Experts slugfest mailbag: 'Wicked' reactions, Margaret Qualley, and the fifth spot in Best Actor

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  • @suesommerton
    @suesommerton 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +63

    Wow, Chris and Joyce are "concerned" about Demi Moore's screen time, and they talk about it almost every show. Her screen time doesn’t matter, as she delivers the most emotional and iconic scene in front of the mirror-by far the most memorable performance among some bland ones.

    • @fes123456
      @fes123456 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you and I hate when they harp on this nonsense

    • @chrisjrosen
      @chrisjrosen 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Uh, okay!

  • @AlfonsoEspina
    @AlfonsoEspina 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +58

    You guys are always talking trash about Jolie in Maria. Were you like this with Marion Cotillard in La Vie En Rose too?

    • @zeynelg5348
      @zeynelg5348 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Because they want some kiddie movies to get nominated.

    • @chrisjrosen
      @chrisjrosen 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      We both have Angelina getting nominated. It is evident that Cynthia Erivo is doing her own singing in Wicked. Angelina is not a professional singer. I wouldn’t put Erivo into this lineup over Angelina. All of these thoughts can be true at the same time. Thanks for watching!

    • @AlfonsoEspina
      @AlfonsoEspina 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @ Well, if Marion Cotillard could do it without using her own singing voice, then so can Angelina.

  • @tonic.1327
    @tonic.1327 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +114

    You pick the most negative email about The Substance. You only keep pointing out the film's weaknesses. You repeatedly saying the film might get hair and make-up. Honestly, None of us are here for the hair and make-up line up. Why showing such negativity and lack of passion towards Demi Moore and The Substance even though the film has become a phenomenon?

    • @chrisjrosen
      @chrisjrosen 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I don’t really understand this comment - and with more than 100 upvotes, a rarity for our channel, I feel like it’s a bot army situation. But to take it in good faith: we like this movie! It’s also true that Demi has comparable screen time to Margaret and arguably isn’t the focus point of the final 30 minutes, which everyone loves. Its exemplary hair and makeup work should be nominated and it should win. I also have it getting in for original screenplay. Sorry you think these comments are negative!

    • @AnxiousMumblecore
      @AnxiousMumblecore 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yeah, it's either bots or groundless stans attack - I'm much higher on The Substance chances but all you & Joyce say are reasonable takes (and far from most dismissive in the awards following circles!). Lot of undeniable performances missed for some reasons and The Substance belonging to beloved Academy genre of body horror is enough of a question mark without considering things like screen time, other contenders and so on.

  • @Nerine-k5d
    @Nerine-k5d 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    38:15 This comment about Hard Truths is spot on. When Marianne Jean-Baptiste and Mike Leigh collaborate, people expect another modern masterpiece like Secrets and Lies, but it isn’t. The plot meanders, Marianne’s character is shallow, and she spends most of the film screaming. Honestly, it's one of the worst films of 2024, yet critics are raving as if it's perfect. You’re predicting Jean-Baptiste will get a Critics Choice nomination, but that’s happening. There's nothing for her beyond a possible BAFTA nomination.

  • @andersjannoren9568
    @andersjannoren9568 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    No matter what you say, Demi all the way.

    • @chrisjrosen
      @chrisjrosen 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I love Demi and would be thrilled if she got nominated. I don’t know that she will.

  • @Angie-ol7qb
    @Angie-ol7qb 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    Angelina isn’t lip syncing she actually singed all the performances herself on her own then her voice was blended with Maria’s

    • @chrisjrosen
      @chrisjrosen 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      They’ve certainly said this. I’d believe it. But if you see the film, it’s clear the blend is very tilted toward Maria Callas, which gives the sense that it is lip syncing. Her singing voice doesn’t match the way her onscreen singing is depicted and sounds because of it. In Wicked, it’s obvious the actresses are the people doing the singing with their own voices. It makes a difference!

