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Laptop is already a good steam machine cuz you can just plug into a TV with hdmi and connect a Bluetooth controller, I think this fills a small niche but millennials might eat this up
I'm new to steam/pc gaming with my steam deck, and dude, omg the sales on steam, pc in general are awesome, old games that I never played, new games, 3 bucks, 8 bucks, 15 bucks, prices like that is crazy!
I was on both PC and PS up until essential increased to $80/year and made it so other retailers couldn't sell memberships, effectively doubling the yearly cost to me. I pretty much only used PS to play GT solo and BFV with friends. It was easy to give it up and go exclusively to PC.
IMO they have to start selling steam decks in stores if they want this to work. They have to get people used to seeing the steam branding in stores or they'll still be an alien company for most casual customers.
I want them to go retail for this new roll out. I can’t with this boring, tedious online route anymore. I want to walk into a store and pick up whatever Valve hardware to come. That’s way more fun and exciting than waiting at the door worrying someone will steal it 💀
@@DrawSage Oh really? I personally haven’t seen any. But I’ve seen young peers huddle at the Rog Ally kiosk and I’m thinking “they have no idea about the Steam Deck 💀
With digital ownership this means way less then you think.... There's a reason people on Android and Apple for the last years haven't switched to the other side.. anybody who's been buying digital games since the PlayStation 3 or the Xbox 360 they won't be switching over bro.... It might bring in a whole new crowd to everybody though
This way they will never grow. You think other big tech giants like google, ms, apple, amazon would be worth over a trillion had they stayed private? Venture capital and public trading is what lead to the exponential growth. GabeN would be sitting on 50 billion networth instead of the 5 billion he's currently sitting on.
Since I got a steam deck, and shortly after a gaming PC, my steam catalog has become one of my largest libraries. The classic games that are available at discounted prices are really amazing deals. Anyone looking to get into PC gaming but doesn't want the headache of dealing with back-end problems should absolutely pick one of these up.
@erickmoralvocal8586 During the Black Friday event, I picked up every single Valve game ever made for like $15. Half-Life plus all its expansions plus Half-Life 2 with both of its episodes are something I would definitely grab. Portal and Portal 2 as well. You can also pick up Jet Set Radio for like 8 bucks. It depends on what you're into, but the odds are good if there's a game you used to really enjoy from the Xbox 360 generation till today that it's available on steam, and normally it's on sale. You basically NEVER buy anything at full price on Steam. The store is set up to encourage sales, so you should always wishlist it and pick it up when they notify you it's discounted. I made the mistake of buying Titanfall 2 at the cost of $50, only for it to go on sale the following week for like $4. Google "is there any deal website." Always check them for the best deal, too. You'd be surprised how many brand new releases get discounted as well. I got Wukong on the day it came out for like 15% off thanks to that website. Happy PC gaming bud.
Curious. Do you use a PC/laptop throughout day for work? I'm on my work PC 9 - 10 hours a day. I have ZERO desire to sit in a chair & "play" a typical PC set up. Couch + console + controller (or a handheld) a must for me personally.
@@JAGO_Tech I've heard this argument hundreds of times, but I think it's weird. I have a couch, many controllers and a PC. They all work great together, and I haven't played a PC game at a desk in over six years. I never mentally connect my work PC with my home PC that's meant for entertainment.
@homernoy You play PC exclusively with a controller from the couch? If so, you're the vast minority. I also work in tech so last thing I want is to tinker w/ drivers, updates, & settings after work. Console-ease & environmental difference much more appealing to me. I do use a laptop for retro emulation only. I go into a different room and prefer to hook it up to a TV. I'd rather set up an emu box. On my to-do list lol.
This could be a good move. I’ve said before that steam competing at a level to try and get more of the casual market would be really healthy for the industry since Sony and Microsoft are getting lazy. They’re going to have to take more steps to make this fully work though, like selling it at retail
@@HolyLSD For marketing and brand recognition purposes. It's much harder to gain mainstream success with purely a direct-to-consumer business model. They need to sell in places where consumers are already shopping to remove one of the barriers to making a purchase.
I want more console competition. I want to see Sega come back, Apple, Steam, Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo all compete. This would be great for the consumer.
Here is where this gets interesting: would Valve make the Steam Console have free online? Could that drive Sony and Nintendo to make online play free too?
Same! You can just get a 30ft cable for like $20 and youre golden, Even when i moved my PC to my room I got 2 of the long HDMi cables and I connect them with an adapter lol
7:43 My Epic Games library currently contains 218 titles, and I have not bought a single one of them, I have never spent a penny in that store. I know I have not collected all the free games they gave away because I was late to the party, it took me a while to bother creating an account for that. I have put 59 games into my favorites which means they're great games I have already played or know about and want to play.
This is brilliant IMO. As someone who’s been incredibly late to the steam deck but loving it, one of the biggest pain points is how to play on a 65” TV. Yes, I know technically it’s quite easy to get a dock and do it but it’s obvious lack of power makes it much less than ideal than existing consoles. If steam can address this with a powerful local option or server-side streaming option, it’d be a no brainer purchase for me!
As a console gamer that owns a Steam Deck, I could see myself getting this instead of the next Microsoft or Sony console since it would be more powerful for demanding games. I still don’t want a typical gaming PC setup for my living room.
@@HolyLSDThe point is that this would be aimed at the console gaming market. Console gamers aren't generally gonna build a PC to hook to their TV, but they will buy something like this.
