Hearing Dr. Grande describe their story I thought this was a middle-aged couple dealing with a mid-life crisis, and then when I saw the picture I had to stop myself from chuckling. They have 4 kids, constantly argue, husband got a vasectomy, wife is probably cheating, and they're still in their early or mid 20's? These people live fast!
Four kids later she decides she doesn't love him? Four kids later he still doesn't have a clue what his wife needs? These people had no business having four children.
There are many older couples who go through the same thing too. People change with time then they fall out love. Apparently, she changed and fell out of love with him after she struggled with poor mental health.
@@cutienerdgirl that's ok, but they still made a dumb decision to have 4 kids. Its a serious choice to even have one they damn well better be prepared. The kids needs should be put before what they both want. They don't love each other anymore then tough, they need to take care of those kids first then they can do whatever. Dating while they have kids just adds so much more into the lives of the children who now have to see all of their drama. This is the problem people don't understand the responsibility that comes with it. Why do so many just excuse this type of behavior for parents?
Have to admit, after watching Dr. Grande's analysis, there's a strong urge to watch the actual video under scrutiny, but good sense dictates that these trash channels should not be given any views. To that end, I'm thankful to Dr. Grande for satisfying his viewers' morbid curiosity without actually necessitating the original drivel to be endured.
1:28 "…and 'Is this bad parenting'." The admirably restrained, barely susceptible raising of an eyebrow and knowing look tells us all _exactly_ what Dr. Grande’s answer is to that question!
@@floridasoldat the “likely to be influenced” raising of an eyebrow ☺️ maybe perceptible was what they meant to say but either way I love the comment from OP bc he did raise that eyebrow ever so slightly as we love the doctors dry comedy so much!
"The look of satisfaction on Oscar's face after changing a light bulb was disturbing" cracked me up. It was the "disturbing" part that got me. Lol! Dr. G. is hilarious!
As I listen to you summarize their video, it just leaves me with the question I've been wondering rhetorically over and over again when I contemplate the state of modern culture: WHY DO PEOPLE NEED TO SHARE THESE THINGS ON THE INTERNET? Nobody can live a private life anymore without broadcasting it to the entire world. It's so repulsive and bizarre to me.
Exploiting their children for money. They are millionaires because of it. She is greedy and self absorbed and he seemed naive to her manipulations. I feel sorry for those 4 children. It seems bizarre she got pregnant with the last baby when she wasn't in love with him.
I know, For me I would not turn on my video during a zoom meeting if I am working somewhere else in the house other than study room. It is beyond me how can any one broadcast their entire home life to the world.
the thing is, the answer to that is simple - they profit from it. what confuses me more is the people who consume this stuff? like, imagine spending your time watching a dude change a lightbulb? or some random people's gender reveal party? THAT is what i don't understand. After all, it's about supply and demand, since there is obviously demand (for whatever reason) people will supply and profit from it.
It broke my heart to see one of the kids wander in during the video undoubtedly overhearing the conversation but O&K go on to say they haven't told them. Kids smart and perceptive, they know something is going on and the parents should open and honest with them. They told the entire internet but not the people who it really affects and matters to the most?!
She could’ve sat him down, told him that she was unhappy, and then they could’ve figured out what changes could be made to make both of them happy, but I guess that makes too much sense
I don't need to know this couple to know what's going on here. They got married and had kids very young for their generation. Oscar is cool with it and probably feels like Kyra is a catch for him. Kyra is the more sexually curious, probably the more libidinous, and has FOMO about casual anonymous sex she sees people their age enjoying. She thinks she can probably trade up once she's had her fill of gettin that care-free stranger booty. She doesn't want to hurt his feelings or come off like a s-ut, but this is a story we see played out time and time again.
Exactly. She was monkey branching and is looking to go get her back blown out by a couple hundred Chads. She'll end up crying every night and drinking box wine in her 40s.
Shes a cheating smut. He needs to sell the house take all the money take custody of the children and send that women to the streets with the dude shes seeing.
Of course they are immature, they became parents at 16. They never got married, and Kyra twisted Oscar’s arm for years to get him to propose because it seemed like he did not want to or have any intention of marrying her. They never planned to become parents together and they were kids at the time themselves, so it’s not a surprise that now they would find themselves incompatible. I also don’t think it’s unreasonable for Kyra to wonder what it would be like to be in another relationship since she has never had a relationship as an adult besides her high school baby daddy.
As a long-time teacher, I have seen this situation over and over. A young couple gets tired of each other, decides to split, and then almost invariably they start jumping from one partner to another to another. Gave up trying to ask children to tell the class about their families--"Does that include my stepbrothers and sisters? my half brothers and sisters? the kids that belong to the dad or mom my dad or mom is living with right now?" A real tragedy for children who crave a unified family in my opinion.
You are so right about people overvaluing the ability to breed. I'm not suggesting that childbirth or good parenting is easy, but it's hardly a unique talent. (I'm now bracing for being yelled at.)
I’m a mom and I kinda agree. Even morons can raise a kid (thankfully otherwise our species wouldn’t be around 😅) Edit-parenting isn’t hard but good parenting is a skill IMO bc so many people aren’t “good” parents.
Very insightful point about how when someone has an affair, they very quickly devalue their partner and don’t value their long term qualities and overvalue the excitement of the affair. Super interesting!
"I need to find myself" " It's not you, it's me" and " I love you , but I'm not in love with you" um that doesn't do him a whole lot of good. Do feel for the kids.
The wife in this case needs to understand that many men need direct talk about emotional needs. They are usually not mind readers or good at picking up body language clues.
That's not what's going on here. They got married and had kids very young for their generation. Oscar is cool with it and probably feels like Kyra is a catch for him. Kyra is the more sexually curious, probably the more libidinous, and has FOMO about casual anonymous sex she sees people their age enjoying. Plus, she thinks she can probably trade up once she's had her fill of gettin that care-free stranger booty. Two birds one stone. She doesn't want to hurt his feelings or come off like a s-ut, but this is a story we see played out time and time again.
Although this is true, if a man gets married and has four children he needs to understand that he must be involved in the family dynamic! I don't know the specifics of this particular case but often men do not participate fully in family functioning!
@@AllHijinksNoHighDinks They never got married. They started their channel to document their experiences as teen parents. They had been engaged for a few years prior to this breakup, getting engaged somewhere between babies 3 and 4.
I know how irrelevant this is to your video subject, but I'm really happy to see your channel is going so well. Congratulations on reaching the big million, Dr. Grande!
People using their kids and drama to farm TH-cam views is disgusting. Having your children IN videos is okay, if you understand putting your children out there carries a small risk. But forcing them to be in videos when they clearly don’t want to, or thinking it’s funny to post videos of your child having an anxiety attack or needs comforting and you’re shoving a camera in their face, or playing mean pranks on them, makes me sick. And this spread of manufactured drama videos… ugh. BUT the people who watch this garbage are just as bad because you’re perpetuating the demand which increases the supply of such garbage.
Yep. Occasionally, my 8 year old is in my videos for projects for Gish (an annual scavenger hunt). But he's not in my personal YT videos, aside from the very rare cameo.
@@GenXfrom75 I think that is totally fine. But I remember that one lady who adopted the Chinese boy who ended up having behavioral problems, and she would be recording him while he was having breakdowns and just really being condescending to this tiny child. She even duct taped his thumbs down so he wouldn’t suck his thumbs. And videotaped it all for TH-cam. Then sent him back. Ugh.
