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Real story: my financial advisor suggested I buy Hasboro stock, based on positive press they were getting in the Wall Street Journal. I said "No way! I know way too much about that company's issues...". Saved myself a 30% loss (including dividends)
They aren't influencing the way the art and entertainment is being made, that would be if they sued Disney for making such horrible films and tv series or Wotc for removing any art that might be even the tiniest bit risque or insisting all characters be ugly for "diversity" reasons.. This is investors trying to hold a lying middleman between the art and the consumer accountable.
@@MTG_McGee yes it is influencing it. Hasbro is a failing company and they need magic to release more sets faster. Sets are rushed. Also themed sets like Aether drift or universes beyond are pushed into production to ensnare new players at the expense of the fantasy themes. It absolutely influences the art when the parent company gets greedy.
Hasbro intern: who shall we attempt to displease today, Sir? Hasbro Evil Overlord: let the machine choose. Intern pulls a comically large handle and a screen spins to: Intern: the machine says firefighters, Sir. Hasbro Evil Overlord: interesting. MAKE IT SO!
But they didn’t print enough supply for Marvel, which (and this is purely speculation) could’ve possibly taken some of the piss outta their flood water.
Companies need to stop promoting the marketing and finance people. Especially for an artistic product. They need to start promoting the people that CREATE THE PRODCUTS!!!. I'm so tired of people who don't actually care about the product making decisions for companies and end up just ruinjng everything in the long run. And the consumer is the biggest loser.
There is no material incentive to do that. Currently we are awarded only for the next fiscal quarter report and nothing else. Nothing matters except money.
@@thechikage1091Voting with your wallet doesn't work because enough people don't do it... because so many of them are convinced it doesn't work. I havent given wotc money since they released collector boosters. I just proxy everything. If more people did the same they'd adjust course
How times have changed. Back in the day a large bookstore closed in my city. Everything was crazy cheap and being snatched up quick. I walked out with the mtg that couldn’t sell: a box of homelands and a box of fallen empires for like 30 bucks each. I love the flavor of these, but man were they low powered sets.
When a company fires workers, that is a red flag. For some reason the stock market likes it, but it shows that the company is in deep deep trouble and likely mismanaged.
Blame John Welch, the former GE CEO. He started the business trend of Stack Ranking to fire the bottom 10% performing employees in the 4th quarter to cook the books and make the stock look good on paper while leaving the business as a giant dumpster fire in reality
My Foundations Starter Collection had 91 miscut cards, some 'Revised' level of off-centre, some would have no name or casting cost if the had cut any more off of them.
This might seem pessimistic but read through it its not: I do hope their problems with investors and the board continue for Hasbro until they actually implode. Not that I wish particular ill to Hasbro employees but with a company with as many issues they should be trying to move on. In any case, the reason I want Hasbro to implode it's because the more likely outcome would be for some other company that would buy them to get their IPs: D&D and mtg are both valuable enough to want someone to grab Hasbro at a bargain discount. It's a long shot that the company buying them would do anything positive for D&D and mtg but at this point it cannot possibly be a *worst* direction than what WotC is on right now: even outright going away would be preferable for a lot more fan interest to grow and continue than the current state of affairs.
honestly MTG & yugioh are two card games so irreparably fucked that i'd rather they fizzle out and die so something better could come along and potentially take their place. and i kinda want DnD to die because of pipe dream (because let's be real, everyone will move to pathfinder if DnD dies) that it'll either lead to other better TTRPGs getting a spotlight and/or just filtering out people who refuse to play anything else.
So real cards at the dump? They could have given them as bonuses to employees. The company and the employees could have benefitted from the artificial scarcity if that is legal. Maybe this lawsuit will cull the company in a positive way. And I did notice the pre release cards were nicely flat and had a great feel, but the prize boosters had that Phyrexian stink to them.
How can you owner two of the best games of all time, THE fantasy role playing game in D&D and the granddaddy of all TCGs Magic the Gathering and still fail? Ridiculous. 😮
@ChaseDaTruth And a lot of mtg players also print their own proxy cards because the cards they want are either too expansive or so scarce that they can't get them a legit way (looking at you stupid secret lairs)
@@UnknownGamer40464 Maybe, but there are already a ton of things players don’t like about what they did with the newest version of D&D. Not that there’s anything new about that but they could have at least had a better name…Dungeons & Dragons 2024? The monster manual won’t be out until next year so is it D&D 2025 rules? How about just version 6? Or sixth edition? Also why not release all core books together? It’s not the 1970s with Anderson and Gygax working on the game in the basement & using revenues from the last book to help publish the next… Hasbro just keeps dropping the ball and as far as Magic they are totally cocking that up…😵💫
These large corporations with multiple brands under them use price average to sale stocks to investors. Like Emerson uses fisher valves, Ridgid tools, and mag/mass flow meters to cover lose of the electric motors division. Proctor and Gamble release multiple products under all the different brands and the winners cover for the losers just like gambling or opening boosters and then good pulls cover the cost of the boxes you bought...
Reminds me of the president-elect in the USA who bankrupted a freaking casino. People don't get rich because they aren't willing to cut corners, over-project wildly, or run outright scams.
I bought a box of Foundations and almost half of all the red cards.. the red border was totally faded. It looked like it was left out in the sun.. it was pretty bad
It will never not be funny to me that business people are just utterly incapable of understanding material analysis. It seems so obvious that people's behaviors are impacted by things that happen, yet the data that is shown here tells us that these people have absolutely no idea what anything means. Fantastic video, you earned a sub from the intro with the powdered wig, that is a great bit.
You're right, but to be fair, cosmetics in real life are pointless too. It's just a way to make money off people who a) have enough and b) are willing to spend it on style over substance anyway. So I'm actually fine with arena cosmetics the same way as I am with overprived sleeves in real life. I always found the "but it's real money for a digital product" argument to be rather thin... because, yeah, It's kind of pointless to spend real money on a cute avatar in an online game but the same can be said about spending money on a play mat with your favorite anime character. Both are totally redundant ways to spend money and neither holds any "real" value in the sense of improving your gameplay or return of investment.
Was there ever a time when you were worried you might not have enough news to put out regular videos? Having only started watching on a regular basis about 6 months ago. If anyone told me the world of MTG was so absolutely absurd, I would have thought they were making stuff up.
