Church Multi-Camera Streaming Setup feat. Bethel Production
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In this video, you'll get an in-depth look at the camera setup Bethel Production uses to capture worship every Sunday.
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0:00 Intro
2:19 Camera Plot
2:36 Camera Bodies
4:03 Camera Lens and Rigging
8:30 Training Volunteers
12:04 Outro
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My unsolicited/unprofessional advice: don’t drop a chunk of change on cameras and lenses without good lighting.
THIS!!! Great Advice! Our number one rule is to light for Video first, then the room. We also light cinematically so lighting is key!
@@ChadVegas i
Thanks so much for the videos on Bethel! Love them! I have always wondered how they do their production and now with these and their official production channel, it's so helpful. I appreciate all you're doing for us, Jake!
I have always been a big fun of Bethel and their production. Thanks for taking me closer to them
Thank you for this! Great information presented in a streamlined way!
Thanks for doing this bro. I've learned so much from the two other Bethel videos you posted. Gonna run this one back a few times. Super thankful for the work ya'll are doing.
I think I'm crying. It's that nice
Absolutely love these series on Production.
Watching from Northeast India, Nagaland.
I always wondered how this stuff works! Thanks for this video!
Thank you. Peace&Blessings
LOVE IT (From Chile 🇨🇱)
Glad to be here
10:20 i love that. that is how a good supervisor is and how he/she guides his/her team
Our church took a course with Chad Vegas (the video director at Bethel) and they have taught us so much about areas, switching, movement, and just how to look as good as Bethels stream.
This is awesome.
We've been trying to get the best value out of our production equipment and this video helps tremendously! So excited to keep growing online as a church
So exciting to here
Thanks..God bless you..
Very useful information..
This is perfect for me, our church just ordered a camera and wants to use multiple POV. Thanks so much!!
Awesome!
Very cool. We are going the PTZ route as we have a traditional new england church building so space is limited. We also have limited volunteers so PTZ allows us to have one camera operator for all views.
Good work
GREAT
Just recently upgraded our church production by $80,000+ can’t wait till everything comes in!!
Wow, that's quite a substantial jump.
Wow!!!
Pls I’d love to connect with you! So I can glean from your experience upon upgrade
We're spending $140K and I'm waiting on the last six parts out of 127 unique items. And it may be another month...
Brent Jenkins wow! That’s more than our building cost 🥶🥶
Thank you for this series, it has really helped open our eyes to better ways of doing things, even on a much smaller budget. We just made the commitment to upgrade to a Living as One streaming solution thanks to seeing it used frequently in the various churches you visit both large and small. Ours is definitely on the smaller side but we are confident that it is going massively improve the reliability of our live streams. That has probably been the biggest struggle with our last few streaming solutions.
I tapped the like button, I didn’t want to break my display. 🤣
I think this video is more of a top level overview, rather than a deep dive into their setup. If you’re common to the production world you’ll recognize some of the EF lenses just by looking at them, but I would’ve loved a more in-depth look at their broadcast lenses and why they chose them, camera connectivity, their choices for wireless HD on stage, and even color profiles/LUT choices. Obviously this will change for each church depending on lighting, distance, etc...but knowing their approach could prove useful. Either way, Always enjoy you giving us a closer look at Bethel’s setup! Thanks 🙏🏽
EF primarily because we're doing a more cinematic approach to broadcasting and are lighter/cheaper than your Cinema lenses. We only use a few ENG lenses. One being our main follow (Canon HJ40) and the other for the jib (Canon HJ16). All cams but 2 are SDI hardlined. Cinegear Ghost Eye 600 for wireless. No LUT just extended video profile. We light for video first then the room. You can find a lot more information on our BethelProduction.com site and we have some Q&A archives on our Instagram that has some info as well.
Chad Vegas YOU, Sir, are the man 🙌🏽 Appreciate you so much for taking the time out to provide additional info! Can’t thank you guys enough for all you do to resource the Kingdom, many blessings to you guys 🙏🏽
Canon cinema series camera are solid also.