Just to be clear, all steam machines sold had steam is 1.0 or 2.0 which was based on Debian Linux. The OEMs selling steam machines also sold them without the steam machine brand as regular pcs running windows. The main issue for the steam machine was lack of native Linux games. This has been mostly resolved with the Proton compatibility layer used on steam os 3.0 which is based on Arch Linux instead of Debian.
There’s more competition now than ever. If anything IT’s over saturated, which is why gaming is the way it is. Big budgets, long development times, underbaked games, no gamers making decisions. Overall bad state in gaming with arguably the most choices ever at this time.
My opinion might be all over the place but hear me out. Valve tried making a “console” in 2015 and it crashed and burned getting discontinued in just 3 years. However, I think the market was way different back then and as long as it’s semi upgradable it might have a very small chance of competing with the big 3. However, it will not be able to keep up with Xbox/PlayStation/Nintendo if Valve just relies on their store front and doesn’t have any exclusive games. My reason for this is that without exclusives a lot of consumers are gonna ask themselves “why do I need it when my Xbox/PlayStation/Nintendo can download most of the same games”.
You need a Steam box because the Steam storefront is just better than any of the console storefronts. The online is free, games are cheaper, great mod support, emulators, an ever growing library that will move forward with you no matter what, etc. Valve doesn't need exclusives as show by their dominance in the PC space and their success with the Steam Deck.
Have I ever thought about another company entering the console space? Yes. Back in 2018-2019, I remember following News Wave and seeing the Google console rumours and being pretty excited until it turned out to be Stadia, one of the worst things to ever grace the gaming industry...
I would 100% buy a steam console, the steam deck has been my main way to play games since I sold my series x in February. I’ve had no complaints, it runs anything I want to play
I think making the Steamdeck was definitely dipping their toes into an integrated system from software to hardware and now they know if they can or can't make their own box. I think definitely like others have said selling in stores would definitely test if they can mass produce rapidly enough for the market before they commit
I genuinely believe Sega could easily get back into the console industry, I know they won't but between their IPs (Sonic, phantasy star, Shinobi, Golden Axe, crazy taxi, jet set radio, etc.) + 3rd party, they can set themselves apart from Sony and Microsoft.
true. I'm not a fan of exclusivity but Sega literally have the IPs to build an exclusivity empire, if they ever decided to jump back into the console market and make a stand again granted they learned from past mistakes. Like A Dragon/Yakuza, Could revive Virtua fighter, Virtua Cop, make a new Panzer Dragoon. They'd have options for sure
Well, this was a surprise. With the success of the Steam Deck, I was expecting Valve to make a TV set top box variant from the same hardware like how Sony's Playstation TV did out of their Vita.
They did but they didn't make it first-party and instead licensed their OS and name branding to various companies. They were called Steam Machines and they sucked a lot. I had one. It couldn't even run Portal 2 and had a ton of graphical errors.
I currently have two mini pcs hooked up to my bedroom tv; one with Windows, and the other with SteamOS (via Steam Fork). Each has its own HDMI connection, so I can turn on both, then switch between them with ease. It's pretty nice.
If valve can produce a powerful enough platform in a simple design, with simple settings for users and most importantly: MAKE DEVELOPER'S OPTIMIZE FOR THE HARDWARE Then I'd be more interested to try that alongside my playstation. If they only create a "midrange pc box with steam support" it will fail epicly since console users wont see the appeal and pc users will prefer to build a better pc for cheaper
If valve makes a console it's going to immediately be my main console. Due to the SteamDeck I already "borrow" more games on the system than PS & Nintendo
I don't even have a PC and I have so many free games through Prime and Epic it's crazy. Eventually I might get a Steam device. Some I can play free via cloud but overall none of them are near the top of my list.
@sagepirotess6312 yeah but it's an powerful weak system lol. I'll just wait until i see what Nintendo has to show us soon and if that's great I'll get it & a steam console since i have a lot of games on the platform already PlayStation 5 it just sits... So this would be great for me
@@theelitedragon2xx your same argument is what people said about switch 1. Look how that went. Power is not everything. 2nd though is look at the games gamers play. Most are old games. I mean fortnight, league, pub, wow, cod. Yea a few high end cant be played but thats a minority.
I am 54 years old. I have a large physical collection of games going back to the early 70s. 1000’s of games and somewhere around 40 consoles of different variations. That being said i am ready for the digital future, i seriously want to see handhelds the hook to TV. Forget the immobile consoles. I am now looking at convenience over physical. I will still grow my physical retro collections but going forward just the handhelds for me.
MiSTer FPGA has let me sell a lot of my physical collection to downsize but I kept digital versions of each system library. Don't care if people have a problem with my approach, most of these games are 25+ years old which to me is fair game.
They should all do that. Just choose "your console" at boot. That way there is competition and they can all keep their money and ecosystems. The best will prevail, for multiformat dominance, yet no one could really fail because of it.
I hope Valve will be the only company making the new Steam box not like how did it previously with so many companies doing their own Steam Machines with so many specs to choose. Keep it simple so the average joe could just pick up the device and use it.
Nope. Xbox owns some of the biggest games in the industry with Activision/Blizzard/Bethesda and they’re not done acquiring either. I mean even PlayStation’s head said that they would go out of business if Xbox made just a single game exclusive with that being CoD which is true. Phil is playing nice but the next head of Xbox might not.
After owning steam deck, I can see my friends moving to the "PC" space. They just want something that works out the box, no effing with settings, they don't find joy in that. Steam OS has solved that. A console that can do better than deck and make it powerful enough to actually run VR, I think they have something here. Not to mention the sales/prices of games are way better than the console space.