I have never been worried about having things to talk about, I just wish that things were like they were when I started and the news was less absurd and more good things were happening
Well, thanks for the content, mate. I really enjoy the crazy drama headlines followed by "owners of fine luxury cardboard rectangles" Makes me laugh nearly every time.
i just cant believe that they willingly bulldozed complete mh2 boxes into the ground. my friends and i wouldve probably each bought a box per person for the right price (50% discount). and if wizards doesnt want to sell these 1 by 1 a friend of mine or i wouldve easily bought like 20 at once and then resold it among us alone, that's not even considering all the real good players who desperately need those cards. instead, all those mh2 cards are way too expensive. all it takes is a single mtg shop in my home country to buy an entire pallet of these, which is like 100s of boxes for us to be all over these and wizards not to be troubled by them anymore. how anti-consumer can a company be?
"Gary, the Bus Tickler, Donnie, the Knee Toucher" 😂😂 next set will feature Ralph, the Ankle Biter & John, the Armpit Sniffer! 😂😂 I absolutely died of laughter and was resurrected by sadness.
About Disney Star Wars, it is very easy to predict what will happen about their collectibles line. Disney Star Wars will never will be relevant again until they completely erase the Disney sequel trilogy, and continue the story with the expanded universe. There is no other way, none. Now this said, there's your answer about Disney Star Wars collectibles, no matter what they produce, they will keep bombing hard. About Magic, I have seen a reduction of clients of almost 100%, people are not playing Magic, any longer. Just a bunch of friends keep playing, and most are people with a lot of money.
Investing in Ha$blow is like investing in buggy whips. Yeah they are the best on the block but they are rapidly becoming obsolete thanks to temu printers. Smart cash should have pulled out and put the cash into something less risky like chia pets ;).
15:10 wait, so there will never be any new Legendary Creatures to show NEW characters? If so, then Magic is doomed to be a "constant, neverending nostalgia-driven callbacks that can never ever look at the Future (unless some new character is mentioned in flavor text first _and then_ in real cards)". 17:10 WHAIT, WHAT? I would NEVER start a new collectible (card) game if the __bare entry level_ requires me to pay 60-80€ ! I'd better of spending them in going into therapy, theatre/acting, singing, learning a new language or playing Sax. F**k off, Hasbro! 18:10 Similarly, "foil" cards were 2x to 50x times the value of the original cards (yes, 50x multipliers: commons from 0.15€ to 5.50€, literally) and they were looking like gorgeous jewelry, while now are veeeery common
@@TheMagicHistorian AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH okay, it kinda makes sense. "Kind of" just because a "foundation" could be "for the Future to build on upon". So .....yes, "kinda"
@@marcoottina654 Honestly, I can see a reason for it. I've always been kinda miffed at notable characters from planes we don't know being printed in core sets and commander products back in the days; it's a bit annoying to get a new character without much if any context about who they are. On the flipside this also applies to an extant to the myriad of throwaway characters they make legendary cards for in regular sets and their associated commander sets due to EDH's popularity.
On the point of foil price, there used to be a "bling" factor for having a deck of all foils. That's entirely gone now, as foils are worth the same or sometimes less than the nonfoil versions, and the reality that foils are often so poor quality that you're effectively playing damaged product. There's nothing special about having foils anymore. They're not the chase products that they used to be.
@@xaxscratchxax926 and don't forget: among those 15 cards where will be guaranteed: a basic land, an art/ads card, a token, a common reprint "The List" alike, and a random Conspiracy card. ... Ah, were you expecting cards from the current set as well? YES: among the remaining 10 ... EDIT: I forgot that the amount of Rares in any Set (not "in the pack"! The SET!) is now equal to the amount of Uncommon cards, while the amount of Mythic Rares is half the amount of said Rares. Commons are just fillers, as usual at least. /sarcasm , as always
Getting close to that in the regional of Canada I am in. 3 foundation play boosters was $25 CAD. Don't think I will buy packs for a while if the prices stay there or continue to rise.
@tanithschultz5716 I've noticed Canadian prices from watching other streamers. No way I'd be buying anything sealed for what they charge. Hopefully yall get paid up there.
@@joeferreti9442, my friends and I bought a box and just drafted from the packs, many years after. We paid about $40 for it. Maybe I used the wrong term.
Hasbro should sue Disney for making franchises like Star Wars so god awful that no one wants the toys. I bet there might be a breach of contract claim somewhere.
Do you really think the reason toys aren’t selling is because of the way Disney managed Star Wars? And not…idk…kids having access to magic glass rectangles that can do infinitely more than an action figure?
@@Colinmchapman A large amount, possibly the majority of Star Wars toys are not purchased by kids, but by adults for adults. The problem is these people that were purchasing their merchandise, are the same people Disney insults and blames their financial problems on. But who knows in a court of law these days, everything in the world is running upside down and backwards to the way it used to appear.
Supply chains are still down. I collect transformers and have given up as its impossible to actually buy some figures due to mo stock. And some figures just haven't showed up in store. And then bloomburrow.... still want to buy Squirreled away edh deck that isn't ridiculously priced.
So this lawsuit was probably in the works for a while and is also likely the reason for the price increases and bringing in so many other IP's. They make a mistake, and we suffer how typical of a soulless business.
They have been making Terrible choices with Transformers too. They just canceled a entire line of figures called Core Class and they literally held back popular evergreen figures to package with reissues of larger characters to justify price hikes on 4 year old molds while not restocking related figures that were had sold out immediately and were being sold by scalpers for 3 times the price. Meanwhile the shelves were flooded with characters no one cared about and repaints of characters that didn't even sell in previous waves, it was so mismanaged, the entire Fandom was aware and discussing it and Hasbro ignored them and ended up destroying what should have been a budget friendly, fairly high quality toy line that could have appealed to Long Time Fans and newer fans as well.
Every Hasbro property is getting reduced, closed down or sold out lately and seeing how incompetent are people behind MtG I'm pretty sure they gonna sooner or later end on a chopping block.
That card back issue goes back at least to MH3. I bought a 4 pack of the MH3 commander decks. My Graveyard Overdrive deck had about 15 or so cards just like that.
This goes further back than that the curling has been a problem since at least kaladesh/amonkhet and literally since they introduced the foil stamp for rares and mythics you literally have mythic odds that its even centered. Quality has gone down repeatedly for years and everyone still keeps handing over their money, so wizards will keep doing it
on the one hand, it is good that new players are going to know just what to expect for the quality of the products out of modern Hasbro, and unfortunately Wizards of the Coast. On the other, I fully agree... if nothing else Wizards should have went through that with a fine tooth comb, because that is gonna be a bunch of new walking ATM's to pull money out of.
not a gamble...the company has a fiduciary duty to its investors and are legally liable...when the board has practically sabotaged the company at every chance it gets someone is making money off of the shorts and the investors absolutely have a right to sue
@@cavemantero When you put money down on an uncertain risk in hopes of getting a bigger return. Yes, it is actually a gamble. You don't know how it's going to go or if the company you invested in will even succeed. No matter how many pretty words the demagogue spouts out.
