Bruh, I forgot that Connor skips cut scenes!!!! That makes so much sense. Man, they know nothing. Joey knows the most but clearly leans more to the Japanese games, thus not being too much of a fan of Western games.
@@dipteshdas6758nah garnt is the one who plays only gacha games for sure. and Joey hasn't played mainstream games, he loves his whole nostalgia "old is gold" shit
Mind you Connor said this as a man who barely qualifies as a millennial 💀 had he’d been born half a year later he’d be trash talking himself, dude was 10 when the Wii dropped idk how he assumes gen Z wasn’t born yet by then
I just started watching and from looking at the time stamps and the duration of each one, I know I’m going to cringe at their thoughts for Tekken 3 (for example) because they don’t know ANYTHING about fighting games, especially Tekken…💀 EDIT: I stand corrected. From The Uncharted/Naughty Dog slander to the Resident Evil series... just kill me.
Their tastes are unironically trash. Joey: gamer snob who only likes niche games and typically trashes on popular titles. Conner: if he didn't play it, it's trash. Grant: takes aren't crazy and at least is a bit knowledgeable and open minded. This is what I took from this episode as a casual gamer. Not hating on the boys but their takes ain't it this time.
@L2-L2 Joey: Plays only RPGs and Nintendo games. Garnt: Plays only RPGS and gacha. Connor: Plays only FPS games and streamer games, then proceeds to call every other game that aren't those shit.
@@Kiboune_YTI mean genshin is a side game, that won’t stop anyone from playing loads of other games. I know a lot of genshin players who have hundreds of hours in BG3. I kinda just believe that it’s just not his thing (he even said “it’s not a JRPG” and in a lot of past episodes he mentioned he doesn’t like when a game doesn’t have one specific storyline, and choices effect the gaming experience), but doesn’t wanna admit it since BG3 is massively popular
I love how Connor described resident evil 5 as "so they all have a sickness and I have to shoot them all" My brother in Christ that's literally every resident evil game XD
Think he was stepping around the whole silly "controversy" of that game with it being in Africa so most of the infected are black. Which has always been a dumb take to me.
@@randallrobertson6042 Yeah anyone who hasn't touched RE5 says that because people on Twitter say it too lmao, also the whole "sickness" thing, Connor and Joey "played" RE but somehow don't know it's an artificially created virus in every game that was spread around for bioterrorism purposes, this is the most basic RE lore and they somehow don't know it it's really funny that they would just go with the weird Twitter people take 😭
Video games are my biggest passion…and ever since the start of this podcast I have learned not to take a gaming opinion from the bois seriously because if I did I would pop a blood vessel…
DUDE San Andreas was awesome and its silly co-op feature was fun to mess around with when friends would come over and trying to survive 6 stars wanted with a buddy was crazy, one of the MANY problems the re-released "definitive edition" trilogy had was removing it
Worst take goes to Garnt and Connor. Tony Hawk game better than Shadow Of The Colossus? I actually yelled "Bullsh!t" so loud my cat thought she was in trouble.
@@chazzergamer Depends. There's lots of down time on Shadow of the colossus. Tony hawk is a better game since....you know you're actually playing the game all the time lol.
@@NinjapowerMSsotc is a 6/20 game with 12/10 moments, which I prefer over a consistent 7.5/10 game. The downtime between bosses is part of what made the atmosphere of the game so good
Dude, the fact that Garnt goes around talking about "vibe this vibe that" but he doesn't get Shadow of the Colossus which is one of the most "vibe" games ever is so funny to me. But hey, trash taste innit Edit: Also paraphrasing "Aggro was a dick, it was almost like riding a real horse" ASDFGADDSFDGH no comment
@@flosscap but tbh I can see Connor not liking it. SotC if You know what to do is quite easy, like it doesnt require mechanichal ability due to its simplistic nature so it's not enough to satisfy suuuch a gamer 🙄
nah I get it. In JRPGs you can kinda turn off your brain and play an it is at most 100 hours whereas in a game like balder's gate you have to have your brain on which feels way longer in perspective. For example 100 hours of persona 5 felt like nothing but 100 hours of Zelda tears of the kingdom had me feel like I spent 400 hours in game
Connor usually plays MP games, Both Gigguk and Joey play nothing but JRPGs. So they don't play other games genre and they talk about shit without any information and not understanding context or consoles history etc..
@@shauryasuri3653Honestly if a game can keep you engaged throughout its entire runtime like Bg3, the length shouldn't matter whether you turn your brain on or off if you enjoy your time playing the game itself.
I was so hyped to hear the boys talking about games. I'm 13 minutes in and I already regret it, they talking about fighting games is physically hurting me. I was not ready.
The FGC is a very tightly knit circle, but it's not nearly as big as it was. I'd love to sit down and debate why Tekken 5 was the best of its series and why we should I thank Daigo Umehara for making the fighting games relevant in pop culture but...we're a dying breed.
I’m surprised Soul Calibur I was the only fighter on the list. Personally, I prefer Soul Calibur II (PS2) as I had so many good memories playing in my childhood. …still sucked ass on it, though.
Yeah episodes where they talk about specific topics like this, movies, or anime I can not watch. It's embarrassing to hear them talk so passionate about something they have no idea about.
@@Wolfedge75 The SC had a lot of single player content that not many fighters provide any more. Owing perhaps to its lengthy arcade origins, fighting game developers have not adjusted well to the console/PC movement until the last few years. SF5 vanilla was horrible... I have fond memories of SC2. Ivy had an impossible command and the tip was just to spin the stick 3 circles. 😁
That shadow of the Colossus take was horrendous. Literally some of the most amazing atmosphere in any game. Some of the best enemy designs ever. The sheer scale and epicness of the battles is just pure cinema. It's fucking awesome
That's the thing about this trio. They drive their audience absolutely nuts when they talk about anything EXCEPT anime. When they talk anime and manga they actually sound like coherent people. When they talk about any other topic it always makes me wonder how they are even functioning adults in society.
@@MrKynzer Go watch the clip about the bread debate, or listen to Joey try and explain why steak is mid, or listen to them attempt to rank beer or any number of things. These dudes are nuts.
@@ktvindicare I would say it's the other way around, when they don't talk about anime they are having some good ass banter, with some wild takes every now and then. The thing is that when somebody has a weird take there is always a member to take the opposite side, so I genuinely never really feel worked up about it. I mean, in the first place their wild takes don't really come up that often. And let's be honest, everybody has some unique takes on their side. Really weird to expect them to have the most generic society conforming opinions on everything. And when it comes to anime talk, they are definitely driving the audience nuts comparatively to their normal episodes. Joey likes to minimize a lot of shows, not only that but he voices his opinions in such a way that it seems almost condescending. Connor can be ruthless with his opinions, without trying to understand the appeal behind certain shows. It's not really a big deal, but definitely pisses some people off when they are talking about something that has a lot of passionate people behind it. Garnt I feel like is the only one that is understanding of how audience can take those opinions, and usually tries to be at least supporting of both sides, with some rare cases when he is negative which usually comes from an understandable place.
1:11:21 Everyone who has even the slightest interest in Visual Novels or even books should read House in Fata Morgana (and not stop after the first few doors/story arcs). The 2nd half especially has some of the most engrossing writing and the best romance I've ever seen. Certainy deserves it's Metascore, life changing game.
It's an absolute masterpiece. I owned a physical version when I had a Switch and now since I just do all my gaming on my laptop, I wish Reincarnation would get a Steam release. Lots of people didn't like how they changed the art style but the story was brilliant for an "after story" to the main game.
Also if enjoyed that then I have some other brilliant recommendations Island Seven Days Bokuten: Why I Became an Angel (18+) The Fruit of Grisaia (18+) Shining Song Starnova (18+) Corpse Factory
@@Libo1595as a gamer he’ll yeah it’s frustrating I’m replaying RE5 and idk it seems to me when Joey mentions it’s in Africa he sounds like that’s some big issue when I mean. African zombies. Aren’t rac1st in Africa. People would throw a bigger fit if the game took place in Africa and it was just white guys. I do agree with some of the other things but Connor saying they infected and you shoot them like yeah. But that’s all games in the entire series. That’s where the original Japanese name comes form “biohazard”
Problem with Metacritic is some games (especially older ones) only have 20+ reviews, which is why it has a near perfect average scores. Whereas modern games have much more reviews, (90+) which makes it much harder to get a high score.
THANK YOU. I was thinking I was the only one who thought how outrageous that comment was. Garnts cool, but he doesn’t know when something clearly doesn’t click with him.
