This is so stupid ... “Latino” and “Hispanic” are 2 of the many words that english speakers use incorrectly. Latin is a language, not a race, or ethnicity. The language spread out of Rome, evolved & mixed with others. Nobody is “Latin” but many people/continents speak a language that has Latin influence. Like this guy explains, USA incorrectly uses the word “arbitrarily” to classify people for census (voting & campaigning) purposes. “Hispanic” is from the Kingdom of “Hispania” which was the name given to the whole Iberian peninsula in Europe. It had a political split (around year 1200) & became Portugal & Spain. We Portuguese & Spanish are the ORIGINAL Hispanics & speak Latin based languages. When England started colonizing North America, Spain & Portugal set out to colonize South America, then mixing with indigenous Aztecs, Arawaks, Wapichana as well as their African slaves, resulting in what Americans call “brown” people. The modern people of South America are not Latin, or “brown”. They are of mixed ethnicities including the original Hispanic bloodlines. Thats why in the 70’s & 80’s Portuguese people WERE included as Hispanic on the census forms. But the main reason lots of portuguese-americans stopped calling themselves Hispanic is because of the negative connotation with “Hispanic” being synonymous with “Mexican” or “illegal” and border-jumping... especially as this guy mentioned in California... but if you tell someone on the East Coast that you’re Portuguese they’ll say “oh, yea, I could tell you werent white.” Again, misuse of the word “white”. Not everyone in Europe is “white”. There’s a gigantic difference between Nordic and Mediterranean.
Many incorrect statements in your comment. "Hispania" wasn't a kingdom. The Portuguese never were included in the Hispanic/Latino census category. If the Portuguese reject the Hispanic/Latino label in the US it's not because of the "negative conotation associated with it", but because it doesn't represent their ethnicity. The word "Latin" has evolved into multiple meanings depending on the context. It's not illogical to call mestizo people from post-colonial Spanish-America "Hispanic" Or "Latino", but it can't mean "Romance-language speaker", or "Ancient Roman" all at once.
@daverei5362 something a lot of English speakers say is "Portugal, Spain and Italy are not Latinos, they are latins" well, how would a Portuguese, Spanish, or Italian person say "latin man"? latino. I rest my case 🙏🏼🙏🏼
@@daverei5362and yes, the Portuguese were definitely considered Hispanic for a very long time. this is because the US government didn't want to exclude the biggest country in South America from receiving the benefits that Hispanic workers got for being minorities. so for many decades, being of Portuguese origin made you Hispanic in America. from what I know Illinois still defines people of Portuguese descent as Hispanic
@@daverei5362 and how could you know what Portuguese people intended when they disliked being called Hispanic? I believe he's 100% correct. another example is Dominicans refusing to identify as black. you've probably heard the online joke of Dominicans saying "I no black, I Dominican" because they see something negative in being called black
@@cookiesup2music não, não são! São até realmente muito parecidos quer tu admitas ou não mas se estudares um pouco vais ver que sim não só na cultura mas como a partilha de conhecimento.... Os cyanetes ou os conii então são o melhor exemplo
@@pintoz6ninja oi, seu canadiano... posso dizer com confiança q gringada e a nossa raça não é a mm coisa. se calhar, podemos ser comprados os italianos. mas não os branquinhos d almanha, suécia, inglaterra etc. Nem um dia nas nossas praias podem os bifes sobreviver
I agree with EVERYTHING you said but...wait, Romance language speakers = Latin Language speakers LOL...samething! You erased a bunch of history...what happened to the European Latin Union? or the fact there is a Latin Europe..anyway, overall great job.
Portuguese people are lusitanos or lusos from lusitania we are not latinos nor hispanic. Our language comes from latin but because of roman influence. But our ancestry is lusitanian from the lusitanian tribes. We are not latinos nor hispanic.
@Itz Yanii - wrong, 'Hispanic' means 'related to spanish language'. In case you are not aware Portuguese (and Gaelician) derive from 'vulgar latin' (or sermo vulgaris). It's quite diferent from 'Spanish', often associated with Castilian (central Spain). Iberian is something far different :) Bye...
@Itz Yanii Spanish and Castilian language wise are the same thing in academical terms. It is composed of many dialects, like Portuguese in which European Portuguese and Brazilian Portuguese are the most common dialects. Basque is a different language like Mirandês os also a different language. Either way 'hispanic' and 'latino' in the US is used related to ethnicity and not culture or language. See the US Census :) It's quite clear. Claiming Portuguese mainlanders are the same ethnicity of Latin Americans is plain stupidity and ignorance. Portuguese in fact have 2 genetic markers which make them unique, 1 only found in Northern Portugal and the other one of the oldest know only present in massive quantities in Portugal and some regions of Spain, mainly Galicia...
@Itz Yanii Castillan is used in every parts of spain, unlike Basque or Galician, therefore it is not irrational to call castillan "spanish" in that it's the national language. Latino is a supra ethnicity in that they belong to a common culturo-geopolitical entity that is Latin America, like Europe, Africa or Asia. In fact, Latin Americans (particular the hispanophones) are much more closely related between them than Europeans, Africans or Asians. Some are actually near identical as Latin American nations are post-colonial arbitrary creations.
@@nmarques7885 where guru you found that unique marker , i'm a north kallaicvo fucker and i did notice nothing of that shit in my body , are you inventing shit ?
@@jeffreyecheverria355 you are not very smart, neither you have an idea of what you are talking about.... so here's a free lesson from someone who actually knows the Peninsula, it's languages, it's customs and has true Iberian DNA.... Take notice of the following: 1. 'Hispanic' -> referes to people, culture or a country related to spain, not a language. You are probably confusing with 'Hispania', the roman/latin name for the Iberian Peninsula. The Arabs called it Al Andaluz, and there's no 'Andaluz' language :) Others called it Lusitânia before... and so on... 2. All languages spoken in Europe, except for Basque (Euskara) are indo-european languages. No where in indo-european languages family or sub-families is a 'Hispanic' language. 3. Spanish, is part of the Italic sub-family of indo-european languages, alongside with other neo-latin languages and romance languages. There's no 'Hispanic' language anywhere to be seen. 4. If you are the kind of the bible guy... Then you also know that in the Iberian Peninsula lie the descendants of Japhet... Which spoke many forms of celtic, not Hispanic... So please show all proof of any 'Hispanic' language in the Peninsula Ibérica, because I can't really find it....
This topic is very interesting... have you had your DNA tested 23&me. Most Latin Americans have traces of ancestry from many European countries. There are white Latinos, brown Latinos throughout the Americas.
I have a question...please no hate, I'm just confused on my ethnicity. Am I considered a white spanish person or what? According to 2 DNA test I am European, Portuguese, Iberian, Italian, and a small percentage of Egyptian & Congolese. Thanks in advance. 😊
In my opinion I think Portuguese is Hispanic because Spain and Portugal were part of the Roman Province of Hispania which is where people get the name Hispanic but that's what I've learned
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I agree with you. Why are the Portuguese stripped down of their own European cultural/ethnic identity? We need to distance ourselves from Hispanics because they tend to take away from us by maiciously pushing their hispanic label we want nothing to do with on us.
I've heard of this here in Massachusetts where I'm from Portuguese people are not considered Hispanic in any way shape or form. My grandparents all come from northern Portugal group was plenty of Portuguese people never would anyone consider any of us to be Hispanic
There’s like 4 or 5 Latin languages from different European countries. Therefore you would have to define what a “European” looks like. And besides if you ask most Portuguese people their ethnicity they will most likely say they’re Latin because of their language.
@@Deeswrld 99% do not mark "Hispanic/Latino" in the US census. In fact, most feel insulted by it. Speaking English doesn't make you English or Anglo. Latino pertain to Latin America, a geopolitical entity. Language doesn't change your genetics, culture and ethnicity.
Portuguese Latino???...Technically yes, technically no- It depends on your social motive (in America it was asked if Portuguese wanted to be called Hispanic/ Latino and the majority preferred to use the "W" option) ....and yes, though French, Portuguese, Spanish, etc have uniquely different cultures-they have similar things in common besides the origins of the latin language. You see heavy similarities in certain older traditional foods dishes (creme renversee/ flan to alcatra/bouef en daube, etc), religion (Roman Catholic), in style of old traditional clothing, some similar names and surnames, etc. All these countries are uniquely VERY festive people and cultures-something latin people usually are. It is very pronounced compared to other cultures. Without Latin people, the Americas ("latinos and hispanics") and many parts of the world would not be the same cultures. Down to genetics, French, Spanish ,Portuguese share similarities with one another as well (they all share genetic similarities with neighboring Basque too, though Portuguese share more with France and Spain more with Basque) which would have been passed down to South Americans, Carribean people, etc. The big question is why aren't Brazilians really labelled "latino" when they are from a latin influenced culture (Portugal) and in South America?
As a portuguese native I've asked myself the same question regarding brazillians. A lot of them are mixed race, so I don't know exactly how to categorize them.
My siblings and I are 50% which makes my mom 100 and my pops not so much lol. Never knew what to consider it. We all look so different from each other. So much variation and my mom’s side never taught my mom Portuguese so it’s always been an invisible heritage to us. My grandma would rarely share anything other than her maiden name Duarte. So anyways, as a 41 yo it’s nice to every once in a while listen to someone’s perspective about a topic that should have had more influence in one’s life but tragically didn’t. My grandma always wanted it to be this way. Not sure what she went through but it’s sad. I’m not mad about it at all, just sad since I know she must have gone through a lot to want to disappear that part of her and us. Thanks for the upload! Adds a little piece of relevance for me personally and it’s appreciated.
Hey guys call me Paul a Canadian nerd Portugal is not Latino. Latino means Latin America and Portugal is in Europe not america and Portugal to me is classified as Hispanic because Hispania is modern day Spain AND PORTUGAL!!!
Portuguese people are by definition “Latin”, “Lusophone”,”Romanic”,”Italic” etc. words have more than one definition. You are correct that Latino means related to the natives or inhabitants of Latin America though…Just as Brazilians are Non-Hispanic Latinos the Portuguese, French, Italians, Spaniards and Romanians among other countries I’m not naming because I’m not educating a child on TH-cam when it’s the school systems job are Latin people by the adjective form’s definition.
Portugal is not Hispanic. It's lusophone and a part of the Europa latina from an european standpoint. Americans (estadunidenses) are usually the ones associating latinos to America (not to be rude).
@Itz Yanii That's an anachronism. Hispania was a mere arbitrary province of the roman empire, that collapsed 1500 years ago. Hispania was not an independent country. Mexicans call themselves hispanics, yet they don't come from hispania, were never part of the roman empire. "Latinos" don't come from the region of Rome the Latium, do they?
@@docdave1994 NO not at all but the latin come from the grko and the greko from our script of sudwest in algarve , our ancient script gave form to most indoeuropean in europe
Latino is a term for which I have no respect. It’s divisive not uniting. However, Latino as its commonly understood, means Spanish and Portuguese speaking people from Latin America-For whatever reason doesn’t apply to French speaking lands in the Americas.
The problem is that "Latino" is a nebulous term. It has gained a ethnic connotation refering to the mestiço populations of the New World, and using for Europeans is absurd. That's why using Romance Language speakers is a more suitable term, since it adresses solely the linguistic taxonomy.
Doc Dave No, people in the « New world » are called Latino too, because of the spanish and portuguese influence. Basically, Latino comes from Europe. But the americans used this racist and generalist term of Latino to designate people from south america. And it’s absolutely wrong.
@@tyhoeofficial3180 Your statement is confusing and conflicting. The languages in use in Latin America came from Europe, yes, but Latin-AMericans are not Portuguese and Spaniards living in Latin America. Maybe "Latino" has gained a somewhat of a negative connotation in the US, and some Latinos are trying to distant themselves from the term to escape racism. Nonetheless, European Portuguese people have nothing to do with the way Hispanic/Latino immigrants are perceived in the US.
Doc Dave Not only the language, but a whole culture. A lot of latino americans are direct descendants of latino europeans. They are 100% white, or more tanned like south portuguese and spaniards people. Latino is used in Europe too, but not as a racist and generalist as word like in the usa.
@@tyhoeofficial3180 Being "a direct descendent" of Europeans and being European are 2 very different things. Still, nowadays unmixed people in Latin-America are a very small minority. Latin-American cultures are not European nor indigenous but mestiço. You can't deny that, and LatAm tend to do this a lot, the core of South America has an indigenous factor. Thinking that South America is Europe's appendix shows a lack of deep understanding of both sides. Why pretending that all the different indigenous ethnic groups never existed and count for nothing? Maybe the fiercest racism isn't found in the USA, but among South Americans themselves when they hate a part of themselves.
Except that, if I correctly understood your stance, Portuguese, Spanish, Italians and French aren't Latino. They speak a Latin based language and that's all. You eventually could say that we are "Latin" (at least some people do) but we, the Portuguese, don't usually do that. So, you can't say that we are "Latino", that's only for people that live in the Americas and speak a latin based language. There are in the Américas people spaking Spanish, Portuguese and French and those are "Latinos". Brazilians are Latinos but Portuguese aren't. Check here: th-cam.com/video/GBt5rMD2aDc/w-d-xo.html
@Gui J yeah, go for it... probably we don't give a fuck to what you think... who do you think you are? The new Messias? LOL. The link that you've shown is for a linguistic concept, not for a sociological/racial one as the word "Latino" is used for in (and only) the USA. Not for language even if it is logically included, but for social background.