@@cavemantero No, it IS a gamble. I don't understand why people think they are entitled to profits just because they invest in something. There is a fine print warning on investing websites which warns you that all investments are risks, and that there is no way to mitigate this. Furthermore, past results are not an indication of the future. Yet, investors think if they invest, that means there's an automatic gain. It just isn't true. There is no way to predict the stock market.
@@TalesAscenWhat you’re saying presumes “The House isn’t cheating its ass off.” If a casino assured a gaming commission they’re running clean games, then got caught using loaded dice on the craps tables, they’d be fined into the Stone Age. Why would you presume it’s any different with publicly traded companies being required by law to make every reasonable effort to be profitable and honestly and accurately disclose specific pieces of information to investors in a timely manner? We actually need harsher laws in this respect, and criminal investigations to follow what comes out during these civil matters. If senior executives knew they were risking 10 year minimums in a medium security prison rather than a nice little Club Fed minimum security joint, they wouldn’t be so quick to enrich themselves unscrupulously. (It has always made me beyond sick that a man can be sent to prison for 25 years for burglarizing an empty building and stealing 5,000$ of stuff, while an executive can embezzle twelve million dollars from a pension fund and do 14 months in a country club with bars. Oh, and did you know that white collar crimes are specifically excluded from consideration under repeat-offender sentencing guidelines? Getting caught hot-wiring an unattended vehicle for the 3rd time can get you more than 30 years in 7 states, while committing your third white collar crime leaves it up to the judge’s discretion to even take your previous felony conviction into account.) As it stands, Hasbro could go down in flames, and even if directly tied to the malfeasance, Chris Cocks could likely get another high-end executive gig, because businesspeople have the morals of drug dealers addicted to what they’re peddling. His ability to extract juice from nearly-dry rind would be all his new employer cared about.
Card quality, product destruction, power creep, card equity and now financial manipulation........this reminds of a story.... something about goose who laid gold eggs or something like that!!!!!!
These investor groups are just as toxic as the CEOs that lay off their staff and give themselves a bonus for "doing such a good job this quarter." These investment firms needs to get out of the hobby space their pensions be damned.
This guy at WOTC: Hey I have this idea to make extra money. Why don't we just sell our misprints in a box and call it a starter box. They won't even know. This other guy WOTC: Awesome idea, here is your 200k bonus.
What........Hasbro lied BIG TIME to investors???? What a surprise! Chris Cocks got a huge bonus for that and another big bonus for all of the layoffs. Instead of a few more increases in 2025, there will probably be 5 or 6 more increases. I am looking forward to next years card quality. 🤣 Thank you for the video Magic Historian.
The lawsuit sounds like it will fail, to me. They invested, that is a risk and it didn't go as they hoped... sucks but that is how the risk of investments goes, even if wotc/hasbro made wrong predictions (I'd assume out of hubris not malice). On the other hand the lawsuit work out, because wotc/hasbro are greedy and may have done stupid stuff.
The company that you invest into has OBLIGATION to do everything in their power to return investments and don't hide crucial information from investors. The lawsuit will succeed unless WoTC will somehow prove that shit they were trying to hide was not responsible for them bleeding money... which probably will not work. Question is now if any other investors will want to join in - WoTC will survive one group demanding paying them for this failure but if multiple entities will appear with similar claims it may be death sentence for Hasbro as a whole. And that's just one their issue - Hasbro's every major line of products is failing miserably and from MtG specific we have artists preparing for suing them hard and literally the worst customer service and card quality we ever had.
There are quite a few weird things happening around especially the Foundation Starter Boxes and stuff. It's a pain to get them as stores here in Germany got only a fraction of what they've ordered. I've seen and also experienced myself severe issues with the card quality. In my box 8 cards were stuck together. Thankfully I was able to separate them without any damage but still. Saw a video today of someone who had like 30-40 cards in a row completely miscut and therefore ruined. The quality of the cards inside the three boosters that come with the Starter Collection is abysmal.They're just like Commander Starter Decks - the same weird powdery feeling to them and the disgusting smell like some cheap stuff from China that burned or something like that. It's really annoying to be honest and I really don't know what WotC is thinking. Basically this set is great but the execution of everything around it is embarrassing. Good luck winning over new people for MtG like this.
I just keep hoping to hear the news that Universes Beyond is being scuttled due to massive consumer backlash. Hasbro would probably get sued into oblivion by Disney or Marvel or whoever if they reneged on those sets now though. Sigh. Glad I have a nice collection of decks from the days when MTG had integrity.
Honestly they need to chill on Legends, they're bad for normal deck building. Either they have no mechanical reason to be in the set, or they do what you want, but making it legendary means you don't want 4 of them in the deck and are just randomly legendary to be commanders even if their abilities don't merit restricting them to one in play only.
Tbh, i wasn't buying more magic then because i was at home, its been almost a year since ive bought product and the truth is its because every decision they make seems to be in spite of me as a player. Ive actually picked up masterduel as an outlet for card games at this point
My question is is why did they dump it why didn't they sell the product or sit there and slowly disperse it that would have been the smart play because people would have still bought it it's value for each of the cards would have gone up at a slower pace over the year on the secondary market you would have had nothing to lose by selling a product dumping it was a stupid idea All you'd have to do is simply just put it in a warehouse somewhere oh that's right someone might find it again where you had old stuff that you guys were sitting on and then you get rid of it or you say hey we phoned another shipment etc etc and you ship it out 8 years later.
i absolutely hate that to play a game you need to heavily invest in a secondary product especially when the game pieces themselves are this expensive. i dont care about PrEServInG VaLUe and the secondary market nonsense, i just want to play the fking game. and honestly, a playmat is more than enough protection imo. shit like this is why i dont like playing tabletop and rather play arena and online.
As a community we need to all agree to stop buying Secret Lairs. If its a obvious great product it will be rigged towards their big clients being given a way to get product ahead of others and creates a ridiculous secondary scalpers market, or its garbage that drops in value so much ,by the time you get it nobody wants it. Every product should be available to every player. They can make more exclusive versions for the high end market and thats fine, but that shouldn't be the only available way to get cards. Investors should start investing in companies that make proxies.
