Axial Racing SCX10ii Brushless power
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- We install and test the Trailmaster BLE Pro controller and Puller Pro 540 motor. Overkill?
Parts list:
SCX10ii kit
XT60 plugs
3800mah 11.1v 35c battery
Holmes TrailMaster BLE PRO ESC
Holmes Puller Pro 540 3500kv motor
Holmes SHV500 brushless 12v servo
you've sold me on getting this rig, can't wait until she gets here.
Hope you like it as much as we do!
Love that set up!I'll definitely be looking for some of your other combinations! I can't wait to get a SCX 10 II!!!!
Another nice video, Nice clean set up, I like how you have the on/off switch removed. Looking forward to more.
Heck yes Mr Holmes,, loved the review on the new servo!! Soon as I get saved up I'll have myself one! Great videos sir👍
Thank you so much on the detail in this vid!
This set up is going in my new wraith for sure.
Cool video! I have a new 2200kv my self waiting for my kit to arrive. I hope it will give me enough speed to work as a trailing/crawling rig! :)
nice build john, looking forward to seeing how you landscape the back yard.
John, loving your videos. I'm getting back into the hobby after a 10 year or so break. I actually met you down at a scale comp in Ga back when you were just breaking into the hobby. I'm so happy you are killing it now! I'm looking for a brushless set up for my scx10ii and cant decide between the mamba x or the HH ble pro with the 540 stubby. Would love to see a video on it. Also, would really enjoy a technical video on all the new chargers, batteries, raiders that you personally use. Thanks
I would choose the mamba X for more future flexibility. A stubby would be a great choice for the 10ii. Thanks for the ideas. Would it have been the Augusta scale comp by chance?
Awesome video!!! That's exactly what I was looking for!!! Gonna pull the trigger on this motor and esc setup of yours!!!
Perfect combo; exactly the wheelspeed I'm looking for.👏👏👏
Excellent video! I just ordered this motor & esc combo a couple days ago. Definitely excited to install it on my scx10 ii and test it out!
I bet you must have heard all kinds of jokes or references to "John Holmes" growing up......lol Great crawler
Still do. It doesn't help that the business is on Sexton Rd. ...
@@HolmesHobbies LMAO
I just put a puller pro in my toyzuki v2, awesome power.
great video! That's a sweet rig and the motor seems like It would be perfect for my yeti. I'm running a castle 1410 3800 and a Tekin Rx8 gen2, on 3s and it has lots of speed and torque but is kinda twitchy on startup.
Really enjoying the Trailmaster BLE pro Mr.Holmes, though Im running 2200 Kv version of the puller pro. Thinking I might get your 2700 kv to find my happy medium. Looking foward to some more test/run vids.
Also as far as overkill? If you installed the 2 speed thats available for this AX2 trans, than yes its absolutely INSANE with this combo, doesnt matter which kv you got, bashing in a scaler? Oh yes. Can be done.
Peter North called - he wants to collab with you, John.
Love all the overkill horsepower!!! And hopefully WATERPROOF??? I love the idea of a Scale Trail truck, being able to do rolling burnouts!!! ;)
ESC and servo handles water, but the motors do need cleaning after water so they don't rust bearings.
@@HolmesHobbies would that be as simple as a after-run WD40 squirt to the bearings?
@@paulmccarter908 good question paul..im going to lear whats what..40 yrs loved rc..had boats long time ago..had a passion to have a helicopter..hear costly..more so that doing a crawler..I would love to have some kind of crawler..you could get an hr or better out of use..I know a lot of comps i hear you could not use like a 4 wheel steer unit..unless its like a super comp class..1/4 scale i think..still trying to learn..want to get something nice in size..to enjoy to learn and have fun..gimping around w a cane dont help im shur..lol.but do would love to get something..i as said..love that 4 wheel thingy ..for crawling around..
think mb even a 1/8th be a good size to have some fun with..dual steer 4x4..
@@paulmccarter908 I would say yes to WD40 to displace the water from the bearings, but then use bearing oil to lubricate them!
