That realtor’s estimates are about right. Good video because it is shows the difference of how real estate in Puerto Vallarta compares to different types of investments. This video has a great summary. Thank you Paul for being honest about our the realities of the Puerto Vallarta market.
Thank you very much, very interesting. Lot of information about the positive and negative aspects of the investment. the case study helps and the figures are very clear and conservative
Good coverage of the PVR market. I would just say a few things about Nayarit. San Pancho is as expensive as Sayulita and all the good property has been developed on. Lo De Marcos doesn't have the hippie boho culture of San Pancho and Sayulita. Mostly older retirees so I don't think it can compete with them. Best place to invest now is between Punta Mita and Sayulita. That corridor is not developed yet but will be in the next five years.
Super helpful video. Subscribed! Looking to invest in Puerto Vallarta, Tulum, Playa Del Carmen, or Puerto Escondido. I'll be digging into your resources!
Well balanced video. We have two houses in PV and love them. Traditional houses are much more cost effective. Taxes on rental income would have a significant impact as well as capital gains. We live here for the lifestyle and love it. Thanks for the detailed video!
One area you can assess is El Caloso and surrounding colonias. This was a rough area of town, but is changing quickly and is close to the romantic zone. Decent upside here if you buy the right house.
I wonder, how many people purchased a place in Mexico, that borrowed against their home in US and Canada to be able to pay cash? Now, though, they have to refinance that mortgage at higher rates? Be interesting if those stats were available?
@@TheWanderingInvestor Isn't CaboSan Lucas even worse? I'd be curious to see your take on that place but tbh I feel it'd be a total waste of your time.
Great video. I am far from investing abroad but as someone living in Toronto I would not mind getting out ! I learnt a lot from this video and the agent was great. Subscribed!
This discussion is centered on the most in demand high life part of PV. The numbers vary massively depending on the neighborhood. The suburbs residential neighborhoods are much more affordable, safe, and there is ample inventory. Keep an open mind!
I have been there and I liked it and it looks like a retirement heaven for North Americans. There are beachfront condominiums full with Americans and in the restaurants on the beach there they speak to you in english. So if you don't mind the money it could be a good place to retire. Certainly also something for Digital Nomads but rather for short term visits.
Thank you for the video. I live in this region since 4 years, and I also work in real estate. For me there are better zones now in the area, where you can make a better deal. But I agree that Zona Romantica will be always almost rented out.
@@y2vvilliam it’s all in the article: thewanderinginvestor.com/international-real-estate/full-guide-to-making-a-real-estate-investment-in-puerto-vallarta/
Whenever someone compares things especially real-estate to the past 3 years, I personally think they are off.. The pandemic was a special time that was highly unusual. It makes me think they are trying to sell me a dream..
@@tw4943 Can you please be more specific about the information that you think they got wrong? I am really interested in PV as a retirement destination and it would be helpful to know those details. Thank you for any information.
What about investing in property around the Aijiic and Lake Chapala areas where there is also a large expat community? The weather is milder and purchasing a property with a trust is not necessary there? Also what about San Miguel de Allende?
@@TheWanderingInvestor what kind of lifestyle is that with that view? I would feel like a loser if I woke up and saw it every day I can feel like a loser for a small fraction of that money in most places
@@Kotiara123 then go somewhere else. The point is there is a strong market for it. For you & I? No. For many other people? Yes. PV is a big destination.
am I glad that I invested in Puerto Vallarta 14 years ago. I bought dir cheap. Probably a few more years for up trend. I see a lot more bumps moving in too. Maybe its time for me to exit.
@@TheWanderingInvestor No doubt. So why PV? What was different? I was in Mex this year (CDMX tour to Cancun). Message I got was they locked everyone up, masks etc and vxes etc
Mexico was completely Open "All Through The Lockdown" without any vax paperwork and without any testing. It was very very refreshing and established Mexico as a top travel destination. Their tourism numbers moved ahead of Thailand.
You said there is little downside Take a look at Acapulco which is a bit further south. This was a dream holiday destination for decades and suddenly became a hotbed of nacro violence where it's unsafe for anyone to visit Also, even if people are buying in cash, if there is an economic downturn and homeowners have liabilities in other markets - they are likely to sell their international properties to sure up their portfolio in their home market
Thanks for highlighting the Acapulco-like risk. As for the cash market element, I don’t say prices can’t go down, but they would go down much slower not as hard as in a market with a lot of leverage.