@@HeatherHolt oh my God, I remember... Treating kids like objects. Yeah, there should be laws to protect the kids from all the filming these days, like the labor laws for the movie industry. It's the same thing, just a smaller scale.
@@GenXfrom75 it really is. Daddy of five was another terrible family channel. What’s scary is I’m sure there are tons we don’t even know about that never get views and could be horrible and go unreported.
Life without being exposed is already a full dish. I can understand the overwhelming stress of coping with children and family life can put you in a constant rolling wheel, up to a point you really need a break from it all. Having a vacation should help. Thank you for bringing this topic, Dr. Grande, and blessings to you 🙏🎉
I don't need to know this couple to know what's going on here. They got married and had kids very young for their generation. Oscar is cool with it and probably feels like Kyra is a catch for him. Kyra is the more sexually curious, probably the more libidinous, and has FOMO about casual anonymous sex she sees people their age enjoying. She thinks she can probably trade up once she's had her fill of gettin that care-free stranger booty. She doesn't want to hurt his feelings or come off like a s-ut, but this is a story we see played out time and time again.
Considering their current status: still living together and neither looking for another partner then yea this is just a dry patch that can be worked through. But i fear this is all for views
Yes! I was hoping a video would drop soon, so I kept refreshing my web page. It has been a tough day of work and this will help to get me through. Thank you Dr. Grande and congratulations on a million subs. Can't think of anyone else who deserves it more.
This two people are 25/26 and have 4 children and that’s a lot of pressure. They never got the chance to enjoy the years when you meet others, make stupid mistakes, hang out with friends and basically be free.
“People tend to undervalue stability factors and obligations, and overvalue the excitement of new relationships.” This is deep, Dr Grande. It has me thinking. 🤔
Hi my relationship is fixed back again my ex is back to me we loving and happily together, l got help from a great man who brought us back together....
How sad is it that I get most of my popular culture information from a middle aged psychiatrist on the Internet. Way to go Dr. Grande! Love your channel!
It is a well known fact that marital happiness goes down when raising young kids if this couple can just get some counseling to get through this that would be ideal. The grass may look greener on the other side but it still needs to be mowed. But what do I know? My husband and I have been together 51 years.
In all the type of situations I always think those poor kids that have to deal with whatever is happening and the added attention of the outside world without their choice
As a victim/survivor of my parents' divorce when I was nine, I can tell you the biggest victims of this breakup, IF real, will be the kids. I'm 66 and it still affects my life in terms of abandonment and loss. Even putting these issues of their marriage out in public for the kids to see at some point is incredibly selfish and immature.
Thanks for sharing but i think it depends maybe on how the parents handle it? My parents proke up when i was 5 or 6 and i wasnt too effected by it, mu friends parents broke up and he was devastated. I feel it can be a problem if the parents old stay together for the kids if they really aren't happy together. And that sets a better example for the kids.
Yes! Been waiting for this. The wife seems to be gloating to get a reaction from her husband and all for TH-cam views, the children popping their heads in from the back is devastating :-(
The wife is trying to get him to blow up so she can say he's a bad person and that's why she is cheating. She has to justify why it's his fault she started cheating on him and how it's his fault.
I've only seen bits of their channel but Kyra is always smiling and laughing....like a weird amount of laughing. I wonder if this is some coping mechanism or maybe medication she is on for mental illness. So just because she is laughing, doesn't mean she is having a good time or gloating.
You’re above this, Dr G, you do manage to make these tedious attention-seekers interesting but I’d much rather see your analysis of more interesting characters. I’d never heard of or watched the ‘OK Baby’ channel and following your video analysis, I’m not going to hunt it out. Channels like that seem to combine unhealthy aspects of both narcissism on the part of the ‘creators’ and idle voyeurism on the part of the viewers.
I hope he makes a video on the Notes from Underground, definitely an interesting character... I proposed it in an email but these things are probably ultimately decided by his patreons
@@lefish5277, there is but one difference between me and Dr Grande but alas, I fear it is enough to prevent me from making interesting videos about peoples’ personalities and behaviours: I am not a PhD qualified counsellor and former associate professor of a respected university.
Oh Dr G you really can make a bad morning so much better! Thank you for the video!! I will never understand how shows or people like this have an audience. I get people want to watch other people live their lives, usually because theirs is so bad but I will never understand why. I'm with your theory about this entire thing being staged. I'm not sure these people know how to make a good decision.
It’s interesting to know that Kyra posted an Instagram story (last night I think?) where she’s doing skincare standing in front of a door and the door has a massive hole in it - somebody asks about it and she laughs and says “yeah I punched the door” ☠️ it’s all going well in the OKbaby house 😂
That is very disturbing and indicates some serious issues in that woman. I used to have a spot on my wall in my old house where my now-ex had punched a wall. I hung a picture over it. In the latter part of my time in that house, whenever I got an itch to get back together with him, I’d pull the picture down and look at that hole in the wall. That would usually cure that impulse right quick.
Video couldn’t have been timed more perfectly for me. Just yesterday, I was looking to see if you had done one on these two. 😂 Very excited. Thanks, Dr Grande!
Don’t put your family problems on the internet. If your TH-cam family thing is done, then it’s done. It’s not the whole world’s business. This is not good for your children, or yourselves.
At first I was like "Four kids by 25?" But then I realized that we had three before I turned 24🤣(we still have just three and I'm 38). Having kids, especially a lot of kids at a young age, and maintaining a relationship is hard. I think she kept having kids so she wouldn't have to face the fact that she doesn't know who she is. Once he got a vasectomy (regardless of her wishes in the matter) she had to face the fact that she doesn't know herself outside of being a baby factory, and that's a scary thing to face at first. The way she ended the relationship was very immature. She has a lot of growing up to do. She now has to decide if she's going to do it. I chose to, but I wasn't so much immature as lost. Whatever they are doing, they need to figure out how get to some kind of concrete stability for the sake of those children. Growing up in limbo makes can make children feel very insecure.
My husband on the other hand knew who he was, but was very immature. Once he grew up a bit, it really helped me be able to get to a place where I understand myself better.
Do I only imagine Dr. Grande suffering through each sentence of this summary? Maybe I'm only projecting my own feelings - never heard of them and wish I never had
I would like to see you analyze the case of Nicholas Tuinstra. He killed his estranged wife and her boyfriend in Berlin, WI on Sept 27, 2014. I've always wondered why his defense attys didn't call any mental health witnesses. (I was on the jury that convicted him).
@@tylergee3043 I’d also be interested in hearing this too. I’ve always wondered about what ending up on such a jury would be like. I’ve been told that people with mental disorders like mine disqualify one for jury duty so I don’t expect to ever be called upon for it, and I know usually it is a boring thing. But I do get curious
Families like this make me infinitely grateful that my father has a talent for breaking video cameras. He would tape one ballet recital, drop the camera. One graduation, step on the screen 🤣
Interesting analysis of what is likely the two least interesting people on the planet. For about half a second I considered popping over to their channel to see who these individuals were (having never heard of them). I quickly thought better of it, and decided that watching another Jeffrey Dahmner video would be less disturbing. Keep up the good work, Dr. G! Oh, the "light bulb" comment... Hahah...I need some ice for that burn! :-)
What a great video, and loved what you said about how the children are "involuntary participants", and how their every action is on display to the world forever! Also loved the solid advice/thoughts at the end!