I havent converted yet, still using nimh and brushed…but now using 13t…plenty fast for me
Nice set up must have on my next build
nicee vids.. like your setting kit verymuch...
great info. i am deciding rt now on another scx10 ii kit electronics purchase. wondering if i should go brushless. thanks for the video and test run
Brushless is pretty dang nice these days. Just depends on how much wheelspeed you want, and if you want to think long term lack of maintenance.
Sold will be my next combo
Its always nice to have a little extra....
So why do most people use a BEC if you can wire the servo straight to the battery?
No...that's not overkill.
I'm more of a 2200 & 2700kv fan although I do like the 3300kv Stubby. I have the 3500kv XL just sitting there. Probably try it in my Summit one of these days.
Hey I'm looking at buying a brushless Puller Pro motor soon for my wraith. I'm torn between 2200 and 2700 kv. From your experience what will the top speed for both motors? I really want low speed performance and don't mind my top speed. I just want to be able to go a little over walking pace. Have you owned both a 2200 and 2700?
Taco I haven’t owned the 2700kv.
I bought all my Holmes brushless stuff when all he had was 2200kv and 3300kv Stubby and Standard and a 3500kv XL. I have them all but the 3300kv Standard. I always wanted something between the 2200 and 3300. The 2700kv fits that nicely. The 3300 it just a bit too jumpy for me...kinda like gearing down a brushed 21-turn motor for crawling....it works but there's better options( that's just me). To me the 3300 is more of a Rock-Bouncer motor. Regardless it's a great motor.
I think you'd be happy with a 2200kv to a 2700kv Stubby or Standard. 2200kv feels like a 45-turn on start-up and still hits some nice speed for those occasional dirt climbs. I usually run mine on 3s and 4s. My next motor will be a 2700kv.
The Stubby's were specifically designed for crawling and start-up....and they have ridiculous amounts of torque....I was told they have the same size magnet as the bigger ROC 412 motors. First time I installed one in my truck.... I barely touched the throttle and I held on to my truck.... it squatted down and tried to rip carpet out of the ground.
Tom
Hey man thanks for the reply! You seem to know A LOT more about this RC stuff than me. One more thing. You were saying the stubby is more designed for crawling. Would you recommend a stubby for a Wraith? I think I was reading somewhere somebody recommended a standard motor for a wraith because of the bigger tires and bigger vehicle. I think I'm leaning more towards a 2200kv now that I have your opinion. Do you think the stubby 2200kv get above walking speed or would I want a standard? Seriously thanks for your help!
Just opinion....I lean towards a Stubby for a vehicle that's under 8 pounds. And a Standard for above that weight. Again that's my opinion. Because they are both very torquay Motors.
On 3s or 4s you'll have way more speed that a "walking pace".
I'd go the 2700kv Standard with a 10-tooth pinion....assuming your running 32-pitch gears. Start there.
My TTC Truck is almost 10 pounds of medal and aluminum....bullet-proof truck. I use a 2200kv Standard and around a 14-tooth pinion. I have a great crawl and startup and an awesome top speed for a crawler. Your tires are taller than mine. I think that would be an excellent start for you. You can always get up or down from there.
A 10-tooth pinion will keep your motor cool too. 3s & 4s. I think you'll be pretty happy with that
Hey John, nice video. I was looking on your page and I could not find the standard 3500kv brushless setup. The closest I could find was the stubby 3300kv. I'm ordering the sc10 II and I would love to run that same setup, unless you have a better suggestion.
Thanks, shaun
it will be back in stock in a few weeks. for some reason it doesn't show up when out of stock
That much speed is out of scale
but it sure is fun!
well can't argue with that.
I assume this setup is sensored? If I wanted to run Puller Pro with a HW sensored ESC I currently have (that does have crawler software BTW), can I expect it to have similar slow speed and drag brake performance, or is that largely due to your ESC and software? Thanks in advance!
correct, sensored. We have no experience with the HW system to comment about low speed control. The motor will start smoothly if the ESC allows.
Hi Holmes! i am grabbing a yeti and was wondering which motor to go with. i was reading the rccrawler forums and there was a recommendation for the PP XL 3500kv but i no longer see that option on your site. there is only a 2100kv PP XL. which other motor would you recommend?
