Yes I agree. Even I appreciate your candor and how gently you broke down the fact it's a clone. You showed great respect to the young guy's father, wife and to him. I feel a little sad for them it wasn't a real Shelby but he does have a nice base car with plenty of mods to hold the price up some when he sells it. Great video and I also really love that car. Also I love and respect the father's dedication to it over all those years. You could tell he really loved his Mustang. Thank you for posting.
I still have my father's original, #'s matching 67 Shelby GT 500. It's a California car with original black and yellow license plates. He bought the car in 1985. He passed in Feb 2002. It still has the 428 dual quads, police Interceptor engine. The vin tag matches the door tag. The car was never wrecked nor has rust. He wanted me to have the car when he passed away. I also have my 65 Mustang Fastback I got in 1988, while in high school. My father almost bought a 69 Boss 429, Wimbiton white, black , 4 speed. The gentlemen sold it for 15k -17k. RIP dad.
@@Davvel-VR I checked my garage, it's still parked there, just mailed the DMV renewal, ( California) this week, due in March. Also checked the Shelby Register, it's in there . In this case, I'm actually living the dream! 👈 You have to remember, 60's muscle cars were affordable in 1980's. Since then, supply is low, demand is higher today. 👈😎
Not sure about "affordable"@@johnclemans7802there was always a premium placed on Shelbys. If a normal Mustang was a certain price, Shelbys were at least double that price, whatever it was.
@@johnclemans7802what is Commiefornia bilking you out of for registration? These lizards that run this State hate old cars and by that I mean any car over 10 years old.
Nice to see Jerry and Bob still took the time to make the trip anyway with an inkling that it wasn’t a genuine Shelby. Handled with respect like true gentleman.
People in the hobby are always talking about we need more young people in the hobby. Well, then do something to bring this about. What I mean is give some of your time to help.
She was great, it obviously meant a lot to her husband but she’s happy to just have her sons and a good life. You can’t buy that sort of happiness. It’s still worth good coin as a starting point for someone that can’t afford a Shelby, most of us, but would be happy with a clone.
Thanks as always for showing us the human story/history behind the car, *Jerry* . We've discussed before why that's the reason I've always been drawn to your work over the years. On this one, it's sort of sad the family has no interest in the car, but I suspect that scenario will be happening more and more in coming years with many folks and our older cars, sadly. Thanks again and see you on the next one. 🙂 - Ed on the Ridge
They were in no hurry to sell the car, so we'll see. It's always a pleasure to read your posts, so thanks for your continued support. I read every comment.
I've got cars hidden in storage that my grandparents/parents bought, some new. It doesn't matter that they may or may not be someone else's gem, but they are my gems.
Shelby vehicles had cosmetics and performance. The subject vehicle has much of the cosmetics; not much, if any, of the performance. It would be very expensive to upgrade the suspension and drive train to Shelby specs.
@65csx83 it's already got the 351 already plus you have no idea what upgrades have been done to the suspension in it's life time. Don't count your chickens.
@@markreisen7038 The video seemed to focus on the positives. If there were notable performance upgrades, I suspect they would have been mentioned. The owner was likely satisfied with the feel and appearance of a Shelby.
Hasn't even been moved or put on a hoist to check the frame condition, brake and fuel system, suspension or running condition. So to toss out a number like that is somewhat ridiculous.
I've dealt with cloning two F-Series trucks into higher trim levels for my own personal use and preference. There is ALOT that goes into a proper clone, and you have to be crazy obsessed to really fully complete a clone to make it look just like the real thing. It's not even cheap to do in this day and age like it may have been when these cars (and my trucks) were newer. Clones are cool, but I would never want to try and fully make a clone identical to the real thing.
I have always wanted a 67 or 68 I was born in 68 I made a clone 69 boss and it's moved on and now I have a 65 289 HO some Day I Dream of finding a good 67/68 to have. An build me nice Driver car . Thinking it might be my last project Car with a family I never got to really have it for long something always came up and had to part with them. My kids are all grown up and it's time to live my Dreams. Thanks for the great videos and. I like the you handled a Difficult thing like with passing of things of of a Loved ones Dreams. God Bless you All. Thanks Dale
The bondo, I know what you mean, but did you hear what Bob said toward the end of the video? He said the shock towers had rust. So, it looks like the repair was done to fix the rust. But, this was not a good job and it needs re-done by a professional body shop, like Jason White in our restoration series on my 1967 Shelby.
