This story’s been told many times. I thought of telling my story many times. Brett stay in Pattaya made it easier to tell. If you’ve encountered a similar story please reply with “Yes”
@@A_Sen_0 No alimony or maintenance. We hired 1 lawyer, we both agreed on a settlement that she would pay me for certain assets due the source of the purchase came from USA funds. Otherwise, we both apppeared at Banglamung court. Signed waiver to each other. Signed the decree. I think the fee was around 2K baht. Then we were divorced. I received an English translation approximately 11 days later. Hope this helps.
There is no need to buy them out from the bar, this is a scam to get money from you. The more tattoos, the longer they work in the environment. Just use common sense.
You're both right to certain degree. The problem exist if the girl is scene with the same customer. Greed is everywhere. I have seen a guy take a longneck to the back of the head and not get up for the same scenario.
Correct. The bar owners smell opportunity and are crafty as f**k. Bar girls are brilliant, hot and fun but you have treat it as a game. If you gamble you play with money you can afford to lose & that should be how someone dates a bar girl. Give the impression that you're going along with stuff but never go over budget and be prepared to walk.
Tom, my personal opinion is that this is your most valuable and informative production! Your honesty about your personal story was impressive. If the newbies listen they'd avoid a lot of self-inflicted pain. Well done! (OK, I'm off to see my girl on soi 8 who's not like that) 555
I think it’s gonna come down to greed between owners and managers. Unless there’s an actual demand for the individual bar to remain open extended hours
This even happened twice to an acquaintance of mine. He financed a house for different women twice in a row and was then thrown out. Then he should promise me that he wouldn't spend money on it again, he told me he can very well promise me that, because he doesn't have any money anymore. But my pity is limited
Thanks for the honesty and telling your story as I have unfortunately heard it too often but not from someone first hand. It’s amazing to me how the girls still follow the same playbook over all these years. There has to be some new twists to their “plan” and maybe you can find some of those and share them as well. I hope to run into you as well when I’m in Pattaya. It’s great that you are so welcoming to your subscribers.
I’m working on a new video right now, but does suggest a possible turn in the plan. More to come then though. Thank you for the comment and I definitely look forward to meeting you as well.
Great video. Thanks for sharing your experience Tom. The best part about your experience is that you had it and you still have a positive attitude about Thailand. That’s strength 💪🏼 my friend. Keep on trucking. 👍🏼😀💪🏼 Dave
Tom - took a lot to bring that up publicly. Hopefully it will help someone . Great info and keep the good work .. Maybe see ya this January. Be well ..
Thank you so much. I thought about my story many times before, whether I was going to publish it or not this just seem like the perfect time with my friend Brett.
@@MargaritasinParadise agree 100%, that's why I take advice from you and other retire in thailand, eventhough my trip in 18DEC will be my 11th time, and I always learn something new
They don't need to be bar-girls. Even the ones with straight jobs need money. They ALL need money because they are paid so little. Regardless of the job-category, if you play, you pay. I dated women exclusively with straight jobs, including one with a college education, all except one needed monetary help. I should have married the exception, but she ran off with a THAI man. (what a joke). Most women here are going to need some kind of monetary help. Deal with it. Stay away from the bar-girls.
I lived there for 10 years and I don't think 9/10 guys are mentally capable of handling it and more than 9/10 haven't got enough money. They are simply running away from the craphole of a live they had somewhere else.
I think you’re right for some. I had a great life prior to moving here, but always was that wander. at one point I visited Thailand and just fell in love with it and knew that I would be back
Hey Tom...new Sub from Arkansas and just moved to Pattaya! Wow...when I first saw your video I thought it was John Madden 😅. I'm sure you've heard that. Enjoying the content!
have heard the same story many times from bar girls in thailand. only part true is many are working to take care of family i loved this video you were very honest i could see you wanted to start to laugh about your friend.
The simple fact is most are working to take care their family. It doesn't matter whether the mother or the buffalo is sick, the money is most likely going to the same place. When I owned my bar; around 2300 every night the Thai Boyfriends would stop by and get money from their GF so they could go out.
You are so right. I hear guys talking all the time about wanting to give these girls a better life. Always ask them, do the girls want a better life that you have in mind for them? Thanks for the comment.
Hi Tom, great video as always, Thai bar girls are experts at the job they do, It is easy to get sucked in by their charm. My first visit to Pattaya was back in 2008 and luckily a friend who told me about Pattaya also gave me the book Private Dancer to read before my trip, I read that book twice before my trip and luckily survived thanks to reading Private Dancer. Advice to all first-time travelers to Pattaya read the book and listen to people like Tom who have been through a bad relationship with a bar girl, you will save yourself a lot of headaches and not get scammed. Once again Tom great video, looking forward to the next one. Take care brother.
I absolutely agree, private dancer and the book money, money, number one or like Bibles to what’s going on here in Pattaya for the single man out looking for a woman. I had another viewer mentioned that these books are 20+ years old and guys don’t read books anymore ha ha ha ha so I’m not sure. I’m hoping you can get these on electronic form.
It's actually not difficult to not get "played" in Pattaya. Maybe I was torn from a different cloth because I can sense it from a mile away. The problem is that a lot of these guys are not used to being "selected" by a beautiful young lady...they don't get any "action" in their perspective home country. So once they come here, all of a sudden they think they are hot shyt! LOL. On top of that, men usually think with their "dick" while women are typically more emotionally intelligent.
Great vid Tom, just came across your channel. Your sincerity stands you out and your honesty. The bar girls are there for entertainment & problems start when "we" steer away from being entertained snd start to look for an actual monogomous relationship. Hell, even Thai girls who are not involved in the bar scene are not monogomous. Guys need to know the rules and stick to them or risk becoming another ripped off saddo.
