apartment building which I'm living in here Finland has some 1000m2 underground storage area with some 20cm thick steel doors, which happily are open since those are quite heavy to deal with. Just a wooden door have to opened to enter in. :)
I am from Finland, and there is small Bom shelter in our blocks cellar, and 1km to nearest big deep bunker xD
It would be suicide on Russia's part to have 2 wars going, especially considering the results in Ukraine, but we never thought Putin would start the first one.
Actually the Americans predicted the invasion to the day. Was reading about it in South Africa saw special forces deployed to embassies saw ukraine digging in fortifying the northern border with Belarus. I Saw it coming and believed russia would lose over s long time frame now the Russian narrative has gone from we will win in a week to we won't surrender.
They won't invade Finland because they said they will. Remember,they always lie.
Well NATO was planning and invasion of dpr and crimea so Putin pre-empted them. That's why Washington knew Russian would attack when nobody else thought so. And remember this shit show started in 2014 with the Maidan coup replacing the elected government with puppets controlled by the Empire
To assume that Pootie wouldn't be crazy enough to open a war on two fronts is crazier than he is.
@@jonathanstill8932 Putin is very rational. Go read Rand Corp (#1 Pentagon think tank) report called "extending Russia, competing on advantageous ground".. And stop watching CNN+ 😅
Seems to me that Finnish people are practical and long term thinkers. I admire that. I would like to visit someday.
People: yes though in some areas no. Government: in military sense, yes, in many other ways, moronic as heck.
I would imagine it would be very difficult for Russia to stage a land invasion just with the geography and terrain alone! Finland is known as the Land of a thousand lakes. 168,000 lakes to be precise
Well spoken young man, respect from Finland🙂🙂🙂
I am amazed by the readiness of the Finns. I know they had tragic wars with Russia but damn, they are willing to fight to death this time.
Every time
Neutrality doesn't necessarily imply passiveness, because Finland were neutral for so long, it meant no one was going to come to their aid if they were invaded, so they needed to be able to fight off any potential invaders on their own.
"this time" we would take our stolen land back before the war is over.
@@nevets2371 you nailed it
Judging by their bunkers they might be willing to fight to the death, but not their own.
Good job - my Precious Fatherland!
The Finns are NOT messing around .
This video was very interesting. I know that Switzerland has a lot of bunkers, but I did not know that about Finland.
Finlands has lots of granite grounds, so its easu to make bunkers. almost all Helsinki is "bunkered." Its full of tunnels and underground places.
@@coltr7561 I went to Finland once it’s a nice country.
As a Norwegian, I am happy to see our friends in Sweden and Finland join Nato.
H🇸🇪llo 🤗
And we are happy to join! Let us hope we never have to fight side-by-side.
Hello fellow NATO member. It's good not to be invaded by Russia, eh?
Ukrainian here, also glad for more countries to join NATO
@@warmetalpacifist they cant even get past ukraine lmao, you think we worried? all they can do is threaten nukes, and those fly both ways
If Russia can't handle Ukraine, they definitely can't handle Finland
Oh. I agree. TOTALLY.
and as we have seen, Russia really cannot handle Ukraine lol
I dunno. times change. alot of beta males now.
Firstly Russia is manhandling Ukraine very well. Secondly Ukraine is way stronger especially with all NATO supplies than Finland ever was or will be....
@@Cottam89 Drivel. Finland is not only armed to the teeth, the Finns are ready and willing to fight.
Good presentation.
In my apartment building (where I’m sat right now), the basement is submarine-style full seal steel doors. No orc is getting through those.
The 900,000 reserve army is the real deal, I'm one of the reservists: a tough US style bootcamp followed by a period of specialization, a minimum of 6 months, followed by refresher training throughout life. I could take up arms tomorrow if needed, I still remember the training very well. With a category called 'extra reserves', the last to be mobilized, and volunteers, the total wartime army potential is around a million strong. Btw, what wasn't mentioned is that Finland has more tanks than other Nordic countries combined, as well as 120+ modern fighter jets (F-18s + F-35s that were recently purchased).
It's actually disadvantageous to have that much of the population as reservists and actually engage them in combat in this day and age. Irreversible blow to the population due to war casualties. The attacker will be even more unhinged about attacking. Everyone's a target
@@fortofgoodhope4189 ok master strategist, have you seen the news in Ukraine?
@@fortofgoodhope4189 um. whatever.
@@MrSpritzmeister yes. And the blow to the population will be felt for years to come
@@fortofgoodhope4189 more like everyone is a potential combatant, and FIBUA ? good luck... it's Ukraine 2.0 or Fallujah all over again...
Finland is the country representation of the phrase: "f**k around and find out"
Nah, that's Australia but it does apply to Finland and others :)
Also its cool that you made a video including finland! We are nice most of the time
I agree with you 100% bankers are everywhere in this country, I used to live somewhere 10km from city centre, they have a place under ground very big place. They're using as a car park. Very well maintained.