@Gui J Dude, "Latin America" is a term coined by Napoleon III to contrast Portugal and Spain's colonies with England's. It designates a geo-political entity and those who hail from it. It's a purely linguistic concept: not all Latinos (eg Chicanos in the US) are romance language speakers, and not all romance language speakers are Latinos.Just like English, Portuguese is a cross-cultural and isn't the language of single ethnic group. I know that Latinos love to claim the Non-Latin-americans into their Latino sphere because it's flattering. I'll call the Latino identity upon myself the day Germans, Brits, Dutch, Jamaicans, Nigerians, African-Americans, Chicanos, Asian Americans will all be called Anglo-Saxon/Germanics.
@@lusitanosdomundo - Makes sense, because actually most of the Spanish Colonialism in the Americas was led by Basques. There's actually 2 countries in the world with Basque name, and there isn't a Basque Nation... Basque definably isn't a latin language...
@@longliveavalon then you should know we were talking language wise; all languages spoken in Europe are of Semitic origin, except Euskara. Who speaks Euskara? And there are Basques too in France.
The word Latino comes from Latin in Europe people that speak the romance language that has Latin roots originally is not something that's people in Europe in general or the European countries would identify that is in South America they use these definitions to disassociate with Europeans Latin America wants to do their own identity and their own culture so it makes sense why they use the word Latino but as myself either once I heard a European a French or Italian to Spanish or Portuguese use the word Latino as a definition to claim them self because all Europeans they know the word Latino comes from Latin a language that was spoken before before the discovery of South America before it became Latin America
In Europe the Portuguese , Spaniards , Italian , French , Romanian and Moldovan speakers are the Latin people because they speak Latin languages. When it comes to genetics they are not related at all , the Portuguese do not have the Etruscan , Umbrians , Apulian , etc , genes of modern Italians meaning that there was no admixture between the Romans and the local population. The Roman genes are not found in most of the Latin \ Romance speakers in Europe but only in small pockets in eastern Spain and south France. In the Americas it is pretty much the same. In 1500 there was 3 million genetic English persons and 1 million genetic Portuguese. There are today 90 million persons of English ancestry and 30 million of Portuguese. The USA was the most colonized territory by an European colonial power and 27 million of the USA citizens are of English ancestry (8% to 9% of the population). In Brazil there was never a colonization but after it became independent there was a strong migration from Portugal to Brasil. It is estimated that around 2.5 million Brazilians are of Lusitanic ancestry and further 2.5 million are of Lusitanic culture , mainly Jews , Gypsies , north Africans and immigrants from all over Europe that were in Portugal and moved to Brazil. Around 1.20% of the Brazilian are of Lusitanic ancestry a 1.20 of Portuguese culture. Genetics do not lie. In central and south America like in Europe they are Latin because they speak Latin languages , being genetically Latin\Romance from the Romans or Hispanic\Iberian from the Spaniards and Portuguese , perhaps in some areas of Argentina , Brazil and Uruguay due to the strong influx of Italian immigrants. The Portuguese and Spaniards from Madrid area and the Basque Country are genetic very close related but in general Latin Europeans are not related to each other at all and much less with the Latin Americans.
I'm sorry, sir, but you have no idea what you're talking about. From Northern to Southern Brasil, all populations have the majority of European genes (spanning from 60% to 77%, North to South). Even though most of white Brazilians are from Italian descent, almost every single brazilian has Portuguese genes and, from the white populations (that makes about 50% of Brazilian population), 20% are of portuguese ancestry. White luso-brazilians will generally have around 80% of their genes from Portugal/Iberian Peninsula. And, all things considered, this is a trend all over Latin America. The absolute majority of Hispanics do have a huge genetic influence from the Peninsula.
@@sergio7917 Many people in Brazil have some degree of European ancestry, but few people are pure Europeans. Most Brazilians are mixed, and that's the not the same as being European.
@@docdave1994 Your reasoning leaves a too narrow path for defining what 'being European' means. Portuguese, Spanish and Southern Italian peoples all have, to some extent, mixed blood with Northern African and even Sub-saharan Africans. Greeks and Balcanic peoples are also mixing their blood with non-European muslims and/or Middle Eastern peoples. Russians and other European-Uralic nations have been mixing their genes with Central Asian peoples for millenia, as well. So, if not having mixed blood defines what 'European' means, you've just cut off probably more than half of the people who are actually in Europe. Of course Brazilians are not European, since Brazil is located in America, but a huge chunk of the Brazilian population can be defined as 'White', since they're of mostly European descent. Even if there's a 15 - 20% of non-European blood in many White Brazilians, you probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference from a Native European, anyway.
Sérgio R. Gouvêa Lopes Pkus who wants to be pink anyways. I am “Latino” of mostly Iberian ancestry. Not to brag, but I could have picked from many 100 % North European women to marry. I picked a women of I Iberian ancestry. I just like the look better. It has nothing to do with thinking one race is better than the other. Some people think “Hispanics/Latinos” want to be white lol. Most of us like a little melanin. So us wanting to be “white” is not accurate. We claim our brothers and sisters in Portugal and Spain because of the connections to our blood, language, culture, religion, etc. not because we want to be “white” or even need anything from Europe. I do very well in America.
@@XxAlexanderProxx Nothing personal, but the Portuguese aren't your brothers, sorry. Different language, blood, culture. The Portuguese aren't mestozos. To me, mexicans and people of that nature are foreigners like other foreigners, that I don't really have anything against nor care for.
i think portuguese ppl are lusitanos, not hispanic or latino, even that we speak latin language we are not latinos but lusitanos instead. Portugal have a lot of mixed races so its so hard to define us. So we are lusitanos and that's it!
So the right term is not "latino" but "latin-americans". Latino is supouse to be a romance word to refere a latin (related to Rome) origem thing. A latino can be an latin-european or an latin-american so if you are portuguese or french of course you are not a latin-american, becouse you are not american but european.
Portuguese people are Iberian, as are most of Spaniards, the two countries are different, have different language and even culture.. But they look alike in every way. Latinos are people from the America's, they might at some point in history been colonies of these two, but are something completely different
The word Latino, is not a race. Portugal, Spain, Italy, France and Romania are part of the romance language, because our language derived from Lantin . Latinos was used to define people who are from South America of Spanish speaking language countries. Brazilians however never define themselves as Latinos. Brazil was settled with people from Portugal, Africa, Philippines, Japan and other countries, as for the rest of South America they were mostly settled with people from Spain.
Brazil has never received people from the Philippines LOl ... The other countries in South and Central America also received people from Africa; Spaniards have always been a minority in most countries, they are mostly mestizos, almost no women from Spain came to the colonies in America
I think everyone is confused with what Latino means. Look, we also have a huge amount of Arabic. Everyone remembers the Roman’s, but no one remembers the Moors.
@@docdave1994 too much to explain here. It talks about the history of Portuguese in America and how they were not accepted into white schools, not able to vote or own land... not until they assimilated to white Americans were they accepted. Best to read
@@lindsaywatkis6328 that's not unlike Scandinavians, Irish, Germans, Italians, French. But that doesn't say anything about whether the Portuguese are Latinos or not.
I’m portuguese I identify as Hispanic because really the only thing stopping us from being full Hispanic is our language genetically and ethnically were Hispanic but based off language we’re not but because of our ancestry we’re hispanic
@@reynical3083 because I’m light brown I won’t call myself white so no I’m just Hispanic but most Portuguese people just call themselves white but I am apart of the 10% that identifies as Hispanic
@@GBG._.Spooky the reason i asked is because my bestfriend is portuguese and he's really tan but he and his whole family identify as white and that suprised me
you could perhaps admit to be part of the chronology depicted as egnastia as many had to become. it is a difficult semetic question and commend your confidence to explain, i look forward for more people like yourself to confront semetic questions. i was unsure as to the extent of the portugues time period involving egnastia.
In Portugal, we have lot of origins :Iberic, Romans, lusitania, celts and even nordic for the north. But because of our language as Spanish and Italian we called ourself latino. French in fact are also Latinos but in reality we don't consider french people as latino because to be latino is more cultural than anything. But for the love of God we're not Hispanic!!!!! Portugal and Spain it's close but in fact it's totally different
In the American definition? Nope lol. The Roman name for the geographical Province of Hispania is purely geographical, nothing to do with ethnicity since the people who populated the peninsula were all different tribes
So where do I fall? I'm a Heinze 57 of ethnicity. I'm southern Italian, Portuguese, Hispaña, Albanian Greek... But I'm truly not Caucasian, only the American census would put me in that category. Don't get me wrong The small percentage of my white side is French English and Scottish... But seriously where do I fit in? I fly the Italian in Portuguese flag all the time at my house, at my campsite, But regular Americans can't comprehend what Portugal is.
But italy and portugal are white european countries? You are white ma'am, you are of european descent and speak a european language if u like it or not
The term Hispanic is mostly used in America to refer to people of Latin America. Latino can be anyone of a latin speaking country from the originators of Latin Europe and it's colonies. There would NOT be Latinos in the Americas without the Spanish and Portuguese or the French the latin people of Europe. It is not uncommon to hear a Spanish, or Portuguese ,French or Italian person say that are latino but never hear them say Hispanic. Also the European Latino is racially different from the latin American who for the most part are mixed but can be any race.
If Brazilians are Latinos bc they are from a country founded by Portugal which is a romance speaking country , then it's fair to say that Brasilians are Portuguese too, right?
@@docdave1994 No, because being Portuguese and Brazilian are two different nationalities. Both are latino. Mexicans and Spanish are two different nationalities both are latino. However, Spain and Portugal, just like France and Italy are just latin. Portuguese and Spanish speaking countries in the Americas are latin American, or latino Americano. The name itself latin American is referencing that there's other latin people outside of the Americas. Where do you think the term latin or latino originated?
@@SilVia-hs2kb Your definition of "latino" is based on a class of languages that share Latin as a common ancestor, and also use it as an ethnic term. A family of language doesn't change culture, race, and history.
@@docdave1994 In Europe groupings of countries are divided by, shared DNA and common Ancestry, culture, language and history not just by countries. Europe has many countries divided into different groupings, The Balkans, The Saxons, The Anglo, The Anglo Saxons, The latin , The Nordic, The Slavic, etc...again, WHERE DO YOU THINK THE TERM LATIN OR LATINO CAME FROM?
@@docdave1994 I'll answer it for you, the term latino and latin came from the Spanish and the Portuguese when they were colonizing their part of the Americas. To be distinguished from the English aka Anglo or Anglo Saxon that were colonizing the northern part of the Americas. Wasn't that hard was it?? History doesn't care abut your feelings or your point of view. It is what it is.
Paris Michouis Portuguese and Spaniard are the same race Same dna No different We only have different nationality Latino mean u come from Latin culture U my brother are Latino Be proud
Daniel Coronado yes bro this man is a racist My family is from Portugal The word Latino Means defendant of Latin culture Portuguese are super Latino Spain is super Latino This guy is lame
@@Made0nEarth Your comment is very Euro-centric. "Latino" is understood as an ethnicity, and LatinoAMERICANOS have a different ethnicity than Europeans even though they speak a romance language.
@@docdave1994 America (English) Latin America (Portuguese/Spanish) Latino is not a race they are all Portuguese and Spanish people mixed with African slaves but in the end they all speak LATIN so we call them Latinos.
@@Made0nEarth "Latino" is the demonym of the geopolitical term Latin-America coined to designate the part of the Americas who didn't speak English. Europe and Europeans are out of the picture. FYI, Latin isn't spoken anymore.
I never been to South America, I know nothing about their culture for me só I don’t consider myself either hispanic or Latino. Portuguese descendants are called luso and that’s what we identify yourselves with
Portuguese and brazilians are both luso bc they descend from thus group,but Brazil is super diverse,mot ppl are lusitanians but there are also blacks,asians and germanics in brazil,both are latinos bc they speak a latin language
@Caio Hansen É latinoamericano. Não gosto desses termos que os estadounidenses ficam usando pra tentar "diminuir" outros povos mas... Acho que é até daora ter alguma coisa pra identificar com um grupo, no caso os outros latinoamericanos. (Não somos hispânicos, claro)
as someone from both latin america, and also latin europe, I think the term latino makes more sense for european people like spanish italians or portuguese, because almost all of america is latin, and the 2 main non-latin countries both have around 20% latin population (hispanics in the US, Quebec in Canada), so basically, America is latin, and anglo-americans are a minority, but Europe is not latin, it is much more diverse, and latin europeans are very distinct and different from germanics or slavs I think we should forget our differences, and work together, as we are a big family with a lot of potential that's being divided by politics that isn't even our own, like the politics of the US census and stuff like that
Wrong, very wrong question. Never ask a Portuguese person if they think of themselves as Hispanics. We are Portuguese Lusitanos and Celtic in the north. If you want to offend Portuguese people quickly call them Hispanic.
You are latino. No Hispanic. Portuguese derived from the Latin. Therefore....you....my highness ... are LATINA too. The meaning have been distorted through the years so now everybody thinks Latinos are just salsa dancing people.
@@MilodeScorpio 😉😉 love the your highness!! I know I'm a hotblooded latina, I was just saying I not Hispanic. Portugal is much older then spain there for we are not Hispanic. Anyway Portuguese and Spanish are like brother's that fight all the time is our thing lol
Hispanic? Roman times. Latinos, mmmh not wrong, since we speak a language based on Latin. But we are lusitanian. We were here when the Romans invaded. If for you Latino derives from speaking a Latin language don't forget Romania. Portugal, Spain, Italy, France and Romania are Latin speaking country's. Calling Mexicans Latinos is a joke, at least for us europeans.
Daniel Coronado based on the term Latino u can say italians are the most latino people across the world becouse latium is the region where Rome is situated
Orionte9 I know many Spanish people don’t consider themselves white, I know Portuguese and Spanish language and cultures are very similar. I’ve heard a few Portuguese people refer to themselves as latin, and all the Spanish people I’ve met call themselves Hispanic. In your opinion does it make sense for Spanish people to call themselves Hispanic. Like people from Spain, is Hispanic the right word for them?
