"pac-man arrangement run through google translate" is literally the most accurate way to describe arrangement 2005. it's not even bad it's just weird as hell and i don't understand it's existence. it feels like an entirely different game from arrangement arcade so why they share the name is honestly beyond me. the graphics and visuals feel so dull. the sound design is also extremely lifeless (any sound effect that isnt ripped from the original pac-man sounds like they downloaded it from a free stock sound effects website.) though i will say, i never knew abt the existence of arrangement plus, and the added references to other namco games r actually quite cool.
This is definitely my favorite Pac-Man game, was ecstatic to know this review was coming. It does make me very curious about the several other "Arrangement" titles that never left Japan though. I know that Galaga and Dig-Dug Arrangement are in the 2002 Namco Museum as well, but that leaves Xevious, Rally-X, and Mappy Arrangement. I'd like to give those a shot someday. I wonder if they're as great as Pac-Man Arrangement.
I finished watching this video, and I gotta say two things about it. 1. You were right about the newer style being a step up from the previous. I also love the line "Jack-Pac", I will wear that phrase to death. 2. I'm surprised it has so little recognition. I never expected this to be as underrated as it is.
21:44 "That brings us to Kinky. True to his name, he combines with the other ghosts" *bruh.* Great game though, this and Galaga Arrangement were clearly Namco's magnum opus for their arcade titles, which isn't too surprising since the only other notable arcade game they made in a classic style to my recollection is Mr. Driller. Pretty much everything else after that is stuff made to capitalize on gimmicks as their main selling point like that 4 player Pac-Man Battle Royale or partnerships with stuff like the Mario Kart Arcade GP series. I have no idea why they decided to make Arrangement versions of some games to begin with, but i'm definitely not complaining...
This was a really great series to watch, I hope you eventually cover the Championship Edition games as well! I'd love to see a version versus for Championship Edition and the Championship Edition Famicom version.
@@ahbeef I also have to say that both Vol.1 and Vol.2 has VS mode being up to 4 players while co-op (2 players) is only on Vol.1, not that both versions have only co-op with one of them having a higher limit, in fact Vol. 2 only has VS mode making Vol. 1 superior. I came back to rewatch the 4 player footage for a mini sprite sheet I'm doing and noticed you said this.
They BOTH are cool! They will be the inspiration for the next modernization of the original Pac-Man arcade game. What’s it called you may ask? It’s called… PAC-MAN JADARRANGEMENT
quick question, thoughts on the pacman bros? (fangame made for sage that's really good) also kinky is such a good mechanic for this game, she should appear in another game
@@ahbeef it's really good! there's a review of it made by faux fox if you're that interested also kinky (better known as kinzo) never had a confirmed gender so everybody just calls her whatever (usually they/them), she's referred to as "it" in the pacman website history section
i love this game but the powerups are a mixed bag the red ones great the pink ones good the blue ones fine but it always gets me killed trying to collect anything using the mirror pac and i always end up eating 2 power pellets at once wasting both of them and the orange one is kinda crap at best its just a worst version of the red one with it only working situationally while the other 3 are always useful in some way also i wish world 0 and world 1 swapped themes it just makes more sense these are the only problems i have with pac man arrangement its a great game
Love them both, the Gamecube version is pretty fuzzy but that's to be expected, and the PSP version off Pacman Museum is too small, but can be fixed with the appropriate TV screen stretch.
i'll get back to them eventually, but i've got a few more reviews in the works before that. definitely will get back to it before the end of this year though!
@@ahbeef great I read on the pacman wiki that theres a pc version of pacman world 1 that only released In Korea and might be a bootleg, i cant find anything on it anywhere else
@@tivvy2vs21 i vaguely remember looking into this before, and from what i found it's actually just running a PS1 emulator on pc. without any footage or dump of the game though, i can't say for certain.
Oh wow I need to play Arrangement that game looks incredible, would you say that the Museum Plus has a fine port of it (Mame kinda intimidates me)? Also wow that PSP version is werid. I definitely agree with your analogy you said in the comments that it's more of a reimagining of the game like FF7 Remake, though calling it a sequel might not be a bad idea either.
museum+ is a perfectly fine way to play arcade arrangement! there's also a port on the ps2/gamecube/xbox namco museum and i emulated the gamecube version with numen playing over parsec for the multiplayer footage since i usually have trouble getting multiplayer to work in museum+ on PC. works fine on console though, i played through it in multiplayer on museum+ on switch at a friend's house just last week
@@ahbeef. I actually think both games are different games because of their designs, being completely different. Ex: the ghost designs, and they removed kinzo as well. And arrangement 2005 looks like those bland pac-man games like pac-man geo. Basically, it should have been called something like pac-man remix instead of arrangment.
the gba port is essentially just the arcade game with a smaller resolution, worse music, and no multiplayer. despite the downgrades it’s still more than playable and i’ve enjoyed my fair share of runs on the gba version. i didn’t feel it necessary to include it in the comparison since it would distract from the main point of the video, comparing the arcade game and the psp game, and there’s not really much to say about the gba port anyway, i could sum it up in one or two sentences
Some day, you should do reviews of the other Arrangement games like doing comparisons of Galaga and Dig Dug's Arrangements and their Arcade vs their PSP versions.
maybe someday, but probably not for a while. even the original arrangements of those other games don't really do a whole lot for me (and the psp versions even moreso)
this has nothing to do with anything in the videos at all but why do you think the arrangement port to namco museum had that border on the sides with the namco classics logo tiled across it? outside of xevious arrangement in that one psx xevious, no other arrangement title had made it home till that time
@@ahbeef I never played the PSP 4 player mode. Will it work on a ROM okay? Does any of namco pack have 0f any system the PSP 4 player mode or do I have to get the PSP version?