Okay. I have a freaking bone to pick with the "MtG should be about Magic and Swords" arguments. Magic the Gathering exists within an INFINITE multiverse. No defined limit has EVER been given for how many Planes exist. As such there can be any concept, plan, archetype, idea, or possibility in this narrative. Saying you hate sets that are like Neon Dynasty because it's not mAGiC is reductionist and limiting. I love the futuristic esthetic of Kamigawa. I love the idea of the upcoming Aetherdrift set. While bungled to high hell and back I like the idea of a horror movie themed set like Duskmourne. Mirriodin and New Phyrexia were definitely not a classic swords and magic concept but was a pivotal part of MtGs history and lore anyway. The problem isn't that we are straying from the traditionalist fantasy ideal, the problem is we are getting subpar writing and worldbuilding to pump out sets like a horny teen.
the starter collection isnt necicarilly to get new players into magic. Its for recent magic players to buy to start a collection of cards. the beginner box is much cheaper and is actully the product intended to be the easiest start for brand new players. Its 20-30 dollars and specifically has detailed guides to teach new players. kind of unfair to equate the deckbuilders toolkit to the starter collection when they have different uses and there is a product out that is a similar price and way more closely matches the deckbuilders toolkit.
based in Brazil perspective and how magic is going there, i would NEVER invest or think in selling this. It is becoming a "vintage" game, youu go to LGS and see people playing pokemon, flesh and blood, one piece, but just 2 ramdom guys in magic. I dont know in other countiries, but here i just ívoted to proxy and im not buying anymore things (also, i lost money with crypt and jewel bans)
These investor groups gambling with other people's money. The money evaporates and the investor group is left holding the bag. So they sue saying they were right all along just the man lied. They don't even care if they win. They already got paid. It's all about passing the bag, in other words, make it hard for people to sue them. The real victim is the pension holder. It's a highly toxic practice.
Just another day in the world of Hasbro getting their stuff "done". Hooray and we can pay for it by ever increasing prices for low quality but overpowered cards.
Not that I'm going to support Hasbro anytime... ever again, but if they did something like missing link with redoing the 1980s Kenner line I'd at least be tempted.
All this just confirms my choice to sell my cards and just go all in for pauper and PDH (Pauper Dragon Highlander, aka pauper edh) cheaper, more fun, and most of the stupid crap wotc pulls doesn't really affect me
Foundations is Magic All Stars to me. And every product has maximum play-value in it's legal formats. Only the collectors are suffering a bit with Foundations. No really big, expensive new cards and a lot of old, big expensive cards are now made cheaper with reprints in Foundations. But to me that's great, MTG is a game, not an investment.
As a guy who loves magic, the new sets every few months is just crazy, i dont spend nearly what i use too. Its absolutely too much product to keep up with, just makes you lose interest in the game.
As a long time has to collector of star wars and marvel legends. They have screwed up with star wars quite a bit. But marvel really screwed them with phase 4. And quick note star wars black series has had some banger figures come out the last few years. But yeah Lando has been on shelves for a long time. But quality wise I have no complaints. I love my clones. The rex re release was awesome. As far as magic goes ive been seeing Hasbro's influence since brothers war. As soon as I saw transformers I told my pod here comes marvel and Ghostbusters and gi joe
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@@syntheticsylvie I have a hazezon commander deck and my cube currently.
I bet the check that gets sent to settle the pension fund shows up curled.
😂 dead, top comment has been found people.
They'll say it's worth more too, because it's a 1 of 1
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Epic comment of decade!!!
and Phyrexian Foil
so you can't actually read the check, "but _technically_ a good scanner could read the check"
Real story: my financial advisor suggested I buy Hasboro stock, based on positive press they were getting in the Wall Street Journal. I said "No way! I know way too much about that company's issues...".
Saved myself a 30% loss (including dividends)
A financial advisor that recommends single stocks? oof
@@ezgarrth4555 lol sus
“So we discovered you have a LOT of overstock……..of Magic the Gathering sets…..weren’t they out of print?”
Hasbro: “Rosewater!!! Do the thing!!!”
"Hasbro making false and misleading statements." -Investors
Where is the "Oh, it's your first time?" meme when you need it?
Things like pension funds and private investment shouldn’t be the things that influence the way art and entertainment is made.
But... but line must go up!!!
They aren't influencing the way the art and entertainment is being made, that would be if they sued Disney for making such horrible films and tv series or Wotc for removing any art that might be even the tiniest bit risque or insisting all characters be ugly for "diversity" reasons.. This is investors trying to hold a lying middleman between the art and the consumer accountable.
But it should influence the way companies report things to their investors.
@@MTG_McGee yes it is influencing it. Hasbro is a failing company and they need magic to release more sets faster. Sets are rushed. Also themed sets like Aether drift or universes beyond are pushed into production to ensnare new players at the expense of the fantasy themes. It absolutely influences the art when the parent company gets greedy.
Own a legit company and talk... it's scummy but this is business
Hasbro intern: who shall we attempt to displease today, Sir?
Hasbro Evil Overlord: let the machine choose.
Intern pulls a comically large handle and a screen spins to:
Intern: the machine says firefighters, Sir.
Hasbro Evil Overlord: interesting. MAKE IT SO!
Wizards dropping 6 sets this quarter while having overstock is like trying to hose down a flood in your backyard
And then pissing on it
@@Atsronomical😂
But they didn’t print enough supply for Marvel, which (and this is purely speculation) could’ve possibly taken some of the piss outta their flood water.
Companies need to stop promoting the marketing and finance people. Especially for an artistic product. They need to start promoting the people that CREATE THE PRODCUTS!!!. I'm so tired of people who don't actually care about the product making decisions for companies and end up just ruinjng everything in the long run. And the consumer is the biggest loser.
It's a card game...wtf are you on about... hell it's even using AI for some of its shitty "art".
There is no material incentive to do that. Currently we are awarded only for the next fiscal quarter report and nothing else. Nothing matters except money.
vote with your wallet, try indie games made with passion for gamers by gamers, and screw funds worshipping easy money
@marcoherreras6536 voting with your wallet doesn't work, these companies are too big. See: EA sports games
@@thechikage1091Voting with your wallet doesn't work because enough people don't do it... because so many of them are convinced it doesn't work. I havent given wotc money since they released collector boosters. I just proxy everything. If more people did the same they'd adjust course
How times have changed. Back in the day a large bookstore closed in my city. Everything was crazy cheap and being snatched up quick. I walked out with the mtg that couldn’t sell: a box of homelands and a box of fallen empires for like 30 bucks each. I love the flavor of these, but man were they low powered sets.