Personally I know throughout my (very large) family we don’t consider ourselves white, latino, or hispanic. I view Portuguese as there own cultural group ( just my opinion) so if anything ever asks for my race I say other 🤷♀️
There are 100,000 Portuguese living in Spain. Portuguese represent 13% of Andorra's population. Portuguese people love hispanic/Spanish culture. We are siblings. I'm Argentinian of Italian and Galician/Spanish descent
You see, the difference is that hispanics love and feel flattered to claim the Portuguese as hispanics, but the Portuguese take offense at being called hispanics and want nothing to do with that term.
Doc Dave hispanic or iberian is only a word to relate the evolution of the vulgar latin in that region called from the romans "hispania" in which the modern portugal was included so yes you speak an Hispanic Language and ethnically you are Spaniards even if u don't want to be called like this. And no,lusitans do not exist anymore since 1500 years, your dna confirms it
@@torrezno1990 Not to be disrespectful as I don’t know who I am arguing with on the internet, you could be a child for all I know, in that case you should not be on the internet talking to strangers and this message is not meant for you. If you are not then I just want to say that you are everywhere and so obsessed with Portuguese people. Your even prejudice against Galician Spaniards . Your not even watching these videos for educational purposes but just to be condescending. Spanish women??? Majority of the time Portuguese men aren’t talking about women from Spain, if they want something different they usually marry Brazilian or Cape Verdean women or Angolan or even German. Arrogance and delusions. Get off the internet for a day. Portuguese and Spaniards are the exact same, stop being prejudice.
Confundido Germanicos com Celtas,o norte e a galiza foram colonizados por celtas puros sem mistura,o centro ficaram os celtiberos e no sul os iberos que rapidamente foram dominados por gregos,fenicios,cartagineses,etc... Na realidade eu acho que a tribo pai dos portugueses e galegos são os Galaeci que povoaram á Galiza e o norte do Douro .Eles eram celtas sem mistura com iberos.Apesar de romanizados mantiveram a cultura e várias palavras celtas.Ao contrario do sul da iberia que as palavras celtas são inexistentes ou raras. Não para mais porque Galiza,Norte do Douro,Bretanha,Irlanda,Escocia e Pais de gales sejam culturalmente celtas.
No sorry but the dna of portuguese people is more close to italic dna than celtic. And it is proved that many portuguese scientist covered up the dna ressources about your ethnicity and the results showed a strong NORTHERN AFRICAN/BERBER presence in the region of Algarve. Im sorry if I disappoint you
Latino or Hispanic is NOT A RACE ITS A LATIN CULTURE SMH.... There is Latin Europa & Latin America. There is nothing to due with RACE or SKIN COLOR to be Latino or Hispanic. True Hispanics are from the Iberia witch are Portugal & Espana. The problem in America is when you apply for a job etcc. You have to put down either 4 things white , black , Latino or Hispanic ( witch is not a race ) or Asian. Also can put down OTHER. people are brain wasted over the years. thinking Latino or Hispanic is a race Confusing people. Stating that if you speak Spanish only you can put down Latino or Hispanic. People automatically think its a race when its a culture. Not going to get into detail. Would be to much to list. But, You can be a Latino or Hispanic by DNA , Latin based cultures ( romance languages ). Etcc .
Hispanic isn't a race. That said European, African, White, Asian neither are races. In reality they are euphemisms, ways to talk about race without coming across as to assertive (racist?). When people use "Hispanic" as a race they mean "mestizo", since the vast majority of Hispanics are mestizo. In regards to Latino as a culture, I think the connection to ancient Latin is just a attempt at an ego boost, because Latin America has little to do with Ancient Rome. Latin America is a geopolitical concept referring to part of the Western hemisphere colonized by Portugal or Spain, and all that involves such a greater indigenous population, greater miscigenation in DNA and culture.
@@user-rc4mj6pm2d If you’re talking about the general usage of Latino (Latin American, from Latin America) the Portuguese aren’t “Latino”. That’s the general understanding in America so if you came over here claiming Latino you’d get laughed at
Do Sicilian people consider themselves as hispanic after so many years of domination by Spain? No!!! Portuguese speaking countries(lusophones) are not hispanic
Gustavo Matias Hispanic is a term refering to the roman province of Hispania in which portugal was included so the variations of vulgar latin evolved from this region are called "hispanic". Noone is calling you a spanish, it is only an old word refering to your language seen from the roman eyes
But you can also call it Iberian The word lusitano comes from the people existed in the north of portugal before the conquest of the romans and these Peoples do not exist anymore. Portuguise have more latin(italic) dna ancestry than celtic ahahaha even if you won't admit it
@@giovannipigliacampo4849 before you spread your ass talking about the language of the lusitano people i must inform you that the base of Portuguese language got its meanings and similarities to Hittite or hurrian languages of the past that are extinct second to the experts but not it is alive and very well represented by Portuguese language today ,. if you compare some meaning Portuguese words with Italian ones it does not make any connection at all it is completely not related in meaning so just for that , Portuguese is more close to a Semitic language than to Latin itself
@@danythrinbell1596 omg😂😂😂😂😂 u are free to believe that portuguise is more semitic than latin. I don’t want to discuss with such ignorant people expecially when they are so close minded.
I'm latino and portuguese people are not latinos, it's common sense, they have similar languages and culture, but not Latinos, here in Toronto they speak to me in Portuguese because i understand them very well and I speak to them in Spanish.
@@TheLazyEntrepreneur04 you will never hear Portuguese or Italians latino, that's just the reality, plus latino is also used as a short term for latin american. the truth is mostly people around the globe sees latinos as people from the Americas, but yes Portuguese are technically latin
I am Portuguese, I consider myself Latino. But with HUGE roots from the Lusitanos, so I am a LUSO-LATINO. I can say that me and many other friends of mine, we consider ourselfes LUSO-LATINO, and no, we dont consider South Americans, Latinos. We call them mostly Mesticos (mixed).
@@Utilizador-gs3lx Há, para brancos com pretos, pretos com brancos, asiáticos com pretos, brancos com asiáticos, bla bla bla... A realidade é a ironia de um povo que não tem raízes naquela terra serem racistas. Mas não nos podemos esquecer que os USA é um país que sofre de desinformação e falta de conhecimento global. Muito típico de um imperio, porque o é.
Latin América: Argentina Bolívia Canadá Quebec Chile Brasil Colômbia Costa rica México Peru Panamá Porto rico Uruguay Venezuela Etc... Latin europeu: Andorra Italy France Portugal Mônaco Moldova România San marino Spain Vatican Todos que tem a linguagem derivada do Latin ( espanhol, portuguese, italiano e francês) são latinos, mas vocês são latinos e lusitano.
@@lusitanosdomundo lol it was just a joke! Look up the "proud boys" here in the U.S. They're a right wing group who wear yellow and black Perry's!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I have read on paper work before that " luso-American" is what I should define as, but that is not typically and normally on paperwork. They do not acknowledge us on the whole of it. We are not Caucasian, we are not Latino, but we ARE something, and our language is worldwide, especially because of Brazil.
I am a portuguese and my I am not White I am a little darker so like light brown an spanish people too so and the thing is if the portuguese and spanish people didn’t discover Brazilian... there would be no latinos and the word latino came before Brazilian... so I would say that portuguese and Spanish people are latinos too
i'm not portuguese not italian not romano i'm a pure lusitanian , native to iberian peninsula far away as 5000 years call me latino if it makes you have a orgasm
Oh my god! A genius has born! Portuguese are lusitanos not latinos or arabs ( the arabs ocupied only the south of the coutry). But the portuguese are one of the oldest countries with defined borders in the world(more than 900 years of history as a country) we are Europeans of full right. 😔 please read some history books...we colonized and discoverd parts of the called new world, we had ocupied parts of África and our influence went even to asia where were traders and we colonized by miscellanea so the portuguese decendants in the so called at the time ( please contextualize) new world should be called portuguese decendant or lusitanians...but please the words latino and hispanic aren't more than noncence a rude way of describing ancestry... most of the ones you call latinos are from countries ocupied by spain as well as hispanic so the same ocupier diferent designations? That sounds to me as historical racism i think that it was said for so long that people really think that they describe ancestry... but thats what i think...
@@truth.beauty.and.goodness I not only accept, but embrace mine. I do not accept what's not mine, Amerindian in this case. First off, if you think all Scandinians are blue eyed blonds, you should google the Sami people, you might learn a thing or 2. You're not Scandinivian, nor European yourself so you need to stop putting words in other people's mouths. You sound unhappy and that makes you irrational, Nordic White supremacist statments inside your mestiço Latina's mouth don't make you sound very smart. See, I'm not from Latin America, I don't speak spanish, I have no Amerindian ancestry. Nothing's wrong with all those things. I just do not want them called upon me because I have nothing to do with any of them. The confusion comes from the fact that you're from a culture based on racial hierarchy where mestiços view themselves as White Europeans and look down upon more Indigenous looking folks and their ways. When Europeans distance temselves, they rejected, hurt, and defensive like you just did. Different cultures and phenotypes exist, that's a fact, but difference doesn't mean hierarchy.
@@docdave1994 who the heck said I was from Latin America? I'm Spaniard, but I consider myself latina, because well.. I am. It would be stupid to say I wasn't. I live in the US and I find I have more in common with Latinos than Nordics, not that I have anything against them. You, my dear sir, sound very much angry and butthurt that people confuse you with a fellow Latin person. If you are the guy in the video, you even had to make a video about it. Good day.
@@truth.beauty.and.goodness 'Spaniard born and raised in Spain? Of course I am angry being confused for latino, I am not one. Do you like being called mexican. You claim being spaniards,and feeling close to latinos, you may have your reasons for it. However, most spaniards from Spain do not like being called "latinos", or even "hispanics" in the US. You must be an exception then.
@@cruzgrind8161 I kno portuguese n spanish r basically the same ppl genetically. It's just culturally I feel a bit off bc they're still different cultures. I'm not saying there's anything wrong w me having portuguese blood. It's fine n I don't really care tbh. It's just not what I expected or connected myself too
Then why would any Hispanic call themselves Hispanic, if racism is the reason? The reason Portuguese people reject the hispanic label is because they do not identify with it and because they're not Hispanics. Them hispanics seem to be offended that the portuguese would not want to share their identity, and get some prestige thanks to it.
This is true so fucking true I’m Portuguese and a proud Latino Fuck all u racist idiots Portuguese and Spain is the same race Just different nationality
RG Productions oh my god another one Lusitanos were the people situated in the north of Portugal before the conquest of Iberia by the Roman Empire. Nowadays the portuguise people have more italic and african dna than celtic. YOU ARE NOT lusitans anymore
@@F.Picknaipa It doesn't. The term Latino doesn't exist back then. Also are there very few people from Italy in South America. Spanish and Portuguese don't have much Italian DNA.
@@duranium4445 eres idiota? La palabra latino existe desde hace más de 2000 años. La cultura latina es de ROMA!!! Los latinos son nativos de Italia, te guste o no. Ellos conquistaron la península ibérica. Naciste en south America? Eres AMERINDIO. Los nativos de América son los ameridios. Los latinos NUNCA llegaron y latinizaron el continente americano. Los franceses utilizaron el término latinoamericano para los territorios americanos colonizados por los paises latinos.
All this is crazy my friend is from Brazil. And she speaks Portuguese... But she doesnt like to be called latino. Idk she likes to be called European.. Which is crazy cuz Brazil of course is in south America.
Maybe she doesn't like being called "latina" because the term has become a synonym for "Mexican, Central American" and refers to a constellation of characteristics she doesn't identify with, such as the spanish language, tacos etc Why would she identify with that?
Lusitanosdomundo Org Latino in the USA is described as a descendant of Latin culture People are confused And any Brazilian is Latino Just like any Mexican Or any other descendants of Latin culture
This guy is a racist. Portuguese and Spaniards are Latino. Spaniards are BOTH Hispanic and Latino. Hispanic is derived from Hispania, which means "land of the rabbits" and refers to anyone from Spain. It was the ancient name for Spain when the people from ancient Latium (from where the Latin people come) in Roman empire was occupying the Iberian peninsula. Portuguese are Lusitanos AND Latino. The thing is, the term Lusitano is not widely known of or used outside of Portuguese, unlike Hispanic, especially in the United States. The Spaniards themselves identify as Hispanos, and they are the original Hispanics. People in Latin america are referred to as such PRECISELY because of Spain & Portugal and their conquest and colonization of the region. There is no difference in meaning between "Latino", with an O and the word Latin. Latin"O" is how the word Latin is said in Spain/Portugal. Anyone saying "Latino" only applies to Latin Americans shows their ignorance. Latino = Spanish & Portuguese for Latin. Central and South America are forever linked to the Iberian Penisula through hundreds of years of history, language, cultural affinities, religion, and genetics. The original Latin peoples are descended from the area now known as Italy. There is where the Latium people come from and the Roman empire had its start. The Roman empire conquered and occupied everything around the Mediterranean and beyond including the Iberian Penninsula, the Romans "Latinized" the Iberians, bringing to them eventually the Roman catholic religion, their language, which evolved into their own languages. Some of their genetics and customs and culture. The Spaniards, Portuguese are second-generation Latin countries. When the Spanish and Portuguese became dominant, they began to explore and conquer like the Romans. The Spanish/Portuguese did the same thing in the Americas but on a much larger scaler and changing the genetic makeup of the continent. Again, this man is a supremacist and a racist.
It's funny how you carefully omit to mention that the Americas were already populated at the time of EUropean visit, and those people already there had a culture of their own. Those people haven't been wiped out, unlike in North America, which is why the US and Canada were always a lot closer to Europe than Latin America. Those brown people, their descendants and their cultures are still around. I know Latin Americans are very racists and look down on whomever is more indigenous-looking than they are. But that's their problem, their passion. I think you're too stuck inside your West Coast Hispanic reality. You should travel to Europe, what I am saying will come into perspective. It won't be a pleasant surprise, but it will be an eye-opener, and a reality check for you.