Steam machines came with steam os 1 installed on them. Most people loaded windows because if linux’s poor support for games at the time. Valve have since flipped that on its head with proton.
If they made a console equivalent of the Deck with better performance it would instantly become a major player in the space. Sony and MS hardware only knows how to shit the bed these days its a great time to usurp them. And for the record theres literally nothing wrong with the Epic Store. I have hundreds of great free games from there and still play there regularly. Steam is great but thats no excuse to throw shade at the lesser platforms that play just fine.
Also, the Alienware Alpha was a very cool idea. They had modular parts so you could update it as time went on. It was a great co cept to consolize PC building.
As an older gamer I would rather just stick to a steam deck or seam deck 2 when that comes out. The switch hybrid nature just works so well for me and how I game now. For me, at the moment and near future, I don't see a point in it right now.
I'm the same, love the OLED SD. Us oldies remember not so long ago how bad games looked so we're happy with the settings on SD and when the new SD comes out in a couple of years we will be really happy with the performance.
As someone who has an outdated gaming pc and only really cares about having a pc for gaming, i really hope valve makes a steam box. Playing my steam library as easily as a console on a TV would be great.
Having your whole steam library on your TV without the lag of streaming or needing to hook up your PC would be amazing. They might as well make a dedicated console for this, that’s standardized and less convoluted than their previous steam machines. Valve has the opportunity to knock it out of the park.
Sony would crp its pants. One thing valve has over sony, you can play a steam game in almost every county. Hence selling a box legit, or online buy a gamer can have and play. Say unlike the 200+ countries that cant play a sony game as they cant make a psn account.
Patiently waiting for a steam box where u can easily swap out the graphics cards, so that way you can buy one box that will play all games with a steam deck UI. And if you want more performance you can buy this accessory bi-yearly whenever there’s a new version.
I’d pick a Steam Box up in a second. However, Sony would shut that shit down immediately in terms of their games being playable. They can easily ban the games running of specific hardware configurations, and they would do it without a second thought.
Assuming their contract with Valve would even allow that (which I would expect it doesn't), that would be such a bad PR nightmare that it wouldn't be worth it, at least for existing Steam titles. However, if Valve gained enough traction in the living room, I could definitely see Sony re-thinking their PC push.
@@joem58158 Sony is nothing if not a bully. I love their games, but they are fucking ruthless. I’d say even more than Nintendo. They’ll do what they can to make sure Valve gets no benefit from their games.
@@LittleBobbyTV A lot of games I play are on PC, never had a game that I need to rush out and get a console. At the end of the day, If PlayStation wants to make more money, then they will keep putting their games on PC. otherwise, why put PlayStation titles on PC.
@batmanbud2 the developers makes the games for consoles so i dont know what you mean that Sony and Microsoft is stealing and thats the only thing that is keeping Nintendo going is pokemon and Mario Nintendo last good game console was the game cube after that they just started sucking
@@SuperSikarloHe was right if he did. Valve couldn't take even a bit of the Switch market share, and the number of Steam Decks as of Nov 2024, more than 2 years after it launched in Feb 2022, it's not at 5 million yet. MidDeck is a speck of dust compared to the Switch, PS5 or even the Series consoles.
I'm more so interested on steamOS for my PC. I'm running windows 10 and patiently waiting for it. Since it's tailored more to gaming. I already use Linux for a lot of other things and proton basically makes every game work.
The whole point of console is for its exclusives and convenience. If you were gonna get a steam machine you might aswell fork up the extra bread and get a gaming PC. It’ll be the same thing except a lot more powerful
@@jacobross735this is for the fence sitters who are scared of keyboard and mouse and windows. It's a gateway console to the steam eco system its not for us diehards
Yes!.. Not only will it be amazing in its own right but it'll fix the stale console domain. Sony needs some serious competition. Not for their sake , but for us as games.
I was just reflecting on this question the other day and was also thinking that Valve would be the best positioned company to enter the console market. They already have a user base with massive libraries and an OS system that works. If they commit to it, they could be very successful.
My first PC was an Alienware Alpha. I honestly loved it. Was kind of like babies first PC. Taught me all about ram and the difference between SSDs and Hardrives and it ran games pretty damn well.
Valve already tried to have a console in a 3Do like approach. Multiple manufacturers produce a product that played the same titles that ran Steam. With the somewhat success of the Steamdeck, I can see them expand their offerings to expand their market.
If this can serve as an alternative to local game streaming, I think that's the best market to go after, but I don't see too many people running Sunshine, Moonlight, or Parsec these days
Between the Epic and Amazon stuff I have over 400 games on Epic, and only bought like 3 of them. Would have bought less but Alan Wake 2 isn't coming to steam and the others I didn't want to wait to play.
11:34 upgrading the parts is what I was thinking about. I would pay up to $1000 if the console was upgradable. Because that means it it should have a longer life span than a traditional console.
I’d be very interested in a Steam console. Consoles are acting more like PC’s anyway, especially if they go all digital, so I think my console days are numbered anyways.
I am liking the adverts in Spawn Wave are starting to fit gaming, it would be nice if there was some more console based game (hint hint Embracer Group)
The way to enter the market for Valve, is to use the steam deck 2's SoC, remove Battery and Screen will lower the price. So if Steam Deck 2 launches at $499, the console can be $399, and they can have a drop in slot for a GPU, with a pro model for $599-$699 with an AMD GPU, as you can use Steam Deck OS with a different SoC or dedicated GPU just fine.
The first Steam Machine/box did actually run on steam OS, v1.0 to be exact. Which was actually a big problem back then when wine/proton were not as good as they are today.