Garnt saying Super Metroid has zero vibes when the Metroid Prime devs literally sat down to play and take notes from Super is insane. The atmosphere that RetroStudios created in their Prime games is incredible, but the fact that that atmosphere was originally from a 2D game is arguably even more impressive. I also can't believe we had a whole conversation about Shadow of the Colossus while ICO gets thrown on the wayside. I played the former and share Garnt's take, but when I played ICO afterwards I fell in love with it.
I played through super metroid a couple days ago and goddamn what an infuriating and baffling experience it was. I didn't even care about vibes, just about trying to find the way to go by bomb jumping into random invisible paths and hidden blocks for upgrades.
A lot of "I made it the fuck up" in the Halo section, Garnt saying there was no PC port of Halo 1 (there was, made by Gearbox Software), Connor saying that it's based on a book (tie-in books were based on the game, not the other way around)
@@BlanKaiX halo 1 had a pc port shortly after the original xbox version came out. halo 2 didn't get a pc version until years after when microsoft was trying to use the games for windows label to help sell windows 8
not really, this is the only trash taste video i ever disliked, they didn't really try here, just rage baiting, no coherent argument, this one was a little hard to watch, you can tell they're running out of things to talk about every week
It’s so funny to watch them try and formulate an opinion about a game they either dont remember too fondly or never played at all and it ends up with them making up some random shit LMAO
As someone who has played through RDR2 twice and RDR once, I don’t find 2 to be very tedious. The story is so captivating and I was so fully immersed that I didn’t care about any tedium.
0:35 Conner: “I’m worried cuz I think that people get annoyed at our anime takes I feel like people are going to really annoyed…” Yeah accurate prediction Conner. In comments all those gamers who hid in the bush came out and angrily argued against and roasted you guys’ takes
I love Connor's reaction every time someone talks about "the Vibe" since the infamous "the Vibe" dispute, like he's so close to bust and call their shit out every. Single. Time.
This was some of the hardest moments of Trash Taste to listen to as a gamer from the 70's. LOL Their takes are so strange. Their knowledge of some of these games was poultry at best. But... I had fun listening to it regardless.
Fighting Game Community (FGC) member here! The Fighting Game Community is basically in 3 camps these days: The 3D fighter - you can move in 3D space (Tekken, Soul Calibur, Dead or Alive), the 2D/3D fighter - you can only move left and right (Street Fighter, King of Fighters, Samurai Showdown), and the Anime Fighter - very fast combat, air dashes, very flashy (Guilty Gear, Blaz Blue, Dragonball FighterZ, Granblue). The 'best' games that people agree on are A.) Ones that offer a cast that is both memorable and offer a variety of technique-styles that allow flexibility B.) Offer a high skill celling that lets dedicated players to focus on mind games with their opponent rather than character gimmicks C.) Offers the ability to fight swiftly and accurately online - Rollback Netcode is required for any current gen fighter to have a chance at success
Soul Calibur also was rated so high because the visual fidelity was unmatched for years after it came out. It blew my mind when i played it on my friends Dreamcast.
The only other 3D fighter that matched its influence would be the aforementioned Virtua Fighter, which Soulcalibur (and Tekken for that matter) pulled inspiration from.
@@smsry I dont agree with trash talking shadow of colossus but the argument if x wasnt there y wouldnt exist is so shit because mid games can inspire better games. Just because something is inspired by something else doesnt make it automatically of the same caliber. If a game with good ideas but poor execution inspires a game with the same ideas and much better execution then its just better
Ikr. Like I get re4 not having the best of plots. But he played the remake that made the plot super interesting AND it kept the campiness of the original. And he doesn't remember shit. And don't even get me started on their plot summary of re8 😭 Trash taste lives upto it's name
I played until like the 3rd Colossus and stopped, it was a bit boring for my taste nowadays but it's completely my fault. The game is literal magic, it's really simple but I feel like I'm in an epic tale, and those boss fights are beautiful. I didn't even consider them as fights, just an experience.
Garnt just doesn't get vibes (slice of life or ghibli movies included), Connor gets it but he won't play it, and if he does play it he already talked shit so he'll only double down, Joey is awright like usual
I hate but agreed at it the same time. Maybe it's the jrpg player in me, byt i found the game boring. But i do like games like dante's inferno so im not qualified to give my opinion on this matter.
I think if I played it back when it came out I would have loved it too, I watched a let's play of it back years ago and thought it was amazing and then I tried the Remake like a year ago or something and was so disappointed it was so boring and empty the vibes weren't vibing for me
u srsly think how hard TT fell off, that they could afford or name pull guests - maybe only if theyre in town anyway and bigger ones can advertise something.
This whole episode is like when Kurama told Sasuke he reminded him of Madara Uchiha and Sasuke responded with, “Never heard of him. Am I supposed to care?” 💀
00:56:09 Uncharted is SO FUN, it was basically Indiana Jones on steroids, and the protagonist (Nathan Drake) gets into the most absurd and physics-defying situations ever. Like on one moment you would be solving some weird-ass puzzles, but then right after that, you have to survive the most ridiculous "life or death" situations. Like both the villains and fucking nature itself try their darn hardest on trying to fucking kill you. 🤣
Shadow of the collosus captures lonelness and the feeling of hopelessness more than everything I've ever played. It is a buetiful deconstruction of being powerless to change things but trying anyway.
Bro every time Garnt is trying to justify not playing a game that many other people consider good he just puts on a mocking voice and tries to minimize it when he literally knows nothing about it. I genuinely don’t understand why but aye if that’s the hill you wanna die on, go off king 😂
People really buy into their devil’s advocate lmao. As I said, all these indoor NEET hikikomori gamers got pissed by the boys’ devil’s advocates and all came out from their hiding bush
For real, man. At first, I wasn't too fond of it, but when I completed the 4th chapter and THAT plot twist happened, I knew I was in front of something really special. After that point, it just went uphill and never stopped. The last chapter is just the single best thing I've seen in a video game and probably in any form of media. The only thing I didn't like was the ending itself, but Reincarnation was able to completely fix it, at least in my opinion (I know a lot of people didn't like Reincarnation).
loved hearing them talk about how some of the games shaped their childhoods and how much of a cultural phenomenon they perceived the others to be from the outside. very entertaining
I loved this episode!! But I think it would be so fun and interesting to make a part 2 of it with Pete since he's so passionate about games AND they could confront each other with different experiences and knowledge
What's sad is that Disco Elysium, one of the best games of all time, woulda been on this list but Metacritic is stupid so they used the PS5 version (which got 89) instead of the PC version (which got a 97)
The entire "of all time" bit is just absurd comparing games from the 90s or even 80s to the ones the came out last year is just pointless. Like my favorite game ever is Fallout 2 but i can't imagine anyone playing it and having a good time today. As far as i could tell after watching the ep the boys are mainly console gamers so they don't know a lot of the PC classics while i don't know a lot of the console hits.
“GEN Z probably didn’t understand how insane the Wii was” there wasn’t a single 5-8 year old child in 2006 that DIDN’T want to get their hands on a Wii💀 but I get it, there probably wasn’t any internet in wales during that time period to see all the headlines of people camping outside a GameStop to get one
@@ChrisPC1 funny part is you’re kinda not wrong lmao💀 according to google Gen Z starts around 1997 and he was born in July the year before, man is BARELY a millennial 😂😂 most true millennials wouldn’t consider him one
@@witcherye it’s funny when people think that Gen Z are iPad kids, pretty much like Conner, who’s practically Gen Z himself💀 I remember when the first iPad came out I was 9 idk why people think we grew up using Apple products, I remember still using VHS at home until we got a dvd player lmao
1:11:19 The House in Fata Morgana is a visual novel. It's a must read imo. One of the best stories in animanga and adjacent stories (Shoutout to Umineko too) I don't really think of it as a video game though.
guys he is a fata morgana fan. every single fata fan knows how highly rated it is on metacritic and so like me he knew immediately to skip to that part of the episode
Yeah it’s hard to understand now the mainstream cultural impact THPS had when it was released. It was hard to find someone that hadn’t played it at the time.
Garnt definitely lost this round of Trash Taste. Saying that Super Metroid doesn't have the vibe when it literally invented the vibe that Metroid Prime was going for. It's one of the most critically aclaimed and influential games of all time, it's not that shocking that someone likes it better than Prime.