We are approaching the Golden Age Mexico knows what's going on the most with all the colorful buildings everything is frequencies and vibration just the colors alone change can heal a person change their moods and expand their consciousness the even understand that with the church bells and the church organs that they use a lot more often than North America that's why the vibration is always higher down there we need to think in terms of frequencies and vibration we are co-creators of the planet through meditation we can change the world just need to look at the positive all the time I'm looking at investing down there as well coming from Ontario I can't take the gray and brown subdivisions and extremely high prices my intuition is guiding me down there thank you for this wonderful video
For the people talking about the very high price of this apartment. PV is on the pacific coast and attracts many Californians . Its close to California by flight. People from California don't see $500k as a large amount to spend on real estate. Canadians also don't feel that $500K is a large amount to spend on real estate.
$2,500/mo for that place? What a rip! Not even on the beach. Only gringos paying that. That's why I stay out of the tourist trap cities. Much better investment opportunities in MZT if you want to invest in a beach city/vacation destination.
2500$ for that Apt per month is way over priced i would like to see proof that hes renting them for 2500$ i have seen property 2ber 2bath for 1200-1400 a month in PV
my friend bought a 2-bedroom in PV for $50K (of course not a gringo condo) but a home where locals live. These condos are massively overpriced to rob ignorant gringos.
That realtor’s estimates are about right. Good video because it is shows the difference of how real estate in Puerto Vallarta compares to different types of investments. This video has a great summary. Thank you Paul for being honest about our the realities of the Puerto Vallarta market.
I should come down there and start a Airbnb management company for all those Investments help peace of mind for the investors
my thoughts exactly...
Likely NOT as easy as you make it sound.
Thank you very much, very interesting. Lot of information about the positive and negative aspects of the investment. the case study helps and the figures are very clear and conservative
It’s BEAUTIFUL!! and worth it
Good coverage of the PVR market. I would just say a few things about Nayarit. San Pancho is as expensive as Sayulita and all the good property has been developed on. Lo De Marcos doesn't have the hippie boho culture of San Pancho and Sayulita. Mostly older retirees so I don't think it can compete with them. Best place to invest now is between Punta Mita and Sayulita. That corridor is not developed yet but will be in the next five years.
Thanks for your input 👍
Super helpful video. Subscribed! Looking to invest in Puerto Vallarta, Tulum, Playa Del Carmen, or Puerto Escondido. I'll be digging into your resources!
Thank you. Feel free to reach out to Luigi and/or Paul. I haven’t done Puerto Escondido yet though.
Thanks I'll be reaching out to Paul while I'm in PV in October@@TheWanderingInvestor
Well balanced video. We have two houses in PV and love them. Traditional houses are much more cost effective. Taxes on rental income would have a significant impact as well as capital gains. We live here for the lifestyle and love it. Thanks for the detailed video!
One area you can assess is El Caloso and surrounding colonias. This was a rough area of town, but is changing quickly and is close to the romantic zone. Decent upside here if you buy the right house.
@@LivingSimplyinMexico thanks for sharing 👍
I wonder, how many people purchased a place in Mexico, that borrowed against their home in US and Canada to be able to pay cash? Now, though, they have to refinance that mortgage at higher rates? Be interesting if those stats were available?
Why do they “have to” refinance again?
@@jasonhill9674 oops meant renew.
most informative and honest real estate evaluation. Very welll done and very usefull. Much appreciated.
Thank you
Ok, this is beach area, close to USA and etc but the price $0,5 mln for such property is too much I think
Puerto Vallarta is absolutely not cheap for sure
@@TheWanderingInvestor Isn't CaboSan Lucas even worse? I'd be curious to see your take on that place but tbh I feel it'd be a total waste of your time.
@@HoDLum Veery expensive. Lifestyle destination.
$500k is a pretty hefty sum of money. You can find new condos in Miami for that money
Yes
Great video. I am far from investing abroad but as someone living in Toronto I would not mind getting out ! I learnt a lot from this video and the agent was great. Subscribed!
This discussion is centered on the most in demand high life part of PV. The numbers vary massively depending on the neighborhood. The suburbs residential neighborhoods are much more affordable, safe, and there is ample inventory. Keep an open mind!
I have been there and I liked it and it looks like a retirement heaven for North Americans. There are beachfront condominiums full with Americans and in the restaurants on the beach there they speak to you in english. So if you don't mind the money it could be a good place to retire. Certainly also something for Digital Nomads but rather for short term visits.
What would be the difference between PV and Punta Cana in the Dominican Republic?
Thank you for the video. I live in this region since 4 years, and I also work in real estate. For me there are better zones now in the area, where you can make a better deal. But I agree that Zona Romantica will be always almost rented out.
Thanks. Yes, I agree. The article I wrote analyses neighbourhoods with more upside such as Versalles, etc
Better area like Versailles and Fluvial?
@@y2vvilliam it’s all in the article: thewanderinginvestor.com/international-real-estate/full-guide-to-making-a-real-estate-investment-in-puerto-vallarta/
Whenever someone compares things especially real-estate to the past 3 years, I personally think they are off.. The pandemic was a special time that was highly unusual. It makes me think they are trying to sell me a dream..