Hi Jake!!! Lots of love from India. Please do a video on intercoms for multi camera production
If your church (or wherever you're doing the multi-cam setup) have some small audio mixer consoles laying around, wire a mic and some in-ear monitor amplifiers to them and they're a great cheaper alternative for the intercom. Do note that this probably only works if the cameras are staying in one place and are near to the tech booth (you'll need a longer cable for the IEM if you're doing this for handheld cam ops) My church used two HXR-NX5Rs rigged on a tripod so that we could do this setup.
@@abelsumanas thank's brother!
Thanks Jake, great content as usual. Are you able to list the specific video wireless system Bethel use? Or any cost effective video wireless system that you know of that you could recommend?
We use Cinegear Ghost Eye 600 for wireless. Another great alternative is Vaxis. I've also had some of my students have great success with Hollyland.
Looks good and we do multi-camera at my church BUT we don't want any cameras between the congregation and the stage.
It’s interesting though because in some of the music videos some of the cameras are shooting faster frame rates while others seem to be on a steady 24fps so I was hoping to hear why they have 2-3 cameras shooting at what looks like 60 and the others are at 24
ha! in our dreams...we are using sling studio - worked with a very limited budget.
Good afternoon. You can tell me the answer to such a question.
We have a ATEM Production Studio 4K.
We plan to buy four Blackmagic Ursa mini 4K EF cameras,
but there is a Blackmagic URSA Mini Pro 4.6 K EF G2 video camera on sale.
Is there a difference between these camera models in church video shooting?
(in worship video shooting)
You should contact Friends Church in Yorba Linda, CA to schedule an interview! I’d be happy to provide a contact.
Heres another note about the pocket cameras from BMD: they DO NOT have SDI ports. You'll need to purchase additional equipment to convert the signal for longer runs. SDI is a much more robust connection. I wouldn't trust anything else.
Exactly. Experimenting with 6ks for another department right now. Vmount battery with USB. HDMI jumper to a mounted converter. Power the converter with USB. One SDI out so there’s no strain on the HDMI.
@@michaeld723 Just to note that introducing a converter could mean exposing bad quality HDMIs. It produces static.
@@lisamedla Thats why you purchase quality HDMIs ;)
Hdmi over cat6 is garbage. So fussy unless you have a high power hdmi source like a pc graphics card.
Whats there wireless setup like what are they using ?
Hi, we just received our Pocket 4K and starting out single camera at the front. I am wondering if there are any preferred LUT's to use or acquire outside of the included LUTs, that'll give us that broadcast quality look? In our context, we aren't doing dark or low light; we are lights on all the time.
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Great review! Question: I use the HC-X2000 Camcorder to stream with Atem mini extreme by connecting it with an HDMI cable (I'm not in rec) after 5 minutes the camera turns off. How can I deactivate stand by. Thanks!
What zoom lens are you using for long-distance shots
Hey Jake! Do you happen to know/remember what kind of wireless transmitters they're using on their handheld cameras on stage? Thanks!
Hi ! Super interesting video ! How do you manage focus pulling on the crane/jib camera ? Is there only one operator for the jib ?
One op for the jib. They control focus via a remote on the handlebars
God bless you family. Cruz from Puerto Rico, I would like to know what equipment do I need to stream wireless from a Sony a6600. It’s for my church.
What’s the best video camera under 3500?
What dolly/track system is that? Been looking for a solid one for ages but haven’t found a great one yet
What kind of walkies and headsets do you guys use???
Really cool!
What track system is that?
Did you find out? I desperately want to know too
Thanks for this production. Are there possile solutions for completely wireless production camera system with transmitters. This is for placements on the roof or truss for aerial views indoors. Bottomline, i don't want to run cables at all to the production mixer. Any possibilities out there?
hey what do you use to communicate to your camera persons
What are they using to get their camera signal back to the switcher for the moving manned cameras?
All cams but 2 are Hardline SDI. The 2 wireless are on Cinegear Ghost Eye 600
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Thank you for these great videos! One question, What are your thoughts about the BM Studio Camera 4k 2? I don't have the budget for the Broadcast camera, but I would like color control for my cameras. Do you have any experience with the Studio Camera 4k 2? Thanks
Yeah... The color is great on them and would work well in a church environment... however, you would need to plug it in the wall or find a different power option as it drains through batteries really quick.