Seventies baby here too - born in 1973!😍👍 I'm also a PROUD firstborn, with a younger sister (born in 1979) & brother (born in 1985).🥰 SO HAPPY that our parents have been married for 52 years!!💞🥂👩❤️💋👨
I totally agree with this take, I thought the same thing - the breakup is either fake because she hasn't pushed out a kid for a while and they are losing views, OR it is real because he was basically just a sperm donor after she realised how much money she could make from a pregnancy, but he made the decision to have a vasectomy.
Dr. Grande! Good morning from Texas! Could you please cover the case of Cody Metzker-Madsen, the adopted child who claimed he murdered his foster brother because he believed he was a goblin? Super interesting case
I just see a lot of immaturity in this situation. My two cents in marriage, I think that a successful marriage involves, among other things, a lot of sacrifice. In addition, after having children the relationship will invariably change, and if their mindset remains the same, then problems will definitely arise. As we grow as a person, we should also evolve as a couple. That’s just my opinion. Great video Dr. Grande, thank you.❤️
Their breakup video is by far one of the worst videos I have ever seen on TH-cam. She has literally every bad personality trait imaginable. I’ve watched literal beheadings on the internet and not even that made me cringe as hard as this video did.
@@Kat-tr2ig I know it’s sounds kind of stupid but at least you know what to expect. The terrorist aren’t pretending to be good, wholesome people. This women on the other hand is clearly trying the manipulate her ex boyfriend and their audience
Dr. Grande, I would love to hear your thoughts on the apparent suicide of former Miss USA Chelsi Kryst. It seems like she really did "have it all", but I suppose one never knows what a person is dealing with. Any ideas on why she might do this?
Dr Grande you really DO expose yourself to such dangerously banal content to entertain us. We thank you for summarising this emotional mediocrity but please do take care of yourself with appropriate aftercare to get the stink off of you. 👍
I am a mom. Proud to be a mom. At this point in my life I feel a level of personal assurance that my skill set as a mom could go, pro-level. Lol ….Therefore my vote is for the kids. If the parents split up then the kids will be missing out on the family unit possibly? However in some domestic domiciles the kids could be better off in possibly another situation? So since the kids were not able to consent to this parental filming. Again, my heart ❤️ of humanity goes out to the kids.🤔❤️🇺🇸
The fact that they exploit their children on the daily shows they don't prioritize them. It's so sad 💔 I don't even post my kids on social media let alone all over YT. Eek. It sounds staged though, just for clicks.
“Look at us! We can reproduce!” “The look of satisfaction on his face was…disturbing.” Oh I appreciate you so much, Dr. G! Have a terrific Tuesday!! 🤣😘
A cautionary tale about combining romance, business and children and the inevitable pitfalls. As per usual this was an insightful and educational video. Thank you, Dr. Grande!❤
I'll never understand how people get so many viewers on these silly, immature/drama-filled, boring shows. Huh. Anyway good points again. Thanks Dr G😊💟💟
Thank you so very much, Dr. Grande. Not only do you give true insight, but I don't always know the subject about which you cover. I'll never follow or listen to these type of channels ever. I'm sorry you have to when breaking it down. Stay sane, Dr. Grande 😘
13:40 "As always, I hope you found my analysis of this topic to be more intriguing than changing a lightbulb...." 🤣....I was thinking 'changing a diaper'..hehe....As always, Dr. Grande, love your dry-wit humor! 🌵
It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on a psychological portrait of someone who enjoys watching family vlogs (or any type of vlogs for that matter). I just can’t wrap my head around the fact that this type of content is very popular 🤔
Oscar being shocked and not understanding why Kira doesn't want to stay in the relationship isn't strange. I told my now ex husband many times that I was unhappy, that he didn't listen to me, that changes had to be made, that I didn't like it when he insulted me, humiliated me, threatened me, shoved me against the wall, pulled my hair, broke my things, tried to kill our dog, put a knife up to my throat, went through my phone, stalked me when I left the house and etc. Even though I told him these things on a daily basis for over 5 years, and then found out he was cheating on me, he was SHOCKED when I said I wanted a divorce, and even went on to say that he couldn't believe that I was breaking up with him and that he loved me SO SO MUCH, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU'RE RUINING OUR MARRIAGE, WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL ME YOU WERE THIS UNHAPPY. *eyeroll emoji
@bruinsSeriously? I thought it was pretty clear, but let me explain it so you can understand. Kira said on numerous occasions that Oscar wasn't meeting her needs, and then he acted shocked when she said it pubically. He's being obtuse, which is what my ex husband did- after telling him repeatedly something he would act shocked when I took action, as if he had no clue. Now do you understand? Or are you going to act shocked, too?
@@Kat-tr2ig I am glad you have gotten out of your situation, but nothing Dr. Grande has described here in the OKbaby situation is as horrendous as yours. So, that's why not comparable.
That would be truly awful... especially because I have read that her doctors have advised her to not get pregnant again ever as another pregnancy would kill her.
My oldest was born in 1995. I cannot imagine putting all this personal information out into the world. I don’t think my kids would monetize their relationships. I’m not judging so much as bewildered by all of this.
I've never heard of these people, but I follow a couple that vlogs their travels in Mexico. They broke up but are trying to salvage the channel. Tying your source of income to your personal life seems like a great idea, until it isn't. Putting yourself under such a spotlight, reading potentially hurtful comments, etc adds to any stress that one would go through in a breakup. And, the chances of your channel surviving long term is probably low so you need to eventually find a new way to earn a living as well.
"Instead of okay baby he was thinking more about no baby 👶 " Lol 😆 Dr. Grande you are killing me.. I'm not a fan of the family channels either. Thank you for the analysis!
I’ve been alive for awhile. I’ve seen this so many times. she got bored and met someone else but she wants to keep up appearances and keep the channel bringing in money. The guy is going to have a really rude awakening when he realizes that she’s been cheating on him for awhile, he will get ordered to pay ~40% of his post tax income to her and he may get kicked out of his house via an “ex parte” restraining order. Perhaps the new guy will even take his spot on the channel. They can rename it chadKbaby
Way oversimplified. Not every divorce ends in losing half your stuff. Especially being so young there wasn’t even alimony involved in my personal experience. I’ve been cheated on and I don’t think you can claim motivation for that either. You’ve been alive for a while but you’ve never been a young couple displaying their entire family online for money. Nor have you been either one of the people involved in their relationship.
This is exactly me, given a hypothetical situation, debating with myself on various possible scenarios and outcomes rofl. This is just pure indulgence Dr. Grande I am INTP too and what you're doing is exactly what I love to do analyzing hahaha thank you sir, you're my virtual friend who I debate with during these videos. I know you use OCEAN, but sorry when I meet my fellow INTP I cannot help but silently laugh inside.
History proves breakups end people's interest in watching these types of shows. Remember "Little People" on TLC? They will likely see a boost in their viewership initially due to channels like yours bringing attention to their drama, but I have no interest in watching people destroy their family as entertainment.
Why do people watch such channels???? It's all fake, empty and depressing. There's nothing satisfying about lifestyle channels. Is it that the people watching have no life and need to live vicariously through these people? And as for the children, what's so interesting about watching other people's kids? Do the people watching have no children of their own? Furthermore, children aren't supposed to be on display for strangers, have no say in been seen by millions and aren't their authentic selves in front of cameras which can mess up their development mentally and spiritually. I really don't get any of it.