Question . Are these guys new to the whole bar scene ? It’s the same thing in Costa Rica, Panama, Colombia etcetra. But it seems these guys fall in love here in Pattaya more than over there. I don’t understand why a guy would fall in love with a bar girl. It’s just business. You can be friends with them. You can enjoy spending time with them. What you can’t do is think you’re gonna rescue them. Or change their lives. This applies to single moms in the US. Or abused women or whatever. If you run around trying to play Captain Save a H O E you will just keep getting burned. I’ve been burned before. We all have. I just don’t know why these guys in their 50s who I assume have life experiences. Experience with women back home , don’t apply those lessons here. Think about it. They are selling you a story. A beautiful woman in paradise. Who doesn’t want that? But in reality they are selling you a timeshare. Most of wouldn’t buy a timeshare. Why would you buy this product offered here? If it f^cks, flies , or floats , RENT IT!!
I think most of them fall under the spell 1: cause these girls are damn good and can see prey a mile away 2: loneliness, depression, sad, horrible divorce, and general need for human connection that can be hard these days to find for most older guys in western places that have become out of shape and haven’t kept care of themselves. They get a glimmer of attention after what may be possibly years of no girl even looking them in the eyes and it’s easy to be snared. I was lucky for the internet being here before my first trip and some solid channels telling all the things to beware and be careful. I met a girl off tinder and still almost fell for her. Had to leave one morning when I realized I was really starting to like her. She wasn’t even a bar girl (or as far as I could tell. 24 (I’m 40) no tattoos, doesn’t smoke or vape, hardly drinks, no kids, no sick family and never asked me for a penny… but who knows if I don’t live there 12 months a year what would be going on while away so had to go. I don’t struggle for women in the states. Washboard abs and all my hair, flashy car and all that. But, some girls know what do to and say to hit the nail square on. Happy trails my friend
😂😂😂 And she’s lovely , she got a whole bunch of tattoos 😂 . To funny Tom… Us men got to think with our big head not the small one …😂 Happy New Years to you .
Hi Tom, new sub here, this also happens with JV partners with Thai nationals..😂 End of the day, us men are really gullible to say the least, and the ladies know it too well.. But, if you have money to throw away, most of it goes to good use, not for ourselves but for the ladies and their families, they are extremely well taught in the mascaraed hahha.. And in the meantime, the guys get some good stories to tell and I am sure also have a wonderful time only if they keep their humor up and do not get depressed and angry, or indeed suicidal. What goes off and is spent in Thailand remains in Thailand😃
Hey Tom, this video will help someone to think about being with these girls its a shame how many fall for this situation.I hope your friend watched this video😂 👍🙏
My first experience there was ‘89 on a west pac. Young and have to say I want tricked or lead astray by a girl . Learned a lot and enjoyed myself . Hard at times to hold your common sense with all that’s being offered. Totally enjoy your channel !
Been with my gf 10 months still think I maybe being set up for the long game 😅.. I’m in bkk , she’s working ft , only occasionally asked for £ help but has often paid me back .. live can be blind for sure , but i’m sensible & strong minded … thanks for sharing your story 😊🙏
@@MargaritasinParadise I fell into that trap almost 30 years ago when I was venturing Angeles City, Philippines. It's really easy to do. Pretty girl who seems genuine, but only wants you for what she and her family can benefit from you. I lost some money, but it wasn't enough for a bad taste to be left in my mouth for many years...Thank Goddess!!! LOL
The good old she's different never ending story 😂 Mums sick. Buffalo's sick. Chicken's only got one leg. Not been working in the bar long. Brett - Ur just another Sponsor
Picking up a prostitute in the red light district 😂 what could go wrong... My take getting with anyone in Pattaya looking for love and a relationship will always be a massive risk no matter what they do for a living. Nightlife or something else. It's not normal for any young lady to get with an older man. If you think you're out of her league then that's a problem. Most are professional con artists and will take you to the cleaners even if it takes years and years to get what they want
Living in Thailand, I feel like I’ve seen it all. Sitting in bars in Pattaya, I feel like I’ve heard it all. I’ve mentioned this before that only one percent of the Thai female population doesn’t want monetization out of a relationship. I feel like I’ve been fortunate to be on both sides of that relationship in Thailand. My best advice is to take relationship slow. Most relationships don’t develop in one or two days here.
Most of these ding bat farangs honestly believe they can find true love in the first night in Pattaya or either NaNa especially after a big afternoon chang beer swirling session in the cheap Charlie happy hour beer bars .
Avoid all girls who work in the Bars or as freelancers and also girls who somehow come into contact with them, for example hotel staff, those who work in beauty salons and hairdressers.
Exactly, in Thailand, everybody needs money. But the chances of finding the wrong type of person goes up when dealing with people who work in the entertainment industry,
@Margaritas In Paradise Jesus Tom! Appreciate you for sharing your story. I know this could not happen to you now that you have some experience. I've been around most of Asia. I am an older guy that likes younger women. The thing is I have known red flags from the get-go. I never bother to look for a second one. I never commit, financially or otherwise. I play their game and when a red flag comes up, I'm done. First of all, I would never buy something and put it in someone else's name, the sob stories about parents, family etc. are a no no for me. I never picked up girls in bars but in shopping malls or businesses. Single and no children. If the subject of money comes up ( talking longer term) I tell them straight up, that their quality of life can be good if they enjoy my company, if not they can find someone else. I try to find girls with same interests and I do love the street food markets and swimming and traveling and of course I will pay for that. Buying them expensive thing is out of the question. Putting them on an allowance is not happening, I don't want to hear about any money problems. If it turns out to be short time, well that means that it would have never worked out long time, so we had a good time short time. Next. I spent 7 years setting up dates with Asians. They had to have a job not associated with the bar industry, they had to have a place of their own and no children. I was looking for an Asian in her early 30's that can speak good English, that is attractive to me, that is a good communicator, that has a good heart and that can cook good Thai, Chinese or Korean food. I went through about 150 girls and could not find one with all those things that I was looking for but I had a good time. In my experience, Philippinas are the most loyal and don't ask for much. My problem is that I don't like Philippina food. I don't know how many I picked up in the shopping malls. And they really appreciate the small things you do for them. Of course you have scammers but most of them are not. I'll be coming to Thailand and get a condo with a swimming pool and a gym, close to the Pattaya Night Street food market. And I will be looking for a girl and possibly meet her at the market. I've been following your common sense comments for a while and hope we can meet up and exchange some war stories, Maybe you can guide me through the visa process. I suppose I can look you up at Leos.