We have two of the studio cams. We have had them for two years I believe. They work, they don't work well depending on your style. Our style is much too quick and light levels change a lot. Those cameras do not do well at all with light shifts or lower lighting. But they do look clean.
@@justinlahiff1216 Uhhh... I don't agree with the low light. they do really well in those situations because they have so many stops
We have the studio 4K 2 and I would strongly recommend moving to the pocket 4K or 6k. They dynamic range and low light is better. You can preload your own luts you design for color and it has dual native iso that is much more precise. The studio 4k 2s are about 4 years older and the technology in the pocket 4ks / 6ks are dramatically better.
Pertaining to the crane shot, how is manual focus controlled? I didn't see any controls in the shots that I saw. Great video! Appreciate the tour!
Context: Right now I'm working on speccing a crane shot using a BMD Micro Studio Camera. I am struggling to figure out how to control zoom and focus. I was thinking about using a Lumix Vario PZ lens, that has motorized zoom and autofocus. I am worried about the autofocus going rouge and producing bad shots. Any advice with that? (I would love to use a B4 lens, but I am on a budget) Any help would be greatly appreciated. Awesome video again!
We have a broadcast eng lens on it and control it via controls. That said, There are times when we just put a wide prime on there 14mm and just set the focus during set up.
@@ChadVegas Thanks so much!
Wondering what the brand/model of the dolly setup is.
Did you find out? Desperately want to know too
Our church recently bought the canon xa 40 camcorder and wanted to see what you guys thought of it compared to the black magic pocket cinema 4k because they come in at a similar price
Yeah... I know what you mean about them being the same price but they aren't... The body for the BMPC4k is cheaper but then when you add lenses and tripods etc. It adds up to a-lot more. But I prefer the BMPC4k mainly because of the colours and low light situations. It has a better overall image
@@alivemusic9428 that is true,thanks for the insight man
@@timothyshibu3098 no problem
I would love to see how these production crews communicate. Production meetings and live situations. What equipment used to communicate that’s budget friendly. Any links would be appreciated.
You can watch our live multiview with coms on our Bethel Production TH-cam channel.
Chad Vegas awesome. There is a lot of content there. A LOT to look at. Thank you. What is the equipment used for communication with the production team?
@@tthomas9980 We use Clearcom Freespeak II for coms.
What LUT are they using on those cameras? Even with the ATEM they have you have to send image with the LUT.
No LUT. Just Extended Video Mode.
I read "handheld keys" and I was like, what?? They use a keytar??
What's the intercom kit they use?
Clear-com FreeSpeakII
What Jib/Crane is used here? Anyone have good sources to different brands/price points?
We use an old Jimmy Jib.
What sort of intercom do they use to communicate between camera operators?
Clearcom Freespeak II
Are their handhelds streaming to the console via Wi-Fi?
Cinegear Ghost Eye 600M units.
Good day sir
Sir please the Livestream of my church is very bad
How can we make it better
Great videos! But minor critique is equipment and level of setups getting beyond scope of smaller churches as far as ability or knowledge of video work and budget….. smaller churches I think more likely to watch these like myself, churches who using equipment in these videos have team of people handling media for them at this point, really enjoyed the videos for basic setup focused on beginners and budgets but realize doesn’t apply to everyone, great job guys though!
Whats is the main lenses of Bethel?
You can find out at BethelProduction.com
Whats the white canon zoom lens the guy was changing zoom by pushing forward the lens element?
It’s how you use the zoom on the old Canon 100-400 lenses.
It is indeed the older Canon 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 L IS USM from 1998
Hello my friend! Hope you are keeping safe ? Kindly help me on this technical matter. I currently stream 1080p 60fps using 1,000kbps bit-rate while my internet upload speed is 20mbps and it gives me optimal output quality, kindly advise me, if it's possible to same 1,000kbps for multi-bitrate but using a 70mbps internet upload speed without having any issues
what kind of jib are they using?
We use an old jimmy jib
There is no list. It redirects to schedule a meeting.
bethelproduction.com/our-gear/video/
He said everything pulled a manual focus, how are they doing manual focus on the crane?
remote focus controls at the base.