Portuguese people and Spaniards there are more like Romans or Arabs or gypsies Latin also is Latium that means the region of people where they spoke Latin when they have that in common in ancient times
Latinos are a mixed race, which is a mix of "(ANY)" other race with, italian, Spanish or Portuguese or french, which are a mix of different races themselves for example latin is a language not a European race, it is only a race outside these countries. Heres why... Portuguese are a mix of Moors (persian race), Norse (Celtic/viking) which results in the race called (lusitanos) but the name comes from religious nonsense from the Norse celtic people which were dark religious people, thankfully as of 2001 portugal no longer identifies dark celtic religion as a Portuguese identity only historical tribal accolade for educational purposes but one northern district still practices its heritage. The Italians are persian/caucasian. The spanish are Norse (celtic) (Non persian middle eastern) note persians were north African and Egyptian (africa), not middle eastern. So the answer to that question is no! And no European country is of latin race because the latin race is a mix of Italian, spain, Portugal or french a mix with any other mix, if you are caucasian and have a kid with a french, spanish Portuguese or Italian, your kid is officially latin, ( latin caucasian) and that goes for any other mix from any place any race, it is a common misconception that latin races are solely south American when that's not true and the misconception comes from political crap, the first Latins started in Africa during and after colonisation of the Portuguese. Original Latins are from africa, specifically Cape verde which was one of the first places to be colonised by the Portuguese and in general, portugal was also the first to exploration and colonization which in terms of colonization is nothing to be proud of other than the fact that now all that is over and our great country can focus on showing what great culture and country Portugal is... Latin is a language! Portuguese Latin : south america/ africa/ Asia (china) (India) (Indonesia) Australasia/North America (USA) (Not canada) Hispanic Latin (Spanish): south America / Asia. French : africa / north america (canada) So the factual answer to the question is no. And please try to educate the canadians and USA that they are latins! They still think they are british, it's okay young country with only 300 yrs (APRX) I'm glad I have settled the confusion. Enjoy...
honestly idk when Portugal n Spain were together before it was called the Iberian Peninsula it was called Hispania. This doesn’t occur to me as I’m a Afro European With Latino Decendant. As my avó is Columbian.I believe that Portuguese are Hispanic
Portuguese people consider themselves as 'Portuguese'; You know, that small country in Europes western tip? The one with over 1000 years (considering the 1st County of Portugal)... The one with the oldest borders in the world? The first and long lasting global empire? You see 'Latino' or 'Hispanic' associated with race; Latin is language... But then again, Portuguese has also other important parts, for example from germanic language. Our judicial system is based in the old Visigoth system (germanic), etc etc etc.... If you want a clear answer, racially wise: go research US Census documentation, which considers Portuguese as 'European Stock'/'white'. Only Spain isn't considered that way ;). Have fun... and remember: US CENSUS has the answer you are searching for ;)
@@joaoteixeira7410 looks like speaking (or writing) english isn't the same as 'understanding' english :) 'Latinos' as referred in the post is not related to Language, but related to ethnicity, thats why I mentioned the US CENSUS. It's quite explicit there. We are Iberians (maybe not you). Even if it was to be related to Language, then all Europeans (except for the Basques) would be Israeli/Jews because all European languages are semitic languages. Does it make sense to you now ?
@@joaoteixeira7410 para ti talvez; tens o direito de pensares o que quiseres. Engraçado como existe o termo Lusitânia do qual temos tanto orgulho, que até o utilizamos para nos descrever, 'Luso' por exemplo. Os heróis nacionais como Viriato. É tudo isso que faz de nós latinos ;) Não fosse tudo isso Celta/Ibero. Ainda bem que o meu blablablá é coerente com o resto dos Portugueses. Pelo menos no norte e centro. Aí ao sul vive-se grande confusão. Pobres berberes!
this is absurd I get it Spanish/Hispanic culture is a bit different from Portuguese culture But if we consider all Spanish speaking countries as Hispanic Meaning that say Mexico and Columbia have the same exact cultural food then that would be wrong I believe the Portuguese and there by extended to the Brazilians are Hispanic due to the fact that if you even take a dna test you can’t see the difference between Spanish and Portuguese dna And side note people try to say lusitans or lusophones or something saying that only the Portuguese on the Iberian pennisula are directly descended from preceltic tribes But that was over 2 thousand years ago and besides that another side note the moorish people invaded the Iberian peninsula to for over 700 years and people try to say that they didn’t mix with the locals If you are one of those people listen to your self if you were with a group of people for hundreds of years you’re telling me you wouldn’t have just a few times mixed with each other All I’m saying is Portuguese and Spanish or too similar and people don’t want the Portuguese to be ascosiated with the word Hispanic and neither do the Portuguese and if that’s the case Then there should be a new word that includes all Portuguese and Spanish Culture including from Spain Portugal all or South America and the carribean excluding the French speaking countries Mozambique Andorra all of the Portuguese and Spanish speaking and culturaly connected countries should be included under the new word Hisportic 😂 Come up with ideas in the comments please
Your comment relies on a feeling and mirrors a US-American perspective where Anglos tend to minimize the differences between exogroup and Hispanics tend to claim the Portuguese in an attempt aggrandizement complex and run away from their indigenous identity they're trying to downplay. The #1 criteria for being "Hispanic" is to be from or have ties to "spanish-speaking country", that alone disqualifies the Portuguese as Hispanic and makes any further only speculative. For a cultural perspective too "Hispanic" is a mixed bag, with heavy Amerindian influence in the Americas. DNA studies, even those commercial tests are able to discriminate between Portuguese and spanish, yet European population intermixed so much that the DNA overlaps a great deal. Being a cross cultural language, it's not specific culture nor ethnicity, you know a "one size fit all"type of approach is not going to work. There is no need to create a term since they already exist: Portugal, Portuguese, Lusophone. Anything else is only taking away from the Portuguese identity and will be rejected by Portuguese individuals.
Lusitanosdomundo Org If a on size fits all approach isn’t going to work then why do we call all of South America Hispanic/Latino They have different cultures some areas had more slaves some areas didn’t some areas had more natives some didn’t some areas had mixed more than others They is no way people from Venezuela will look exactly like people from Mexico The southern americas are very diverse and have many different look to people in each country and within each country All I’m saying is if we include these Germanic sections in Europe and these Slavic sections in Europe why is it so crazy we include this Hispanic/Lusophone section ?
@@joshuaserrao4951 Latinos have in common Latin America as their home. Hispanics have in common the spanish language. Nothing more, nothing less. Like I've previously said, LatAm and European cultures are very different that's I think it's absurd to believe or expect that all Romance-language speakers to be culturally alike or similar. Since I can tell you're Hispanic yourself and you agree to state that Hispanics are very different from one another, them why lumping them together with Lusophones? Plus Lusophone massively reject the Hispanic label called upon them. How about. I'm fine with a Lusophone/Hispanic grouping as long as all are labeled as Lusophone.
@@joshuaserrao4951 I see. Then your claims applies only to your own personal situation. A fully Portuguese person would never make the statements you make because it doesn't apply to them.
ARE WE SPANISH LATINO....... SPAIN NOPE EUROPEAN AND PROUD OF IT Lol 😆 yes from Europe BUT WHY HOLLYWOOD INSISTS TO REFER TO BENELOPE CRUZ AS LATINA IN CAPTAIN OF THE CARIBBEAN AND SO ON ? SHE IS AN EUROPEAN SPAIN 🇪🇸
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This is so stupid ... “Latino” and “Hispanic” are 2 of the many words that english speakers use incorrectly. Latin is a language, not a race, or ethnicity. The language spread out of Rome, evolved & mixed with others. Nobody is “Latin” but many people/continents speak a language that has Latin influence. Like this guy explains, USA incorrectly uses the word “arbitrarily” to classify people for census (voting & campaigning) purposes.
“Hispanic” is from the Kingdom of “Hispania” which was the name given to the whole Iberian peninsula in Europe. It had a political split (around year 1200) & became Portugal & Spain. We Portuguese & Spanish are the ORIGINAL Hispanics & speak Latin based languages. When England started colonizing North America, Spain & Portugal set out to colonize South America, then mixing with indigenous Aztecs, Arawaks, Wapichana as well as their African slaves, resulting in what Americans call “brown” people. The modern people of South America are not Latin, or “brown”. They are of mixed ethnicities including the original Hispanic bloodlines. Thats why in the 70’s & 80’s Portuguese people WERE included as Hispanic on the census forms. But the main reason lots of portuguese-americans stopped calling themselves Hispanic is because of the negative connotation with “Hispanic” being synonymous with “Mexican” or “illegal” and border-jumping... especially as this guy mentioned in California... but if you tell someone on the East Coast that you’re Portuguese they’ll say “oh, yea, I could tell you werent white.” Again, misuse of the word “white”. Not everyone in Europe is “white”. There’s a gigantic difference between Nordic and Mediterranean.
Many incorrect statements in your comment. "Hispania" wasn't a kingdom. The Portuguese never were included in the Hispanic/Latino census category. If the Portuguese reject the Hispanic/Latino label in the US it's not because of the "negative conotation associated with it", but because it doesn't represent their ethnicity. The word "Latin" has evolved into multiple meanings depending on the context. It's not illogical to call mestizo people from post-colonial Spanish-America "Hispanic" Or "Latino", but it can't mean "Romance-language speaker", or "Ancient Roman" all at once.
@daverei5362 something a lot of English speakers say is "Portugal, Spain and Italy are not Latinos, they are latins"
well, how would a Portuguese, Spanish, or Italian person say "latin man"?
latino.
I rest my case 🙏🏼🙏🏼
@@daverei5362and yes, the Portuguese were definitely considered Hispanic for a very long time.
this is because the US government didn't want to exclude the biggest country in South America from receiving the benefits that Hispanic workers got for being minorities.
so for many decades, being of Portuguese origin made you Hispanic in America.
from what I know Illinois still defines people of Portuguese descent as Hispanic
@@daverei5362 and how could you know what Portuguese people intended when they disliked being called Hispanic?
I believe he's 100% correct.
another example is Dominicans refusing to identify as black.
you've probably heard the online joke of Dominicans saying "I no black, I Dominican" because they see something negative in being called black
Galegos, portugueses, espanhois, catalães, italianos, etc somos latinos europeus. Somos muito diferentes da Europa germânica.
Não tão diferentes
@@pintoz6ninja bue diferentes
@@cookiesup2music não, não são! São até realmente muito parecidos quer tu admitas ou não mas se estudares um pouco vais ver que sim não só na cultura mas como a partilha de conhecimento.... Os cyanetes ou os conii então são o melhor exemplo
@@cookiesup2music né todos os vikings eram grandes loiros de olhos azuis.... Essa percepção da mesma é errada
@@pintoz6ninja oi, seu canadiano... posso dizer com confiança q gringada e a nossa raça não é a mm coisa. se calhar, podemos ser comprados os italianos. mas não os branquinhos d almanha, suécia, inglaterra etc. Nem um dia nas nossas praias podem os bifes sobreviver
I agree with EVERYTHING you said but...wait, Romance language speakers = Latin Language speakers LOL...samething! You erased a bunch of history...what happened to the European Latin Union? or the fact there is a Latin Europe..anyway, overall great job.
Portuguese people are lusitanos or lusos from lusitania we are not latinos nor hispanic. Our language comes from latin but because of roman influence. But our ancestry is lusitanian from the lusitanian tribes. We are not latinos nor hispanic.
@Itz Yanii - wrong, 'Hispanic' means 'related to spanish language'. In case you are not aware Portuguese (and Gaelician) derive from 'vulgar latin' (or sermo vulgaris). It's quite diferent from 'Spanish', often associated with Castilian (central Spain).
Iberian is something far different :) Bye...
@Itz Yanii Spanish and Castilian language wise are the same thing in academical terms. It is composed of many dialects, like Portuguese in which European Portuguese and Brazilian Portuguese are the most common dialects. Basque is a different language like Mirandês os also a different language. Either way 'hispanic' and 'latino' in the US is used related to ethnicity and not culture or language. See the US Census :) It's quite clear. Claiming Portuguese mainlanders are the same ethnicity of Latin Americans is plain stupidity and ignorance. Portuguese in fact have 2 genetic markers which make them unique, 1 only found in Northern Portugal and the other one of the oldest know only present in massive quantities in Portugal and some regions of Spain, mainly Galicia...
@Itz Yanii Castillan is used in every parts of spain, unlike Basque or Galician, therefore it is not irrational to call castillan "spanish" in that it's the national language. Latino is a supra ethnicity in that they belong to a common culturo-geopolitical entity that is Latin America, like Europe, Africa or Asia. In fact, Latin Americans (particular the hispanophones) are much more closely related between them than Europeans, Africans or Asians. Some are actually near identical as Latin American nations are post-colonial arbitrary creations.
@@nmarques7885 where guru you found that unique marker , i'm a north kallaicvo fucker and i did notice nothing of that shit in my body , are you inventing shit ?
@@jeffreyecheverria355 you are not very smart, neither you have an idea of what you are talking about.... so here's a free lesson from someone who actually knows the Peninsula, it's languages, it's customs and has true Iberian DNA.... Take notice of the following:
1. 'Hispanic' -> referes to people, culture or a country related to spain, not a language. You are probably confusing with 'Hispania', the roman/latin name for the Iberian Peninsula. The Arabs called it Al Andaluz, and there's no 'Andaluz' language :) Others called it Lusitânia before... and so on...
2. All languages spoken in Europe, except for Basque (Euskara) are indo-european languages. No where in indo-european languages family or sub-families is a 'Hispanic' language.