Sounds we definitely have a lot in common. I'm normally in Leo's on most Wednesday & Saturday Evenings around 7pm. Please ask for Tom or send me an email to margaritasinparadise@gmail.com
These guys like to have their egos and juniors stroked. Thai bar girls are smart and great manipulators. You are very humble to admit that you are still learning. 🙂
This type of video is priceless. Men need to know it's 100% all about the wallet sometimes. They don't love you it's just them trying to gain resources and . I am looking for mature woman my age in the 40s.....
Thanks for the valuable personal story, Tom. BTW, I saw you were with a tall asian woman a few days ago at T21. Not sure she is the Niki you mentioned here. I didn't say Hi to you because I didn't want to interrupt. Wish you well in the future!
Let me just say, you’re never interrupting,I definitely want to meet you. The girl in question was Amazon that I’ve talked about in other video’s. Nikky is long gone out of my life and is just a 45 year old bar girl doing what she does best 😂😂😂
Your basically renting a girlfriend. Be it ST or LT. Unless you make a commitment to take care of her. Strange to see all these old dudes who can't speak a word of thai with thai ladies who can't speak a word of English.
i almost can't believe what i just heard!! after 8 years of a relationship! property in her name, business in her name, living that quality life, she runs back and get bar fined! after 8 years? i really feel sorry for you. stories like this usually happen within weeks or maybe a month but, after 8 F** years.
I had a friend tell me once, You can take the girl out of the bar but you'll never take the bar out of the girl. I laugh about that now. Hopefully it's not true.
Ooohh my gosh I am in Pattaya until early January Went to one of the most famous bars in walking street Met a bar girl who is spectacular She is an incredible creature I think she's different Are you saying if they leap off the stage and wrap themselves around you for the night , when you first walk in ....... there may be trouble ahead Your so right I don't want help AAHHHH
You're absolutely right, There's actually way more good ones than bad. It's hard to tell the story though about a successful relationship that people want hear.
"Working 2 days in a bar and mother sick"...heard that and know the rest....hope the guy spent a lot of money...he looks young enough to still be working if it is the guy at the start ...BTW Private Dancer and Hello my Big Honey are 2 books that tell all these stories...25-30 years old now, but no one reads books these days,vif guys did read, they would learn something
It's crazy about this subject, the idea these books being listed in electronic versions. The guy in the Thumb is me, I didn't post a pic of Brett due to his privacy. He is though roughly 60 years old.
Sounds like the girl Nabi I met there. Minus the tattoos. Was her second day there. I said “yeah right” and she pulled her 10 year old or older phone out and went to the camera roll and showed me the van that came to pick her up to go. And her clothes she had on. She wasn’t kidding she was brand new and still had the innocence about her. I have a photo of her looking out the window of the condo that explains it all so perfectly. She could not stop looking at the view with big eyes and joy
This is a great Video for the Gullible, Men who have had very little success or experience with Women in their own Country sorry if that offends anybody but its the truth in my opinion.
Unfortunately it happens to a lot of people. I was pretty successful in the past with women and this even happened to me but that's just the way it goes we live and learn.
You got what you paid for ! That’s cool ! Too often this whole thing is villainized. You pay the big ticket items for a lady and get the love experience! Then it ends . Most of the time . The template is out there . Go in informed 🎉
She may have been working at that bar for two days…question is how long has she been in Pattaya But you still need to be careful with ladies who aren’t bar/massage ladies. If they go out clubbing with friends a lot. If they are on Thai Friendly, it could be that’s how they make extra money… Good rule of thumb is if they have conservative dating habits…
Yep Im another one. Lucky it was only my pride and heart that got hurt. They are only interested in money nothing else and lie like no other. Trust nothing they tell you. Its called survival.
Short time you got to keep on moving ain't nothing good break my stride sung by Matthew wilder that song should be compulsory motto for every single man travelling to Asia 😂 !
Brett came a long way since then. I think there was 3 updates to Brett's saga, here is the conclusion. th-cam.com/video/lIEJJqPOno0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=QJznujXNC0kOQkMS
I think Brett is in need for a reality check. Maybe needs to be burned a few times before realising the truth. Took me a few bargirl/girlfriends to realise. Luckily I only spent, what I could afford whilst on holiday. Had a good time, so no harm done. None of this sponsorship nonsense, they did try though.😊
Unfortunately, Brett ended up taking her out of the bar. She promised to go home after he left Thailand. Another red flag anyway, he is home now. I feel like going by that bar and taking some pictures.
Oh good lord..... Yep, heard that same story many times (far too often). I took a co-worker of mine to Pattaya (his first time) and literally within a few hours he became (what I call) "vagina blind" and hooked up with this attractive girl exclaiming "she's different" and "she really likes him". Well I looked at him, pulled him to the side and gave him two (what I believe to be) good pieces of advice #1- consider yourself a "walking ATM"... one to be used for the extraction of money! #2- "When your in an orchard, don't just pick one apple". Thanks for sharing your story and explaining what could possibly happen. You weren't the first and certainly won't be the last. I think your video and those like it do a great job and at least attempt to educate and make people more aware and try to make good decisions, but then again "you can lead a horse to water......." Aloha brother.... 🤙
That’s questionable depends on if he gets a lawyer and forms a company. There’s no doubt though, his girlfriend will try to get everything in her name.
they can freely quit and there is nothing to pay unless perhaps (long shot) there is debt bondage aka human trafficking which is a low probability. tattoos are in fashion more so among the lower socio-economic class (most of them come from) so they may have it even before working in bars. he'd be expected to support her if she stops working and lord knows what that entails.
imagine middle class and rich asian men going to Amsterdam red light district waving money around and looking for love, it be so hilarious to westerners; literally as a Thai man hearing of western men going to Pattaya bars looking for love is just as hilarious. So many falangs stay in Thailand and date a variety of woman yet do not actually know a real Thai woman and their culture and more. its the reason there is many channels that immerse themselves in the real Thailand with real Thai people
I'd say 95% of girls in Thailand is that way like your ex. You have to understand everything is a business agreement 🤝 when it comes to girls there is no love. Or the 5% maybe but you may as well wish for some millionaire girl gonna come and sweep you off your feet and take care of you your whole life cuz that's not happening
You ethier know the score or you dont .lm sure its easy to fall in love with these pretty bar girls every friday night .But you have to put them back where you found them no matter what..and thats that .