What a great family, Mom seems like a great matriarch of the "clan". Can't help but feel she still misses her husband greatly? I hope the son really thinks the sale of the car through as once Dad's car is gone it generally is gone forever. I would pay through the nose to have something like this touched and owned by my father! Thanks for sharing the families story, the story is what normally makes these cars so special. 😊😊
@@thewriter2549 I’m enjoying catching up on some episodes I’ve missed and the one with the gal that had her dads 455 SD, I hope she can get her kidney transplant and is able to live a healthy long life
A well built 302 in that fastback makes for a lot of fun. Especially since you know now it's not a real Shelby and you can actually go out and have a ton of fun in it.
Sooooo, Dad was a scammer, and her wedding ring is probably a cubic zirconia. The thing that gets me is that these people would have a professional come out to their garage and ask them to inspect a car that's tucked into a corner.
289 doesnt mean dead in the water, it means it could have been a 350, I saw one years and years ago for 20 grand, they did exist and they used the small block 289 instead of the 428
Yes, the 289 High Performance solid lifter four barrel, which is the K-code was the 1967 Shelby GT350's engine. I think we said "C" code, which is the 289-2V, that negates any possibility this fastback could be a Shelby. And this car was born a C-code.
@@thewriter2549 ah, does that K code Also mean 289 Hi Po by any chance as well granted I didnt know it had solid lifters if it is however still though, 67 Fastback, still not a bad catch, could ironically sell it to the guy who found the Bullitt mustang in Mexico as he found it as of all things he wanted to build an Elenor Clone and then found that in a junkyard, and to think someone wanting to build a shelby clone literally resulted in them finding the long lost stuntcar from Bullitt and it still had the remains of the Shelby GT350 Wheel that Mcqueen used in it too
Title shouldn't be a problem if the vehicle was titled in Michgan they can apply for a lost title and the state DMV should reissue a new title in the family's name.
To bad it wasnt a real Shelby Mustang. But its still a Sportsroof! I had one in my youth, 2+2, 289, manual trans and of course i wish i would have kept it.
I bought a 1968 Pontiac Firebird 400 with factory Ram Air bucket seats no tach in the hood and 4 33 rear end 4 speed, it was Verdoro Green not orange like most of them, I know it was a rare car , I had to sell it when I got drafted in 1970 , I couldn't make the payments. It was a great running car , but it just could not get out of the hole with those wide oval tires it came with , needed ladder bars, I turned 13:70s with it even with horrible wheel hop.
Man if I inherited that car no way i would sell it real shelby or not. I may have my mopar. But my fathers 55 and 56 Chevrolet BelAirs will someday be mine but I couldn't sell them they have been in the family since 1970s, I grew up going to car shows in them.
@thewriter2549 true. I have to say I did feel bad for them when it turned out not to be a real Shelby. I was hoping that it would be, so where they reproducing Shelby Mustang parts back when this car was built or could it have been built with parts off a real wrecked Shelby Mustang?
You should do a story about all the car guys dying and leaving their cars to their kids who don’t care about them and flippers just buying them up and ruining the market
It's a really cool money pit! spend spend spend then spend a little more and you'll have a nice car to cruise around in. Fortunately you didn't have to buy it so you should be able to make your $$$$ back if you decide to sell it!
I had the opportunity to buy a 1968 Shelby 500 GT in working, running condition for $500.00. It was going to be a lien sale because the guy could not afford the repair shop's bill. Completely stock condition. I was so broke, and I could not even convince my Dad to buy it because he said I would kill myself in it. He was probably right. I saw its frame completely stripped down at a local auto scrap yard a few weeks later. I cried.
OMG, what a sad story. People that went through the Great Depression and WW2 were prone to do as your father did, even those of that generation that were car enthusiasts. I have heard many such stories as yours, but most of them were about earlier classic cars, like Duesenberg's and 12-cylinder Packards and the like. I don't imagine you took a photo of the Shelby. Did you?
Yes, Bob and I both counseled him on what the car is worth and what he should sell it for. I told him to call me before he sells the car and run the details past me.
