Why "The Augments" is my favorite Enterpise Story

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ม.ค. 2024
  • Today in something of a new type of video. I Talk about my favorite 3 part Arc from enterprises 4th Season. "Borderland", "Cold Station 12", and "The Augments". Breaking down how the plot and story work to create an engrossing Narrative. And How Brent Spiners Return To Trek as the Villian Arik Soong is not only a fun bit of fan-service but an excellent performance in its own right.
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  • @wanderingstar9955
    @wanderingstar9955 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Enterprise never got the love it deserved. When they stuck to the ideas of exploration, with single episode stories, they often got the formula right.

    • @merafirewing6591
      @merafirewing6591 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Still a nice show that is unique in it's own way.

  • @crownprincesebastianjohano7069
    @crownprincesebastianjohano7069 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    I really liked the Augment arc. It is a proper way to echo Khan's story without relying so overtly on the similar battles. I think Spiner did a great job with the character and articulating why even the Augments deserved liberty... and why, ultimately, it never seems to work well. Also, it really demonstrates what an actually augmented human being would be capable of physically. It wouldn't just confer superhuman strength but almost turns them into Jedi-like in terms of agility and speed.

    • @Nostripe361
      @Nostripe361 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It was really cool watching humans manhandle Klingons in this episode.
      I will admit that something I always wondered was if the issue with augments was that they tried to do to much to fast. Making them so far removed from normal humans helped inspire their... attitude issues.
      I wonder if the augments could have been better done if they had done the augmentations in small amounts over a long time. Like rather than making them super human you only gave them a slight, barely noticeable increase in power. Then wait for that increase to filter through all of humanity before doing the next increase.

    • @crownprincesebastianjohano7069
      @crownprincesebastianjohano7069 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Nostripe361 100%. They should have rescued Soong and then hide for a few years until the heat was off them. Instead, they tried to have their cake and eat it too.

  • @Canoby
    @Canoby 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    I feel like Brent Spiner is one of the few Trek regular actors as capable of hamming it up as Bill Shatner. I also really love the Augment arc, it was a fun bunch of stories and added quite a bit to the lore too.

    • @joe9739
      @joe9739 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Avery Brooks can add some Ham & Cheese😅😅

    • @Canoby
      @Canoby 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@joe9739 I tend to consider Brooks a more “serious” actor, but he can certainly steer into scenery chewing when the script calls for it too

  • @ThreeFoldPath
    @ThreeFoldPath 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    The thing I liked about Enterprise Season 4 is how it had different arcs that felt like they represented the species they were about. You had the Romulan arc which was very cloak and dagger, the Vulcan arc that was quite slow and thought provoking and you had the Klingon/Augment arc that was fast paced and action packed. Perhaps most importantly humanity really took a back seat in Season 4 and let the other races really shine which made it much more interesting to me.

    • @merafirewing6591
      @merafirewing6591 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There's also that lone Orion episode.

  • @ashleycross7593
    @ashleycross7593 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    *sees discovery*
    *Sees enterprise* "perhaps I treated you too harshly"

    • @merafirewing6591
      @merafirewing6591 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah, that show got undeserved criticism.

  • @aaronswinger7026
    @aaronswinger7026 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    "The Augments" is my second favorite Enterprise episode after "In a Mirror, Darkly".

    • @venomgeekmedia9886
      @venomgeekmedia9886  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      now that is unashamed fanservice

    • @aaronswinger7026
      @aaronswinger7026 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@venomgeekmedia9886 I'd love it if you could do a review of "In a Mirror, Darkly".

    • @paulrasmussen8953
      @paulrasmussen8953 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@venomgeekmedia9886 nut proves disco wrong that the connie needed and update

    • @merafirewing6591
      @merafirewing6591 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@paulrasmussen8953 like as clunky as a Connie looks in ENT, it fit in perfectly despite being from an entirely different series.

  • @Amoschp524
    @Amoschp524 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I liked this arc for the reasons you listed and because of how they used parts of it later to explain the TOS Kilingons smooth foreheads.

  • @occultatumquaestio5226
    @occultatumquaestio5226 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    It is a decent story arc. A lot of neat callbacks. While I find the exploration of augments themselves somewhat half-baked, 22nd century Soong himself was an intriguing character to watch. It was nice as well to see some the developments that would later lead to the inspiration for the Soong-type androids of Data, Lore, and B4.
    (And with the Soong clones from PIC, I half-expect a Soong Clone-Droid Wars storyline).

  • @christopher5723
    @christopher5723 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I agree, this story was probably my favorite story arc from Enterprise. Normally not a fan of cameos but this worked.

  • @JeanLucCaptain
    @JeanLucCaptain 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s a very cool way of answering a question nobody really asked in the most nerdy way possible.

