Last year, I made the switch from Hex Logic to Venzo. I've noticed that Venzo pads tend to last much longer, maintain their shape better, and are easier to clean for some reason. Additionally, I really appreciate the cone-shaped design, especially on the 5 and 6-inch pads. This design feature provides a safety margin when working on tight areas, preventing the backing plate from causing any damage. The slight increase in diameter of the pad edge compared to the backing plate offers a buffer zone, which is particularly useful on front bumpers with steep angles. When it comes to polishing, I've found that using the white Venzo pad is effective on soft to moderate surfaces, while the yellow one works better on harder clear coats. Great video, Jon!
Last year, I switched from the Hex Logic to Rupes. I find the Rupes pads last much longer, hold their shape and clean up much easier for some reason. I also really like to cone shaped design, especially on the 3 inch pads. When you’re working on tight areas, there is safety margin keeping the backing plate away from doing damage. That small amount of the pad edge being larger diameter than the backing plate provides a margin of error, especially on front bumpers with steep angles. For polishing, I find using the white Rupes pad works on soft to moderate, and the yellow for harder clear coats. Great video Jon!
Great video this one! Excellent info as always. As a DA8 user, if I am being tight and don’t want to spend the money on flex pads, which would you recommend as a “second” choice? After watching this video I am thinking the rupes, but not sure!
Really appreciate your work. As a home detailer I have just bought the PXE to do my front bumper and wings and expect to get a larger flex polisher at some point soon. Still to decide on pads and was looking at the Scholl and Flex, wanting 75 and 25. As you mentioned a little while back, the Flex colour coding has changed and fewer grades are available. Wanting to try SRP on my black A6 initially and wanting a finishing pad, but also get into a system that covers 125, 75 and 25. Have you managed to understand anymore about the new Flex or given it is a while since this original video, do you have any current thoughts on best system to buy today. Thanks
Hey John! in your opinion what would you say is the most effective way of cleaning pads? I'm a weekend warrior so to speak and I currently have some of the chem guys hex-logic pads (using alongside their torq DA polisher and Koch cutting polish) Also how long would you say a pad can go before say needing to clean it/switch pads? Many thanks.
scrub it out with a brush (rupes claw is nice) after each set on the machine... After 10-15 sets roughly change... dunno. its just a finger in the wind, because its more down to the abrasive and the clearcoat your cuting how the pad behaves... You also dont want to overheat the pad because it can crumble up or rip away from backing plate... you can after 10-15 sets take pad off and flush it out with cold water to cool it. I have done a video on this subject I think called how many pads do you need to polish a car where I discuss all this. watch this video Sam th-cam.com/video/bsOaQi-hcw4/w-d-xo.html
Hi Jon, so much information to take in. I have just purchased a Das8 with 5 and 3 inch backing plates. Trying to buy Flex pads in both sizes is seeming to be very hard. Am I OK changing the size of the backing plates to either 5.5 or 6 inch plates for better pad choice? Also.... What compounds best suit the flex pads? It will mainly be used on a silver metallic Jaguar XF. Many thanks in advance, Garry. P. S. Just signed up to the IOA Course 👍
Garry so Koch H9 F6 M3 (high cut, med cut, finishing) are what I tend to recomend combos up with flex purples and oranges. stick with a 5 inch plate and 3 inc plate for your DAS8 mate. use with 5 inch and 3 inch flex pads. on the main channel look at my DA15 and DA12 review (1 video reviewnig both tools) I show the pads. If in2detailing are out of stock try slims. Polishing Pads tinyurl.com/y8j8nhsp Polishes tinyurl.com/y9yd5zzx
Love the channel. However, this vid has fried my head even more on what pads to buy. I recently bought the das 6 pro as you had recommended it in an older vid. You also recommended the chemical guys hex logic range (green)and scholls s20 black. These recommendations were for newbs like myself. For yourself Jon or anyone that knows, I have a 2008 CRV that I want to work on. I want to do it in 1, rather than cut and polish. Would you still recommend these these to do the job. Thanks in advance
Great overview as always. It also depends a lot on the vehicles you most often work on. On Asian soft clear coat you can almost do a full correction and finish with Rupes yellow and go with the white for showcar finish. But if you need a bit more cut you will ruin the car with the Rupes Green. Scholl cutting works better, then followed up with Rupes and it's perfect. So, sometimes you need to combine a couple of brands. It just requires testing.
its the technology of spiderpads that help with softer paints, flushes the residue inside and keeps surface cleaner for sensitive paints, test rupes yellow vs orange spider neo and you will see.
Hi John. Mate I love your videos never stop! May I ask a quick question. I've seen all your videos and obviously not learnt a thing! I've polished my motor bike, with a Rupes yellow pad on a DA, and Cartech 9000 finishing polish. The paint only has light swirls and very few scratches, so I thought a one step would work. I have had to do nearly 3 sets to show (very good) results, but when looking with my light pen after it shows those haze lines coming off the light (sorry don't know the technical term).... is that me putting them in with my fluffy microfiber clothes?? I wipe off polish well, then use a little IPA, and then buff with another microfiber. What you think? Regards and thank you Jerry.
very very hard to say. it could be your not degreasing properly. so its little oil trails that look like hazey buffer trails. impossible to say whats going on. but rupes yellow pads should finish out well with a good finishing polish. and cartech should be good but Ive not used it.
Hi I'm thinking of starting to machine polish my own vehicles at home and deciding what machine ect to start with. Being a painter and decorator I own a makita BO6050J sanding machine which gives you options of both sanding styles including random, my question is could I by the polishing plate for it and use it on my vehicles instead of buying a new machine ? TIA
Thanks for sharing John! Have you ever tried the famous Buff and Shine Uro-Tec microfiber pad? One pad type for cutting (moderate), polishing and finishing ... that's sounds great for a beginner like me, isn't? I'm planning also to get the Maxshine M8S (5in & 3in backing plates) and use Turtle Wax Hybrid polish and wax (AIO, correcting and protecting in a single application). Would it be a good start?
John, you can buy the Scholls pads without the cuts. Purple pad is our go to especially with s20. We get our pads from clean and shiny think the purple pad is costing us about £8.50.
Excellent video 👍was really wanting a video on the difference between rotary and da pads. After 24yrs of using rotary I've just bought my first da and its taking time to get use to it, but it's shredding my pads? (Why? maybe you could do a video???). Bought cartec orbit pads now and much better. Can I drill a hole in normal pads to counter the heat for a da? Thanks.