"Joey, also known as The Anime Man, has shared his opinions on "The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time" and "Majora's Mask" in various videos and discussions. He appreciates both games for their unique qualities and contributions to the Zelda series. However, Joey tends to lean towards "Majora's Mask" for its darker tone, innovative time mechanics, and the depth of its side quests and characters. He finds "Majora's Mask" to be a more unique and engaging experience despite the initial learning curve of its time system" - ChatGPT
@@Jepze158I think it’s cuz non gamers also owned a Wii whereas no families are buying a xbox. I played Wii at every family gathering growing up and at friends houses, I only finally got a ps3 when elder scrolls came out
Well you also have to remember that it was far cheaper to buy a wii($250) than an Xbox 360($299 base) or a ps3($499 base) for that matter. You think parents or grandparents cared which game box they got for their kid when they could get a wii for $250 and it had the motion gimmick that would satisfy every child.
@@Pekara121???? Wii sports underrated?? That shit was the best rated game when the Wii came out… since it was the most family game night games ever to be made in gaming history. I still remember my mom and dad was about to box each other because of Wii tennis
Joey: Huge contrarian snob that likes to trash on popular titles occasionally. Also, mostly play the most niche games. Conner: Would only play streamer games, and the rest he hadn't played is trash. Grant: Least trash taste of the 3... not like the bar is that high tho. Verdict: The name of this podcast is mighty fitting for this episode.
29:46 ICO is the game that inspired many game developers to make great games later. It's the game that everyone's favourite video games' developer played and loved.
Comments Seething on people having different opinion on video games will always be weird to me, especially in a medium where one would prefer the other
Same thing as when they did the "recognize game sounds" After Dark stream and had no idea what Disco Elysium was. From what I've seen they are just not into western cRPGs (except Garnt and Mass Effect), so I wouldn't expect them to know one from 1999, no matter how legendary it is.
@@animdalf9178 yah, i mean, if you consider Interactive fiction as crpg, it's kind of THE OG computer game ever... It's said that they have no idea about the genra(even though interested in BG3)
For the most part, I agree or at least understand their perspective. You can't expect them to have the same perspective as everyone else, like people who are really passionate about a particular video game.
skateboarding nearly died in the early 90's. THPS1 came out in 99, and definitly boomed skateboardings popularity in the early 00's which might be the most populair skating has ever been. but i cant believe THPS3 is on this list and not THPS2. that one is soo much more iconic.
The House in Fata Morgana is the GOAT and the best game covered in this episode. It also didn't come out last year, it originally released in Japan back in 2012. I'm shocked Joey didn't know this one since he was big into visual novels back then and loves horror manga / anime.
14:51 good neutral game, good balance, high skill cap where there's nearly limitless potential to learn something new, high reward for technical maneuvers
Skyrim is the 8th most sold game ever made, and for the first half of its lifespan since release less than 10% of players ever used mods. Skyrim is incredibly popular in addition to being the most popular modded game.
@@Jepze158Yeah, the most vocal part of the community are modders cause they're the ones still playing the game. But those who say "game is soooo Bad without mods" turn the game into some lame ass korean mmo with mods and don't even actually play it cause their save corrupt after 5 hours. Mods are great for replayability but they definitly don't turn the game from mid to masterpiece. Skyrim is an AMAZING game by itself (tho it aged a bit) and some mods are crazy good but the reasons why so many people mod it is because so many people loved the base game.
As someone with thousands of hours in Skyrim holding it as my favorite game ever Skyrim is very 50/50. The vanilla game despite being flawed in basically every aspect, lack of meaningful choices, combat, dated graphics, clunky gameplay, mediocre writing and quest design, etc. Despite all of that, actually just playing Skyrim is super fun and worth playing all these years later even vanilla. Especially on pc where when you inevitably encounter game breaking bugs, you can fix them with console commands.
@@mrswag2866agreed I absolutely love modding and i've done it basically as long as i've played the game, but i mod with intent that i will play the game unlike a lot of people that mod for the fun of modding with no intention of playing. I also hate those "modern AAA next gen realistic 2024" garbage.
Just talking about the games the stories are pretty bad and they essentially repeat the same story three times. Fun games to play but the stories in just the games as you're playing them aren't very good
@@3xchrisx3 are you talking about the first three? because none of that is true for them. There is one story that continues through the three, not three seperate similar stories. this just tells me that either youre not talking about pre halo 4 halo, or you skipped important story and character moments.
@@Lemonaddde I am talking about Halo 1-3 and yes they do just repeat the same story beats. Every single game is kicked off with the Covenant, then you find out about a Halo, then you start fighting the flood, then you fight a mix of both. Even Guilty Spark just constantly fulfills the same role. They're rehashes of the same plot done three times
@@3xchrisx3 if you boil it down that much EVERY story is the same bro. Halo 1 you're a soldier on an isolated ship that crash-lands on a mysterious alien megastructure. You fight through it searching for a means of escape, and discover in the process that it is some kind of ancient super-weapon. Your objective is redirected to taking control of it and using it against your foes, but then you run into a bunch of those foes already dead, killed by something else entirely. The first half of that level plays like a horror game, until you find the recording of your own men, dead by the same mysterious cause, revealing it to be some kind of parasitic swarm, whereupon you're immediately beset by them. They come in massive waves, relentless and uncountable, your ammunition being exhausted just fighting them off. You manage to make your way to safety, and suddenly are taken by a mysterious construct that suddenly appears. It calls itself the custodian of this place. It guides you on the path to activating the weapon, revealing its true purpose to be to defeat this new menace, and you almost do it, until you discover it was (kind of unintentionally) manipulating you, and that the weapon kills all sentient life in the galaxy to starve the parasites - the only way to defeat them. Now, you're no longer on a mission to survive and escape, or to defeat your enemy, or to wipe out this new threat - you're on a desperate mission, with no backup, no support, and no recourse - to prevent the galactic apocalypse. When you finally do it, you manage to sacrifice almost everyone and everything left on that place to destroy the weapon and escape. Halo 2 begins with a celebration of your deeds back on your home planet, when suddenly the enemy attacks. You repel their strangely small force, but not before an entire city is lost, even against this tiny fraction of their full power, hammering home the desperation of the war. But you also follow them on their retreat, after finding out the attack was a premature advance of a force not prepared for an assault on their enemy's central command - they were here for some other reason in the first place. For now, you can only follow them, where you discover another megastructure. Knowing the power and danger it poses, you go on to once again attempt to prevent its activation. In the middle of this, you also play as the leader of your enemies from the previous game. Branded a heretic and a failure, it is sent on a suicide mission to deal with dissidents, but discovers instead that his leaders are a farce, that they are headed to doom, and that they've even betrayed him and his loyal comrades. The paths of the 2 characters converge when they are taken by a great eldritch intelligence - the parasite still endures, and unlike the mindless swarm it appeared to be originally, it is sapient, it is intelligent, and it has bore witness to untold millennia of history, knows more than can be known - and needs you both to stop the death of all things. Reluctantly you do as it bids - your goals happen to align this once, and faced with oblivion you have no other choice - and destroy another superweapon. However, in the process, the infection spreads to the vast metropolis of the enemy and your own ships - it has the numbers and the means to consume everything in existence. And the leader of your foes, hellbent on activating the weapons that will wipe out all life, has escaped to the central command of those weapons. Everything is on the line now. Now, I never had an xbox growing up, so i've only played the series for the first time recently with the Master Chief Collection, and haven't actually played 3 yet (going through it with a friend who's also never played it, so with scheduling it's slow-going) but just the difference between 1 and 2 is already clearly visible. Anything is the same when boiled down enough. Hell, i could just say "the game is just shoot guy, get in cover, regain health, shoot more, advance down linear path until level is over" and that would describe not just all halo games but all linear shooters in general.
I just have no idea how the boys never played Tekken 3, GTA IV, RDR2, or Skyrim, like were they just living under a rock when these games came out? Tekken 3 in the 90s was the hottest fighting game on the market, it literally got people into fighting games. GTA IV was massive when it came out, RDR2 was huge, Skyrim was literally everywhere in memes, in discussion, in everywhere in 2011, like these games were unavoidable, it's crazy they haven't played them.
What makes a good fighting game IMO: -Player expression (like any other kind of game that lefts you with a sense of awe) -Consistency within it's mechanic and a sense of "fairness" (Combos are cool and all but you don't see MUGEN games or that old Sailor moon game as the best, which every character has a 2 button infinite even if it's kinda fun) -Character design (if you don't vibe with any of the roster visually or mechanically you are not gonna get interested in the game beside something like "Footsies", "Nidhogg")
It is a bit difficult to listen to this being a couple years older than the guys and having a much better memory of the context in which these games were released at the time. For instance Ocarina of Time was a very early amazing 3d gaming experience that drew you into the story, it is easy to forget that Pokemon first came out just prior to Ocarina of Time and even with it being the billion dollar franchise that it is, took it 20 years just to reach Ocarina of Time levels of 3d gaming. Also imagine a game holding the top #1 best game spot for 2 years running nowadays, it is unfathomable for this day and age. Whereas Majora's Mask by comparison felt like an iteration on top of Ocarina of Time, and quickly became over-shadowed by news of the upcoming Gamecube release. Edit 1- Connor remembered the emotions behind the Wind Waker release really well, we were expecting something bigger and darker and with next gen graphics. We got a cartoon. Edit 2- The guys actually spoke quite intelligently about those games they were able to live through the context of its release at the time, I am impressed. I do however LOVE that one of my childhood favorites that never gets mentioned was brought up- I spent so many hours playing Mystical Ninja 64, and here in the U.S. it felt like nobody had ever heard of it.