The Standard Puller Pro is plenty of power for the yeti as well. We will have the 3500kv XL back in stock soon though, about two weeks.
I‘ve just got my Hobby Wing Xerun 550 3300kv and it does not fit the Axial SCX10 II chassis. Any ideas?
Did you get it in there? Why did it not fit
@HolmesHobbies Hey I am looking to place an brushless ESC combo order soon and I am torn between 2200 and 2700 kv puller pro motors for my Wraith. I have stock gears but am willing to gear down. What would the top speed be of these motors be? I am looking for a bit over walking pace for my top speed but my main concern is low speed control. What do you suggest I buy?
2200Kv standard Puller would be our recommendation. The standard 540 is a better choice for most 2.2 rigs. Top speed with the 2200 on 11.1v will be around 10mph depending on gearing. Perfect choice for best low speed control without being too slow.
💪I like brushless ☠️🤘
Me too!
Wicked video John!! Just waiting for your 3500kv to be back on stock. By the way, what radio are you using. Pretty slick.
I believe it's a Flysky GT3C.
One of the best budget digital radio from China. Good looking though ;-)
can you show step by step how to install im new at this and i also want to install a servo winch
question here about this set up
wouldnt this set up to much strain on the gears?
im thinking of getting holes esc motor combo for my scx10 2 but im not sure which is a good set up
We still haven't broken anything, the rig is much stouter than people assume.
+HolmesHobbies thats awesome to hear sir holmes
may i ask how much this whole set up cost?
thank you
Hi interested in this setup for sure. If only I didn't just buy a castle system. I need a servo and wondered if you have more info on it. And will be selling the mmp and 4 pole for this I like the slow speed control it has. Must be sensored? Hard to see if there was a sensor wire also.
Check out HolmesHobbies.com for full information on our products. We are running sensors for smooth startup, yes.
Nice setup.
Between a puller pro 3500 kv and a trailmaster 3300 kv motor, which would you feel is better suited in an axial bomber for mainly crawling and some rock racing?
Puller Pro. Higher power and torque, and overall better control at low speed.
I'd like to get your opinion on what system you have that would work good on a bomber with 2 speed we have huge sawdust piles that we climb with paddle tires and then I'd also like to be able to crawl some too so maybe sensored brushless... I'm currently running a cc 3800kv several people has said use a system from you guys thanks in advance
If you have a sensored Castle ESC, then adding a sensored motor will help a lot. The Puller Pro 540 standard in 3500kv is a very good choice for great low speed control and plenty of wheelspeed. For hill climbing, a mamba max pro or Monster X are good choices.
So it’s safe to throw a traxxas Velineon in my axial scx10?
What would be the advantage of such a high speed steering servo? It doesn't look very scale. Competition maybe?
Performance. Crisp steering combined with mega torque is really nice on the rocks.
If nothing else, it creates confidence like you wouldn't believe. Even our dunger with a minor upgrade really changed the feel of things. Wish I could afford johns products, they look amazing. That lack of motor whine or esc noise, the delivery of bulk power, I could go on. You've done well and it's good to see industry has acknowledged it too.
are the gears all capable of the power output of brushless? just seems like so much power would wear everything out much much faster. id like to try it but not if the maintenance cost goes way up.
wait just did the math, and in canadian dollars I'd have to spend close to $700 to get this setup. all that just to increase the likelihood of breaking parts. yikes. I think I'll keep my crawler as strictly a crawler.
The transmission may have some issues. Going with a lower KV in the 2000 range will keep breakage down though.
What gearing? I just went with a castle 1406 4600kv and a hobbywing xr10 esc and it’s got 16t/87t and just to fast. Need to go down but don’t know what to get for gearing. Any help
thats a very vast motor. Try 13 87. You would be better suited with 3500kv or lower. 2700 is great for single speed rigs.
HolmesHobbies I geared it 11/58 and runs great. But now I’m having a glitching problem. I’ve got the traxxas 330oz servo and running the traxxas bec . Everything was fine till like an hour after running. Should I maybe unhook the bec and try it? I’m lost. My buddy Brian carter on Facebook got the 3brothers servo in his Trx4 and same motor and esc as me and is having the glitching problem also
The esc beeps sounded like a Castle esc?
