I hate to be that guy, but for all the people who are saying this is difficult and stupid. I got a break it to you, if you’re gonna use this appropriately you will need to have a little bit of music theory understanding. You can also place points where the key changes in the song to adjust to the chords that you need. You can make prog metal with this which changes timing and keys throughout the track. If you’re unable to get the cord changer to do what you want it’s probably because you don’t understand another portion of logic. You really need to utilize this new tool with all the ones that we had in order to get the full potential.
Well said! This is a very powerful tool in experienced hands. There is some obvious janky things I notice that could be updated, and add more functionality and intuitive gui is something I wouldn’t be opposed to. This is still sick though! But yeah anybody who thinks you can press 3 buttons and get the exact results you want is shooting themselves in the foot
Agreed, the more you know the quicker you'll be able to achieve what you're after, but if you're just getting started it can be a cool learning tool to try out different chords and see what appeals to you (there'll just be more trial and error involved). Cheers Georges
Chord tracks have been in the most basic music recorders and drum machines for decades. You are totally right. Music Theory goes a long way to help a musician get things done.
This really starts to show how useful and CREATIVE this feature is. Most tutorials on the chord track jumped in on day one with a very incomplete set of possibilities. Thanks. Nice and clear.
Brilliant! Thank you for that straightforward and inspiring tutorial. I’ll be on the Logic 11 Chord Track for the next 12 hours straight thanks to you.
You’re most welcome! I just released a new video going in-depth on the keyboard session player if you’re interested. th-cam.com/video/TvERMBvcahY/w-d-xo.html Cheers Georges
Great stuff, and I see since the last video of yours that I watched, your content creation has stepped up a bit as well :) I know this is harder work than what we see as end users, so just know your work is appreciated and used by a lot of people, whether they comment here or not.
Exactly what I wanted to know and far more. I could spend all my time learning how to use Logic...or be creative. Despite being a Garageband user forever, I'm struggling in Logic Pro. Every day I watch Logic Pro tutorials. I don't know how much of it sinks in. This was where I was getting hung up with zero knowledge. Thanks.
If you watch some basic videos on getting started and work your way through the parts of the manual that are pertinent to you, it will become much easier. The manual actually is very well-written. Logic is a very powerful and useful program that is worth learning if you're going to make music.
Keep forcing yourself to use Logic… I wouldn’t overwhelm yourself looking at tons of vids on it. Create a small practice song and then keep trying out one new tool or setting each day and really dive into it… over time you will notice a lot of practical knowledge sinking in. It’s well worth the effort! I converted from GarageBand around 6 years ago and still am learning new concepts… it’s a super rich DAW. And don’t let anyone kid you: the stock plugins are extremely powerful as are the stock synths (even owning a variety of the top-tier paid synths like Artiria and U-He Zebra etc) I find I can pull up a Logic Stock synth and get incredible patches from those. Same for effects. PS - Don’t forget about the Help Document that comes with Logic… it answers 99% of anything you can think of. And I also keep the “?” tool enabled at all times with gives you instantaneous info on anything you are using. Best of luck to ya! 👍🏻
another cool thing is to create an alias of the session player to use on multiple tracks. this way you can change the chord track on the fly and everything will follow. then you can mute session player if you want. of course you can just change the AU instrument in the session player itself and create multiple players.. but just another method. thanks for the vid.
NIce thank you been messing all weekend with the new features this helped a lot - I also found scaler2 that works with L11 and JFC my work flow just got cut down by 70%
Sorry if this was discussed in the tutorial but is there a way to convert a midi region into a chord track region? I am talking about a midi region that has no chord labels. In the tutorial where he just drags & drops the region onto the chord track the chords in the region are already labelled. What I am asking for is logic to analyze the midi region, identify the chords and then create a chord track region with that information
As far as I can tell that isn’t an option yet unfortunately. I was hoping for this too. Hopefully they’ll add it in the next update. Seems like a no brainer. Cheers Georges
@@knuckledustermusic Yeah, that would make my job much easier cause I prefer to play things in. Come to think about it though, logic's chord detection system can be pretty stupid at times and has little context awareness, so they might need to update it too for this idea to work.