Tbf he didn't say it was bad but he missed the point of the game completely. Complaining about simplicity of the gameplay in a game that is designed with minimalism in mind is just peeing your foot. And sure, one could say "how am I supposed to know that" but with only the fact that there's no other fights outside the boss fights I feel is enough to get the idea
>Gamer episode
>Man who only plays gachas
>Man who doesnt play games
>Man who skips cutscenes and wonders why story is confusing
>Tomato
Bruh, I forgot that Connor skips cut scenes!!!! That makes so much sense. Man, they know nothing. Joey knows the most but clearly leans more to the Japanese games, thus not being too much of a fan of Western games.
is Joey supposed to be the one who doesnt play games? He has basically played every Nintendo game in existence.
@@oliver-04i think he meant Garnt, he doesn't play much games
@@dipteshdas6758nah garnt is the one who plays only gacha games for sure. and Joey hasn't played mainstream games, he loves his whole nostalgia "old is gold" shit
@@sruto he seems to have played all the mainstream Nintendo games.
your comment doesn't really make sense
"Gen Z can't appreciate how popular the Wii was."
We were 5 when it came out, Connor, we were _raised_ by the Wii!
Mind you Connor said this as a man who barely qualifies as a millennial 💀 had he’d been born half a year later he’d be trash talking himself, dude was 10 when the Wii dropped idk how he assumes gen Z wasn’t born yet by then
Heck, my cousins are gen alpha and every time they come to visit they love playing the Wii
Correction: some of us were at least 8-10 years old when it came out LMAO
Remember when my grandma bought me one when I turned 9.
To this day the best gift someone ever gave me.
That comment threw me for a loop, cause I'm pretty sure Connor qualifies as Gen Z by most standards.
Hearing them talk about some of your favorite games/series' that you know for a fact they don't know too much about is like really funny 😭
clearly they don't know anything about videogames and they're talking out of their asses.
I just started watching and from looking at the time stamps and the duration of each one, I know I’m going to cringe at their thoughts for Tekken 3 (for example) because they don’t know ANYTHING about fighting games, especially Tekken…💀
EDIT: I stand corrected. From The Uncharted/Naughty Dog slander to the Resident Evil series... just kill me.
Their tastes are unironically trash.
Joey: gamer snob who only likes niche games and typically trashes on popular titles.
Conner: if he didn't play it, it's trash.
Grant: takes aren't crazy and at least is a bit knowledgeable and open minded.
This is what I took from this episode as a casual gamer. Not hating on the boys but their takes ain't it this time.
They aren’t Maxwell's demon they don’t know everything for sure
@L2-L2 Joey: Plays only RPGs and Nintendo games.
Garnt: Plays only RPGS and gacha.
Connor: Plays only FPS games and streamer games, then proceeds to call every other game that aren't those shit.
Garnt saying he doesn't have enough time to play Baldurs Gate is the biggest cap when you know he wants to finish the entire Trail series.
When you know he wastes his time playing Genshin
well that’s just it, his time is spent playing those games LOL no time for baldur’s gate
I mean there's you're explanation right there for why he doesn't have time for BG3
@@Kiboune_YTI mean genshin is a side game, that won’t stop anyone from playing loads of other games. I know a lot of genshin players who have hundreds of hours in BG3. I kinda just believe that it’s just not his thing (he even said “it’s not a JRPG” and in a lot of past episodes he mentioned he doesn’t like when a game doesn’t have one specific storyline, and choices effect the gaming experience), but doesn’t wanna admit it since BG3 is massively popular
Garnt is a tales fan not a trails fan
I love how Connor described resident evil 5 as "so they all have a sickness and I have to shoot them all" My brother in Christ that's literally every resident evil game XD
I think he was just too uncomfortable to acknowledge that you spend the entire game shooting Africans as a white guy lol
Think he was stepping around the whole silly "controversy" of that game with it being in Africa so most of the infected are black. Which has always been a dumb take to me.
@@randallrobertson6042 congratulations your a normal person with a normal take, the brain rot has luckily not gotten to you man XP
@@randallrobertson6042 Yeah anyone who hasn't touched RE5 says that because people on Twitter say it too lmao, also the whole "sickness" thing, Connor and Joey "played" RE but somehow don't know it's an artificially created virus in every game that was spread around for bioterrorism purposes, this is the most basic RE lore and they somehow don't know it it's really funny that they would just go with the weird Twitter people take 😭
@@closetBK1350they literally said they don’t remember, they’re definitely not on twitter for this 😭
I think "We're fake gamers" sums up this episode pretty well.
totally!
Oh no!...
Ong bro
@@Cae17617 stop glazing
Video games are my biggest passion…and ever since the start of this podcast I have learned not to take a gaming opinion from the bois seriously because if I did I would pop a blood vessel…
You guys don’t remember just how big San Andreas was when it came out. It had people waiting in line at midnight before Call of Duty did.
goated game still holds up
San Andreas and 4 for me are neck and neck. And I got nostalgia for both. Just such good games.
I think San Andreas is where GTA peaked Vice City being close second.
That game hasn't aged a single day, Peak GTA game
DUDE San Andreas was awesome and its silly co-op feature was fun to mess around with when friends would come over and trying to survive 6 stars wanted with a buddy was crazy, one of the MANY problems the re-released "definitive edition" trilogy had was removing it
This should create some "worst takes" or "best arguments" nominees for next year
Worst takes goes to joey
Worst take goes to Garnt and Connor. Tony Hawk game better than Shadow Of The Colossus? I actually yelled "Bullsh!t" so loud my cat thought she was in trouble.
@@chazzergamer Depends. There's lots of down time on Shadow of the colossus. Tony hawk is a better game since....you know you're actually playing the game all the time lol.
@@NinjapowerMScompletely different games tbh
@@NinjapowerMSsotc is a 6/20 game with 12/10 moments, which I prefer over a consistent 7.5/10 game.
The downtime between bosses is part of what made the atmosphere of the game so good
Dude, the fact that Garnt goes around talking about "vibe this vibe that" but he doesn't get Shadow of the Colossus which is one of the most "vibe" games ever is so funny to me. But hey, trash taste innit
Edit: Also paraphrasing "Aggro was a dick, it was almost like riding a real horse" ASDFGADDSFDGH no comment
LMAO so true
@@flosscap but tbh I can see Connor not liking it. SotC if You know what to do is quite easy, like it doesnt require mechanichal ability due to its simplistic nature so it's not enough to satisfy suuuch a gamer 🙄
The Aggro take was so bad. Aggro was THE videogame horse, nothing came even close until RDR. Seriously, what?
@@carlossantana9645 literally Aggro did all the steering herself, that's the funniest part about it LMAO
@@carlossantana9645I would say THE video game horse was and is epona
I think having Maximilian Dood or WoolieVersus come in and explain fighting games to the boys would be an interesting episode.
Or just a collab stream, yeah. But that will probably never happen.
Max Guest episode would be insane
"I dont have enough time to play this game" Runs off to play JRPGs.
nah I get it. In JRPGs you can kinda turn off your brain and play an it is at most 100 hours whereas in a game like balder's gate you have to have your brain on which feels way longer in perspective. For example 100 hours of persona 5 felt like nothing but 100 hours of Zelda tears of the kingdom had me feel like I spent 400 hours in game
Connor usually plays MP games, Both Gigguk and Joey play nothing but JRPGs. So they don't play other games genre and they talk about shit without any information and not understanding context or consoles history etc..
@@InugamiTheHoundand?
@@InugamiTheHound that’s why it’s our job to bully Nintendo preachers
@@shauryasuri3653Honestly if a game can keep you engaged throughout its entire runtime like Bg3, the length shouldn't matter whether you turn your brain on or off if you enjoy your time playing the game itself.
The whole video was nearly unwatchable, keep up the great work guys!
lmao, at least they could try to pretend they have takes and not just coming up with it on the spot
I was so hyped to hear the boys talking about games. I'm 13 minutes in and I already regret it, they talking about fighting games is physically hurting me. I was not ready.
