Saying that Mexican/Latino/etc is a race/ethnicity is like saying American is a race. Just inconceivable. There is as much ( if not more ) racial diversity in Latin America as in the US. So yeah
Exactly! Latin is a cultural heritage,not a race. And hispanic is a language group,not a race too. Latins and hispanics can be from any ethnicity,white,black,native american,asian and etc. United States people need to understand that. And also,Quebec is a part of Latin America too. The ignorance of USA is just annoying!
People from latin america calls themselves "latino or hispanic" as a race to avoid the fact they actually of native american ancestors, many even considers themselves white! here a video: th-cam.com/video/p5r7k6LmkuI/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=RomanianGypsyJaneta
L C Lets face it these terms are made up Partially because americans are to lazy to know the difference between any of the “ latin american” countries. Partially its a way of saying those people over there who are different than us.
L C The Latins (Latin: Latini), sometimes known as the Latians, were an Italic tribe which included the early inhabitants of the city of Rome. From about 1000 BC, the Latins inhabited the small region known to the Romans as Old Latium (Latium Vetus), that is, the area between the river Tiber and the promontory of Mount Circeo 100 kilometres (62 mi) SE of Rome. The Latins were an Indo-European people who probably migrated into the Italian Peninsula during the late Bronze Age (1200-900 BC). Their language, Latin, belonged to the Italic branch of Indo-European. Their material culture, known as the Latial culture, was a distinctive subset of the Proto-Villanovan culture that appeared in parts of the Italian peninsula in the first half of the 12th century BC. The Latins maintained close culturo-religious relations until they were definitively united politically under Rome in 338 BC, and for centuries beyond. These included common festivals and religious sanctuaries. The rise of Rome as by far the most populous and powerful Latin state from c. 600 BC led to volatile relations with the other Latin states, which numbered about 14 in 500 BC. In the period of the Tarquin monarchy (c. 550-500 BC), it appears that Rome acquired political hegemony over the other states. After the fall of the Roman monarchy in c. 500 BC, there appears to have been a century of military alliance between Rome and the other Latins to confront the threat posed to all Latium by raiding by the surrounding Italic mountain-tribes, especially the Volsci and Aequi. This system progressively broke down after c. 390 BC, when Rome's aggressive expansionism led to conflict with other Latin states, both individually and collectively. In 341-338 BC, the Latin states jointly fought the Latin War against Rome in a final attempt to preserve their independence. The war resulted in 338 BC in a decisive Roman victory. The other Latin states were either annexed or permanently subjugated to Rome.
The “Latino” concept only has relevance in the US. Here in actual Latin America it makes no sense! We divide ourselves more in countries or by being part of an indigenous nation. I’m Chilean, my heritage is European (Spaniard and Italian mostly), but in Chile is not that big of a deal. The American concept of race is a bit strange for us.
RIght?! lol I'm brazilian and I consider myself white AND latin because I have italian and portuguese ancestry. And I still would do so if I had spanish ancestry... It just doesn't make any sense to have to choose one...
I may be wrong (I’m from the UK) but I don’t think Spain regard themselves as Latino either. They’re just European (Southern European or Mediterranean).
@@22Jeffers no but if you live in latin countries you're considered a latino regardless of your ancestry. it's like how if you live in america you're american regardless of race or ethnicity
Really interesting! I’ve always used theses labels without really thinking about what they mean. I guess Mestizo is the best description for me. Being Colombian I always was aware that my Abuela was amerindia (Panche) but living in the US has made me kinda adopt these imperfect terminologies. Thanks for the video.
Siempre me ha parecido muy simplista la forma en la que desde Estados Unidos se pinto con brocha gorda todo el resto del continente. Y los nacionales de estos países nos comimos el cuento entero.
Many people I know consider Mexican a race. They're boggled when I point out they're not. My general knowledge of the southern America makes it extremely difficult to say Mexican is race.
The easiest way to explain it to those people is just to point out that "Mexicans" weren't a race that existed on it's own like white, black, asian, native american etc. Just that they're mostly a mixuture of white and native american. Mix of two races, not one
I should also point out that term, Latin (Latino), refers to the Romance peoples of Europe (French, Spanish, Portugese, Italians, etc). Latin AMERICANS (Latinos Americanos) refers to the people in Central and South America who speak a Latin language.
@@toasterpastries5811 Quebec speak french (Canadá) Aruba, Suriman, Guyana Jamaica. They all central, North and South America. Latinoamerica don't not exist.
You are absolutely right. I've been preaching what you just said here for many years. Most of us in USA are very ignorant about this subject, I blame our school system
It's not convenient for the school system to teach all of us history. Like when they took 55 of mexico, us army killed native Americans if California that were assimilated into Hispanic culture, or that the first European to settle in what is today 55 of us were Spaniards that later became Mexican citizens among native of mexico, mixed....
@@liliacreativity1751 The US school system focuses a lot on the errors of American history. I don’t get your point. Learning about the californios is pointless. It’s is insignificant in the grand scheme of US history. There’s alot to cover. In Texas they teach about tejanos so California probably does too when they get to California state history. The school system mainly prioritizes important thing like the revolutionary, Civil, and 2 world wars
Hispanic is made up--it's an American myth. No one outside of the US calls me or refers to me as "Hispanic." I've lived both in Europe and Asia, and all was asked on my applications, was my nationality! As far as Latin/o/a is concerned, that's another term I was rarely called or referred to outside of the US. Just wanted to share my overseas culture shock experience with fellow Masaman fans.
Europe's history have been a succession of rivalries and clashes between feudal kingdoms, later nation-states (or between religions). So people tend to identify as british, german, spanish, french, russian, etc. far more than racially/ethnically. It is especially true in western Europe (never tell a walloon that he's french, especially after football World cup).
The majority of my ancestry is from both Portugal and Spain, mostly the Canary Islands (my great grandma was from there), Galicia, and Azores so I'm majority Latino but also Slavic and Celtic too as I have Slovak, Irish, British, and Polish ancestry. And a little bit of Guinean and Native American ancestry too. It's fascinating to dig deep and learn more about Latin America and why people think Latino is a race, even though it's not but rather a mix of two or more
@BELIZEAN BANG Once again, didn't say it was. All I said is Latinos are a mix of races and not one race. I think you're misinterpreting me. I never said Latino is a race. Majority of Latinos are mixed white, Native American, African etc but they're classified as Hispanic/Latino because of what language they speak. The only category we should be classified as is Mixed because that’s what we are, a mix of races not the so called “Latino race”
You are not a Latino. First of all Latino is wrong in English and secondly Latin is not your "native" heritage. Latin is the cultural heritage of the Italians and of the Latin Europeans.
@@renatomacchi2195 I agree with you. Greek-Roman culture defines our core values. Christianity, mostly Catholics, molded those values (I'm an atheist, btw). If anything, England and all of its colonies are a subset of Western culture, nor the the defining one.
And then Hispania was conquered by the Moors and was renamed Al-Andalus (which currently Spain has adopted that name to refer to the southern region of Spain as "Andalucia" since that's where the main stronghold of Islamic rule was located). In fact much of what is considered Spanish culture was introduced by the Moors and their nearly 800 year rule then adopted and adapted by conquering Visgoths
@@incasolja1 yes and no, what I mean is that there is Arabic influence in Spain and Portugal, especially in the south, but it is not the main influence in Spanish culture. In fact, the main influence in Spanish culture is Roman.
Javier DiFrancisco and even the term Al-Andalus was an imperfect arabization of the Germanic tribes known as the Vandals hence “the vandals” in moorish Arabic “al Andalus”
Interesting, I'm from Argentina, and I have always considered Quebec, Haiti and French Guyana part of Latino America.To me, if you were born in the American continent and your native language is part of the Latin family, you are Latino.
It's not just about being born in the American continent though bc it's a cultural label with connections to Latin Europe. It doesn't make sense that Latin Americans would be culturally Latino but Latin Europeans would not. That's where Latin cultures come from! Italy! U.S. has brainwashed people with the word Latino
@@delgi9551 Latino is a contraction of the term "Latino American". This is why it wouldn't include Europe. It also excludes the countries above Mexico in latitude. Latino refers to people from a specific geographical region whose languages are of the romance language family or whose lexicon is primarily derived from romance languages.
@@MisyeDiVre it still makes no sense, spanish frencha nd italians are more latino than us, but since the us has stolen the "american" name for themselves despite being anglos, we come into troubles.
@@MisyeDiVre You cannot shorten Latin American and make it Latino apart from the fact that saying "Latino" when you should say "LATIN" in English is disrespectful. Latin is the language spoken by the Romans and their culture and this is not debatable. You are Mestizo-Indians.
Hi Masaman, i've some suggestions for the future Who were the Lusitanians? Kristang people Genetics of Koreans Are Koreans related to native Siberians? Are Japaneses or Ryukyuans related to Austronesians? Are Turks, Japaneses, Koreans related? Are Dravidians related to native Aussies? Are Visayans related to present day Indonesian people?
Visayans are as related to indonesians as much as all native filipino groups do. the visayan branch, as a whole, of the philippine language family is even equal sister branches to tagalog dialects and bicol languages
Interesting discussion. I was born and raised in Brazil from a Japanese descent family. Right now, I am a US citizen and I always find amusing to fill out surveys about my race which is very constant here in US. We don't do that in Brazil when we go see doctors or look for jobs. I always identify myself as Asian, because biologically (genetically), I am 100% Japanese (as per genetic test). However, culturally, I would say that I am around 80% Brazilian and therefore, Latino. As a rule, when I fill out surveys here, I think they are asking me about my genetics and not my culture and I answer accordingly. I feel that those surveys are not helpful and descriptive of who I am. Also, I immigrate here with my husband who is Russian. You will never guess this from looking at any survey that I filled out.
As I said Husband is Russian. I just feel it is irrelevant to fill surveys and questions in US, because it doesn't tell who I am at all in just one box.
@@marinsanchez9587 not exactly, If it is paper based, there are all the options above and you can check as many boxes you want, but not as a subcategory to Latino/Hispanic. It is listed as the subcategory of being American, not Latino/Hispanic. Now, if you are filling online, then you have to chose one of those or if you have more than one background, you can chose others sometimes. Nowadays, everything is online. So, I can only choose one and I normally go with my biological background and not with my cultural one. Although, either way, it would be correct about me.
Latino is an invented word by Napoleon III when he conquered Mexico in order to eliminate any Spanish relationship. The historic and accurate description is Hispanoamerica and Hispanos. That works for the Iberians(portugal, Spain) because Hispania was the name of the Peninsula when first the Romans and after Visigoths unify and give clear borders, rules and religion. And Hispanoamerica are the descendants of this culture, Hispanic/Iberian culture not latin(latio Italy)
Napoleon III brought the term "Latin America" and, consequentially, "Latin American". "Latino" and "Hispanic" are American inventions. The difference is relevant, because while "Latin American" is more easily understood as the national of a Latin American country, "Latino" is a vague concept referring to race, ethnicity, nationality, culture and language all at once.
@luis peñafiel palmer I got your point and recognize the common history, but as a Brazilian I don't see the word Hispanic in good terms as it surpasses my Lusitanian heritage.
But the cultural connection is still there. Latin is what made Spain Espana or Hispania what it is bc the Italians (Romans) Latinized or Romanized the Iberian Peninsula, who then not only Hispanicized, but Latinized the Americas. Hence, the cultural similarities and core elements between Latin Americans and Latin Europeans
Imagine being from a small town founded by French, Swiss and Piedmontese in Argentina and having an American on the internet call you Mexican / eat tacos
@@JoseRojas-ns1dp well you described ethnically to Argentina better than I could have done, that without a doubt. Of all good part of that internal migration was destined to Buenos Aires
Elfaztmashin - ay pobrecito! Al alemán, rubio de ojos azul celeste ¡le dijeron mexicano! ¡Qué horror...vaya ofensa! Denle algo para el dolor, por favor, que no hay pesar más grande en este mundo que ser llamado mexicano. Toma un té de manzanilla para que puedas calmarte del gran dolor del cual has sido víctima al ser llamado mexicano. Pobrecito, pobrecito.
@@alvarofavela2918 pobrecito nada amigo, si te gusta que te amontonen y generalizen contigo allá tu, pero somos todos los países latinoamericanos diferentes desde california hasta el el cono sur, y eso de los apodos la verdad en mi vida toque un taco.
Interesting indeed, what language did the founders of the town used ? Castillan ? Arpitan (franco-provencal) ? Or maybe a mix of arpitan, french, occitan, piedmontese italian and schweitzer german ?
As a Peruvian I can say that Hispanics are those who have Spanish as their mother tongue, whether we are white, mestizos, black or even of indigenous ethnicity, and of course in the cultural area we have a great contribution, both Spanish and indigenous. Unfortunately our identity is being distorted or misinterpreted.
I'm Latvian and Brazilian, white, and I currently live in America. Many times I've had to take mandatory surveys asking, among other things, if I'm "White/Non-Hispanic or Latin" or "White/Hispanic or Latin"... ugh.
@@clarencemerritt5003 No lol. Just wanting to know if you're white and make sure you're not one of those annoying Spanish speaking ppl that refuse to assimilate.
@@gabrielmathews4147 know about what? That's what white Americans believe. And to your question even if it's irrelevant. yes I am white and it should not have any bearing to my opinion on things. Racial ignorance is rife in America.
@@clarencemerritt5003 Dumbass I was explaining why there are so many boxes to check. I tagged you bc of your response. I wasn't asking if you're white smh. Try and keep up.
@@gabrielmathews4147 try to keep up? you pretty much just wrote (I just want to know if your white) are you some kind of a imbecile? You assumed my race and I ask answer that. if you don't like the answer don't respond like a petulant child! It just makes you look like a complete imbecile philistine!
"Ibero" might be a more accurate term for what "Latino" usually means in American English. People of the Americas with cultures descendant from the Iberian countries, Portugal and Spain.
