Logic Pro 11 Chord Track with Scaler 2 for Infinite Possibilities!
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- Davide Carbone demonstrates the infinite possibilities of using Logic Pro 11's new Chord Track features alongside the power of Scaler 2. Scaler 2 is tailor made to feed Logic songs and chord progressions and edit them, modulate them or expand them using the many ways to contour chords in Scaler. By combining Logic Pro 11's session players and its chord track along with Scaler 2 makes it really easy to come up with many different genres of music and ideas to launch your own track from.
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0:00 Intro
0:34 Loading Scaler 2 as a MIDI FX to create chords
1:45 Getting Scaler 2's chords into Logic Pro 11's Chord Track
4:11 Adding Bass Player and making a Disco track
5:50 Changing Logic's Chord Track chords using Scaler's Suggest Mode
7:50 Finishing the Disco Track
9:00 Making a Bossa Nova / Jazz Track with Logic 11 and Scaler 2
12:08 Adding more chords to the Chord Track using Scaler 2
14:07 Making a Cinematic Track with Scaler 2 and Logic Pro Chord Track
15:25 Using Scaler 2 to create melodies alongside Logic 11 Chord Track
16:25 Using Scaler 2's Keys Lock mode to add a vocal
19:12 Recap on integrating the power of Scaler 2 with Logic 11's new Chord Track and session players
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The moment you have an idea as how to use scaler with the new Logic Pro chord track….a video appears in on your you tube feed.Not only that it’s from the Scaler guys themselves.😊
same here! :)
you too? lol
Same here 😂 - These lot have changed the gain again !!!!!
you guys are a FULL SERVICE support team. The amount of work you put in to educate and inspire is is not even close to anyone else. Thanks soooo much.
BEST Scaler tut I've seen to date.
Pay this man well.
When I saw the chord tool update in LP11 I thought "How will I use properly it with Scaler 2". And Tada ! Here you are !🙏
WOW since the new logic update I've been doing this but typing in the chords by hand... This video came right on time! So many great tips and why did that keyboard part sound so sick lol.
David, this is just amazing. I thought what will scaler do now, and was waiting for the video. You were quick and you show just how much scaler 2 is an amazing tool/plugin. Thanks!!
I've had Scaler 2 for less than a week and I'm already in love with what you're all doing! Thank you so much
Thank you for supporting Scaler 2! Enjoy the journey it's a lovely one.
🤯🤯🤯 I don't know how you will make Scaler 3 better than this, but I can't wait.
Thanks for showing these demos, just excellent!
I had been slaving to operate Logic 11 and Scaler together when up pops this fantastic tutorial. Scaler is magic.
Excellent. Looking forward to diving in.
What Up David - You have just shown the POWER of Scaler by NOT TALKING about Scaler....but about Logic Pro - Go Figure!!!!!
Manyun you're one awesome kat Davide... salute!
Great video, thanks. Just what we needed.
Absolutely amazing, Thank you David
OMG!!🤯🤯🤯 LOVE IT!!! Thanks again to the Scaler Team!!!
This is crazy! Thanks for this tips!
Nice...Perfect timing, I was just trying to get figure this out yesterday. 👍
Amazing tutorial, thank you so much!!!
Thank you so much for this tutorial. Scaler 2 is awesome!
Wow! That was just beautiful...💯%👈
awesome califragilistic. Thanks...!
I literally was fighting getting these two to work together yesterday and poof, the tutorial comes up just like that 😁
This makes me so happy 😀
This. Is. Awesome
I need to get scaler for sure. This will make music so fun for me!!
Nice work!! Thank you for these tips!! Allot of people are complaining about the update. For me, these updates made my life super easier!! Super in love with these updates to supercharge my workflow!!
wow This the Magic right there. Logic 11 and Scaler2, great video..
a big THANK YOU Davide
That is a Jamiroquai vibe with that Disco track!!
Wow! That’s powerful
Going thru ur scaler 2 course! Very kool!
Very helpful video just after the new release of logic I was wondering how would scaler help and work 🤔 now boom 🤯 sweet
Excellent !!! 🙂
Excellent tutorial! I’d really love to see a Logic Pro for iPad/Scaler 2 tutorial one day, too. 🎉🎉Fingers crossed!
How about this one? th-cam.com/video/3xUHvhd6Sbs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=38OcMim2vdwCzVg2 Few others on TH-cam too! Hope that helps.
Welp, I'm heading straight over to buy Scaler now.