3. Spanish, is part of the Italic sub-family of indo-european languages, alongside with other neo-latin languages and romance languages. There's no 'Hispanic' language anywhere to be seen.
4. If you are the kind of the bible guy... Then you also know that in the Iberian Peninsula lie the descendants of Japhet... Which spoke many forms of celtic, not Hispanic...
So please show all proof of any 'Hispanic' language in the Peninsula Ibérica, because I can't really find it....
This topic is very interesting... have you had your DNA tested 23&me. Most Latin Americans have traces of ancestry from many European countries. There are white Latinos, brown Latinos throughout the Americas.
What does the claim of Latin Americans having traces from EUropean countries have to do with the video's topic?
We're Lusitanos,Lusos.
Lusitanians were killed by Latinos (SPQR) or became Latinos to.
@E_girl made it right now. Lusitanian. Thanks
I have a question...please no hate, I'm just confused on my ethnicity. Am I considered a white spanish person or what? According to 2 DNA test I am European, Portuguese, Iberian, Italian, and a small percentage of Egyptian & Congolese. Thanks in advance. 😊
For all intents and purposes you are a white European
In my opinion I think Portuguese is Hispanic because Spain and Portugal were part of the Roman Province of Hispania which is where people get the name Hispanic but that's what I've learned
HO MY SISTER WE COME ALL FROM THE BLACK , WITH THE MIXING MIXING ZAS BECOME WHITE , AS YOU CAN SEE IF A BLACK MARRY A WHITE AND HAVE KIDS , THE KIDS BECOME MORE LIGHTER IN SKIN THAN THE FATHER OR MOTHER
Latina, Hispanic, Ibero American.
You are a person...and that must be enough to everyone
Why is this even a question? Why can't Portuguese people be just European? What's the need to distance ourselves from others?
I agree with you. Why are the Portuguese stripped down of their own European cultural/ethnic identity? We need to distance ourselves from Hispanics because they tend to take away from us by maiciously pushing their hispanic label we want nothing to do with on us.
I've heard of this here in Massachusetts where I'm from Portuguese people are not considered Hispanic in any way shape or form. My grandparents all come from northern Portugal group was plenty of Portuguese people never would anyone consider any of us to be Hispanic
There’s like 4 or 5 Latin languages from different European countries. Therefore you would have to define what a “European” looks like. And besides if you ask most Portuguese people their ethnicity they will most likely say they’re Latin because of their language.
@@Deeswrld 99% do not mark "Hispanic/Latino" in the US census. In fact, most feel insulted by it. Speaking English doesn't make you English or Anglo. Latino pertain to Latin America, a geopolitical entity. Language doesn't change your genetics, culture and ethnicity.
Go read US Census. Bye.
Are we Latino...........NO European and Proud of it Portuguese 🇵🇹
We are Hispanic/Latino
Luso . We are Luso.
we are lusitano/latino/hispanic u can choose whereter which wanna be really
Latino yes! Hispanic NO!!
????? We are European! It's so obvious.
Portuguese Latino???...Technically yes, technically no- It depends on your social motive (in America it was asked if Portuguese wanted to be called Hispanic/ Latino and the majority preferred to use the "W" option) ....and yes, though French, Portuguese, Spanish, etc have uniquely different cultures-they have similar things in common besides the origins of the latin language.
You see heavy similarities in certain older traditional foods dishes (creme renversee/ flan to alcatra/bouef en daube, etc), religion (Roman Catholic), in style of old traditional clothing, some similar names and surnames, etc. All these countries are uniquely VERY festive people and cultures-something latin people usually are. It is very pronounced compared to other cultures.
Without Latin people, the Americas ("latinos and hispanics") and many parts of the world would not be the same cultures. Down to genetics, French, Spanish ,Portuguese share similarities with one another as well (they all share genetic similarities with neighboring Basque too, though Portuguese share more with France and Spain more with Basque) which would have been passed down to South Americans, Carribean people, etc.
The big question is why aren't Brazilians really labelled "latino" when they are from a latin influenced culture (Portugal) and in South America?
As a portuguese native I've asked myself the same question regarding brazillians. A lot of them are mixed race, so I don't know exactly how to categorize them.
That's because Brazilians speak portuguese and most Americans think that to be latino u have to speak Spanish
I’m Portuguese and I am Hispanic I am among the 10% of Portuguese people that call themselves hispanic
@@emoxvx I’m also Portuguese and consider myself hispanic not Latino though I’m Latin/Hispanic
Brazilians are NOT latinos. Latino means people from Latium which is in Italy! No matter what americans think, latino is from Italy
My siblings and I are 50% which makes my mom 100 and my pops not so much lol.
Never knew what to consider it. We all look so different from each other. So much variation and my mom’s side never taught my mom Portuguese so it’s always been an invisible heritage to us.
My grandma would rarely share anything other than her maiden name Duarte. So anyways, as a 41 yo it’s nice to every once in a while listen to someone’s perspective about a topic that should have had more influence in one’s life but tragically didn’t.
My grandma always wanted it to be this way. Not sure what she went through but it’s sad. I’m not mad about it at all, just sad since I know she must have gone through a lot to want to disappear that part of her and us.
Thanks for the upload! Adds a little piece of relevance for me personally and it’s appreciated.
Hey guys call me Paul a Canadian nerd
Portugal is not Latino. Latino means Latin America and Portugal is in Europe not america and Portugal to me is classified as Hispanic because Hispania is modern day Spain AND PORTUGAL!!!
Dude the real latins are in Europe not in America
Portuguese people are by definition “Latin”, “Lusophone”,”Romanic”,”Italic” etc. words have more than one definition. You are correct that Latino means related to the natives or inhabitants of Latin America though…Just as Brazilians are Non-Hispanic Latinos the Portuguese, French, Italians, Spaniards and Romanians among other countries I’m not naming because I’m not educating a child on TH-cam when it’s the school systems job are Latin people by the adjective form’s definition.
Portugal is not Hispanic. It's lusophone and a part of the Europa latina from an european standpoint. Americans (estadunidenses) are usually the ones associating latinos to America (not to be rude).
i have a great respect for the latinos, but we the "portugueses" are lusitanos , part of ibéria but just lusitanos not anything else
@Itz Yanii That's an anachronism. Hispania was a mere arbitrary province of the roman empire, that collapsed 1500 years ago. Hispania was not an independent country. Mexicans call themselves hispanics, yet they don't come from hispania, were never part of the roman empire. "Latinos" don't come from the region of Rome the Latium, do they?
@@docdave1994 NO not at all but the latin come from the grko and the greko from our script of sudwest in algarve , our ancient script gave form to most indoeuropean in europe
Latino is a term for which I have no respect. It’s divisive not uniting. However, Latino as its commonly understood, means Spanish and Portuguese speaking people from Latin America-For whatever reason doesn’t apply to French speaking lands in the Americas.
Why would we not be Iberian Latinos 🇵🇹
Mourogal
The word Latino refers to the group of Hispanic and Portuguese speakers. And there is Latino Europeans and Latino Americans
The problem is that "Latino" is a nebulous term. It has gained a ethnic connotation refering to the mestiço populations of the New World, and using for Europeans is absurd. That's why using Romance Language speakers is a more suitable term, since it adresses solely the linguistic taxonomy.
Doc Dave No, people in the « New world » are called Latino too, because of the spanish and portuguese influence. Basically, Latino comes from Europe. But the americans used this racist and generalist term of Latino to designate people from south america. And it’s absolutely wrong.
@@tyhoeofficial3180 Your statement is confusing and conflicting. The languages in use in Latin America came from Europe, yes, but Latin-AMericans are not Portuguese and Spaniards living in Latin America. Maybe "Latino" has gained a somewhat of a negative connotation in the US, and some Latinos are trying to distant themselves from the term to escape racism. Nonetheless, European Portuguese people have nothing to do with the way Hispanic/Latino immigrants are perceived in the US.
Doc Dave Not only the language, but a whole culture. A lot of latino americans are direct descendants of latino europeans. They are 100% white, or more tanned like south portuguese and spaniards people. Latino is used in Europe too, but not as a racist and generalist as word like in the usa.
@@tyhoeofficial3180 Being "a direct descendent" of Europeans and being European are 2 very different things. Still, nowadays unmixed people in Latin-America are a very small minority. Latin-American cultures are not European nor indigenous but mestiço. You can't deny that, and LatAm tend to do this a lot, the core of South America has an indigenous factor. Thinking that South America is Europe's appendix shows a lack of deep understanding of both sides. Why pretending that all the different indigenous ethnic groups never existed and count for nothing? Maybe the fiercest racism isn't found in the USA, but among South Americans themselves when they hate a part of themselves.
I found out that I’m Irish-German-Portuguese and Norwegian..so am I basically part Latino?
No
Portuguese are Europeans. in America, we are considered white/Caucasian. not Latin or Hispanic. And we do NOT Speak Spanish, we speak Portuguese.
I don’t identify as white... but I don’t identify of as Latina. I always get people asking me what I am. Honestly I don’t even know.
If you look as White as a White, then why in the world would you be anything else but White? White doesn't mean Anglo-Saxon.
Doc Dave not all Portuguese look white, some are very dark
@@evanmonast5522 yeah but originally Portuguese are Celts.
@@longliveavalon Yeah and they also have North African and Jewish DNA
@@radoslavkrazenski5272 how about you boys over there in Macedonia, Poland etc...a lot of Jewish and Roma DNA?
Except that, if I correctly understood your stance, Portuguese, Spanish, Italians and French aren't Latino. They speak a Latin based language and that's all. You eventually could say that we are "Latin" (at least some people do) but we, the Portuguese, don't usually do that. So, you can't say that we are "Latino", that's only for people that live in the Americas and speak a latin based language. There are in the Américas people spaking Spanish, Portuguese and French and those are "Latinos". Brazilians are Latinos but Portuguese aren't.
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@Gui J yeah, go for it... probably we don't give a fuck to what you think... who do you think you are? The new Messias? LOL.
The link that you've shown is for a linguistic concept, not for a sociological/racial one as the word "Latino" is used for in (and only) the USA. Not for language even if it is logically included, but for social background.
@Gui J Dude, "Latin America" is a term coined by Napoleon III to contrast Portugal and Spain's colonies with England's. It designates a geo-political entity and those who hail from it. It's a purely linguistic concept: not all Latinos (eg Chicanos in the US) are romance language speakers, and not all romance language speakers are Latinos.Just like English, Portuguese is a cross-cultural and isn't the language of single ethnic group. I know that Latinos love to claim the Non-Latin-americans into their Latino sphere because it's flattering. I'll call the Latino identity upon myself the day Germans, Brits, Dutch, Jamaicans, Nigerians, African-Americans, Chicanos, Asian Americans will all be called Anglo-Saxon/Germanics.
@@lusitanosdomundo - Makes sense, because actually most of the Spanish Colonialism in the Americas was led by Basques. There's actually 2 countries in the world with Basque name, and there isn't a Basque Nation... Basque definably isn't a latin language...
@@nmarques7885 I'm Basque and also other Iberian (Galician and Aragonese). If I was just pure Basque, I would have no Latin European! Lol
@@longliveavalon then you should know we were talking language wise; all languages spoken in Europe are of Semitic origin, except Euskara. Who speaks Euskara? And there are Basques too in France.
I just found out I have Portuguese blood 🩸 in me. This was very informative!
The word Latino comes from Latin in Europe people that speak the romance language that has Latin roots originally is not something that's people in Europe in general or the European countries would identify that is in South America they use these definitions to disassociate with Europeans Latin America wants to do their own identity and their own culture so it makes sense why they use the word Latino but as myself either once I heard a European a French or Italian to Spanish or Portuguese use the word Latino as a definition to claim them self because all Europeans they know the word Latino comes from Latin a language that was spoken before before the discovery of South America before it became Latin America
There are NO latinos in the Américas! Latinos are from Europe
In Europe the Portuguese , Spaniards , Italian , French , Romanian and Moldovan speakers are the Latin people because they speak Latin languages.
When it comes to genetics they are not related at all , the Portuguese do not have the Etruscan , Umbrians , Apulian , etc , genes of modern Italians meaning that there was no admixture between the Romans and the local population. The Roman genes are not found in most of the Latin \ Romance speakers in Europe but only in small pockets in eastern Spain and south France.
In the Americas it is pretty much the same.
In 1500 there was 3 million genetic English persons and 1 million genetic Portuguese. There are today 90 million persons of English ancestry and 30 million of Portuguese.
The USA was the most colonized territory by an European colonial power and 27 million of the USA citizens are of English ancestry (8% to 9% of the population).
In Brazil there was never a colonization but after it became independent there was a strong migration from Portugal to Brasil.
It is estimated that around 2.5 million Brazilians are of Lusitanic ancestry and further 2.5 million are of Lusitanic culture , mainly Jews , Gypsies , north Africans and immigrants from all over Europe that were in Portugal and moved to Brazil. Around 1.20% of the Brazilian are of Lusitanic ancestry a 1.20 of Portuguese culture.
Genetics do not lie.
In central and south America like in Europe they are Latin because they speak Latin languages , being genetically Latin\Romance from the Romans or Hispanic\Iberian from the Spaniards and Portuguese , perhaps in some areas of Argentina , Brazil and Uruguay due to the strong influx of Italian immigrants.
The Portuguese and Spaniards from Madrid area and the Basque Country are genetic very close related but in general Latin Europeans are not related to each other at all and much less with the Latin Americans.
I'm sorry, sir, but you have no idea what you're talking about. From Northern to Southern Brasil, all populations have the majority of European genes (spanning from 60% to 77%, North to South). Even though most of white Brazilians are from Italian descent, almost every single brazilian has Portuguese genes and, from the white populations (that makes about 50% of Brazilian population), 20% are of portuguese ancestry. White luso-brazilians will generally have around 80% of their genes from Portugal/Iberian Peninsula.