This story’s been told many times. I thought of telling my story many times. Brett stay in Pattaya made it easier to tell. If you’ve encountered a similar story please reply with “Yes”
Thanks for sharing the story, may i ask u if she claimed alimony/(maintenance) or something when u filed divorce?
@@A_Sen_0 No alimony or maintenance. We hired 1 lawyer, we both agreed on a settlement that she would pay me for certain assets due the source of the purchase came from USA funds. Otherwise, we both apppeared at Banglamung court. Signed waiver to each other. Signed the decree. I think the fee was around 2K baht. Then we were divorced. I received an English translation approximately 11 days later. Hope this helps.
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Thanks
You sound like Andre The Giant.
There is no need to buy them out from the bar, this is a scam to get money from you. The more tattoos, the longer they work in the environment. Just use common sense.
Absolutely, these ladies are known for quitting one bar and working at another the next day. There always seems to be plenty of work for these girls.
You're both right to certain degree. The problem exist if the girl is scene with the same customer. Greed is everywhere. I have seen a guy take a longneck to the back of the head and not get up for the same scenario.
Also, the scam is that after spending money on drinks all night, the girls say they are on their periods to get out of sex at the end of the night..
Great point Reference, Monger for Dummies, p. 36, para. 2, line. 2 - after 1st drink, specify intentions to eliminate negative outcomes…..
Correct. The bar owners smell opportunity and are crafty as f**k. Bar girls are brilliant, hot and fun but you have treat it as a game. If you gamble you play with money you can afford to lose & that should be how someone dates a bar girl. Give the impression that you're going along with stuff but never go over budget and be prepared to walk.
Tom, my personal opinion is that this is your most valuable and informative production! Your honesty about your personal story was impressive. If the newbies listen they'd avoid a lot of self-inflicted pain. Well done! (OK, I'm off to see my girl on soi 8 who's not like that) 555
I appreciates your reply Peter, It was a tough & brought back memories. Thanks, again.
Youve got guts for telling your story. Thanks for doing what you can to help the newbies 🤝
Thank you, this was probably my hardest video. It brought back memories that I don’t visit often.
Well done for your honesty Tom my take being a 24 year veteran to Pattaya is love them, but dont give all your money.
Without a doubt. Keep your Wit’s about and don’t believe every sad story you hear.
Do you think many lads will take part in the 4am extension tonight ???
Isn't that crazy. Bars will need 2 shifts of girls eventually. Personally, If I still had my bar, I would set my hours to 2AM.
a lot of these bars will struggle with these hours.
I think it’s gonna come down to greed between owners and managers. Unless there’s an actual demand for the individual bar to remain open extended hours
when you going on vacation to Thailand, Philippines, Mexico, Colombia... leave your heart at home.
And your wallet 😂
@andruk2009 You're right I personally live by the 3 day rule with girls.
hahaha
Be careful like you 🥴
I was wondering about your story Tom . Nice to see youve still got a smile on your face . Great video .
Thank you so much for the comment. That was a very tough/beautiful time in my life.
This even happened twice to an acquaintance of mine. He financed a house for different women twice in a row and was then thrown out. Then he should promise me that he wouldn't spend money on it again, he told me he can very well promise me that, because he doesn't have any money anymore. But my pity is limited
Was your friend German ? 😂🤣😂
Another day, another lonely fool.
@@NEILBAGELSTEIN123 Austrians!
I think it's hard being a friend. You definitely want to help but you don't want to offend him. It's a fine line.
Thanks for the honesty and telling your story as I have unfortunately heard it too often but not from someone first hand. It’s amazing to me how the girls still follow the same playbook over all these years. There has to be some new twists to their “plan” and maybe you can find some of those and share them as well. I hope to run into you as well when I’m in Pattaya. It’s great that you are so welcoming to your subscribers.
I’m working on a new video right now, but does suggest a possible turn in the plan. More to come then though. Thank you for the comment and I definitely look forward to meeting you as well.
Your honesty on your relationship with Nikki was impressive and will hopefully help others. I subscribed, you are a good man.😊
Thanks and welcome, Nikki has been a hard subject for me to fully open up on. Some day, I will do a detailed video.
Great video. Thanks for sharing your experience Tom.
The best part about your experience is that you had it and you still have a positive attitude about Thailand.
That’s strength 💪🏼 my friend. Keep on trucking. 👍🏼😀💪🏼
Dave
Thank You so Much
Respect for your honesty, thanks
I appreciate that, the story was a hard one for to tell personally for me but I thought it I needed to be honest about it.
Tom - took a lot to bring that up publicly.
Hopefully it will help someone .
Great info and keep the good work ..
Maybe see ya this January.
Be well ..
Thank you so much. I thought about my story many times before, whether I was going to publish it or not this just seem like the perfect time with my friend Brett.
Thanks for the story and honesty, I am visiting pattaya more and listening to more stories and experiences before retiring there
Thailand is so addicting. It’s easy to fall into this trap. Thanks for the comment
@@MargaritasinParadise agree 100%, that's why I take advice from you and other retire in thailand, eventhough my trip in 18DEC will be my 11th time, and I always learn something new
Thanks
Good stuff & thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
They don't need to be bar-girls. Even the ones with straight jobs need money. They ALL need money because they are paid so little. Regardless of the job-category, if you play, you pay. I dated women exclusively with straight jobs, including one with a college education, all except one needed monetary help. I should have married the exception, but she ran off with a THAI man. (what a joke). Most women here are going to need some kind of monetary help. Deal with it. Stay away from the bar-girls.