Wotc: universes beyond is selling great!
Reality: so that was a fucking lie.
The two primary sets found in that dump were unfinity and MTG30 anniversary
12:50 Foundations topic starts
When a company fires workers, that is a red flag. For some reason the stock market likes it, but it shows that the company is in deep deep trouble and likely mismanaged.
Far be it from me to defend Hasbro or WotC, but it can also show that the company has been mismanaged and is finally adjusting.
@@Reashu call me cynical, but the people who are let go are usually not the people mismanaging stuff...
Blame John Welch, the former GE CEO. He started the business trend of Stack Ranking to fire the bottom 10% performing employees in the 4th quarter to cook the books and make the stock look good on paper while leaving the business as a giant dumpster fire in reality
My Foundations Starter Collection had 91 miscut cards, some 'Revised' level of off-centre, some would have no name or casting cost if the had cut any more off of them.
This might seem pessimistic but read through it its not: I do hope their problems with investors and the board continue for Hasbro until they actually implode. Not that I wish particular ill to Hasbro employees but with a company with as many issues they should be trying to move on.
In any case, the reason I want Hasbro to implode it's because the more likely outcome would be for some other company that would buy them to get their IPs: D&D and mtg are both valuable enough to want someone to grab Hasbro at a bargain discount.
It's a long shot that the company buying them would do anything positive for D&D and mtg but at this point it cannot possibly be a *worst* direction than what WotC is on right now: even outright going away would be preferable for a lot more fan interest to grow and continue than the current state of affairs.
I like your optimism, will watch to see the thesis shake out.
My thoughts as well. Get WOTC to a company that will be game players and good stewards for the game.
@@chipserklandKonami, Bandi or some other similar company would buy Hasbro.n
honestly MTG & yugioh are two card games so irreparably fucked that i'd rather they fizzle out and die so something better could come along and potentially take their place.
and i kinda want DnD to die because of pipe dream (because let's be real, everyone will move to pathfinder if DnD dies) that it'll either lead to other better TTRPGs getting a spotlight and/or just filtering out people who refuse to play anything else.
@@xsoultillerx pf sucks.
So real cards at the dump? They could have given them as bonuses to employees. The company and the employees could have benefitted from the artificial scarcity if that is legal. Maybe this lawsuit will cull the company in a positive way. And I did notice the pre release cards were nicely flat and had a great feel, but the prize boosters had that Phyrexian stink to them.
How can you owner two of the best games of all time, THE fantasy role playing game in D&D and the granddaddy of all TCGs Magic the Gathering and still fail? Ridiculous. 😮
@ChaseDaTruth And a lot of mtg players also print their own proxy cards because the cards they want are either too expansive or so scarce that they can't get them a legit way (looking at you stupid secret lairs)
The new rule book is flying off the shelves reportedly so that's patently false @@ChaseDaTruth
@@UnknownGamer40464 Maybe, but there are already a ton of things players don’t like about what they did with the newest version of D&D. Not that there’s anything new about that but they could have at least had a better name…Dungeons & Dragons 2024? The monster manual won’t be out until next year so is it D&D 2025 rules? How about just version 6? Or sixth edition? Also why not release all core books together? It’s not the 1970s with Anderson and Gygax working on the game in the basement & using revenues from the last book to help publish the next… Hasbro just keeps dropping the ball and as far as Magic they are totally cocking that up…😵💫
These large corporations with multiple brands under them use price average to sale stocks to investors. Like Emerson uses fisher valves, Ridgid tools, and mag/mass flow meters to cover lose of the electric motors division. Proctor and Gamble release multiple products under all the different brands and the winners cover for the losers just like gambling or opening boosters and then good pulls cover the cost of the boxes you bought...
Reminds me of the president-elect in the USA who bankrupted a freaking casino. People don't get rich because they aren't willing to cut corners, over-project wildly, or run outright scams.
I'm glad it's not just us that hasbro is screwing
I bought a box of Foundations and almost half of all the red cards.. the red border was totally faded. It looked like it was left out in the sun.. it was pretty bad
I had the opposite. My blue cards were super dark and felt like sand paper. Therey were all rough and feel bad in your hand
@@jesse-kz8rumy sire of the seven seas or whatever felt super rough
Investors should have sued for that Marvel Secret Lair.
It will never not be funny to me that business people are just utterly incapable of understanding material analysis. It seems so obvious that people's behaviors are impacted by things that happen, yet the data that is shown here tells us that these people have absolutely no idea what anything means. Fantastic video, you earned a sub from the intro with the powdered wig, that is a great bit.
Cosmetics on Arena are pointless and stupid. I haven't paid for any.
I agree. I only get Counter Strike cosmetics because you can sell them when you get bored, or if they’ve gained value
I purchased the mlp stuff and I have used it on everything ever since.
You're right, but to be fair, cosmetics in real life are pointless too. It's just a way to make money off people who a) have enough and b) are willing to spend it on style over substance anyway. So I'm actually fine with arena cosmetics the same way as I am with overprived sleeves in real life.
I always found the "but it's real money for a digital product" argument to be rather thin... because, yeah, It's kind of pointless to spend real money on a cute avatar in an online game but the same can be said about spending money on a play mat with your favorite anime character. Both are totally redundant ways to spend money and neither holds any "real" value in the sense of improving your gameplay or return of investment.
What about the problem of people pulling up to 2-3 multiples of the same card in collector boosters?
My bones hurt!
Was there ever a time when you were worried you might not have enough news to put out regular videos?
Having only started watching on a regular basis about 6 months ago. If anyone told me the world of MTG was so absolutely absurd, I would have thought they were making stuff up.
I have never been worried about having things to talk about, I just wish that things were like they were when I started and the news was less absurd and more good things were happening
Well, thanks for the content, mate. I really enjoy the crazy drama headlines followed by "owners of fine luxury cardboard rectangles" Makes me laugh nearly every time.
Anyone remember the free starter decks? Thats how i gat into magic
hopefully they make a set the Rise of Empires and make new cards based on fallen empires bad cards
i just cant believe that they willingly bulldozed complete mh2 boxes into the ground. my friends and i wouldve probably each bought a box per person for the right price (50% discount). and if wizards doesnt want to sell these 1 by 1 a friend of mine or i wouldve easily bought like 20 at once and then resold it among us alone, that's not even considering all the real good players who desperately need those cards. instead, all those mh2 cards are way too expensive. all it takes is a single mtg shop in my home country to buy an entire pallet of these, which is like 100s of boxes for us to be all over these and wizards not to be troubled by them anymore. how anti-consumer can a company be?