And, all things considered, this is a trend all over Latin America. The absolute majority of Hispanics do have a huge genetic influence from the Peninsula.
@@sergio7917 Many people in Brazil have some degree of European ancestry, but few people are pure Europeans. Most Brazilians are mixed, and that's the not the same as being European.
@@docdave1994 Your reasoning leaves a too narrow path for defining what 'being European' means. Portuguese, Spanish and Southern Italian peoples all have, to some extent, mixed blood with Northern African and even Sub-saharan Africans. Greeks and Balcanic peoples are also mixing their blood with non-European muslims and/or Middle Eastern peoples. Russians and other European-Uralic nations have been mixing their genes with Central Asian peoples for millenia, as well.
So, if not having mixed blood defines what 'European' means, you've just cut off probably more than half of the people who are actually in Europe. Of course Brazilians are not European, since Brazil is located in America, but a huge chunk of the Brazilian population can be defined as 'White', since they're of mostly European descent. Even if there's a 15 - 20% of non-European blood in many White Brazilians, you probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference from a Native European, anyway.
Sérgio R. Gouvêa Lopes Pkus who wants to be pink anyways. I am “Latino” of mostly Iberian ancestry. Not to brag, but I could have picked from many 100 % North European women to marry. I picked a women of I Iberian ancestry. I just like the look better. It has nothing to do with thinking one race is better than the other. Some people think “Hispanics/Latinos” want to be white lol. Most of us like a little melanin. So us wanting to be “white” is not accurate. We claim our brothers and sisters in Portugal and Spain because of the connections to our blood, language, culture, religion, etc. not because we want to be “white” or even need anything from Europe. I do very well in America.
@@XxAlexanderProxx Nothing personal, but the Portuguese aren't your brothers, sorry. Different language, blood, culture. The Portuguese aren't mestozos. To me, mexicans and people of that nature are foreigners like other foreigners, that I don't really have anything against nor care for.
i think portuguese ppl are lusitanos, not hispanic or latino, even that we speak latin language we are not latinos but lusitanos instead. Portugal have a lot of mixed races so its so hard to define us. So we are lusitanos and that's it!
Portuguese people today pray to Roman Latino Catholic Jesus as Latinos do or to Great Mother Nature like lusitanos used to?
lusitanos are a subset of greater Hispania.
So the right term is not "latino" but "latin-americans". Latino is supouse to be a romance word to refere a latin (related to Rome) origem thing. A latino can be an latin-european or an latin-american so if you are portuguese or french of course you are not a latin-american, becouse you are not american but european.
Portuguese people are Iberian, as are most of Spaniards, the two countries are different, have different language and even culture.. But they look alike in every way. Latinos are people from the America's, they might at some point in history been colonies of these two, but are something completely different
Latino literally means people from Latium which is in Italy! I'm sorry latinos are from Europe
The word Latino, is not a race. Portugal, Spain, Italy, France and Romania are part of the romance language, because our language derived from Lantin . Latinos was used to define people who are from South America of Spanish speaking language countries. Brazilians however never define themselves as Latinos. Brazil was settled with people from Portugal, Africa, Philippines, Japan and other countries, as for the rest of South America they were mostly settled with people from Spain.
Finally someone smart
Mexico is in South America?
Brazil has never received people from the Philippines LOl ...
The other countries in South and Central America also received people from Africa; Spaniards have always been a minority in most countries, they are mostly mestizos, almost no women from Spain came to the colonies in America
Portuguese people are Hispanic. The Iberian Peninsula- Portugal and Spain was called Hispana by the Romans. We share a blood line and a language.
I think everyone is confused with what Latino means. Look, we also have a huge amount of Arabic. Everyone remembers the Roman’s, but no one remembers the Moors.
Read the Forgotten Portuguese by Manuel Mira
What does it say?
@@docdave1994 too much to explain here. It talks about the history of Portuguese in America and how they were not accepted into white schools, not able to vote or own land... not until they assimilated to white Americans were they accepted. Best to read
@@lindsaywatkis6328 that's not unlike Scandinavians, Irish, Germans, Italians, French. But that doesn't say anything about whether the Portuguese are Latinos or not.
I’m portuguese I identify as Hispanic because really the only thing stopping us from being full Hispanic is our language genetically and ethnically were Hispanic but based off language we’re not but because of our ancestry we’re hispanic
do you consider yourself a white hispanic?
@@reynical3083 because I’m light brown I won’t call myself white so no I’m just Hispanic but most Portuguese people just call themselves white but I am apart of the 10% that identifies as Hispanic
@@GBG._.Spooky the reason i asked is because my bestfriend is portuguese and he's really tan but he and his whole family identify as white and that suprised me
@@reynical3083 a lot of Portuguese people are that way that’s why u never assume a Portuguese person identifies as Hispanic always ask first
@@GBG._.Spooky im german i accept him as white its the other brown kids who refuse to belive he's white he's really educated me
we are Lusitans not Latino neither Hispanic
Very true
Portuguese is a latin language
@Nome próprio Portuguese people are European pure
Stupid as fuck
We are Latino
People like u are ignorant as hell
Doc Dave Portuguese are mixed
Why my Scandinavian ass is watching this is a mystery like
you could perhaps admit to be part of the chronology depicted as egnastia as many had to become. it is a difficult semetic question and commend your confidence to explain, i look forward for more people like yourself to confront semetic questions. i was unsure as to the extent of the portugues time period involving egnastia.
In Portugal, we have lot of origins :Iberic, Romans, lusitania, celts and even nordic for the north. But because of our language as Spanish and Italian we called ourself latino. French in fact are also Latinos but in reality we don't consider french people as latino because to be latino is more cultural than anything. But for the love of God we're not Hispanic!!!!! Portugal and Spain it's close but in fact it's totally different
@@torrezno1990 amen!
That's really interesting to hear the French can be considered Latino
So wtf are we?😭
Well, what are you?
Doc Dave Portuguese
@@luna-ks3xz There you go then. Portuguese, Caucasian, European, white. Leave that Latino/Hispanic denomination for mexicans and their associates
criolos south ameriandians
Latino
Calling people from south of the border "latino" is the same as saying there are two types of "Indians" "American Indian" & "Asian Indian" False...
I’m a quarter Portuguese I’m German Dutch then a quarter Portuguese my dad’s Portuguese my moms half German half Dutch
To my portuguese peolpe: We are fucking Lusitanos!
Lusitanos e latinos.
In the American definition? Nope lol.
The Roman name for the geographical Province of Hispania is purely geographical, nothing to do with ethnicity since the people who populated the peninsula were all different tribes
So where do I fall? I'm a Heinze 57 of ethnicity. I'm southern Italian, Portuguese, Hispaña, Albanian Greek... But I'm truly not Caucasian, only the American census would put me in that category. Don't get me wrong The small percentage of my white side is French English and Scottish... But seriously where do I fit in? I fly the Italian in Portuguese flag all the time at my house, at my campsite, But regular Americans can't comprehend what Portugal is.
But italy and portugal are white european countries? You are white ma'am, you are of european descent and speak a european language if u like it or not
The term Hispanic is mostly used in America to refer to people of Latin America. Latino can be anyone of a latin speaking country from the originators of Latin Europe and it's colonies. There would NOT be Latinos in the Americas without the Spanish and Portuguese or the French the latin people of Europe. It is not uncommon to hear a Spanish, or Portuguese ,French or Italian person say that are latino but never hear them say Hispanic. Also the European Latino is racially different from the latin American who for the most part are mixed but can be any race.
If Brazilians are Latinos bc they are from a country founded by Portugal which is a romance speaking country , then it's fair to say that Brasilians are Portuguese too, right?
@@docdave1994 No, because being Portuguese and Brazilian are two different nationalities. Both are latino. Mexicans and Spanish are two different nationalities both are latino. However, Spain and Portugal, just like France and Italy are just latin. Portuguese and Spanish speaking countries in the Americas are latin American, or latino Americano. The name itself latin American is referencing that there's other latin people outside of the Americas. Where do you think the term latin or latino originated?
@@SilVia-hs2kb Your definition of "latino" is based on a class of languages that share Latin as a common ancestor, and also use it as an ethnic term. A family of language doesn't change culture, race, and history.
@@docdave1994 In Europe groupings of countries are divided by, shared DNA and common Ancestry, culture, language and history not just by countries. Europe has many countries divided into different groupings, The Balkans, The Saxons, The Anglo, The Anglo Saxons, The latin , The Nordic, The Slavic, etc...again, WHERE DO YOU THINK THE TERM LATIN OR LATINO CAME FROM?
@@docdave1994 I'll answer it for you, the term latino and latin came from the Spanish and the Portuguese when they were colonizing their part of the Americas. To be distinguished from the English aka Anglo or Anglo Saxon that were colonizing the northern part of the Americas. Wasn't that hard was it?? History doesn't care abut your feelings or your point of view. It is what it is.
I come from portugal i just want to know IF IM LATINO!!:) YES OR NO
Paris Michouis yes
Yeas
Paris Michouis Portuguese and Spaniard are the same race
Same dna
No different
We only have different nationality
Latino mean u come from Latin culture
U my brother are Latino
Be proud
According to this guy roman speakers and European not latino. Which i think is wrong
Daniel Coronado yes bro this man is a racist
My family is from Portugal
The word Latino
Means defendant of Latin culture
Portuguese are super Latino
Spain is super Latino
This guy is lame
Portugal Brazil Angola and other countries speak Portuguese not Spanish. So we're not Latino
Latino = someone that speaks from Latin language, Latino is ITALIA SPAIN/PORTUGAL
@@Made0nEarth Your comment is very Euro-centric. "Latino" is understood as an ethnicity, and LatinoAMERICANOS have a different ethnicity than Europeans even though they speak a romance language.
@@docdave1994 America (English) Latin America (Portuguese/Spanish) Latino is not a race they are all Portuguese and Spanish people mixed with African slaves but in the end they all speak LATIN so we call them Latinos.
@@Made0nEarth "Latino" is the demonym of the geopolitical term Latin-America coined to designate the part of the Americas who didn't speak English. Europe and Europeans are out of the picture. FYI, Latin isn't spoken anymore.
@@docdave1994 Latin is the base of Italian Portuguese and Spanish thats why this 3 languages are very similar and yes it is spoken every day.
I never been to South America, I know nothing about their culture for me só I don’t consider myself either hispanic or Latino. Portuguese descendants are called luso and that’s what we identify yourselves with
Portuguese and brazilians are both luso bc they descend from thus group,but Brazil is super diverse,mot ppl are lusitanians but there are also blacks,asians and germanics in brazil,both are latinos bc they speak a latin language
E o que são os brasileiros?
@Caio Hansen É latinoamericano. Não gosto desses termos que os estadounidenses ficam usando pra tentar "diminuir" outros povos mas... Acho que é até daora ter alguma coisa pra identificar com um grupo, no caso os outros latinoamericanos. (Não somos hispânicos, claro)
Sulamericanos
as someone from both latin america, and also latin europe, I think the term latino makes more sense for european people like spanish italians or portuguese, because almost all of america is latin, and the 2 main non-latin countries both have around 20% latin population (hispanics in the US, Quebec in Canada), so basically, America is latin, and anglo-americans are a minority, but Europe is not latin, it is much more diverse, and latin europeans are very distinct and different from germanics or slavs
I think we should forget our differences, and work together, as we are a big family with a lot of potential that's being divided by politics that isn't even our own, like the politics of the US census and stuff like that
Wrong, very wrong question. Never ask a Portuguese person if they think of themselves as Hispanics. We are Portuguese Lusitanos and Celtic in the north. If you want to offend Portuguese people quickly call them Hispanic.
You are latino. No Hispanic. Portuguese derived from the Latin. Therefore....you....my highness ... are LATINA too.
The meaning have been distorted through the years so now everybody thinks Latinos are just salsa dancing people.
@@MilodeScorpio 😉😉 love the your highness!! I know I'm a hotblooded latina, I was just saying I not Hispanic. Portugal is much older then spain there for we are not Hispanic. Anyway Portuguese and Spanish are like brother's that fight all the time is our thing lol
@@veracorreia4579 I just realized you never said anything about not being Latina . What an asshole
@@MilodeScorpio Don't confuse Latino with Romance language speaker. Latino is the short for LATINOamerican, Portugal is in Europe.
@@veracorreia4579 Portugal and Spain are not enemies nor brothers. They are neighbors, nothing more nothing less.
Hispanic? Roman times. Latinos, mmmh not wrong, since we speak a language based on Latin. But we are lusitanian. We were here when the Romans invaded. If for you Latino derives from speaking a Latin language don't forget Romania. Portugal, Spain, Italy, France and Romania are Latin speaking country's. Calling Mexicans Latinos is a joke, at least for us europeans.
@@jeffreyecheverria355 lusitanian.
Confusing Ok if your italian are you latino ?
Daniel Coronado it depends what is for you a latino
Daniel Coronado based on the term Latino u can say italians are the most latino people across the world becouse latium is the region where Rome is situated
Yes.
I count myself Latina...
its all about what u call yourself man u can say u are white or latino or lusitano or hispanic its what u choose
As Portuguese i can say neither
Orionte9 Could I ask what you guys are? Like are you white or something else?
@@oatmeal7563 of course you can. The most of us are white.
J. Smith wiki isn’t that reliable.
Orionte9 I know many Spanish people don’t consider themselves white, I know Portuguese and Spanish language and cultures are very similar. I’ve heard a few Portuguese people refer to themselves as latin, and all the Spanish people I’ve met call themselves Hispanic. In your opinion does it make sense for Spanish people to call themselves Hispanic. Like people from Spain, is Hispanic the right word for them?