    • @myytchanneldinakoha8498
      @myytchanneldinakoha8498 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sure. Sure.

    • @chrisjrosen
      @chrisjrosen 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@myytchanneldinakoha8498 Good response.

  • @drewroddy
    @drewroddy 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    you both are so entertaining! thank you for these mailbag episodes!

  • @JoshFriedman786
    @JoshFriedman786 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Everytime I hear praise from emailers for The Substance and how it's their favorite film that they're hope-dicting it, I keep rolling my eyes and say you all should watch other movies. 😒

    • @berkcansevgi2714
      @berkcansevgi2714 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      keep rolling your eyes until they drop

  • @mr29
    @mr29 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Demi and Margaret are both Leads in The Substance. That said, I am fine with Qualley being campaigned in Supporting. They both deserve Oscar nominations and they'd be two of the coolest nominations in Academy history.

  • @slc2466
    @slc2466 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The best recent drinking game is taking a shot every time you see that water bottle in "Smile 2."

  • @mr29
    @mr29 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I am not convinced of Chalamet in ACU. I think we are all sleeping on Cillian Murphy. Thoughts?

  • @dahomey2001
    @dahomey2001 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Regarding Selena, what stigma does she have to overcome?
    She has been acting in tv and film since she was a child, and her most known work is starring alongside two veterans in one of the most known comedy shows, earning her and the rest of the cast emmy and golden globe nominations
    She made the transition a long time starring in diverse films alongside more renowned actors (many being academy voters)

    • @aliceellialti100
      @aliceellialti100 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      she is not a good actress and not the best part of Emilia Perez so no nomination for her.

    • @dahomey2001
      @dahomey2001 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ i’m pretty sure the television academy’s actor branch knows more about acting than your lame ass
      Many outlets called her the highlight and heart and soul of the film, if you want to be hateful, do it correctly

  • @samtan4729
    @samtan4729 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    What?!? Chris! You didn't cry at the devastating ending of Anora???

    • @chrisjrosen
      @chrisjrosen 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I actually teared up at another part: When Igor stands up for Anora in the Las Vegas lawyer's office.

  • @reneepope-munro8115
    @reneepope-munro8115 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I disagree so vehemently that it's a bad idea to spit Wicked into 2 films. Like, how on earth are you gonna go from Defying Gravity to Thank Goodness, without significantly reducing the impact of either? It's just necessary to give both stories their moment, and Act 2 doesn't suffer from the major tonal shift.

  • @nicholasmorre7371
    @nicholasmorre7371 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Adam Driver "continuing to work with every great filmmaker" sounds so good in theory...

  • @oldschoolabrahamhicks2742
    @oldschoolabrahamhicks2742 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    YAYYYYYYYYY

  • @fes123456
    @fes123456 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Stop manipulating the narratives - Demi Moore is in the movie 53% of the time Qualley 48% and the screen time data has been done - Joyce is correct they are co leads - Moore is absolutely in the film enough

    • @chrisjrosen
      @chrisjrosen 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This is wrong. Demi is at 42.02 percent, while Margaret is at 40.82 percent (Matthew Stewart logs these numbers). Overall, Demi Moore was in the movie for 101 seconds more than Margaret Qualley. So, yes, they are co-leads but it's pretty close and you could easily imagine a scenario where they're flipped.
      And all this said, while you're continuing to rage about this: I put Demi and Margaret into my predictions on the latest refresh because I do think there is so much passion for the film (as evidenced by our page here). You're welcome.

  • @mandygrahams
    @mandygrahams 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i just noticed you took ariana out and put back danielle. what caused you to go back?

    • @chrisjrosen
      @chrisjrosen 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      I have Ariana in there now!

  • @sasha76944
    @sasha76944 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If the political climate affects in any way the awards season
    Actors and stories about people of color could benefit from this, especially movies like emilia perez and their actresses being the only latino representation from a front-runner film for best picture
    Of course sing sing has colman domingo, but he's already locked

    • @timgriffin3368
      @timgriffin3368 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Agreed. I feel the Emilia Perez push coming on strong, and I'm not huge on that film.