Not that I can find, but a work around is to input your chords (every measure) and then select all the chords, right click, select "Double Chord Rhythm" which will shorten the length of the chords. Cheers Georges
Hello Goerges! great tutorial!! Is there a way to drag and drop an existing piano region from an older logic session into the global track in order to be able to have the session players follow? It's been very cumbersome to recreate my chord progressions in the global chord track. It would be great if you could record directly to the global chord track!
Unfortunately this isn't a feature yet. You can play in a chord and Logic Pro will analyze it. So you could play your existing MIDI region bar by bar and have Logic analyze the chords.
Would it be useful to have instacomposer 2, rapid composer, Chris potion, etc… to get the chords from my sing I can’t remember . Older song. I know scaler 2 will do it. Will logic make the 8 notes reading my track if not how to do?
Alright bro, I have you to blame (and my weakness for the best stuff) for my recent purchase of Logic Pro 11.1. There are quite a few reviews out there saying it crashes all the time and whatnot - I either haven't pushed it that hard or the problems are solved. I moved the libraries to my external drive (same one I use for videos) which was many Gb's of data - whew. Now I need to learn how to use it! M2 Mini with only 8 Gb RAM so that could cause a few hiccups I suppose. But plenty of processing power.
Welcome aboard! 😂 I've experienced a few minor bugs and glitches but no all out crashes. You're system should be good unless you use a lot of tracks with 3rd party libraries. Let me know if any questions come up. Cheers Georges
@@knuckledustermusic I recently grabbed some Unison MIDI packs but don't want to go overboard on packs and other things until I'm more comfy with the LP interface. Which, the more I use it, the more I remember my GarageBand days so some things come back and work. Other things are still far beyond my knowledge so I just let them sit for now...
@@chipsawdust5816 ya I'd suggest having some fun with the Session Musicians in Logic Pro. You'll likely not feel the need to add any more MIDI packs. Enjoy! Cheers Georges
@@knuckledustermusic There just so happens to be this guy on YT who has some videos on Logic Pro session drummers and guitar. Hmmm - is it any wonder I have them queued up as we speak? :)
chord track is so un logical im so frustrated after 30 minutes still can't make what I want....i wont make the chords that i want at the place that i want..its just so confusing....regards
Hi Erik, if you want to adjust the timing of the chord track check out 5:43 of this video (th-cam.com/video/QQVkks5P8Cg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=XUKFNlQsg424UbhX&t=343) or if you want to input your own rhythm using the session players check out the 7:02 mark of this video (th-cam.com/video/98cNE5WcY9w/w-d-xo.htmlsi=oFbsz3bRWNPJMJYh). I hope that helps! Cheers Georges
Totally agree... Logic could have waited to release such a dumb implementation, and released it when you could do it both ways ie create your chords and drag those chords to the chord track and voila.... it will be inevitable at some point anyways....
Ezkeys ez drummer 3 or captain chords epic is this session drum and bass ai better? To get chord progression scaler 2 to read my audio and ai writes drums bass groove? Than duck it?
You can copy the chord track and then paste it into a new project. Unfortunately you can't currently import the chord track like you can with other track settings.
I love the idea of the feature, but the ux is nearly unusable if the chords aren’t nicely 1 chord per bar. Does anyone have any tips? It can’t be used for songwriting because of how clunky it is but just good enough to struggle through if the idea is already composed.
My experience is different. It works very well where chords change off beat and not on the bar lines. In the cases Ive used it, the session players is changing pressing and accents in aa good musical way when you drag the chord change around.
Yes you're right and I'm glad they brought it back and integrated the session musicians with it. I used to create a chord track using blank midi regions as a guide after they got rid of the original chord track.
For me, when I first switch to 6/8 it'll keep the current chord track as if it were 4/4. If you delete the chord track and start again then they line up at the beginning of each 6/8 bar. You can move any chord to make it line up wherever you'd like. I hope that helps. Cheers Georges
@@knuckledustermusic Thanks for the reply. That's weird. Every time I've tried, I've done it with a track that started in 6/8. I'll keep messing around with it.
@@knuckledustermusic It's a great feature. One thing I did with it (I haven't had a chance to watch all of your video, so you might talk about this) is that if you have the chord track set up, you can make a bass session player to play the simplest bass line ever, just whole notes, convert that to midi, and now you have a template to copy for basic midi stuff like pads, etc.
George im sure you realize Apple logic has dropped the bomb on this one. i tip may hat at your atempt to try to explain the use of this mess. It is totaly tedious and lack of productivity to be limited to inserting chords manually one chord at a time for an entire song. using this chord track for session players is both innovative and idiotic at the same time.