Thanks Forensic Detail, I have a 2-series; hardly any correction needed. What Hex-Logic pad-set with a Das-6 would you go for & how many should I get? Want to keep the cost down as I'm only a hobbyist. As the pads are used wet anyway could I just minimize it to a couple of pads and clean as I go? I'll be sealing with fusso, apologies - quite a few questions.
ok so green or white. green will give a bit more cut, white is more for polishing. but 2 of the color you want. these pads are for use with abrasive compounds dont use them to apply fusso just spread that by hand applicator. watch these mate washing th-cam.com/video/AUytWaLtOOo/w-d-xo.html decon th-cam.com/video/9B9Cn-GeJqw/w-d-xo.html polishing th-cam.com/video/MI_m2rO-OpM/w-d-xo.html products th-cam.com/video/I7q5E8Kz-CY/w-d-xo.html
Hi Jon, I have spent literally hours trying to work out which machine pads /polish to buy. I need help!! I like the look of either Flex pads or Koch Chemie products. If you had the choice of any of their pads or compounds which would you choose for a one stage process? (I'll be using the in2detailing DA8 on a car with medium to soft paint). Cheers!
Yo Chris. theres no set piece that would be correct for any sceanrio.. in other words you might need to change it up etc.. but Flex purple pads with Koch F6 for heard to medium paints where you want to work cut a bit more.. of F6 with flex Orange pads on soft paints or to gloss up more.
I've used these foam cheap pads. Mainly look at the texture of them to determine their function. So for compounding and polishing use a medium textured pad and soft for finishing polish.
I'll never touch those SPTA pads again after one delaminated after a very very short time! I was damn lucky I have fast reflexes and pulled away before the backing pad hit the paint. Cheap crap, never again
Hello John, what are your experiences with Ford paint? SOFT or HARD What would be your recommendation for polishing pads and polishing compound?I have a 2012 Ford Fiesta. Thanks in advance and greetings from Croatia.
John - question... does the battery from the flex blower on the rack, work with the PXE Nano polisher..? I’m told it doesn’t, which is a bore. Would love to know. Great insight to pads and it’s something I should try. I’ve generally stuck with Rupes and Lake Country, so again, in need to check the Flex pads out.
Pretty sure it does not.. so they have 18v range and 10.8v range. PXE uses 10.8v XFE uses 18v blower 18v... ironically the flex workshop LED light supports 18v and 10.8
Hey Jon It’s me again 😂 What wool pad would you recommend? p.s got chemical guys pads for my 5 inch dual action & flex pads for my PXE - and flex pads have really really astonishing quality like you said! 👍
you dont really need wool ian, it builds up debry, they are never the same after you wash them. I think foam is the way to go.. on a rotary wool is nice and smooth but I just dont see the point on a DA.
I currently use the rupes pads, purely because of having rupes machines, but contemplating trying the moore car care pads, pretty sure their at a good price and do all sizes. I know you did a review of them abit back, just wondering have you played about with them abit more ?. Plus they are bringing a new range out soon also. Thanks
I have the Rupes polishers so have stuck with their pads. The yellow is superb. They’re newer wool pads are pretty amazing too especially when paired with a decent AIO for an effective one step enhancement.
Hey Jon. You will help me mate. The man I trust. Have you touched ford race red solid paint? Seems soft as I was able to get some things done by hand even with DJ lime prime cleaner. My car is in good condition - double bucket all the time, always waxed. It has 2yrs, 26kkm on the odometer. Only love marks and minor signs. Just bought a cheap 15mm/720w machine and aiming in minimal correction, jeweling to get max gu. Carpro reflect and soft carpro pads? :) what would you recommend? total newbie, hold DA foe 10 minutes in my life.
abrasives. Koch H9 F6 and M3 you need nothing beyond these. And Flex purples for cut or single stage hard paint.. Or flex orange for finishing polish or single stage soft paint.. thats it mate honestly
@@ForensicDetailing thanks a lot. I will buy a small m3.02. I see Flex pads are not available in poland. My shop strongly recommends lake country ccs da white. they also have koch pads and I can live with the price. If I would go for such combination for super-light onestep, and have megs ultimate compound and some medium pad if I need to remove something. What would you say? Have you had a chance to work with ford race red paint, hands on or heard any solid opinion on it? Stay safe and healthy Jon!
yes its a no from me. have a watch of the main channel video "the best polishing pads" problem with shine mate pads are if its chinese made I will only really pay about 50% of what the european pads cost, where as shinemate pads are roughly the same price. so thats just a personal constraint. I can get european made rupes pads cheaper and they are better quality.
@@ForensicDetailing You should try the shinemate yellow flat pad for cutting and red flat pad for polishing.. they are awesome..much durable than rupes..
top draw jon. im yet to try the koch pads but hearing lots of good things about them. will have to bite the bullet and get a couple to try out. keep up the great work pal.
Really helpful video Jon. I’ve started out on the Koch system but now that I have a mini rotary in addition to the XCE, the flex line up is making so much sense. Have only used the purple ones so far but they felt really good to use
Hi John, I've decided to go with a DA8 as I'm new to machine polishing. Now....I've decided to do a 1 stage polish with Scholl Concepts S20 Black. I've chose to go with the Koch Chemie pads as they also do the 3'' pads too. I will be using it on an 18 year old Audi TT. Could you recommend which Koch Chemie pad to use with S20 Black please?
I used S20 with chemical guys green pad as a one stage polishing, as an amateur I was completely happy with the results and more importantly I had no problems or disasters.
It’s Flex all the way for me. I’ve been using the PXE for the last couple of months and the Flex pads are incredibly durable. I tried the Rupes equivalents and they tend to crumble fairly quickly. I’ve just bought the XFE as well so I’ll be using nothing but Flex pads with that too. Having just those two polishers pretty much has me covered. The charger accommodates both batteries. It’s just a shame the PXE batteries can’t be used on the XFE but I can live with that as the two polishers are fantastic bits of kit. Jon, thanks for the recommendation. I can’t see me needing anything else now (but I do want the new Flex light now!).
Been using 3M pads and polishes on a rotary for years but I'm replacing when needed with Koch Chemi polishes and Flex pads. The XFE is definitely on the wish list.
Lake Country orange pad for me! Got convinced by Brian at Apex Detailing to try it and it's awesome. I only look after our own cars so can't comment too much on durability but they certainly do a great job coupled with single stage/AIO Secret Weapon by Auto Fanatic.
Great video, I have a DAS pro plus which is a long throw, I have purchased 2 chemical guys hex pads, not the quantum version with the hole in the middle. Would the standard ones still be ok to use? Or would it cause a problem?