If your spouse suddenly starts being mean, distant, suggesting you deserve better, wanting you to find someone else, wanting to 'find' themselves - they are likely cheating or want to. They're VERY obvious red flags. Her saying there were problems for the past year (he was surprised by that) - She has been cheating for a year
Fantastic analysis as always Dr Grande…if anything, credit to Oscar for having a vasectomy (or, at least telling her he had one :), and not bringing any more unconsenting family channel cast members into the world. 4 young children is a lot for the strongest and most mature relationships. Looking forward to seeing what the cacti get up to for Valentine’s Day 👑
To those who wonder why there's this kind of private "announcement" on YT or TV, I have a couple of ideas: 1. That's literally how they make a living. It's demand and supply, if you're watching then there're people making them. That's why most TV and news are driven toward click-bait instead of true journalism. And hey, it's free speech. 2. I used to despise these kinds of shows/content, but looking through the lens of a psychologist like Dr. Grande or a Couple therapist like Dr. Kirk Honda, you actually learn a lot and can relate to your own experience.
That was a really deep analysis of a family channel breakup. “The heart wants what it wants.” That was perfect. I actually have felt that way in a relationship. My first relationship. I fell out of love. I ended up breaking his heart, but I wanted to go to college in Germany and focus on my studies. Glad I listened to my heart. I felt awful for hurting him, but 20 was too young for me to be in a serious relationship. I didn’t get married until I was 30.
I'm sorry but when you have 4 kids the heart wants what the heart wants is not a good enough reason to blow up a family of 4 little kids. That's being so so selfish. Her wants should come after the wants and needs of her kids. She's cheating on him and trying to make it about anything other than the truth.
Love you Dr. Grande.....I hate these family blogs that exploit their children. It amazes me how stupid and boring these videos are and yet they make a ton of money putting all the crap out for the world to see. Thank you Dr. You are awesome.
Yes, that one made me LOL too. I had never heard of these people until today. I watched one video of theirs, with Oscar taking the kids to the park (back in 2019). Then the ride home showcased Oscar having difficulty "holding it in" because there were no open bathrooms at the park. I thought to myself, "Really? This is what this TH-cam channel is all about? It's not for me." In the very beginning of the video the kids were cute, but I could barely make it to the end of the 13-minute long video.
How refreshing! A man decides he's done with having children and takes responsibility for his own fertility instead of expecting his mate to take care of the birth control. It wouldn't hurt for him to up his handyman skills but, in my opinion, this is a real man.
"There was one episode that literally featured Oscar changing a light bulb the look of satisfaction on his face after successfully changing the light bulb, was disturbing." Glorious 😂 I think Dr. Grande definitely has one of those "eew, people." T shirts 😆 I bet it's under that button up!🖤
I have a mature mutually friendly relationship with my child's father.... therapy on my end helped me address my issues. His? I dunno. He has his own life. He's a good father and my kid is well adjusted.
My husband and I had premarital counseling before we married where we discussed children, money, goals etc I was shocked we hadn't discussed much and even less in detail. Turned out we had similar views, although not by design, perhaps luck. I encourage all couples to take advantage of this, maybe the divorce rate would drop. I've not ever watched Instagram or TikTok. Everything I've heard about them tells me I've made a good decision. Thank you Dr. Although I'm concerned about your online choices, I believe your education and insight will buffer the possible toxic reactions.
Hearing Dr. Grande describe their story I thought this was a middle-aged couple dealing with a mid-life crisis, and then when I saw the picture I had to stop myself from chuckling. They have 4 kids, constantly argue, husband got a vasectomy, wife is probably cheating, and they're still in their early or mid 20's? These people live fast!
25 is the new 40 😂
LOL
You hit the nail on the head.
Ok, but genuinely thought the same! When I realized that we’re all the same age, I had to take a moment😰
Lol what the heck what a mess!
Four kids later she decides she doesn't love him? Four kids later he still doesn't have a clue what his wife needs? These people had no business having four children.
The people having the most children tend to be less intelligent and less educated.
Agreed. They definitely had no business having children. Future disaster in the making.
They’re Mormon. Nuff said
There are many older couples who go through the same thing too. People change with time then they fall out love. Apparently, she changed and fell out of love with him after she struggled with poor mental health.
@@cutienerdgirl that's ok, but they still made a dumb decision to have 4 kids. Its a serious choice to even have one they damn well better be prepared. The kids needs should be put before what they both want. They don't love each other anymore then tough, they need to take care of those kids first then they can do whatever. Dating while they have kids just adds so much more into the lives of the children who now have to see all of their drama.
This is the problem people don't understand the responsibility that comes with it.
Why do so many just excuse this type of behavior for parents?
Have to admit, after watching Dr. Grande's analysis, there's a strong urge to watch the actual video under scrutiny, but good sense dictates that these trash channels should not be given any views. To that end, I'm thankful to Dr. Grande for satisfying his viewers' morbid curiosity without actually necessitating the original drivel to be endured.
Was thinking the same thing.
I watched before seeing this. It's pretty cringe and full of multiple bad decisions being made. 🤦🏾♀️
Amen. Always felt this way too 👍👍
The Dad Challenge Podcast covered it.
"Drivel" - perfect description!
1:28 "…and 'Is this bad parenting'." The admirably restrained, barely susceptible raising of an eyebrow and knowing look tells us all _exactly_ what Dr. Grande’s answer is to that question!
Don’t think you know what “susceptible” means, but I agree Doc is the man lol
@@floridasoldat Perceptible, perhaps!
@@floridasoldat the “likely to be influenced” raising of an eyebrow ☺️ maybe perceptible was what they meant to say but either way I love the comment from OP bc he did raise that eyebrow ever so slightly as we love the doctors dry comedy so much!
Lol love it.
@@floridasoldatI think I meant "perceptible"? Sorry about that!
Privacy is a wonderful thing, especially for Children!!
Too bad almost no people this age value it or even understand what it means or why it's important
over the Top ! it should stay Private.
You mean those children who have several social media accounts where they are happy to post on a daily basis..? Those are the majority...
…and the fact that they admitted they’d filmed both videos before even bracing the topic even a little with their children… :0
Not so much for their narcissistic parents.
"The look of satisfaction on Oscar's face after changing a light bulb was disturbing" cracked me up. It was the "disturbing" part that got me. Lol! Dr. G. is hilarious!
His roasting is hilarious
@@yenh1144 Right?! The complete deadpan roasting, the miniscule crack in his professional façade. So funny!
I wheezed when he said that 😭🤣
Me too 🤣🤣🤣
"The amount of satisfaction on his face after changing the light bulb....was disturbing" I'm dead
Lolololllololl
SAME LOL
Dr G drier than James Bond’s martini 🍸😄
Same 🤣🤣
🤣😂🤣
As I listen to you summarize their video, it just leaves me with the question I've been wondering rhetorically over and over again when I contemplate the state of modern culture:
WHY DO PEOPLE NEED TO SHARE THESE THINGS ON THE INTERNET? Nobody can live a private life anymore without broadcasting it to the entire world. It's so repulsive and bizarre to me.
a lot of people crave attention
these craved money AND attention
perfect solution
Exploiting their children for money. They are millionaires because of it. She is greedy and self absorbed and he seemed naive to her manipulations. I feel sorry for those 4 children. It seems bizarre she got pregnant with the last baby when she wasn't in love with him.