But then again you'd be leaving out the people who are descendants of the French, the German, the Polish... And they aren't few! An example would be how a big majority of the Rioplatense population in Argentina descends from Italians. I consider Italian, Spanish, French and to a lesser extent, German immigrants to be the dorsal spine of Argentine culture, and none of them are Iberian besides the Spanish.
Sure, but Argentina is rightful Italian clay. In fact, the American continents themselves derive their namesake from Amerigo Vespucci, an Italian explorer
I always include our Quebecois brothers and sisters as well as our relatives in old Acadia aka New Brunswick! They’re Latin American through and through!
A person born and raised in Mexico is an Mexican Regardless if the that person parents are Mexican or not that person is still consider as an Mexican because he or she was born in Mexico so my question is what is the race of an Mexican? 🤔🤔 Latino or Hispanic ?
@WethePeople. Now everything makes sense I understand. Other people need to understand the difference between race and nationality sadly they don't lol 😂
For starters, not all Americans are ignorant, only a large majority of us, lol. But I studied Spanish Language & Culture in college and you did good with this one. I will say that when I was in Cartagena, Colombia it seemed that many afro-colombians saw themselves as simply "Colombians" and seemed to identify as both black and latino. I found this really interesting being black from the USA.
Because Latino, even though I find the concept stupid, is an ethnicity and not a race. In simple words, a """race""" is something you inherit biologically, whereas an ethnicity is something you learn (a culture).
Clarence Merritt this is how these people define themselves. There is a “Latino. Awards” show like the Oscars. Don’t be so self involved everyone has a right to define who they are and it isn’t up to you.
@@chairde I'm not dictating how people should describe themselves. I'm just saying how horribly flawed! If they want to use horribly inaccurate terms. That's their business. but it doesn't change the fact that is just utterly wrong. It just contributes to more ignorance. And that just has to be stated.
@@DomingosCJM No it isn't. That's just as retarded as saying it's a race. There are European Latinos, Multiracial Latinos, African Latinos and Native American Latinos
I am German, my family or ancestors got to Guatemala in 1840. in Guatemala is hardly to find Latino or Hispanic blood. because there are a lot indigenous around, and the only whites of Guatemala are not true Hispanics neither true Latinos. The whites in Guatemala to be exact are Germans at most .. but we are called as Latinos. when we are not...actually! but that is the culture in Latin America.
@@AT-wj5sw yup! am here in Guatemala, probably is the *Greatest History Never Told* before.. here is our German history in Guatemala en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Guatemalan antiguadailyphoto.com/2011/02/15/the-germans-in-guatemala/#.XQA_mKixU0M *The Greatest History Never Told* es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visita_del_crucero_Emden_a_Guatemala_(1936) there are thousands of Germans in Guatemala since 1820 to be exact and today we are still the whites in Guatemala. there are very few of true Spanish descendents there. greetings
Im Brazilian, have been living in the US for a few years and this is the best video about this subject I’ve seen on TH-cam. You covered pretty much everything. Thank you.
Another very informative video. I found out about some of this as an ESL teacher. A student with a very stereotypical Spanish name was having extreme problems in my elementary ESL class. I asked my most advanced Spanish speaking student if he could help by explaining the grammar to her in Spanish. His answer was that her Spanish was as little as her English because "she's an Indio." I have also discovered that while my Venezuelan students didn't seem to have racist views, some people in other Latin American countries certainly do.
I was born in Colombia and moved to USA when I was 9, when I arrived I was so confused with the terms "latino" and "hispanic" because I had never heard of them and had always identified myself as Colombian. I don't hate the terms, but I feel like they need to be fixed or we need to have new terms that incorporate a better sense of what we are (I had also identified as mestizo but I knew I could use the term "mixed" in America since that had it's own meaning as well, even though mixed=mestizo)
I agree, I think we should come up with better terms than "Latin America". Personally I've thought that something like "Ibero-America" would be more adequate because let's face it- most people when referring to Latin America are only referring to the Spanish and Portuguese speaking parts of the Americas. A term like "Ibero-America" would also *not* be a racial identifier, it would simply be a linguistic identifier, in the same way "Latin America" is. So you could be of Quechua, Aztec, Italian or German ancestry, but being from a country that speaks Spanish or Portuguese would make you Ibero-American.
You got that right. The term Latino is wrong. First of all it should be LATIN in English and not Latino but this is because a Mexican man called Frank del Olmo wanted to unite all the Spanish-speaking people of the Americas under one label so he chose the wrong "Latino" label instead of using a RACE or Country of origin like Mexican , Colombian, Cuban...or just "Latin American/s". Frank del Olmo had no respect for English and knew nothing about the real meaning of Latin and when this term can be used. th-cam.com/video/jyAjG4hPckA/w-d-xo.html
Some people think I am rediculous to claim White in the Racial Census, even though my mother and father were born in Portugal and genetic tests show I am 98% European. I guess people cannot get over the preconceived notion that White = Blond hair and blue eyes and dark hair, eyes, and medium brown skin is Hispanic/Latino, wrong!
Latinos is Spanish plural and is grammatically incorrect in English-correct way in English is LATINS, LATIN singular and LATINS plural and NOT LATINOS. Secondly, these are the Latins: Italians, French, Romanians, Portuguese and Spaniards. Those from Latin America are "Latin Americans". According to Ms. Citlalli of mexica-movement they are NICAN TLACA people. th-cam.com/video/jyAjG4hPckA/w-d-xo.html
By race none white Hispanics are not real Hispanics,they're just a result of a melting pot to confuse millions and thus we have the confusion you see today from lesser minds..
I'm Brazilian from German, Azorean and Polish roots. So, I'm Caucasian, I'm not related to African or amerindian heritage. But I'm Latin, coz I was born and raised in Latin America (state of Rio Grande do Sul where the vast majority of people are white from German, Azorean, Polish and Italian heritage). For me, it's quite clear I'm not Hispanic. This is laughable. I'm Latin American, this is quite obvious (duh...) and white from European roots. But I don't feel connections of any kind with Cubans, Mexicans, Belizeans or Bolivians. It's like oil and water. I'm Brazilian. This "Latino race" is a stupid thing that only exists in the crazy world of the USA.
João Ignacio Katy Perry is Portuguese as well. She’s part of her family from Azores... 😍 and the fact of you felling not related to your Neighbours is probably because you aren’t Hispanic, whereas all of them are!
Your not Hispanic because speak only Portuguese but for me the Whites in Southern Brazil who now lives in the US are Portuguese Americans even they don’t have Portuguese roots because they are white and speak Portuguese like Scandinavian Canadians as English Americans
Im Chilean, and growing up i never understood the concept of race... for me, people were in a spectrum of colors... some people were a bit lighter or a bit darker, but i never felt a separation of groups based in the color of their skin
I think the term Mestizo fits best for Latin Americans because the definition ( Spanish and Indigenous mixed) covers the majority of the ancestry in most Latin Americans. Obviously, African ethnic groups are usually part of the mix as well. Mestizo just makes sense to me in terms of Latin Americans or hispanoamericanos.
If currently the word mestizo also adds Afros as mestizo = mixed, in the countries of South America they recognize it as a mixture of (African, Europe, native)
@@88kjk75 No no,i know it was coincidence,sorry if you misinterpreteted it. Pd:also sorry for my english,it's not my mother languaje so correct my if i mispelled something.
Obviously the Aztecs weren't Latin American, as Latin America wasn't a thing back then. But if an indigenous person from a Latin American country say they're latino, they're right, by virtue of them being from a Latin American country. Latin American is not a race, anyone of any race can be Latino. If you're talking about Indigenous people of the US, no they're not Latino but I can see why they'd argue they are. Since many Latin Americans have considerable indigenous ancestry I see the link. Genetically there is a link between native Americans of the US and many Latinos.
The term Hispanic is not a ethnicity marker, but a cultural identifier. A "Hispanic is a person born in a nation, outside Spain itself, were Spainish is their native tongue, regardless of their race. No matter White, Black, Amerindian, Biracial..... .......
I'm mexican and i'm a proud Latino.Hispanic is someone from Spain.If someone is born in the Continent of América, you become a citizen of the Continent of América.
Also, Pygmies. There's pretty good genetic evidence that the Eastern and Western Pygmies are two completely different races which evolved similar phenotypes in response to a similar environment. Previously the groups were defined only linguistically. It's also been suggested that the Twa might be a third distinct group that originated recently from Bantus, but I doubt it and haven't seen genetic evidence. Throw in Negritos and you could do an episode about the ecotypes conception of race pushed by Templeton. There's also the Hadza who despite the clicks in their language are a genetically and linguistically unrelated to the other groups. A Subsaharan hunter-gather episode, that's what I want. There's been some really detailed best-fit cluster analysis done on African population.
Hispanic/Latino are not races they are cultures There are black Latino people there are white Latino people there are Amerindian Latino people.... Technically, Quebec and the French West Indies are Latin because French is a language of Latin origin
Hip Hop Souljah anybody in Latin America is Latino and that’s it! Even Belize and some of the other non Spanish or Portuguese speaking countries in Latin America can be thrown in there.
Is not even a culture in the general sense american express about. As an argentinian I have never eat a taco on my life, I conjugate the spanish different than any other country except uruguay, anywhere outside the southern cone of south america, everyone thinks im a gringo until I open my mouth, and they realize im argentine, which sometimes its worst. Its impossible for me to move and adapt to some societies like the bolivian (and for most of latinoamericans that are not indigenous actually), etc.
Latino and Hispanics are synonymous. Latinos would include French, Italian, Portuguese, and Spaniards. Hispanics are mostly descended from Spain, but can also include Portugal (culture wise) not ethnically.
as a "latino", I love being stereotyped by most people in canada and us as with traits that actually don't apply to argentines, and especially to my province's people, in general sad, introverted because of the mountains and the temperate-cold climate. they think I'm "caliente", I dance salsa, I arrive late and a large etcetera. actually, I laugh often because of such comments.
Race is WWWAAAAAAYYYYY more complex in Latin America than it'll EVER be here in the states. I'm interested in Peru & Mexico, as the ones to hold the most amount of ruins and the oldest civilizations of Latin America, and I'm interested in Ecuador (because I have been there).
Well done! I want to give some of my story as I find it a fascinating case study and I want to hear your input (also this will practically be a novel so have fun). I was born in a primarily Hispanic area of the United States and by that I mean that if you wanted you could live in said area and never speak a word of English if you wished. My mother, who lived in Mexico for a while and spoke fluent Spanish (and I know many are a little skeptical but she spoke what sounded like native speaker Spanish it was bizarre) and was an elementary school teacher for Spanish speaking students- as in she taught in Spanish. So when I was born she only ever spoke to me in Spanish and spent a long long time making sure I was raised and socialized amongst Spanish speaking people. She volunteered as a teacher with a playgroup of specifically native Spanish speaking parents and their kids and I played with their kids. I think it’s important to note now that I am white- Protestant, northwest European, pretty standard- so I stuck out. But I didn’t know anything other than speaking Spanish. It was only later, after I started elementary school at an immersion school, that I learned that a white blonde haired blue eyed Spanish speaking native was not “normal”. My class was split up into two groups: Spanish speaking “Latino people” and English speaking Spanish ignorant white people. And then there was me. And that’s always been me. I know there are other white Hispanics but most of them trace ancestry back to a latinamerican country or Spain, but I don’t. Sometimes I wonder where this leaves me. I’m not Latino, not at all, but I meet a lot of the criteria for Hispanic. Does anyone else have an experience like this or have a name for people like me? I’m just curious!
Back in elementary school we used to identify people just as "Mexican" or "not Mexican" and I remember in like 3rd grade I got paired up with this guy who's last name was "Munoz" and I was looking around the class for like 5 minutes when the whitest kid in the room came up to me. My entire worldview was shattered.
If you want to see more people like you, look at North of Spain and Portugal those places were heavily colonized by Germanics tribes like suevos And Visigoths. It's weird for me as a white Brazilian watch American movies because Everytime they showed a Latino, they show someone who look much more like native Americans or middle Easterners than a Latino. I truly believe it's a big shock to the average American, when they travel to Mexico and see the movies make by the progressive hoolywood was showing a stereotype the all Time. A stereotype create in the middle ages that says the Germanic and Anglo Saxons was superior to Spaniards because they live side by side with the Islamists and Jews, A big reason why the Spain Inquisition happened.
@Soja So jajajajajajajaja WTF did I just read, as a Spaniard that was the most idiotic comment I have ever read regarding my country, you must be an american "white nationalist", you have no idea how diverse we are in Spain. 1. A spaniard from Andalucía looks nothing like a Gallego, Vasco, Catalan or Canario. People from Asturias and Galicia mostly have a celtic look, in Las Palmas de la Gran Canaria they look exactly like mixed south americans, and in Aragón, Comunidad Valenciana and Cataluña the visigoth look predominates. And she definitely looks northern european, she will never pass as a Spaniard, but many mixed latin americans do. 2. The accent you mostly dislike is not native american fool it comes from Extremadura, Palmas de la Gran Canaria and some regions of Andalucía, like Granda. But since you are a moron and ignorant american you don't know that. In these places we pronounce the Z and S the same and use an older castellano version, just like south americans. The reason is because the first spaniards to arrive in the américas came from these regions. In fact the only Argentinians that speak with Italian accent are Porteños, people that live in Buenos Aires, in other regions they speak very similar to Peruvians, but since you are a racist asshole you believe everything you read in your stormfront page. 3. Most spaniards do not consider a mistake extending our family, culture, and language (castellano) into south american, it is you americans that have destabilized these regions in the last century for your own gain. In fact many spanish men are mixing with latinas in huge numbers and I am not joking, mostly because of family values. We are getting more close as time passes, let that sink into your inbred skull. 4. The "spanish language" doesn't technically exist it is CASTELLANO. It is like naming the English language as "British".
Then you are hispanic, it is the values you grow with not race. We iberians were conquered by many tribes, our ancestry is very mixed just like south americans, but our values and traditions are very similar. You probably have the idiosyncrasy of an iberoamerican women so you are hispanic.