Hi. what brushless system you recomend for a 7.5 vaterra ascender for crawling and a little trailing? Thanks
We have a 3300kv Puller Pro Stubby and BLE pro controller in our shop ascender. Maybe go with 2700kv if you don't want wheelie speeds.
Hey John could you send me the link to buy this option set up thanks bud great video
HolmesHobbies.com! Or Amain, RPP, and many other vendors that carry our product. I do have combos on my site with a discount.
How did u get the wheels not to rub on stock shocks?
cool video
Was that the SCX-10 II kit new transmission or the old transmission from the SCX-10?
This vid was a kit rig.
So, this could be a really good set up for trail running and realistic crawling, correct? By realistic I mean, crawling over rocks a real Jeep XJ could crawl over....yeah yeah...I'm a noob, but I've read so much I'm familiar with this RC thing...lol!
Very nice setup, is this still a good motor and esc combo or is there a newer model that would be good for my scx10 2
Still a great combo, mamba x or Copperhead 10 is the modern esc choice
Hey Holmes did you see any issues with the high-pinion with the KV killer ? BTW That servo is the cats ass !!
I just ordered my Scx10-ii, I would like some advice on which setup to go with. Do you still recommend this?
I would recommend the 2700kv range for most folks, but otherwise yes sir! Still rocking this combo right now, fantastic rig that has held up well.
+HolmesHobbies Ok thanks! With that ESC do I realy need a external BEC for my high torque servo?
+Mark you need an external bec for any high power servo, unless the servo runs direct from the battery like our SHV500.
One last question. Do you offer any coupon codes?
+Mark we do not, neither coupon or sales. it is tough enough to keep up with demand already!
Pretty impressive.i know im late but just subbed so im catching up..haha
Is brushless senseless motor waterproof
I want to turn my hpi savage into a brushless electric truck. What would you suggest? Any input would be great!
Probably go with a big Castle combo. That's what my old Flux had. A 1515 and mamba monster, it would do standing backflips. Of course it also broke all the time doing them...
idk man hard to beat brushed low end control and smoothness
hey john how can I get a hold of a revolver motor? I had one in my TLT crawler and miss it.
We will be releasing a sensorless version again this week!
What gearbox is that? my new SCX10 ii builders kit is different!
first gen kit
3s battery??
Nice:)
Do you guys distribute in europe?
Ok "Brushless" but is it waterproof again?
ka4172 yes it is
hey john will the b link work with the ble?
yes!
@@HolmesHobbies thank you
Would you still recommend the stock gearing for this setup?
Yes, stock gearing is great for stock sized tires.
Wterproof?
Yer brushless motors and esc’s are just rebranded castle creations systems
The ESCs are based on Castle hardware. None of my motors are Castle/nue derived, I select the stators and engineer the magnetics around it for the wanted performance.
did you hack your gt3c?
We purchased it already hacked from overkill RC. Worth the time to have him set it up.
@@HolmesHobbies Got quick question John.....I have a fkysky fs-gt3c can i use it on stock scx10-2 or I need to change my esc?? Thanks in advance...pls need your answer:) sorry I'm beginner...
@@rcnoypi8758 should work just fine
@@HolmesHobbies thanks John! Appreciate it...
That's too fast all it's guna do is fuck the transmission
Still hasn't broken. I'm a smooth driver though. You are right that the motor is a parts breaker in the wrong hands.
go mud
FRAGILE DESIGN! I live in rock infested Pennsylvania and the threaded inserts spun. Now i'm stuck with an axle that vanquish WILL NOT WARANTY!!! CRAzy glue em, weld em, just don't let em spin!!!!!. Piece of crap design!!!
the scx10ii vp axles?
It's the vanquish model. I am building one more, crazy glue the inserts in!
too many Kv
how is this or what would you recommend for a axial wraith rock racer i use for crawling and trailing... I want to crawl but go a little faster than stock if i could...
I would throw in a Puller Pro 540 in 2700 or 3500kv. My own wraith has a 3500kv motor in it with stock gearing, I absolutely love it.