That groove on the outside of the Koch-Chemie might be to protect the paint if you roll the pad over it reduces the pressure because that specific spot has “less backing”.
looks like they changed their pads. red cut, purple middle black finish. but also DA cone shape. when they do this I get tempted to throw the lot of their stuff in the bin and go use other brands. because I build my system around what they had before. their old pad was good on force rotation and rotary. very very annoying. Im a diva, and stuff like this triggers me and make me think they dont know what they are doing. www.flex-tools.com/en/accessories/accessories-for-polishers
I remember the older video.witch icluded also those cheap spta pads. Have you ever tried spta wool da.pads? It would.br interesting. Again great video John sir
Hey Jon @forensic Unplugged since you made this video I've noticed tge koch chemie pads have dropped in price and some are cheaper than the flex one , question.. let's say there the same price which one is better flex pads or koch chemie pads in your opinion... Also what pads do you use for your 50mm aps attachment on flex pxe cordless , wish one company made all the sizes so its easier 😔
I use flex pads for everything mate. mainly purples and oranges. the flex purple is a bit softer than the koch high cutting pad which is very course. and koch dont have the full size range. so I just use flex for everything. getting size requirements is the primary thing.
@@forensicunplugged4295 yh your right but i cant seem to find the flex 2" pads ,where you buying your 50mm (2" flex pads) from? I can only see 1" 3" 5" 6" it's missing the 2" pads for the 50mm aps flex pxe backing plate 😭 Also would u use red flex pads 🤔
@@forensicunplugged4295 oh I'm presumed you also had 2" flex pads for the APS 50mm backing plate your reviewed on the channel because you said you use flex pads for everything , I'm guessing now you don't use the 50mm backing plate so don't have 2" pads? Also would you recommend the red flex pad or will orange be good enough ?
Ok John I thought I was confused before but I'm definitely confused now but I like to watch a video couple of times to get my head around it got a brand new car last year silver Octavia Skoda bloody hell the paint is soft isn't it not like my old Vauxhall but obviously they've started using water-based paints I have and polished the car last year when I bought it and sealed it .i looked after it paint work it is immaculate but the car is a year old now well actually it is about 18 months old since it was made going to give it a Polish with a machine which I hope to buy a Daz do action after watching your videos I need obviously to plates and I will buy upmarket pads but my question is if I'm only going to polish the car once a year wouldn't a rotary be better with different backing plates or am I asking to get myself into a whole load of trouble(((((( rotary or DA going to have to watch this video again and take notes on a pen and paper but as usual great video, and I have used Chinese stuff guys don't bother go European the Chinese stuff just falls apart and damages paintwork
I would love for you to take a look at the Americana Global pads. They seem to be really recommended by a lot of pros, and one key element in their design are the holes they run for cooling so that the pads stay cooler during longer work sessions. The holes are cut like the orbital sanding sheets, that line up with the holes on the backing pads. This allows for the Americana Global pads to breathe and cool themselves while spinning and in contact with the paint. Check them out, and let us know what you think, I’m very curious of your opinion.
Hey, no problem, if they’re not in ur market then don’t worry about it. I do have a follow up, I’m just starting with my foray into more serious DIY detail work (especially since I bought some Avalon King Armor IX Ceramic Coating). To get both my cars prepped for the coating I want to do a proper job, now and going forward. I have two vehicles, a 2017 Mazda CX-9 Grand Touring, in Gunmetal Grey, and a 2020 Honda Civic Si Coupe in a kind of Pearl White (with a lot of metallic flake in it). I plan on going through the usual steps of washing, claying, iron removal, and then paint correction. For the paint correction I’m going with the Meguires M110 compound, followed by either M205 or M210. What pads would you recommend for these cars? Are they considered to have soft or hard clear coat? Should I try to remove the orange peel effect, or just go for swirl scratch removal, and not worry about the orange peel? Please let me know, if u have a moment, thanks! Just to follow up a bit with more detail. The Mazda used to be garage kept, but has been parked outside since the start of the Wuhan Flu, and the Civic has always been parked outdoors (both in Northeastern PA, which gets deep into each of the 4 seasons - meaning rain, very hot and humid, to snow and very cold and dry). This is also a heavily salted road area in the winter. Neither car has harsh defects through the paint like deep key scratches or accidents. The Mazda has a bit more general wear and tear,. Since the Civic is newer it looks like less paint damage, but under a light I see tons of swirls and scratches from car washes and general rubbing up against the car of clothes, boxes, etc.
Having had many years of car cleaning when the 'standard' was a shampoo-and-sponge, T-Cut and a paste wax, by hand with any old cloth, I've moved to 'machine polishing', which in itself is a misnomer. I went a bit mad with purchasing, and have a Kestrel DA and a Rotary and storage tubs of unused pads and backing plates from 25-180mm. What bugs me is the lack of colour-code consistency. I have Chinese pads, multi-pad Amazon buys with 20-30 of mixed sizes and surfaces, eBay bargains, no-names, big-names and it's a headache. Early on, I bought some thick, 150mm Flexi-pads, but printed on the back is 'Not suitable for DA Machines'. I have no idea why not. I'm almost yearning for the simpler days of a bucket, sponge, shampoo and a 'chammy'.
AS I am now a Flex convert the Flex pads are perfect CG Quantum pads are still good for beginners. I also think the Flexi pads range fit well on my XFE and are good VFM and quality.
Great video again John it’s flex for me too they are really awesome as I always use the rotary the purple always make light work of even the toughest clear coat 😎😎😎😎😎😎
Rupes green pads are impossible to buy now , no one has them in stock anywhere , I found like the small ones but that’s about it , seems they got some manufacturing issue or they are discontinuing them
John, awesome video. Can i ask as a beginner that is, to be honest starting out with pads and machine (mine is a Poorboys) which set(s) of pads would you recommend to try as a starter ? Having watched this, probably an open ended question but any help would be appreciated.
@@ForensicDetailing true. Was kind of interested in these waxes specifically made for certain coloured cars. Suppose its how good your prep is. Cheers.
Excellent as usual......still love the lil blue DAS and S20Black. Hard to beat, especially with the Carpro Cool Pad Wool/Microfibre pad and S2 Gold. Cuts clear like butter.
Ive heard rupes UHS (heavy cutting pad) and Coarse Blue (cutting pad) are more agressif than the yellow hex logic pads that true? As well as sonax having better cut than koch chemie H9
If I was to buy the 126mm koch pad jon what backing plate would you recommend to use on my da? At the moment I have a 5 inch and use 5.5 Chemical guys..
Brilliant John! You da man! I'm just about to buy my first ever DA so I wouldn't say no to a couple for sure! I wouldn't even say no if you offered to teach me too! Lol. Of course I've watched every video you've released so I do have an idea already!