Personally I know throughout my (very large) family we don’t consider ourselves white, latino, or hispanic. I view Portuguese as there own cultural group ( just my opinion) so if anything ever asks for my race I say other 🤷♀️
I am Portuguese from both sides of my family we are considered European 🇵🇹
Somos latinos.
Talking too slow. Stop trying to drag it out. I had to speed it up 1.75x just so you sounded like a normal human.
There are 100,000 Portuguese living in Spain. Portuguese represent 13% of Andorra's population. Portuguese people love hispanic/Spanish culture. We are siblings. I'm Argentinian of Italian and Galician/Spanish descent
You see, the difference is that hispanics love and feel flattered to claim the Portuguese as hispanics, but the Portuguese take offense at being called hispanics and want nothing to do with that term.
@@docdave1994 we have same or similar surnames/names
Doc Dave hispanic or iberian is only a word to relate the evolution of the vulgar latin in that region called from the romans "hispania" in which the modern portugal was included so yes you speak an Hispanic Language and ethnically you are Spaniards even if u don't want to be called like this. And no,lusitans do not exist anymore since 1500 years, your dna confirms it
Portuguese people dislike spanish culture
@@torrezno1990 Not to be disrespectful as I don’t know who I am arguing with on the internet, you could be a child for all I know, in that case you should not be on the internet talking to strangers and this message is not meant for you.
If you are not then I just want to say that you are everywhere and so obsessed with Portuguese people. Your even prejudice against Galician Spaniards . Your not even watching these videos for educational purposes but just to be condescending. Spanish women??? Majority of the time Portuguese men aren’t talking about women from Spain, if they want something different they usually marry Brazilian or Cape Verdean women or Angolan or even German.
Arrogance and delusions. Get off the internet for a day. Portuguese and Spaniards are the exact same, stop being prejudice.
A nossa raiz é celtibera
@Rafael Fernandes o que é que os nórdicos têm a ver com os celtas? Ou com os iberos?
Borges is a Hispanic surname. Spanish/portuguese
Confundido Germanicos com Celtas,o norte e a galiza foram colonizados por celtas puros sem mistura,o centro ficaram os celtiberos e no sul os iberos que rapidamente foram dominados por gregos,fenicios,cartagineses,etc...
Na realidade eu acho que a tribo pai dos portugueses e galegos são os Galaeci que povoaram á Galiza e o norte do Douro .Eles eram celtas sem mistura com iberos.Apesar de romanizados mantiveram a cultura e várias palavras celtas.Ao contrario do sul da iberia que as palavras celtas são inexistentes ou raras.
Não para mais porque Galiza,Norte do Douro,Bretanha,Irlanda,Escocia e Pais de gales sejam culturalmente celtas.
No sorry but the dna of portuguese people is more close to italic dna than celtic. And it is proved that many portuguese scientist covered up the dna ressources about your ethnicity and the results showed a strong NORTHERN AFRICAN/BERBER presence in the region of Algarve. Im sorry if I disappoint you
@@giovannipigliacampo4849 Thanks for your opinion!
Latino or Hispanic is NOT A RACE ITS A LATIN CULTURE SMH.... There is Latin Europa & Latin America. There is nothing to due with RACE or SKIN COLOR to be Latino or Hispanic. True Hispanics are from the Iberia witch are Portugal & Espana. The problem in America is when you apply for a job etcc. You have to put down either 4 things white , black , Latino or Hispanic ( witch is not a race ) or Asian. Also can put down OTHER. people are brain wasted over the years. thinking Latino or Hispanic is a race Confusing people. Stating that if you speak Spanish only you can put down Latino or Hispanic. People automatically think its a race when its a culture. Not going to get into detail. Would be to much to list. But, You can be a Latino or Hispanic by DNA , Latin based cultures ( romance languages ). Etcc .
Hispanic isn't a race. That said European, African, White, Asian neither are races. In reality they are euphemisms, ways to talk about race without coming across as to assertive (racist?). When people use "Hispanic" as a race they mean "mestizo", since the vast majority of Hispanics are mestizo. In regards to Latino as a culture, I think the connection to ancient Latin is just a attempt at an ego boost, because Latin America has little to do with Ancient Rome. Latin America is a geopolitical concept referring to part of the Western hemisphere colonized by Portugal or Spain, and all that involves such a greater indigenous population, greater miscigenation in DNA and culture.
Answer: Neither
Educate yourself please
We're European latinos
@@user-rc4mj6pm2d If you’re talking about the general usage of Latino (Latin American, from Latin America) the Portuguese aren’t “Latino”. That’s the general understanding in America so if you came over here claiming Latino you’d get laughed at
@Jerry Valderramos Dude, no one wants to be latino, not even latrinos.
I'm from Portuguese stock myself and I consider myself Latino wer all Latin kings.
Brazilian, you're not Portuguese
@@docdave1994 my family are all from Portugal
@@viper174471 You're brazilian, dude. Real Portuguese aren't brazilian, nor latinos.
@@docdave1994 fella yes Ian Portugués and look up the meaning of the word Latin the word is from Europe
@@viper174471 The word is from Europe, that doesn't change most Latin Americans' genetics and culture, and they aren't European.
Lusitanos
Portuguese people are white Europeans. Nothing to do with Hispanics or Latinos.
Also accepted is Lusitanos.
Were the ancient Lusitanians latinos ? No therefore Portuguese are not Latinos
Do Sicilian people consider themselves as hispanic after so many years of domination by Spain? No!!! Portuguese speaking countries(lusophones) are not hispanic
Gustavo Matias Hispanic is a term refering to the roman province of Hispania in which portugal was included so the variations of vulgar latin evolved from this region are called "hispanic". Noone is calling you a spanish, it is only an old word refering to your language seen from the roman eyes
But you can also call it Iberian
The word lusitano comes from the people existed in the north of portugal before the conquest of the romans and these Peoples do not exist anymore. Portuguise have more latin(italic) dna ancestry than celtic ahahaha even if you won't admit it
@@giovannipigliacampo4849 before you spread your ass talking about the language of the lusitano people i must inform you that the base of Portuguese language got its meanings and similarities to Hittite or hurrian languages of the past that are extinct second to the experts but not it is alive and very well represented by Portuguese language today ,. if you compare some meaning Portuguese words with Italian ones it does not make any connection at all it is completely not related in meaning so just for that , Portuguese is more close to a Semitic language than to Latin itself
@@danythrinbell1596 omg😂😂😂😂😂 u are free to believe that portuguise is more semitic than latin. I don’t want to discuss with such ignorant people expecially when they are so close minded.
@@giovannipigliacampo4849 , i'm sorry i have a latin name but my shit is pure lusitanian , getting a latinio name does not make my shit from du lacium
I'm latino and portuguese people are not latinos, it's common sense, they have similar languages and culture, but not Latinos, here in Toronto they speak to me in Portuguese because i understand them very well and I speak to them in Spanish.
Portugal is Latin
@@lefty9663 you ask them, they'll think latinos from the Americas not from Southern Europe, they prefer to be called by their nationality
@@TheLazyEntrepreneur04 you will never hear Portuguese or Italians latino, that's just the reality, plus latino is also used as a short term for latin american. the truth is mostly people around the globe sees latinos as people from the Americas, but yes Portuguese are technically latin
@@ericktwelve11 Latino literally means people from LATIUM which is in ITALY. No matter what americans think
@@F.Picknaipa good for them
we are latinos.
not latino-americans but latino-europeans, like Spain, and Italy.
No we are not Latinos or Hispanic. Portugal and Spain originally separated 900 years ago.
Spain is only 500yo. When portugal became an independent kingdom in 1143 there was no "spain"
I am Portuguese, I consider myself Latino. But with HUGE roots from the Lusitanos, so I am a LUSO-LATINO.
I can say that me and many other friends of mine, we consider ourselfes LUSO-LATINO, and no, we dont consider South Americans, Latinos. We call them mostly Mesticos (mixed).
Sim mas é mais difícil sofrermos racismo que latinos doutros paises
@@Utilizador-gs3lx Sim, talvez. Apesar de achar ridículo, um Americano racista! Imagina a ironia.
@@salazarway Na América é onde há mais racismo
@@Utilizador-gs3lx Há, para brancos com pretos, pretos com brancos, asiáticos com pretos, brancos com asiáticos, bla bla bla... A realidade é a ironia de um povo que não tem raízes naquela terra serem racistas. Mas não nos podemos esquecer que os USA é um país que sofre de desinformação e falta de conhecimento global. Muito típico de um imperio, porque o é.
@@salazarway USA é um país que tem muito falta de conechimento global.
Latin América:
Argentina
Bolívia
Canadá Quebec
Chile
Brasil
Colômbia
Costa rica
México
Peru
Panamá
Porto rico
Uruguay
Venezuela
Etc...
Latin europeu:
Andorra
Italy
France
Portugal
Mônaco
Moldova
România
San marino
Spain
Vatican
Todos que tem a linguagem derivada do Latin ( espanhol, portuguese, italiano e francês) são latinos, mas vocês são latinos e lusitano.
Are you a proud boy?
Why would he not feel proud of who he is?
@@lusitanosdomundo lol it was just a joke! Look up the "proud boys" here in the U.S. They're a right wing group who wear yellow and black Perry's!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@longliveavalon and...
@@masnwrdl0511 And what what?
@@longliveavalon why did you ask lol.
I have read on paper work before that " luso-American" is what I should define as, but that is not typically and normally on paperwork. They do not acknowledge us on the whole of it. We are not Caucasian, we are not Latino, but we ARE something, and our language is worldwide, especially because of Brazil.
NOOOOO
Brazilian, Mexican, ... = Latino
Portuguese, Spanish = White
BUM BUUM que?!?!?😡
Actually Spanish people are Hispanic. It’s Portuguese that people are still having trouble figuring out.
@@oatmeal7563 : YOU ARE CRAZY!
B*TCH GO FKUC YOURSELF
😤😤😤😤
@@bumbuum8071 Don't mind her, she's a self-hating latina.
I am a portuguese and my I am not White I am a little darker so like light brown an spanish people too so and the thing is if the portuguese and spanish people didn’t discover Brazilian... there would be no latinos and the word latino came before Brazilian... so I would say that portuguese and Spanish people are latinos too
I’m Portuguese and Italian
Then Not Latino.
i'm not portuguese not italian not romano i'm a pure lusitanian , native to iberian peninsula far away as 5000 years call me latino if it makes you have a orgasm
@@1vespa are you dumb?
We are Celts Lusitanian Galleacians...not really Latinos
I'm portuguese. I consider myself an iberian and an european.
I’m Portuguese and I consider myself latin.
Dealing with large numbers of Mexicans, Colombians, Salvadoreans for period of time would make you reconsider your statement.
@@docdave1994 mexicans, colombians are NOT latinos
@@F.Picknaipa What are they?
@@docdave1994 americanos. Latino literally means people from LATIUM which is in Italy, Europe
@@F.Picknaipa dumb statement
We are white
@Raye Dominique One can be Swedish and black as well.
@Raye Dominique so on college stuff u can also say Hispanic right?
No youre not.
We are not white we are caucasian thats the right designation, white is milk and the clouds and some brains...
@@look2christ777 You're right, Portuguese people aren't White but mexicans look like vikings, don't they?
Hispanics no, latin maybe considering the language
We are Lusitanos. Celts.
I'll make it easy for you, portuguese are Arab people with the desire to be recognize a Europeans.
Haha juanito gonzalez you got busted!
Well in theory if you talked about the portuguese and Spanish people south of tagus river yess
Portuguese are +60% celtic!
And you are Mongolian for sure, pretending to be someone else!
Oh my god! A genius has born! Portuguese are lusitanos not latinos or arabs ( the arabs ocupied only the south of the coutry). But the portuguese are one of the oldest countries with defined borders in the world(more than 900 years of history as a country) we are Europeans of full right. 😔 please read some history books...we colonized and discoverd parts of the called new world, we had ocupied parts of África and our influence went even to asia where were traders and we colonized by miscellanea so the portuguese decendants in the so called at the time ( please contextualize) new world should be called portuguese decendant or lusitanians...but please the words latino and hispanic aren't more than noncence a rude way of describing ancestry... most of the ones you call latinos are from countries ocupied by spain as well as hispanic so the same ocupier diferent designations? That sounds to me as historical racism i think that it was said for so long that people really think that they describe ancestry... but thats what i think...
I think Nordics would think of you as latino.
Don't be butthurt, accept your indigenous ancestry and stop pushing it into others.
@@truth.beauty.and.goodness I not only accept, but embrace mine. I do not accept what's not mine, Amerindian in this case. First off, if you think all Scandinians are blue eyed blonds, you should google the Sami people, you might learn a thing or 2. You're not Scandinivian, nor European yourself so you need to stop putting words in other people's mouths. You sound unhappy and that makes you irrational, Nordic White supremacist statments inside your mestiço Latina's mouth don't make you sound very smart. See, I'm not from Latin America, I don't speak spanish, I have no Amerindian ancestry. Nothing's wrong with all those things. I just do not want them called upon me because I have nothing to do with any of them. The confusion comes from the fact that you're from a culture based on racial hierarchy where mestiços view themselves as White Europeans and look down upon more Indigenous looking folks and their ways. When Europeans distance temselves, they rejected, hurt, and defensive like you just did. Different cultures and phenotypes exist, that's a fact, but difference doesn't mean hierarchy.
@@docdave1994 who the heck said I was from Latin America? I'm Spaniard, but I consider myself latina, because well.. I am. It would be stupid to say I wasn't. I live in the US and I find I have more in common with Latinos than Nordics, not that I have anything against them. You, my dear sir, sound very much angry and butthurt that people confuse you with a fellow Latin person. If you are the guy in the video, you even had to make a video about it. Good day.