All women everywhere want your money. Only a true mug believes a western woman loves them "for them".😂
Yeah no free lunch in Thailand.
Any girl who doesn't need money from you usually marries with a same kind of man, because of culture, language, etc.
@@nickjones8867 Yeah no free lunch on planet earth. There, I corrected you're statment......
Yep
Good on yah. Appreciate the honesty. And, yes, you can find love here - married for 15 years now and retired in Thaiand
Larry here is the perfect example of finding the right one. 😍
Hi it was nice to see you could tell your story and laugh after all that you went through!
That's a tough part of my life. I wasn't sure that I was going to share it. Still thinking about makes me sad.
What a nice guy , no doubt her loss, well done brother your a true inspiration .
Thanks for your comment.
I lived there for 10 years and I don't think 9/10 guys are mentally capable of handling it and more than 9/10 haven't got enough money. They are simply running away from the craphole of a live they had somewhere else.
I think you’re right for some. I had a great life prior to moving here, but always was that wander. at one point I visited Thailand and just fell in love with it and knew that I would be back
Just found your channel and subscribed. Great video.
Welcome aboard! Thank you so much &.let me know if you see anything that I can do better.
Hey Tom...new Sub from Arkansas and just moved to Pattaya! Wow...when I first saw your video I thought it was John Madden 😅. I'm sure you've heard that. Enjoying the content!
Thanks for the sub! Remember the road to easy street goes through the sewer. 😀
have heard the same story many times from bar girls in thailand. only part true is many are working to take care of family i loved this video you were very honest i could see you wanted to start to laugh about your friend.
The simple fact is most are working to take care their family. It doesn't matter whether the mother or the buffalo is sick, the money is most likely going to the same place. When I owned my bar; around 2300 every night the Thai Boyfriends would stop by and get money from their GF so they could go out.
Thank you for the advice. Its very hard not to become emotionally attached to the ladies that work in bars. Some of them are very beautiful.
You are so right. I hear guys talking all the time about wanting to give these girls a better life. Always ask them, do the girls want a better life that you have in mind for them? Thanks for the comment.
You can hear the birds in the background so beautiful reminds me of the Condo i stayed at in naklua
The sound of nature is definitely one of the perks of living where I do. Life is good.
@@MargaritasinParadise youre one lucky man no doubt about it 😊
Thank you
Thanks for your honesty. Its cheaper to learn from others mistskes.
Glad it was helpful!
Hi Tom, great video as always, Thai bar girls are experts at the job they do, It is easy to get sucked in by their charm. My first visit to Pattaya was back in 2008 and luckily a friend who told me about Pattaya also gave me the book Private Dancer to read before my trip, I read that book twice before my trip and luckily survived thanks to reading Private Dancer. Advice to all first-time travelers to Pattaya read the book and listen to people like Tom who have been through a bad relationship with a bar girl, you will save yourself a lot of headaches and not get scammed. Once again Tom great video, looking forward to the next one. Take care brother.
I absolutely agree, private dancer and the book money, money, number one or like Bibles to what’s going on here in Pattaya for the single man out looking for a woman. I had another viewer mentioned that these books are 20+ years old and guys don’t read books anymore ha ha ha ha so I’m not sure. I’m hoping you can get these on electronic form.
It's actually not difficult to not get "played" in Pattaya. Maybe I was torn from a different cloth because I can sense it from a mile away. The problem is that a lot of these guys are not used to being "selected" by a beautiful young lady...they don't get any "action" in their perspective home country. So once they come here, all of a sudden they think they are hot shyt! LOL. On top of that, men usually think with their "dick" while women are typically more emotionally intelligent.
Haha, great point
I just listened to Private Dancer on you-tubes, it was fantastic !@@MargaritasinParadise
Great vid Tom, just came across your channel. Your sincerity stands you out and your honesty. The bar girls are there for entertainment & problems start when "we" steer away from being entertained snd start to look for an actual monogomous relationship. Hell, even Thai girls who are not involved in the bar scene are not monogomous. Guys need to know the rules and stick to them or risk becoming another ripped off saddo.
Welcome aboard! Thank you so much for your input.
Good you can laugh and move on and tell the story and give advice,Cheers.....
This life scars many forever. I still love Thailand, I’ve lived & learned.
Great show. !!!!!
Thank you so much
i respect anyone who can put their faults on the table to possibly help others from making the same faults...speaking words of wisdom
Thank You so much
How did you get her back to the states, with a bar girl background. I had heard its impossible
I hired a lawyer and had them work out the details.
Question . Are these guys new to the whole bar scene ? It’s the same thing in Costa Rica, Panama, Colombia etcetra. But it seems these guys fall in love here in Pattaya more than over there.
I don’t understand why a guy would fall in love with a bar girl. It’s just business. You can be friends with them. You can enjoy spending time with them. What you can’t do is think you’re gonna rescue them. Or change their lives.
This applies to single moms in the US. Or abused women or whatever. If you run around trying to play Captain Save a H O E you will just keep getting burned. I’ve been burned before. We all have. I just don’t know why these guys in their 50s who I assume have life experiences. Experience with women back home , don’t apply those lessons here.
Think about it. They are selling you a story. A beautiful woman in paradise. Who doesn’t want that? But in reality they are selling you a timeshare. Most of wouldn’t buy a timeshare. Why would you buy this product offered here?
If it f^cks, flies , or floats , RENT IT!!
I like your way of thinking. Thanks for the comment.