Check the VIN on the other fender. If it was hit in the right front the LH fender and door could easily be off the same parts car. There is no evidence of those parts ever being silver. The body obviously was.
This car is still worth a good amount of money, I mean, 20kish? Looking around in socal where I am, you cannot approach a late 60 muscle car for under 20k, this being a fastback is a big deal. If someone gets it to run, maybe new tank, lines, and clean the carb, like a weekend of work, it would be snapped up no problem where I am. In other areas, its hard to know.
It's still a 67 fastback. Not a goldmine, but still a desirable car. I'd love to have it myself.
You two handled that with great respect for the family. The car has a real future if they follow Bob's advice.
Yes I agree. Even I appreciate your candor and how gently you broke down the fact it's a clone. You showed great respect to the young guy's father, wife and to him. I feel a little sad for them it wasn't a real Shelby but he does have a nice base car with plenty of mods to hold the price up some when he sells it. Great video and I also really love that car. Also I love and respect the father's dedication to it over all those years. You could tell he really loved his Mustang. Thank you for posting.
Great video. Thank you to Mom and Son showing us the Mustang. I really enjoyed the picture board she had made.
I still have my father's original, #'s matching 67 Shelby GT 500. It's a California car with original black and yellow license plates. He bought the car in 1985. He passed in Feb 2002.
It still has the 428 dual quads, police Interceptor engine. The vin tag matches the door tag. The car was never wrecked nor has rust. He wanted me to have the car when he passed away.
I also have my 65 Mustang Fastback I got in 1988, while in high school.
My father almost bought a 69 Boss 429, Wimbiton white, black , 4 speed. The gentlemen sold it for 15k -17k.
RIP dad.
Oh jeez. That’s worth a small fortune
The shelby gt 500 is not a rare car , everyone in the youtube comments seem to have one . or just a (dream) story.
@@Davvel-VR I checked my garage, it's still parked there, just mailed the DMV renewal, ( California) this week, due in March. Also checked the Shelby Register, it's in there . In this case, I'm actually living the dream! 👈
You have to remember, 60's muscle cars were affordable in 1980's. Since then, supply is low, demand is higher today. 👈😎
Not sure about "affordable"@@johnclemans7802there was always a premium placed on Shelbys. If a normal Mustang was a certain price, Shelbys were at least double that price, whatever it was.
@@johnclemans7802what is Commiefornia bilking you out of for registration? These lizards that run this State hate old cars and by that I mean any car over 10 years old.
Nice to see Jerry and Bob still took the time to make the trip anyway with an inkling that it wasn’t a genuine Shelby. Handled with respect like true gentleman.
People in the hobby are always talking about we need more young people in the hobby. Well, then do something to bring this about. What I mean is give some of your time to help.
The big giveaway about the authenticity is the photo she pointed out when the car was brand new...it has no GT 500 logo on the bottom of the wing.
She was great, it obviously meant a lot to her husband but she’s happy to just have her sons and a good life. You can’t buy that sort of happiness. It’s still worth good coin as a starting point for someone that can’t afford a Shelby, most of us, but would be happy with a clone.
“Life is good!” ❤ Exactly! ❤ Thanks for another great video! ❤️👍👍
Thanks
I'd rather have a clone, I won't cry as much when something happens to it lol
Thanks as always for showing us the human story/history behind the car, *Jerry* .
We've discussed before why that's the reason I've always been drawn to your work over the years.
On this one, it's sort of sad the family has no interest in the car, but I suspect that scenario will be
happening more and more in coming years with many folks and our older cars, sadly.
Thanks again and see you on the next one. 🙂
- Ed on the Ridge
They were in no hurry to sell the car, so we'll see. It's always a pleasure to read your posts, so thanks for your continued support. I read every comment.
More for the rest of us!
Its a 1967 Mustang Fastback, it's doesn't even matter if it's not a Shelby.
As a Mustang fan since the 60's, I'd love it either way.
Might not be a shelby but its still a nice classic
I've got cars hidden in storage that my grandparents/parents bought, some new. It doesn't matter that they may or may not be someone else's gem, but they are my gems.
Sounds like possibly a really good story. Could you email me about this? Or call? -- jerryheasley@gmail.com or 806-236-3681
Even if it is a clone it still is worth money
I remember that Mustang. I have pics with it and my Camaro. I know the kids' dad, Yassir. He said he would never get rid of it.