@Soja So @Soja So jajajajajajajaja WTF did I just read, as a Spaniard that was the most idiotic comment I have ever read regarding my country, you must be an american "white nationalist", you have no idea how diverse we are in Spain. 1. A spaniard from Andalucía looks nothing like a Gallego, Vasco, Catalan or Canario. People from Asturias and Galicia mostly have a celtic look, in Las Palmas de la Gran Canaria they look exactly like mixed south americans, and in Aragón, Comunidad Valenciana and Cataluña the visigoth look predominates. And she definitely looks northern european, she will never pass as a Spaniard, but many mixed latin americans do. 2. The accent you mostly dislike is not native american fool it comes from Extremadura, Palmas de la Gran Canaria and some regions of Andalucía, like Granda. But since you are a moron and ignorant american you don't know that. In these places we pronounce the Z and S the same and use an older castellano version, just like south americans. The reason is because the first spaniards to arrive in the américas came from these regions. In fact the only Argentinians that speak with Italian accent are Porteños, people that live in Buenos Aires, in other regions they speak very similar to Peruvians, but since you are a racist asshole you believe everything you read in your stormfront page. 3. Most spaniards do not consider a mistake extending our family, culture, and language (castellano) into south american, it is you americans that have destabilized these regions in the last century for your own gain. In fact many spanish men are mixing with latinas in huge numbers and I am not joking, mostly because of family values. We are getting more close as time passes, let that sink into your inbred skull. 4. The "spanish language" doesn't technically exist it is CASTELLANO. It is like naming the English language as "British".
I'll throw another wrench. Portuguese in its beginnings both linguistically and ethnically were just abother group of "Spanish Galicians" before Portuguese as a language diverged more into what it is today. I own centuries old copies of old Portuguese and it reads so similar to Spanish and Galician. Many whites in Latin america have Portuguese and Spanish in their DNA results which I myself have. Many don't consider Brazilians Hispanics but many of our whites are Spanish Portuguese when theyre from founding families or early colonizers. We also have til this day large concentrations of first and second generation Spaniards in Brazil or children of other south Americans in Brazil who Speak both languages. So what are they according to Americans?
Masaman, are you familiar with GEDmatch genetic calculators? According to GEDmatch, Spanish and Portuguese dedicate 50% of their autosomal DNA to non Mediterranean/non Africa/non Asian markers, mostly Celtic with some Germanic. In comparison, English and North Germans have 75% non Mediterranean autosomal DNA. Interestingly, in southern Europe, only the North of Italy has 50% non Mediterranean DNA, with the Central and South of Italy as well as Greece having about 25-35% non Mediterranean DNA. With Spain and Portugal being litterally half Mediterranid and half Celtic/Germanic, should it even be considered Southern Europe? Also why is it that northern Italy, being far more geographically north and closer to France and Germany, not have more non Mediterranean DNA like its cousins south in Spain and Portugal? The answer is in the history of Iberia,, but since you are the genius video maker, please make a video about this!
Visigoths, Vandals, and Suevi are northern Germanic peoples originally from Modern Day Sweden and Germany they migrated to Eastern Europe then Migrated into Iberia (Spain and Portugal) (also took the Alans an Iranian people with them) towards the end of the Western Roman Empire. Many words like Queso (Keez) or Alto (Halt) come from Germanic origins some names too like Enrique (Heinrich, Henry) Guillermo (Wilhelm, William) Adolfo (Adolf) Griselda and even the directions of Norte/North, Sur/South, Este/East and Oeste/West are Germanic in origins opposed to Latin directions like Oriente and Occidente.
@@xochiltepetzalailhuicamina2322 Yes and words like Guerra (war) and my favorite, Faca (Knife). I have always wondered where all these interesting words have come from in Portuguese growing up. Germanic influence is evident! Also, of the 50% non Mediterranean, 10% is "baltic" also considered Germanic. We are talking about ancient DNA of course
@@ntrakstudio The Goths (Visigoths) are supposedly originally Southern Sweden like gotland and Vastergotland, the Suevi are thought to be Northern Swedish or Swiss and Vandal/Wends are thought to be from Northeastern Germany and Modern Day Poland. So there is definitely some Germanic blood in Spanish or Portuguese peoples.
I’m Mexican, but a lot of People in southern Mexico think I’m some sort of Spaniard or that I have Spanish background. I’m not. When I lived in the Mexican Caribbean, in Quintana Roo, Yucatán peninsula, I felt like I was living in a different country. Never could I assimilate with the locals. Turists there also thought I was a tourist from some European country like Portugal, Spain, Italy and even Greece? (Wtf). I consider myself a common dude in my hometown, but in the rest of my country I’m a stranger apparently.
David Cervantes I’m from Sinaloa and have traveled extensively throughout the Mexican Northwest (Sonora and Baja California) and have realized that the majority of the population does possess strong Mediterranean phenotypes and, thus, look like Cypriots, Greeks, Turks, Italians and darker Spaniards. So yes, indeed, living on the Yucatán peninsula, where the majority of the population is of indigenous descent with a mostly indigenous phenotype, you would feel out of place and look foreigner.
I am of Cuban ancestry (mestizo) and born and raised in Miami which obviously has a huge "latino" population. I agree 100% with what you're saying and I've been saying this stuff almost all my life. I've gotten so much opposition and even hatred from other "Latino" people who think that either I'm wrong, stupid or ashamed of my heritage.
I'm British. I decided to educate myself about what is meant by Latino and Hispanic in US demographics. 1. These terms only apply to people living in USA. A Mexican in Mexico isn't a Latino if he stays in Mexico. 2. A Spaniard living in USA is Hispanic but not Latino. 3. A Brazilian living in USA is Latino but not Hispanic. 4. A Portuguese person living in USA is neither Hispanic nor Latino. 5. The terms are defined as ethnicities but refer to language and not race. 6. If native American from Latin America settles in USA they are considered Latino, even if they speak an Amerindian language rather than a Latin language. 7. A lot of Americans, perhaps most, don't understand the term Latino, and think it means mestizo.
To elaborate further, there is no typical Hispanic/Latino appearance. For instance, an Argentine could be of Irish descent, a Cuban of Syrian descent, a Mexican of Scottish descent, and so forth. I kid you not that most Americans would be shocked, seeing an Irish girl speaking Spanish 😂😂
@@tayirnull1567 a friend of mine is Irish. Her parents are Chinese. She spent some time in America after university, as many young Irish people do. She told me that she would be accused of putting on her Irish accent. She also had Americans who had never been to Ireland but claim to be Irish, telling her they are more Irish than she is.
@@andread5614 if you live in USA you are hispanic because you come from a Spanish speaking country and latino because you come from a Latin American country. If you live in Argentina you are neither hispanic nor latino. I expect Argentina has its own way of categorising people.
@@chesterdonnelly1212 Certainly any country have a smarter way to categorize people. But in my opinion, in 2019 I think we are in an age where we don't need to keep putting labels to peopl (which either way is quite confusing and diverse according to where you live anyways). Countries as France for example and plenty of others don't ask about ethnicity in National Census but only for Nationality and I think Religion. I think that's more than enough. Even hispanic as a cultural term makes little to none sense in the US, maybe only if they speak about Mexico. But hardly a Dominican and a Spaniard or a Puerto Rican and an Uruguayan for example have more in common for being what in the US named hispanic as culture or race than let's say Spain and Portugal or France.
@@andread5614 I totally agree. I researched this to understand it, but I don't think it really makes much sense. In Spain they categorise people as Spaniards and immigrants. So if your nationality is Spanish your race and ancestry is not important. The government does record where the immigrants come from. I'm British and this does make me wonder why do I have to put my race on the census and also when I apply for jobs? How is that relevant or useful information for anything?
🙏🏻 finally someone who “gets it”. It’s been a point of frustration for me ever since I immigrated to North America 23 years ago. My first “encounter” with this obsession of classifying people by race and ethnicity and the ludicrous Latino/Hispanic terms was in 1996 when filling out a form at a Florida high school, as my English wasn’t the best back then someone at the registration office was helping me fill it out so when it came to the question about race the secretary had already checked off the box for WHITE then came a question about place of birth, when I responded Brazil she went back to the race question erased the check mark ✅ in the box for WHITE and put a check in the box for HISPANIC 🤣 in reality, no one sees me as anything other than white as I’m as white as white can be and my last name is German but every time I mention I was born in Brazil people seem to panic and say stupid things like I don’t look Brazilian or because of my last name they’ll ask me if I’m part German part Brazilian 😂🤣 when I answer that I’m actually part German part Italian they’ll say things like oh so you’re not really Brazilian 🤬 my answer is always yes I am as Brazilian as any other person born in Brazil I just happen to be born to a German dad and an Italian mother what’s so freaking difficult to understand? As you mention in your video North Americans have no issue understanding the complexities of the demographics in North America why is it so difficult for them to understand that not everything and everyone south of the American/Mexico border the same? Even culturally we’re not the same, I don’t see any similarities between Uruguay and let’s say Guatemala apart from the language being spanish. Is Canada and Jamaica the same because both speak English?!? Yes a big chunk of people in South America has a mixed back ground but so do people in North America and no one lumps them all together with other groups of people who happen to also have been born in North America. There are people in South America who are only native or only Asian or only African or only European and they’re proud of their home countries and their ancestry. I find it very disrespectful when someone shrugs off the things that make who you are based on sheer ignorance. I mean if you’re going to discriminate and label people at least do it right cause as it is it makes North Americans look both racists and stupid. I’ve traveled a lot and have met people from all over, no one else but North Americans seem to obsess so much about these things and get it so wrong in the case of central and South America.
Jajajaj yo soy de Costa Rica pero como les parezco muy blanco y muy alto se intentan inventar de dónde provengo..."hmm no no muchacho usted parece como ruso"....de verdad no entienden de qué va la cosa, es como que de verdad no pueden pensar por fuera del racismo
so i am guatemalan and i actually identify as indigenous mayan, not indian or native american, and not as Hispanic or latino. I can't speak my mother language but elders in my family can. i can speak spanish but i would gladly be able to speak my indigenous language rather than spanish because when the colonizers invaded us and brought their culture they basically eliminated most of our culture and that's why i cant speak my native language and have a spanish last name. i solely identify as indigenous mayan because i am trying to reclaim my identity now and not identify with labels after "colonization"
The thing about Honduras is that the islands over there are mostly of people of British descent. They even still speak English over there too. So it's kinda confusing.
Latino and Hispanic are LINGUISTIC terms, not RACIAL or SOCIOECONOMIC terms. Hispanic = Spanish speaker Latino = Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, French, Romanian, and any other Latin derived language speaker Latin American = Brazileans, and any Spanish and French speakers from the Americas.
@Tew massa Latino is a colloquial contraction of the Spanish word Latino Americano. But the formal and more actual definition is anyone who speaks a language of Latin origin. The US census adopted the colloquial term from the Latin Americans, but believe it or not, the Latin Americans got the term Latin America from the French. Napoleon III popularized the term in the Americas to promote brotherhood between Portuguese, Spanish and French colonies in the Americas, so he could claim Mexico as a French colony. In all realness, this term needs revision from the Latin Americans, who successfully convinced the Americans that Latinos are just Latin Americans, and, thus, American media convinced the rest of the world that Latinos are Latin Americans. As a Latin American myself, I despise how Latin Americans claim the word Latino for themselves and exclude the rest of the continents that speak a Latin derived language. In fact, Latin Europeans have more right to claim the word Latino as their own. The Latin language and culture was a Mediterranean one, founded in present day Italy, and not originally from the Americas, which had Amerindian culture. In Italian, the word Latino just means Latin, so Latin Americans claiming that Italians cannot use that word to describe themselves as the ancestors of the Romans is pretty ignornant.
@@Damio22yt No you are not. You are Slavic. You may use the Latin alphabet, but you don't speak a Latin derived language. If you learn a Latin derived language like Spanish, Portuguese or French to a fluent level, then you can gain your Latino citizenship. You don't have to be born Latino. You can certainly become one if you want to be and if you put the effort to respect and learn the language and culture. Btw, in my country of Argentina, we got a significant amount of Latino Poles.
Brazil has the largest Japanese descendants globally outside of Japan. They have made large contributions to Brazil and many in São Paulo have Japanese ancestry dating back a century. Surprised that wasn’t mentioned in the Brazil part.
Latino is most likely derived from the Spanish "latinoamericano". Latino is not extended to cover "latin" languages but only covers people who speak Iberian languages: Spanish and Portuguese in the Americas.
How is it racist? Latinos are not a race. Italians are not a race. How is it culture appropriation? Latinos all speak a dialect of Spanish or Portuguese but all have cultures that vary from each other.
@Mehmet Akif Aydoğdu I wasn't classifying you by slin tone...smh. I was classifying you by your origin andno your not white. Anymore than Obama would be considered white just because hes half white.
@@manyarcin4216 it's an opinion dude, you dont have to agree. It's my point of view, also Turks dont have their origins in Europe, hence why I dont call them white, same with Roma gypsies and middle easterners too.
As a southamerican myself, I gotta say you made a great video. This is a touchy subject in the "latin" world, since the mass media supports the idea that, to the south of the US, we're "all the same". I agree that the concept is based on geography and not on "race", but it still has a racist background. To support this statement you made, I have an example. In the mid '60s, my grandfather's brother (we would say "granduncle") migrated to the US. He and his family (sons, grandsons) are considered "white", but if I go to the US, coming from the same family, I would be considered "latino". The thing with the "latino" term is that it comes with a cultural prejudice. Since we're "latinos", we are expected live in hot places, listen to caribbean music, eat mexican food, basically have the same culture, and, when it comes to the US politics, vote for the same candidate. This couldn't be less true, as you may imagine. As a conclusion, I'll tell you an anecdote, when Paul McCartney came to play in my city, La Plata, he did it on winter, it was at night and it was raining, as a result it was like 3° Celsius. Paul McCartney was playing with just a shirt, freezing, when suddenly he said he didn't have warm clothing cause when he thought about Southamerica, all he knew was hot weather and tropical beaches.