Also at the hospital I work. Almost the whole area has underground two storey under, when you there you can't think I'm down there, very nice. Finnish government really knows how to make and keep things.
Respect to the people of Finland. Russia / Putin would be foolish to attack Finland. Finland knows its aggressive neighbor and has prepared for Russias next attack.
🌲🌝☘️
So attack or will not attack? Trust Russia 😐
They have been preparing for it since 1944.
Russia has attacked Finland more than 15 times during the last 600 years.
1311 Novgorod attacked Finland
1318 Novgorod military campaign to Finland
1350 Novgorod attacked Vyborg (Viipuri)
1377 Novgorod military campaign to Finland
1411 Novgorod army burned Vyborg (Viipuri)
1479 Novgorod made military campaign to Savo
1495-1497 Old Wrath (Vanha Viha)
1516 Russians attacked Finland
1555-1557 Great Russian Wrath (Suuri Venäjän sota)
1570-1595 Long Wrath (Pitkä Viha)
1655-1661 Northern War (Pohjan Sota)
1700-1721 Great Northern War aka Greater Wrath (Suuri Pohjan Sota eli Iso Viha)
1808-1809 Finland’s War (Suomen sota)
1939-1940 Winter War (Talvisota)
1941-1944 Continuation War (Jatkosota)
Unfortunately NATO was not available yet.
@@jounisuninen Russia attacked Sweden, actually. Sweden ruled Finland for about 700 years.
This time.. Finland will lose
Seeing what is happening in Ukraine combined with Finland being 75% thick forrests, its army, and heritage of motti tactics. Yeah, that is suicide.
Finland also spend billions to fortify themselves from Russia specifically.
when the snow starts speaking finnish
Finland is not alone in these preperations. Sweden has also very similar building-bunker regulations and within nearly all settlements or towns/ cities in Sweden you’re going to see triangular signs which show you where the nearest public bunker is. Would [nuclear] war break out, the building owner is obliged to unlock and direct citizens to their bunker. Every school is also required to have public bunkers. (Funny story: my father was locked in one by a bully for hours when he was in middle school.) We’ve been preparing for the worst too, you see.
But you haven’t prepared with food. In the beginning of corona lockdowns, you Swedes realised that your storages only have food for days or up to one or two weeks. We have food and other supplies for months and we even have a company for maintaining these storages. The storages also include diesel and gas, medication and other equipment.
Speaking of bunkers. I just saw in another video that Korea has some weapons that make a whole in the bunkers making them colapsing, melting, it even show the rocket hitting the top of the bunker and you see the rocket penetrating the bunkers.
The biggest argument presented in this video is: lots of bunkers. I honestly expected discussions of terrain, technology, missle defense systems, etc.
Agreed
Some tech is classified, their own people don't know all the stuff that exist in their arsenal
Finland just bought F-35 fighters and the first country USA did allow to buy the Crawler version too
Just like Norway and Switzerland... Terrain also made those countries uninvadable
You're making it to difficult. Don't ask such questions. Don't you like bunkers ? Finns do ! That's it !
Fun fact, in apartment buildings, the shelters are used as storage cellars for people who live there, divided into small “cages” or as common rooms and bike storage.
bike storage in the building I live in. And it was built in 2013.
Good info. Not sure if the conclusion is that great. But good info.
You are missing an important point: Finland is almost completely covered by forests, at least the areas were trees can grow and most of the population and infrastructure is. Finnish soldiers could move, attack and withdraw undetected. That's how they kicked Russia's ass in the Winter War.
Actually Finland lost the winter war ... just in case you forgot.
I spent a decent part of my younger days working with Finns and travelling to Helsinki frequently. I f*cking love those guys & girls.
It's not just that finland has a large military, the people are very willing to fight for their country, I think it was like 75% of then in a recent survey, one of the highest scores in europe.
Highest in europe at 74%.
Turkey is second at 73%.
It does have, Because finland has mandatory military service.
280,000 (wartime)
Reserve personnel 900,000. So yeah I'd say pretty strong.
I flew from Australia where I was born to do my national service in Finland at the age of 19. While I was there I always thought about this type of threat but it didn’t eventuate of course.I’m too old now but I was always ready to fight for Finland if it was ever needed.
Well honestly speaking, I think biggest defense Finland has, is it's people. Most Finnish are willing to defend their homes and relatives, literally to last breath if need be. War with Finland means, that matter that you win or loose depends on how much carnage you are willing to be responssible of, because most Finns, young or old will not bend that easily, infact if attrocities that happen in Ukraine now would happen here, it only would make us even more determined to keep on fighting. We take saying "What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger" quite literally
You forgot that geography and climate works in Finland's favor
It ought to be pointed out that Sweden also used to have one of the most extensive civil population defense systems in the world, during the Cold War. Only thing is we scrapped it after 1991.