  • @rickm9244
    @rickm9244 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I never thought Enterpise was a bad show. I loved the casting and loved Scott Bakula from Quantum Leap. Maybe I was at the right age not to see the cringy parts of the show as bad. Also for me Dear Doctor is up there with the best episodes of Star Trek. There is a lot to love about Enterpise and show cut too short as it was finding its feet. Star Trek fans were way to critical of the show.

    • @comentedonakeyboard
      @comentedonakeyboard 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sadly Enterprise never got the Chance of a fifth season.

    • @merafirewing6591
      @merafirewing6591 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@comentedonakeyboard and it was about to get good with the hint of the Romulans stirring up trouble.

    • @themoviereviewwarriors939
      @themoviereviewwarriors939 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I don't blame the fans. The first season was beyond weak and season 2 was not much better. To be honest I don't even think they should have done a prequel show unless your were going to make it like Babylon 5 or something. They should have just set another show after voyager and spent more time on the scripts and characters.

  • @Hazmatt4700
    @Hazmatt4700 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This arc is great way to write in that history doesn't repeat, but it does rhyme.

  • @carterh8431
    @carterh8431 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is a nice type of video, never understood people’s aversion to this cool arc.

  • @gitss7367
    @gitss7367 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Enterprise was great. The mirror universe arc and the augments are my favorites.

  • @SynchronicityScenario144
    @SynchronicityScenario144 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Paul Winfield in true Tamarian fashion is like "Terminator with gun at night in the station killing." 3:38

  • @jamesi8594
    @jamesi8594 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’ve always liked that story arc. The atmosphere, the pacing, the story…it was just really well done. And they managed to make bringing Spiner back not only cool but also believable. That’s good writing.

  • @andrewblanchard2398
    @andrewblanchard2398 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    ENTERPRISE
    did the
    SOONG FAMILY
    the right way

  • @themoviereviewwarriors939
    @themoviereviewwarriors939 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I need to watch these episodes again.

  • @merafirewing6591
    @merafirewing6591 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That little arc had me at the edge on my seat. Also it's a nice tie-in to Soong's ambition to make cybernetic lifeforms which eventually cumulated into the form of Data in TNG.

  • @Khan-hb2bb
    @Khan-hb2bb 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    "The Mirror Darkly" episodes from Enterprise is good, do a video on that!

  • @y_knot_tri
    @y_knot_tri 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I liked that they explain the Klingon head ridges.

  • @IAmTheAce5
    @IAmTheAce5 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I find it odd that the Augments are always considered more 'intelligent' when, at no point, do they show the kind of guile that would get them out of trouble and avoid costs such as wounded and dead crewmates.

    • @Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent
      @Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sure they might be more intelligent than baseline humans, unfortunately for them ego and pride along with a superiority complex seems to be buffed up with them as well meaning they can be prone to rash even bad decisions.

  • @Ryan-dg3qp
    @Ryan-dg3qp 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Agreed. Best arc of the series

  • @stevenewman1393
    @stevenewman1393 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done and executed and very informatively explained in every detail way shape and form provided on this format and subject matter on the Augments episodes of Enterprise , And I to find this as one of my favorite 3 part episodes as well Sir!,👌.

  • @kensmith2285
    @kensmith2285 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The augment Arc was awesome

  • @paulrasmussen8953
    @paulrasmussen8953 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like that Soong had a point.

  • @dannileigh6426
    @dannileigh6426 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've never really watched or gotten into Enterprise, but I must say this has made me want to check out these episodes at least. Thanks!

  • @JohnSmith77777fs
    @JohnSmith77777fs 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I loved this episode series and it's just a great episode of a what if. We have one of the best episodes of the entire series, it's funny and series and it has all the touches of past Star Trek stuff but it feels new and original at the same time.

  • @Justrememberitssupposetosuck
    @Justrememberitssupposetosuck 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was one of my favorites as well. Appreciate it brother, do another one 🤟

  • @Analog_Mind47
    @Analog_Mind47 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's tough challenge, but The Mirror Universe 2 parter is my favorite Season 4 arc

  • @terranadmiral6758
    @terranadmiral6758 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video as always I also really liked the augment story line of enterprise my favorite thing about it is the fact that we got to see early Klingon ships and the augment story that led to in a few episodes later what caused the Klingons to not have cranial ridges in the 23rd century. But when I first watched Star Trek enterprise I didn’t like the first few episodes but once I watched all 4 seasons it is now in my top 5 favorite Star Trek series.

  • @shanenolan5625
    @shanenolan5625 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cheers

  • @ThetaBand
    @ThetaBand 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video on a great story line.

  • @Inignot12
    @Inignot12 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Definitely more of these candid and interesting videos! Really enjoyed the new style.

  • @frankowalker4662
    @frankowalker4662 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would like to see more of this type of video. 👍
    While not my favorite part of Enterprise, I did enjoy the story arc and I agree with your views on it.