He doesn't always pay a fair price unless he goes in with Rawlings for certain cars. To me that's about a 20,000-25,000 dollar car all day, all in.
Shelby vehicles had cosmetics and performance. The subject vehicle has much of the cosmetics; not much, if any, of the performance. It would be very expensive to upgrade the suspension and drive train to Shelby specs.
@65csx83 it's already got the 351 already plus you have no idea what upgrades have been done to the suspension in it's life time. Don't count your chickens.
that's a too high because it not Shelby & don't run and needs quite a bit of work!
@@markreisen7038 The video seemed to focus on the positives. If there were notable performance upgrades, I suspect they would have been mentioned. The owner was likely satisfied with the feel and appearance of a Shelby.
Hasn't even been moved or put on a hoist to check the frame condition, brake and fuel system, suspension or running condition. So to toss out a number like that is somewhat ridiculous.
I've dealt with cloning two F-Series trucks into higher trim levels for my own personal use and preference. There is ALOT that goes into a proper clone, and you have to be crazy obsessed to really fully complete a clone to make it look just like the real thing. It's not even cheap to do in this day and age like it may have been when these cars (and my trucks) were newer. Clones are cool, but I would never want to try and fully make a clone identical to the real thing.
Amazing how every car has a compelling story.
Yes, especially specialty collector cars because so many people want them and have gone through so much to get them.
I have always wanted a 67 or 68 I was born in 68 I made a clone 69 boss and it's moved on and now I have a 65 289 HO some Day I Dream of finding a good 67/68 to have. An build me nice Driver car . Thinking it might be my last project Car with a family I never got to really have it for long something always came up and had to part with them. My kids are all grown up and it's time to live my Dreams. Thanks for the great videos and. I like the you handled a Difficult thing like with passing of things of of a Loved ones Dreams. God Bless you All. Thanks Dale
Nice job guys, you were very upfront and honest with them.
Retromodded Mustangs will always have value. Bondo on the fender aprons scares me.
The bondo, I know what you mean, but did you hear what Bob said toward the end of the video? He said the shock towers had rust. So, it looks like the repair was done to fix the rust. But, this was not a good job and it needs re-done by a professional body shop, like Jason White in our restoration series on my 1967 Shelby.
@@thewriter2549 All those parts are available. That's the great thing about Mustangs.
Still a nice car. Hope he gets it running, then he can make an honest sale. I’m kinda of envious lol
It’s still worth a good amount especially with all the Shelby parts
What a great family, Mom seems like a great matriarch of the "clan". Can't help but feel she still misses her husband greatly? I hope the son really thinks the sale of the car through as once Dad's car is gone it generally is gone forever. I would pay through the nose to have something like this touched and owned by my father! Thanks for sharing the families story, the story is what normally makes these cars so special. 😊😊
I talked to him recently and I think he is actually considering it.
More than I ever got even if it was fake. I’d love it even it was a fake…..Moms was cool and as supportive as can be.
CLONE OR NOT ITS BAD AZZ PONY 🐎🐎🐎
Great of you two to go and be real with them 👍
This car has a great back story. It is a desirable model, Get it running and you will do well selling it.
What a nice young man he is...
That's Alfred Hitchcock.
I’d rather have a clone. Then I wouldn’t feel bad for making it a daily driver. 😛
Bob Perkins needs to be protected at all costs he is a national treasure! I write him in for President! The amount of knowledge is incredible!
Definitely an Asset to the Mustang hobby, Jerry too, they make this hobby even better
Best channel on TH-cam hands down
Wow, thanks, makes the hard scrabble work feel worth it. I try to do people right, treat them like I'd like to be treated.
@@thewriter2549 I’m enjoying catching up on some episodes I’ve missed and the one with the gal that had her dads 455 SD, I hope she can get her kidney transplant and is able to live a healthy long life
Love the 302 engine; only got to experience it in a 87 Lincoln MKVII w/ 80k miles
A well built 302 in that fastback makes for a lot of fun. Especially since you know now it's not a real Shelby and you can actually go out and have a ton of fun in it.
Was hoping you would do a follow up of the guy in Wisconsin with the 70 Boss 302 Mr. Perkins and yourself went to look at ..
I agree. We would except no change.