    • @cayesanandres2144
      @cayesanandres2144 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      people of color? Karla Sophia Gascon is Spanish and she is indeed white.

    • @myytchanneldinakoha8498
      @myytchanneldinakoha8498 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      One good effect of the election result is hopefully libs’ lazy, ignorant, condescending pc race/gender labelling/baiting would be phased out.

  • @dayvaughnmonroe9540
    @dayvaughnmonroe9540 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    So if yall were never bored why complain about the runtime but give praise to the brutalist… but i guess so wicked is better than one of the best picture locks (emilia perez) but still yall didnt like it im sooo confused

    • @chrisjrosen
      @chrisjrosen 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      I... don't think we ever said we didn't like it. I do think it's better than Emilia Perez, which is also good. The Brutalist running time felt somewhat shorter than Wicked because of how The Brutalist is structured and given an intermission. These are all thoughts we can have at the same time. Fun movie, can't wait to see Wicked again.

    • @dayvaughnmonroe9540
      @dayvaughnmonroe9540 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ 👍🏾

    • @dayvaughnmonroe9540
      @dayvaughnmonroe9540 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@chrisjroseni have seen multiple interpretations of elphaba, and cynthia looks like she is playing her more internal to set up for the big acting moments in part 2 but i get that its your job to be critical. Its apart of the business of movies 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @chrisjrosen
      @chrisjrosen 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@dayvaughnmonroe9540 I think this is exactly right -- that's why I expect her to be a very serious contender for Best Actress next year. I also think, and I wonder if this matters, they know they can reward her next year because the second act is so focused on Elphaba. Glinda, for Ariana, it's really this year or bust.

    • @dayvaughnmonroe9540
      @dayvaughnmonroe9540 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@chrisjrosen yea i actually agree. Being as though this year the categories are kinda wide open, i would love to see them both get in, but i know when people refer to “genre” movies they think of horror but i think being in a fantasy is a hard task, not impossible but definitely an uphill battle.

  • @kwalton7690
    @kwalton7690 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    "Is a movie with this many talking animals going to get nominated for Best Picture?"
    Babe has entered the chat.

    • @chrisjrosen
      @chrisjrosen 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I was thinking more like Harry Potter and Disney live-action animated movies but I get your point.

    • @jbjob2218
      @jbjob2218 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@chrisjrosen have you forgot the shape of water (2017)?

    • @kwalton7690
      @kwalton7690 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@chrisjrosen I haven't seen the film but I have read the book and seen the musical and, you know better than me having seen the film, but if they stuck to the darker turn surrounding the animals, it could help.

    • @chrisjrosen
      @chrisjrosen 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@kwalton7690 they certainly make it as dark as required -- I guess I don't know how to verbalize it. The talking animals and flying monkeys -- this despite incredible VFX work from Pablo Helman tha god -- just make it feel like a kids' movie more than an "Oscar" movie. I still have it in Best Picture but I can't say I'm all that confident in any of these movies in the bottom half right now.

    • @kwalton7690
      @kwalton7690 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@chrisjrosen Ah ok. Yeah, makes sense. Maybe they should have gone practical for the animals. Looking forward to seeing it soon!

  • @user-jq4pk4kf4s
    @user-jq4pk4kf4s 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Wicked could potentially get a best picture nomination if it has good reviews and crosses 1B at the box office
    But predicting acting categories for a fantasy film, especially for someone like ariana, who is known more as a singer and hasn’t made the public transition as an actress like Gaga did years before a star is born
    It’s just wishful thinking, especially with the academy voting system, she won’t get enough #1s in the ballots, even if she makes it to some precursors like jlo

  • @KaiOpaka
    @KaiOpaka 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Hard G, Chris. Gif/Jif is a peanut butter regardless of who you interviewed who said it the other way. 😉🫡