The FGC is a very tightly knit circle, but it's not nearly as big as it was. I'd love to sit down and debate why Tekken 5 was the best of its series and why we should I thank Daigo Umehara for making the fighting games relevant in pop culture but...we're a dying breed.
I’m surprised Soul Calibur I was the only fighter on the list.
Personally, I prefer Soul Calibur II (PS2) as I had so many good memories playing in my childhood.
…still sucked ass on it, though.
Yeah episodes where they talk about specific topics like this, movies, or anime I can not watch. It's embarrassing to hear them talk so passionate about something they have no idea about.
@@Wolfedge75 The SC had a lot of single player content that not many fighters provide any more. Owing perhaps to its lengthy arcade origins, fighting game developers have not adjusted well to the console/PC movement until the last few years. SF5 vanilla was horrible...
I have fond memories of SC2. Ivy had an impossible command and the tip was just to spin the stick 3 circles. 😁
@@ElricZbro you are such a sweaty gamer. Let other people have opinions and talk about things casually
Connor: This game sucks!
Also Connor: I've not played this game
Average Twitter game review
That shadow of the Colossus take was horrendous.
Literally some of the most amazing atmosphere in any game. Some of the best enemy designs ever. The sheer scale and epicness of the battles is just pure cinema. It's fucking awesome
Pronouncing Tomatoes > Game Rating Debate
Peak beginning
⁰
Truly one of the debate of this season
Tomato potato all the same
I pronounce tomatoes completely differently. I emphasise the first syllable. After that, I say "mø̞" then I do the rest of it the normal way.
if this is how anime fans feel when they talk about anime then i really feel for yall lmao
That's the thing about this trio. They drive their audience absolutely nuts when they talk about anything EXCEPT anime. When they talk anime and manga they actually sound like coherent people. When they talk about any other topic it always makes me wonder how they are even functioning adults in society.
@@ktvindicarecould you further explain?
@@MrKynzer Go watch the clip about the bread debate, or listen to Joey try and explain why steak is mid, or listen to them attempt to rank beer or any number of things. These dudes are nuts.
This episode right here is enough proof that we need a worst episode award for TTA
@@ktvindicare I would say it's the other way around, when they don't talk about anime they are having some good ass banter, with some wild takes every now and then. The thing is that when somebody has a weird take there is always a member to take the opposite side, so I genuinely never really feel worked up about it. I mean, in the first place their wild takes don't really come up that often. And let's be honest, everybody has some unique takes on their side. Really weird to expect them to have the most generic society conforming opinions on everything.
And when it comes to anime talk, they are definitely driving the audience nuts comparatively to their normal episodes. Joey likes to minimize a lot of shows, not only that but he voices his opinions in such a way that it seems almost condescending. Connor can be ruthless with his opinions, without trying to understand the appeal behind certain shows. It's not really a big deal, but definitely pisses some people off when they are talking about something that has a lot of passionate people behind it. Garnt I feel like is the only one that is understanding of how audience can take those opinions, and usually tries to be at least supporting of both sides, with some rare cases when he is negative which usually comes from an understandable place.
1:11:21 Everyone who has even the slightest interest in Visual Novels or even books should read House in Fata Morgana (and not stop after the first few doors/story arcs). The 2nd half especially has some of the most engrossing writing and the best romance I've ever seen. Certainy deserves it's Metascore, life changing game.
It's an absolute masterpiece. I owned a physical version when I had a Switch and now since I just do all my gaming on my laptop, I wish Reincarnation would get a Steam release. Lots of people didn't like how they changed the art style but the story was brilliant for an "after story" to the main game.
Also if enjoyed that then I have some other brilliant recommendations
Island
Seven Days
Bokuten: Why I Became an Angel (18+)
The Fruit of Grisaia (18+)
Shining Song Starnova (18+)
Corpse Factory
It’s def on my list! I’m just eating thru the meh otome visual novels before I get into good ones. Saving the best for last >:)
i will if you play my fav vn too (white album 2)(i have afeeling you already do)
I'm going to hard disagree. If you don't like it after the first few doors just walk away. It isn't for you and you are wasting your time.
Man the comments section is not happy today lmao
They not like us
They not like us
lol ye. I'm not a gamer so I'm not getting as passionate as other about the bois' take
yea lol. im not a gamer so idc but i can understand other peoples frustration 😭
@@Libo1595as a gamer he’ll yeah it’s frustrating I’m replaying RE5 and idk it seems to me when Joey mentions it’s in Africa he sounds like that’s some big issue when I mean. African zombies. Aren’t rac1st in Africa. People would throw a bigger fit if the game took place in Africa and it was just white guys. I do agree with some of the other things but Connor saying they infected and you shoot them like yeah. But that’s all games in the entire series. That’s where the original Japanese name comes form “biohazard”
Problem with Metacritic is some games (especially older ones) only have 20+ reviews, which is why it has a near perfect average scores.
Whereas modern games have much more reviews, (90+) which makes it much harder to get a high score.
Plus more video game news outlet today than before.
glitchwave is better, its basically MAL but for videogames
@@Catwithsunglasses_ Nah, backloggd is way way bigger.
I guess that makes BotW and BG3 being that high pretty impressive then
@Catwithsunglasses_ MyVideoGameList is literally just that.
Conner killed the explanation for any take on this podcast for the foreseeable future with "The Vibe"
nope he didn't. Vibe depends on you. You can enjoy something where others don't.
Would you say you don't vibe with the vibe?
Vibe is valid if used correctly but it's in every damn sentence they say lol
I'm not sure they're doing it ironically cuz they do record at least 2 episodes at once
@@shadmanbashar6067 Stop glazing
“Does halo have a good story?” Shows that this episode is peak trash taste
I mean I am not surprised. Tons of players did the same in COD. Jumped straight into Multiplayer.
the tv show episode was worse
@@ParadoX-osthe only thing interest me about story in halo was arbiter and Noble team
Halo 2 and reach are the best
THANK YOU. I was thinking I was the only one who thought how outrageous that comment was. Garnts cool, but he doesn’t know when something clearly doesn’t click with him.
@@guilhermepupo2840the correct opinion
Joey saying “never heard of it” about Ico… bruh
That’s surprising from him that game was huge in Japan
Can't believe boys didn't know about fata morgana.
It's such a joey game tbh
Garnt saying Super Metroid has zero vibes when the Metroid Prime devs literally sat down to play and take notes from Super is insane. The atmosphere that RetroStudios created in their Prime games is incredible, but the fact that that atmosphere was originally from a 2D game is arguably even more impressive.
I also can't believe we had a whole conversation about Shadow of the Colossus while ICO gets thrown on the wayside. I played the former and share Garnt's take, but when I played ICO afterwards I fell in love with it.
the feeling i got after shadow of the colossus are so memorable to the experince of that game
@@0khalilose0avion is one of the most exhilarating bosses of all time
@@Sephirothkingdom782 which one is ICO
I played through super metroid a couple days ago and goddamn what an infuriating and baffling experience it was. I didn't even care about vibes, just about trying to find the way to go by bomb jumping into random invisible paths and hidden blocks for upgrades.
Yeah Garnt only knows waifus and isekai. Trash taste is definitely a fitting name for the podcast
A lot of "I made it the fuck up" in the Halo section, Garnt saying there was no PC port of Halo 1 (there was, made by Gearbox Software), Connor saying that it's based on a book (tie-in books were based on the game, not the other way around)
Insane how confident he was saying it didn't come out on PC
@@NooJiesnah he said it didn’t come out on pc at launch which is true
@@BlanKaiX halo 1 had a pc port shortly after the original xbox version came out. halo 2 didn't get a pc version until years after when microsoft was trying to use the games for windows label to help sell windows 8
he didnt say it has no PC port, he said the PC port wasnt there when it was first launch and was only an xbox exclusive
The beauty of Trash Taste.
This was one of the most painful episodes for me personally, but dayum, it's fun to watch them talk about some games they barely know at all
not really, this is the only trash taste video i ever disliked, they didn't really try here, just rage baiting, no coherent argument, this one was a little hard to watch, you can tell they're running out of things to talk about every week
Same
It’s so funny to watch them try and formulate an opinion about a game they either dont remember too fondly or never played at all and it ends up with them making up some random shit LMAO
As someone who has played through RDR2 twice and RDR once, I don’t find 2 to be very tedious. The story is so captivating and I was so fully immersed that I didn’t care about any tedium.
It's very long but in a way that makes it immensely captivating, similar to something like one piece
0:35 Conner: “I’m worried cuz I think that people get annoyed at our anime takes I feel like people are going to really annoyed…”
Yeah accurate prediction Conner. In comments all those gamers who hid in the bush came out and angrily argued against and roasted you guys’ takes
Good
Trash taste in the nutshell
Stupidity needs to be recognized
@@rico3285 wdym
I love Connor's reaction every time someone talks about "the Vibe" since the infamous "the Vibe" dispute, like he's so close to bust and call their shit out every. Single. Time.