Sad
The value of Donnie the Knee Toucher is gonna go way down after this
"Gary, the Bus Tickler, Donnie, the Knee Toucher" 😂😂 next set will feature Ralph, the Ankle Biter & John, the Armpit Sniffer! 😂😂 I absolutely died of laughter and was resurrected by sadness.
Octopuss eats large cardboard retailers. Party for Firemen's new calendar. These stories and more...
Wizards just wants an excuse to raise prices.
About Disney Star Wars, it is very easy to predict what will happen about their collectibles line. Disney Star Wars will never will be relevant again until they completely erase the Disney sequel trilogy, and continue the story with the expanded universe. There is no other way, none. Now this said, there's your answer about Disney Star Wars collectibles, no matter what they produce, they will keep bombing hard. About Magic, I have seen a reduction of clients of almost 100%, people are not playing Magic, any longer. Just a bunch of friends keep playing, and most are people with a lot of money.
Investing in Ha$blow is like investing in buggy whips. Yeah they are the best on the block but they are rapidly becoming obsolete thanks to temu printers. Smart cash should have pulled out and put the cash into something less risky like chia pets ;).
Ch-ch-ch-chia!
15:10 wait, so there will never be any new Legendary Creatures to show NEW characters? If so, then Magic is doomed to be a "constant, neverending nostalgia-driven callbacks that can never ever look at the Future (unless some new character is mentioned in flavor text first _and then_ in real cards)".
17:10 WHAIT, WHAT?
I would NEVER start a new collectible (card) game if the __bare entry level_ requires me to pay 60-80€ !
I'd better of spending them in going into therapy, theatre/acting, singing, learning a new language or playing Sax.
F**k off, Hasbro!
18:10 Similarly, "foil" cards were 2x to 50x times the value of the original cards (yes, 50x multipliers: commons from 0.15€ to 5.50€, literally) and they were looking like gorgeous jewelry, while now are veeeery common
The legendary stuff just applies to foundations
@@TheMagicHistorian AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH okay, it kinda makes sense.
"Kind of" just because a "foundation" could be "for the Future to build on upon".
So .....yes, "kinda"
@@marcoottina654 Honestly, I can see a reason for it. I've always been kinda miffed at notable characters from planes we don't know being printed in core sets and commander products back in the days; it's a bit annoying to get a new character without much if any context about who they are.
On the flipside this also applies to an extant to the myriad of throwaway characters they make legendary cards for in regular sets and their associated commander sets due to EDH's popularity.
On the point of foil price, there used to be a "bling" factor for having a deck of all foils.
That's entirely gone now, as foils are worth the same or sometimes less than the nonfoil versions, and the reality that foils are often so poor quality that you're effectively playing damaged product.
There's nothing special about having foils anymore. They're not the chase products that they used to be.
@@BusinessSkrub what a retarded take on what I said.
Knowing wotc, we’ll probably be getting Play Boosters costing $10 a pack.
People should just stop buying that crap.
$10 packs with 15 cent rares.
@@xaxscratchxax926 and don't forget: among those 15 cards where will be guaranteed: a basic land, an art/ads card, a token, a common reprint "The List" alike, and a random Conspiracy card.
... Ah, were you expecting cards from the current set as well?
YES: among the remaining 10 ...
EDIT: I forgot that the amount of Rares in any Set (not "in the pack"! The SET!) is now equal to the amount of Uncommon cards, while the amount of Mythic Rares is half the amount of said Rares. Commons are just fillers, as usual at least.
/sarcasm , as always
Getting close to that in the regional of Canada I am in. 3 foundation play boosters was $25 CAD. Don't think I will buy packs for a while if the prices stay there or continue to rise.
@tanithschultz5716 I've noticed Canadian prices from watching other streamers. No way I'd be buying anything sealed for what they charge. Hopefully yall get paid up there.
Quality isn't an issue! We need large quantities of the consumer's money. Just print and sell!
Magic the Blackening?! 😳
"Magic: the Betraying"
or, if you prefer: "Magic: the Bluffing"
Been trying to collect fallen empires as that was the set that was around when I first started playing. That is awesome you had some packs to open.
I got tired of bundles containing nothing but cards printed so dark that you can't even see the art. I doubt I will ever risk buying a bundle again.
Fallen Empires was my first set. So much fun to draft.
Totally agree. Homelands too!
What are you talking about? Fallen Empires was garbage and you couldn't draft those early expansion back then.
@@joeferreti9442 you can draft any set but aftermath with 6 cards
Same mate, first set too. Pulled a Seasinger first pack, thought i was god 🍻
@@joeferreti9442, my friends and I bought a box and just drafted from the packs, many years after. We paid about $40 for it. Maybe I used the wrong term.
Hasbro should sue Disney for making franchises like Star Wars so god awful that no one wants the toys. I bet there might be a breach of contract claim somewhere.
That would be a crazy way to suddenly fix media
Do you really think the reason toys aren’t selling is because of the way Disney managed Star Wars? And not…idk…kids having access to magic glass rectangles that can do infinitely more than an action figure?
@@Colinmchapman certainly not but that never stopped corporative lawsuits before
@@Colinmchapman
A large amount, possibly the majority of Star Wars toys are not purchased by kids, but by adults for adults. The problem is these people that were purchasing their merchandise, are the same people Disney insults and blames their financial problems on. But who knows in a court of law these days, everything in the world is running upside down and backwards to the way it used to appear.
Hasbro turned into a dumpster fire so big even the firefighters can't handle it anymore
Thanks for the review and I watched the FE opening before watching this. Thanks for that flashback to the good old days of MTG.
Supply chains are still down. I collect transformers and have given up as its impossible to actually buy some figures due to mo stock. And some figures just haven't showed up in store.
And then bloomburrow.... still want to buy Squirreled away edh deck that isn't ridiculously priced.
So this lawsuit was probably in the works for a while and is also likely the reason for the price increases and bringing in so many other IP's. They make a mistake, and we suffer how typical of a soulless business.
13:16 as a black mage myself, i approve of every color except black getting doom bladed >:3
They have been making Terrible choices with Transformers too. They just canceled a entire line of figures called Core Class and they literally held back popular evergreen figures to package with reissues of larger characters to justify price hikes on 4 year old molds while not restocking related figures that were had sold out immediately and were being sold by scalpers for 3 times the price. Meanwhile the shelves were flooded with characters no one cared about and repaints of characters that didn't even sell in previous waves, it was so mismanaged, the entire Fandom was aware and discussing it and Hasbro ignored them and ended up destroying what should have been a budget friendly, fairly high quality toy line that could have appealed to Long Time Fans and newer fans as well.