Thank you so much for making this video Masaman. Since I was born in and grew up in the USA with Mexican parents and grandparents the USA’s conception of race and ethnicity has always baffled me. Every time I try to explain my view to my American friends they have almost always treated my view with confusion and suspicion. I think this is mostly due to the heavy politicization race and ethnicity have in the US that it tends to have an obfuscating effect on demographic history. Anytime I try to explain to my northern American friends my views on “Latino/Hispanic” I just send them your videos now lol
Thank you, Masaman. I love this video. As someone that is Hispanic/Latino, it really is something else now when I hear the terms spoken. Yes, most fellow Americans think of Hispanic/Latino as a race, including those who are Hispanic/Latino. For a while I would refer to it as an ethnicity/ethnic group, but that is also incorrect, though, race still takes the cake. The biggest reason, I think, why Hispanic/Latino is so ignorantly defined & used is because of the poison that is politics. You also have to factor in the the charged racist past with regard to "white" & "black". The messed up racial definitions continue today, as I mentioned, because of politics. Your videos do a lot of great work, Masaman. Keep up & God bless!
Fascinating...good idea to clear this up a little. Like usual, a few ideas for the future: 1. Why is Equatorial Guinea the only Spanish speaking country in Africa? 2. Chimane (Tsimane) Tribe of Bolivia-the healthiest people in the world? 3. Do a similar video with this format for how the Inuit people's in Northern North America overlap in many ways; it can help deter the derogatory term "Eskimo" 4. Something Hong Kong and Macau related given the news. Also, who lives on the Parcel and Spralty Islands? 5. What's the oldest country in the world? A deeper look at the Serene Republic of San Marino 6. Western Sahara/Sahrawi Republic Movement Explained 7. (My reiterations) 8. Most obscure ethnic immigrant groups in the USA (ex. Liechtensteiner Americans, etc.) *I use the term 'obscure' not offensively, but to denote ethnic divisions in the USA that are more uncommon to the average American 9. Dinetah-the Navajo homeland in the four corners region of the Western USA and other Native American territories and states in history and in modern times (Republic of Lakotah would be good in this one) 10. Rich ethnic heritages of New England and Maritime Providences of Canada
My opinion: Latino: a person from part of the Americas that have have historical, and cultural ties any itallic peoples Hispanic: any area that's population was infulanced the Spanish or Portugese Not useful terms but I feel like those make the most sense
I would make a small correction. A person from an area of the Americas influenced by Italic or Latin peoples is not a "Latino", but a "Latin" and more specifically, "Latin American". "Latino" is a term loaded with a confusing meaning and it doesn't belong to English.
Haiti is actually the FIRST Latin American country. It refers to countries colonized by Latin Europe. Haitians are Latin American the same way black Dominicans, Colombians or a native Maya from Guatemala are. We just don't call ourselves "latino" because that's dumb. Latin America is just a region. It's not meant to be used as a race or people group.
@ I don't give a fuck about "latin" organizations. That isn't our identity. Latins live in Latium, Italy. Everyone else calling themselves latin/latino are wannabes
In the US, there is a compulsion to drop people into a box and stamp a label on them. That obsession with categorizing people based on an intellectually lazy judgement of outward appearances has made them socially ignorant nitwits.
"socially ignorant nitwits" describes the vast majority of U.S. Americans and American politicians from both political parties want to keep it that way at all costs.
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its prey much the same as saying hey angloamericans since they are pretty much fewer countries 🙄 I’m from Argentina and I think that to use that label racially is so stupid 🤦🏽♀️ and disingenuous and actually portrays how little do Americans care to understand their southern neighbours
Great video as allways masaman! Im a latin american whith nordic, jewish, german, polish, spanish and italian descend. Despite this i fully embrace the latin american identy to describe miself over my national identity (argentinean) for my the latin american identity has more to do with a social condition of living in a region with similar socio-economics problems, cultural hierachys and same geo-political orientation than race or ethnicity
Can you make a video on how ethnic groupings are defined? As in what is an ethnic group, how is it different than a cultural/racial group, in cases of adoption what is the ethnic group, etc, exploring similar questions and edge cases :)
I finally understand y in South park: the stick of truth game when I picked latino or Hispanic as my background it said something like "well that's not a race/group/ethnicity". I was so confused at the time. Now I'm a bit less confused and more confused at the same time. If that make sense
USA complicates it. "Latin" America is mostly European of origin around 65 percent, The USA has around 70-75 percent of European origin. And somehow they consider Latinos as another race. Mind-boggling
4:14 my Favorite Miss Universe Brazil 2015 is German Brazilian background she looks like her U.S. candidate (Anglo American background) is considered Non-Hispanic White or White Hispanic but for me she is Non-Hispanic white because many Anglo Americans are look like her her Canadian counterpart is more Latino because she was born in Dominican Republic and more non Anglo looking than Miss Brazil 2015
Great video as always! I've often considered this question "what is Hispanic/Latino". I'm white, completely German background, but speak Spanish fluently, so this has been on my mind for most of the past 30-odd bilingual/bi-cultural years. 1) You should do a whole video on the Philippines. The Philippines was under Spanish colonial control for 377 years. Although it wasn't as mixed as the Americas, still there was a lot of intermixing over the centuries. There is a lot of Spanish vocabulary in Tegalog and Ilocano, as well as in the other languages spoken in the south of the archipelago. The surnames are quite often Spanish in origin. There was always major amounts of sea traffic between the ports of Manila and Acapulco , New Spain (Mexico), so I'm sure there are folks in the Acapulco who might not even be aware of their Filipino ancestry! 2) I have many Argentinian friends, some with deep roots in Argentina, others of more recent arrival. They all identify as being Argentinian, regardless of ethnic background. If, for example, a person is born in Argentina but ALL their ancestry comes from the Urkaine, or Switzerland, are they considered "Latino"? (a confusion when filling out a US census form, for sure). 3) Very distant relatives with my same surname are Brazilians, in the south. They know all their ancestors are German of some variety. Would they be "Latinos"? If one doesn't fit the precise box of Latino being of Spanish ancestry in some way or another, it then becomes very confusing, no? Keep up these fascinating videos!
My Filipino grandfather was born when the Philippines was still a Spanish colony. He was a fluent Spanish speaker since Spanish was then an official language. Would he be considered a Hispanic? Incidentally, his uncle became the first Philippine president who started the Philippine revolution against Spain in 1898 and later on started the Philippine American war in 1899. When the Philippines became an American colony, his uncle sent my grandfather to study at the University of Southern California (USC) here in Los Angeles where he graduated with a law degree in 1915. He went back to the Philippines and became a banker. He was a 32 degree Mason (Scottish Rite) when he passed away in 1973.
I love this video! I am one of those half Mexican/ U.S. born in Mexico. My mom's family is mestizo, and my great grandfather was pure amerindian. My grandma married a man of Spanish descent and my mom married a caucasian American. Sometimes the three of us grandma/mom/me stand together for pictures and things, it looks like a printer ran out of ink. The only sad part is really the fact that my grandmother still holds some of the beliefs of the old Spanish caste system and therefore sometimes she brags about my being light.
@@dttkku3954 Basically the Spanish conquistadors were trying to make the amerindians into Spaniards. They believed that a amerindian marrying a Spaniard was marrying up their child would be a mestizo a mix of both bloods, so such a person would be above the pure amerindian parent but below his Spanish parent in caste. Marriage to an African was lower still. Basically the more Spanish blood the higher in caste. The whole system was highly racist. The iberian Spanish were the highest, next were the creoles, those born in Mexico with two Spanish parents, followed by caustrizos, mixed whites, mestizos and so on. Most of Mexico absolutely ignores these things now but some rural places still prefer lighter skin. The reason this is still around is that the Spanish ruled Mexico for hundreds of years. Hope it helps. If you have anymore questions I'd be glad to answer.
They should just use Latino as a mixed race group with similar culture/ language and call it a day it’s not that deep and the majority of all Latinos tend to be a mix of native/European/African no matter the varying percentages.
Saying that Mexican/Latino/etc is a race/ethnicity is like saying American is a race. Just inconceivable. There is as much ( if not more ) racial diversity in Latin America as in the US. So yeah
@Gabriel barrueco exactly
Hello yeah brother, I'm from Brazil and the term latino isn't even used to tell which ethnicity one is. (although we are a latinos but not hispanic)
Exactly! Latin is a cultural heritage,not a race. And hispanic is a language group,not a race too. Latins and hispanics can be from any ethnicity,white,black,native american,asian and etc. United States people need to understand that. And also,Quebec is a part of Latin America too. The ignorance of USA is just annoying!
American is the original race
People from latin america calls themselves "latino or hispanic" as a race to avoid the fact they actually of native american ancestors, many even considers themselves white! here a video:
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Latinos *Exist*
Masaman "I'm about to end this hombre's whole career"
Latins are the Romans
@BELIZEAN BANG yes fool didnt you watch this episode? lol
Fucking stop this meme
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Lets face it these terms are made up
Partially because americans are to lazy to know the difference between any of the “ latin american” countries.
Partially its a way of saying those people over there who are different than us.
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The Latins (Latin: Latini), sometimes known as the Latians, were an Italic tribe which included the early inhabitants of the city of Rome. From about 1000 BC, the Latins inhabited the small region known to the Romans as Old Latium (Latium Vetus), that is, the area between the river Tiber and the promontory of Mount Circeo 100 kilometres (62 mi) SE of Rome.
The Latins were an Indo-European people who probably migrated into the Italian Peninsula during the late Bronze Age (1200-900 BC). Their language, Latin, belonged to the Italic branch of Indo-European. Their material culture, known as the Latial culture, was a distinctive subset of the Proto-Villanovan culture that appeared in parts of the Italian peninsula in the first half of the 12th century BC. The Latins maintained close culturo-religious relations until they were definitively united politically under Rome in 338 BC, and for centuries beyond. These included common festivals and religious sanctuaries.
The rise of Rome as by far the most populous and powerful Latin state from c. 600 BC led to volatile relations with the other Latin states, which numbered about 14 in 500 BC. In the period of the Tarquin monarchy (c. 550-500 BC), it appears that Rome acquired political hegemony over the other states. After the fall of the Roman monarchy in c. 500 BC, there appears to have been a century of military alliance between Rome and the other Latins to confront the threat posed to all Latium by raiding by the surrounding Italic mountain-tribes, especially the Volsci and Aequi. This system progressively broke down after c. 390 BC, when Rome's aggressive expansionism led to conflict with other Latin states, both individually and collectively. In 341-338 BC, the Latin states jointly fought the Latin War against Rome in a final attempt to preserve their independence. The war resulted in 338 BC in a decisive Roman victory. The other Latin states were either annexed or permanently subjugated to Rome.
The “Latino” concept only has relevance in the US. Here in actual Latin America it makes no sense! We divide ourselves more in countries or by being part of an indigenous nation. I’m Chilean, my heritage is European (Spaniard and Italian mostly), but in Chile is not that big of a deal. The American concept of race is a bit strange for us.
Hola yo soy de Ecuador
I completely disagree with that statement and I'm Chilean too.
RIght?! lol I'm brazilian and I consider myself white AND latin because I have italian and portuguese ancestry. And I still would do so if I had spanish ancestry... It just doesn't make any sense to have to choose one...
I may be wrong (I’m from the UK) but I don’t think Spain regard themselves as Latino either. They’re just European (Southern European or Mediterranean).
@@22Jeffers no but if you live in latin countries you're considered a latino regardless of your ancestry. it's like how if you live in america you're american regardless of race or ethnicity
US census *exists*
Masaman: "I'm about to end this man's whole career"
Census: *exists*
Mason: I'm about to end this man's *life*
Big fan from England Mason, great video mate.
Really interesting! I’ve always used theses labels without really thinking about what they mean. I guess Mestizo is the best description for me. Being Colombian I always was aware that my Abuela was amerindia (Panche) but living in the US has made me kinda adopt these imperfect terminologies. Thanks for the video.
Siempre me ha parecido muy simplista la forma en la que desde Estados Unidos se pinto con brocha gorda todo el resto del continente. Y los nacionales de estos países nos comimos el cuento entero.
Many people I know consider Mexican a race. They're boggled when I point out they're not. My general knowledge of the southern America makes it extremely difficult to say Mexican is race.
Don't start a riot man.
@BELIZEAN BANG You two gentlemen have too much brain power. Be careful
even some "mexican americans" think that. they get mad and full of identity issues when you educate them that they're not lol.
The easiest way to explain it to those people is just to point out that "Mexicans" weren't a race that existed on it's own like white, black, asian, native american etc. Just that they're mostly a mixuture of white and native american. Mix of two races, not one
@@isaact7182 nearly no African like literally almost none existant, do you want to be black or something?
*The terms Hispanic and Latin American have to do with language, culture, and geography, not genetics*
I should also point out that term, Latin (Latino), refers to the Romance peoples of Europe (French, Spanish, Portugese, Italians, etc).
Latin AMERICANS (Latinos Americanos) refers to the people in Central and South America who speak a Latin language.
It is mostly just a way to keep a major genocide from happening if there is more unity than division xD
@@toasterpastries5811 Quebec speak french (Canadá) Aruba, Suriman, Guyana Jamaica. They all central, North and South America.
Latinoamerica don't not exist.
Youre right
Excatly
You are absolutely right. I've been preaching what you just said here for many years. Most of us in USA are very ignorant about this subject, I blame our school system
It's not convenient for the school system to teach all of us history. Like when they took 55 of mexico, us army killed native Americans if California that were assimilated into Hispanic culture, or that the first European to settle in what is today 55 of us were Spaniards that later became Mexican citizens among native of mexico, mixed....
@@liliacreativity1751 The US school system focuses a lot on the errors of American history. I don’t get your point. Learning about the californios is pointless. It’s is insignificant in the grand scheme of US history. There’s alot to cover. In Texas they teach about tejanos so California probably does too when they get to California state history.