This will actually get me to purchase Scaler 2
I absolutely adore Scaler 2. Suggested category: 90’s and grunge.
I love that ❤ ! Thanks teacher
Fantastic. This inspired me to create a short video on how to do something similar using Scaler 2 and Logic Pro 2.0 for iPad, and it works pretty well and is also quite fast at getting chords added. It's great that these apps can work together so well. Thanks!
Very nice track good Job.
Ridiculous 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
Been a busy week so I tinkered around with the new session players a little. This morning I dug into the features this morning and found the chord input quite clumsy... I thought to myself. I wonder if scaler can help work this. Woohoo! Looks like it can!
the fact that you can not drop midi files directly in the chord track is aweful. the controls inside the session tool sometimes do not fully show up or are not clickable. midi chase is not working properly in session mode and when you repeat chord track sections via cmd-r logic shuts down sometimes.(m1max64gb) I hope the update comes soon. But sessiion bass is the shit.
Really hope to see an update which enables us to do so soon!
Yeah it’s overly complicated unlike cubase and studio one and you can’t even follow the chord track on any plugin instrument 👎
Can‘t you just drop the midi on the channel and then record the channel in the chord track?
@@laro4177 the only way to make Logic work like cubase and Studio one is to place all your instruments in a folder and drop your chord progression on the folder track. The Instruments in the folder track will follow the chord progression.
What would be better is to design the chord track to be used like the groove track so you can decide which instruments or tracks should follow it. There’s so many things that need to be added to Logic but good luck getting it implemented.
@@errmable Was going to say - this is painful to watch when I can simply lasso all the chords in Scalar and simply drag the whole lot to the Chord Track in Studio One. Done in two seconds.
Scaler 2 was ready and waiting for me. Just finished upgrading and thinking “how does this work w Scaler 2”?
I was just wondering how I could put scaler chords in the chord track
You can do a similar thing on Logic Pro for Ipad by using the ‘Record to midi to track here’.
Thanks
Thanks for working that out, to be honest I haven't had a chance to grab the Pad but will have the team do some experimenting next week. I guess the questions is - is there a substitute for TAB for next chord on the iPad?
Yes good video and explanation of how to do that here forum.scalerplugin.com/t/scaler-2-ipad-chords-logic-pro-ipad-chord-track/16411/2
Amazing! Hopefully in the future we'll be able to just drag any MIDI region into the Chord track and it add the chords in automatically. Till then this is a great and fast way to get chords into the Chord Track :)
Studio One does this.
@@sau1itud366 I think it’s only a matter of time… I have no problems waiting, no intention to switch DAWs any time soon since Logic offers free updates for LIFE, does Studio One do that?
We absolutely agree. I imagine there may be some conversations between the Scaler team and Apple on how to better integrate 3rd party MIDI!
@@sau1itud366 Does Studio One do lifetime free updates?
@@SchoolofSynthesis I really hope so!
❤Amazing! 👍
Perfect! :)
Brilliant
Holy crap. 👏👏👏💚
Thanks a lot for the functional tips. Scaler 2 is great for a reasonable price I think 🙏🏼✌🏼
Without even seeing this first thing i did learning about logic global chords was hop onto scaler to find a chord progression i like
This LP11 update keeps showing to be amazing. Great tut. Thanks
It is really inspiring! I even ready to buy a plugin ( not steal as usual 😂🤙)
Thank You for that information!
God bless You!
Greetings from Russia!
Amazing, what you did with those tools!
Thank you very much!
And Daw Sync??? Am I missing something? Do I have to choose in the setting somewhere so that Scaler follows Logic? When I enable Daw sync Scaler still plays the number of beats selected in Settings/playback???
Thank you for showing this. Is there any shortcut for changing the length of the next chord when writing them into the chord track?
Good question, not sure but I think we will see some rapid improvements with the chord track over time
@Davide - are these techniques available on the iPad platform?
This is awesome. I was wondering, could you drag the chords from Scaler straight onto the chord track OR drag the chords from Scaler onto the track itself and then drag the chords from the track to the chord track? I''m a Studio One user and you can do that with its chord track. If it works in Logic, it would be easier than having to click the chords in the chord track one by one, press tab, click the chord in Scaler etc. Awesome that Logic has a chord track now though. I love that feature.
I also can’t understand why Apple didn’t do this?
Cool
Question: I've been having issues turning session players into midi. Can you do a video showing how to do that with Bass Plater and Spectrasonics Trilian?