Hi I'm looking to perchance a da polishes and pads for the first time i have 3 car's but one is a 55 ford f100 hot rod with a very expensive paint job not sure to go for mains power or battery power can you help
Hi John I’m getting holograms from using the orange flex pad with koch fine cut on my rotary polisher ? Ended up using some autoglym polish by hand which solved it on my black car am I doing something wrong ? It’s a Lexus so maybe just soft paint
yes paint. its hard to buffer trail with orange soft pads and koch m3. if thats the abrasve you are using. have a watch of my videos called "the botox effect" which basically talked about what causes it. you are overheating that soft paintwork. when your using that rotary if the paintwork is getting warm to the touch then its highly likley buffer trails will appear later on. slow down the machine speeds. Koch M3 is designed to de-hollogram (to remove buffer trails its very hard to install buffer trails with it)
Jon is there way I could use my bigfoot 15 Rupes with 35mm pads? Is there any attachment? or do you need to get the nano to fix that problem? Just trying to cut down on buying machines
that aint gonna work declan.. that tiny little pad gonna just get squashed and wiggle all over the place but the machine does not support small plate size.
Declan Flaherty mate, what you say makes financial sense but not mechanical sense. When it comes to polishing with a DA, the “pattern” counts. You’ll find smaller machines with smaller backing plates for this reason. The 12/15/21mm offset isn’t conducive to effective polishing with pad sizes smaller than about 5” (125mm). To put a 35mm pad on a 15mm throw machine will create a horrendous polishing pattern which will be ineffective and create more work for yourself. Ergo different size machines exist for a reason. Different kettle of fish for rotary, only speed and ergonomics play a part. Smaller pads require higher speed and typically a smaller machine to make it easier to handle.
@@forensicunplugged4295 Thanks Jon! Yep I was thinking you would say this but I remember Brian from Apex Detail having something either he cooked up at home or something so just wanted to check.
Darn you Jon i literally bought new pads last night. Not watched yet, hopefully if the Lake County CCS pads are in this their not pants. Dare i press play ha ha. I didn't realize Scholl Concept pads where so cheap at in2detailing, i will have to try that code!
yes In my opinion I dont want to pay the same price for chinese pads as european pads, even if the company tells me they import euro foam (I dont think shine mate do could be wrong).. Im not keen on the diamond shine mate cones actually I get sling with them. their flat ones are fine. Just wish they were cheaper.
John the full line of Flex pads are hard to find in the U.S. Using your supplier in UK makes the price too high. Anyone have a good online source for all the Flex pads he recommends online in the U.S. ?
Please suggest me a Buffing pad for paste wax.. as well as to remove light wrinkles and swirl marks of my car.. i have a dual action polisher which came with a wool pad..
farecla does not have me covered on sizes I need but I have some in the box, they work well on a rotary with their flexible plate.. but I would have to buy different spot pads so thats really why I cant use them... Lake country same issue really. Megs Im not so keen on but Im overdue a revisit.
@@forensicunplugged4295 Thanks for responding ! I am looking to wet sand my car but I can only find good discs and pads for 150mm sander. Maybe you have some suggestions ?
good question. some machines has a nut in the middle of the plate which heats up. cooling is the reason pad manufacturers say this but IVe also heard its a myth and you dont need a hole in the middle.
One thing on my wish list...I wish the industry would get togather and have a standard across the industry for color coding the pads or at the very least labeling them. Idk how many times I've gone to grab a 3" pad after using a 5 or 6 and the color from this company means a heavy cut when the company you were just using an orange being medium cut, and the third company it's a polsihing pad. smh . It's a real time waster and Ifind myself sticking to one company that may well e an inferior but more expensive pad set because I have the color coding memorized and knkow exactly wht to grab and how it performs.. IS it just me?
125mm = 5 inches. 25.4mm = 1 inch. How nice it would be if all manufacturers lived by the same color codes
Not really... You learn what you use.
Last year, I made the switch from Hex Logic to Venzo. I've noticed that Venzo pads tend to last much longer, maintain their shape better, and are easier to clean for some reason. Additionally, I really appreciate the cone-shaped design, especially on the 5 and 6-inch pads. This design feature provides a safety margin when working on tight areas, preventing the backing plate from causing any damage. The slight increase in diameter of the pad edge compared to the backing plate offers a buffer zone, which is particularly useful on front bumpers with steep angles. When it comes to polishing, I've found that using the white Venzo pad is effective on soft to moderate surfaces, while the yellow one works better on harder clear coats. Great video, Jon!
Last year, I switched from the Hex Logic to Rupes. I find the Rupes pads last much longer, hold their shape and clean up much easier for some reason. I also really like to cone shaped design, especially on the 3 inch pads. When you’re working on tight areas, there is safety margin keeping the backing plate away from doing damage. That small amount of the pad edge being larger diameter than the backing plate provides a margin of error, especially on front bumpers with steep angles. For polishing, I find using the white Rupes pad works on soft to moderate, and the yellow for harder clear coats. Great video Jon!
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Great video this one! Excellent info as always. As a DA8 user, if I am being tight and don’t want to spend the money on flex pads, which would you recommend as a “second” choice? After watching this video I am thinking the rupes, but not sure!
Really appreciate your work. As a home detailer I have just bought the PXE to do my front bumper and wings and expect to get a larger flex polisher at some point soon. Still to decide on pads and was looking at the Scholl and Flex, wanting 75 and 25. As you mentioned a little while back, the Flex colour coding has changed and fewer grades are available. Wanting to try SRP on my black A6 initially and wanting a finishing pad, but also get into a system that covers 125, 75 and 25. Have you managed to understand anymore about the new Flex or given it is a while since this original video, do you have any current thoughts on best system to buy today. Thanks
Nice video mate like Always, but why are you using 2 Channels mate?
Hey John! in your opinion what would you say is the most effective way of cleaning pads? I'm a weekend warrior so to speak and I currently have some of the chem guys hex-logic pads (using alongside their torq DA polisher and Koch cutting polish) Also how long would you say a pad can go before say needing to clean it/switch pads? Many thanks.
scrub it out with a brush (rupes claw is nice) after each set on the machine... After 10-15 sets roughly change... dunno. its just a finger in the wind, because its more down to the abrasive and the clearcoat your cuting how the pad behaves... You also dont want to overheat the pad because it can crumble up or rip away from backing plate... you can after 10-15 sets take pad off and flush it out with cold water to cool it. I have done a video on this subject I think called how many pads do you need to polish a car where I discuss all this. watch this video Sam th-cam.com/video/bsOaQi-hcw4/w-d-xo.html
Forensic Unplugged amazing thanks for the reply! I’ll give it a watch and go from there thank you!
Hi Jon, so much information to take in. I have just purchased a Das8 with 5 and 3 inch backing plates. Trying to buy Flex pads in both sizes is seeming to be very hard. Am I OK changing the size of the backing plates to either 5.5 or 6 inch plates for better pad choice? Also.... What compounds best suit the flex pads? It will mainly be used on a silver metallic Jaguar XF.