Those japanese mobile games might resurface again. I have seen those jp phone megaman games been made playable again so there is hope we'll see those mobile pacman games again.
i do address this towards the end of the video, but ultimately it was namco's decision to give them the same name. i see Arrangement 05 as a sort of reimagining of the arcade game, which i think is fair enough grounds for comparison, the same way FF7 Remake is a fair comparison to the PS1 game despite how hugely different they are mechanically
This collab was really fun to do, thanks for having me on man!! Looking forward to watching this later today!
thanks for joining buddy!
@@ahbeef 27:19: Not like it’s a problem to me, because it’s more fitting for the respective characters than it’s original intention anyway.
I'm honestly surprised you stuck with doing a version versus and didn't split these two reviews up. The True Arrangement stays winning
"pac-man arrangement run through google translate" is literally the most accurate way to describe arrangement 2005. it's not even bad it's just weird as hell and i don't understand it's existence.
it feels like an entirely different game from arrangement arcade so why they share the name is honestly beyond me. the graphics and visuals feel so dull. the sound design is also extremely lifeless (any sound effect that isnt ripped from the original pac-man sounds like they downloaded it from a free stock sound effects website.)
though i will say, i never knew abt the existence of arrangement plus, and the added references to other namco games r actually quite cool.
8:13 The mushroom debuted in Super Pac-man
This is definitely my favorite Pac-Man game, was ecstatic to know this review was coming. It does make me very curious about the several other "Arrangement" titles that never left Japan though. I know that Galaga and Dig-Dug Arrangement are in the 2002 Namco Museum as well, but that leaves Xevious, Rally-X, and Mappy Arrangement. I'd like to give those a shot someday. I wonder if they're as great as Pac-Man Arrangement.
Xevious Arrangement was in the PS1 Xevious 3D/G+
the namco classic collection vol 2 did release in the west though
I finished watching this video, and I gotta say two things about it.
1. You were right about the newer style being a step up from the previous. I also love the line "Jack-Pac", I will wear that phrase to death.
2. I'm surprised it has so little recognition. I never expected this to be as underrated as it is.
21:44 "That brings us to Kinky. True to his name, he combines with the other ghosts" *bruh.*
Great game though, this and Galaga Arrangement were clearly Namco's magnum opus for their arcade titles, which isn't too surprising since the only other notable arcade game they made in a classic style to my recollection is Mr. Driller. Pretty much everything else after that is stuff made to capitalize on gimmicks as their main selling point like that 4 player Pac-Man Battle Royale or partnerships with stuff like the Mario Kart Arcade GP series. I have no idea why they decided to make Arrangement versions of some games to begin with, but i'm definitely not complaining...
23:59 - After hearing the phrase "Jack-Pac", I have the urge to use it in as many sentences as I can.
This was a really great series to watch, I hope you eventually cover the Championship Edition games as well! I'd love to see a version versus for Championship Edition and the Championship Edition Famicom version.
i will eventually, but it’ll be a while since i’m covering the games in chronological order
My man covering Arrangement titles. No one ever remembers these titles!! I don’t know why!!
The golden pill doesn't just give 100 pts, it also doesn't let Kinky show up again from what I've played.
good to know! i thought it was just a troll lol
@@ahbeef I also have to say that both Vol.1 and Vol.2 has VS mode being up to 4 players while co-op (2 players) is only on Vol.1, not that both versions have only co-op with one of them having a higher limit, in fact Vol. 2 only has VS mode making Vol. 1 superior. I came back to rewatch the 4 player footage for a mini sprite sheet I'm doing and noticed you said this.
Not calling the remake Pac-Man Rearrangement is the biggest missed opportunity in gaming.
Arrangement arcade version is easily my favorite Pac-Man game ever.
21:47 Heh, not even bothering to be subtle with the yellow ghost's ability and his name, huh?
i think the magic wand is supposed to be a shaylaylee, though i ain't too versed. might be some other sort o' specific stick
They BOTH are cool! They will be the inspiration for the next modernization of the original Pac-Man arcade game. What’s it called you may ask?