How do we do use Scaler 2 in Logic Pro for iPad 2? Thanks for all you do.
Hi there are several videos online that can help, have you seen this one? th-cam.com/video/3xUHvhd6Sbs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=5JVY6ifGdxi7hvNp
Using Scaler Control in Logic. If I play the chords in, rather than drag chords in will the humanizing feature work even though I only see the single midi notes in logic? Is it considered an audio file when I do that?
I purchased Scaler EQ for iPad and last video you mentioned that Scaler 2.9 for iPad would be releasing some times between ending of last month and beginning of this one... nothing yet... Logic Pro 2 on iPad is also available and will they work well together?
It's close, unfortunately it's a tough job for the development team but it is there and close. Yes works with iPad
Great! now we want the same with the Cubase chord track 🙂 (something we have asked long time ago)
Can't you just drag a MIDI item up to the chord track?
@@jbognap That's what we do, but this is level-0 integration, we'd expect something better integrated like what David has demonstrated here (or even better 🙂)
It would be cool to have similar workflow on iPad pro. I find the session players most useful for throwing some ideas down, which typically happens while traveling/flying. It would be great if you could do a tutorial for the iPad app.
Good video and explanation of how to do that here forum.scalerplugin.com/t/scaler-2-ipad-chords-logic-pro-ipad-chord-track/16411/2
There is a slightly faster way to enter the chords from Scaler into the Chord Track, based on that video (not mine):
th-cam.com/video/mJ7pTR7iKGY/w-d-xo.html
1. Drag and drop Scaler chords onto an empty instrument track
2. Create an instrument track and set it to Internal Mini In to the track from 1)
3. Click the midi input on the chord track (like in this video)
4. Play your song and press tab to move to the next chord as soon as the Chord track detected the first chord
Note, make sure to keep the chord track window open for this to work.
:)
Interesting and thanks for sharing but to be fair it's apples and pairs with the method in our video. If you are using Scaler our method doesn't require the creation of a superfluous chord track. Still there are times where your method would work great!
This workflow translate the same for the new iPad scaler ios?! 🤯
the tab key function did not work for me. is that in the default keyboard settings? or is that custom? what key function is tab for you sir?
Just the tab key on your Mac keyboard. Maybe try and ensure Logic is in focus (click on the background somewhere) and make sure you are on the chord track. Follow Davide's video closely should be no problem. Hope that helps.
Never knew about SCALER …where is the best place to purchase ?
Plugin Boutique. It is by far my favorite plugin for production and it’s very inexpensive.
Available exclusively at Plugin Boutique. Link in the description above. Hope that helps.
Not finding scaler in my logic plugins?
can you do this with Ableton 12 melodic techno thanks
my scaler does not work "DAW SYNC ON" in the Bossa nova section. played one bar and one bar.... do you have any ideas?
Hi, difficult to assist you hear but please post over at forum.scalerplugin.com where there are several thousand users and the devs whom can assist.
@@SchoolofSynthesis Thanks for your comment. I changed the bar setting in the menu. it seems to work
Why is Logics chord track different than cubase, studio one or anything else?
I was waiting for a chord track in Logic that can be controlled by Scaler for so long, but I was hoping it would be a little more intuitive. It could be easily if Logic allowed drag and drop from a MIDI track to the chord track (or from the Scaler plug-in directly :) And if it was also possible to assign instrument tracks and audio tracks to the chord track instead of just copying static chords on top of your existing MIDI pattern. It is already pretty cool, but could be a lot more powerful and I hope it will be with one of the next updates as this is nothing magical. Especially compared to what is already possible now.
What does the C stand for in the Signature field?? You play the notes in G but about it it says C on the gray line. I get confused. Thanks
In this instance Logic's Key Signature is not really being used to transpose anything so it's not relevant here and doesn't;t effect anything. You can always right click the chords and Analyse Key Signature
@@SchoolofSynthesis Thanks, it worked fine yesterday to insert the chords on the track, today not working and I am doing everything right! I rewatched the video many times to be sure, but the track chord not reading the chord data from Scaler. EDIT: Had to clikc twice on the notes in Scaler to catch the notes into the track chord. Alao restarted Logic//Edit 2: not working to insert the midi chords
@schoolofsynthesis I purchased the Scaler 2 but I didn't get a license so I can't play with it. Please assist.