The school system mainly prioritizes important thing like the revolutionary, Civil, and 2 world wars
Rule number 1, make note that not all of us are mexican. Thank you.
Hispanic is made up--it's an American myth. No one outside of the US calls me or refers to me as "Hispanic." I've lived both in Europe and Asia, and all was asked on my applications, was my nationality! As far as Latin/o/a is concerned, that's another term I was rarely called or referred to outside of the US. Just wanted to share my overseas culture shock experience with fellow Masaman fans.
I live in europe and nobody calls me hispanic either. But everyone who knows my ethnic background calls me latina. Where in Europe did you live?
@@tinasnow5966 The Netherlands.
Americans are too obsessed with race.
@@tayirnull1567 We need to get rid of racial/ethnic identity politics all together. The world outside of the US no one cares about your race!
Europe's history have been a succession of rivalries and clashes between feudal kingdoms, later nation-states (or between religions).
So people tend to identify as british, german, spanish, french, russian, etc. far more than racially/ethnically.
It is especially true in western Europe (never tell a walloon that he's french, especially after football World cup).
The majority of my ancestry is from both Portugal and Spain, mostly the Canary Islands (my great grandma was from there), Galicia, and Azores so I'm majority Latino but also Slavic and Celtic too as I have Slovak, Irish, British, and Polish ancestry. And a little bit of Guinean and Native American ancestry too. It's fascinating to dig deep and learn more about Latin America and why people think Latino is a race, even though it's not but rather a mix of two or more
Dang, that's a cool mix my man.
Interesting
I'm about the same but i am from PR
@BELIZEAN BANG I know, I said "why people think Latino is a race, even though it's not"
@BELIZEAN BANG Once again, didn't say it was. All I said is Latinos are a mix of races and not one race. I think you're misinterpreting me. I never said Latino is a race. Majority of Latinos are mixed white, Native American, African etc but they're classified as Hispanic/Latino because of what language they speak. The only category we should be classified as is Mixed because that’s what we are, a mix of races not the so called “Latino race”
When it comes to Latinos like me, this channel is the ultimate 23andMe commercial
Lmao maybe you do Heraldo some of us acknowledge all ancestry without being ashamed
Wait does portugese count as Hispanic or Latino I'm confused
You are not a Latino. First of all Latino is wrong in English and secondly Latin is not your "native" heritage. Latin is the cultural heritage of the Italians and of the Latin Europeans.
@@carolinenachoz1417 your latino but not Hispanic
@@renatomacchi2195 I agree with you. Greek-Roman culture defines our core values. Christianity, mostly Catholics, molded those values (I'm an atheist, btw). If anything, England and all of its colonies are a subset of Western culture, nor the the defining one.
I agree with you, ever since I read the ancient map of Iberia Then called “Hispania” by the Romans, I knew there was something TERRIBLY wrong.
And the word "Hispania" was coined by the Phoenicians.
And then Hispania was conquered by the Moors and was renamed Al-Andalus (which currently Spain has adopted that name to refer to the southern region of Spain as "Andalucia" since that's where the main stronghold of Islamic rule was located). In fact much of what is considered Spanish culture was introduced by the Moors and their nearly 800 year rule then adopted and adapted by conquering Visgoths
@@incasolja1 yes and no, what I mean is that there is Arabic influence in Spain and Portugal, especially in the south, but it is not the main influence in Spanish culture. In fact, the main influence in Spanish culture is Roman.
Javier DiFrancisco and even the term Al-Andalus was an imperfect arabization of the Germanic tribes known as the Vandals hence “the vandals” in moorish Arabic “al Andalus”
Leon _ actually outside of arabia the other major influence is the northern Visgoths not roman
Interesting, I'm from Argentina, and I have always considered Quebec, Haiti and French Guyana part of Latino America.To me, if you were born in the American continent and your native language is part of the Latin family, you are Latino.
It's not just about being born in the American continent though bc it's a cultural label with connections to Latin Europe. It doesn't make sense that Latin Americans would be culturally Latino but Latin Europeans would not. That's where Latin cultures come from! Italy! U.S. has brainwashed people with the word Latino
@@delgi9551 Latino is a contraction of the term "Latino American". This is why it wouldn't include Europe.
It also excludes the countries above Mexico in latitude. Latino refers to people from a specific geographical region whose languages are of the romance language family or whose lexicon is primarily derived from romance languages.
@@MisyeDiVre it still makes no sense, spanish frencha nd italians are more latino than us, but since the us has stolen the "american" name for themselves despite being anglos, we come into troubles.
@@MisyeDiVre no
@@MisyeDiVre You cannot shorten Latin American and make it Latino apart from the fact that saying "Latino" when you should say "LATIN" in English is disrespectful. Latin is the language spoken by the Romans and their culture and this is not debatable. You are Mestizo-Indians.
Hi Masaman, i've some suggestions for the future
Who were the Lusitanians?
Kristang people
Genetics of Koreans
Are Koreans related to native Siberians?
Are Japaneses or Ryukyuans related to Austronesians?
Are Turks, Japaneses, Koreans related?
Are Dravidians related to native Aussies?
Are Visayans related to present day Indonesian people?
Genetics of PANAMÁ 🇵🇦🇵🇦🇵🇦🇵🇦🇵🇦🥥 very interesting, hope u do something about it
A video about the Lusitanians would be really interesting.
I understand the Koreans & Mongolians seem to have some kind of genetic connection. You look @ their physiognomies & they share similarities.
Visayans are as related to indonesians as much as all native filipino groups do. the visayan branch, as a whole, of the philippine language family is even equal sister branches to tagalog dialects and bicol languages
VictorLepanto Korean are the purest north East Asians closest to Manchurians while Mongolians are more like central Asians.
Interesting discussion. I was born and raised in Brazil from a Japanese descent family. Right now, I am a US citizen and I always find amusing to fill out surveys about my race which is very constant here in US. We don't do that in Brazil when we go see doctors or look for jobs. I always identify myself as Asian, because biologically (genetically), I am 100% Japanese (as per genetic test). However, culturally, I would say that I am around 80% Brazilian and therefore, Latino. As a rule, when I fill out surveys here, I think they are asking me about my genetics and not my culture and I answer accordingly. I feel that those surveys are not helpful and descriptive of who I am. Also, I immigrate here with my husband who is Russian. You will never guess this from looking at any survey that I filled out.
@Carpe Diem Right. I don't think its as big a deal as people think it is. Technically, anyone can just check "mixed" and be correct.
Born: Brazil
Family: Japanese
Surname: Slavic
Me: *Confusion*
As I said Husband is Russian. I just feel it is irrelevant to fill surveys and questions in US, because it doesn't tell who I am at all in just one box.
You’re part of the Latin American diversity mosaic of cultures! Beautiful! As am I and millions others
@@marinsanchez9587 not exactly, If it is paper based, there are all the options above and you can check as many boxes you want, but not as a subcategory to Latino/Hispanic. It is listed as the subcategory of being American, not Latino/Hispanic. Now, if you are filling online, then you have to chose one of those or if you have more than one background, you can chose others sometimes. Nowadays, everything is online. So, I can only choose one and I normally go with my biological background and not with my cultural one. Although, either way, it would be correct about me.
Dude you should have your own show on National Geographic
Nat Geo wouldn't do him justice! He's more suited for Curiosity Stream.
@@mrbyzantine0528 yeah with Morgan Freeman cameos to top it off lol
Or a netflix show
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Latino is an invented word by Napoleon III when he conquered Mexico in order to eliminate any Spanish relationship. The historic and accurate description is Hispanoamerica and Hispanos. That works for the Iberians(portugal, Spain) because Hispania was the name of the Peninsula when first the Romans and after Visigoths unify and give clear borders, rules and religion.
And Hispanoamerica are the descendants of this culture, Hispanic/Iberian culture not latin(latio Italy)
Napoleon III brought the term "Latin America" and, consequentially, "Latin American". "Latino" and "Hispanic" are American inventions. The difference is relevant, because while "Latin American" is more easily understood as the national of a Latin American country, "Latino" is a vague concept referring to race, ethnicity, nationality, culture and language all at once.
luis peñafiel palmer latino -America fue lo que invento Napoleón
@luis peñafiel palmer
I got your point and recognize the common history, but as a Brazilian I don't see the word Hispanic in good terms as it surpasses my Lusitanian heritage.
Cinco de mayo,France lost.
But the cultural connection is still there. Latin is what made Spain Espana or Hispania what it is bc the Italians (Romans) Latinized or Romanized the Iberian Peninsula, who then not only Hispanicized, but Latinized the Americas. Hence, the cultural similarities and core elements between Latin Americans and Latin Europeans
Imagine being from a small town founded by French, Swiss and Piedmontese in Argentina and having an American on the internet call you Mexican / eat tacos
Lol true, But if it wasn't for Americans ppl in Argentina wouldn't have phones.
@@JoseRojas-ns1dp well you described ethnically to Argentina better than I could have done, that without a doubt. Of all good part of that internal migration was destined to Buenos Aires
Elfaztmashin - ay pobrecito! Al alemán, rubio de ojos azul celeste ¡le dijeron mexicano! ¡Qué horror...vaya ofensa! Denle algo para el dolor, por favor, que no hay pesar más grande en este mundo que ser llamado mexicano.
Toma un té de manzanilla para que puedas calmarte del gran dolor del cual has sido víctima al ser llamado mexicano.
Pobrecito, pobrecito.
@@alvarofavela2918 pobrecito nada amigo, si te gusta que te amontonen y generalizen contigo allá tu, pero somos todos los países latinoamericanos diferentes desde california hasta el el cono sur, y eso de los apodos la verdad en mi vida toque un taco.
Interesting indeed, what language did the founders of the town used ?
Castillan ? Arpitan (franco-provencal) ? Or maybe a mix of arpitan, french, occitan, piedmontese italian and schweitzer german ?
As a Peruvian I can say that Hispanics are those who have Spanish as their mother tongue, whether we are white, mestizos, black or even of indigenous ethnicity, and of course in the cultural area we have a great contribution, both Spanish and indigenous.
Unfortunately our identity is being distorted or misinterpreted.
I'm Latvian and Brazilian, white, and I currently live in America. Many times I've had to take mandatory surveys asking, among other things, if I'm "White/Non-Hispanic or Latin" or "White/Hispanic or Latin"... ugh.
Ti Americans, every Latino hispanic is a brown person and they forget Spain Portugal France Italy exist.
@@clarencemerritt5003 No lol. Just wanting to know if you're white and make sure you're not one of those annoying Spanish speaking ppl that refuse to assimilate.
@@gabrielmathews4147 know about what? That's what white Americans believe. And to your question even if it's irrelevant. yes I am white and it should not have any bearing to my opinion on things. Racial ignorance is rife in America.
@@clarencemerritt5003 Dumbass I was explaining why there are so many boxes to check. I tagged you bc of your response. I wasn't asking if you're white smh. Try and keep up.
@@gabrielmathews4147 try to keep up? you pretty much just wrote (I just want to know if your white) are you some kind of a imbecile? You assumed my race and I ask answer that. if you don't like the answer don't respond like a petulant child! It just makes you look like a complete imbecile philistine!
You're the best TH-camr of all time.
Agreed. I really enjoy his videos
Deff not he literally doesnt know history. He read wiki pages.
"Ibero" might be a more accurate term for what "Latino" usually means in American English. People of the Americas with cultures descendant from the Iberian countries, Portugal and Spain.
Pfhorrest you are wrong, French guinea is also considered Latino...
"Latino" in English is usually used to refer to the US minority, not latin America.
But then again you'd be leaving out the people who are descendants of the French, the German, the Polish... And they aren't few! An example would be how a big majority of the Rioplatense population in Argentina descends from Italians. I consider Italian, Spanish, French and to a lesser extent, German immigrants to be the dorsal spine of Argentine culture, and none of them are Iberian besides the Spanish.
@@DUWANGlai_kangyi with cultures and not themselves necessarily descendent from Iberia.
Sure, but Argentina is rightful Italian clay. In fact, the American continents themselves derive their namesake from Amerigo Vespucci, an Italian explorer
Quebec is part of Latin America technically
Basically
Yes, it should theorically be included, French culture is as much latin-derived as Spanish
Yes
I always include our Quebecois brothers and sisters as well as our relatives in old Acadia aka New Brunswick! They’re Latin American through and through!
And haiti
Mexicans is a nationality, not a race on its own.
A person born and raised in Mexico is an Mexican Regardless if the that person parents are Mexican or not that person is still consider as an Mexican because he or she was born in Mexico so my question is what is the race of an Mexican? 🤔🤔 Latino or Hispanic ?
@WethePeople. So you telling me the race of an Mexican is Indios ?
@WethePeople. Now everything makes sense I understand. Other people need to understand the difference between race and nationality sadly they don't lol 😂
Wouldn’t Mexicans just be mongoliod like eastern Asian or Native American mixed
Tumblr CAT they kinda look like them
For starters, not all Americans are ignorant, only a large majority of us, lol. But I studied Spanish Language & Culture in college and you did good with this one. I will say that when I was in Cartagena, Colombia it seemed that many afro-colombians saw themselves as simply "Colombians" and seemed to identify as both black and latino. I found this really interesting being black from the USA.
Afro Latinos.
Yes yes, you got it! They're not mutually exclusive
Because Latino, even though I find the concept stupid, is an ethnicity and not a race. In simple words, a """race""" is something you inherit biologically, whereas an ethnicity is something you learn (a culture).
I find American descriptions of these to be horribly inaccurate at the point of being of being ignorantly offensive! It is just painfully cringe!
Clarence Merritt this is how these people define themselves. There is a “Latino. Awards” show like the Oscars. Don’t be so self involved everyone has a right to define who they are and it isn’t up to you.
@@chairde Because the term has been normalized. And also, big companies can't define a group of people, that's absurd
@@chairde I'm not dictating how people should describe themselves. I'm just saying how horribly flawed! If they want to use horribly inaccurate terms. That's their business. but it doesn't change the fact that is just utterly wrong. It just contributes to more ignorance. And that just has to be stated.