I know, For me I would not turn on my video during a zoom meeting if I am working somewhere else in the house other than study room. It is beyond me how can any one broadcast their entire home life to the world.
the thing is, the answer to that is simple - they profit from it. what confuses me more is the people who consume this stuff? like, imagine spending your time watching a dude change a lightbulb? or some random people's gender reveal party? THAT is what i don't understand. After all, it's about supply and demand, since there is obviously demand (for whatever reason) people will supply and profit from it.
Only for profit which I understand it IS most profitable!
It broke my heart to see one of the kids wander in during the video undoubtedly overhearing the conversation but O&K go on to say they haven't told them. Kids smart and perceptive, they know something is going on and the parents should open and honest with them. They told the entire internet but not the people who it really affects and matters to the most?!
Wow you're completely right. When you put it in that perspective... they shouldn't have ever had kids. They can't even adult yet.
These ppl are odious
Gross
She could’ve sat him down, told him that she was unhappy, and then they could’ve figured out what changes could be made to make both of them happy, but I guess that makes too much sense
Lol. Agreed
I don't need to know this couple to know what's going on here. They got married and had kids very young for their generation. Oscar is cool with it and probably feels like Kyra is a catch for him. Kyra is the more sexually curious, probably the more libidinous, and has FOMO about casual anonymous sex she sees people their age enjoying. She thinks she can probably trade up once she's had her fill of gettin that care-free stranger booty. She doesn't want to hurt his feelings or come off like a s-ut, but this is a story we see played out time and time again.
Exactly. She was monkey branching and is looking to go get her back blown out by a couple hundred Chads. She'll end up crying every night and drinking box wine in her 40s.
Shes a cheating smut. He needs to sell the house take all the money take custody of the children and send that women to the streets with the dude shes seeing.
Im of the firm opinion that 80% of divorces are entirely unnessisary. None of there described problems are insurmoumtable.
Immaturity and selfishness is what I see. The goal should be a solid family platform for the kids. Not personal emotional gratification.
Exactly, she's throwing her family under the bus for personal gratification.
She has someone on the side. Blowing up her family but still keeping him around just in case the other guy stops seeing her.
Sexual gratification actually
you do know an unnhappy relationship is TERRIBLE for children to see right?
Of course they are immature, they became parents at 16. They never got married, and Kyra twisted Oscar’s arm for years to get him to propose because it seemed like he did not want to or have any intention of marrying her. They never planned to become parents together and they were kids at the time themselves, so it’s not a surprise that now they would find themselves incompatible. I also don’t think it’s unreasonable for Kyra to wonder what it would be like to be in another relationship since she has never had a relationship as an adult besides her high school baby daddy.
As a long-time teacher, I have seen this situation over and over. A young couple gets tired of each other, decides to split, and then almost invariably they start jumping from one partner to another to another. Gave up trying to ask children to tell the class about their families--"Does that include my stepbrothers and sisters? my half brothers and sisters? the kids that belong to the dad or mom my dad or mom is living with right now?" A real tragedy for children who crave a unified family in my opinion.
The whole"baby Mama" thing is kind of sickening to observe, too.
@@lynnehuff9659 yes it is. People continually get with the wrong people.
You are so right about people overvaluing the ability to breed. I'm not suggesting that childbirth or good parenting is easy, but it's hardly a unique talent. (I'm now bracing for being yelled at.)
People have been raising kids for thousands and thousands of years, it's more impressive the further you go back.
I’m a mom and I kinda agree. Even morons can raise a kid (thankfully otherwise our species wouldn’t be around 😅)
Edit-parenting isn’t hard but good parenting is a skill IMO bc so many people aren’t “good” parents.
I completely agree
@@HeatherHolt very well said!!
What I've been saying for years, only you put it better.
Very insightful point about how when someone has an affair, they very quickly devalue their partner and don’t value their long term qualities and overvalue the excitement of the affair. Super interesting!
It’s Grande time somewhere. Let’s do this. Thank you, Grande. So many stories, so little time.
I love this comment ♥️
If the cat has kittens will they ride in the back seat?
“Grande time somewhere” love the thought!
My cat is an excellent driver
The old “I cheated on you but to be fair, you didn’t do enough for me” strategy. Watch out for that one guys.
My BS meter is in the red !!!😀😁😂
In the first video she said something like “I only rested my head on a friends shoulder to support them during a rough time” 😅
"I need to find myself" " It's not you, it's me" and " I love you , but I'm not in love with you" um that doesn't do him a whole lot of good. Do feel for the kids.
No matter the topic, you always provide insight that makes your analysis worth listening too.
The wife in this case needs to understand that many men need direct talk about emotional needs. They are usually not mind readers or good at picking up body language clues.
That's not what's going on here. They got married and had kids very young for their generation. Oscar is cool with it and probably feels like Kyra is a catch for him. Kyra is the more sexually curious, probably the more libidinous, and has FOMO about casual anonymous sex she sees people their age enjoying. Plus, she thinks she can probably trade up once she's had her fill of gettin that care-free stranger booty. Two birds one stone. She doesn't want to hurt his feelings or come off like a s-ut, but this is a story we see played out time and time again.
Although this is true, if a man gets married and has four children he needs to understand that he must be involved in the family dynamic! I don't know the specifics of this particular case but often men do not participate fully in family functioning!
@@AllHijinksNoHighDinks They never got married. They started their channel to document their experiences as teen parents. They had been engaged for a few years prior to this breakup, getting engaged somewhere between babies 3 and 4.
@@thecakefate Sure, but thats really just a legal formality. The essence of the relationship was one of marriage.
@@bthomson Well said, B - I have no patience for men who think it‘s acceptable/ genetic to refuse to communicate. It‘s neither; just lazy.
I know how irrelevant this is to your video subject, but I'm really happy to see your channel is going so well. Congratulations on reaching the big million, Dr. Grande!
People using their kids and drama to farm TH-cam views is disgusting.
Having your children IN videos is okay, if you understand putting your children out there carries a small risk. But forcing them to be in videos when they clearly don’t want to, or thinking it’s funny to post videos of your child having an anxiety attack or needs comforting and you’re shoving a camera in their face, or playing mean pranks on them, makes me sick.
And this spread of manufactured drama videos… ugh. BUT the people who watch this garbage are just as bad because you’re perpetuating the demand which increases the supply of such garbage.
Yep. Occasionally, my 8 year old is in my videos for projects for Gish (an annual scavenger hunt). But he's not in my personal YT videos, aside from the very rare cameo.
Exactly
@@GenXfrom75 I think that is totally fine. But I remember that one lady who adopted the Chinese boy who ended up having behavioral problems, and she would be recording him while he was having breakdowns and just really being condescending to this tiny child. She even duct taped his thumbs down so he wouldn’t suck his thumbs. And videotaped it all for TH-cam. Then sent him back. Ugh.
@@HeatherHolt oh my God, I remember... Treating kids like objects. Yeah, there should be laws to protect the kids from all the filming these days, like the labor laws for the movie industry. It's the same thing, just a smaller scale.
@@GenXfrom75 it really is. Daddy of five was another terrible family channel. What’s scary is I’m sure there are tons we don’t even know about that never get views and could be horrible and go unreported.
Life without being exposed is already a full dish. I can understand the overwhelming stress of coping with children and family life can put you in a constant rolling wheel, up to a point you really need a break from it all. Having a vacation should help. Thank you for bringing this topic, Dr. Grande, and blessings to you 🙏🎉
Or maybe revenge, a dish best served cold. Whatever her motivation, it seems keeping their income would be enough to stay together.