Many thanks in advance,
Garry.
P. S. Just signed up to the IOA Course 👍
Garry so Koch H9 F6 M3 (high cut, med cut, finishing) are what I tend to recomend combos up with flex purples and oranges. stick with a 5 inch plate and 3 inc plate for your DAS8 mate. use with 5 inch and 3 inch flex pads. on the main channel look at my DA15 and DA12 review (1 video reviewnig both tools) I show the pads. If in2detailing are out of stock try slims.
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I use the shinemate pads. 5 pads heavy cut,medium cut,polishing,light polishing and finishing. Find it easy to follow and get good results with them
Love the channel. However, this vid has fried my head even more on what pads to buy. I recently bought the das 6 pro as you had recommended it in an older vid. You also recommended the chemical guys hex logic range (green)and scholls s20 black. These recommendations were for newbs like myself.
For yourself Jon or anyone that knows, I have a 2008 CRV that I want to work on. I want to do it in 1, rather than cut and polish. Would you still recommend these these to do the job. Thanks in advance
Great overview as always. It also depends a lot on the vehicles you most often work on. On Asian soft clear coat you can almost do a full correction and finish with Rupes yellow and go with the white for showcar finish. But if you need a bit more cut you will ruin the car with the Rupes Green. Scholl cutting works better, then followed up with Rupes and it's perfect. So, sometimes you need to combine a couple of brands. It just requires testing.
its the technology of spiderpads that help with softer paints, flushes the residue inside and keeps surface cleaner for sensitive paints, test rupes yellow vs orange spider neo and you will see.
Hi John.
Mate I love your videos never stop!
May I ask a quick question. I've seen all your videos and obviously not learnt a thing!
I've polished my motor bike, with a Rupes yellow pad on a DA, and Cartech 9000 finishing polish. The paint only has light swirls and very few scratches, so I thought a one step would work. I have had to do nearly 3 sets to show (very good) results, but when looking with my light pen after it shows those haze lines coming off the light (sorry don't know the technical term).... is that me putting them in with my fluffy microfiber clothes?? I wipe off polish well, then use a little IPA, and then buff with another microfiber.
What you think?
Regards and thank you Jerry.
very very hard to say. it could be your not degreasing properly. so its little oil trails that look like hazey buffer trails. impossible to say whats going on. but rupes yellow pads should finish out well with a good finishing polish. and cartech should be good but Ive not used it.
@Forensic Unplugged thank you John very much, like you say maybe give it a good clean. Like to see in the sun if we ever get any. Stay safe, Jerry
Hi I'm thinking of starting to machine polish my own vehicles at home and deciding what machine ect to start with. Being a painter and decorator I own a makita BO6050J sanding machine which gives you options of both sanding styles including random, my question is could I by the polishing plate for it and use it on my vehicles instead of buying a new machine ? TIA
Thanks for sharing John! Have you ever tried the famous Buff and Shine Uro-Tec microfiber pad? One pad type for cutting (moderate), polishing and finishing ... that's sounds great for a beginner like me, isn't? I'm planning also to get the Maxshine M8S (5in & 3in backing plates) and use Turtle Wax Hybrid polish and wax (AIO, correcting and protecting in a single application). Would it be a good start?
i thin kive got some in the box of stuff to try.. i will get round to comparing MF pads and these will be in there for sure.
John, you can buy the Scholls pads without the cuts. Purple pad is our go to especially with s20. We get our pads from clean and shiny think the purple pad is costing us about £8.50.
I didnt know this. I would definetly say they are so much better without the cuts. How sweet is the purple pad :) so nice.
@@forensicunplugged4295 why dont you guys like the cuts? purely for price right?
Excellent video 👍was really wanting a video on the difference between rotary and da pads. After 24yrs of using rotary I've just bought my first da and its taking time to get use to it, but it's shredding my pads? (Why? maybe you could do a video???). Bought cartec orbit pads now and much better. Can I drill a hole in normal pads to counter the heat for a da? Thanks.
Thanks Forensic Detail, I have a 2-series; hardly any correction needed. What Hex-Logic pad-set with a Das-6 would you go for & how many should I get? Want to keep the cost down as I'm only a hobbyist. As the pads are used wet anyway could I just minimize it to a couple of pads and clean as I go?
I'll be sealing with fusso, apologies - quite a few questions.
ok so green or white. green will give a bit more cut, white is more for polishing. but 2 of the color you want. these pads are for use with abrasive compounds dont use them to apply fusso just spread that by hand applicator. watch these mate
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@@forensicunplugged4295 Thanks buddy, much appreciated.
Are the 5 inch 140mm flex pads on In2detailing the correct pads for a 125mm backing plate?
Hi Jon,
I have spent literally hours trying to work out which machine pads /polish to buy. I need help!!
I like the look of either Flex pads or Koch Chemie products. If you had the choice of any of their pads or compounds which would you choose for a one stage process? (I'll be using the in2detailing DA8 on a car with medium to soft paint). Cheers!
Yo Chris. theres no set piece that would be correct for any sceanrio.. in other words you might need to change it up etc.. but Flex purple pads with Koch F6 for heard to medium paints where you want to work cut a bit more.. of F6 with flex Orange pads on soft paints or to gloss up more.
@@ForensicDetailingthanks for the reply Jon thats great! keep up the good work mate!
I've used these foam cheap pads. Mainly look at the texture of them to determine their function. So for compounding and polishing use a medium textured pad and soft for finishing polish.
What were your thoughts on the Chinese AliExpress "SPTA" and "HUTA" DA pads when you tested them.
Cheap, good and semi disposable?
I'll never touch those SPTA pads again after one delaminated after a very very short time! I was damn lucky I have fast reflexes and pulled away before the backing pad hit the paint. Cheap crap, never again
@@mrbishievo2 my Argos thinking of getting one of these spta machines with pad what is your advice
@@diljitjedi I can't vouch for the machines but after my experience with their pads I wouldn't use them again, too risky
Hello John, what are your experiences with Ford paint? SOFT or HARD What would be your recommendation for polishing pads and polishing compound?I have a 2012 Ford Fiesta.
Thanks in advance and greetings from Croatia.
John - question... does the battery from the flex blower on the rack, work with the PXE Nano polisher..? I’m told it doesn’t, which is a bore. Would love to know. Great insight to pads and it’s something I should try. I’ve generally stuck with Rupes and Lake Country, so again, in need to check the Flex pads out.
Pretty sure it does not.. so they have 18v range and 10.8v range. PXE uses 10.8v XFE uses 18v blower 18v... ironically the flex workshop LED light supports 18v and 10.8
Forensic Unplugged Cheers John - the fact that the charger supports both the batteries, that’s what has thrown me.