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I hate to be that guy, but for all the people who are saying this is difficult and stupid. I got a break it to you, if you’re gonna use this appropriately you will need to have a little bit of music theory understanding. You can also place points where the key changes in the song to adjust to the chords that you need. You can make prog metal with this which changes timing and keys throughout the track. If you’re unable to get the cord changer to do what you want it’s probably because you don’t understand another portion of logic. You really need to utilize this new tool with all the ones that we had in order to get the full potential.
Well said! This is a very powerful tool in experienced hands. There is some obvious janky things I notice that could be updated, and add more functionality and intuitive gui is something I wouldn’t be opposed to. This is still sick though! But yeah anybody who thinks you can press 3 buttons and get the exact results you want is shooting themselves in the foot
Agreed, the more you know the quicker you'll be able to achieve what you're after, but if you're just getting started it can be a cool learning tool to try out different chords and see what appeals to you (there'll just be more trial and error involved).
Cheers
Georges
@@knuckledustermusicthat’s how I’m using it! I was a drummer primarily before starting to use logic, so this tool is exciting for me 😊
Excellent thank you.
Chord tracks have been in the most basic music recorders and drum machines for decades.
You are totally right.
Music Theory goes a long way to help a musician get things done.
This really starts to show how useful and CREATIVE this feature is. Most tutorials on the chord track jumped in on day one with a very incomplete set of possibilities. Thanks. Nice and clear.
You're most welcome! Thanks for the kind words. I'm glad you found it helpful.
Cheers
Georges
Thank you so much! This is exactly what I was looking for. Your presentation was so clear and easy to follow.
@@brandenhart you’re most welcome! I’m glad you found what you were looking for.
Cheers
Georges
Just saw this video in my recommandations. So glad you're getting traction, George! Keep making regular Logic Pro 11 content to surf on that wave!
Thanks Antoine! I hope you’re doing well!
Thank you for this simple way of teaching giving a clear idea.
@@SuranjanaRecords1903 you’re most welcome!
This is the most amazing video I've seen this year. You are amazing.
@@ehabhaddad thank you kindly 😁
Brilliant! Thank you for that straightforward and inspiring tutorial. I’ll be on the Logic 11 Chord Track for the next 12 hours straight thanks to you.
You’re most welcome! I just released a new video going in-depth on the keyboard session player if you’re interested.
th-cam.com/video/TvERMBvcahY/w-d-xo.html
Cheers
Georges
Great stuff, and I see since the last video of yours that I watched, your content creation has stepped up a bit as well :)
I know this is harder work than what we see as end users, so just know your work is appreciated and used by a lot of people, whether they comment here or not.
Thank you, it's much appreciated!
Exactly what I wanted to know and far more. I could spend all my time learning how to use Logic...or be creative. Despite being a Garageband user forever, I'm struggling in Logic Pro. Every day I watch Logic Pro tutorials. I don't know how much of it sinks in. This was where I was getting hung up with zero knowledge. Thanks.
You’re welcome! Glad to hear you found it helpful! Let me know what else you’re struggling with.
Cheers
Georges
If you watch some basic videos on getting started and work your way through the parts of the manual that are pertinent to you, it will become much easier. The manual actually is very well-written. Logic is a very powerful and useful program that is worth learning if you're going to make music.
Keep forcing yourself to use Logic… I wouldn’t overwhelm yourself looking at tons of vids on it. Create a small practice song and then keep trying out one new tool or setting each day and really dive into it… over time you will notice a lot of practical knowledge sinking in. It’s well worth the effort! I converted from GarageBand around 6 years ago and still am learning new concepts… it’s a super rich DAW. And don’t let anyone kid you: the stock plugins are extremely powerful as are the stock synths (even owning a variety of the top-tier paid synths like Artiria and U-He Zebra etc) I find I can pull up a Logic Stock synth and get incredible patches from those. Same for effects.
PS - Don’t forget about the Help Document that comes with Logic… it answers 99% of anything you can think of. And I also keep the “?” tool enabled at all times with gives you instantaneous info on anything you are using. Best of luck to ya! 👍🏻
Nice job breaking it down, George. Thank you. It's a great tool.
You're welcome Scott!