I don't need to know this couple to know what's going on here. They got married and had kids very young for their generation. Oscar is cool with it and probably feels like Kyra is a catch for him. Kyra is the more sexually curious, probably the more libidinous, and has FOMO about casual anonymous sex she sees people their age enjoying. She thinks she can probably trade up once she's had her fill of gettin that care-free stranger booty. She doesn't want to hurt his feelings or come off like a s-ut, but this is a story we see played out time and time again.
Not all stages of marriages are romantic. Sometimes there are dry patches.
Considering their current status: still living together and neither looking for another partner then yea this is just a dry patch that can be worked through. But i fear this is all for views
This couple weren’t married
Yes my advice to a uoung couple is to take some distance a while and maybe find each other again
Yes! I was hoping a video would drop soon, so I kept refreshing my web page.
It has been a tough day of work and this will help to get me through.
Thank you Dr. Grande and congratulations on a million subs.
Can't think of anyone else who deserves it more.
Hope your work day gets better for you!!
I was just going to say this! This channel has nice fans!
As much as I love Todd Grande, no amount of effort can make me give a damn about these people.
Exactly
😂
This two people are 25/26 and have 4 children and that’s a lot of pressure. They never got the chance to enjoy the years when you meet others, make stupid mistakes, hang out with friends and basically be free.
“People tend to undervalue stability factors and obligations, and overvalue the excitement of new relationships.” This is deep, Dr Grande. It has me thinking. 🤔
Hi my relationship is fixed back again my ex is back to me we loving and happily together, l got help from a great man who brought us back together....
wh'stapp him now ..
How sad is it that I get most of my popular culture information from a middle aged psychiatrist on the Internet. Way to go Dr. Grande! Love your channel!
Who better?
I didn't know he was a psychiatrist 🤔
Not sad at all. 😃
I believe Dr. Grande has a doctorate in psychology.
It is a well known fact that marital happiness goes down when raising young kids if this couple can just get some counseling to get through this that would be ideal. The grass may look greener on the other side but it still needs to be mowed. But what do I know? My husband and I have been together 51 years.
congrats. !
In all the type of situations I always think those poor kids that have to deal with whatever is happening and the added attention of the outside world without their choice
It’s so sad. I wonder how it affects their development.
As a victim/survivor of my parents' divorce when I was nine, I can tell you the biggest victims of this breakup, IF real, will be the kids. I'm 66 and it still affects my life in terms of abandonment and loss. Even putting these issues of their marriage out in public for the kids to see at some point is incredibly selfish and immature.
sorry you dealt with that
@@rosellamarotta1675 Thank you 💖
Thanks for sharing but i think it depends maybe on how the parents handle it?
My parents proke up when i was 5 or 6 and i wasnt too effected by it, mu friends parents broke up and he was devastated.
I feel it can be a problem if the parents old stay together for the kids if they really aren't happy together.
And that sets a better example for the kids.
Yes! Been waiting for this. The wife seems to be gloating to get a reaction from her husband and all for TH-cam views, the children popping their heads in from the back is devastating :-(
They weren’t married. They started having babies in their teens. They both come from broken homes, so the end was inevitable.
@@jankirschke7425 no it wasn't from what I gather here. Better communication and keeping family of the internet could have given them half a chance
The wife is trying to get him to blow up so she can say he's a bad person and that's why she is cheating. She has to justify why it's his fault she started cheating on him and how it's his fault.
I've only seen bits of their channel but Kyra is always smiling and laughing....like a weird amount of laughing. I wonder if this is some coping mechanism or maybe medication she is on for mental illness. So just because she is laughing, doesn't mean she is having a good time or gloating.
@@vg7735 She's pretending. She's probably done it her whole life. False self.
You’re above this, Dr G, you do manage to make these tedious attention-seekers interesting but I’d much rather see your analysis of more interesting characters.
I’d never heard of or watched the ‘OK Baby’ channel and following your video analysis, I’m not going to hunt it out.
Channels like that seem to combine unhealthy aspects of both narcissism on the part of the ‘creators’ and idle voyeurism on the part of the viewers.
I’ve never heard of them either but if it’s relevant and he wants to cover it he’s going to
Or you could just
Yknow
Make your own videos
I hope he makes a video on the Notes from Underground, definitely an interesting character... I proposed it in an email but these things are probably ultimately decided by his patreons
@@lefish5277, there is but one difference between me and Dr Grande but alas, I fear it is enough to prevent me from making interesting videos about peoples’ personalities and behaviours: I am not a PhD qualified counsellor and former associate professor of a respected university.
@@AntoDesormeaux that's a great suggestion, it's like recognizing the worst parts of yourself, if it has a place and time to breed
Oh Dr G you really can make a bad morning so much better! Thank you for the video!! I will never understand how shows or people like this have an audience. I get people want to watch other people live their lives, usually because theirs is so bad but I will never understand why. I'm with your theory about this entire thing being staged. I'm not sure these people know how to make a good decision.
Hope your afternoon is terrific!😘
It’s interesting to know that Kyra posted an Instagram story (last night I think?) where she’s doing skincare standing in front of a door and the door has a massive hole in it - somebody asks about it and she laughs and says “yeah I punched the door” ☠️ it’s all going well in the OKbaby house 😂
Hi my relationship is fixed back again my ex is back to me we loving and happily together, l got help from a great man who brought us back together.
wh'stapp him
十2348050772031⏯⏯(☉｡☉)!.
That is very disturbing and indicates some serious issues in that woman.
I used to have a spot on my wall in my old house where my now-ex had punched a wall. I hung a picture over it. In the latter part of my time in that house, whenever I got an itch to get back together with him, I’d pull the picture down and look at that hole in the wall. That would usually cure that impulse right quick.
Video couldn’t have been timed more perfectly for me. Just yesterday, I was looking to see if you had done one on these two. 😂
Very excited. Thanks, Dr Grande!
Don’t put your family problems on the internet. If your TH-cam family thing is done, then it’s done. It’s not the whole world’s business. This is not good for your children, or yourselves.
At first I was like "Four kids by 25?" But then I realized that we had three before I turned 24🤣(we still have just three and I'm 38). Having kids, especially a lot of kids at a young age, and maintaining a relationship is hard. I think she kept having kids so she wouldn't have to face the fact that she doesn't know who she is. Once he got a vasectomy (regardless of her wishes in the matter) she had to face the fact that she doesn't know herself outside of being a baby factory, and that's a scary thing to face at first. The way she ended the relationship was very immature. She has a lot of growing up to do. She now has to decide if she's going to do it. I chose to, but I wasn't so much immature as lost. Whatever they are doing, they need to figure out how get to some kind of concrete stability for the sake of those children. Growing up in limbo makes can make children feel very insecure.
My husband on the other hand knew who he was, but was very immature. Once he grew up a bit, it really helped me be able to get to a place where I understand myself better.
wow, I'm a virgin at 23 🤣 curses of being ugly I guess. Good analysis though, I agree
Do I only imagine Dr. Grande suffering through each sentence of this summary? Maybe I'm only projecting my own feelings - never heard of them and wish I never had
I would like to see you analyze the case of Nicholas Tuinstra. He killed his estranged wife and her boyfriend in Berlin, WI on Sept 27, 2014. I've always wondered why his defense attys didn't call any mental health witnesses. (I was on the jury that convicted him).
I live in Neshkoro, hard to believe that was 8 years ago.
I've heard of that case, second this comment.
What was your experience being on a jury for such a serious trial?