I think most of them fall under the spell 1: cause these girls are damn good and can see prey a mile away 2: loneliness, depression, sad, horrible divorce, and general need for human connection that can be hard these days to find for most older guys in western places that have become out of shape and haven’t kept care of themselves. They get a glimmer of attention after what may be possibly years of no girl even looking them in the eyes and it’s easy to be snared. I was lucky for the internet being here before my first trip and some solid channels telling all the things to beware and be careful. I met a girl off tinder and still almost fell for her. Had to leave one morning when I realized I was really starting to like her. She wasn’t even a bar girl (or as far as I could tell. 24 (I’m 40) no tattoos, doesn’t smoke or vape, hardly drinks, no kids, no sick family and never asked me for a penny… but who knows if I don’t live there 12 months a year what would be going on while away so had to go. I don’t struggle for women in the states. Washboard abs and all my hair, flashy car and all that. But, some girls know what do to and say to hit the nail square on. Happy trails my friend
😂😂😂 And she’s lovely , she got a whole bunch of tattoos 😂 . To funny Tom…
Us men got to think with our big head not the small one …😂
Happy New Years to you .
Happy New Year
You are a brave man to tell your story well done ❤❤❤
Thank you so much! I thought about this story for a long time..
Theses girls are just Playing The Game it’s Always Always About Money!!!!!! Well done with your Honesty all the best from a wet cold and windy 🌬️ 🇬🇧👍👍
The game has been going on a long time. Thanks for your comment.
Kudos to you for telling your story ❤🙏🙏❤
Thank you very much
Hi Tom, new sub here, this also happens with JV partners with Thai nationals..😂 End of the day, us men are really gullible to say the least, and the ladies know it too well.. But, if you have money to throw away, most of it goes to good use, not for ourselves but for the ladies and their families, they are extremely well taught in the mascaraed hahha.. And in the meantime, the guys get some good stories to tell and I am sure also have a wonderful time only if they keep their humor up and do not get depressed and angry, or indeed suicidal. What goes off and is spent in Thailand remains in Thailand😃
That's a great representation and really the truth. I love your writing style.Thanks for subscribing.
Hey Tom, this video will help someone to think about being with these girls its a shame how many fall for this situation.I hope your friend watched this video😂 👍🙏
Brett’s definitely on a high right now, but I hope he does watch the video. Thank you for your comment.
Makes sense, thx for heads up
Thanks for the comment
My first experience there was ‘89 on a west pac.
Young and have to say I want tricked or lead astray by a girl .
Learned a lot and enjoyed myself .
Hard at times to hold your common sense with all that’s being offered.
Totally enjoy your channel !
I know right? It’s like fantasyland for adults. Thank you for viewing.
Yes Sir, feel better and look for ya out there soon !
Excellent, hope to meet.
Been with my gf 10 months still think I maybe being set up for the long game 😅.. I’m in bkk , she’s working ft , only occasionally asked for £ help but has often paid me back .. live can be blind for sure , but i’m sensible & strong minded … thanks for sharing your story 😊🙏
Of course you possibly and I hope have really got lucky. Not all relationships work out the same way mine did . We still have hopes for Brett.
Same here, good luck to ya
I can tell that your story was tough for you and thank you for telling it.
Thank you for the comment. It was hard bringing up old memories
@@MargaritasinParadise I fell into that trap almost 30 years ago when I was venturing Angeles City, Philippines. It's really easy to do. Pretty girl who seems genuine, but only wants you for what she and her family can benefit from you. I lost some money, but it wasn't enough for a bad taste to be left in my mouth for many years...Thank Goddess!!! LOL
Again, thank you for your comment. Today I’m laughing about my past mistakes, especially when I hear others tell their stories almost daily.
“She’s different” Blahaha
She says she loves me!!!!
🤣😂🤑🤑🤑
Exactly 😂😂😂
At least you seemed to have learned your lesson, it's amazing how many people do it twice.
I definitely feel like I have learned my lesson although in all honesty, I had previous lessons that I just didn't marry. Haha
Private dancer was great!
Absolutely, true story told many times.
The good old she's different never ending story 😂 Mums sick. Buffalo's sick. Chicken's only got one leg. Not been working in the bar long.
Brett - Ur just another Sponsor
I believe you're right, hopefully he learns before it's too late.
Wild story indeed.
A follow-up to the story will be released soon. More to come
Nice guys finish last in Pattaya
It's amazing when you think about, how the nice guys just keep getting taken advantage of. Thanks for brining up this valid point.
A grrreat story Tom.
Thanks Seamus, I appreciate your comments so much
Picking up a prostitute in the red light district 😂 what could go wrong... My take getting with anyone in Pattaya looking for love and a relationship will always be a massive risk no matter what they do for a living. Nightlife or something else. It's not normal for any young lady to get with an older man. If you think you're out of her league then that's a problem. Most are professional con artists and will take you to the cleaners even if it takes years and years to get what they want
Yep spot on you just rent love when on holiday i do wonder if Thai girls have the capacity to love your thoughts ?????
Living in Thailand, I feel like I’ve seen it all. Sitting in bars in Pattaya, I feel like I’ve heard it all. I’ve mentioned this before that only one percent of the Thai female population doesn’t want monetization out of a relationship. I feel like I’ve been fortunate to be on both sides of that relationship in Thailand.
My best advice is to take relationship slow. Most relationships don’t develop in one or two days here.
Most of these ding bat farangs honestly believe they can find true love in the first night in Pattaya or either NaNa especially after a big afternoon chang beer swirling session in the cheap Charlie happy hour beer bars .
Wow. 8 years. That’s a long game tale that’s hard to see coming.
I felt the same way.💔💔💔
Yes, same same but different...
Haha, I've heard that before
You save all men from financial collapse 👍🙏🙏👍
I’m trying to do the right thing
"Sick Bufflo" ....etc etc
Dale (Perth Australia)
Oops forgot that one hahaha
Avoid all girls who work in the Bars or as freelancers and also girls who somehow come into contact with them, for example hotel staff, those who work in beauty salons and hairdressers.