Cheers
Georges
Sweet love finding new dedicate logic channels! Thanks for sharing and helping!!
You're welcome! Glad you found the channel!
Cheers
Georges
Thank you for tutorial, cant wait to try it out. This thing plays keyboards better than I ever will.
You're welcome! I’m sure the keyboard player will be helpful for a lot of folks.
Cheers
Georges
Thanks. Very well explained.
@@haroldboodoo2788 thank you! You’re welcome!
wow that was fantastic thanks! such a great new tool and thanks so much for doing such a clear constructive video. cheers!
@@hyde93x35 you’re welcome! Thanks for the kind words.
Cheers
Georges
Clearly presented….and very helpful. Thank you!
You’re welcome! I’m glad you enjoyed it.
Cheers
Georges
Best tutorial on Session Player I've seen. Thanks!
Thank you! You’re most welcome!
Cheers
Georges
another cool thing is to create an alias of the session player to use on multiple tracks. this way you can change the chord track on the fly and everything will follow. then you can mute session player if you want. of course you can just change the AU instrument in the session player itself and create multiple players.. but just another method. thanks for the vid.
Thanks!
@@brandenhart thanks so much!
Hola estuvo genial el video como lo explicaste ! me va a yudar mucho ! voy a seguir mirando tus futuros videos, muchas gracias !!!
Gracias!
Excellent video...helped tons...thanks!
Glad to hear it! You're welcome!
Cheers
Georges
NIce thank you been messing all weekend with the new features this helped a lot - I also found scaler2 that works with L11 and JFC my work flow just got cut down by 70%
You’re welcome! I’m glad you found it helpful. Scaler looks like a cool tool. I’m going to check it out.
Cheers
Georges
Thank you
You're most welcome!
Great tutorial, thanks
Thank you! You're most welcome!
Sorry if this was discussed in the tutorial but is there a way to convert a midi region into a chord track region? I am talking about a midi region that has no chord labels. In the tutorial where he just drags & drops the region onto the chord track the chords in the region are already labelled. What I am asking for is logic to analyze the midi region, identify the chords and then create a chord track region with that information
As far as I can tell that isn’t an option yet unfortunately. I was hoping for this too. Hopefully they’ll add it in the next update. Seems like a no brainer.
Cheers
Georges
@@knuckledustermusic Yeah, that would make my job much easier cause I prefer to play things in. Come to think about it though, logic's chord detection system can be pretty stupid at times and has little context awareness, so they might need to update it too for this idea to work.
good job ,thanks from France :)
Merci! Glad you enjoyed the video.
Cheers
Georges
great video mate
Thank you!
Thanks a lot
@@corinadelorme5766 you’re most welcome!
Thanks, Great job
Thanks! You’re most welcome!
thanks sir
You’re welcome!
Can you change the tab so it moves by 2 beats if you. song changes chords every 2 beats instead of every measure? Thanks for a great tutorial.
Not that I can find, but a work around is to input your chords (every measure) and then select all the chords, right click, select "Double Chord Rhythm" which will shorten the length of the chords.
Cheers
Georges
Hello Goerges! great tutorial!! Is there a way to drag and drop an existing piano region from an older logic session into the global track in order to be able to have the session players follow? It's been very cumbersome to recreate my chord progressions in the global chord track. It would be great if you could record directly to the global chord track!
Unfortunately this isn't a feature yet. You can play in a chord and Logic Pro will analyze it. So you could play your existing MIDI region bar by bar and have Logic analyze the chords.
Would it be useful to have instacomposer 2, rapid composer, Chris potion, etc… to get the chords from my sing I can’t remember . Older song. I know scaler 2 will do it. Will logic make the 8 notes reading my track if not how to do?
Alright bro, I have you to blame (and my weakness for the best stuff) for my recent purchase of Logic Pro 11.1.
There are quite a few reviews out there saying it crashes all the time and whatnot - I either haven't pushed it that hard or the problems are solved.
I moved the libraries to my external drive (same one I use for videos) which was many Gb's of data - whew.
Now I need to learn how to use it!
M2 Mini with only 8 Gb RAM so that could cause a few hiccups I suppose. But plenty of processing power.
Welcome aboard! 😂 I've experienced a few minor bugs and glitches but no all out crashes. You're system should be good unless you use a lot of tracks with 3rd party libraries.
Let me know if any questions come up.