  • @darrenrenna
    @darrenrenna 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loved those episodes......the Augments is a theme that Star Trek spends comparatively little time of, but had a big impact on the lore.

  • @andrewblanchard2398
    @andrewblanchard2398 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    KURTZMAN DREK
    did the
    SOONG FAMILY
    dirty

  • @marckrieger3277
    @marckrieger3277 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    A call back to wrath of kahn, the bad guys have a bird of prey, brent spinner returning what is there not to like? I also consider it the best part of season 4 actually the best part of enterprise as a hole.

  • @Dan__S
    @Dan__S 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I liked this arc, too, and I feel like between this, the Vulcan arc, and the mirror universe arc, Enterprise really felt like it was producing some interesting stories. Had the xindi arc been reworked into something shorter, I wonder if it would have been given another season.

  • @vortega472
    @vortega472 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My favorite line is at the end: cybernetics - artificial lifeforms.

    • @merafirewing6591
      @merafirewing6591 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It really does foreshadow his ambition that will cumulate into the form that is Data in The Next Generation.

  • @Relav1364
    @Relav1364 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The key to a good story is growth and momentum. Things have to happen and characters need to change and grow. And the Augment Trilogy does that in spades. I fully agree here.
    PS moar rants pls

  • @wedgeantillies66
    @wedgeantillies66 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It was one of four really great series arc three or too parters episodes that cropped up in series 4. Though did me my favourite arc of that series was in a mirror darkly, as the cast got to play the darker sides of their characters and really cut loose while doing so. Plus it showcased the fate of the uss defiant from TOS and how crucial the borgs attempt to interfere in earth history was when it came separated prime and mirror universes.

    • @merafirewing6591
      @merafirewing6591 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Or how the Borg can still be very annoying.

    • @wedgeantillies66
      @wedgeantillies66 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@merafirewing6591 Doubt the borg would appreciate the irony.
      Plus Its a paradox loop in attempting to destroy their greatest enemy at birth, they ensure its birth due to the enterprise e crew actions in stopping them in the past. Then the call sent out by the remnants of said sphere before destruction in that enterprise episode, sets up the initial invasion itself 200 years klater.

  • @dc-4ever201
    @dc-4ever201 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yes the Augments storyline really tied up how we ended up with human looking Klingons with Fu Manchu moustaches. I thought it was really well done.

  • @nathanielmeade5731
    @nathanielmeade5731 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The augments is great

  • @stanislavkostarnov2157
    @stanislavkostarnov2157 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    really quite like the format here!!!
    whilst I agree and disagree, I would love more of your viewpoints on different episodes, arcs...

  • @erikberglund347
    @erikberglund347 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I grew up with Enterprise so I have always had a soft spot for it. My favourite arc might just be the Demons/Terra Prime. It served as the series finale (the last episode doesn’t exist) and is maybe more relevant now than ever

    • @venomgeekmedia9886
      @venomgeekmedia9886  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yep and im glad they got Robocop back for STID as well.

  • @NCC-72545A
    @NCC-72545A 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I enjoyed your explanation. My favorite Star Trek Enterprise season 4 arcs. It goes, the beginning of the Federation arc, the Volcano arc, the Augment arc, the Augment virus 2 parter, the Mirror Universe 2 parter, the Temple war 2 parter.
    My favorite individual episodes from Enterprise Season 4 Home, Bound, and These are the Voyages.
    (I don't care what everyone else says about These are the Voyages. I think the show did a good job with the time they were given to end the show
    And I'm glad the books explain that episode's hollow program was the section 31 cover up so that tucker could do his job during the Romulan War.
    And aloud him and Ta'pal to live happily ever after.)
    I would like to know your thoughts on Star Trek Enterprise S02E23 "Regeneration."

    • @merafirewing6591
      @merafirewing6591 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Regeneration is the kind of fanservice no one wanted but it does make some sense that Borg wreckage would be discovered and that it foreshadows what's to come well into the 24th century.

  • @Armin-sohail84
    @Armin-sohail84 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Happy Nwe Yaer

  • @MadcapMachinations
    @MadcapMachinations 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like this content. Kind of like a recommendation of what to watch.
    Also makes me want to revisit it due to the fact that it always seemed dumb to answer the question of TOS Klingons but a good story is a good story

  • @rmcdudmk212
    @rmcdudmk212 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I actually liked the Augment stories for Enterprise. I didn't realize people disliked it 😮

    • @venomgeekmedia9886
      @venomgeekmedia9886  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      don't think its disliked but not as well liked as the other two

  • @45580677
    @45580677 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wonder ever thought a what if General Chang was in the Dominion War

  • @trapperjohn6089
    @trapperjohn6089 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was telling my son that that’s what makes Indiana Jones good. It’s one long, Chase.