@@mypenisisunbelievablysmall5258 your name truly suits you. you simpleton.
Clarence Merritt , All describing terms are inaccurate because they are based in social constructs.
Thanks for making this! LATINO IS NOT A RACE!
Thank you !!!
Latino is a race, Latino-American isn't.
@@DomingosCJM latino isn't a race
@@Demographiaanthropology You may say a subdivision of a white race instead.
@@DomingosCJM No it isn't. That's just as retarded as saying it's a race. There are European Latinos, Multiracial Latinos, African Latinos and Native American Latinos
Thank you! I have been saying this for years. The use of Hispanic and Latino is a old and meaningless word
Latinx sounds stoopid
I am German, my family or ancestors got to Guatemala in 1840. in Guatemala is hardly to find Latino or Hispanic blood. because there are a lot indigenous around, and the only whites of Guatemala are not true Hispanics neither true Latinos. The whites in Guatemala to be exact are Germans at most ..
but we are called as Latinos. when we are not...actually!
but that is the culture in Latin America.
What the heck are you doing down there??? your know Germany has a way better quality of life right?
You're Latin America since you speak Spanish.
@@AT-wj5sw if he wants to live there, why can't he do it
You are hispanic because you speak Spanish
@@AT-wj5sw yup! am here in Guatemala, probably is the *Greatest History Never Told*
before..
here is our German history in Guatemala
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Guatemalan
antiguadailyphoto.com/2011/02/15/the-germans-in-guatemala/#.XQA_mKixU0M
*The Greatest History Never Told*
es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visita_del_crucero_Emden_a_Guatemala_(1936)
there are thousands of Germans in Guatemala since 1820 to be exact and today we are still the whites in Guatemala. there are very few of true Spanish descendents there.
greetings
"Portugal,Spain,Italy......oh and Romania" 😂
Portugal, France, Romania, Spain, Italy. They have Latin roots. But say that American are Latino..
It is absolutely crazy.
That totally wasn't edited in later as an afterthought
@@Masaman This is literally the first time a youtuber responds to one of my comments,thanks.
@Ashkenazi Dissident Right i am also Ashkenazi jew.
@Ashkenazi Dissident Right I'm not good at writing in English, what is the meaning of Deist, by the way I'm Ashkenazi. Sorry for my English
Im Brazilian, have been living in the US for a few years and this is the best video about this subject I’ve seen on TH-cam. You covered pretty much everything. Thank you.
Another very informative video. I found out about some of this as an ESL teacher. A student with a very stereotypical Spanish name was having extreme problems in my elementary ESL class. I asked my most advanced Spanish speaking student if he could help by explaining the grammar to her in Spanish. His answer was that her Spanish was as little as her English because "she's an Indio." I have also discovered that while my Venezuelan students didn't seem to have racist views, some people in other Latin American countries certainly do.
Jay McJacome : You just open the Pandora Box on this issue. We Latin Americans should embark in a very profound self- criticism on this subject.
Latin Americans are racist ASF lol
I was born in Colombia and moved to USA when I was 9, when I arrived I was so confused with the terms "latino" and "hispanic" because I had never heard of them and had always identified myself as Colombian. I don't hate the terms, but I feel like they need to be fixed or we need to have new terms that incorporate a better sense of what we are (I had also identified as mestizo but I knew I could use the term "mixed" in America since that had it's own meaning as well, even though mixed=mestizo)
The U.S census should just remove the boxes all together and let people define for themselves
@I AM WHAT I AM yes, and although I am directly native American and European, I am still mestizo. That's what we identify as in Colombia
I agree, I think we should come up with better terms than "Latin America". Personally I've thought that something like "Ibero-America" would be more adequate because let's face it- most people when referring to Latin America are only referring to the Spanish and Portuguese speaking parts of the Americas. A term like "Ibero-America" would also *not* be a racial identifier, it would simply be a linguistic identifier, in the same way "Latin America" is. So you could be of Quechua, Aztec, Italian or German ancestry, but being from a country that speaks Spanish or Portuguese would make you Ibero-American.
You got that right. The term Latino is wrong. First of all it should be LATIN in English and not Latino but this is because a Mexican man called Frank del Olmo wanted to unite all the Spanish-speaking people of the Americas under one label so he chose the wrong "Latino" label instead of using a RACE or Country of origin like Mexican , Colombian, Cuban...or just "Latin American/s". Frank del Olmo had no respect for English and knew nothing about the real meaning of Latin and when this term can be used.
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Some people think I am rediculous to claim White in the Racial Census, even though my mother and father were born in Portugal and genetic tests show I am 98% European. I guess people cannot get over the preconceived notion that White = Blond hair and blue eyes and dark hair, eyes, and medium brown skin is Hispanic/Latino, wrong!
You are a really smart man Masaman! Very curious what your ethnic origin is
Latino or Latin America is just a euphemism for "Portuguese/Spanish" American countries. It doesn't literally mean all Latin countries.
Weird evolution for a term created by the French in order to create bonds with the Americas.
Iberian/Iberico-American would be much more precise.
Latinos are usually Europeans, Native Americans, Africans or a mix
@@isaact7182 thanks
Yep that's right
Latinos is Spanish plural and is grammatically incorrect in English-correct way in English is LATINS, LATIN singular and LATINS plural and NOT LATINOS. Secondly, these are the Latins: Italians, French, Romanians, Portuguese and Spaniards. Those from Latin America are "Latin Americans". According to Ms. Citlalli of mexica-movement they are NICAN TLACA people.
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Yes, whites and blacks in Southamerica are also considered latinos by everyone here. Not only mixed.
By race none white Hispanics are not real Hispanics,they're just a result of a melting pot to confuse millions and thus we have the confusion you see today from lesser minds..
Cuban is insluted when someone calls him Mexican. Then he calls to Korean Chinito
Its a bit different tho
Could you add English Subtitle in your videos ? You know, there are lots of deaf people who are interested in these topics.
Thank you
There is automatic subtitle in this video, sometimes it takes time for TH-cam generate it.
I'm Brazilian from German, Azorean and Polish roots. So, I'm Caucasian, I'm not related to African or amerindian heritage. But I'm Latin, coz I was born and raised in Latin America (state of Rio Grande do Sul where the vast majority of people are white from German, Azorean, Polish and Italian heritage). For me, it's quite clear I'm not Hispanic. This is laughable. I'm Latin American, this is quite obvious (duh...) and white from European roots. But I don't feel connections of any kind with Cubans, Mexicans, Belizeans or Bolivians. It's like oil and water. I'm Brazilian. This "Latino race" is a stupid thing that only exists in the crazy world of the USA.
João Ignacio Katy Perry is Portuguese as well. She’s part of her family from Azores... 😍 and the fact of you felling not related to your Neighbours is probably because you aren’t Hispanic, whereas all of them are!
Your not Hispanic because speak only Portuguese but for me the Whites in Southern Brazil who now lives in the US are Portuguese Americans even they don’t have Portuguese roots because they are white and speak Portuguese like Scandinavian Canadians as English Americans
Im Chilean, and growing up i never understood the concept of race... for me, people were in a spectrum of colors... some people were a bit lighter or a bit darker, but i never felt a separation of groups based in the color of their skin
To be fair, Chile was quite uniform back then, especially considering what it is like now. It began to change around 15 years ago.
@@MsBimbobear I agree, the concept of race has been more present due to immigration and discrimination.
I think the term Mestizo fits best for Latin Americans because the definition ( Spanish and Indigenous mixed) covers the majority of the ancestry in most Latin Americans. Obviously, African ethnic groups are usually part of the mix as well. Mestizo just makes sense to me in terms of Latin Americans or hispanoamericanos.
If currently the word mestizo also adds Afros as mestizo = mixed, in the countries of South America they recognize it as a mixture of (African, Europe, native)
Portugal, Spain, France and Italy...and Romania XDXDXDXDXD also you forgot Moldova lel
I made exactly the same comment before you.Coincidence?
@@spanishconquistador6371 you implying I stole your comment?
@@88kjk75 No no,i know it was coincidence,sorry if you misinterpreteted it.
Pd:also sorry for my english,it's not
my mother languaje so correct my if i mispelled something.
@@spanishconquistador6371 ok no problem
There are the True Latinos.
Do a vid on explaining the Indo-Aryan or Indo-Iranian migrations, I get mostly confused on this topic.
Yes
I know a lot of native Americans, who will argue that they are Latinos. They think the Aztecs were Latinos.
Elpidio Villarreal really dumb
Obviously the Aztecs weren't Latin American, as Latin America wasn't a thing back then. But if an indigenous person from a Latin American country say they're latino, they're right, by virtue of them being from a Latin American country. Latin American is not a race, anyone of any race can be Latino.
If you're talking about Indigenous people of the US, no they're not Latino but I can see why they'd argue they are. Since many Latin Americans have considerable indigenous ancestry I see the link. Genetically there is a link between native Americans of the US and many Latinos.
@@dennis771 oh really? Why do you say that?
@@perthdude21 Latinos relates to people in America of Latin origin/culture. Which incorporates french, italian, spanish and Portuguese
The term Hispanic is not a ethnicity marker, but a cultural identifier. A "Hispanic is a person born in a nation, outside Spain itself, were Spainish is their native tongue, regardless of their race. No matter White, Black, Amerindian, Biracial..... .......
Obediah Jones hispanos son los españoles, Hispanoamericanos somos los que vivimos en Latinoamérica.
I'm mexican and i'm a proud Latino.Hispanic is someone from Spain.If someone is born in the Continent of América, you become a citizen of the Continent of América.
Could you do a video like this but for South Africa? Maybe add Namibia just for fun? I'm super interested in the khoi specifically.
Also, Pygmies. There's pretty good genetic evidence that the Eastern and Western Pygmies are two completely different races which evolved similar phenotypes in response to a similar environment. Previously the groups were defined only linguistically. It's also been suggested that the Twa might be a third distinct group that originated recently from Bantus, but I doubt it and haven't seen genetic evidence. Throw in Negritos and you could do an episode about the ecotypes conception of race pushed by Templeton.
There's also the Hadza who despite the clicks in their language are a genetically and linguistically unrelated to the other groups. A Subsaharan hunter-gather episode, that's what I want. There's been some really detailed best-fit cluster analysis done on African population.
@@cameronrhanna African Pygmys are literally getting eaten by Bantus. Pheww.
While it's always good to recognize complexities some terms are meant to function as a generalization. Simple. Thanks for diving into this!
Hispanic/Latino are not races they are cultures
There are black Latino people there are white Latino people there are Amerindian Latino people....
Technically, Quebec and the French West Indies are Latin because French is a language of Latin origin
Hip Hop Souljah anybody in Latin America is Latino and that’s it! Even Belize and some of the other non Spanish or Portuguese speaking countries in Latin America can be thrown in there.
Yes like you have White Africans. They are not blacks but Whites
Is not even a culture in the general sense american express about. As an argentinian I have never eat a taco on my life, I conjugate the spanish different than any other country except uruguay, anywhere outside the southern cone of south america, everyone thinks im a gringo until I open my mouth, and they realize im argentine, which sometimes its worst. Its impossible for me to move and adapt to some societies like the bolivian (and for most of latinoamericans that are not indigenous actually), etc.
Latino and Hispanics are synonymous.
Latinos would include French, Italian, Portuguese, and Spaniards.
Hispanics are mostly descended from Spain, but can also include Portugal (culture wise) not ethnically.
...yes just like you have white Africans cuz they born there.
as a "latino", I love being stereotyped by most people in canada and us as with traits that actually don't apply to argentines, and especially to my province's people, in general sad, introverted because of the mountains and the temperate-cold climate. they think I'm "caliente", I dance salsa, I arrive late and a large etcetera. actually, I laugh often because of such comments.
Great video! And nice choice of outro music with Rodrigo y Gabriela👌🏼
Great job as always Mason. I have a lot of appreciation for your nuances, from a melting pot of a person in Brazil.
Race is WWWAAAAAAYYYYY more complex in Latin America than it'll EVER be here in the states. I'm interested in Peru & Mexico, as the ones to hold the most amount of ruins and the oldest civilizations of Latin America, and I'm interested in Ecuador (because I have been there).
Well done! I want to give some of my story as I find it a fascinating case study and I want to hear your input (also this will practically be a novel so have fun). I was born in a primarily Hispanic area of the United States and by that I mean that if you wanted you could live in said area and never speak a word of English if you wished. My mother, who lived in Mexico for a while and spoke fluent Spanish (and I know many are a little skeptical but she spoke what sounded like native speaker Spanish it was bizarre) and was an elementary school teacher for Spanish speaking students- as in she taught in Spanish. So when I was born she only ever spoke to me in Spanish and spent a long long time making sure I was raised and socialized amongst Spanish speaking people. She volunteered as a teacher with a playgroup of specifically native Spanish speaking parents and their kids and I played with their kids. I think it’s important to note now that I am white- Protestant, northwest European, pretty standard- so I stuck out. But I didn’t know anything other than speaking Spanish. It was only later, after I started elementary school at an immersion school, that I learned that a white blonde haired blue eyed Spanish speaking native was not “normal”. My class was split up into two groups: Spanish speaking “Latino people” and English speaking Spanish ignorant white people. And then there was me.
And that’s always been me. I know there are other white Hispanics but most of them trace ancestry back to a latinamerican country or Spain, but I don’t. Sometimes I wonder where this leaves me. I’m not Latino, not at all, but I meet a lot of the criteria for Hispanic. Does anyone else have an experience like this or have a name for people like me? I’m just curious!
Back in elementary school we used to identify people just as "Mexican" or "not Mexican" and I remember in like 3rd grade I got paired up with this guy who's last name was "Munoz" and I was looking around the class for like 5 minutes when the whitest kid in the room came up to me. My entire worldview was shattered.
If you want to see more people like you, look at North of Spain and Portugal those places were heavily colonized by Germanics tribes like suevos And Visigoths.