The only place you can purchase Scaler 2 from is Plugin Boutique. Please go back to Plugin Boutique and they will assist you. Your licence will be there under 'My Account'
😎👍
The Chord track in Logic Pro only retrieves 4 notes out of the 5 chord notes sent by ScalerCont2... Am I missing something? (i am new in the music world)
No, Logic just needs to make a chord from it. Same chord just voiced differently in that it may remove a repeated note for example.
Scaler means even fewer people
Will
Learn how to play the instrument. I get it. It is a crap ton of work to learn theory and all these cool chords and their cool
Voicing and how they voice lead from one to the other.
Can we get a similar implementation in Ableton pls?
No
there is no scaler 2 on my logic 11
the bass didnt change when you changed the chord
Also wtf when I drag from the chord track to scaler (because scaler doesnt follow logic) it plays totally diffrent chords???
Do you have BIND Midi on or DAW Sync On? For more help please head over to forum.scalerplugin.com
@@SchoolofSynthesis I've searched that forum and did not find a solution to this problem?
Do you have a link to a post with this solution?
I've tried to have both bind and sync on/off + different combos... ?
So, there's a bug cause Scaler is supposed to be able to follow Logic?
Any good help or link to an easy solution would be appreciated. Thanks.
For those hating on these new tools for making music, please consider that this has been going on for decades. This dread was aimed at the Mellotron, synthesizers, drum machines, an sequencers to name a few. “It’s the end of self expression and musicians are being replaced by technology! “ All art is about making choices, and these tools give everyone more options. I would argue that music goes stale with out new instruments and tools. There will be people that just hit play and crank out generic uninspired music, but there are people who do that every day on “real” instruments. I personally am inspired to push the boundaries of what can be done with these tools. Think out side of the box. Think Aphex Twin, J Dilla, The Beatles, DJ Kool Herc, Prince, Brian Eno, Wendy Carlos, Imogen Heap………
We agree, the wider the community that can be introduced to creativity the better for the world. Besides, you can never make an amazing tune without genuine human input. There's always aversion to new technology it's just part of the cycle of creativity and modernity
Brian Eno and the like didn’t have tools that were friendly to their imaginations. Unintuitive approaches are sometimes necessary to force an instrument to create what the imagination hears. Think of the snare drum sample in the Fine Young Cannibals’ “She Drives Me Crazy”. That was an endeavor to make. I think scaler is primarily for people who want to make music that sounds like music they are used to hearing.
I'm always interested in what you can do with technology that people haven't thought of doing yet.
- Brian Eno
I'm very good with technology, I always have been, and with machines in general. They seem not threatening like other people find them, but a source of fun and amusement.
- Brian Eno
You can't do anything interesting with cutting-edge technology except not make it cutting-edge.
- Brian Eno
Video of Brian Eno demonstrating an unconventional way to use Logic Pro scripts to get more from a conventional drum loop.
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After this moment that everybody is musicians 😂😂
For the love of god. I've been on Big Sur since early 2022. Apple wants you to have macOS 13.5 to update logic. From the looks of it, the software update is only offering 14.5. obviously, we will lose Pro Tools and every other plugin if we go right to 14.5. How do people in the industry handle this? Does anyone know a safe place to download Ventura 13.5? I can't find it through Apple. This is a nightmare.
Holy shit is that fiddly. That is a lot of steps. You should be able to create a midi track with the midi instrument you want, then find the cord as illustrated in the instrument and just drag it to the timeline.
Si now you can be a musician without being a musician 😮💨
Well, maybe we should say people who use this proficiently are not musicians but rather “Scalers”.
Need the Scaler 2 update for IOS, with the new features.
only one chord in each bar?
You can have as many chords as you need just need to resize them!
That's fantastic. They missed a trick by not adding chord detecion ala Cubase
This is complicated. I would like to have on logic a plugin called for example Styler which can play arranger like Yamaha Korg etc styles. It would be very useful and make life easier.
its only great if I had one included with Logic Pro 11
Who’s making disco???
Ha! That is a very good question. Sorry when showing examples I try and get through as many genres as I can. Besides, I said 'Disco-ish'! 😊
Me...toured the world with it. I also make Bossa Nova.
@@Weathermane79 nice I was just playing. But now I’m excited to hear what you make.
A major flaw is that you can’t record your chords into chord track.
Wild
scaler 2 ＞＞＞＞＞＞ lp11's thing
wow this is crazy, literally no creative input at all.. this is not how making music was meant to be
A great way to show the world your talent and your soul. NOT!