This would be a fantastic idea for people who arent trying to get into pc's but want to play steam , I always wondered what it would be like for a steam app on console but this might be better
I will never buy an Xbox ever again but I would consider buying a valve box but it needs to play my PC library in some form or another. Don't know if that's at all possible for some games but that's not for me to figure out....
This would make sense. It would take a lot more work to integrate a home UI setup for other media consumption on top of the Linux distro. They could just modify whatever exist for Android TV and throw a tab for Steam on the top.
For me it’s honestly been impressive just using my steam deck as a home console while docked. It’s obviously closer to looking like Nintendo switch graphics than a PS5 but it has been more than capable of playing the majority of my games just fine.
If valve makes a console, They have to invest in customer service. 0/10 company to need help from. Can’t see how they aren’t violating anti-trust/monopoly laws as it is with Steam. Shame. SHAME.
The question is would a new company from scratch be able to do it and develop a solid brand or a company who is making other consumer electronic products more qualified?
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Laptop is already a good steam machine cuz you can just plug into a TV with hdmi and connect a Bluetooth controller, I think this fills a small niche but millennials might eat this up
Can’t believe Soulja boy is taking this seriously now
Don't bring that disastrous console up
The KFConsole was way better anyway
If I'm not mistaken he's the CEO of Atari...🤔
Tell em
Dude is still losing to The Game Cast.
As a non pc gamer, I would definitely be interested in a Steam box. I always hear the sales on Steam are crazy good
I'm new to steam/pc gaming with my steam deck, and dude, omg the sales on steam, pc in general are awesome, old games that I never played, new games, 3 bucks, 8 bucks, 15 bucks, prices like that is crazy!
Prices are so stupidly low compared to consoles, it's wild.
This is why I switched to PC a long time ago 👍 I love Steam and the sales are crazy good !
Yup low prices & no online membership. Downside, don’t have license to own, only “barrow”
I was on both PC and PS up until essential increased to $80/year and made it so other retailers couldn't sell memberships, effectively doubling the yearly cost to me. I pretty much only used PS to play GT solo and BFV with friends. It was easy to give it up and go exclusively to PC.
IMO they have to start selling steam decks in stores if they want this to work. They have to get people used to seeing the steam branding in stores or they'll still be an alien company for most casual customers.
I want them to go retail for this new roll out. I can’t with this boring, tedious online route anymore.
I want to walk into a store and pick up whatever Valve hardware to come. That’s way more fun and exciting than waiting at the door worrying someone will steal it 💀
Decks are available in best buys in north america.
@DrawSage not within 100 miles of me. Theres like 4 big cities near me and neither sells steam decks. The sell legion go and ROG ally only.
@@DrawSage Oh really?
I personally haven’t seen any. But I’ve seen young peers huddle at the Rog Ally kiosk and I’m thinking “they have no idea about the Steam Deck 💀
@@DrawSageNot in the ones from where I live (Puerto Rico).
More competition is ALWAYS better for consumers.
Absolute factssss
Sony might yank their exclusives off steam - lol! Too late, though.
to a point
@@snkfanPS5 dominating is literally proof of good competition. Microsoft has not put in enough effort this gen and fell off as a result.
With digital ownership this means way less then you think.... There's a reason people on Android and Apple for the last years haven't switched to the other side.. anybody who's been buying digital games since the PlayStation 3 or the Xbox 360 they won't be switching over bro.... It might bring in a whole new crowd to everybody though
One key element here is that Valve is still a private company and that helps a lot when not trying to keep happy shareholders
Valve doesn't sell company shares to the public, they don't need to
@Th0ws yeah is a smart move, they focus on consumer and have control of the company, passing those goof prices to consumers
This way they will never grow. You think other big tech giants like google, ms, apple, amazon would be worth over a trillion had they stayed private? Venture capital and public trading is what lead to the exponential growth. GabeN would be sitting on 50 billion networth instead of the 5 billion he's currently sitting on.
Since I got a steam deck, and shortly after a gaming PC, my steam catalog has become one of my largest libraries. The classic games that are available at discounted prices are really amazing deals. Anyone looking to get into PC gaming but doesn't want the headache of dealing with back-end problems should absolutely pick one of these up.
Imagine your emulation library as well as your steam library together on your living room tv. That sounds pretty awesome to me.
@jonpaul4787 💯 I couldn't agree more. I have a backlog of games I picked up on sale that would be perfect to tackle with something like this as well
I just picked up a Rog Ally, which classic cheap games on steam do you recommend bro?
@@erickmoralvocal8586 you just need to keep a close watch on the sales. It's different all the time.
@erickmoralvocal8586 During the Black Friday event, I picked up every single Valve game ever made for like $15. Half-Life plus all its expansions plus Half-Life 2 with both of its episodes are something I would definitely grab. Portal and Portal 2 as well. You can also pick up Jet Set Radio for like 8 bucks. It depends on what you're into, but the odds are good if there's a game you used to really enjoy from the Xbox 360 generation till today that it's available on steam, and normally it's on sale.
You basically NEVER buy anything at full price on Steam. The store is set up to encourage sales, so you should always wishlist it and pick it up when they notify you it's discounted. I made the mistake of buying Titanfall 2 at the cost of $50, only for it to go on sale the following week for like $4. Google "is there any deal website." Always check them for the best deal, too. You'd be surprised how many brand new releases get discounted as well. I got Wukong on the day it came out for like 15% off thanks to that website.
Happy PC gaming bud.
Valve will release their own console and then Microsoft will come along and claim it's an Xbox.