It's weird for me as a white Brazilian watch American movies because Everytime they showed a Latino, they show someone who look much more like native Americans or middle Easterners than a Latino. I truly believe it's a big shock to the average American, when they travel to Mexico and see the movies make by the progressive hoolywood was showing a stereotype the all Time. A stereotype create in the middle ages that says the Germanic and Anglo Saxons was superior to Spaniards because they live side by side with the Islamists and Jews, A big reason why the Spain Inquisition happened.
@Soja So jajajajajajajaja WTF did I just read, as a Spaniard that was the most idiotic comment I have ever read regarding my country, you must be an american "white nationalist", you have no idea how diverse we are in Spain.
1. A spaniard from Andalucía looks nothing like a Gallego, Vasco, Catalan or Canario. People from Asturias and Galicia mostly have a celtic look, in Las Palmas de la Gran Canaria they look exactly like mixed south americans, and in Aragón, Comunidad Valenciana and Cataluña the visigoth look predominates. And she definitely looks northern european, she will never pass as a Spaniard, but many mixed latin americans do.
2. The accent you mostly dislike is not native american fool it comes from Extremadura, Palmas de la Gran Canaria and some regions of Andalucía, like Granda. But since you are a moron and ignorant american you don't know that. In these places we pronounce the Z and S the same and use an older castellano version, just like south americans. The reason is because the first spaniards to arrive in the américas came from these regions. In fact the only Argentinians that speak with Italian accent are Porteños, people that live in Buenos Aires, in other regions they speak very similar to Peruvians, but since you are a racist asshole you believe everything you read in your stormfront page.
3. Most spaniards do not consider a mistake extending our family, culture, and language (castellano) into south american, it is you americans that have destabilized these regions in the last century for your own gain. In fact many spanish men are mixing with latinas in huge numbers and I am not joking, mostly because of family values. We are getting more close as time passes, let that sink into your inbred skull.
4. The "spanish language" doesn't technically exist it is CASTELLANO. It is like naming the English language as "British".
Then you are hispanic, it is the values you grow with not race. We iberians were conquered by many tribes, our ancestry is very mixed just like south americans, but our values and traditions are very similar. You probably have the idiosyncrasy of an iberoamerican women so you are hispanic.
@Soja So @Soja So jajajajajajajaja WTF did I just read, as a Spaniard that was the most idiotic comment I have ever read regarding my country, you must be an american "white nationalist", you have no idea how diverse we are in Spain.
1. A spaniard from Andalucía looks nothing like a Gallego, Vasco, Catalan or Canario. People from Asturias and Galicia mostly have a celtic look, in Las Palmas de la Gran Canaria they look exactly like mixed south americans, and in Aragón, Comunidad Valenciana and Cataluña the visigoth look predominates. And she definitely looks northern european, she will never pass as a Spaniard, but many mixed latin americans do.
2. The accent you mostly dislike is not native american fool it comes from Extremadura, Palmas de la Gran Canaria and some regions of Andalucía, like Granda. But since you are a moron and ignorant american you don't know that. In these places we pronounce the Z and S the same and use an older castellano version, just like south americans. The reason is because the first spaniards to arrive in the américas came from these regions. In fact the only Argentinians that speak with Italian accent are Porteños, people that live in Buenos Aires, in other regions they speak very similar to Peruvians, but since you are a racist asshole you believe everything you read in your stormfront page.
3. Most spaniards do not consider a mistake extending our family, culture, and language (castellano) into south american, it is you americans that have destabilized these regions in the last century for your own gain. In fact many spanish men are mixing with latinas in huge numbers and I am not joking, mostly because of family values. We are getting more close as time passes, let that sink into your inbred skull.
4. The "spanish language" doesn't technically exist it is CASTELLANO. It is like naming the English language as "British".
I'll throw another wrench. Portuguese in its beginnings both linguistically and ethnically were just abother group of "Spanish Galicians" before Portuguese as a language diverged more into what it is today.
I own centuries old copies of old Portuguese and it reads so similar to Spanish and Galician.
Many whites in Latin america have Portuguese and Spanish in their DNA results which I myself have. Many don't consider Brazilians Hispanics but many of our whites are Spanish Portuguese when theyre from founding families or early colonizers.
We also have til this day large concentrations of first and second generation Spaniards in Brazil or children of other south Americans in Brazil who Speak both languages.
So what are they according to Americans?
Masaman, are you familiar with GEDmatch genetic calculators? According to GEDmatch, Spanish and Portuguese dedicate 50% of their autosomal DNA to non Mediterranean/non Africa/non Asian markers, mostly Celtic with some Germanic. In comparison, English and North Germans have 75% non Mediterranean autosomal DNA. Interestingly, in southern Europe, only the North of Italy has 50% non Mediterranean DNA, with the Central and South of Italy as well as Greece having about 25-35% non Mediterranean DNA. With Spain and Portugal being litterally half Mediterranid and half Celtic/Germanic, should it even be considered Southern Europe? Also why is it that northern Italy, being far more geographically north and closer to France and Germany, not have more non Mediterranean DNA like its cousins south in Spain and Portugal?
The answer is in the history of Iberia,, but since you are the genius video maker, please make a video about this!
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Visigoths, Vandals, and Suevi are northern Germanic peoples originally from Modern Day Sweden and Germany they migrated to Eastern Europe then Migrated into Iberia (Spain and Portugal) (also took the Alans an Iranian people with them) towards the end of the Western Roman Empire. Many words like Queso (Keez) or Alto (Halt) come from Germanic origins some names too like Enrique (Heinrich, Henry) Guillermo (Wilhelm, William) Adolfo (Adolf) Griselda and even the directions of Norte/North, Sur/South, Este/East and Oeste/West are Germanic in origins opposed to Latin directions like Oriente and Occidente.
@@xochiltepetzalailhuicamina2322 Yes and words like Guerra (war) and my favorite, Faca (Knife). I have always wondered where all these interesting words have come from in Portuguese growing up. Germanic influence is evident! Also, of the 50% non Mediterranean, 10% is "baltic" also considered Germanic. We are talking about ancient DNA of course
@@ntrakstudio The Goths (Visigoths) are supposedly originally Southern Sweden like gotland and Vastergotland, the Suevi are thought to be Northern Swedish or Swiss and Vandal/Wends are thought to be from Northeastern Germany and Modern Day Poland. So there is definitely some Germanic blood in Spanish or Portuguese peoples.
The Lombards or Langobeards are a germanic tribe that invaded Northern Italy aparts from the Ostrogoths.
I’m Mexican, but a lot of People in southern Mexico think I’m some sort of Spaniard or that I have Spanish background. I’m not. When I lived in the Mexican Caribbean, in Quintana Roo, Yucatán peninsula, I felt like I was living in a different country. Never could I assimilate with the locals. Turists there also thought I was a tourist from some European country like Portugal, Spain, Italy and even Greece? (Wtf). I consider myself a common dude in my hometown, but in the rest of my country I’m a stranger apparently.
Usecriticalthinking I am, indeed. Did you visit or did you notice from Massaman’s map?lol
David Cervantes I’m from Sinaloa and have traveled extensively throughout the Mexican Northwest (Sonora and Baja California) and have realized that the majority of the population does possess strong Mediterranean phenotypes and, thus, look like Cypriots, Greeks, Turks, Italians and darker Spaniards. So yes, indeed, living on the Yucatán peninsula, where the majority of the population is of indigenous descent with a mostly indigenous phenotype, you would feel out of place and look foreigner.
DNA is strong, you not being native like them is what made you feel out of place even tho they are from the same country
@@FernandoGonzalez-tu8vn I’m pretty sure it's not just ethnicity, but also culture what plays an important role there.
I am of Cuban ancestry (mestizo) and born and raised in Miami which obviously has a huge "latino" population. I agree 100% with what you're saying and I've been saying this stuff almost all my life. I've gotten so much opposition and even hatred from other "Latino" people who think that either I'm wrong, stupid or ashamed of my heritage.
arent most cubans spaniards(darker white ppl)? nice dark hair, a bit tan skin, brown eyes. yes, I love Scarface
Excellent video and amazing work as always!
I'm British. I decided to educate myself about what is meant by Latino and Hispanic in US demographics.
1. These terms only apply to people living in USA. A Mexican in Mexico isn't a Latino if he stays in Mexico.
2. A Spaniard living in USA is Hispanic but not Latino.
3. A Brazilian living in USA is Latino but not Hispanic.
4. A Portuguese person living in USA is neither Hispanic nor Latino.
5. The terms are defined as ethnicities but refer to language and not race.
6. If native American from Latin America settles in USA they are considered Latino, even if they speak an Amerindian language rather than a Latin language.
7. A lot of Americans, perhaps most, don't understand the term Latino, and think it means mestizo.
To elaborate further, there is no typical Hispanic/Latino appearance. For instance, an Argentine could be of Irish descent, a Cuban of Syrian descent, a Mexican of Scottish descent, and so forth. I kid you not that most Americans would be shocked, seeing an Irish girl speaking Spanish 😂😂
@@tayirnull1567 a friend of mine is Irish. Her parents are Chinese. She spent some time in America after university, as many young Irish people do. She told me that she would be accused of putting on her Irish accent. She also had Americans who had never been to Ireland but claim to be Irish, telling her they are more Irish than she is.
@@andread5614 if you live in USA you are hispanic because you come from a Spanish speaking country and latino because you come from a Latin American country. If you live in Argentina you are neither hispanic nor latino. I expect Argentina has its own way of categorising people.
@@chesterdonnelly1212 Certainly any country have a smarter way to categorize people. But in my opinion, in 2019 I think we are in an age where we don't need to keep putting labels to peopl (which either way is quite confusing and diverse according to where you live anyways). Countries as France for example and plenty of others don't ask about ethnicity in National Census but only for Nationality and I think Religion. I think that's more than enough. Even hispanic as a cultural term makes little to none sense in the US, maybe only if they speak about Mexico. But hardly a Dominican and a Spaniard or a Puerto Rican and an Uruguayan for example have more in common for being what in the US named hispanic as culture or race than let's say Spain and Portugal or France.
@@andread5614 I totally agree. I researched this to understand it, but I don't think it really makes much sense. In Spain they categorise people as Spaniards and immigrants. So if your nationality is Spanish your race and ancestry is not important. The government does record where the immigrants come from.
I'm British and this does make me wonder why do I have to put my race on the census and also when I apply for jobs? How is that relevant or useful information for anything?
Been here since the mexico video this channel has blown me away every single time since then.
🙏🏻 finally someone who “gets it”. It’s been a point of frustration for me ever since I immigrated to North America 23 years ago. My first “encounter” with this obsession of classifying people by race and ethnicity and the ludicrous Latino/Hispanic terms was in 1996 when filling out a form at a Florida high school, as my English wasn’t the best back then someone at the registration office was helping me fill it out so when it came to the question about race the secretary had already checked off the box for WHITE then came a question about place of birth, when I responded Brazil she went back to the race question erased the check mark ✅ in the box for WHITE and put a check in the box for HISPANIC 🤣 in reality, no one sees me as anything other than white as I’m as white as white can be and my last name is German but every time I mention I was born in Brazil people seem to panic and say stupid things like I don’t look Brazilian or because of my last name they’ll ask me if I’m part German part Brazilian 😂🤣 when I answer that I’m actually part German part Italian they’ll say things like oh so you’re not really Brazilian 🤬 my answer is always yes I am as Brazilian as any other person born in Brazil I just happen to be born to a German dad and an Italian mother what’s so freaking difficult to understand? As you mention in your video North Americans have no issue understanding the complexities of the demographics in North America why is it so difficult for them to understand that not everything and everyone south of the American/Mexico border the same? Even culturally we’re not the same, I don’t see any similarities between Uruguay and let’s say Guatemala apart from the language being spanish. Is Canada and Jamaica the same because both speak English?!? Yes a big chunk of people in South America has a mixed back ground but so do people in North America and no one lumps them all together with other groups of people who happen to also have been born in North America. There are people in South America who are only native or only Asian or only African or only European and they’re proud of their home countries and their ancestry. I find it very disrespectful when someone shrugs off the things that make who you are based on sheer ignorance. I mean if you’re going to discriminate and label people at least do it right cause as it is it makes North Americans look both racists and stupid. I’ve traveled a lot and have met people from all over, no one else but North Americans seem to obsess so much about these things and get it so wrong in the case of central and South America.
Jajajaj yo soy de Costa Rica pero como les parezco muy blanco y muy alto se intentan inventar de dónde provengo..."hmm no no muchacho usted parece como ruso"....de verdad no entienden de qué va la cosa, es como que de verdad no pueden pensar por fuera del racismo
so i am guatemalan and i actually identify as indigenous mayan, not indian or native american, and not as Hispanic or latino. I can't speak my mother language but elders in my family can. i can speak spanish but i would gladly be able to speak my indigenous language rather than spanish because when the colonizers invaded us and brought their culture they basically eliminated most of our culture and that's why i cant speak my native language and have a spanish last name. i solely identify as indigenous mayan because i am trying to reclaim my identity now and not identify with labels after "colonization"
It's a very hard distinction. I'm Honduran
and my DNA test =
Indigenous: 28%
Spanish: 29%
Italian: 20%
British: 8%
Scott-Irish:6%
African: 8%
Neat did you have an American ancestor?
@@awlkdural5396 as in from Canada or the US? Don't think so. .
@@mariocobos2001 I wonder where the scots-irish and british came from
Awlkd Ural I think it may come from either the Caribbean since I have African mix too. Or- Spanish mixed before they migrated to the New World.
you can say the N word then
The thing about Honduras is that the islands over there are mostly of people of British descent. They even still speak English over there too. So it's kinda confusing.
Latino and Hispanic are LINGUISTIC terms, not RACIAL or SOCIOECONOMIC terms.
Hispanic = Spanish speaker
Latino = Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, French, Romanian, and any other Latin derived language speaker
Latin American = Brazileans, and any Spanish and French speakers from the Americas.
Polish language uses Latin alphabet, so I am a Latino as well.