Exactly, in Thailand, everybody needs money. But the chances of finding the wrong type of person goes up when dealing with people who work in the entertainment industry,
@Margaritas In Paradise Jesus Tom! Appreciate you for sharing your story. I know this could not happen to you now that you have some experience. I've been around most of Asia. I am an older guy that likes younger women. The thing is I have known red flags from the get-go. I never bother to look for a second one. I never commit, financially or otherwise. I play their game and when a red flag comes up, I'm done. First of all, I would never buy something and put it in someone else's name, the sob stories about parents, family etc. are a no no for me. I never picked up girls in bars but in shopping malls or businesses. Single and no children. If the subject of money comes up ( talking longer term) I tell them straight up, that their quality of life can be good if they enjoy my company, if not they can find someone else. I try to find girls with same interests and I do love the street food markets and swimming and traveling and of course I will pay for that. Buying them expensive thing is out of the question. Putting them on an allowance is not happening, I don't want to hear about any money problems. If it turns out to be short time, well that means that it would have never worked out long time, so we had a good time short time. Next.
I spent 7 years setting up dates with Asians. They had to have a job not associated with the bar industry, they had to have a place of their own and no children. I was looking for an Asian in her early 30's that can speak good English, that is attractive to me, that is a good communicator, that has a good heart and that can cook good Thai, Chinese or Korean food. I went through about 150 girls and could not find one with all those things that I was looking for but I had a good time.
In my experience, Philippinas are the most loyal and don't ask for much. My problem is that I don't like Philippina food.
I don't know how many I picked up in the shopping malls. And they really appreciate the small things you do for them. Of course you have scammers but most of them are not.
I'll be coming to Thailand and get a condo with a swimming pool and a gym, close to the Pattaya Night Street food market.
And I will be looking for a girl and possibly meet her at the market.
I've been following your common sense comments for a while and hope we can meet up and exchange some war stories, Maybe you can guide me through the visa process. I suppose I can look you up at Leos.
Sounds we definitely have a lot in common. I'm normally in Leo's on most Wednesday & Saturday Evenings around 7pm. Please ask for Tom or send me an email to margaritasinparadise@gmail.com
@@MargaritasinParadise Thanks. I just sent you an email.
on it.Thanks
These guys like to have their egos and juniors stroked. Thai bar girls are smart and great manipulators. You are very humble to admit that you are still learning. 🙂
You’re definitely right, life goes on.
You don't have to buy them out of the bar. You pay a bar fine, and if they want to leave the bar and go home, then they just go
Point Taken, Thanks for your comment .
This type of video is priceless. Men need to know it's 100% all about the wallet sometimes. They don't love you it's just them trying to gain resources and . I am looking for mature woman my age in the 40s.....
I get it 100% Experience is worth so much more in a relationship.
Thanks for the valuable personal story, Tom. BTW, I saw you were with a tall asian woman a few days ago at T21. Not sure she is the Niki you mentioned here. I didn't say Hi to you because I didn't want to interrupt. Wish you well in the future!
Let me just say, you’re never interrupting,I definitely want to meet you. The girl in question was Amazon that I’ve talked about in other video’s. Nikky is long gone out of my life and is just a 45 year old bar girl doing what she does best 😂😂😂
the tall girl was probably the voice of Pattaya KC CHIEFS radio broacast
There's a possibility, she does have great voice. 😂
Chase bar girls, gogo girls, massage girls and you won't have a Thai girlfriend. In the end you'll be thankful. There's no commitment from me or her.
Nice, there are options available
Your basically renting a girlfriend. Be it ST or LT. Unless you make a commitment to take care of her. Strange to see all these old dudes who can't speak a word of thai with thai ladies who can't speak a word of English.
The sugar daddy presence is alive & well in Thailand
i almost can't believe what i just heard!! after 8 years of a relationship! property in her name, business in her name, living that quality life, she runs back and get bar fined! after 8 years? i really feel sorry for you. stories like this usually happen within weeks or maybe a month but, after 8 F** years.
I had a friend tell me once, You can take the girl out of the bar but you'll never take the bar out of the girl. I laugh about that now. Hopefully it's not true.
Good vlog...very honest. Brett better listen to you or he will be shafted left, right and centre. No question about it. Sorry Brett!
Thanks 👍, hopefully he'll come around.
Some Men need to understand the difference between a potential good woman for long term and recreational use only.
Great Point
OMG I met the same girl !!😂 where is the sick buffalo?? 😅
I met her myself 20 years ago, hahaha
Ooohh my gosh
I am in Pattaya until early January
Went to one of the most famous bars in walking street
Met a bar girl who is spectacular She is an incredible creature
I think she's different
Are you saying if they leap off the stage and wrap themselves around you for the night , when you first walk in ....... there may be trouble ahead
Your so right I don't want help AAHHHH
Haha, sounds like you have all the help you need
They are all different.
100% correct
Same happened to me. Took everything. Just fuck them and leave. Enjoy Thailand with your friends 😊
I'm sorry you had to go that experience. Thanks, for your comment
My Thai girlfriend is an Accounting Manager for a Japanese Manufacturing company in Amata City. There are good ones out there!
You're absolutely right, There's actually way more good ones than bad. It's hard to tell the story though about a successful relationship that people want hear.
"Working 2 days in a bar and mother sick"...heard that and know the rest....hope the guy spent a lot of money...he looks young enough to still be working if it is the guy at the start ...BTW Private Dancer and Hello my Big Honey are 2 books that tell all these stories...25-30 years old now, but no one reads books these days,vif guys did read, they would learn something
It's crazy about this subject, the idea these books being listed in electronic versions. The guy in the Thumb is me, I didn't post a pic of Brett due to his privacy. He is though roughly 60 years old.
Sounds like the girl Nabi I met there. Minus the tattoos. Was her second day there. I said “yeah right” and she pulled her 10 year old or older phone out and went to the camera roll and showed me the van that came to pick her up to go. And her clothes she had on. She wasn’t kidding she was brand new and still had the innocence about her. I have a photo of her looking out the window of the condo that explains it all so perfectly. She could not stop looking at the view with big eyes and joy
Sounds about right, I'm sure there's just so many of these girls, all with the same game.
that happened to me too🤣🤣🤣🤣
Sorry to hear, unfortunately it's going to happen to a lot of people. Some will heed the warning but others will continue to make their own mistakes.
WHY would Nicky do a barfine and jeopardize the stability of the jackpot she'd already obtained with you? Why? For 3000 baht? I don't get it!