Every Hasbro property is getting reduced, closed down or sold out lately and seeing how incompetent are people behind MtG I'm pretty sure they gonna sooner or later end on a chopping block.
Maybe the AltaFox guys should have been voted in.
That card back issue goes back at least to MH3. I bought a 4 pack of the MH3 commander decks. My Graveyard Overdrive deck had about 15 or so cards just like that.
This goes further back than that the curling has been a problem since at least kaladesh/amonkhet and literally since they introduced the foil stamp for rares and mythics you literally have mythic odds that its even centered. Quality has gone down repeatedly for years and everyone still keeps handing over their money, so wizards will keep doing it
13:33 got tons like this from Markov manor :(
I genuinely enjoy your videos man. Very informative. Thank you
Mega. MAGIC. NEWS!!
I want that to be an audio that plays every time I get a TH-cam notification.
on the one hand, it is good that new players are going to know just what to expect for the quality of the products out of modern Hasbro, and unfortunately Wizards of the Coast.
On the other, I fully agree... if nothing else Wizards should have went through that with a fine tooth comb, because that is gonna be a bunch of new walking ATM's to pull money out of.
Love your stuff dude, watched you since Khans of tarkir
Investors: We lost 800 million in investing in your company.
Yeah that can happen when you gamble, DUH!
not a gamble...the company has a fiduciary duty to its investors and are legally liable...when the board has practically sabotaged the company at every chance it gets someone is making money off of the shorts and the investors absolutely have a right to sue
@@cavemantero When you put money down on an uncertain risk in hopes of getting a bigger return. Yes, it is actually a gamble.
You don't know how it's going to go or if the company you invested in will even succeed. No matter how many pretty words the demagogue spouts out.
@@cavemantero No, it IS a gamble. I don't understand why people think they are entitled to profits just because they invest in something. There is a fine print warning on investing websites which warns you that all investments are risks, and that there is no way to mitigate this. Furthermore, past results are not an indication of the future. Yet, investors think if they invest, that means there's an automatic gain. It just isn't true. There is no way to predict the stock market.
@@TalesAscenWhat you’re saying presumes “The House isn’t cheating its ass off.”
If a casino assured a gaming commission they’re running clean games, then got caught using loaded dice on the craps tables, they’d be fined into the Stone Age.
Why would you presume it’s any different with publicly traded companies being required by law to make every reasonable effort to be profitable and honestly and accurately disclose specific pieces of information to investors in a timely manner?
We actually need harsher laws in this respect, and criminal investigations to follow what comes out during these civil matters.
If senior executives knew they were risking 10 year minimums in a medium security prison rather than a nice little Club Fed minimum security joint, they wouldn’t be so quick to enrich themselves unscrupulously.
(It has always made me beyond sick that a man can be sent to prison for 25 years for burglarizing an empty building and stealing 5,000$ of stuff, while an executive can embezzle twelve million dollars from a pension fund and do 14 months in a country club with bars. Oh, and did you know that white collar crimes are specifically excluded from consideration under repeat-offender sentencing guidelines? Getting caught hot-wiring an unattended vehicle for the 3rd time can get you more than 30 years in 7 states, while committing your third white collar crime leaves it up to the judge’s discretion to even take your previous felony conviction into account.)
As it stands, Hasbro could go down in flames, and even if directly tied to the malfeasance, Chris Cocks could likely get another high-end executive gig, because businesspeople have the morals of drug dealers addicted to what they’re peddling. His ability to extract juice from nearly-dry rind would be all his new employer cared about.
Random thought, maybe Legends should just all have as a function of the rule set itself, Cycle (2) As to not be totally worthless in hand.
Card quality, product destruction, power creep, card equity and now financial manipulation........this reminds of a story.... something about goose who laid gold eggs or something like that!!!!!!
These investor groups are just as toxic as the CEOs that lay off their staff and give themselves a bonus for "doing such a good job this quarter." These investment firms needs to get out of the hobby space their pensions be damned.
This guy at WOTC: Hey I have this idea to make extra money. Why don't we just sell our misprints in a box and call it a starter box. They won't even know.
This other guy WOTC: Awesome idea, here is your 200k bonus.
What........Hasbro lied BIG TIME to investors???? What a surprise! Chris Cocks got a huge bonus for that and another big bonus for all of the layoffs. Instead of a few more increases in 2025, there will probably be 5 or 6 more increases. I am looking forward to next years card quality. 🤣 Thank you for the video Magic Historian.
The lawsuit sounds like it will fail, to me. They invested, that is a risk and it didn't go as they hoped... sucks but that is how the risk of investments goes, even if wotc/hasbro made wrong predictions (I'd assume out of hubris not malice).
On the other hand the lawsuit work out, because wotc/hasbro are greedy and may have done stupid stuff.
The company that you invest into has OBLIGATION to do everything in their power to return investments and don't hide crucial information from investors. The lawsuit will succeed unless WoTC will somehow prove that shit they were trying to hide was not responsible for them bleeding money... which probably will not work. Question is now if any other investors will want to join in - WoTC will survive one group demanding paying them for this failure but if multiple entities will appear with similar claims it may be death sentence for Hasbro as a whole. And that's just one their issue - Hasbro's every major line of products is failing miserably and from MtG specific we have artists preparing for suing them hard and literally the worst customer service and card quality we ever had.
Was that issue on the starter collection? I just checked the beginner box I picked up and no dark backs luckily.
There are quite a few weird things happening around especially the Foundation Starter Boxes and stuff. It's a pain to get them as stores here in Germany got only a fraction of what they've ordered. I've seen and also experienced myself severe issues with the card quality. In my box 8 cards were stuck together. Thankfully I was able to separate them without any damage but still. Saw a video today of someone who had like 30-40 cards in a row completely miscut and therefore ruined. The quality of the cards inside the three boosters that come with the Starter Collection is abysmal.They're just like Commander Starter Decks - the same weird powdery feeling to them and the disgusting smell like some cheap stuff from China that burned or something like that. It's really annoying to be honest and I really don't know what WotC is thinking. Basically this set is great but the execution of everything around it is embarrassing. Good luck winning over new people for MtG like this.
I just keep hoping to hear the news that Universes Beyond is being scuttled due to massive consumer backlash. Hasbro would probably get sued into oblivion by Disney or Marvel or whoever if they reneged on those sets now though.
Sigh. Glad I have a nice collection of decks from the days when MTG had integrity.