@Tew massa Latino is a colloquial contraction of the Spanish word Latino Americano. But the formal and more actual definition is anyone who speaks a language of Latin origin. The US census adopted the colloquial term from the Latin Americans, but believe it or not, the Latin Americans got the term Latin America from the French. Napoleon III popularized the term in the Americas to promote brotherhood between Portuguese, Spanish and French colonies in the Americas, so he could claim Mexico as a French colony. In all realness, this term needs revision from the Latin Americans, who successfully convinced the Americans that Latinos are just Latin Americans, and, thus, American media convinced the rest of the world that Latinos are Latin Americans. As a Latin American myself, I despise how Latin Americans claim the word Latino for themselves and exclude the rest of the continents that speak a Latin derived language. In fact, Latin Europeans have more right to claim the word Latino as their own. The Latin language and culture was a Mediterranean one, founded in present day Italy, and not originally from the Americas, which had Amerindian culture. In Italian, the word Latino just means Latin, so Latin Americans claiming that Italians cannot use that word to describe themselves as the ancestors of the Romans is pretty ignornant.
@@Damio22yt No you are not. You are Slavic. You may use the Latin alphabet, but you don't speak a Latin derived language. If you learn a Latin derived language like Spanish, Portuguese or French to a fluent level, then you can gain your Latino citizenship. You don't have to be born Latino. You can certainly become one if you want to be and if you put the effort to respect and learn the language and culture. Btw, in my country of Argentina, we got a significant amount of Latino Poles.
Brazil has the largest Japanese descendants globally outside of Japan. They have made large contributions to Brazil and many in São Paulo have Japanese ancestry dating back a century. Surprised that wasn’t mentioned in the Brazil part.
This guy knows shit about Brazil, all his maps are wrong.
Latino is most likely derived from the Spanish "latinoamericano". Latino is not extended to cover "latin" languages but only covers people who speak Iberian languages: Spanish and Portuguese in the Americas.
How is it racist? Latinos are not a race. Italians are not a race. How is it culture appropriation? Latinos all speak a dialect of Spanish or Portuguese but all have cultures that vary from each other.
You have one of the most interesting contents on YT, keep it up with the great work :D
Greetings from Brazil x
3:55 another good reason to remake the entire way the US census uses such terms.
@Mehmet Akif Aydoğdu I didn't mean that. What I meant was that no population outside Europe should be classified as white or caucasian, simple as.
@Mehmet Akif Aydoğdu Lol, isn't the answer obvious? Your a Turk, your ancestors were Asian, not European, simple.
@Mehmet Akif Aydoğdu I wasn't classifying you by slin tone...smh. I was classifying you by your origin andno your not white. Anymore than Obama would be considered white just because hes half white.
@Mehmet Akif Aydoğdu Lol, we can actually agree there.
@@manyarcin4216 it's an opinion dude, you dont have to agree. It's my point of view, also Turks dont have their origins in Europe, hence why I dont call them white, same with Roma gypsies and middle easterners too.
As a southamerican myself, I gotta say you made a great video. This is a touchy subject in the "latin" world, since the mass media supports the idea that, to the south of the US, we're "all the same". I agree that the concept is based on geography and not on "race", but it still has a racist background. To support this statement you made, I have an example. In the mid '60s, my grandfather's brother (we would say "granduncle") migrated to the US. He and his family (sons, grandsons) are considered "white", but if I go to the US, coming from the same family, I would be considered "latino". The thing with the "latino" term is that it comes with a cultural prejudice. Since we're "latinos", we are expected live in hot places, listen to caribbean music, eat mexican food, basically have the same culture, and, when it comes to the US politics, vote for the same candidate. This couldn't be less true, as you may imagine.
As a conclusion, I'll tell you an anecdote, when Paul McCartney came to play in my city, La Plata, he did it on winter, it was at night and it was raining, as a result it was like 3° Celsius. Paul McCartney was playing with just a shirt, freezing, when suddenly he said he didn't have warm clothing cause when he thought about Southamerica, all he knew was hot weather and tropical beaches.
What an ass lol. Not only him. There were probably dozens of people assisting him during the tour, and not even one told him it would be cold? 😕
Very interesting as usual Maseman 👍👍👍
Thank you so much for making this video Masaman. Since I was born in and grew up in the USA with Mexican parents and grandparents the USA’s conception of race and ethnicity has always baffled me.
Every time I try to explain my view to my American friends they have almost always treated my view with confusion and suspicion. I think this is mostly due to the heavy politicization race and ethnicity have in the US that it tends to have an obfuscating effect on demographic history. Anytime I try to explain to my northern American friends my views on “Latino/Hispanic” I just send them your videos now lol
I like the analysis, but we all know that race is about social hierachy, its about u look like and your treated accordingly.
Germanic speaking people are Germanic
Slavic speaking people are Slavic
So should Latin/Romance speaking people be called Romanic?
We're Latins, not "Latinos" which is nonsensical.
Italic peoples. We speak Italic languages.
Latin means italian ,spainsh ,italian .romanian latino means the romance languages of the Americas primerarly spanish portuguese
Thank you for all the hard work and research.
Thank you, Masaman. I love this video. As someone that is Hispanic/Latino, it really is something else now when I hear the terms spoken. Yes, most fellow Americans think of Hispanic/Latino as a race, including those who are Hispanic/Latino. For a while I would refer to it as an ethnicity/ethnic group, but that is also incorrect, though, race still takes the cake.
The biggest reason, I think, why Hispanic/Latino is so ignorantly defined & used is because of the poison that is politics. You also have to factor in the the charged racist past with regard to "white" & "black".
The messed up racial definitions continue today, as I mentioned, because of politics.
Your videos do a lot of great work, Masaman. Keep up & God bless!
Fascinating...good idea to clear this up a little. Like usual, a few ideas for the future:
1. Why is Equatorial Guinea the only Spanish speaking country in Africa?
2. Chimane (Tsimane) Tribe of Bolivia-the healthiest people in the world?
3. Do a similar video with this format for how the Inuit people's in Northern North America overlap in many ways; it can help deter the derogatory term "Eskimo"
4. Something Hong Kong and Macau related given the news. Also, who lives on the Parcel and Spralty Islands?
5. What's the oldest country in the world? A deeper look at the Serene Republic of San Marino
6. Western Sahara/Sahrawi Republic Movement Explained
7. (My reiterations)
8. Most obscure ethnic immigrant groups in the USA (ex. Liechtensteiner Americans, etc.) *I use the term 'obscure' not offensively, but to denote ethnic divisions in the USA that are more uncommon to the average American
9. Dinetah-the Navajo homeland in the four corners region of the Western USA and other Native American territories and states in history and in modern times (Republic of Lakotah would be good in this one)
10. Rich ethnic heritages of New England and Maritime Providences of Canada
How about a video of the Jalisco región of Mexico and the contrasts between different Mexicans
Yea my mom is from there she's a Hispanic Ginger with freckles all over her face. She tells me her phenotype is not too uncommon there.
@@Osomsauce my grand parents where from there too, and you are correct about the ginger thing lots of blue eyed Spaniards
U do it fool... theres almost no way masa can do any research about the region unless he is literally in the gdl library.
Im glad you included a graph on the genetic makeup of the average person in their respective country, i've been trying to find one for awhile now
My opinion:
Latino: a person from part of the Americas that have have historical, and cultural ties any itallic peoples
Hispanic: any area that's population was infulanced the Spanish or Portugese
Not useful terms but I feel like those make the most sense
I would make a small correction. A person from an area of the Americas influenced by Italic or Latin peoples is not a "Latino", but a "Latin" and more specifically, "Latin American". "Latino" is a term loaded with a confusing meaning and it doesn't belong to English.
I'm glad someone is finally exposing this
Haiti is actually the FIRST Latin American country. It refers to countries colonized by Latin Europe. Haitians are Latin American the same way black Dominicans, Colombians or a native Maya from Guatemala are. We just don't call ourselves "latino" because that's dumb. Latin America is just a region. It's not meant to be used as a race or people group.
@ I don't give a fuck about "latin" organizations. That isn't our identity. Latins live in Latium, Italy. Everyone else calling themselves latin/latino are wannabes
In the US, there is a compulsion to drop people into a box and stamp a label on them. That obsession with categorizing people based on an intellectually lazy judgement of outward appearances has made them socially ignorant nitwits.
"socially ignorant nitwits" describes the vast majority of U.S. Americans and American politicians from both political parties want to keep it that way at all costs.
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its prey much the same as saying hey angloamericans since they are pretty much fewer countries 🙄
I’m from Argentina and I think that to use that label racially is so stupid 🤦🏽♀️ and disingenuous and actually portrays how little do Americans care to understand their southern neighbours
Thank you Mason, this was excellent. You explained that very astutely.
I'm from San Antonio and when someone says someone 'looks Hispanic' nine to eight times out of ten, they mean they look Mestizo or Native
Because most hispanics that go there are mexicans or salvis which are mainly mestizo
Great video as allways masaman!
Im a latin american whith nordic, jewish, german, polish, spanish and italian descend. Despite this i fully embrace the latin american identy to describe miself over my national identity (argentinean) for my the latin american identity has more to do with a social condition of living in a region with similar socio-economics problems, cultural hierachys and same geo-political orientation than race or ethnicity
Can you make a video on how ethnic groupings are defined? As in what is an ethnic group, how is it different than a cultural/racial group, in cases of adoption what is the ethnic group, etc, exploring similar questions and edge cases :)
That's a great idea, and one I've wanted to do for years, but I didn't think anyone would care. Perhaps I will elaborate in an upcoming video.
Love that you played Rodrigo y Gabriella at the end!
As a Brazilian I would stick with the 'Ibero-American' definition for countries down to Rio Grande.
Which not all of them are, like Belize, Suriname and Guyana
@@hieratics Exactly.
@@hieratics 68% of Brazilians is race Whites descendent of Germans italians and portuguese, 20% is browns, 😎
Great video!! I've been pointing out all these inconsisant labels my whole life
I finally understand y in South park: the stick of truth game when I picked latino or Hispanic as my background it said something like "well that's not a race/group/ethnicity". I was so confused at the time. Now I'm a bit less confused and more confused at the same time. If that make sense
USA complicates it. "Latin" America is mostly European of origin around 65 percent, The USA has around 70-75 percent of European origin. And somehow they consider Latinos as another race. Mind-boggling
4:14 my Favorite Miss Universe Brazil 2015 is German Brazilian background she looks like her U.S. candidate (Anglo American background) is considered Non-Hispanic White or White Hispanic but for me she is Non-Hispanic white because many Anglo Americans are look like her her Canadian counterpart is more Latino because she was born in Dominican Republic and more non Anglo looking than Miss Brazil 2015
Great video as always! I've often considered this question "what is Hispanic/Latino". I'm white, completely German background, but speak Spanish fluently, so this has been on my mind for most of the past 30-odd bilingual/bi-cultural years. 1) You should do a whole video on the Philippines. The Philippines was under Spanish colonial control for 377 years. Although it wasn't as mixed as the Americas, still there was a lot of intermixing over the centuries. There is a lot of Spanish vocabulary in Tegalog and Ilocano, as well as in the other languages spoken in the south of the archipelago. The surnames are quite often Spanish in origin. There was always major amounts of sea traffic between the ports of Manila and Acapulco , New Spain (Mexico), so I'm sure there are folks in the Acapulco who might not even be aware of their Filipino ancestry!
2) I have many Argentinian friends, some with deep roots in Argentina, others of more recent arrival. They all identify as being Argentinian, regardless of ethnic background. If, for example, a person is born in Argentina but ALL their ancestry comes from the Urkaine, or Switzerland, are they considered "Latino"? (a confusion when filling out a US census form, for sure).
3) Very distant relatives with my same surname are Brazilians, in the south. They know all their ancestors are German of some variety. Would they be "Latinos"? If one doesn't fit the precise box of Latino being of Spanish ancestry in some way or another, it then becomes very confusing, no? Keep up these fascinating videos!
My Filipino grandfather was born when the Philippines was still a Spanish colony. He was a fluent Spanish speaker since Spanish was then an official language. Would he be considered a Hispanic? Incidentally, his uncle became the first Philippine president who started the Philippine revolution against Spain in 1898 and later on started the Philippine American war in 1899. When the Philippines became an American colony, his uncle sent my grandfather to study at the University of Southern California (USC) here in Los Angeles where he graduated with a law degree in 1915. He went back to the Philippines and became a banker. He was a 32 degree Mason (Scottish Rite) when he passed away in 1973.
I love this video! I am one of those half Mexican/ U.S. born in Mexico. My mom's family is mestizo, and my great grandfather was pure amerindian. My grandma married a man of Spanish descent and my mom married a caucasian American. Sometimes the three of us grandma/mom/me stand together for pictures and things, it looks like a printer ran out of ink. The only sad part is really the fact that my grandmother still holds some of the beliefs of the old Spanish caste system and therefore sometimes she brags about my being light.
the old spanish caste sytem? tell me a bit about that please :) im from north europe and I havent heard about it before
@@dttkku3954 Basically the Spanish conquistadors were trying to make the amerindians into Spaniards. They believed that a amerindian marrying a Spaniard was marrying up their child would be a mestizo a mix of both bloods, so such a person would be above the pure amerindian parent but below his Spanish parent in caste. Marriage to an African was lower still. Basically the more Spanish blood the higher in caste. The whole system was highly racist. The iberian Spanish were the highest, next were the creoles, those born in Mexico with two Spanish parents, followed by caustrizos, mixed whites, mestizos and so on. Most of Mexico absolutely ignores these things now but some rural places still prefer lighter skin. The reason this is still around is that the Spanish ruled Mexico for hundreds of years. Hope it helps. If you have anymore questions I'd be glad to answer.
They should just use Latino as a mixed race group with similar culture/ language and call it a day it’s not that deep and the majority of all Latinos tend to be a mix of native/European/African no matter the varying percentages.
Ur wrong not all of them are mixed
Your video should be used in American schools to instruct students and clarify the confusion and ignorance regarding this subject.
Great work!