A good amount of Swedish volunteers did fight for Finland in the Winter War, but otherwise it has been too long for Sweden since the last war, so the Swedes have forgotten the horrors of war. In fact, as a nation, Sweden hasn't fought a single modern war, apart from in a very limited sense, such as in Afghanistan. Whereas in Finland every graveyard that was in use during the WW2 has rows of tombstones for the fallen war heroes. They persist as a grim reminder of Finland's geopolitical location. Never forget.
Indeed it was terribly expensive while the threat was kind of on TV only.
sweden makes ballbearings! used in nearly every weapon hence why they were allowed to remain neutral, simple no ballbearings no weapons
Well that underground bunkers are mandatory for every house/building inn Switzerland as well. They have strict rules about how many should be living under the roof as those many bunkers/bunk beds have to be already built. This bunkers are part of structural design to be submitted to the municipality.
Finland: Has bunkers and a civilian defence plan
Estonia: has neither
Surprised you didn't mention the road network. It's designed to make east/west travel actually more difficult (most big roads form a V shape), the overpasses and bridges are made to be easy to collapse and block major highways, and no large roads are close to the coast (to prevent a landing that way from bypassing the impassable roads) with the exception of Helsinki and Turkku.
Speaking of naval landings.... good luck with that! The Finnish coastline is a maze of small islands and has few navigable passes to the shore. A few hundred soldiers + rockets could camp out for weeks on those islands and block any pass large enough to get transports through, or just good old sea mines.
In my Finnish middle school our arts and crafts classroom was a functional bomb shelter with like quarter meter thick walls and metal hatches on windows. This was in a little village with a population of about 200-300.
But this time... Finnish should taste Russia power.,... uraaaa
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4:33 oh that’s actually a really cool idea for a law, make it part of regulation to include a bunker in a building over a certain size.
Indeed.
There's a bunker underneath my work place that works as a gym during peace time :D
This reminds me of the video game Fallout and the vaults they used in the story. Though in the story, it's in America and the vaults were ran by non-governmental corporation, selecting those that lived or died and then subjected the inhabitants to experimentation.... How Finland got it set up is WAY better
And the most important thing is that Finnish weapons are under the ground even fighters. I have visited one very big cave near Rovaniemi, which was full of weapons and equipment. It took 2 weeks to get a permit to enter that cave, but i got it because i had to work there few days. Russian missiles cant take Finland down and its pretty impressive.
Someone naive. The USSR and America have long had no special bunkers and plans for bomb shelters for the population. For a simple reason, if there is a nuclear war, no one in the cities will survive and there is no way to save people. This is nonsense in any city during rush hour traffic jams are not crowded. How can you evacuate the city's population in 3-6 minutes? This is nonsense, those who managed to escape from the explosion in the bunker of food and water supplies there for a month at most. But the radiation there will not evaporate in a month, look at Chernobyl still founds. That is, even those who escaped in the bunker will die either from radiation or from hunger and cold.
And after going through with that security clearance, you still felt it is a good idea to talk what you saw afterwards?
@@Ruinwyn Location is secret. Rovaniemi is the biggest city in whole Europe by surface area(7500km2). Good luck for the search! :D
Why would Russia do so ? To achieve what ?
@@mr.tusetsky7737 A Russkie asking for a logic? Besides: revenge for WW2, get Finland back to its "rightful owners", the notable resources of Western well-fare state, a huge advantage point strategic-wise...
TLDR: Neutral countries tend to have very efficient preparations from foreign invasion since they need to be self-reliant due to not being militarily aligned.
Switzerland is the world's most fortified fortress for this reason.
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Switzerland also has nature working for them. Much of the border is made up of high mountain ranges and narrow passes that you can make massive fortifications at.
I would guess that at the least Helsinki is on par with what you got. As an individual point.
When I was conscript we had Swiss General visiting our Garrison and our company lieutenant came asking if anybody wanted to come see a presentation about Swiss armed forces during our free time before bed. Switzerland had really impressive defense forces, preparation and readiness from what I saw. I think our governments have done a lot of cooperation or copying when designing fortifications in both countries. We got to keep left over doughnuts and coffee after the General interviewed us about our time in service. It's really cool how Swiss get to keep military gear with you and you have so many refresher courses after moving to reserves.
@@ex1tium I thought only cops get paid in doughnuts.
One other important aspect is the unique geology of Finland. Whilst russia certainly has some military equipment that can operate in Finland. Finish military has a big homeadvantage with Norwegian tanks able to operate in the climate and an army set up to beat a larger foe with guerilla tactics in the vast finish forests.
The spirit of Simo Hayha is still stong in Finland long may it remain so.