Hey Jon
It’s me again 😂
What wool pad would you recommend?
p.s got chemical guys pads for my 5 inch dual action & flex pads for my PXE - and flex pads have really really astonishing quality like you said! 👍
you dont really need wool ian, it builds up debry, they are never the same after you wash them. I think foam is the way to go.. on a rotary wool is nice and smooth but I just dont see the point on a DA.
I currently use the rupes pads, purely because of having rupes machines, but contemplating trying the moore car care pads, pretty sure their at a good price and do all sizes.
I know you did a review of them abit back, just wondering have you played about with them abit more ?.
Plus they are bringing a new range out soon also.
Thanks
I have the Rupes polishers so have stuck with their pads. The yellow is superb. They’re newer wool pads are pretty amazing too especially when paired with a decent AIO for an effective one step enhancement.
Hey Jon. You will help me mate. The man I trust. Have you touched ford race red solid paint? Seems soft as I was able to get some things done by hand even with DJ lime prime cleaner. My car is in good condition - double bucket all the time, always waxed. It has 2yrs, 26kkm on the odometer. Only love marks and minor signs. Just bought a cheap 15mm/720w machine and aiming in minimal correction, jeweling to get max gu. Carpro reflect and soft carpro pads? :) what would you recommend? total newbie, hold DA foe 10 minutes in my life.
abrasives. Koch H9 F6 and M3 you need nothing beyond these. And Flex purples for cut or single stage hard paint.. Or flex orange for finishing polish or single stage soft paint.. thats it mate honestly
@@ForensicDetailing thanks a lot. I will buy a small m3.02. I see Flex pads are not available in poland. My shop strongly recommends lake country ccs da white. they also have koch pads and I can live with the price. If I would go for such combination for super-light onestep, and have megs ultimate compound and some medium pad if I need to remove something. What would you say? Have you had a chance to work with ford race red paint, hands on or heard any solid opinion on it?
Stay safe and healthy Jon!
I've just bought the shinemate ep803 primarily for the 1 inch. I'm gonna use there pads. Have you used shinemate pads at all?
yes its a no from me. have a watch of the main channel video "the best polishing pads" problem with shine mate pads are if its chinese made I will only really pay about 50% of what the european pads cost, where as shinemate pads are roughly the same price. so thats just a personal constraint. I can get european made rupes pads cheaper and they are better quality.
@@ForensicDetailing
You should try the shinemate yellow flat pad for cutting and red flat pad for polishing.. they are awesome..much durable than rupes..
top draw jon. im yet to try the koch pads but hearing lots of good things about them. will have to bite the bullet and get a couple to try out. keep up the great work pal.
Which pad would you use to buffer an acrylic aquarium? Please provide a link to purchase. Thanks!
Really helpful video Jon. I’ve started out on the Koch system but now that I have a mini rotary in addition to the XCE, the flex line up is making so much sense. Have only used the purple ones so far but they felt really good to use
Hi John, I've decided to go with a DA8 as I'm new to machine polishing. Now....I've decided to do a 1 stage polish with Scholl Concepts S20 Black. I've chose to go with the Koch Chemie pads as they also do the 3'' pads too. I will be using it on an 18 year old Audi TT. Could you recommend which Koch Chemie pad to use with S20 Black please?
I used S20 with chemical guys green pad as a one stage polishing, as an amateur I was completely happy with the results and more importantly I had no problems or disasters.
Great vlog , what do you think of SPTA cheap pads ? They are European and says made in Germany 🇩🇪, John ? Or is cheap just USLESS
It’s Flex all the way for me. I’ve been using the PXE for the last couple of months and the Flex pads are incredibly durable. I tried the Rupes equivalents and they tend to crumble fairly quickly. I’ve just bought the XFE as well so I’ll be using nothing but Flex pads with that too. Having just those two polishers pretty much has me covered. The charger accommodates both batteries. It’s just a shame the PXE batteries can’t be used on the XFE but I can live with that as the two polishers are fantastic bits of kit. Jon, thanks for the recommendation. I can’t see me needing anything else now (but I do want the new Flex light now!).
Been using 3M pads and polishes on a rotary for years but I'm replacing when needed with Koch Chemi polishes and Flex pads. The XFE is definitely on the wish list.
Was hoping there was some fexipads when I saw the hex shape pads, how do you rate those
I use 1 foam pad, the Rupes yellow which is awesome with compounds and finishing. Anything heavier I use wool or MF pads.
You use the same pad for compound and polish?
Lake Country orange pad for me! Got convinced by Brian at Apex Detailing to try it and it's awesome. I only look after our own cars so can't comment too much on durability but they certainly do a great job coupled with single stage/AIO Secret Weapon by Auto Fanatic.
Brian is awesome. Love his channel. I’m a Lake Country user as well.
Great video, I have a DAS pro plus which is a long throw, I have purchased 2 chemical guys hex pads, not the quantum version with the hole in the middle. Would the standard ones still be ok to use? Or would it cause a problem?
Those Flex tools look an excellent system, being able to change out the backing plates so quick and easy.
That groove on the outside of the Koch-Chemie might be to protect the paint if you roll the pad over it reduces the pressure because that specific spot has “less backing”.
Are the FLEX orange and purple still available? It looks like they're now only available in black, violet and red.
looks like they changed their pads. red cut, purple middle black finish. but also DA cone shape. when they do this I get tempted to throw the lot of their stuff in the bin and go use other brands. because I build my system around what they had before. their old pad was good on force rotation and rotary. very very annoying. Im a diva, and stuff like this triggers me and make me think they dont know what they are doing.
www.flex-tools.com/en/accessories/accessories-for-polishers
I remember the older video.witch icluded also those cheap spta pads.
Have you ever tried spta wool da.pads?
It would.br interesting.
Again great video John sir
i think I have some spta wool and microfiber pads.. not used though
Spta wool pads are good especially on scratches that you can feel wit’s your nail Iv used it with h9 literally no haze
@@hakman239 thanks a lot
@@marioskosmidhs9454 it removed the scratche completely as well though it would need wet sanding i used speed 6 mid to heavy pressure and 8 passes
Hey Jon @forensic Unplugged since you made this video I've noticed tge koch chemie pads have dropped in price and some are cheaper than the flex one , question.. let's say there the same price which one is better flex pads or koch chemie pads in your opinion...
Also what pads do you use for your 50mm aps attachment on flex pxe cordless , wish one company made all the sizes so its easier 😔
I use flex pads for everything mate. mainly purples and oranges. the flex purple is a bit softer than the koch high cutting pad which is very course. and koch dont have the full size range. so I just use flex for everything. getting size requirements is the primary thing.