It is
@@loitersquadXthankfully not.
Ngl steam + gamepass on a console setup would be lit
@@emiliobarrera8229 Gamepass is irrelevant.
@@makasete30well anything with internet is an “Xbox” lol. Even the iPhone I’m using to type this with. I used gamepass on it last night
I would 100% buy a steam console as I get older I rather just play on console now.
Curious. Do you use a PC/laptop throughout day for work? I'm on my work PC 9 - 10 hours a day. I have ZERO desire to sit in a chair & "play" a typical PC set up. Couch + console + controller (or a handheld) a must for me personally.
If you put this next to the 'powered by SteamOS' logo they just dropped, its a fair guess its not a first party Steam console
@@JAGO_Tech I've heard this argument hundreds of times, but I think it's weird. I have a couch, many controllers and a PC. They all work great together, and I haven't played a PC game at a desk in over six years. I never mentally connect my work PC with my home PC that's meant for entertainment.
Sounds boomerish lol
@homernoy You play PC exclusively with a controller from the couch? If so, you're the vast minority. I also work in tech so last thing I want is to tinker w/ drivers, updates, & settings after work. Console-ease & environmental difference much more appealing to me. I do use a laptop for retro emulation only. I go into a different room and prefer to hook it up to a TV. I'd rather set up an emu box. On my to-do list lol.
This could be a good move. I’ve said before that steam competing at a level to try and get more of the casual market would be really healthy for the industry since Sony and Microsoft are getting lazy. They’re going to have to take more steps to make this fully work though, like selling it at retail
People keep saying they need to sell it at retail stores but I ask why? Most people spend more time online than they do shopping in a store each week.
@@HolyLSD For marketing and brand recognition purposes. It's much harder to gain mainstream success with purely a direct-to-consumer business model. They need to sell in places where consumers are already shopping to remove one of the barriers to making a purchase.
a console dedicated to PC games is so fucking cool.
I want more console competition. I want to see Sega come back, Apple, Steam, Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo all compete. This would be great for the consumer.
The follow up punch to really make them competitive is free online multiplayer.
Here is where this gets interesting: would Valve make the Steam Console have free online? Could that drive Sony and Nintendo to make online play free too?
Pay for online multiplayer is stupid. That's the reason I only have pc.
I doubt they're going to charge for that.
bought a really long hdmi cable just to run my PC to my TV and use steam as a console, so I’m 100% the market for this
Same! You can just get a 30ft cable for like $20 and youre golden, Even when i moved my PC to my room I got 2 of the long HDMi cables and I connect them with an adapter lol
@@craciunator99, so by the time it gets to your TV you down to what, about 480p?
I have my tv 2 meters away from my pc. A gamingroom and pc desktop room in one. It is like a gameconsole so I would not need a steam machine.
@@nickdee5764 Thats not at all how that works. I notice no difference between that and just with a regular cable
@@craciunator99 , I was kidding, don’t get too wrapped up in comments made by dummies
Hell yes. Day one purchase. You want to give me my steam library in a console format? I'm in
Same
Steam Deck and a dock. Already available.
@@Progger11 Steam Deck is a pretty weak machine for the latest AAA games.
@@Progger11 limited at 30w
It won't really be a console format. More like a streaming service connected to steam
7:43 My Epic Games library currently contains 218 titles, and I have not bought a single one of them, I have never spent a penny in that store. I know I have not collected all the free games they gave away because I was late to the party, it took me a while to bother creating an account for that. I have put 59 games into my favorites which means they're great games I have already played or know about and want to play.
They should do it, more competition is always better for the consumer. The introduction of a "console" with Steam prices can be huge.
This is brilliant IMO. As someone who’s been incredibly late to the steam deck but loving it, one of the biggest pain points is how to play on a 65” TV. Yes, I know technically it’s quite easy to get a dock and do it but it’s obvious lack of power makes it much less than ideal than existing consoles. If steam can address this with a powerful local option or server-side streaming option, it’d be a no brainer purchase for me!
You can plug in the steam deck into a dock and play on a tv with a controller so the idea already works
Whoa no way??? I can also do it on pc connected to tv with big picture mode! So what is the point of this thing?
As a console gamer that owns a Steam Deck, I could see myself getting this instead of the next Microsoft or Sony console since it would be more powerful for demanding games. I still don’t want a typical gaming PC setup for my living room.
Exactly. It already works. It is just lacking power.
@@HolyLSDThe point is that this would be aimed at the console gaming market. Console gamers aren't generally gonna build a PC to hook to their TV, but they will buy something like this.
Just to be clear, all steam machines sold had steam is 1.0 or 2.0 which was based on Debian Linux. The OEMs selling steam machines also sold them without the steam machine brand as regular pcs running windows. The main issue for the steam machine was lack of native Linux games. This has been mostly resolved with the Proton compatibility layer used on steam os 3.0 which is based on Arch Linux instead of Debian.
I REALLY hope they do. We need more competition!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also having my steam library on the TV and on the go is just perfect 💖💖
We don't need competition, so long as we have good enough consoles to play video games on them it shouldn't matter.
There’s more competition now than ever. If anything IT’s over saturated, which is why gaming is the way it is. Big budgets, long development times, underbaked games, no gamers making decisions. Overall bad state in gaming with arguably the most choices ever at this time.
How can you not hook up your pc to your TV already?
Tech illiterate?
Still waiting for KFC Console
Would buy a Steam Machine 2 instantly. I hate sitting at the computer to play games, but I have a decent steam libary..