  • @invictus2578
    @invictus2578 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It’s like Daenerys and her dragons

  • @themoviereviewwarriors939
    @themoviereviewwarriors939 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I live both Terminatfilms,but honestly I also prefer the first film as well.

  • @cyranoBergeracX
    @cyranoBergeracX 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brent Spiner in discovery?
    Yes, he was in many other Star Trek series, but discovery?

  • @cajeeofkitagawa4361
    @cajeeofkitagawa4361 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I enjoyed the unscripted ramble. Do more ayyy

  • @farshnuke
    @farshnuke 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Augments is daft but it's important because season 3 was very heavy, particularly towards the end so it helps to have this daft story with Brent Spiner to let the crew and the show relax a little. At the same time I don't think any other Captain could do this story. This is the ship that won the Xindi War but this is still the Captain that had to chainsaw a tree shirtless because his dog peed somewhere he shouldn't.
    Sisko and Janeway could be badass and silly but only Archer can be cold as ice and genuinely calculating as he deals with the augments while still being a dumbass that can get fooled by Brent Spiner.

  • @comentedonakeyboard
    @comentedonakeyboard 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Borderlands also reintroduced the Orion Slave Girls. Not that any Trekker ever watched any Episode because of them. We absolutely, totaly, honestly, unironically evolved above such base motivations.🤫

    • @merafirewing6591
      @merafirewing6591 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Watch out for those pheromones.

    • @comentedonakeyboard
      @comentedonakeyboard 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@merafirewing6591 you mean the ones that make men lust driven idiots
      wont work on me
      im allready male

  • @_BLACKSTAR_
    @_BLACKSTAR_ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No way.
    The mirror universe episodes where they steal a Constitution Class from the Tholians and everyone is fukn and fightin and backstabbing each other left right and center.🤣🤣
    Augments are definitely a good story arc.Come to think of it, those episodes too featured alot of fukn and fightin and backstabbing also!!!

  • @Kyoummi
    @Kyoummi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i still think augmentation shouldn't be illegal in earths laws Julian bashir from ds9 is a prime example

  • @davidreeves4556
    @davidreeves4556 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Imagine changing 12 babies diapers on your own all the time?

  • @krim7
    @krim7 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like all of the Season 4 stories, except the Nazi one (I just wanted to be done with the Xindi & the temporal cold war).

  • @stangundam01
    @stangundam01 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I liked all the arcs of the 4 season with mirror arc being more of a ??? compared to the others as they all showed what the show could do if only they got more seasons to tell more of them

  • @miamijules2149
    @miamijules2149 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Augments was excellent….

  • @jakethomson531
    @jakethomson531 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Umm good idea 💡 Umm good

  • @stanislavkostarnov2157
    @stanislavkostarnov2157 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    do love the arc, but to me it ended too perfectly.... I did not feel like his character at that point yet deserved his transformation into the scientist Arik Soong he became, whilst beautiful, there was a step missing
    would quite like your "Vulcan arc as a race" perspective... I do feel that is a very interesting one if you take all of the shows.

  • @pixelforge4858
    @pixelforge4858 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i enjoyed the video but i was very annoyed in these episodes when they did more stories with eugenics characters.

  • @LightOfZeon
    @LightOfZeon 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love these episodes, but I hate that they explained the Klingon visual differences.

    • @venomgeekmedia9886
      @venomgeekmedia9886  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I feel like they did it in a way you could take or leave.

  • @philly83
    @philly83 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Umm

  • @philiptai233
    @philiptai233 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ummm... Ah.... I'm the first!

  • @Interns-Eternal-Empire
    @Interns-Eternal-Empire 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    from how you descibed him soong you make me think he is an Englishmen

    • @venomgeekmedia9886
      @venomgeekmedia9886  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol in what way?

    • @Interns-Eternal-Empire
      @Interns-Eternal-Empire 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@venomgeekmedia9886 sarcastic we english are very sarcastic its one of the most English things an Englishman can be

  • @davidreeves4556
    @davidreeves4556 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I thought it was cringe at the time, the ending were he talks about robotics, just had to be on the nose. Would have been stronger without that, people would have speculated on possible connections for years.

  • @ycplum7062
    @ycplum7062 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I liked Spiner, but the acting of the Augments lets me down. They seem too emo. It is always interesting when the smartest person in the room realizes he isn't smart enoughand he is doomed to failure. lol
    My favorite arc is the Mirror Universe. "This is EMPRESS Hoshi." ROFL

    • @merafirewing6591
      @merafirewing6591 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I sometimes find myself rooting for Soval and T'Pol destroying the Defiant.

  • @ansonellis443
    @ansonellis443 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I liked the video but it's not what I'm looking for with this channel

  • @jaklinhyde
    @jaklinhyde 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mann tv sure has gotten complicated, ppl analyze and over analyze and criticize and complain about everything now and want more and more and then in the end still don’t like it 😂😂