@@tylergee3043 I’d also be interested in hearing this too. I’ve always wondered about what ending up on such a jury would be like.
I’ve been told that people with mental disorders like mine disqualify one for jury duty so I don’t expect to ever be called upon for it, and I know usually it is a boring thing.
But I do get curious
@@ladyolinden How would they know beforehand that you have a mental disorder?
Families like this make me infinitely grateful that my father has a talent for breaking video cameras. He would tape one ballet recital, drop the camera. One graduation, step on the screen 🤣
🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Interesting analysis of what is likely the two least interesting people on the planet. For about half a second I considered popping over to their channel to see who these individuals were (having never heard of them). I quickly thought better of it, and decided that watching another Jeffrey Dahmner video would be less disturbing. Keep up the good work, Dr. G! Oh, the "light bulb" comment...
Hahah...I need some ice for that burn! :-)
He can make anything interesting!
@@bthomson Agree - and funny too! :-)
Legit 🤣
What a great video, and loved what you said about how the children are "involuntary participants", and how their every action is on display to the world forever!
Also loved the solid advice/thoughts at the end!
Glad I'm a 70s baby. Couldn't imagine being raised by these kind of people. What's your biggest achievement this year? I changed a light-bulb 😁
Right?? Lol (born in 1975 here)
Seventies baby here too - born in 1973!😍👍 I'm also a PROUD firstborn, with a younger sister (born in 1979) & brother (born in 1985).🥰 SO HAPPY that our parents have been married for 52 years!!💞🥂👩❤️💋👨
To be fair, it isn't always easy to change the light bulbs. Once there was a spider near the light bulb and I simply couldn't do it.
Suddenly 50 something doesn’t feel so bad anymore
There was definitely cheating. We all know what “excitement seeking” means.
wow I didn't think you'd cover this. Can't wait to see your analysis.
I totally agree with this take, I thought the same thing - the breakup is either fake because she hasn't pushed out a kid for a while and they are losing views, OR it is real because he was basically just a sperm donor after she realised how much money she could make from a pregnancy, but he made the decision to have a vasectomy.
Dr. Grande! Good morning from Texas! Could you please cover the case of Cody Metzker-Madsen, the adopted child who claimed he murdered his foster brother because he believed he was a goblin? Super interesting case
ooo i actually havent heard of this one!!! thank u
@@theSavvi101 the channel dave’s lemonade has a good overview of the case! but i do want to hear Grande’s perspective
I hadn't heard about this, what a sad story!
@@sophie9247 i looove that channel too!! thank you so much!
My ex-wife cheated on me and said the exact same shit. Like you said, we have no way of knowing. But I’m going with cheating
I just see a lot of immaturity in this situation. My two cents in marriage, I think that a successful marriage involves, among other things, a lot of sacrifice. In addition, after having children the relationship will invariably change, and if their mindset remains the same, then problems will definitely arise. As we grow as a person, we should also evolve as a couple. That’s just my opinion.
Great video Dr. Grande, thank you.❤️
Their breakup video is by far one of the worst videos I have ever seen on TH-cam. She has literally every bad personality trait imaginable. I’ve watched literal beheadings on the internet and not even that made me cringe as hard as this video did.
You cringed more at a breakup than at people literally getting brutally murdered? Weird flex but ok
@@Kat-tr2ig i think it might be a bit hyperbolic dude
@@Kat-tr2ig I know it’s sounds kind of stupid but at least you know what to expect. The terrorist aren’t pretending to be good, wholesome people. This women on the other hand is clearly trying the manipulate her ex boyfriend and their audience
@@john_m3619 same af
@@Ron.Swanson. why? that shit can be found on the internet, it didn't seem hyperbolic
10:00 fully with you. For me it's just boring looking at families "familying".
Dr. Grande, I would love to hear your thoughts on the apparent suicide of former Miss USA Chelsi Kryst. It seems like she really did "have it all", but I suppose one never knows what a person is dealing with. Any ideas on why she might do this?
Dr Grande you really DO expose yourself to such dangerously banal content to entertain us. We thank you for summarising this emotional mediocrity but please do take care of yourself with appropriate aftercare to get the stink off of you. 👍
😂😂😂
I am a mom. Proud to be a mom. At this point in my life I feel a level of personal assurance that my skill set as a mom could go, pro-level. Lol ….Therefore my vote is for the kids. If the parents split up then the kids will be missing out on the family unit possibly? However in some domestic domiciles the kids could be better off in possibly another situation? So since the kids were not able to consent to this parental filming. Again, my heart ❤️ of humanity goes out to the kids.🤔❤️🇺🇸
The fact that they exploit their children on the daily shows they don't prioritize them. It's so sad 💔 I don't even post my kids on social media let alone all over YT. Eek. It sounds staged though, just for clicks.
“Look at us! We can reproduce!”
“The look of satisfaction on his face was…disturbing.”
Oh I appreciate you so much, Dr. G! Have a terrific Tuesday!! 🤣😘
A cautionary tale about combining romance, business and children and the inevitable pitfalls. As per usual this was an insightful and educational video. Thank you, Dr. Grande!❤
Sounds like she found someone else and started making him miserable.
I think you've put into words why I have never been into family channels. Thanks!
Kiras words screams she found another dude.
ooh yes! ive been wanting for you to speculate on this video!
I'll never understand how people get so many viewers on these silly, immature/drama-filled, boring shows. Huh. Anyway good points again. Thanks Dr G😊💟💟
Thank you so very much, Dr. Grande. Not only do you give true insight, but I don't always know the subject about which you cover.
I'll never follow or listen to these type of channels ever. I'm sorry you have to when breaking it down. Stay sane, Dr. Grande 😘
Please, please consider doing a video about Katie Joy of Without a Crystal Ball.
13:40 "As always, I hope you found my analysis of this topic to be more intriguing than changing a lightbulb...." 🤣....I was thinking 'changing a diaper'..hehe....As always, Dr. Grande, love your dry-wit humor! 🌵
Perfect timing as always my Doc !
It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on a psychological portrait of someone who enjoys watching family vlogs (or any type of vlogs for that matter). I just can’t wrap my head around the fact that this type of content is very popular 🤔
The look on his face after changing a light bulb was.... disturbing 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Oscar being shocked and not understanding why Kira doesn't want to stay in the relationship isn't strange. I told my now ex husband many times that I was unhappy, that he didn't listen to me, that changes had to be made, that I didn't like it when he insulted me, humiliated me, threatened me, shoved me against the wall, pulled my hair, broke my things, tried to kill our dog, put a knife up to my throat, went through my phone, stalked me when I left the house and etc. Even though I told him these things on a daily basis for over 5 years, and then found out he was cheating on me, he was SHOCKED when I said I wanted a divorce, and even went on to say that he couldn't believe that I was breaking up with him and that he loved me SO SO MUCH, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU'RE RUINING OUR MARRIAGE, WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL ME YOU WERE THIS UNHAPPY. *eyeroll emoji
@bruinsSeriously? I thought it was pretty clear, but let me explain it so you can understand. Kira said on numerous occasions that Oscar wasn't meeting her needs, and then he acted shocked when she said it pubically. He's being obtuse, which is what my ex husband did- after telling him repeatedly something he would act shocked when I took action, as if he had no clue. Now do you understand? Or are you going to act shocked, too?
Incontinent babbling about your personal problems.
@@eadweard. Just say you failed reading comprehension in school and move on. It's ok, not everyone is smart.