It’s called…
PAC-MAN JADARRANGEMENT
quick question, thoughts on the pacman bros? (fangame made for sage that's really good)
also kinky is such a good mechanic for this game, she should appear in another game
never heard of it! i’ll have to look into it some time soon. also, is kinky canonically a girl? i always thought they were a boy
@@ahbeef it's really good! there's a review of it made by faux fox if you're that interested
also kinky (better known as kinzo) never had a confirmed gender so everybody just calls her whatever (usually they/them), she's referred to as "it" in the pacman website history section
this my multiverse of madness
i love this game but the powerups are a mixed bag the red ones great the pink ones good the blue ones fine but it always gets me killed trying to collect anything using the mirror pac and i always end up eating 2 power pellets at once wasting both of them and the orange one is kinda crap at best its just a worst version of the red one with it only working situationally while the other 3 are always useful in some way also i wish world 0 and world 1 swapped themes it just makes more sense these are the only problems i have with pac man arrangement its a great game
unpopular opinion: i like the remake better, had more fun with it
Love them both, the Gamecube version is pretty fuzzy but that's to be expected, and the PSP version off Pacman Museum is too small, but can be fixed with the appropriate TV screen stretch.
Hey, are you gonna do the other pacman games anytime soon? Have had them on my mind recently
i'll get back to them eventually, but i've got a few more reviews in the works before that. definitely will get back to it before the end of this year though!
@@ahbeef great
I read on the pacman wiki that theres a pc version of pacman world 1 that only released In Korea and might be a bootleg, i cant find anything on it anywhere else
@@tivvy2vs21 i vaguely remember looking into this before, and from what i found it's actually just running a PS1 emulator on pc. without any footage or dump of the game though, i can't say for certain.
@@ahbeef so basically bleem!? huh, well i checked the internet archive and it wasnt on there, so i doubt it even exists
@@tivvy2vs21 yeah im doubtful too lol
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Oh wow I need to play Arrangement that game looks incredible, would you say that the Museum Plus has a fine port of it (Mame kinda intimidates me)? Also wow that PSP version is werid. I definitely agree with your analogy you said in the comments that it's more of a reimagining of the game like FF7 Remake, though calling it a sequel might not be a bad idea either.
museum+ is a perfectly fine way to play arcade arrangement! there's also a port on the ps2/gamecube/xbox namco museum and i emulated the gamecube version with numen playing over parsec for the multiplayer footage since i usually have trouble getting multiplayer to work in museum+ on PC. works fine on console though, i played through it in multiplayer on museum+ on switch at a friend's house just last week
man i've never seen a curb stomp like this since the Omniman vs. Homelander death battle
Version VS but it's 2 different games with the same names
different games of the same name qualify for the segment! just like Pac-Man World 2 on consoles vs GBA
@@ahbeef. I actually think both games are different games because of their designs, being completely different. Ex: the ghost designs, and they removed kinzo as well. And arrangement 2005 looks like those bland pac-man games like pac-man geo. Basically, it should have been called something like pac-man remix instead of arrangment.
What about the GBA port?
the gba port is essentially just the arcade game with a smaller resolution, worse music, and no multiplayer. despite the downgrades it’s still more than playable and i’ve enjoyed my fair share of runs on the gba version. i didn’t feel it necessary to include it in the comparison since it would distract from the main point of the video, comparing the arcade game and the psp game, and there’s not really much to say about the gba port anyway, i could sum it up in one or two sentences
Some day, you should do reviews of the other Arrangement games like doing comparisons of Galaga and Dig Dug's Arrangements and their Arcade vs their PSP versions.
maybe someday, but probably not for a while. even the original arrangements of those other games don't really do a whole lot for me (and the psp versions even moreso)
Say what you will about the PSP game , but the pellet eating sound effect is so good
this has nothing to do with anything in the videos at all but why do you think the arrangement port to namco museum had that border on the sides with the namco classics logo tiled across it? outside of xevious arrangement in that one psx xevious, no other arrangement title had made it home till that time
How do I play this game again? Is there somewhere I can download and play?
both are playable in Pac-Man Museum+, which is available on all current systems
Does pac man museum+ arrangement cs have the 4 player mode like the psp version?
no, unfortunately not
Thanks for the reply. I was going to get it if it had it
@@ahbeef I never played the PSP 4 player mode. Will it work on a ROM okay? Does any of namco pack have 0f any system the PSP 4 player mode or do I have to get the PSP version?
TH-cam didn't tell me again, godammit
Those japanese mobile games might resurface again. I have seen those jp phone megaman games been made playable again so there is hope we'll see those mobile pacman games again.
i can only hope
One ghost name "Kinky" O-o
People who say PSP Arrangement is better than Arcade are objectively wrong.
i would agree with you, but i dont think ive ever seen someone say that they prefer the PSP version lol
this video feels kinda unfair
i mean theyre not really meant to be compared
theyre completely different games which just happen to have the same title
how are they not meant to be compared when they literally share the same name?
i do address this towards the end of the video, but ultimately it was namco's decision to give them the same name. i see Arrangement 05 as a sort of reimagining of the arcade game, which i think is fair enough grounds for comparison, the same way FF7 Remake is a fair comparison to the PS1 game despite how hugely different they are mechanically