My opinion might be all over the place but hear me out. Valve tried making a “console” in 2015 and it crashed and burned getting discontinued in just 3 years. However, I think the market was way different back then and as long as it’s semi upgradable it might have a very small chance of competing with the big 3. However, it will not be able to keep up with Xbox/PlayStation/Nintendo if Valve just relies on their store front and doesn’t have any exclusive games. My reason for this is that without exclusives a lot of consumers are gonna ask themselves “why do I need it when my Xbox/PlayStation/Nintendo can download most of the same games”.
You need a Steam box because the Steam storefront is just better than any of the console storefronts. The online is free, games are cheaper, great mod support, emulators, an ever growing library that will move forward with you no matter what, etc. Valve doesn't need exclusives as show by their dominance in the PC space and their success with the Steam Deck.
@@yousafkhan6921They really need a new game, not as an exclusive but just because they make great games.
Only chance I buy this is if I can load other OS' on it.
Steam already has a ton of games that are exclusive
Well, the exclusives, are all the games on pc that are not on console. And there are way more than there are console exclusives.
3:18 “this really started to pick up steam” 😂😂 pun intended
Steam also has a new popup that says “this game is best played with controller. Sit back and relax.” That popup feels very console-ly
Have I ever thought about another company entering the console space? Yes. Back in 2018-2019, I remember following News Wave and seeing the Google console rumours and being pretty excited until it turned out to be Stadia, one of the worst things to ever grace the gaming industry...
A Valve Console would be awesome.
I would 100% buy a steam console, the steam deck has been my main way to play games since I sold my series x in February. I’ve had no complaints, it runs anything I want to play
I think making the Steamdeck was definitely dipping their toes into an integrated system from software to hardware and now they know if they can or can't make their own box. I think definitely like others have said selling in stores would definitely test if they can mass produce rapidly enough for the market before they commit
I genuinely believe Sega could easily get back into the console industry, I know they won't but between their IPs (Sonic, phantasy star, Shinobi, Golden Axe, crazy taxi, jet set radio, etc.) + 3rd party, they can set themselves apart from Sony and Microsoft.
true. I'm not a fan of exclusivity but Sega literally have the IPs to build an exclusivity empire, if they ever decided to jump back into the console market and make a stand again granted they learned from past mistakes. Like A Dragon/Yakuza, Could revive Virtua fighter, Virtua Cop, make a new Panzer Dragoon. They'd have options for sure
They also own Atlus. Makers of Persona, shin megami tensie and metaphor refantazio
If Valve goes console (and succeeds) it will push Sony faster into their own PC launcher/store...
Or they can keep putting their games on Steam like they’ve been doing?
pc players will not buy sony games from a playstation launcher
Won't buy from there
Well, this was a surprise. With the success of the Steam Deck, I was expecting Valve to make a TV set top box variant from the same hardware like how Sony's Playstation TV did out of their Vita.
Didn't Steam made a console back in 2015?? Or was that a fever dream
@@VenomHernandez they did but the controller for me it sucked
@@VenomHernandez it was kinda expensive and the hardware were weaker than a ps4 at the time
They did but they didn't make it first-party and instead licensed their OS and name branding to various companies. They were called Steam Machines and they sucked a lot. I had one. It couldn't even run Portal 2 and had a ton of graphical errors.
it was about as much as a console as the steam deck, it was basically a prebuilt PC.
It’s easier to talk about it.
I currently have two mini pcs hooked up to my bedroom tv; one with Windows, and the other with SteamOS (via Steam Fork). Each has its own HDMI connection, so I can turn on both, then switch between them with ease. It's pretty nice.
nice
If valve can produce a powerful enough platform in a simple design, with simple settings for users and most importantly: MAKE DEVELOPER'S OPTIMIZE FOR THE HARDWARE
Then I'd be more interested to try that alongside my playstation.
If they only create a "midrange pc box with steam support" it will fail epicly since console users wont see the appeal and pc users will prefer to build a better pc for cheaper
They should have a regular “ mid “ level and a pro model. Keep it simple not like the Steam Machine disaster.
If valve makes a console it's going to immediately be my main console. Due to the SteamDeck I already "borrow" more games on the system than PS & Nintendo
My epic library is over 250 games and I've only ever bought one game on it.
I don't even have a PC and I have so many free games through Prime and Epic it's crazy. Eventually I might get a Steam device. Some I can play free via cloud but overall none of them are near the top of my list.
I have almost 500 games on epic games and all were free and, i only started getting them like 2 years ago, imagine if i had started doing it day one 😮
Ill get one if it's not streaming only 😅
I dont think it be stream only. I mean decks not.
@sagepirotess6312 yeah but it's an powerful weak system lol. I'll just wait until i see what Nintendo has to show us soon and if that's great I'll get it & a steam console since i have a lot of games on the platform already PlayStation 5 it just sits... So this would be great for me
@@theelitedragon2xx your same argument is what people said about switch 1. Look how that went. Power is not everything. 2nd though is look at the games gamers play. Most are old games. I mean fortnight, league, pub, wow, cod. Yea a few high end cant be played but thats a minority.
@@theelitedragon2xxI’m not looking forward to Nintendos at all lol. They will only have this gen’s games ported and no current stuff like gta 6
Steam wouldn’t do something THAT dumb.
I definitely like the idea of a new steam machine. A console experience, but with the benefits of PC. Mouse and keyboard, use any controller, etc.
I guess there would be no paying a sub to play online if a steam box was available
With their success with the Steam Deck, it would be cool to see them get involved further into this space.