Time for connor to glaze Elden Ring but refuse to play Dark Souls for whatever reason.
The difference is Dark Souls is good so he's not going to play it
I have a very strong feeling he’s not going to like Dark Souls
I don't like open world games so I don't like Elden Ring but love Dark Souls :). I turned Elden Ring into a boss gauntlet, got bored, and quit lol.
connor needs to larp as a gamer because he streams on twitch and plays games maybe once a month
@@mbressette and elden ring isn’t?😭 Its the best fromsoft game oat and its not close
Next theme for podcast, let’s review poetry and books that we’ve never read. 😂
This was some of the hardest moments of Trash Taste to listen to as a gamer from the 70's. LOL Their takes are so strange. Their knowledge of some of these games was poultry at best. But... I had fun listening to it regardless.
Fighting Game Community (FGC) member here! The Fighting Game Community is basically in 3 camps these days: The 3D fighter - you can move in 3D space (Tekken, Soul Calibur, Dead or Alive), the 2D/3D fighter - you can only move left and right (Street Fighter, King of Fighters, Samurai Showdown), and the Anime Fighter - very fast combat, air dashes, very flashy (Guilty Gear, Blaz Blue, Dragonball FighterZ, Granblue).
The 'best' games that people agree on are
A.) Ones that offer a cast that is both memorable and offer a variety of technique-styles that allow flexibility
B.) Offer a high skill celling that lets dedicated players to focus on mind games with their opponent rather than character gimmicks
C.) Offers the ability to fight swiftly and accurately online - Rollback Netcode is required for any current gen fighter to have a chance at success
All true
I wouldn't call GBVS an anime fighter, rising is closer to one but it still lacks certain anime fighting aspects
You didn't count arena/platform fighter like Power stone or Smash bros.?
This is why xrd will be one of my favorites of all time
@@trymepoppo those have their own circles and are often not considered part of thr fgc
Soul Calibur also was rated so high because the visual fidelity was unmatched for years after it came out. It blew my mind when i played it on my friends Dreamcast.
The only other 3D fighter that matched its influence would be the aforementioned Virtua Fighter, which Soulcalibur (and Tekken for that matter) pulled inspiration from.
Yup, it was one of the first home console games that had real parity with its arcade counterpart, the definition of "arcade perfect".
. . . Hearing them trash talk Shadow of the Colossus. I've never.. had such a paradigm shift in how I viewed Connor and Garnt. Joey gets it.
its doubly funny they glaze Elden Ring so hard later when If Shadow and Ico didnt exist, Miyazaki wouldve never thought up of Dark souls.
@@smsry I dont agree with trash talking shadow of colossus but the argument if x wasnt there y wouldnt exist is so shit because mid games can inspire better games. Just because something is inspired by something else doesnt make it automatically of the same caliber. If a game with good ideas but poor execution inspires a game with the same ideas and much better execution then its just better
@@smsry you got a source for that? cause it seems like horseshit
@@smsry that argument is just silly, cmon now
dude garnt said he prefers GoT later seasons.
Hearing Connor talk about resident evil was the toughest thing I've ever had to sit through
I genuinely think they play games braindead.
Ikr. Like I get re4 not having the best of plots. But he played the remake that made the plot super interesting AND it kept the campiness of the original. And he doesn't remember shit. And don't even get me started on their plot summary of re8 😭 Trash taste lives upto it's name
Joey not knowing ICO gave me some sort of whiplash.
I’m not sure what’s worse, some of the takes in this episode or the people in the comments unironically referring to themselves as “real gamers”
Garnt's take on Shadow of the Colossus made my brain hurt
Ya played it on my steam deck. And as the podcast rates. I think this was one of the most vibe check games ever
I played until like the 3rd Colossus and stopped, it was a bit boring for my taste nowadays but it's completely my fault. The game is literal magic, it's really simple but I feel like I'm in an epic tale, and those boss fights are beautiful. I didn't even consider them as fights, just an experience.
Garnt just doesn't get vibes (slice of life or ghibli movies included), Connor gets it but he won't play it, and if he does play it he already talked shit so he'll only double down, Joey is awright like usual
I hate but agreed at it the same time. Maybe it's the jrpg player in me, byt i found the game boring. But i do like games like dante's inferno so im not qualified to give my opinion on this matter.
I think if I played it back when it came out I would have loved it too, I watched a let's play of it back years ago and thought it was amazing and then I tried the Remake like a year ago or something and was so disappointed it was so boring and empty the vibes weren't vibing for me
That Shadow of the Colossus section was painful to watch.
They need to get Maximilian dood on here man. I would LOVE to hear them ask Max their questions and learn things about fighting games.
u srsly think how hard TT fell off, that they could afford or name pull guests - maybe only if theyre in town anyway and bigger ones can advertise something.
This whole episode is like when Kurama told Sasuke he reminded him of Madara Uchiha and Sasuke responded with, “Never heard of him. Am I supposed to care?” 💀
As expected, watching these guys express opinions about games they’ve never played is like asking monkeys their opinion about rocket science.
00:56:09 Uncharted is SO FUN, it was basically Indiana Jones on steroids, and the protagonist (Nathan Drake) gets into the most absurd and physics-defying situations ever. Like on one moment you would be solving some weird-ass puzzles, but then right after that, you have to survive the most ridiculous "life or death" situations. Like both the villains and fucking nature itself try their darn hardest on trying to fucking kill you. 🤣
Shadow of the collosus captures lonelness and the feeling of hopelessness more than everything I've ever played. It is a buetiful deconstruction of being powerless to change things but trying anyway.
It's shit
40:43 The silence after Connor said that, LOL
My heart broke when I heard they haven’t played Uncharted 😭😭
Garnt is the Richard Hammond of this podcast, American man with a British accent
Come to think of it, the monke is the orangutan and Joey is James.
Now I know whyI love watching these 3 talk, reminds me of those 3.
HAMMOND¡!!!!!!!
@@navdeepsingh3508this is the best car in the world Hammond pause you idiot
Bro every time Garnt is trying to justify not playing a game that many other people consider good he just puts on a mocking voice and tries to minimize it when he literally knows nothing about it. I genuinely don’t understand why but aye if that’s the hill you wanna die on, go off king 😂
He’s a silly man as seen with his takes on pizza crust as well as condiments. With this in mind it’s understandable why he wants to die on that hill.
Yea but people always react snarky when you haven't played one of the "legends". That attitude you're seeing is probably built in response
The funny thing is that Connor did the exact same thing on other media such as anime, and I didn’t see people like you complaining.
pretty sure he was right every time.
People really buy into their devil’s advocate lmao. As I said, all these indoor NEET hikikomori gamers got pissed by the boys’ devil’s advocates and all came out from their hiding bush
The House in Fata Morgana is peak fiction, one of the best stories ever told, and Joey and Garnt would absolutely love it.
@@motoristacaduco What book would that be? One Hundred Years of Solitude? Doesn’t sound very similar to me. You sure “copy” is the right word?
@@MapoTofu24 Yo if it's like One Hundred Years of Solitude than the game is actually peak fiction. Def gonna check it out.
Hell yes they would. I heard Joey mumble something about checking it out later so hopefully he does. He'd absolutely love it.
@@motoristacaduco I'm colombian and I've read fata. What book did it copy?