She wanted more. Girls like this are never satified.
You forgot to mention the sick water buffalo that requires urgent vetanarian treatment
Oops, well he hasn't mentioned it yet. This is a developing story.😃
This is a great Video for the Gullible, Men who have had very little success or experience with Women in their own Country sorry if that offends anybody but its the truth in my opinion.
Unfortunately it happens to a lot of people. I was pretty successful in the past with women and this even happened to me but that's just the way it goes we live and learn.
Sorry Tom about your ex doing that to you….I feel your a good man and I hoped you find what you’re looking for….
I appreciate that so much. Now I just live with an open mind and enjoy my life.
Finding love on soi 6 is like going into the swamp and finding a tame alligator..soi 7 maybe..😂
Haha, I'd be cautious anywhere west of Sukumvitt.
You got what you paid for ! That’s cool ! Too often this whole thing is villainized. You pay the big ticket items for a lady and get the love experience! Then it ends . Most of the time . The template is out there . Go in informed 🎉
I like the way you look at it. Thanks.
She may have been working at that bar for two days…question is how long has she been in Pattaya
But you still need to be careful with ladies who aren’t bar/massage ladies. If they go out clubbing with friends a lot. If they are on Thai Friendly, it could be that’s how they make extra money…
Good rule of thumb is if they have conservative dating habits…
A valid point, or how long has she worked at the present bar.
Yep Im another one. Lucky it was only my pride and heart that got hurt. They are only interested in money nothing else and lie like no other. Trust nothing they tell you. Its called survival.
It's easy to get fooled, guys need to learn to look beyond the short game
How to make small fortune in pattaya is. Bring big fortune with u happy hunting from emerald isle😮😮
I love it, I've been telling that joke for years. 😂😂😂
Short time you got to keep on moving ain't nothing good break my stride sung by Matthew wilder that song should be compulsory motto for every single man travelling to Asia 😂 !
Nice, I had to look it up, but nice
6:30 what a deal. I hope he is ok.
Brett came a long way since then. I think there was 3 updates to Brett's saga, here is the conclusion. th-cam.com/video/lIEJJqPOno0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=QJznujXNC0kOQkMS
I think Brett is in need for a reality check.
Maybe needs to be burned a few times before realising the truth.
Took me a few bargirl/girlfriends to realise.
Luckily I only spent, what I could afford whilst on holiday.
Had a good time, so no harm done.
None of this sponsorship nonsense, they did try though.😊
Unfortunately, Brett ended up taking her out of the bar. She promised to go home after he left Thailand. Another red flag anyway, he is home now. I feel like going by that bar and taking some pictures.
Oh good lord..... Yep, heard that same story many times (far too often). I took a co-worker of mine to Pattaya (his first time) and literally within a few hours he became (what I call) "vagina blind" and hooked up with this attractive girl exclaiming "she's different" and "she really likes him". Well I looked at him, pulled him to the side and gave him two (what I believe to be) good pieces of advice #1- consider yourself a "walking ATM"... one to be used for the extraction of money! #2- "When your in an orchard, don't just pick one apple".
Thanks for sharing your story and explaining what could possibly happen. You weren't the first and certainly won't be the last. I think your video and those like it do a great job and at least attempt to educate and make people more aware and try to make good decisions, but then again "you can lead a horse to water......."
Aloha brother.... 🤙
I appreciate your comment and supportive words so much.
The "Hairy Lasso" will bring many a man undone. Its a powerful thing the 2nd hole from the back of the neck!
hahaha
So, what happened to the house and business in Thailand?!?! Does it become her sole property?
That’s questionable depends on if he gets a lawyer and forms a company. There’s no doubt though, his girlfriend will try to get everything in her name.
they can freely quit and there is nothing to pay unless perhaps (long shot) there is debt bondage aka human trafficking which is a low probability. tattoos are in fashion more so among the lower socio-economic class (most of them come from) so they may have it even before working in bars. he'd be expected to support her if she stops working and lord knows what that entails.
Thank you for your input
@@MargaritasinParadise thank you but we should be more focused on her input (pun intended)
Hahaha
imagine middle class and rich asian men going to Amsterdam red light district waving money around and looking for love, it be so hilarious to westerners; literally as a Thai man hearing of western men going to Pattaya bars looking for love is just as hilarious. So many falangs stay in Thailand and date a variety of woman yet do not actually know a real Thai woman and their culture and more. its the reason there is many channels that immerse themselves in the real Thailand with real Thai people
That’s a valid point and a channel that’s worth pursuing for the right guys.
Researching n google it be 4 you going the place like that in Thailand.every single men all over the world they knew it.😢😢😢😢😢😅😅😅😅
Haha, eventually they will learn
Never put yourself in a position of compromise.
Great point & advice!
Buy her out of her contract? Send her money every month? What could possibly go wrong?
Hahaha, I know, right? 😂🤣🤣🤣
Everyone who comes here should read Private Dancer
Absolutely
There is no love in Pattaya hopefully Bret could get on with his life
I'm not sure, we'll see if he returns in 30 days.
Ahhhhhh! The NAWALT
Not All Women Are Like That 😂
Haha, I bet you’ve never heard that before. Haha
that love is blind 😔😔😔😔😔😔
You are so right.
So how do you know you met a good lady you can start a business with!?
That’s going to be a hard call. I think it’s gonna probably depend on where you meet. Or what kind of lifestyle they currently have.
I'd say 95% of girls in Thailand is that way like your ex. You have to understand everything is a business agreement 🤝 when it comes to girls there is no love. Or the 5% maybe but you may as well wish for some millionaire girl gonna come and sweep you off your feet and take care of you your whole life cuz that's not happening
it's definitely a tough love game in Thailand. One of my last GF's told me she didn't care about my money. 2 weeks later she asked for 20K baht
You ethier know the score or you dont .lm sure its easy to fall in love with these pretty bar girls every friday night .But you have to put them back where you found them no matter what..and thats that .
Good plan. 😂😂😂