@@Kat-tr2ig It says _incontinent_ not _incoherent_ . Reading comprehension indeed.
@@Kat-tr2ig I am glad you have gotten out of your situation, but nothing Dr. Grande has described here in the OKbaby situation is as horrendous as yours. So, that's why not comparable.
I think this is her way of punishing him for going against her wishes and having a vasectomy, she can't forgive him.
That would be truly awful... especially because I have read that her doctors have advised her to not get pregnant again ever as another pregnancy would kill her.
The deadpan delivery of the video titles. World-class Grande.
My oldest was born in 1995. I cannot imagine putting all this personal information out into the world. I don’t think my kids would monetize their relationships. I’m not judging so much as bewildered by all of this.
Omg thank you for this video! I thought no one would do a deep dive 😔🙏
I've never heard of these people, but I follow a couple that vlogs their travels in Mexico. They broke up but are trying to salvage the channel. Tying your source of income to your personal life seems like a great idea, until it isn't. Putting yourself under such a spotlight, reading potentially hurtful comments, etc adds to any stress that one would go through in a breakup. And, the chances of your channel surviving long term is probably low so you need to eventually find a new way to earn a living as well.
"Instead of okay baby he was thinking more about no baby 👶 " Lol 😆 Dr. Grande you are killing me.. I'm not a fan of the family channels either. Thank you for the analysis!
Congrats on 1mil!
Dr. Grande, Congratulations on accumulating 1 million subscribers. Great job!
“Look at us, we know how to reproduce” 😂
I’ve been alive for awhile. I’ve seen this so many times. she got bored and met someone else but she wants to keep up appearances and keep the channel bringing in money. The guy is going to have a really rude awakening when he realizes that she’s been cheating on him for awhile, he will get ordered to pay ~40% of his post tax income to her and he may get kicked out of his house via an “ex parte” restraining order. Perhaps the new guy will even take his spot on the channel. They can rename it chadKbaby
Way oversimplified. Not every divorce ends in losing half your stuff. Especially being so young there wasn’t even alimony involved in my personal experience. I’ve been cheated on and I don’t think you can claim motivation for that either. You’ve been alive for a while but you’ve never been a young couple displaying their entire family online for money. Nor have you been either one of the people involved in their relationship.
How right you were!!!!! 😂😭
This is exactly me, given a hypothetical situation, debating with myself on various possible scenarios and outcomes rofl. This is just pure indulgence Dr. Grande I am INTP too and what you're doing is exactly what I love to do analyzing hahaha thank you sir, you're my virtual friend who I debate with during these videos. I know you use OCEAN, but sorry when I meet my fellow INTP I cannot help but silently laugh inside.
Thank you, Dr. Grande, for your sacrifice. That must have been painful viewing!
History proves breakups end people's interest in watching these types of shows. Remember "Little People" on TLC? They will likely see a boost in their viewership initially due to channels like yours bringing attention to their drama, but I have no interest in watching people destroy their family as entertainment.
Dr. Grande, Good morning!
Channels like OKBaby make me nauseous. Exploiting their kids for views and money....apparently the new norm. Yikes.
You do realize these young people have been friends most their life and were teenage parents which plays hugely into their dynamic.
Why do people watch such channels???? It's all fake, empty and depressing. There's nothing satisfying about lifestyle channels. Is it that the people watching have no life and need to live vicariously through these people? And as for the children, what's so interesting about watching other people's kids? Do the people watching have no children of their own? Furthermore, children aren't supposed to be on display for strangers, have no say in been seen by millions and aren't their authentic selves in front of cameras which can mess up their development mentally and spiritually. I really don't get any of it.
Oh no! Another dreaded family vlogger channel bites the dust! I feel better already!
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If your spouse suddenly starts being mean, distant, suggesting you deserve better, wanting you to find someone else, wanting to 'find' themselves - they are likely cheating or want to.
They're VERY obvious red flags. Her saying there were problems for the past year (he was surprised by that) - She has been cheating for a year
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Thank you for your daily upload, Dr. Grande. Really needed the distraction today.🌵❤
Fantastic analysis as always Dr Grande…if anything, credit to Oscar for having a vasectomy (or, at least telling her he had one :), and not bringing any more unconsenting family channel cast members into the world. 4 young children is a lot for the strongest and most mature relationships.
Looking forward to seeing what the cacti get up to for Valentine’s Day 👑
To those who wonder why there's this kind of private "announcement" on YT or TV, I have a couple of ideas:
1. That's literally how they make a living. It's demand and supply, if you're watching then there're people making them. That's why most TV and news are driven toward click-bait instead of true journalism. And hey, it's free speech.
2. I used to despise these kinds of shows/content, but looking through the lens of a psychologist like Dr. Grande or a Couple therapist like Dr. Kirk Honda, you actually learn a lot and can relate to your own experience.
That was a really deep analysis of a family channel breakup. “The heart wants what it wants.” That was perfect.
I actually have felt that way in a relationship. My first relationship. I fell out of love. I ended up breaking his heart, but I wanted to go to college in Germany and focus on my studies. Glad I listened to my heart. I felt awful for hurting him, but 20 was too young for me to be in a serious relationship. I didn’t get married until I was 30.
I'm sorry but when you have 4 kids the heart wants what the heart wants is not a good enough reason to blow up a family of 4 little kids. That's being so so selfish. Her wants should come after the wants and needs of her kids. She's cheating on him and trying to make it about anything other than the truth.
Love you Dr. Grande.....I hate these family blogs that exploit their children. It amazes me how stupid and boring these videos are and yet they make a ton of money putting all the crap out for the world to see. Thank you Dr. You are awesome.
"Look at us! We can reproduce" LOL I love Dr. Grande 😚😚
I'd love to see an episode on: Polyvagal Theory; autonomic nervous system; brain-gut axis; stress; trauma.
Love Dr Grande time! “I find the look of satisfaction on his face for changing a lightbulb…disturbing”. 😆😆😆
Yes, that one made me LOL too. I had never heard of these people until today. I watched one video of theirs, with Oscar taking the kids to the park (back in 2019). Then the ride home showcased Oscar having difficulty "holding it in" because there were no open bathrooms at the park. I thought to myself, "Really? This is what this TH-cam channel is all about? It's not for me." In the very beginning of the video the kids were cute, but I could barely make it to the end of the 13-minute long video.
Didn’t expect to see this type of topic but always interested in what Dr Grande has to say!
How refreshing! A man decides he's done with having children and takes responsibility for his own fertility instead of expecting his mate to take care of the birth control. It wouldn't hurt for him to up his handyman skills but, in my opinion, this is a real man.
"There was one episode that literally featured Oscar changing a light bulb the look of satisfaction on his face after successfully changing the light bulb, was disturbing." Glorious 😂
I think Dr. Grande definitely has one of those "eew, people." T shirts 😆 I bet it's under that button up!🖤
I have a mature mutually friendly relationship with my child's father.... therapy on my end helped me address my issues. His? I dunno. He has his own life. He's a good father and my kid is well adjusted.
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My husband and I had premarital counseling before we married where we discussed children, money, goals etc I was shocked we hadn't discussed much and even less in detail. Turned out we had similar views, although not by design, perhaps luck. I encourage all couples to take advantage of this, maybe the divorce rate would drop. I've not ever watched Instagram or TikTok. Everything I've heard about them tells me I've made a good decision. Thank you Dr. Although I'm concerned about your online choices, I believe your education and insight will buffer the possible toxic reactions.