For real, man. At first, I wasn't too fond of it, but when I completed the 4th chapter and THAT plot twist happened, I knew I was in front of something really special. After that point, it just went uphill and never stopped. The last chapter is just the single best thing I've seen in a video game and probably in any form of media. The only thing I didn't like was the ending itself, but Reincarnation was able to completely fix it, at least in my opinion (I know a lot of people didn't like Reincarnation).
loved hearing them talk about how some of the games shaped their childhoods and how much of a cultural phenomenon they perceived the others to be from the outside. very entertaining
The house in fata morgana is a masterpiece
Most of MGS2: Yeah it's a weird but good game
The last segment of MGS2: Yeah ok this is getting too fucking real
When the wacky weird game suddenly feels eerily realistic without getting any less weird
interesting that joey calls shadow of the colossus goated right after saying he's never heard of ico
Oh boy...this episode could be the top 10 worst takes of 2024 alone
The house in fata morgana is the greatest piece of fiction ever written
I loved this episode!! But I think it would be so fun and interesting to make a part 2 of it with Pete since he's so passionate about games AND they could confront each other with different experiences and knowledge
What's sad is that Disco Elysium, one of the best games of all time, woulda been on this list but Metacritic is stupid so they used the PS5 version (which got 89) instead of the PC version (which got a 97)
Yikes
I'm glad Disco Elysium dodge the bullet of being talked about
It really isn’t
The entire "of all time" bit is just absurd comparing games from the 90s or even 80s to the ones the came out last year is just pointless. Like my favorite game ever is Fallout 2 but i can't imagine anyone playing it and having a good time today. As far as i could tell after watching the ep the boys are mainly console gamers so they don't know a lot of the PC classics while i don't know a lot of the console hits.
disco elysium is one of the ugliest games ever made so it gets a 1 from me
“GEN Z probably didn’t understand how insane the Wii was” there wasn’t a single 5-8 year old child in 2006 that DIDN’T want to get their hands on a Wii💀 but I get it, there probably wasn’t any internet in wales during that time period to see all the headlines of people camping outside a GameStop to get one
older gen z are practically millennials
Connor is Genz 😂
@@ChrisPC1 funny part is you’re kinda not wrong lmao💀 according to google Gen Z starts around 1997 and he was born in July the year before, man is BARELY a millennial 😂😂 most true millennials wouldn’t consider him one
@@witcherye it’s funny when people think that Gen Z are iPad kids, pretty much like Conner, who’s practically Gen Z himself💀 I remember when the first iPad came out I was 9 idk why people think we grew up using Apple products, I remember still using VHS at home until we got a dvd player lmao
@@Naxatthedoor I was born in 2002 and I remember going to video stores to rent movies with my older brother. I still have my DVD collection
Connor: "I love sunshine a lot too. I just think that this... just edges out a little better for me..."
Joey: *giggling hard asf off camera*
25:09
We have now confirmed for the hundredth time that none of them know anything about games
The House in Fata Morgana is pure art and has a beautiful story that subverts expectations.
1:11:19 The House in Fata Morgana is a visual novel. It's a must read imo. One of the best stories in animanga and adjacent stories (Shoutout to Umineko too) I don't really think of it as a video game though.
The vid was out for 9 mins when you left this comment how are you at 1 hour and 11 minutes
@@haydenthebigbrain4345Patreon early access maybe
@@ayss2611then why not leave the comment on patreon tf
How TF did you listened 1 hour when the video is only 30 mins since upload?
guys he is a fata morgana fan. every single fata fan knows how highly rated it is on metacritic and so like me he knew immediately to skip to that part of the episode
"pete cant stop talking about suikoden 2"
THATS WHY HE'S THE GOAT
Tony Hawks' Pro Skater did the huge influence thing for skateboarding long before the PS2, that was a PS1 phenomenon.
Yeah it’s hard to understand now the mainstream cultural impact THPS had when it was released. It was hard to find someone that hadn’t played it at the time.
really living up to the name of the podcast with this one, great episode guys!
Garnt definitely lost this round of Trash Taste. Saying that Super Metroid doesn't have the vibe when it literally invented the vibe that Metroid Prime was going for. It's one of the most critically aclaimed and influential games of all time, it's not that shocking that someone likes it better than Prime.
I’m grinding for the platinum trophy in Shadow of the Colossus while listening to this just to hear these guys talk trash about it 💀
"Joey, also known as The Anime Man, has shared his opinions on "The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time" and "Majora's Mask" in various videos and discussions. He appreciates both games for their unique qualities and contributions to the Zelda series. However, Joey tends to lean towards "Majora's Mask" for its darker tone, innovative time mechanics, and the depth of its side quests and characters. He finds "Majora's Mask" to be a more unique and engaging experience despite the initial learning curve of its time system"
- ChatGPT
honestly tho it's not even a bad take
I mean it's ocarina of time 2.0 with a beautiful lesson
Some people don't appreciate that the Wii outsold the PS3 & 360 by nearly 20 million consoles.
The Wii was crazy. Wii sports underrated af game.
Which is fucking weird because all people I knew as a kid owned ps3 or 360. I was only one who owned wii in my class room for years.
@@Jepze158I think it’s cuz non gamers also owned a Wii whereas no families are buying a xbox. I played Wii at every family gathering growing up and at friends houses, I only finally got a ps3 when elder scrolls came out
Well you also have to remember that it was far cheaper to buy a wii($250) than an Xbox 360($299 base) or a ps3($499 base) for that matter.
You think parents or grandparents cared which game box they got for their kid when they could get a wii for $250 and it had the motion gimmick that would satisfy every child.
@@Pekara121???? Wii sports underrated?? That shit was the best rated game when the Wii came out… since it was the most family game night games ever to be made in gaming history. I still remember my mom and dad was about to box each other because of Wii tennis
The house in Fata Morgana is genuinely one of the greatest pieces of fiction ever written. It deserves so much more praise.
Getting their girlfriends to review this list would have been a better idea.
I’d love to hear aki talk about Bioshock
actually yes bring aki, sydney and pete to talk about games
34:55 that wAS THE POINT HE WARMED UP TO YOU AS THE GAME PROGRESSED 😂
I'm surprised joey and garnt don't know about fata morgana, what a shocker.
that actually shocked me considering i’ve literally never touched a VN in my life and i still know about fata morgana
Yeah, that shocked me also 😆 .. I've read over 100 since 2021 (thanks to DDLC Plus) and that's in my top 10 for sure.
Joey: Huge contrarian snob that likes to trash on popular titles occasionally. Also, mostly play the most niche games.
Conner: Would only play streamer games, and the rest he hadn't played is trash.
Grant: Least trash taste of the 3... not like the bar is that high tho.
Verdict: The name of this podcast is mighty fitting for this episode.
"Joey snob, upvote to the left"
Joey literally didn't know Chibi robo or Ico, and his contrarian nature was pretty calm this episode wdym
What are people so upset about??? So many crybabies in the comments it hurts
Hearing the word "snob" from you specifically is very ironic...
What are streamer games?
29:46 ICO is the game that inspired many game developers to make great games later.
It's the game that everyone's favourite video games' developer played and loved.
Comments Seething on people having different opinion on video games will always be weird to me, especially in a medium where one would prefer the other
yeah I agree with you it's definitely not something worth being at eachothers throats
the bois predicted it, gamers are weird
"We're fake gamers"
Yes, because nobody made a Suikodeez nuts joke
"planescape torment? never heard of it", come on boies...
Tbf you rarely hear people talk about it outside of certain communities. That said, I am still deeply disappointed. Such a brilliant game.
Same thing as when they did the "recognize game sounds" After Dark stream and had no idea what Disco Elysium was. From what I've seen they are just not into western cRPGs (except Garnt and Mass Effect), so I wouldn't expect them to know one from 1999, no matter how legendary it is.
@@animdalf9178 yah, i mean, if you consider Interactive fiction as crpg, it's kind of THE OG computer game ever... It's said that they have no idea about the genra(even though interested in BG3)
The fact that there wasn't any mention of The Witcher 3 breaks my heart
Connor: "What's the Nintendo game where you play as a plug?"
Garnt:"Chibi-Robo"
*pulls up chibi-robo*
Garnt:"I've never seen this before."
😂
For the most part, I agree or at least understand their perspective. You can't expect them to have the same perspective as everyone else, like people who are really passionate about a particular video game.
The resident evil takes of remembering had me molding lmao 😂
right??? i wanted to cry lol 😭😭 re evil 4 has such special place in my heart and they all be talking outta their 🍑🍑
Connor: "Skateboarding was already big in the '90s!"
The guy that was born on 1997 LMAO
THPS was influential in main stream ways that most games can’t even touch back then too.
*1996
I came here for this comment. He was way too young to know about the 90s.
skateboarding nearly died in the early 90's.
THPS1 came out in 99, and definitly boomed skateboardings popularity in the early 00's which might be the most populair skating has ever been.
but i cant believe THPS3 is on this list and not THPS2. that one is soo much more iconic.
Tf you talking about, how wouldnt he know about the 90s? Its not some secret that dissapeared when 2000 rolled around.
Where's Final Fantasy on this list? I've been bamboozled by the thumbnail 😢
I dunno if you watched the whole podcast in the end but it's briefly mentioned in 01:44:06
Trash taste thumbnail are mostly random, so don't expect anything from it 🤣
Sometimes they just put anime pictures with no correlation at all
FGC ain't gonn be mad at the "what makes a good fighting game?" take. We don't even know what we like.
Playable netcode? Sounds like a low bar, but most can't clear it.
@@kilroy6806 times are changing for the better though.
The House in Fata Morgana is the GOAT and the best game covered in this episode. It also didn't come out last year, it originally released in Japan back in 2012. I'm shocked Joey didn't know this one since he was big into visual novels back then and loves horror manga / anime.