@@truth.beauty.and.goodness 'Spaniard born and raised in Spain? Of course I am angry being confused for latino, I am not one. Do you like being called mexican. You claim being spaniards,and feeling close to latinos, you may have your reasons for it. However, most spaniards from Spain do not like being called "latinos", or even "hispanics" in the US. You must be an exception then.
@@docdave1994 RACIST
We are latinos.
All my life I was told we have spanish ancestry. Took a dna test n it turns out to be portuguese. I feel so off
@@cruzgrind8161 I kno portuguese n spanish r basically the same ppl genetically. It's just culturally I feel a bit off bc they're still different cultures. I'm not saying there's anything wrong w me having portuguese blood. It's fine n I don't really care tbh. It's just not what I expected or connected myself too
The reason why the portuguese say they are lusitanics and not hispanic is for racism
Then why would any Hispanic call themselves Hispanic, if racism is the reason? The reason Portuguese people reject the hispanic label is because they do not identify with it and because they're not Hispanics. Them hispanics seem to be offended that the portuguese would not want to share their identity, and get some prestige thanks to it.
This is true so fucking true
I’m Portuguese and a proud Latino
Fuck all u racist idiots
Portuguese and Spain is the same race
Just different nationality
@@timohutchinson707 latino and hispanic are not the same thing. Ok, you're latino but not hispanic
Gui BJI what is the definition of Hispanic smart guy?
@@timohutchinson707 Spanish speaking-countries and Spanish culture
Lusitans
RG Productions oh my god another one
Lusitanos were the people situated in the north of Portugal before the conquest of Iberia by the Roman Empire. Nowadays the portuguise people have more italic and african dna than celtic. YOU ARE NOT lusitans anymore
No.
Neither of those lol.
Latino and Hispanic only exists in South America lol.
You clearly don't know much about europe.
Nope Hispanic exist in Spain as well as it is obvious 😂
@@LHollan No there's the term Hispania which is the latin name for iberia.
But there are only europeans in iberia.
Latino means people from LATIUM which is in ITALY
@@F.Picknaipa It doesn't. The term Latino doesn't exist back then. Also are there very few people from Italy in South America. Spanish and Portuguese don't have much Italian DNA.
@@duranium4445 eres idiota? La palabra latino existe desde hace más de 2000 años. La cultura latina es de ROMA!!!
Los latinos son nativos de Italia, te guste o no. Ellos conquistaron la península ibérica. Naciste en south America? Eres AMERINDIO. Los nativos de América son los ameridios. Los latinos NUNCA llegaron y latinizaron el continente americano. Los franceses utilizaron el término latinoamericano para los territorios americanos colonizados por los paises latinos.
We are portuguese, latinos or hispânicos are our fruit to the world, the first proto indo Europeans
All this is crazy my friend is from Brazil. And she speaks Portuguese... But she doesnt like to be called latino. Idk she likes to be called European.. Which is crazy cuz Brazil of course is in south America.
Maybe she doesn't like being called "latina" because the term has become a synonym for "Mexican, Central American" and refers to a constellation of characteristics she doesn't identify with, such as the spanish language, tacos etc Why would she identify with that?
Lusitanosdomundo Org Latino in the USA is described as a descendant of Latin culture
People are confused
And any Brazilian is Latino
Just like any Mexican
Or any other descendants of Latin culture
@@timohutchinson707 What's "Latin culture"?
Doc Dave what are you kidding me man
@@timohutchinson707 Please define it, I'm curious to read what you have to say.
This guy is a racist.
Portuguese and Spaniards are Latino. Spaniards are BOTH Hispanic and Latino. Hispanic is derived from Hispania, which means "land of the rabbits" and refers to anyone from Spain. It was the ancient name for Spain when the people from ancient Latium (from where the Latin people come) in Roman empire was occupying the Iberian peninsula. Portuguese are Lusitanos AND Latino. The thing is, the term Lusitano is not widely known of or used outside of Portuguese, unlike Hispanic, especially in the United States. The Spaniards themselves identify as Hispanos, and they are the original Hispanics.
People in Latin america are referred to as such PRECISELY because of Spain & Portugal and their conquest and colonization of the region. There is no difference in meaning between "Latino", with an O and the word Latin. Latin"O" is how the word Latin is said in Spain/Portugal. Anyone saying "Latino" only applies to Latin Americans shows their ignorance. Latino = Spanish & Portuguese for Latin. Central and South America are forever linked to the Iberian Penisula through hundreds of years of history, language, cultural affinities, religion, and genetics. The original Latin peoples are descended from the area now known as Italy. There is where the Latium people come from and the Roman empire had its start.
The Roman empire conquered and occupied everything around the Mediterranean and beyond including the Iberian Penninsula, the Romans "Latinized" the Iberians, bringing to them eventually the Roman catholic religion, their language, which evolved into their own languages. Some of their genetics and customs and culture. The Spaniards, Portuguese are second-generation Latin countries. When the Spanish and Portuguese became dominant, they began to explore and conquer like the Romans. The Spanish/Portuguese did the same thing in the Americas but on a much larger scaler and changing the genetic makeup of the continent.
Again, this man is a supremacist and a racist.
It's funny how you carefully omit to mention that the Americas were already populated at the time of EUropean visit, and those people already there had a culture of their own. Those people haven't been wiped out, unlike in North America, which is why the US and Canada were always a lot closer to Europe than Latin America. Those brown people, their descendants and their cultures are still around. I know Latin Americans are very racists and look down on whomever is more indigenous-looking than they are. But that's their problem, their passion. I think you're too stuck inside your West Coast Hispanic reality. You should travel to Europe, what I am saying will come into perspective. It won't be a pleasant surprise, but it will be an eye-opener, and a reality check for you.
We are hispanics because portugal was part of the kingdom of hispania easy as that
Portuguese people and Spaniards there are more like Romans or Arabs or gypsies Latin also is Latium that means the region of people where they spoke Latin when they have that in common in ancient times
Latinos are a mixed race, which is a mix of "(ANY)" other race with, italian, Spanish or Portuguese or french, which are a mix of different races themselves for example latin is a language not a European race, it is only a race outside these countries. Heres why...
Portuguese are a mix of Moors (persian race), Norse (Celtic/viking) which results in the race called (lusitanos) but the name comes from religious nonsense from the Norse celtic people which were dark religious people, thankfully as of 2001 portugal no longer identifies dark celtic religion as a Portuguese identity only historical tribal accolade for educational purposes but one northern district still practices its heritage.
The Italians are persian/caucasian.
The spanish are Norse (celtic)
(Non persian middle eastern) note persians were north African and Egyptian (africa), not middle eastern.
So the answer to that question is no! And no European country is of latin race because the latin race is a mix of Italian, spain, Portugal or french a mix with any other mix, if you are caucasian and have a kid with a french, spanish Portuguese or Italian, your kid is officially latin, ( latin caucasian) and that goes for any other mix from any place any race, it is a common misconception that latin races are solely south American when that's not true and the misconception comes from political crap, the first Latins started in Africa during and after colonisation of the Portuguese. Original Latins are from africa, specifically Cape verde which was one of the first places to be colonised by the Portuguese and in general, portugal was also the first to exploration and colonization which in terms of colonization is nothing to be proud of other than the fact that now all that is over and our great country can focus on showing what great culture and country Portugal is...
Latin is a language!
Portuguese Latin : south america/ africa/ Asia (china) (India) (Indonesia) Australasia/North America (USA) (Not canada)
Hispanic Latin (Spanish): south America / Asia.
French : africa / north america (canada)
So the factual answer to the question is no.
And please try to educate the canadians and USA that they are latins! They still think they are british, it's okay young country with only 300 yrs (APRX)
I'm glad I have settled the confusion.
Enjoy...
In my area of the USA we include Portuguese people with the Latino designation, but not Hispanic. This is not ubiquitous across the US, however.
What area is it ?
Pennsylvania! @@docdave1994
honestly idk when Portugal n Spain were together before it was called the Iberian Peninsula it was called Hispania. This doesn’t occur to me as I’m a Afro European With Latino Decendant. As my avó is Columbian.I believe that Portuguese are Hispanic
Portuguese people consider themselves as 'Portuguese'; You know, that small country in Europes western tip? The one with over 1000 years (considering the 1st County of Portugal)... The one with the oldest borders in the world? The first and long lasting global empire?
You see 'Latino' or 'Hispanic' associated with race; Latin is language... But then again, Portuguese has also other important parts, for example from germanic language. Our judicial system is based in the old Visigoth system (germanic), etc etc etc....
If you want a clear answer, racially wise: go research US Census documentation, which considers Portuguese as 'European Stock'/'white'. Only Spain isn't considered that way ;). Have fun... and remember: US CENSUS has the answer you are searching for ;)
Portugal is a latin country .
@@joaoteixeira7410 looks like speaking (or writing) english isn't the same as 'understanding' english :)
'Latinos' as referred in the post is not related to Language, but related to ethnicity, thats why I mentioned the US CENSUS. It's quite explicit there. We are Iberians (maybe not you).
Even if it was to be related to Language, then all Europeans (except for the Basques) would be Israeli/Jews because all European languages are semitic languages. Does it make sense to you now ?
@@nmarques7885 quero lá saber do teu blábláblá, Portugal é um país latino...
@@joaoteixeira7410 para ti talvez; tens o direito de pensares o que quiseres.
Engraçado como existe o termo Lusitânia do qual temos tanto orgulho, que até o utilizamos para nos descrever, 'Luso' por exemplo. Os heróis nacionais como Viriato. É tudo isso que faz de nós latinos ;) Não fosse tudo isso Celta/Ibero.
Ainda bem que o meu blablablá é coerente com o resto dos Portugueses. Pelo menos no norte e centro. Aí ao sul vive-se grande confusão. Pobres berberes!
Most people i know consider themselves lusitano and latino.
this is absurd
I get it Spanish/Hispanic culture is a bit different from Portuguese culture
But if we consider all Spanish speaking countries as Hispanic
Meaning that say Mexico and Columbia have the same exact cultural food then that would be wrong
I believe the Portuguese and there by extended to the Brazilians are Hispanic due to the fact that if you even take a dna test you can’t see the difference between Spanish and Portuguese dna
And side note people try to say lusitans or lusophones or something saying that only the Portuguese on the Iberian pennisula are directly descended from preceltic tribes
But that was over 2 thousand years ago and besides that another side note the moorish people invaded the Iberian peninsula to for over 700 years and people try to say that they didn’t mix with the locals
If you are one of those people listen to your self if you were with a group of people for hundreds of years you’re telling me you wouldn’t have just a few times mixed with each other
All I’m saying is Portuguese and Spanish or too similar and people don’t want the Portuguese to be ascosiated with the word Hispanic and neither do the Portuguese and if that’s the case
Then there should be a new word that includes all Portuguese and Spanish Culture including from Spain Portugal all or South America and the carribean excluding the French speaking countries Mozambique Andorra all of the Portuguese and Spanish speaking and culturaly connected countries should be included under the new word
Hisportic 😂
Come up with ideas in the comments please
Your comment relies on a feeling and mirrors a US-American perspective where Anglos tend to minimize the differences between exogroup and Hispanics tend to claim the Portuguese in an attempt aggrandizement complex and run away from their indigenous identity they're trying to downplay. The #1 criteria for being "Hispanic" is to be from or have ties to "spanish-speaking country", that alone disqualifies the Portuguese as Hispanic and makes any further only speculative. For a cultural perspective too "Hispanic" is a mixed bag, with heavy Amerindian influence in the Americas. DNA studies, even those commercial tests are able to discriminate between Portuguese and spanish, yet European population intermixed so much that the DNA overlaps a great deal. Being a cross cultural language, it's not specific culture nor ethnicity, you know a "one size fit all"type of approach is not going to work. There is no need to create a term since they already exist: Portugal, Portuguese, Lusophone. Anything else is only taking away from the Portuguese identity and will be rejected by Portuguese individuals.
Lusitanosdomundo Org
If a on size fits all approach isn’t going to work then why do we call all of South America Hispanic/Latino
They have different cultures some areas had more slaves some areas didn’t some areas had more natives some didn’t some areas had mixed more than others
They is no way people from Venezuela will look exactly like people from Mexico
The southern americas are very diverse and have many different look to people in each country and within each country
All I’m saying is if we include these Germanic sections in Europe and these Slavic sections in Europe why is it so crazy we include this Hispanic/Lusophone section ?
@@joshuaserrao4951 Latinos have in common Latin America as their home. Hispanics have in common the spanish language. Nothing more, nothing less. Like I've previously said, LatAm and European cultures are very different that's I think it's absurd to believe or expect that all Romance-language speakers to be culturally alike or similar. Since I can tell you're Hispanic yourself and you agree to state that Hispanics are very different from one another, them why lumping them together with Lusophones? Plus Lusophone massively reject the Hispanic label called upon them. How about. I'm fine with a Lusophone/Hispanic grouping as long as all are labeled as Lusophone.
Lusitanosdomundo Org
Ok I get where your coming
And you are right I am hispanic (Half Portuguese, Half Puerto Rican)
@@joshuaserrao4951 I see. Then your claims applies only to your own personal situation. A fully Portuguese person would never make the statements you make because it doesn't apply to them.
ARE WE SPANISH LATINO....... SPAIN NOPE EUROPEAN AND PROUD OF IT Lol 😆 yes from Europe BUT WHY HOLLYWOOD INSISTS TO REFER TO BENELOPE CRUZ AS LATINA IN CAPTAIN OF THE CARIBBEAN AND SO ON ? SHE IS AN EUROPEAN SPAIN 🇪🇸
Spanish are Hispanics and Portuguese are Hiportugic
and mexicans are beanspanics?
Spianish
Dislike,im latino
omg.. so many ignorance in this video... :\