@@forensicunplugged4295 yh your right but i cant seem to find the flex 2" pads ,where you buying your 50mm (2" flex pads) from? I can only see 1" 3" 5" 6" it's missing the 2" pads for the 50mm aps flex pxe backing plate 😭
Also would u use red flex pads 🤔
@@SilverTrill Im not sure if they do 2inch pads silverback.
@@forensicunplugged4295 oh I'm presumed you also had 2" flex pads for the APS 50mm backing plate your reviewed on the channel because you said you use flex pads for everything , I'm guessing now you don't use the 50mm backing plate so don't have 2" pads? Also would you recommend the red flex pad or will orange be good enough ?
Ok John I thought I was confused before but I'm definitely confused now but I like to watch a video couple of times to get my head around it got a brand new car last year silver Octavia Skoda bloody hell the paint is soft isn't it not like my old Vauxhall but obviously they've started using water-based paints I have and polished the car last year when I bought it and sealed it .i looked after it paint work it is immaculate but the car is a year old now well actually it is about 18 months old since it was made going to give it a Polish with a machine which I hope to buy a Daz do action after watching your videos I need obviously to plates and I will buy upmarket pads but my question is if I'm only going to polish the car once a year wouldn't a rotary be better with different backing plates or am I asking to get myself into a whole load of trouble(((((( rotary or DA going to have to watch this video again and take notes on a pen and paper but as usual great video, and I have used Chinese stuff guys don't bother go European the Chinese stuff just falls apart and damages paintwork
I would love for you to take a look at the Americana Global pads. They seem to be really recommended by a lot of pros, and one key element in their design are the holes they run for cooling so that the pads stay cooler during longer work sessions. The holes are cut like the orbital sanding sheets, that line up with the holes on the backing pads. This allows for the Americana Global pads to breathe and cool themselves while spinning and in contact with the paint. Check them out, and let us know what you think, I’m very curious of your opinion.
they are not really a thing over here. Im not sure if you can get them.
Hey, no problem, if they’re not in ur market then don’t worry about it. I do have a follow up, I’m just starting with my foray into more serious DIY detail work (especially since I bought some Avalon King Armor IX Ceramic Coating). To get both my cars prepped for the coating I want to do a proper job, now and going forward. I have two vehicles, a 2017 Mazda CX-9 Grand Touring, in Gunmetal Grey, and a 2020 Honda Civic Si Coupe in a kind of Pearl White (with a lot of metallic flake in it). I plan on going through the usual steps of washing, claying, iron removal, and then paint correction. For the paint correction I’m going with the Meguires M110 compound, followed by either M205 or M210. What pads would you recommend for these cars? Are they considered to have soft or hard clear coat? Should I try to remove the orange peel effect, or just go for swirl scratch removal, and not worry about the orange peel? Please let me know, if u have a moment, thanks!
Just to follow up a bit with more detail. The Mazda used to be garage kept, but has been parked outside since the start of the Wuhan Flu, and the Civic has always been parked outdoors (both in Northeastern PA, which gets deep into each of the 4 seasons - meaning rain, very hot and humid, to snow and very cold and dry). This is also a heavily salted road area in the winter. Neither car has harsh defects through the paint like deep key scratches or accidents. The Mazda has a bit more general wear and tear,. Since the Civic is newer it looks like less paint damage, but under a light I see tons of swirls and scratches from car washes and general rubbing up against the car of clothes, boxes, etc.
Having had many years of car cleaning when the 'standard' was a shampoo-and-sponge, T-Cut and a paste wax, by hand with any old cloth, I've moved to 'machine polishing', which in itself is a misnomer. I went a bit mad with purchasing, and have a Kestrel DA and a Rotary and storage tubs of unused pads and backing plates from 25-180mm. What bugs me is the lack of colour-code consistency. I have Chinese pads, multi-pad Amazon buys with 20-30 of mixed sizes and surfaces, eBay bargains, no-names, big-names and it's a headache. Early on, I bought some thick, 150mm Flexi-pads, but printed on the back is 'Not suitable for DA Machines'. I have no idea why not.
I'm almost yearning for the simpler days of a bucket, sponge, shampoo and a 'chammy'.
I’ve just purchased in2detailing das8 with 5” & 3” plate. Can I use 6” & 4” pads? Or do they need to be 5&3 Jon? Appreciate any help
AS I am now a Flex convert the Flex pads are perfect CG Quantum pads are still good for beginners. I also think the Flexi pads range fit well on my XFE and are good VFM and quality.
Great video again John it’s flex for me too they are really awesome as I always use the rotary the purple always make light work of even the toughest clear coat 😎😎😎😎😎😎
Rupes green pads are impossible to buy now , no one has them in stock anywhere , I found like the small ones but that’s about it , seems they got some manufacturing issue or they are discontinuing them
John, awesome video. Can i ask as a beginner that is, to be honest starting out with pads and machine (mine is a Poorboys) which set(s) of pads would you recommend to try as a starter ? Having watched this, probably an open ended question but any help would be appreciated.
Are the flex pads you talk about the same as flexipads John ??
Great vid Jon. Good info. Would you maybe do a video with some tips of getting a white/lighter coloured car the best it could be. Cheers 🍻
It really is the same regardless of the color Tony. because you can only ever work on the surface of the clearcoat no matter whats under the clear.
@@ForensicDetailing true. Was kind of interested in these waxes specifically made for certain coloured cars. Suppose its how good your prep is. Cheers.
Finally at 8 minutes got an answer. Thanks
Lake county hybrid grey or orange great with scholl s3xxl gold or coch chemie h8 and scholl orange pad is awesome with scholl s40
Excellent as usual......still love the lil blue DAS and S20Black. Hard to beat, especially with the Carpro Cool Pad Wool/Microfibre pad and S2 Gold. Cuts clear like butter.
Whats the opinion on Gyeon pads? Those 2x 80mm seem decent value
John have you got a link to the zvisa (you couldn’t pronounce it so I got no chance of spelling it) I fancy giving them a try an my 15mm throw DA.
google waxed and polished or SP autopia. these 2 guys sell in the UK mate.
What was the name of the polishing pad at around 19 minutes and 25 seconds?
Ive heard rupes UHS (heavy cutting pad) and Coarse Blue (cutting pad) are more agressif than the yellow hex logic pads that true? As well as sonax having better cut than koch chemie H9
If I was to buy the 126mm koch pad jon what backing plate would you recommend to use on my da?
At the moment I have a 5 inch and use 5.5 Chemical guys..
5 inch plate mate.