Garnt’s MGS love makes me so proud. My boy knows
This feels like an episode twitter would take too seriously and use it to hate on the boys lmao
Lmao, like the comment session isn't already doing that.
14:51 good neutral game, good balance, high skill cap where there's nearly limitless potential to learn something new, high reward for technical maneuvers
Soul Calibur is so loved because of the Story, characters, narrative and the only fighting game specializing in weapons.
The absolute travesty of not understanding the HYPE of the opening moments of Uncharted 2. My god, still one of my fave video game moments of all time
Skyrim is the 8th most sold game ever made, and for the first half of its lifespan since release less than 10% of players ever used mods. Skyrim is incredibly popular in addition to being the most popular modded game.
Really? All I have ever heard over the years is that Skyrim only becomes interesting when you mod the shit out of it.
@@Jepze158 those were the opinion of those complete the game a thousand times then delve into mods
@@Jepze158Yeah, the most vocal part of the community are modders cause they're the ones still playing the game.
But those who say "game is soooo Bad without mods" turn the game into some lame ass korean mmo with mods and don't even actually play it cause their save corrupt after 5 hours.
Mods are great for replayability but they definitly don't turn the game from mid to masterpiece. Skyrim is an AMAZING game by itself (tho it aged a bit) and some mods are crazy good but the reasons why so many people mod it is because so many people loved the base game.
As someone with thousands of hours in Skyrim holding it as my favorite game ever
Skyrim is very 50/50.
The vanilla game despite being flawed in basically every aspect, lack of meaningful choices, combat, dated graphics, clunky gameplay, mediocre writing and quest design, etc.
Despite all of that, actually just playing Skyrim is super fun and worth playing all these years later even vanilla. Especially on pc where when you inevitably encounter game breaking bugs, you can fix them with console commands.
@@mrswag2866agreed
I absolutely love modding and i've done it basically as long as i've played the game, but i mod with intent that i will play the game unlike a lot of people that mod for the fun of modding with no intention of playing.
I also hate those "modern AAA next gen realistic 2024" garbage.
The disrespect to Halo's beautiful story
Thats what Im saying lol;
The story is so rich with heavy lore [even if you just look at Halo Pre-4], and especially Halo 2's story
Just talking about the games the stories are pretty bad and they essentially repeat the same story three times. Fun games to play but the stories in just the games as you're playing them aren't very good
@@3xchrisx3 are you talking about the first three? because none of that is true for them. There is one story that continues through the three, not three seperate similar stories. this just tells me that either youre not talking about pre halo 4 halo, or you skipped important story and character moments.
@@Lemonaddde I am talking about Halo 1-3 and yes they do just repeat the same story beats. Every single game is kicked off with the Covenant, then you find out about a Halo, then you start fighting the flood, then you fight a mix of both. Even Guilty Spark just constantly fulfills the same role. They're rehashes of the same plot done three times
@@3xchrisx3 if you boil it down that much EVERY story is the same bro.
Halo 1 you're a soldier on an isolated ship that crash-lands on a mysterious alien megastructure. You fight through it searching for a means of escape, and discover in the process that it is some kind of ancient super-weapon. Your objective is redirected to taking control of it and using it against your foes, but then you run into a bunch of those foes already dead, killed by something else entirely. The first half of that level plays like a horror game, until you find the recording of your own men, dead by the same mysterious cause, revealing it to be some kind of parasitic swarm, whereupon you're immediately beset by them. They come in massive waves, relentless and uncountable, your ammunition being exhausted just fighting them off. You manage to make your way to safety, and suddenly are taken by a mysterious construct that suddenly appears. It calls itself the custodian of this place. It guides you on the path to activating the weapon, revealing its true purpose to be to defeat this new menace, and you almost do it, until you discover it was (kind of unintentionally) manipulating you, and that the weapon kills all sentient life in the galaxy to starve the parasites - the only way to defeat them. Now, you're no longer on a mission to survive and escape, or to defeat your enemy, or to wipe out this new threat - you're on a desperate mission, with no backup, no support, and no recourse - to prevent the galactic apocalypse. When you finally do it, you manage to sacrifice almost everyone and everything left on that place to destroy the weapon and escape.
Halo 2 begins with a celebration of your deeds back on your home planet, when suddenly the enemy attacks. You repel their strangely small force, but not before an entire city is lost, even against this tiny fraction of their full power, hammering home the desperation of the war. But you also follow them on their retreat, after finding out the attack was a premature advance of a force not prepared for an assault on their enemy's central command - they were here for some other reason in the first place. For now, you can only follow them, where you discover another megastructure. Knowing the power and danger it poses, you go on to once again attempt to prevent its activation. In the middle of this, you also play as the leader of your enemies from the previous game. Branded a heretic and a failure, it is sent on a suicide mission to deal with dissidents, but discovers instead that his leaders are a farce, that they are headed to doom, and that they've even betrayed him and his loyal comrades. The paths of the 2 characters converge when they are taken by a great eldritch intelligence - the parasite still endures, and unlike the mindless swarm it appeared to be originally, it is sapient, it is intelligent, and it has bore witness to untold millennia of history, knows more than can be known - and needs you both to stop the death of all things. Reluctantly you do as it bids - your goals happen to align this once, and faced with oblivion you have no other choice - and destroy another superweapon. However, in the process, the infection spreads to the vast metropolis of the enemy and your own ships - it has the numbers and the means to consume everything in existence. And the leader of your foes, hellbent on activating the weapons that will wipe out all life, has escaped to the central command of those weapons. Everything is on the line now.
Now, I never had an xbox growing up, so i've only played the series for the first time recently with the Master Chief Collection, and haven't actually played 3 yet (going through it with a friend who's also never played it, so with scheduling it's slow-going) but just the difference between 1 and 2 is already clearly visible. Anything is the same when boiled down enough. Hell, i could just say "the game is just shoot guy, get in cover, regain health, shoot more, advance down linear path until level is over" and that would describe not just all halo games but all linear shooters in general.
I just have no idea how the boys never played Tekken 3, GTA IV, RDR2, or Skyrim, like were they just living under a rock when these games came out? Tekken 3 in the 90s was the hottest fighting game on the market, it literally got people into fighting games. GTA IV was massive when it came out, RDR2 was huge, Skyrim was literally everywhere in memes, in discussion, in everywhere in 2011, like these games were unavoidable, it's crazy they haven't played them.
Joey and grant mostly play JRPGs. Bring up ff7 and they could go on for like a year talking I bet
What makes a good fighting game IMO:
-Player expression (like any other kind of game that lefts you with a sense of awe)
-Consistency within it's mechanic and a sense of "fairness" (Combos are cool and all but you don't see MUGEN games or that old Sailor moon game as the best, which every character has a 2 button infinite even if it's kinda fun)
-Character design (if you don't vibe with any of the roster visually or mechanically you are not gonna get interested in the game beside something like "Footsies", "Nidhogg")
It is a bit difficult to listen to this being a couple years older than the guys and having a much better memory of the context in which these games were released at the time. For instance Ocarina of Time was a very early amazing 3d gaming experience that drew you into the story, it is easy to forget that Pokemon first came out just prior to Ocarina of Time and even with it being the billion dollar franchise that it is, took it 20 years just to reach Ocarina of Time levels of 3d gaming. Also imagine a game holding the top #1 best game spot for 2 years running nowadays, it is unfathomable for this day and age. Whereas Majora's Mask by comparison felt like an iteration on top of Ocarina of Time, and quickly became over-shadowed by news of the upcoming Gamecube release.
Edit 1- Connor remembered the emotions behind the Wind Waker release really well, we were expecting something bigger and darker and with next gen graphics. We got a cartoon.
Edit 2- The guys actually spoke quite intelligently about those games they were able to live through the context of its release at the time, I am impressed.
I do however LOVE that one of my childhood favorites that never gets mentioned was brought up- I spent so many hours playing Mystical Ninja 64, and here in the U.S. it felt like nobody had ever heard of it.
man, garnt saying shadow is bad. is worst take ever. you can really tell his isekai brainrot has truly increased to a point of no return
Shadow os to much of a Chad for Garnt to understand
It was alright
Tbf he didn't say it was bad but he missed the point of the game completely.
Complaining about simplicity of the gameplay in a game that is designed with minimalism in mind is just peeing your foot.
And sure, one could say "how am I supposed to know that" but with only the fact that there's no other fights outside the boss fights I feel is enough to get the idea
Nah, it's very niche game that fanboys can't get there rose tinted glasses off
@@flosscap oh suck an egg, you know it's nowhere near as popular of a game