If you have to find out if it’s real or not, it’s great to have pros help you out! Thanks for the video!
That car is still worth 20,000 or more the way it sits. Just because its all together and hardly no rust. It has lots of nice stuff on it.
well handled ~ touché‼️
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Great video and story as usual!
luv the comment either way he is a winner!! gold
Did anyone check the opposite side vins just curious ???
I just love people! An Awesome lady and the kid is great too!!
Same here, I do it and I agree with your assessment.
This is truly sad, his Dad loved this car, and this kid just pisses away his Dad's Dream.
Dad prob thought his grandson would end up with the car one day.
Not everyone is into someone else's dream
Sooooo, Dad was a scammer, and her wedding ring is probably a cubic zirconia. The thing that gets me is that these people would have a professional come out to their garage and ask them to inspect a car that's tucked into a corner.
Your a troll…….
Awesome attitude!
Very cool video !
Only one false statement that the mother made.
You ARE
GORGEOUS
girl
You traveled right by me, literally, you could have stopped in to see my two Mustangs
Shelby or not, I wouldn't be hanging crap from the gararage rafters over it😎
lol my only passion at 21 was cars, woman, food, and having a good time
Ary men
Ay men o well
In that order !
Yup
Definitely 20-grand plus
Contact Dennis Collins at coffee walk!
That Mommy knew from the get go it was not an original.
Man wish my dad had it. I’d just restore it.
Unfortunate for the mom, but looks like she wasn't surprised, like there was a 50/50 shot it was a genuine Shelby
Some kid got ripped off
This thing still worth around 25-30k
no less.
Sold my 68 J code roller last year for 30
Nobody has sold anything. We are there to make sure they don't get ripped off and they do get a fair price if and when they sell.
@@thewriter2549 oopsie on that rivit hole
Yeah, that would be my dream car I live here in Michigan Manchester, Michigan watching now Sunday, July 28
Boy, that's not how I drill out rivets. Yikes!
I would love to have that car. Someone inherit one to me. 🤣
Creative use of the word inherit. If anybody is inheriting a car of special interest, I would like to do a video on the process.
It was their Husband/Father’s car, that’s worth way more than anything!!!
289 doesnt mean dead in the water, it means it could have been a 350, I saw one years and years ago for 20 grand, they did exist and they used the small block 289 instead of the 428
Yes, the 289 High Performance solid lifter four barrel, which is the K-code was the 1967 Shelby GT350's engine. I think we said "C" code, which is the 289-2V, that negates any possibility this fastback could be a Shelby. And this car was born a C-code.
@@thewriter2549 ah, does that K code Also mean 289 Hi Po by any chance as well
granted I didnt know it had solid lifters if it is however
still though, 67 Fastback, still not a bad catch, could ironically sell it to the guy who found the Bullitt mustang in Mexico
as he found it as of all things he wanted to build an Elenor Clone and then found that in a junkyard, and to think someone wanting to build a shelby clone
literally resulted in them finding the long lost stuntcar from Bullitt
and it still had the remains of the Shelby GT350 Wheel that Mcqueen used in it too
What are your thoughts on the value of the car as it sits? I would think around 16k US maybe less since there is no title.
Title shouldn't be a problem if the vehicle was titled in Michgan they can apply for a lost title and the state DMV should reissue a new title in the family's name.
@@markreisen7038 If they do indeed do that. As it sits it has no title.
To bad it wasnt a real Shelby Mustang. But its still a Sportsroof! I had one in my youth, 2+2, 289, manual trans and of course i wish i would have kept it.
All the son cared about was the money. So bummed it wasnt real you can see it in his face. Still a 67 fastback that id kill to have.
I bought a 1968 Pontiac Firebird 400 with factory Ram Air bucket seats no tach in the hood and 4 33 rear end 4 speed, it was Verdoro Green not orange like most of them, I know it was a rare car , I had to sell it when I got drafted in 1970 , I couldn't make the payments. It was a great running car , but it just could not get out of the hole with those wide oval tires it came with , needed ladder bars, I turned 13:70s with it even with horrible wheel hop.
Verdoro was white-hot for these, back then. A very desirable color
Love the car
What a neat video.❤
When you know you have a couple gurus coming to possibly confirm your lottery ticket please make sure to make the car nearly inaccessible to them.