I am 54 years old. I have a large physical collection of games going back to the early 70s. 1000’s of games and somewhere around 40 consoles of different variations. That being said i am ready for the digital future, i seriously want to see handhelds the hook to TV. Forget the immobile consoles. I am now looking at convenience over physical. I will still grow my physical retro collections but going forward just the handhelds for me.
MiSTer FPGA has let me sell a lot of my physical collection to downsize but I kept digital versions of each system library.
Don't care if people have a problem with my approach, most of these games are 25+ years old which to me is fair game.
Start looking to start a museum 😂 you have history and way before I was born
My game room is accepting donations if the physical stuff becomes too much for you lmao
I’d rather have a console over a handheld personally but that’s because I never need a handheld
@ being that i have spent a lot of time in hospitals over the last few years a handheld is perfect
I just want it to make a dent in the Desktop market share so more companies would invest in linux versions of their software.
If it isn't called the Steam Engine, we riot
Awesome name for it since it would be a true “PC Engine” 😂
@mattx449 I was thinking of a train. But that works too
@@Soup-manI know… 👍👍
I wouldn’t be surprised if there are more Steam users at this point than people with Microsoft or Sony libraries
I would prefer they just make a SteamOS that you can load onto any PC.
They should all do that. Just choose "your console" at boot.
That way there is competition and they can all keep their money and ecosystems. The best will prevail, for multiformat dominance, yet no one could really fail because of it.
It's not SteamOS but Bazzite is quite close in functionality.
I hope Valve will be the only company making the new Steam box not like how did it previously with so many companies doing their own Steam Machines with so many specs to choose. Keep it simple so the average joe could just pick up the device and use it.
Very fascinating if true.
I just put Bazzite on an older HP with an AMD APU to see what this would be like
Valve could literally call it the stream engine since that’s how games are made using an engine to program them
Sounds great! But will it make fan sounds or will it be quite like a real gaming pc!
If STEAM enters the console market, thats when Xbox bows out.
Nope. Xbox owns some of the biggest games in the industry with Activision/Blizzard/Bethesda and they’re not done acquiring either.
I mean even PlayStation’s head said that they would go out of business if Xbox made just a single game exclusive with that being CoD which is true. Phil is playing nice but the next head of Xbox might not.
@ yeah I was talking about hardware not software.
After owning steam deck, I can see my friends moving to the "PC" space. They just want something that works out the box, no effing with settings, they don't find joy in that. Steam OS has solved that. A console that can do better than deck and make it powerful enough to actually run VR, I think they have something here. Not to mention the sales/prices of games are way better than the console space.
Finally. The war to upgrade my PC is over.
Steam machines came with steam os 1 installed on them. Most people loaded windows because if linux’s poor support for games at the time. Valve have since flipped that on its head with proton.
If they made a console equivalent of the Deck with better performance it would instantly become a major player in the space. Sony and MS hardware only knows how to shit the bed these days its a great time to usurp them. And for the record theres literally nothing wrong with the Epic Store. I have hundreds of great free games from there and still play there regularly. Steam is great but thats no excuse to throw shade at the lesser platforms that play just fine.
If it natively supports most of all entertainment apps like Google TV and can game like the steam deck then it would be an interesting product.
Isn’t this just a mini pc. And valve has already done this before.
This time it will work.
Also, the Alienware Alpha was a very cool idea. They had modular parts so you could update it as time went on. It was a great co cept to consolize PC building.
As an older gamer I would rather just stick to a steam deck or seam deck 2 when that comes out. The switch hybrid nature just works so well for me and how I game now. For me, at the moment and near future, I don't see a point in it right now.
I'm the same, love the OLED SD. Us oldies remember not so long ago how bad games looked so we're happy with the settings on SD and when the new SD comes out in a couple of years we will be really happy with the performance.
As someone who has an outdated gaming pc and only really cares about having a pc for gaming, i really hope valve makes a steam box. Playing my steam library as easily as a console on a TV would be great.
The big 2. PlayStation & Nintendo. And then there is Microsoft's Xbox. There, fixed that for ya.
Having your whole steam library on your TV without the lag of streaming or needing to hook up your PC would be amazing. They might as well make a dedicated console for this, that’s standardized and less convoluted than their previous steam machines. Valve has the opportunity to knock it out of the park.
Sony would crp its pants. One thing valve has over sony, you can play a steam game in almost every county. Hence selling a box legit, or online buy a gamer can have and play. Say unlike the 200+ countries that cant play a sony game as they cant make a psn account.
Patiently waiting for a steam box where u can easily swap out the graphics cards, so that way you can buy one box that will play all games with a steam deck UI. And if you want more performance you can buy this accessory bi-yearly whenever there’s a new version.
I’d pick a Steam Box up in a second. However, Sony would shut that shit down immediately in terms of their games being playable.
They can easily ban the games running of specific hardware configurations, and they would do it without a second thought.
Assuming their contract with Valve would even allow that (which I would expect it doesn't), that would be such a bad PR nightmare that it wouldn't be worth it, at least for existing Steam titles. However, if Valve gained enough traction in the living room, I could definitely see Sony re-thinking their PC push.
They would be silly to do that.
@@joem58158 Sony is nothing if not a bully. I love their games, but they are fucking ruthless. I’d say even more than Nintendo. They’ll do what they can to make sure Valve gets no benefit from their games.
@@LittleBobbyTV A lot of games I play are on PC, never had a game that I need to rush out and get a console. At the end of the day, If PlayStation wants to make more money, then they will keep putting their games on PC. otherwise, why put PlayStation titles on PC.
i hope they go through with this we need something else in the console market instead whatever excuse of a game console that Nintendo comes out with
People will still flock to Nintendo because it actually has unique games people actually want. Steam steals its games from Sony and Microsoft.