This is most certainly the case😂 there is alot of wrong info
@@tw4943 Can you please be more specific about the information that you think they got wrong? I am really interested in PV as a retirement destination and it would be helpful to know those details. Thank you for any information.
@@tw4943?
Is the weather in PV as hot and humid in the summer months as some have said making it really uncomfortable for year round living?
It’s definitely very hot and humid in the Summer
What about investing in property around the Aijiic and Lake Chapala areas where there is also a large expat community? The weather is milder and purchasing a property with a trust is not necessary there? Also what about San Miguel de Allende?
Nothing inherently wrong with these areas. Many people are moving there indeed.
480k for this apartment is a bit too much?
I wouldn’t invest there as a pure investment. It’s ultimately a lifestyle decision.
@@TheWanderingInvestor what kind of lifestyle is that with that view? I would feel like a loser if I woke up and saw it every day I can feel like a loser for a small fraction of that money in most places
@@Kotiara123 then go somewhere else. The point is there is a strong market for it. For you & I? No. For many other people? Yes. PV is a big destination.
@@TheWanderingInvestorwhy you are not ?
am I glad that I invested in Puerto Vallarta 14 years ago. I bought dir cheap. Probably a few more years for up trend. I see a lot more bumps moving in too. Maybe its time for me to exit.
@@cryptobuilder well done!
Why would the 'anti-vaxer type' go to PV?
Because it’s not Canada
@@TheWanderingInvestor No doubt. So why PV? What was different? I was in Mex this year (CDMX tour to Cancun). Message I got was they locked everyone up, masks etc and vxes etc
Mexico was completely Open "All Through The Lockdown" without any vax paperwork and without any testing. It was very very refreshing and established Mexico as a top travel destination. Their tourism numbers moved ahead of Thailand.
You said there is little downside
Take a look at Acapulco which is a bit further south. This was a dream holiday destination for decades and suddenly became a hotbed of nacro violence where it's unsafe for anyone to visit
Also, even if people are buying in cash, if there is an economic downturn and homeowners have liabilities in other markets - they are likely to sell their international properties to sure up their portfolio in their home market
Thanks for highlighting the Acapulco-like risk. As for the cash market element, I don’t say prices can’t go down, but they would go down much slower not as hard as in a market with a lot of leverage.
RIP Acapulco.
@@Thomas_Hardy. 😢
there are too many STR ( Airbnb's ) here already . 8,000 abnb doors now . too competitive at this point.
no way that apartment would rent for $2500/month for a 12-month lease. $1600~$1700 would be highest for that apartment.
Love PV. Still there? Bullish Mexico too. Here in Zapopan with the woman (Mexicana)
Nice. Not there anymore. Spending Summer in Montenegro
@@TheWanderingInvestor Ah sounds awesome Take Care man
Hola Mi Nombre es fabrizio Robles. Me puedes ayudar en vender 4 departamertos . En la 5 de diciembre Puerto Vallarta
Can you do a video on Beirut, Lebanon please
On my to do list
We are approaching the Golden Age Mexico knows what's going on the most with all the colorful buildings everything is frequencies and vibration just the colors alone change can heal a person change their moods and expand their consciousness the even understand that with the church bells and the church organs that they use a lot more often than North America that's why the vibration is always higher down there we need to think in terms of frequencies and vibration we are co-creators of the planet through meditation we can change the world just need to look at the positive all the time I'm looking at investing down there as well coming from Ontario I can't take the gray and brown subdivisions and extremely high prices my intuition is guiding me down there thank you for this wonderful video
PV is such a beautiful place, it's too bad it is being ruined by all those concrete high rises. Taking away the Mexican cultural for greed.
They need to upgrade the airport. It is brutal getting through immigration and, even worse, customs. I go twice a year and it is nearly always awful.
Yes. This revamp and expansion they are doing is overdue.
For the people talking about the very high price of this apartment. PV is on the pacific coast and attracts many Californians . Its close to California by flight. People from California don't see $500k as a large amount to spend on real estate. Canadians also don't feel that $500K is a large amount to spend on real estate.
Not important for the video but we walked past each other in Emiliano Zapata. :D
😅😅🍻
$2,500/mo for that place? What a rip! Not even on the beach. Only gringos paying that. That's why I stay out of the tourist trap cities. Much better investment opportunities in MZT if you want to invest in a beach city/vacation destination.
2500$ for that Apt per month is way over priced i would like to see proof that hes renting them for 2500$ i have seen property 2ber 2bath for 1200-1400 a month in PV
half a million dollars for a small apartmene??? it is a joke!!!!!!!!
my friend bought a 2-bedroom in PV for $50K (of course not a gringo condo) but a home where locals live. These condos are massively overpriced to rob ignorant gringos.