Honestly they need to chill on Legends, they're bad for normal deck building. Either they have no mechanical reason to be in the set, or they do what you want, but making it legendary means you don't want 4 of them in the deck and are just randomly legendary to be commanders even if their abilities don't merit restricting them to one in play only.
keeping this company afloat is the worst thing anyone can do for the game
Tbh, i wasn't buying more magic then because i was at home, its been almost a year since ive bought product and the truth is its because every decision they make seems to be in spite of me as a player. Ive actually picked up masterduel as an outlet for card games at this point
My question is is why did they dump it why didn't they sell the product or sit there and slowly disperse it that would have been the smart play because people would have still bought it it's value for each of the cards would have gone up at a slower pace over the year on the secondary market you would have had nothing to lose by selling a product dumping it was a stupid idea All you'd have to do is simply just put it in a warehouse somewhere oh that's right someone might find it again where you had old stuff that you guys were sitting on and then you get rid of it or you say hey we phoned another shipment etc etc and you ship it out 8 years later.
No, dude! They are doing that intentionally to encourage sleeves. It is a marketing tactic.
i absolutely hate that to play a game you need to heavily invest in a secondary product especially when the game pieces themselves are this expensive. i dont care about PrEServInG VaLUe and the secondary market nonsense, i just want to play the fking game. and honestly, a playmat is more than enough protection imo. shit like this is why i dont like playing tabletop and rather play arena and online.
As a community we need to all agree to stop buying Secret Lairs. If its a obvious great product it will be rigged towards their big clients being given a way to get product ahead of others and creates a ridiculous secondary scalpers market, or its garbage that drops in value so much ,by the time you get it nobody wants it. Every product should be available to every player. They can make more exclusive versions for the high end market and thats fine, but that shouldn't be the only available way to get cards. Investors should start investing in companies that make proxies.
Okay. I have a freaking bone to pick with the "MtG should be about Magic and Swords" arguments. Magic the Gathering exists within an INFINITE multiverse. No defined limit has EVER been given for how many Planes exist. As such there can be any concept, plan, archetype, idea, or possibility in this narrative. Saying you hate sets that are like Neon Dynasty because it's not mAGiC is reductionist and limiting. I love the futuristic esthetic of Kamigawa. I love the idea of the upcoming Aetherdrift set. While bungled to high hell and back I like the idea of a horror movie themed set like Duskmourne. Mirriodin and New Phyrexia were definitely not a classic swords and magic concept but was a pivotal part of MtGs history and lore anyway. The problem isn't that we are straying from the traditionalist fantasy ideal, the problem is we are getting subpar writing and worldbuilding to pump out sets like a horny teen.
the starter collection isnt necicarilly to get new players into magic. Its for recent magic players to buy to start a collection of cards. the beginner box is much cheaper and is actully the product intended to be the easiest start for brand new players. Its 20-30 dollars and specifically has detailed guides to teach new players. kind of unfair to equate the deckbuilders toolkit to the starter collection when they have different uses and there is a product out that is a similar price and way more closely matches the deckbuilders toolkit.
based in Brazil perspective and how magic is going there, i would NEVER invest or think in selling this. It is becoming a "vintage" game, youu go to LGS and see people playing pokemon, flesh and blood, one piece, but just 2 ramdom guys in magic. I dont know in other countiries, but here i just ívoted to proxy and im not buying anymore things (also, i lost money with crypt and jewel bans)
If #Wotc and #Hasbro need to dump mtg products, instead of sending it to land fills, they can send it to me. I'll put it to good use. #FireMark
Who's here after Hasbro announced testing a separate Commander online game. Lets go, Mike: where's the video?
Give us our money back you liars! Hope it works!
It's not very smart to put something like pension into single stocks.
I have Lord of the Rings cards with that back "misprint" with black ink.
Remember when free wizards was a thing? Maybe they were right
Happy times with Fallen Empires, though!!
I love the lore of magic the gathering legendary should b legendary for a reason ie. Urza, lord high artificer vs Dave the peach tickler
These investor groups gambling with other people's money. The money evaporates and the investor group is left holding the bag. So they sue saying they were right all along just the man lied. They don't even care if they win. They already got paid. It's all about passing the bag, in other words, make it hard for people to sue them. The real victim is the pension holder. It's a highly toxic practice.
So the stuff AltaFox was saying 2 years ago is true…. Color me suprised
Just another day in the world of Hasbro getting their stuff "done". Hooray and we can pay for it by ever increasing prices for low quality but overpowered cards.
"Donny the knee toucher" had me dying! 😂
Not that I'm going to support Hasbro anytime... ever again, but if they did something like missing link with redoing the 1980s Kenner line I'd at least be tempted.
11:14 Disney is the Hasbro of movie making
All this just confirms my choice to sell my cards and just go all in for pauper and PDH (Pauper Dragon Highlander, aka pauper edh) cheaper, more fun, and most of the stupid crap wotc pulls doesn't really affect me
Foundations is Magic All Stars to me. And every product has maximum play-value in it's legal formats. Only the collectors are suffering a bit with Foundations. No really big, expensive new cards and a lot of old, big expensive cards are now made cheaper with reprints in Foundations. But to me that's great, MTG is a game, not an investment.
Need to take them to court over there match maker
As a guy who loves magic, the new sets every few months is just crazy, i dont spend nearly what i use too. Its absolutely too much product to keep up with, just makes you lose interest in the game.
Hasbro don't care they monopoly on the market of board games and table top games as well in the USA
Just send them a special art one ring and call it a day
As a long time has to collector of star wars and marvel legends. They have screwed up with star wars quite a bit. But marvel really screwed them with phase 4. And quick note star wars black series has had some banger figures come out the last few years. But yeah Lando has been on shelves for a long time. But quality wise I have no complaints. I love my clones. The rex re release was awesome. As far as magic goes ive been seeing Hasbro's influence since brothers war. As soon as I saw transformers I told my pod here comes marvel and Ghostbusters and gi joe
13:45 Starter Box? There is no such thing. You mean; Beginner Box or Starter Collection ???
16:30 Starter Collection... got you... that only took you 3 minutes to get to.
@gbraadnl I think you not being able to understand he just said "starter box" as a general term meaning starter collection is the issue here, lol.
Didn't they say that they are gonna print foundations to demand for the next couple of years? Why are some singles still so explensive?
The set only officially came out 3 days ago, they will drop over time
Because they are trying to earn moneys surfing the weaves of the All Mighty Hype.
Foundations is a tip toe in the right direction tbh.
bought two collectors boosters, all the cards are curved crap.