@batmanbud2 the developers makes the games for consoles so i dont know what you mean that Sony and Microsoft is stealing and thats the only thing that is keeping Nintendo going is pokemon and Mario Nintendo last good game console was the game cube after that they just started sucking
properly advertized a steambox would be a real competitor since PC games are way cheaper and even more with all those keyshops
I don’t game on PC or Handheld, but I’ve always been interested in Steam.
Take my money 💰
If it's priced like the Steam Machines, equally as a high end PC and with current prices, Valve can just forget about getting into console spaces.
I bet you said the same thing with the steam deck
@SuperSikarlo The Deck s is priced $400 and below. The cheapest Steam Machine at time that was actually able to have good performance was above $700
@@SuperSikarloHe was right if he did.
Valve couldn't take even a bit of the Switch market share, and the number of Steam Decks as of Nov 2024, more than 2 years after it launched in Feb 2022, it's not at 5 million yet.
MidDeck is a speck of dust compared to the Switch, PS5 or even the Series consoles.
@@SuperSikarlo Steam deck flopped.
@@RedEyedDRAG00Nthe steam deck is amazing.
I'm more so interested on steamOS for my PC. I'm running windows 10 and patiently waiting for it. Since it's tailored more to gaming. I already use Linux for a lot of other things and proton basically makes every game work.
Honestly is valve really does do this I will never need to buy a Playstation or Xbox ever again
The whole point of console is for its exclusives and convenience. If you were gonna get a steam machine you might aswell fork up the extra bread and get a gaming PC. It’ll be the same thing except a lot more powerful
Well for me i like to have all the consoles so i will get one if it comes out to sit along side the Nintendo & PlayStation and my mini gaming pc
@@jacobross735this is for the fence sitters who are scared of keyboard and mouse and windows. It's a gateway console to the steam eco system its not for us diehards
I still have and use my Alienware Steam Machine... Ahead of it's time and the software wasn't ready back then.
I'd buy it day one just to see what they did with it tbh, hardware wise it's nice to see the console space evolving.
hell yea i would buy this thing. i got 3K+ games on Steam and the steam deck is my daily driver, same with PC, but i'd buy this just for my TV
Anything new that leverages into an existing library and plays them better gfx and sound, will be a winner.
Yes!.. Not only will it be amazing in its own right but it'll fix the stale console domain. Sony needs some serious competition. Not for their sake , but for us as games.
I was just reflecting on this question the other day and was also thinking that Valve would be the best positioned company to enter the console market. They already have a user base with massive libraries and an OS system that works. If they commit to it, they could be very successful.
My first PC was an Alienware Alpha. I honestly loved it. Was kind of like babies first PC. Taught me all about ram and the difference between SSDs and Hardrives and it ran games pretty damn well.
Valve already tried to have a console in a 3Do like approach. Multiple manufacturers produce a product that played the same titles that ran Steam.
With the somewhat success of the Steamdeck, I can see them expand their offerings to expand their market.
If this can serve as an alternative to local game streaming, I think that's the best market to go after, but I don't see too many people running Sunshine, Moonlight, or Parsec these days
Easily would purchase as a standalone thing.
Between the Epic and Amazon stuff I have over 400 games on Epic, and only bought like 3 of them. Would have bought less but Alan Wake 2 isn't coming to steam and the others I didn't want to wait to play.
11:34 upgrading the parts is what I was thinking about. I would pay up to $1000 if the console was upgradable. Because that means it it should have a longer life span than a traditional console.
I’d be very interested in a Steam console. Consoles are acting more like PC’s anyway, especially if they go all digital, so I think my console days are numbered anyways.
imagine nintendo and valve decide to team up...
I am liking the adverts in Spawn Wave are starting to fit gaming, it would be nice if there was some more console based game (hint hint Embracer Group)
The way to enter the market for Valve, is to use the steam deck 2's SoC, remove Battery and Screen will lower the price. So if Steam Deck 2 launches at $499, the console can be $399, and they can have a drop in slot for a GPU, with a pro model for $599-$699 with an AMD GPU, as you can use Steam Deck OS with a different SoC or dedicated GPU just fine.
The first Steam Machine/box did actually run on steam OS, v1.0 to be exact. Which was actually a big problem back then when wine/proton were not as good as they are today.
This would be a fantastic idea for people who arent trying to get into pc's but want to play steam , I always wondered what it would be like for a steam app on console but this might be better
Sony with their greedy price increases and 800 dollar consoles they Need More Competition I would support a steam console if the price is Right😊😊😊
I’d buy one…at the right price. I use a PS5 controller with Big Picture mode now.
I will never buy an Xbox ever again but I would consider buying a valve box but it needs to play my PC library in some form or another. Don't know if that's at all possible for some games but that's not for me to figure out....
This would make sense. It would take a lot more work to integrate a home UI setup for other media consumption on top of the Linux distro. They could just modify whatever exist for Android TV and throw a tab for Steam on the top.
For me it’s honestly been impressive just using my steam deck as a home console while docked. It’s obviously closer to looking like Nintendo switch graphics than a PS5 but it has been more than capable of playing the majority of my games just fine.
If valve makes a console,
They have to invest in customer service.
0/10 company to need help from.
Can’t see how they aren’t violating anti-trust/monopoly laws as it is with Steam.
Shame.
SHAME.
The question is would a new company from scratch be able to do it and develop a solid brand or a company who is making other consumer electronic products more qualified?
We need more competition.