There’s a ferry between Wisconsin and Michigan.
Yes, but the schedule did not work for us and kind of expensive.
Poor kid - guess were all flawed humans. Contact Dennis Collins he will buy that, the chubby guy will drive to get it
Call Dennis Collins in Texas. He will buy it. Or richard Rawlings with gas monkey.
67 Fastback restored get over $100,000!!!
Is there more? The video just stoped
Later, when they take the next step I plan to do more.
Man if I inherited that car no way i would sell it real shelby or not. I may have my mopar. But my fathers 55 and 56 Chevrolet BelAirs will someday be mine but I couldn't sell them they have been in the family since 1970s, I grew up going to car shows in them.
At the least, they seem to be in no hurry to sell, which is good. My counsel to them was to not get in a hurry to sell.
@thewriter2549 true. I have to say I did feel bad for them when it turned out not to be a real Shelby. I was hoping that it would be, so where they reproducing Shelby Mustang parts back when this car was built or could it have been built with parts off a real wrecked Shelby Mustang?
Great video, the Shelby parts are valuable anyway, do you think if they got it running it’d be worth maybe 15k?
22000
20-plus for sure. I bet that would run that afternoon
"Still would like to get rid of it." He's a wise young man, not interested in putting 1000 hours and $50K into something he doesn't care about.
You good with that she asked her son hell he hasn't touched that car in 20 years yeah I think he'd be okay with drilling out one rivet
You should do a story about all the car guys dying and leaving their cars to their kids who don’t care about them and flippers just buying them up and ruining the market
Your an awesome lady I like how you look at life ❤
You know I thought the same.
Dennis collins ? Gotta believe he would want it and would be fair in the deal.
It's a really cool money pit! spend spend spend then spend a little more and you'll have a nice car to cruise around in. Fortunately you didn't have to buy it so you should be able to make your $$$$ back if you decide to sell it!
No one really cares about the money, it's like saying; "You're never gonna make money practicing your golf swing!" Same idea.
I’ll buy it right now
The value of a car is just opinions
Of course the car is collectable
I had the opportunity to buy a 1968 Shelby 500 GT in working, running condition for $500.00. It was going to be a lien sale because the guy could not afford the repair shop's bill. Completely stock condition. I was so broke, and I could not even convince my Dad to buy it because he said I would kill myself in it. He was probably right. I saw its frame completely stripped down at a local auto scrap yard a few weeks later. I cried.
OMG, what a sad story. People that went through the Great Depression and WW2 were prone to do as your father did, even those of that generation that were car enthusiasts. I have heard many such stories as yours, but most of them were about earlier classic cars, like Duesenberg's and 12-cylinder Packards and the like. I don't imagine you took a photo of the Shelby. Did you?
Still a cool car!
I hope you are helping them so that someone like Dennis Collins doesn't some in and steal it from them.
Yes, Bob and I both counseled him on what the car is worth and what he should sell it for. I told him to call me before he sells the car and run the details past me.
Has no future if it doesn't get out and driven, instead of stuck in a collision.
Probably worth 25k as is maybe if they have the original motor without 8k-9k maybe. I had a 1968 fastback for my first car hate I sold it! 😂
He needs to get ahold of Dennis colinns he will buy it for sure Okay thanks Charles Williams
Check the VIN on the other fender. If it was hit in the right front the LH fender and door could easily be off the same parts car. There is no evidence of those parts ever being silver. The body obviously was.
Restomodable '67 fastback? I'd buy it...
A lot of money was spent on the Shelby parts, still a cool car.
I have my old 69 T-Bird with 429 police special,,,,is that correct for a mustang? I believe Chiltons had it down for 370hp, runs fine.
This car is still worth a good amount of money, I mean, 20kish? Looking around in socal where I am, you cannot approach a late 60 muscle car for under 20k, this being a fastback is a big deal. If someone gets it to run, maybe new tank, lines, and clean the carb, like a weekend of work, it would be snapped up no problem where I am. In other areas, its hard to know.
My Uncle Sam could have brought me a 68 GT 500 for $8,000 back in 85. 😭
When you pass away this is what happens.
Wouldn't care what it is its a beautiful car I would paint it and drive it very cool car.
It needs to stay in the family
Selling that car is horrible idea..its been in the family too long 😢