We actually have a B4 ENG lens on the jib with a remote. However, we sometimes add a prime lens on there but we just set the focus and forget it. lol
Chad Vegas what is the aperture usually at?
@@robelder We usually live between 1.4 and 2.8. On rare occasions, we'll go up to 4. Everything comes down to lighting. We light for video first and then the room.
anyone know what cage bethel uses, i really like it
Timothy Shibu
Two 4’x6’ plexiglass sheets on each side
@@davidostapuk thanks so much, if you dont mind me asking, how did u find this out because ive tried looking everywhere and theres not a single video on it
Timothy Shibu
Np, I forgot where I saw Drake Kelch(Head of Bethel Production) say it, it was either on a q&a on their Instagram or someone asked on the Bethel Production TH-cam livestream that they have every Sunday. They got the sheets of plexiglass at a local store
@@davidostapuk oh ok thanks a ton
Anyone know the details on the track set up?
VariZoom VZ-CINETRAC Heavy Duty Dolly with Panther Vario tracks.
Chad Vegas thanks pal!
What do they use for wireless cameras or is everything ran over SDI
We have two wireless units and everything else is ran over SDI. We currently use Cinegears Ghost-Eye 600 for wireless
Jared Richard do you have issues with artifacts/digital noise with those units?
Rob Elder it does happen on occasion. There are 10 different frequencies to work with though so usually finding one that works isn’t too bad.
What I would like to know how on earth can these places afford this?
Donations, giving, and selling products
I feel the background music level is detracting and distracting from the actual content.
Yup, music has no place in a detailed tutorial like this unless it's muted during the speaking parts.
Why do modern American churches seem to hate letting in God's good sunshine? No windows!
To make it look more cinematic and have more control. The windows would give too bright of a light or not enough and it is easier without.
@@alivemusic9428 I belong to a church where the windows are huge and the people love to sit in the light. We don't need theatre lights because we don't do theatrical church. We simply praise God in song together, read His word, pray and listen to Bible ministry. When it's dark we use the room lights plus a couple of spots for the platform. That's all we need, and our hall is packed every Sunday morning (outside Coronavirus lockdown of course).
@@KendalSmithy I understand that and it is really great but for a much bigger church like Bethel, Hillsong, Elevation it doesn't work. They are broadcasting to thousands of people and have thousands in the venue. But if they could I'm sure they would consider natural light more.
@@alivemusic9428 Excellent point. To get good, even daylight into a large auditorium you need height, and the higher the building the greater the cost. I guess there's also a danger that smaller churches try to emulate the big ones and block out the light for no real reason other than to make themselves look bigger than they are.
Consistency and control. I know that every time I turn on that camera, the settings are almost dialed in. I’m not fighting against an uncontrollable variable with natural light. I love windows in church! But for broadcast, it’s not helpful.
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cool. but all of that has nothing to do with worshiping God. when is it too much?
What is your obsession with Bethel
Regardless of if you like Bethel's theology or not, you can't question their production quality. They are the standard when it comes to super high quality video and audio in the church.
Tom Brush
It’s not necessarily an obsession, the Bethel people are just really good at what they do. In his first trip to Redding, Jake was able to capture content for an hour long video, in his second trip he captured enough content for 8 videos!
Ummm...Have you seen how good looking I am?! Who wouldn't be obsessed with wanting to record this face all the time?!?!
Bethel is a church... Ah, news to me.
I wish Bethel put as much effort into sound theology as they do music production.
This can’t be real, cmon
This is a tragic confusion of heavily produced entertainment with worship. The two can exist in parallel, but one should never be confused with the other.
"You don't want to have another bethel church"
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Lol
It’s true though. People just need to do their own thing. We’re already singing the same songs every week, what if it all looked the same too 😬?
Bro u know this isn’t a church right? If I were you I wouldn’t associate myself with bethel just saying.
... It is a church
what do you mean not a church
They don’t teach the proper doctrine of the bible. They teach a false gospel.
@@Vchrome_ Not really... It's good to disagree with some things but their work as a whole is good. You can't think of the church as a whole being bad because of you opinions only.
Not bout opinions