Please can anyone recommend the best pads to buy if polishing a car by hand? Thanks ❤❤❤
Hey John, if you are moving away from the Hexlogic pads and have tons of them, do us a favour and put some of them up as prizes or something! Lol.
will do yer
@@forensicunplugged4295 I'd be up for the yellow 5'' and 3.5'', if you don't want them of course, mate, pal, buddy :-)
Brilliant John! You da man! I'm just about to buy my first ever DA so I wouldn't say no to a couple for sure!
I wouldn't even say no if you offered to teach me too! Lol.
Of course I've watched every video you've released so I do have an idea already!
Very useful video! Checked the price of the Koch chemie pads and they are between £10-12 from slims
What about the Moore car care pads John, thoughts on them?
He’s reviewed them
Hi I'm looking to perchance a da polishes and pads for the first time i have 3 car's but one is a 55 ford f100 hot rod with a very expensive paint job not sure to go for mains power or battery power can you help
Hi John I’m getting holograms from using the orange flex pad with koch fine cut on my rotary polisher ? Ended up using some autoglym polish by hand which solved it on my black car am I doing something wrong ? It’s a Lexus so maybe just soft paint
yes paint. its hard to buffer trail with orange soft pads and koch m3. if thats the abrasve you are using. have a watch of my videos called "the botox effect" which basically talked about what causes it. you are overheating that soft paintwork. when your using that rotary if the paintwork is getting warm to the touch then its highly likley buffer trails will appear later on. slow down the machine speeds. Koch M3 is designed to de-hollogram (to remove buffer trails its very hard to install buffer trails with it)
@@forensicunplugged4295 my paint is also 2k aswell so the pad is pretty much black lol have to keep cleaning it haha
All I wanted to know is which pad to start with and then next and so on . That's it
Great video John 👍you saved me a ton of money watching this video. Thanks
If say have a 5 inc backing plate do you use a 5 inch pad or 5.5 inch pad
Jon is there way I could use my bigfoot 15 Rupes with 35mm pads? Is there any attachment? or do you need to get the nano to fix that problem? Just trying to cut down on buying machines
that aint gonna work declan.. that tiny little pad gonna just get squashed and wiggle all over the place but the machine does not support small plate size.
Declan Flaherty mate, what you say makes financial sense but not mechanical sense.
When it comes to polishing with a DA, the “pattern” counts. You’ll find smaller machines with smaller backing plates for this reason. The 12/15/21mm offset isn’t conducive to effective polishing with pad sizes smaller than about 5” (125mm).
To put a 35mm pad on a 15mm throw machine will create a horrendous polishing pattern which will be ineffective and create more work for yourself.
Ergo different size machines exist for a reason.
Different kettle of fish for rotary, only speed and ergonomics play a part. Smaller pads require higher speed and typically a smaller machine to make it easier to handle.
@@forensicunplugged4295 Thanks Jon! Yep I was thinking you would say this but I remember Brian from Apex Detail having something either he cooked up at home or something so just wanted to check.
@@glumdogtrillionaire Cheers mate! I agree you are absolutely right but I wanted to check. Thanks for your reply!
Will a chemical guys 5.5inch 140cm pad fit be compatible for a DA 125mm plate?
yes m8
Any opinion about Lake Country pads used on Flex XC 3401?
SPTA pads no good?
You're a professional installer, if you want to add Apple Car Play to your factory radio Thank you for the content
Ive always used lake county pads but thinking of giving the kochchemie ones a go 👍
Lake Country Hybrid system on the 3401 was your favourite.????
Darn you Jon i literally bought new pads last night. Not watched yet, hopefully if the Lake County CCS pads are in this their not pants. Dare i press play ha ha. I didn't realize Scholl Concept pads where so cheap at in2detailing, i will have to try that code!
Thanks Jon. A ton of excellent information there.
Do you have any experience with the Shine Mate Pads?
yes In my opinion I dont want to pay the same price for chinese pads as european pads, even if the company tells me they import euro foam (I dont think shine mate do could be wrong).. Im not keen on the diamond shine mate cones actually I get sling with them. their flat ones are fine. Just wish they were cheaper.
I put 3 inch pad on my das6 pro vibration is lot more where do you get smaller counter weight from
Quality content, so helpful as usual
John the full line of Flex pads are hard to find in the U.S. Using your supplier in UK makes the price too high. Anyone have a good online source for all the Flex pads he recommends online in the U.S. ?
contact flex and ask them.. seems pretty pointless to make them and not stock them to their biggest market.
What do you need the red pad for
This was a pretty cool informative video, top stuff!
will 5 inch plate suffice for black car, or do i need 10 inch?
5 inch backing plate is ideal mate.
Please suggest me a Buffing pad for paste wax.. as well as to remove light wrinkles and swirl marks of my car.. i have a dual action polisher which came with a wool pad..
Chemical guys white hex logic pad
@@forensicunplugged4295 Bundle of Thanks!
So would the red flex be good for applying wax?
liquid wax yes. heavy paste wax are a bit thick for machine application.
great video great information, great delivery, thank you!
What about farcela, meguiars and lake country pads.
farecla does not have me covered on sizes I need but I have some in the box, they work well on a rotary with their flexible plate.. but I would have to buy different spot pads so thats really why I cant use them... Lake country same issue really. Megs Im not so keen on but Im overdue a revisit.
We need to investegate a pad resizing device to get those smaller sizes dialed in.
Brillant video. Thank you,
Can you use 150mm discs on 125mm sander ?
yes but you get more lifting on the outer edges.its not a good idea.
@@forensicunplugged4295 Thanks for responding ! I am looking to wet sand my car but I can only find good discs and pads for 150mm sander. Maybe you have some suggestions ?
The 125 mm pads is the face of the pad 125mm as well?
Im referring to fitment size approximately. face size is usually bigger.
Forensic Unplugged how big is the face size on the 125mm pads
So if doing one step on hard paint purple pad with f6 or h9
Lake country SDO/HDO all day long.
why some pads have a hole in the centre?
good question. some machines has a nut in the middle of the plate which heats up. cooling is the reason pad manufacturers say this but IVe also heard its a myth and you dont need a hole in the middle.
@@forensicunplugged4295 thanks Jon
@@forensicunplugged4295 John sorry another question, i never seen you applying the sealant by dual action polisher is there a reason why?
One thing on my wish list...I wish the industry would get togather and have a standard across the industry for color coding the pads or at the very least labeling them. Idk how many times I've gone to grab a 3" pad after using a 5 or 6 and the color from this company means a heavy cut when the company you were just using an orange being medium cut, and the third company it's a polsihing pad. smh . It's a real time waster and Ifind myself sticking to one company that may well e an inferior but more expensive pad set because I have the color coding memorized and knkow exactly wht to grab and how it performs.. IS it just me?
Koch m3.02 with flex orange then