Cheers
Georges
@@knuckledustermusic I recently grabbed some Unison MIDI packs but don't want to go overboard on packs and other things until I'm more comfy with the LP interface. Which, the more I use it, the more I remember my GarageBand days so some things come back and work. Other things are still far beyond my knowledge so I just let them sit for now...
@@chipsawdust5816 ya I'd suggest having some fun with the Session Musicians in Logic Pro. You'll likely not feel the need to add any more MIDI packs.
Enjoy!
Cheers
Georges
@@knuckledustermusic There just so happens to be this guy on YT who has some videos on Logic Pro session drummers and guitar. Hmmm - is it any wonder I have them queued up as we speak? :)
@@chipsawdust5816 keyboards too! 🤣
Wonder how this compares to Cubase chord track.
The chord track in Cubase is better as you can drop audio on gthe chord track and extract the chords, no doubt Apple will add that at some point.
chord track is so un logical im so frustrated after 30 minutes still can't make what I want....i wont make the chords that i want at the place that i want..its just so confusing....regards
Hi Erik, if you want to adjust the timing of the chord track check out 5:43 of this video (th-cam.com/video/QQVkks5P8Cg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=XUKFNlQsg424UbhX&t=343) or if you want to input your own rhythm using the session players check out the 7:02 mark of this video (th-cam.com/video/98cNE5WcY9w/w-d-xo.htmlsi=oFbsz3bRWNPJMJYh).
I hope that helps!
Cheers
Georges
Totally agree... Logic could have waited to release such a dumb implementation, and released it when you could do it both ways ie create your chords and drag those chords to the chord track and voila.... it will be inevitable at some point anyways....
So if I switch over from ableton can I do this lay down drums and bass fast on my almost finished song? Load in same free plugin vst instruments?
Can logic read keys from audio if my track like scaler 2? Is that called transpose?
Ezkeys ez drummer 3 or captain chords epic is this session drum and bass ai better? To get chord progression scaler 2 to read my audio and ai writes drums bass groove? Than duck it?
why cant it just tranlate my midi chords to the chord track? how could the developers overlook this needed function?
My first thought exactly!!
🤞this gets added in the next update.
100 percent
Is there a way to export a chord track to be used in a different project?
You can copy the chord track and then paste it into a new project. Unfortunately you can't currently import the chord track like you can with other track settings.
I love the idea of the feature, but the ux is nearly unusable if the chords aren’t nicely 1 chord per bar. Does anyone have any tips? It can’t be used for songwriting because of how clunky it is but just good enough to struggle through if the idea is already composed.
My experience is different. It works very well where chords change off beat and not on the bar lines. In the cases Ive used it, the session players is changing pressing and accents in aa good musical way when you drag the chord change around.
Actually, this a very old feature from Logic 7 that has been brought back and improved.
Yes you're right and I'm glad they brought it back and integrated the session musicians with it. I used to create a chord track using blank midi regions as a guide after they got rid of the original chord track.
@@knuckledustermusic I used it to make Apple loops follow chord progressions.
i'm probably missing something obvious, but when I try this with a song that's in 6/8, it doesn't like up to the bars.
For me, when I first switch to 6/8 it'll keep the current chord track as if it were 4/4. If you delete the chord track and start again then they line up at the beginning of each 6/8 bar. You can move any chord to make it line up wherever you'd like.
I hope that helps.
Cheers
Georges
@@knuckledustermusic Thanks for the reply. That's weird. Every time I've tried, I've done it with a track that started in 6/8. I'll keep messing around with it.
@@jimmywellington I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s still some bugs to be worked out.
@@knuckledustermusic It's a great feature. One thing I did with it (I haven't had a chance to watch all of your video, so you might talk about this) is that if you have the chord track set up, you can make a bass session player to play the simplest bass line ever, just whole notes, convert that to midi, and now you have a template to copy for basic midi stuff like pads, etc.
I IS very frustrating, you have to manually enter every single chord and progression of the song and you cant transpose
6:40 shows transpose.
George im sure you realize Apple logic has dropped the bomb on this one. i tip may hat at your atempt to try to explain the use of this mess. It is totaly tedious and lack of productivity to be limited to inserting chords manually one chord at a time for an entire song. using this chord track for session players is both innovative and idiotic at the same time.
waste of time to spend all day typing in chords just to get a bass guitar to play along with me.